QSC K12.2 Review and Comparison - WATCH THIS BEFORE BUYING

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Brian Diener

Brian Diener

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@MotownRockinroller
@MotownRockinroller 5 жыл бұрын
I use a QSC K10.2 in my band for my keyboard output and that's ALL I use--I mean straight out into the crowd (not into the mains, etc). I place it on the floor behind me pointed upward and out at an angle and it takes care of both my on-stage monitoring as well as audience output. Unbelievable, powerful clarity, even in outdoor festival type gigs. I used to use an Alto TS310 powered speaker with the same wattage rating, but it's night and day better with the QSC's as the Alto's peter-out at mid volume and up. Plus they are notorious for blowing tweeters. Spend the extra money up front for the best and you won't be disappointed!
@hungqtran7960
@hungqtran7960 6 жыл бұрын
How could there be a thumb down on this review. People are so mean nowadays . Thanks for your time and effort on this professional made video👍👍👍
@lionelj8106
@lionelj8106 5 жыл бұрын
Because there will always be a stupid people around.
@djblaze1389
@djblaze1389 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@edwardh4202
@edwardh4202 4 жыл бұрын
really it gave very little information and it comes up as the first that is why
@David-tr9xk
@David-tr9xk 3 жыл бұрын
a guy who wouldn't pay $800 for a plastic speaker
@peterrossum348
@peterrossum348 2 жыл бұрын
There is not realy anny information that matters.. says you can do a wedding whit 2 of those is just wrong. Need i to go on? (non native english).
@williamsymes2956
@williamsymes2956 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best comparisons on youtube....bravo.
@jozzg
@jozzg 7 жыл бұрын
one of the very professional reviews/comparisons i've seen in YT, for professional gears.. probably better than some spokespersons of such brands do.. keep up the good work mate
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support! Maybe QSC will hire me as a product reviewer sometime haha
@kevinhirt
@kevinhirt 6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY a well done speaker review. You nailed it please do more
@stephenlennartz3466
@stephenlennartz3466 5 жыл бұрын
I play in a classic rock band & we invested in the K12.2s paired with the 18" sub. The sound is AMAZING! This combination is very portable and sounds great. We get complements on our audio quality at most every gig. Love em'! Thanks for your excellent review.
@winglover1
@winglover1 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely produced video! I am very glad you took the time to explain your recording rig and setup.Keep up the good work. It's nice to see people make intelligent and informative videos on KZbin. The side by side comparison was excellent! Keep up the goo work! Bill Steinhour Broadcast TV Engineer US Senate Recording Studios
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bill👍
@dhd2313
@dhd2313 7 жыл бұрын
How can anyone not like this video? I've watched it several times. It's so informative, thank you again.
@clutch269
@clutch269 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 5 years later and this is still an amazing review and just helped me a lot as I just opened my new pair of k12.2's. If I had seen this video before I bought them I definitely would have got the KW's instead :(
@jh-eg7iq
@jh-eg7iq 6 жыл бұрын
bought one as it was all i could afford at the time. so glad i didn't compromise on a lower end speaker. the sound and power of just one k12 is astounding.
@ManuelHernandez-br6dy
@ManuelHernandez-br6dy 4 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to to altos?
@mrchow3233
@mrchow3233 4 жыл бұрын
Manuel Hernandez Alto 312’s sound great
@isailopez4132
@isailopez4132 4 жыл бұрын
@@ManuelHernandez-br6dy can’t compare at all... alto is a cheap made speaker.. i have the old and new k12S... And i have beat the shit ouf of them, clip them for a long continuous time.. And i have not have to deal with replacing anything from them... i had peavy amd jbls befores, and i repeatedly had to fix and replace the high frequency drivers, and sometimes the subs., With qsc i have never heard anyone blowing a speaker.. And iam talking about great big companies in this coment.. Alto is a toy speaker in my opinion and could never stand a chance against a qsc, especially because it does not have a real cooling system, and that really affects you in a small hall., heat is a big problem for any electrical devices, and not having a way to combat this issue, shows how bad and cheap alto is...
@kevinsmusicroom1362
@kevinsmusicroom1362 3 жыл бұрын
I think the altos sound 1000 times bigger. Listen to how thin the qsc is!
@samwheelock9743
@samwheelock9743 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. Thank you for a mindful review and taking the time to post a helpful video. A QSC rep pointed out that the K12.2 is a good choice when vocals and/or speech are important.
@DjTecniq
@DjTecniq 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a DJ and love QSC I have the original K10’s. Have you heard the CP12’s I’m hearing they sound great for such an affordable cost. Well produced solid review. Thanks!
@Fizyxx
@Fizyxx 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I just got the KW153s. Is that your house or a Raymour and Flannigan showroom?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, well now that's a compliment! Enjoy your 153's my man.
@ronaldmejia6891
@ronaldmejia6891 7 жыл бұрын
The best QSC demonstration I have seen in KZbin. So unique video. Absolutely the best. I bought me two 12.2k 's and one 1000wt qsc subwoofer...and it is the best. Thinking of buying 2 more 12.2k's for halls parties. Anyone out there! You can't go wrong with QSC. I had jbl's for many years and now I'm part of the QSC family. Thanks for your video brother.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support man! Enjoy your 12.2's.
@DjJoeKhoury
@DjJoeKhoury 6 жыл бұрын
I currently have JBLs. I bout the SRX815P w/ SRX815SP. I kind of regret it and wish I went with QSC and the k12.2. Which model JBL's did you have, and do you still think that the QSC's are better?
@tractuspk
@tractuspk 4 жыл бұрын
I use a pair of K8's in my living room for synth jamming. I've been considering getting an SVS subwoofer to fill out the frequencies, but this is making me seriously consider saving up for a pair of KW153's!
@DjG843
@DjG843 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair for 2800
@davidmcelfresh7675
@davidmcelfresh7675 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool review, your A/B comparing technique is quality. Nice, professional, and concise 👍
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate that!
@FranklynGrant
@FranklynGrant 5 жыл бұрын
Please Ignore the 81 plus thumbs down,... Those people didn't like your house being better than theirs. who knows. its because of this review,......... I am purchasing these!!!!! Withhhhhh a Sub. Great video love it
@snertthedj2307
@snertthedj2307 6 жыл бұрын
This review pretty much sealed the deal for me! Been looking for some new high quality speakers for smaller Mall and Bar events with up too 300 people and was leaning towards these or spending the extra for RCF's but I think I'll be getting some K12.2s next week!
@radioboyatl
@radioboyatl 5 жыл бұрын
Good job Brian! I appreciate your analysis. I'm going to stick with my K12s.
@numanuma20
@numanuma20 5 жыл бұрын
I love this review of the speakers. You good a good job consider the face that the listener is hearing these on speakers in their own home that are plugged in to a computer in different environment through youtube which compresses the audio.
@honkytonk2010
@honkytonk2010 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Deadly review! So professional thank you so much for sharing your awesome!! Video
@anthonyimpavido2280
@anthonyimpavido2280 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your informative comments. They really helped me in my decision process.
@resoulband3129
@resoulband3129 11 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!! I am debating between the 12.2 and KW152. I always use 2 subs (KW181). I currently have K10s and am clipping a bit. Have them set as the touchmix 30 specifies. Would you recommend the 152s over the 12.2? My concern was playing at a venue - 60 degrees for the 152 vs 75 degrees for the 12.2 - could that cause dead zones? Any suggestions, 152 vs 12.2?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 11 ай бұрын
I have a sneaking suspicion the KW series is due for an update soon. KW is the last remaining loudspeaker line from QSC that doesn't have the digital interface yet. So for that reason, plus the fact you're already used to using K10's, I think the K12.2 is a logical upgrade.
@OHLR
@OHLR 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review with the macro shots and audio modes. We watched all your videos and subscribed. We might buy some QSC speakers after watching this video. When do you plan to make more videos?
@sandipanbanik2386
@sandipanbanik2386 4 жыл бұрын
Superb review! Great job buddy! Keep it comin'.... Cheers!
@P4JJP
@P4JJP 6 жыл бұрын
Great review , very informative and unbiased. Keep up the good work:)
@MrHooskerdu1
@MrHooskerdu1 4 жыл бұрын
Man, those 153s sound great!! I almost wish I would have purchased those instead of the K12.2s that I got. But will be purchasing the KS212c at some point to take care of the bottom-end. Great video!!
@Wezweznaod
@Wezweznaod 5 жыл бұрын
This is what a proper review sounds and looks like!!! Thank you
@soundasylumlive4421
@soundasylumlive4421 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I mixed a show on a couple of these recently and they replaced the KW122's. I was very doubtful that these would perform as well, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well they did. More in the headroom department plus better processing in my opinion.
@Georsiro
@Georsiro 2 жыл бұрын
Thé kw is so far better without sub but don’t notice lot of difference with it
@markdennis-o2n
@markdennis-o2n Ай бұрын
Great video - but "Sounds less plasticky" ?? Can you explain that please
@rperez4852
@rperez4852 6 жыл бұрын
This review is on point good job on the comparisons!
@sroth8087
@sroth8087 5 жыл бұрын
I don't like fooling around with the settings on the back. I'm a "set it and forget it" type person. That being said: What are your go to settings? I do mostly sports bars and weddings.
@davidplummer4638
@davidplummer4638 3 жыл бұрын
I know this video was posted 3 years ago but hopefully you are still answering questions. I am looking at building a PA setup with 2 KS118 subs because I want the extra bass due to most of my events are a lot of more small EDM focused parties/events (100-300 people but sometimes outdoors). I'm wondering with all the bass I'm getting from the subs if the extra cost of the KW153 is still worth double the price of the KS12.2s? I know there isn't a universal answer to these types of questions but I would love your input. Thanks.
@will5430
@will5430 3 жыл бұрын
I know it doesn't really answer your question but I'm about to pull the trigger on a single ks118 (for now) and two k10.2s. I love the portability of the 2 ways and I think they'll be a great match
@hobomobile1646
@hobomobile1646 2 жыл бұрын
People should definitely try the "Studio Monitor" Preset - I've used it for my live sound biz now over a year and had the most compliments I've ever received. Still punchy in the lows but flat and clear all the way out.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 2 жыл бұрын
Might have to give this a try!
@petenutsford8416
@petenutsford8416 7 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for an excellent review and video!. Very informative and to the point.
@THEFLYESTDJGCUE
@THEFLYESTDJGCUE 6 жыл бұрын
Good honest vid. Always remember the listed watts on speakers is rarely true, it's usually half that.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Very good point. QSC advertises these as "2000 watt speakers" when in reality, 2000 watts is peak output. The RMS output is still only 1000 watts, just like the original K series. The marketing for the new K.2 series could be somewhat misleading to people who don't know what they're looking at. The real difference between K series and K.2 Series is the distribution of those consistent 1000 watts. Rather than have 500 watts of HF and 500 watts of LF, the new K.2 series has 900 watts going to the woofer and only about 112 watts to the HF. Which makes a lot more sense in the end because you'll never need/be able to effectively use 500 watts of high frequency power without causing hearing damage, while the lower frequencies are much more power consumptive and can make use of the added power in the new model.
@underratedboss7283
@underratedboss7283 4 жыл бұрын
Purchased mine earlier today 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
@djlenzo8683
@djlenzo8683 4 жыл бұрын
Mine just came in today. Lol
@underratedboss7283
@underratedboss7283 4 жыл бұрын
DJ Lenzo I’m jealous 😂🤬 mines coming on Wednesday
@djlenzo8683
@djlenzo8683 4 жыл бұрын
@@underratedboss7283 nice!
@silviutanase4754
@silviutanase4754 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian! Very nice review! Do you recomand QSC k12.2 instead of QSC k12, taking into account that now the price difference between them is 400 euro per pair? Using that money and adding 100 euro more, you can buy a K8 with that money, or something else. Is the difference between them so high that it worth to spend 400 euro more? I have a digital mixer, I do not use the DSP or delay .. so what do you think? Thanks!
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
If you already have the K12's, there's no real reason to upgrade besides wanting to have the latest kit or putting the digital interface to use. The original K12's are already a great piece of gear: tried, tested, and trusted. The reason I opted for the K12.2 is they are slightly more powerful than the original K12's while also more portable than my KW153's. Hope that helps. Cheers!
@tomgoese1476
@tomgoese1476 2 жыл бұрын
What sub do you recommend using with the K12.2?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 2 жыл бұрын
QSC KS118!
@cratediggahash1535
@cratediggahash1535 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING job on this video. So detailed! So informative!!! I feel really good about these speakers now. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together.
@yunimeneses7985
@yunimeneses7985 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard they have problems ???? broken clip issues and thinks like that ... can tell me if is true ???? thanks code I wanna buy two of them .
@vitomccartney
@vitomccartney 2 жыл бұрын
I bought 2 and cant wait for them to get here
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 6 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for sharing. I have used the 12.2's for a month now. They sound great. I used to have kw153's and they were so heavy and huge. Moving them was no fun. Now I want to add two of their new cardioid subs. My question for you is regarding DJ rates. If I want to start making some money. What is a good amount to quote for a system of this size and DJing weddings and events? Can you give me a breakdown and what is included as far as gear and labor? Does lighting cost extra? Do you offer a la carte pricing or package deals? I'm just trying to understand the business better. Thanks!
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
For various private events, there is no standard package I offer since each one is so different. For weddings, assuming you have 5+ years of experience, pricing somewhere just under $1000 is about right for this caliber of a setup and the typical 100-250 guest 6 hour wedding. I like to think of it as an upscale yet compact setup... Really really nice equipment, but in a manageable, repeatable, mobile quantity. For me, that setup would look like 2 K12.2 (and subs if needed), 2 moving heads on a tbar, and 3 basic uplights, (2 on my scrims and 1 bar behind the facade.) Then I offer additional uplighting as an upgrade to the base package. Six static color uplights for an extra $150 seems to be the sweet spot. The package includes music & mic(s) for the ceremony, and then background music, MC'ing, and DJing for the reception. There's really no need to do a la carte pricing for weddings because most all will follow this format. The upgrades like more uplighting or additional sound are where a la carte pricing comes in. Hopefully this helps!
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener Thanks, that helps a lot. How about deposits or cancel fees? How does that work? Do you get paid in full up front? I’m also curious how you make sure each venue has adequate power to run these systems and lights.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Most of my wedding gigs are booked through a company I work for, so I don't handle any of the paperwork. For clients with my personal company, I usually ask for payment in full on the final client meeting (or at least a deposit of half.) Most couples would rather pay in full during our last meeting to avoid having to carry around cash/check and trying to remember to give it to me the day-of. Venue wise, power has never been an issue... sometimes you have to run an extension if the ceremony is outdoors in a remote courtyard or garden, but reception halls always have adequate power, and the setup package I offer really doesn't require a lot. The real issue is where they station the DJ in relationship to the dancefloor... always ask to see a room layout before the event and make sure you're not on the other side of the room from the dancefloor with the grandparent's table in between!
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, good to know! I'm sure you have been put in some interesting situations. I once DJ'd on a yacht. It was tight awkward spacing for my DJ booth. So if the ceremony is in a different location, you will provide two sound systems to cover both? Or move a system around?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Usually it's easiest to just set up a single K12.2 on a tripod at the ceremony location and mix everything through the back of the speaker, then move it back to the rest of the setup afterwards
@craigallen7980
@craigallen7980 5 жыл бұрын
You mention that you own (or used to own) the original K10s. I'm among many who actually preferred the (more balanced) sound of the K10s to the K12s. Can you speak to the sound quality differences between the original K10s and the new K12.2s?
@sirjag2922
@sirjag2922 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! It was so helpful!
@thomas9469
@thomas9469 3 ай бұрын
Brother man how I cut lows on these. I set on live preset. I have some boominess in the church. Please advise.
@balusagari3019
@balusagari3019 3 жыл бұрын
Where is this monitor box qsc I will buy it
@tkmmusician
@tkmmusician 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! Just bought one.
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 6 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to A/B this against an Ibiza port 15A for laughs. Got one for our church, although for what we use it for it's probably like comparing 10lbs of dynamite to 5lbs
@pekkatoikkanen3996
@pekkatoikkanen3996 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you leave the bass out of equation the three way model (kw135?) sounds certainly more flat and crisp. It almost like the room acoustics wouldnt disturb so much with the bigger speaker.
@leonelorozco2514
@leonelorozco2514 Ай бұрын
would you recomend KW153 over the 12.2 as stage monitors? say 4 kw153s vs 6 12.2s. wich one would recomend?
@brianberrydj3659
@brianberrydj3659 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice and very professional reviews .
@majulancar3555
@majulancar3555 2 ай бұрын
How much is the price offered for a set of QSC K12.2 active loudspeakers for the Indonesian market 🇮🇩?
@kevinrobins8612
@kevinrobins8612 2 жыл бұрын
Both the QSC K.2 8” & 10” sound perfect for my purpose. However, is there any way to mute Fx ( vocals / acoustic guitar ) in between songs ?
@djroyal414
@djroyal414 10 ай бұрын
Awesome review! Plan on getting 2 of these with a QSC sub 🔉🔉🔉
@seanyjdawg
@seanyjdawg 3 жыл бұрын
Wanting to know how these would hook up to a dj board without using the aux. I use a rca now so I’m just a little confused but definitely want to buy them.
@san2011ful
@san2011ful 4 жыл бұрын
Planning to buy Active speakers for band of 5pc instruments.. Max area to cover will be 5000 Sq feet semi closed ....which one you suggest from CP8 x 2 to K12.2 ....we would like to keep the budget low but need a decent performance
@artysa.blackwood4261
@artysa.blackwood4261 2 жыл бұрын
I had the original k12 and found them very good. The obiusly uinfair comparison to the KW was a cool adition to the video, the kw sound so much better. Would be interesting to test the k12 whit a subwoofer VS the KW
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah looking back on this review 5 years later, I agree the comparison to the KW was totally unfair! Was working with what I had at the time. But I still use the K12.2's on a regular basis and don't have any major gripes with the sound.
@James1623
@James1623 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your review! Do you find that the speaker leak Mid low frequencies out of the back of the speakers? Only one comment that I’ve heard from sound engineers and bands is They tend to leak amid low frequency out of the back especially when you drive them quite hard with them being a plastic speaker rather than a wooden ones that won’t do it so much and I wondered if this had been nullified with the second series or does it still happen???
@alecceq
@alecceq Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your review ! I was looking to rent 2x QSC K12.2 speakers for my wedding. Is it overkill to get the subwoofer as well for a 20x35 feet tent (64 guests)? We have a DJ. Thanks for your advice.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener Жыл бұрын
Good choice! I use my two K12.2's for weddings of up to 250 guests. For only 64 people, you wouldn't necessarily NEED a subwoofer. But if having good low end / bass is important to you, then go for it!
@BookDJMatthewToday
@BookDJMatthewToday 6 жыл бұрын
Just bought a pair of 12.2's & will have them by Saturday. My main use for them will be for karaoke shows & weddings. Which EQ setting would you recommend for each of these situations? After watching your review, I am sitting on the fence trying to figure out if the default or dance setting would be better for my karaoke shows. The dance setting for sure when it comes to weddings, I think...but would like confirmation on that from you beforehand. Excellent review vid! It sold me on these speakers for sure! Thanks ☺
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Dance mode. I went back and fourth between the two as well, but that's what ultimately sounded best to my ear, regardless of the application. Better low end and less painful high frequencies at high volume.
@andrebryant516
@andrebryant516 6 жыл бұрын
BOMEntertainment live settings are good for karaoke the default really had a lot of midrange to it almost too much it seems at times and dance was good for karaoke I run karaoke dance parties in Jacksonville Florida so in dance mode I turn bass down on singing tracks sometimes not to be to bass heavy on ballads hope it helps...andrebryanticonmobilemusic on Facebook
@ras2472
@ras2472 7 жыл бұрын
Great review! what stands are you using? I heard these yesterday and were blown away! will purchase
@michaelbrasoveanu88
@michaelbrasoveanu88 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review👍👍 Such a question, is there a big difference between k12.2 and k10.2 in terms of sound quality, besides +2 db and a speaker larger than 12? For a mobile DJ, 2 k10.2 speakers from a subwoofer are enough for events up to 150 people, or is it still better to buy k.12.2? Thank you in advance👋
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener Жыл бұрын
Due to having a larger woofer, the K12.2 can hit lower frequencies than the K10.2 (by about 5-6Hz.) So on paper, the 12's could be perceived as having slightly "better sound" on the low end. On the high end, both speakers have the same specification at 20kHz. Depending on what volume level you need for those 150 people, the 10's may work. But if the added 7lbs and extra $70 in price aren't a concern, the 12's would give you more headroom.
@michaelbrasoveanu88
@michaelbrasoveanu88 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianDiener Thank you very much for your answer, but here in Germany the difference in price between them is definitely not $ 70, in Germany they are more expensive than in America. Here the k10.2 costs 890 euros per speaker and the k12.2 costs 1100 euros!
@arturomonge7787
@arturomonge7787 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian. I have a pair of QSC CP12 and trying to find out whats the best sub for it? Weight and portability are important for me so, I dont want anything bigger than a 12" sub woofer. Looking for recommendations on a budget around $1000. I would appreciate your help. Thanks
@jerryrenda6123
@jerryrenda6123 5 жыл бұрын
K-12 Series are the Best bang for the Buck! I liked the Mackie's; Italy, usa until China made the last Generation! Great video BrIan! Very informative and Produced very well!
@oescolante15
@oescolante15 5 жыл бұрын
K-12 there made on china to
@Unplugged704
@Unplugged704 7 жыл бұрын
Bought a pair 2 weeks ago. Love it!! One issue. When using the instrument setting on input B, I get a ver noticable hum noise (level set to 0), no matter what cable I use, xlr instrument or speaker. But when I change the setting to Line, it is noticeably quieter. Is this normal? I realize it is 2000w. Can you test and see if you get the same issue?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
I just tested this on both of my speakers and couldn't replicate the problem. Does it start to hum as soon as the input is set to instrument or does it only happen once a cable is plugged in?
@directsound
@directsound 7 жыл бұрын
Great video very well done!
@ConnahJay
@ConnahJay 6 жыл бұрын
Wondering if I should upgrade to the new K12.2s... I have the old legacy K12s, heard the new ones are not as DEEP sounding? I compared them today to the EV 12s and they sounded more detailed but not as full... Worried it's not much of a upgrade.
@ConnahJay
@ConnahJay 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb video though, please post more like these when you have the time. Thank you!
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Since I haven't heard both side by side, I can't speak to which has more low end. In theory, the K12.2 should have more woofer power, but other people have also mentioned they thought the originals still had slightly better bass. In terms of upgrading, I'd stick with the originals unless the digital interface is a dealbreaker.
@ConnahJay
@ConnahJay 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener I bought my QSC K12 Legacys for $1200 new, I have a friend wanting to buy the pair for $900. I figured I could mint up to the K.2s because I can get the same $1200 deal. So basically spend $300 for brand new speakers, thoughts?
@BackToWar100
@BackToWar100 Жыл бұрын
This with the sub or Teufel Power HiFi Stereo Set ?
@creativespecies7032
@creativespecies7032 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best settings to hook up two k12.2 to a k118 subwoofer for a party for balanced bass for sub and distributed equal for tops?
@jeambeta
@jeambeta 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Many people criticizes the K12.2 and say the older model k12 sounds better because it has more low.. I would like to know with one would work better with a sub.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard people say that too, but on paper, it's not entirely true. While the K12 does technically have 2khz lower of frequency response, there's not as much power behind the low end driver to back it up. 500 watts vs 1800 watts on the K12.2. My DJ career was built on the K12's way back in 2012, so having used both, I can tell you I'd take the K12.2's any day when given the choice.
@applehead252
@applehead252 5 жыл бұрын
Any overheating issues? I’ve experienced lots of overheating with older models Mackie on outside events !
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, never had an overheating issue in nearly 8 years of using QSC products. In fact, I do events in 90°+ summer weather regularly, and overheating isn’t even a thought.
@sanjeevchettri2211
@sanjeevchettri2211 4 жыл бұрын
Hi i own a pub of 1000 sq ft dance floor I purchased one mackie thump 15a and one mackie 18s sub with thier 4 channel prodx4 digital mixer and i want to add few more speakers for added punch for dj events during weekends and I am stuck between qsc 12.2 speaker and EV ZLX 12p ....which one do u suggest
@aahlberga
@aahlberga 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together, it's been hard to find good K.2 reviews out there. Rented a pair of K10s last weekend and was blown away, so thinking about buying a pair of K10.2s. Do you have any experience with the smaller version? Trying to decide if the 12.2s are worth the extra cost and weight.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this review helpful! What kind of application were you looking to use the speakers for? That decision will all probably come down to expected event sizes. Having spent the first 3 years of my DJ career borrowing K12's, and then an additional 3 years after that owning K10's, I can tell you the difference between 10's and 12's is not that significant -- being that if you went with the 10.2's, you wouldn't feel like you got gyped for not getting the 12.2's. Obviously, the 12.2's are slightly louder/bassier than the 10.2's both in person and on paper, but I never got to a point where I felt like 10's weren't powerful enough for mobile DJ work. It's like comparing a gold medal to a silver medal in the olympics. And now that the 10.2 has even more power than before, it's an even easer choice to make. I haven't experienced the 10.2's in person yet, but I can tell you that either one is a really great option and you'll be happy either way with their respective benefits whichever way you go... it all just depends on the application. Also, nothing beats going down to your local music store and listening to them in person!
@aahlberga
@aahlberga 7 жыл бұрын
We used the K10s in the woods at a cyclocross race with maybe 100 people in the general vicinity, and they worked pretty well. That's probably the biggest thing I'll do without renting anything larger. Truth be told, I'm sure the K10.2s are sufficient for the meager parties I'll DJ, but I just want to make sure the 12.2s aren't worlds better in other ways than the ability to cut through big crowds. My local shop has a bunch of stuff, so I'll definitely try before I buy. Thanks for the help!
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Only a 2db difference between the two, so it may depend on if it's worth the extra hundred bucks and the added 9lbs on each cabinet!
@Takeiteasy11
@Takeiteasy11 7 жыл бұрын
Planning on purchasing QSC speakers this weekend... would I be better off buying 4 k12.2 or 2 KW153s for live band performances (+ a pair of dual jbl subs)? Thanks in advance!!
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Vocals are always going to sound better on a 3 way speaker, but the 153's are heavy for mobile work, and there's less need for 15in tops if you have subs. The k12.2's have great EQing capabilities which make up for being 2-way speakers, are half the size and weight, and leave the option open of being floor monitors which could be useful for live performances. My advice is always to listen before you buy though!
@Takeiteasy11
@Takeiteasy11 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener thanks for your reply, will do!
@keithforrest6283
@keithforrest6283 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener I personally like the kw122 it gives you the mids like the 3 ways giving you great vocals with half the weight of a 153
@louisaltmire3313
@louisaltmire3313 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Brian. Thank you.
@davep1103
@davep1103 7 жыл бұрын
Not to get off the subject ( Those speakers WANG ! ) but what's the name of the song that you use testing the speakers ? D.J. Encore.
@HyperSuperBothi
@HyperSuperBothi 7 жыл бұрын
PS GFY by GRiZ (ft. Cherub)
@TheMexicofan123
@TheMexicofan123 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian great video! Quick question. Would you recommend these for a tailgate party?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@almas7123
@almas7123 6 жыл бұрын
Confused here! Compared to the 10” same make, they are both rated the same wattage. Does this mean they will sound the same volume wise?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Wattage doesn't equate to volume output. It's the DB output which separates the two models. The K10.2 is 130db, K12.2 is 132db and can hit lower frequencies.
@almas7123
@almas7123 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener ah, thanks!
@pino_7428
@pino_7428 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a pair of k12.2 everything is OK until the drummer hits the bass drum and boom! One of the speakers lost the volume completely. You have to turn it off and then the sounds comes back but as soon as the drummer starts playing again the volume is gone.
@edgarruiz8862
@edgarruiz8862 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian . I recently purchase these k12.2 and was wonder if u can help with the EQ setting for more bass .. Im confused lol
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Page 16 of the user manual covers how to use the parametric EQ. www.qsc.com/resource-files/productresources/spk/k.2/q_spk_k.2_usermanual_en.pdf It looks like for more bass, you would add DB to the low shelving band.
@johnfernandez6623
@johnfernandez6623 6 жыл бұрын
A y you could do a tutorial on how to maximize the sound and use of the speakers using a controller and rca cables (ddj-sb2) for ex
@ArtofZenDigital
@ArtofZenDigital 5 жыл бұрын
I have both the QSC K12.2s and a pair of EV ZLX 12Ps, using a Numark Mixtrack Platinum, which is limited to RCA out, however, it’s going into a PV AT10 mixer that sends sound out to a DBX GoRack that then goes to my sub via XLR, then to my speakers via XLR. It’s a lot, but not needed simply for DJing. Now I mention this because if you go from RCA to 1/4, it’s better than simply RCA, but the problem is both RCA and 1/4th cables need to be kept as short runs due to their issues with poor shielding and signal interference. XLR has a natural signal boost from every mixer because it’s balanced and shielded. You’re better off simply buying a decent, low priced XLR out audio mixer and using the thickest short RCA to 1/4 or RCA cable from your DJ Deck to your mini audio mixer. Trust me when I say this, the natural XLR signal boost is very real, and it provides cleaner sound overall with actual signal interference shielding. As a Dj, this is your best best if your DJ deck doesn’t have balanced XLR outputs on it. The reason for my setup is simple. I Dj club nights, and also do music and karaoke nights 2 times a week in addition to that. As a result, the DBX GoRack is used to kill feedback as I use up to 6 wireless mics at a time. The extra mixer handles the wireless mic mixer line input, and creates a nice sound profile. All you’d need is a basic $60-$100 audio mixer that’s incredibly portable. Unfortunately my mixer is large, so I have to carry around a Magma Flight Case for my Dj Deck and laptop, and a retrofitted Odyssey flight case that’s designed for a record player, but perfectly fits my PV mixer. Since we both have smaller DJ Decks, you could fit a small form mixer into a flight case along with your Dj deck, and still maintain a clean presentation. Hopefully that helps.
@thewutitizband
@thewutitizband 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian great vid,you seem to have excellent knowledge and skill.So,I have been considering a pair of these to replace my 2 twenty yr old JBL MPro series mains with 15 lf's plus drivers.I also use 2[new] Mackie dlm12s subs that are decent for small/mid size venues.Do you think between the QSC KW12.2 mains and Mackie Dlm 12 subs they would be adaquete if say,I were to do an outdoor gig?Or even a large indoor venue? BTW,The Mackies get bashed alot,but the back panel features are HQ.[2] inputs,[2] high pass and [2] thru's.Plus you can fine tune your crossover freq to any make model of main speakers.Thank you kindly Brian.
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, these speakers unquestionably hold their own both outdoors and in large venues. I say go for them!
@rtaulbee
@rtaulbee 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for creating this vid, very nicely done. I came away really liking the KW153s ha!
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean! Listening to both side by side, the 153's have a very real, present, and unobstructed sound, whereas the K12.2's sound more tightly compressed. Might have been a bad example to put them up against, because on their own, the 12.2's really do sound great and far better than any other 2-way cab I've yet to hear... In fact, they have become my new main speaker just because of the sound/power to weight ratio. The digital interface and overall design updates won me over too, despite going into it pretty uneasy.
@rtaulbee
@rtaulbee 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener I'm sure they do. I played in a wedding band for several years. They used the k12s and the qsc 18" subs (k18?). Sounded amazing. I was just surprised at the sound replication on the 153s. Even through the camera mic, it sounded like I was there. Natural clear replication. You described it perfectly in your response. The 12s did sound like they were missing something. A presence of sorts. But I'm sure they sound great. QSC makes great speakers. I've recently picked up a pair of turbosound ip2000 columnar array/sub speakers (like the Bose lt systems). I have some vids on my channel displaying them. I was trying to put together a system that would be very portable, including subs. Let me tell you, I was impressed by how good they sound! Take a listen if interested!
@flexdiaz
@flexdiaz 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan - Only thing about the KW153s besides the price, which may be a turn off for some, is the weight. Its an easy two man carry, but solo carry at 88 lbs. can get very tricky. I workout 5x a week weigh 222 lbs, and solo carrying KW153s caused me to throw my back out twice... :-)
@rtaulbee
@rtaulbee 7 жыл бұрын
flexdiaz great point! Something for all of us to keep in mind when building our systems!
@ellafinger1669
@ellafinger1669 2 жыл бұрын
What stands do you recommend? About to buy these speakers for a church and want to know what stands for them you recommend?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I've been using the same ProLine LST2BK stands from Guitar Center since 2011 and they've held up great to wear and tear doing mobile events. They're a solid option as long as you don't need gas-assisted lifting or more than 6ft of height. However, if this is a permanent install in a church, the K12.2's have built in fly-points that I'd recommend using to mount them to the ceiling.
@ellafinger1669
@ellafinger1669 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianDiener Thank you so much for your advice! Right now they are renting so they set up and tear down every week so I’m looking for very durable and light! Thank you for your advice! And great video!
@Oogcvtpoo
@Oogcvtpoo 3 жыл бұрын
Wich subs you recommend with this set thank you and also mixer. Nice review!!!!
@djspinnzrobertson8911
@djspinnzrobertson8911 2 жыл бұрын
What type of Stand did you use for the 153?
@jakesp16
@jakesp16 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sir, my school is going to buy 2 new speakers to use at outdoor dances (200-300 people), in our theatre for live music and dance groups (200 seat standard theatre), and at some other live sound events. They are debating between 2 bose F1 812 (rep at Sweet Wat er says the Bose carry much farther over 50-100ft because of the line array) compared to 2 qsc k12.2. Can you provide any feedback on this purchase?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 2 жыл бұрын
If it were up to me, I would want to listen to both side by side in person. Because on paper, the specs are quite similar between the two. Without ever having heard the Bose F1's in person, I can't say which sounds better. That said, I know what school sound systems go through. They get *abused* . And the K12's (originals) that I've seen purchased by schools 10 years ago are still in service today and sound just as good as they did in 2012.
@jakesp16
@jakesp16 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianDiener Thank you Brian, I appreciate it!
@godwinsudhar7972
@godwinsudhar7972 2 жыл бұрын
Sir is there Bluetooth option can we connect tv and keyboard for church use
@padillasruiz2770
@padillasruiz2770 6 жыл бұрын
I am thinking to buy 2 speakers 12 inch but I have not decide betwen kw series or k series, whats is the diference ? Help me out please.
@ras2472
@ras2472 7 жыл бұрын
Also with the K12, was easy setting to SUB mode when using a sub, how do you do that on these?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
On the digital interface, scroll down to the sub crossover and select what sub or frequency you want to use with it.
@rapaent
@rapaent 5 жыл бұрын
Great review....... I've been looking at the QSC K12.2's and am impressed with the build and looking forward to hearing one in person. I've been to quite a few forums in which owners are stating that these have a boxy, compressed tin sound without much bass. It certainly sounded like it here as well in comparison to the KW153. I sure hope they sound better than what I heard here. hat setting did you have the K12.2 on? Maybe that was the problem. Thanks again for the review. 👍😊
@daniellucateroofficial4041
@daniellucateroofficial4041 4 жыл бұрын
The k12.2 sounds amazing it only sounds boxy in comparison to the other speaker because it is significantly smaller and lighter and doesn’t cost 1500 it’s about a little more than half the price but you buy k12.2 for the convenience and sound quality as opposed to competitors in the same market
@nicholaspeppas945
@nicholaspeppas945 6 жыл бұрын
3:42 come filtering?
@vinkush7230
@vinkush7230 6 жыл бұрын
Wow , thats talent, youve got a powerful voice well balanced , atticulate and very very proffesionally done. Which microphone did you use to record the vocal presentation?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. The voice over was recorded with a Rode NT1 Condenser
@vinkush7230
@vinkush7230 6 жыл бұрын
@@BrianDiener hey buddy, am still amaized , do u mind sharing the entire line up , for your studio ,( mixer recorder etc,) to achieve this. Also whats ur opinion on the bose f1 sub perfomance? Cheers
@vinkush7230
@vinkush7230 6 жыл бұрын
@@BrianDiener do you do voice overs
@chrishooks6740
@chrishooks6740 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. If you wouldn’t mind at some point could you do one more comparison between your KW153 and the KLA12.2 with your sub I saw at the end of the video to hear if the 12.2 kicks up the mid range when it drops out the low end to the sub? Thanks in advance!!
@scatterjoy23
@scatterjoy23 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! So I play using a Korgb1 keyboard. I’m looking for something that will give me a lot of sound without sacrificing the integrity of my keys. Do you think this is a good fit?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I'd say this is the perfect option for both volume and accurate sound amplification. As always, I recommend people go to their local music shop and listen in person before dropping money on a sub-thousand dollar speaker.
@shravantalmuk8387
@shravantalmuk8387 4 жыл бұрын
What about the limiter? I set by speakers to 0db and play through yamaha mixer. The limiter light glows without me pushing the levels. Can you plzz elaborate about the limiter plzz
@BillyLydon
@BillyLydon 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to find the right settings as well….What a pain in the ass it is! I just want to play my music!!!
@julioqee
@julioqee 6 жыл бұрын
How would i wire and set two pairs of qsc 12.2 and one sub kw181?
@MasonThomas
@MasonThomas 7 жыл бұрын
I have Mackie Thump 15s, and they hit the limiter fairly easily, you can't push a lot of bass with them, or even talk on the mic without them lighting up red. Do you think the K12.2 has a lot more pushing power and bass? I have rented them and it seems like they never top out. What do you think?
@BrianDiener
@BrianDiener 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can tell you the K12.2 definitely has more power just by comparing the spec sheets. The Thump 15's peak at 1000 watts with 126db of output whereas the K12.2's peak at 2000 watts with 132db of output. The thump's LF driver is 800watt peak, the K12.2 LF driver is 1800watt peak.
@MasonThomas
@MasonThomas 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Diener Thank you very much!
@partyloudevents7947
@partyloudevents7947 7 жыл бұрын
Mason, PLEASE understand that i am NOT a QSC fan! Not only is the qsc louder than the "1000 watt" mackie thump 15, it is louder than 2 "1000 watt" mackie thump15s! It will be cleaner sounding and probably produce equal if not more bass than the 2 thump15s at party volumes. Mackie Thumps are not made for stand alone loud volume applications at all. They are truly bottom shelf when compared to a speaker like the QSC K12. Again this is coming from a guy about to buy a set of Yamaha DXR12s!
@ElRincondelDJ1
@ElRincondelDJ1 7 жыл бұрын
Que buen video man Really good video
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