Brian Eno and Yanis Varoufakis | THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ASK | Podcast 3

This podcast is released alongside the acclaimed new docuseries 'In The Eye Of The Storm - The Political Odyssey Of Yanis Varoufakis'. Watch it here: www.eyeofthestorm.info
Brian Eno is an iconic musician, songwriter, record producer and visual artist. To find out more, go to: www.brian-eno.net/
Yanis Varoufakis is an economist, politician, author and the former finance minister of Greece. To find out more, go to: www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/
Raoul Martinez is a philosopher, author and filmmaker. To find out more, go to: www.creatingfreedom.info
'Eye Of The Storm Podcast' will release new episodes each week with renowned guests from the world of politics and the arts. Our first episode, however, kicks off with an in-depth interview with Yanis Varoufakis. Please like and subscribe.
Photo credit: the picture of Brian Eno used in the thumbnail was taken by Cecily Eno.
PRODUCED BY DAVIDE CASTRO AND FRANCESCA MARTINEZ.

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[@philipcollier7805]

What a pleasant surprise to find two of my favorite people, gathered together for a talk. Thank you, Brian and Yanis.

[@bladdnun3016]

I think they're friends. They've certainly spoken in public together before.

[@mariettestabel275]

And the fantastic filmmaker Raoul Martinez...

[@d-5037]

Eno is a legend. Can't wait to listen to this one.

[@mylenek241]

Brian Eno is one of the greatest musicians in the world, one of my icons who marked my youth and more... Thank you Brian Eno for your courage... 💕💕❤❤

[@TennesseeJed]

Art should be a basis for civilization not an extra. It makes meaning for a human existence, and we need meaning more than ever in our profound overshoot.

[@GabrielHellborne]

"The one lasting, remaining American value: buying shit!" - George Carlin. It applies to Europe too.

[@GlobeHackers]

It's a pleasure to hear from Brian on these issues. Thanks, Yanis.

[@clivebroadhead4381]

There aren't any council houses to be sold as they have already been sold to the banks, via the owners by the Tories.

[@benjaminmitchell5345]

Yanis is so right. The only way I know of the Spanish Civil War is from the Picasso depiction. For me my whole understanding of the event is from his interpretation.

[@lorilea3188]

it's not too late to read For Whom the Bell Tolls and understand a little more .

[@farinshore8900]

I love Yanis' great respect for the transcedence and for the transformative value of art.

[@sspbrazil]

I love when Yanis and Brian do these discussions.

[@mariettestabel275]

And the filmmaker Raoul.

[@JeanSparrow]

A heartfelt thank you to Raoul for this so important podcast. In these bleak times (thoughts of the people in Gaza) we need to be reminded of what our soul is crying out for - namely people that give us hope and inspire us to go out there and do something the world needs (thank you, Brian!). Yanis, yes we need you to speak!

[@roblouw]

Wow. Brian Eno and Yanis? What a treat.

[@mariettestabel275]

And the filmmaker Raoul Martinez.

[@lindaespinoza2064]

Don’t give up, because we need you!!!

[@stacyeleanza4917]

What a great soul-feeding conversation! so many gems! Particularly Brian Eno's thoughts about the value of surrender. BIG thanks for this!🌷

[@mariaanadelgado9522]

Please don't stop! I need you to keep talking. I've watched all the episodes and I'm looking forward to the next one. The word is resistance. Many thanks to everyone involved in this project! ❤

[@delfimoliveira8883]

Two brilliant thinkers.

[@mariettestabel275]

Three....

[@SlavicRusa]

I love to see Brian Eno in our camp ❤️🎶 legend!

[@haydock18]

Art is not knowledge, it's questioning and investigating.

[@mariettestabel275]

An Artist must look for light in his heart, in his emotions, in his suffering to extract possibly a breath of creation..

[@ingridnewman5256]

I so enjoyed listening to this. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@hexxan007]

A warm bath, this talk about the beauty of life. This is what we should focus on if we want a more beautiful world... Thank you, guys.

[@mariettestabel275]

Thank You so Much Raoul for making this interesting Documentary.

[@mariovicente]

Totally agree with Varoufakis on the need to separate Natural Sciences and Social Sciences.

[@scottmcneil1150]

fantastic broadcast, life affirming and very stimulating. wonderful, thank you

[@roryofarrell1488]

Yanis: Don't give up because we need you to speak. Raoul: Don't give up beacuse we need you to speak. Brian: Don't give up beacuse we need you to speak.

[@ColtraneTaylor]

Yeah, the same tedious old mantras. Eno has always been dull outside of his day job.

[@stuartsmith5146]

@@ColtraneTaylor😂

[@ColtraneTaylor]

@@stuartsmith5146 😉

[@lindagarland5223]

~28th minute....profoundly stated!!!!!! Thank you to ALL three.❤ P.S. Yanis: we need you to continue speaking. 👂🏼🧠

[@globalcitizen6309]

Thank you all for this beautiful and meaningful conversation 👍🏼🕊️

[@Mimicry161]

Love these. Keep it up.

[@davefionamaycockbrynaert9259]

Of course, Brian Eno and Yannis Varafoukis! Why didn't I think of that? Bravo to the three of you.

[@bryonyfearn2470]

What a wonderful conversation. There was so much i related to. I've spent my life in the arts, as well as working on where and how that crosses into political movement - i think the arts have always been central to social discourse and therefor, politics - I have found one informs the other in a circular motion and this is where humankind can be so powerful, especially that point where surrender occurs, the ego gets out of the way and that wave gets ridden! I also had a radio show for a while called, 'The Arts and Politics" because, to me they are both practices that shape our lives and are capable of enhancing each other. Thanks again, i look forward to hearing more, Bryony, Australia.

[@rainbowpeace13]

Excellent discussion,,,,thank you!

[@mariettestabel275]

Brian Eno "Discreet Music " Beautiful! Thank You Yanis. Also thanks to Raoul.

[@leenissa1473]

What a beautiful conversation. Thank you🙏❤

[@stewartcohen-jones2949]

I didn’t know I needed this until I needed this . Fascinating conversation.

[@sama3033]

Eno is a national treasure.

[@PeppermintPatties]

Eno is a world heritage site! 😆

[@giovannimondo4113]

Great discussion on those topics and their relations , coking out with the only question that wouldn t be taken in consideration

[@criscris5061]

Wonderful conversation. Inspiring

[@barbaragood7844]

Thank you very much for this very important conversation 🌼💛🌷

[@sebbyknight]

What a sparkling (if tired *wink) 60 minutes of film. Thank you for the insight, enlightenment and bleak inspiration for an unlikely better future.

[@peterboytRaKs]

Great guests and program. Thanks. "Art is for sissies"., Who do not or cannot know the difference between fantasy and reality. A simple photograph 'artistically' taken/edited etc. can transform an industry. A piece of music can calm the spirit of the most insidious warring criminal. A portrait of a vase of flowers and a violin can be the inspiration for a prosperous family genealogy or a pedigree, make a grown man cry, heal the spiritual wounds of trauma or unite a civilization. Let us not underestimate the profound power of the 'arts' and music more specifically. It's the only endeavour nobody needs permission or license to engage in.

[@kaeltkottmir]

People who said about the art is for siss are the worst kind ever heard

[@peterboytRaKs]

@@kaeltkottmir But they do exist just about everywhere you look.

[@Poetic_Justice1962]

That was a beautiful, meaningful conversation. Brian Eno belongs to my memories growing up, him being the collaborator on two albums with David Bowie in the 70's, albums that changed perceptions and conceptions of music, lyrics, and sound, or rather soundscaping in general. The albums were pioneering synthesizer music, picking up where the Beatles left off with the mellotron.

[@MohaTahlil]

Greetings from all the way Somalia, What a great discussion, two brilliant minds.

[@mariettestabel275]

Three....

[@MohaTahlil]

@@mariettestabel275 thanks for the correction. Three beautiful minds

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​@@MohaTahlil❤

[@liveontheverandah]

Fabulous discussion as always. Thank you.

[@JL88]

Always good to hear Eno speak…very engaging. As was Veroufakis. Thank you for the video.

[@conniekaler]

I don’t believe that artists, or anyone for that matter, are not doing “enough” just because they are not actively involved in politics. They are certainly not to blame for the rise of the extreme right. There are other ways of making a positive difference in life that are equally important.

[@nicks9321]

The active choice that is required to surrendering control to being a part of an ecosystem… it seems logical and succinct when presented like that, but until I heard it framed this way, I never realized how there’s power in the active choice, and it’s not a surrendering of agency! Stimulating conversation! Thanks for sharing!

[@hoodparticles]

Brain Eno motivated me to make ambient compositions. Great show!!!!

[@davidjones4050]

Art is alchemical, it has transformative power.

[@noelward1367]

At the 15 minute mark. The Welsh artist (rapper, singer, etc) calls art an "empathy window," in that one of the essential features is you have to be able to imagine and sympathise with an other, that is, feel empathy. Empathy becomes a window into difference. If this is the case, then the program of austerity, which feels no empathy for the other, is not merely cutting budgets but waging war on those things that can produce that empathy which will naturally be critical of it.

[@claudetteleece8076]

Such an amazing conversation from a generally control freak, who was taught a lot today, on a different view of control.

[@catythatzall4now]

Brian you are an artist I really like - you have held me with your music - and we have never met - you make me feel connected to people are like me

[@mindfulawareness1]

Riding on a bus through Kilburn... Great conversation.

[@RedBrigades]

Wonderful✊️✊️✊️

[@ericrobinson7184]

Excellent conversation...you guys plowed over a lot of ground...I'm tired!

[@papi5377]

Jesteś na dobrej drodze.

[@HillbillyHippyOG]

STEM makes modern life possible, but the Arts make modern life worth living. ✌🏼

[@ericchristen2623]

As a writer, artist, poet, philospher, inventor and tutor, I recently wrote a short story called School 2094. The 6 core subjects would be 1. Creativity & Invention 2. Appreciating the Earth 3. Ethics 4. Family 5. Languages and 6. Survival. Education is one of the biggest failures of the dark age we are going through.

[@mariettestabel275]

I could never resolve this dilemma; do we live in an Abnormal or an Amoral Epoch?

[@jillfryer6699]

'Religion as a form of art', says Eno. I'd love to see the paper when he writes it. This is fascinating, I only ever thought of him as an innovative musician, never imagined he'd have the whatever left over to be proper innovative thinker.

[@1augustots]

Grande Brian Eno Um gigante ❤❤❤❤

[@avtwvns]

The temple of Efea and the setting at Aegina is indeed stunning.

[@LokiBeckonswow]

yanis is GOAT 🙌

[@BrunoWiebelt]

outstanding thank you to you 3

[@nailadr]

Amazing 👍

[@susannegerber7360]

art, art, art ... within and without ... real and rlevant ... the aesthetic regime ... always present always available ... here and now and transcendent as well ... like the breath, like life, like death as well ...

[@moustafachoucair506]

Here because of Sunshine Jones.....and Yanis and Brian! Love

[@r.w.bottorff7735]

So pleased to see an artistic hero of mine on your wonderful podcast. Excellent installment.

[@Cactuspractice12]

egg-heads united!

[@davidjohnhull]

Brilliant

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

8:33 David Graber was such a gift

[@-m4nGo-]

BRIAN ENO, ENNIO MORRICONE, ERIC SERRA My solid top ever evers.

[@diegob8319]

"All art is propaganda. It is universally and inescapably propaganda; sometimes unconsciously, but often deliberately, propaganda." U. Sinclair (I think)

[@lindalauwers391]

Thank you all so inspyering

[@conniekaler]

Very interesting talk. Ask Charles Eisenstein on 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

Deliberate artistic alienation.

[@troygaspard6732]

Voltaire made his first success with a play. The arts are the beginning of movements.

[@stephenthestoryteller3139]

Yes 🙏

[@LokiBeckonswow]

pls keep speaking yanis 35:52 and pls i hope many people continue to share yanis's technofeudalism book, every human deserves to understand our shared cloud serfdom

[@lemilemi5385]

Brian eno seems, surprisingly, intellectually mundane! And yanis appears spiritually equivalent.

[@TennesseeJed]

I think serious more than mundane because it is very important to him.

[@ColtraneTaylor]

What hope does a Marxist have in that area?

[@ivanklass1]

The philosophy of 21st century politics are: "There isn't such a thing as society or there's such a thing as art that projects the society as itself to be monoculture." Written by Ivan Klass

[@eliasE989]

👏👏👏

[@kensurrency2564]

There are those of us who cling to the existing paradigm, and then there are the rest of us who want to change and know we MUST change and who are willing to do what is necessary for the benefit of everyone and the planet as a whole. The current system is unsustainable and everyone knows it, even those who fear changing it. But we must. Status quo is not an option.

[@PeppermintPatties]

Yes ✊

[@hawkstrike18]

Just the first 10 minutes present the normal logic that's missing from most ppl; and we wonder what's going wrong and why... I have no idea what political views Brian Eno has and I'm not truly familiar with his own art, but he's a gem for these few words alone. This is a win. But it's a win that few appreciate and understand, much like the good music that goes largely unnoticed by most. It's why I've been mentioning things about vicious cycles and paradoxes and self-inflicted prophecies... We don't really get what we choose every day (well, most of us again). And yes, marketing and the capitalistic greed is ingrained in us now, and i don't see many truly determined to resist anything about it, lol... Choices speak volumes no matter how much some ppl shout against things and situations. When you say you oppose the roots of evil you should at least, dunno, not have the same goals-incentives as the ones you criticize. It's all quite ridiculous by now, and we always choose the most self-destructive way to view life. And blame whatever we want to blame on whoever it is we want to blame (beat). No matter how successful such strategies are in achieving sabotaging others etc, we cannot get more stupid than that. Pfft. Yes, what we like and choose says everything about us (and shows the level of deep hopelessness, and the type of enjoyment in that despair - been seeing even younger ppl, not necessarily teens, unable to enjoy the normal things they should be enjoying, and instead being turned into trolls and cynics of the worst type). But how many are looking (with the right balance) at themselves to see what they've become?

[@hawkstrike18]

...in the words of Frodo: Can you protect me from yourself? 🤔

[@ivanklass1]

I hope one day to be able to buy that basement in Portobello road... Love IK

[@malatesta1968]

🖤🖤🔥🖤🖤

[@ivanklass1]

"The Odysseus mythology of a great social friendship that never surrender..." Written by Ivan Klass

[@user-ir7qm8ep6w]

❤❤

[@mikewells6121]

Raoul makes a comment which made me sit up... that the entirety of environmental damage caused by industrial production has been externalised away from the owners of the means of that production. Yet another reason to my thinking that the allocation of money in our culture makes no sense... and is entirely without justice, thus making work generally also a dubious phenomenon.

[@davidwright8432]

The areas addressed particularly near the end, of 'meaning', 'surrender', and 'love' are utterly alien to libertarianism, and neoliberalism; but core to being human. Externalities rule OK!

[@Nine-Signs]

I write music, it's all that keeps me living. But I cant make money from it, I wouldn't know how, but it's what I do, and anything else destroys my soul, as 20 years of working in customer services did.

[@ivanklass1]

If on any jobs an individual applies for, there is such legal information and issue as "Profiling of the individual" that they company are aware from any social media being used by the interviewer, this is a breach of the UK article 8 of Humans Rights Act 1988 from which it clearly states that: "An individual do have the right to correspondence and privacy and family." and it's also a breach of UK Data Protection Act 2018, "data should be used very fairly, proportionate and not against the individual" therefore such breaches could lead to up to 30 years imprisonment under the UK laws..of the HR jobs Department.. Best to you, Ivan Klass

[@Vrailly]

I can tell Raoul has* been watching Schmachtenberger, Vervaeke et al. 😂

[@mariettestabel275]

All seven days of the week are Holidays when we do what we like.

[@mariaolvido1]

I recommend the documentary Century of the Self! its here on youtube

[@PeppermintPatties]

Thanks. I'll check this out 👍

[@TheNoblot]

However, artistic alchemy/ Brian music is soundwaves in my realm I try to blend them with reality & paintings artworks & indirectly somehow with the noosphere soundwaves are to me similar to mental communication they travel like radio waves if you like. kind of telepathy across the ocean

[@criscris5061]

I would like to know at least one example of a dangerous art

[@SaurierDNA]

Possibly the most ancient tales of the Sumerians spell it all out.... They describe a history of humanity that starts with DNA manipulation by extraterrestrial beings that needed us as slaves to dig up the gold and administer it until it goes to their planet. Is that true, every body should ask them selves of course.. But for those that think that those very complex stories about The Anunnaki`s are about what really happened, the idea that this slave situation of humanity still exist becomes more and more apparent.

[@anthonygarciaguitar]

All makes sense Left brain autocracy squashes right brain depth perception emotion empathy exploration… look at how we are educated - all left brain tick box exams… eventually we become a product of how we are educated

[@PeppermintPatties]

Yes, and the necessity of exams at all doesn't suit the different kinds of minds that Nature has created. Nature likes neurodiversity.

[@WoodstockG54]

Nothing here that climate change can’t fix. As to what I like ? How about a world where bullies don’t exist?

[@patrickemmett6269]

i really like making people laugh.

[@eugenio1542]

I'm confused. Yanis, in a recent brilliant speech, to The National Press Club, proudly claimed to be Australian 😂