Is the Synod a Hostile Takeover w/ Philip Lawler

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In this interview, we discuss the increasingly alarming things emerging from the "Synod on Synodality". We discuss the way activists are using this synod to advance and agenda that is conflict with the Church's teachings and timeless tradition and how faithful Catholics should respond.
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[@st.saturninia9179]

Your testimony around 37:00 is spot on, and those of us who became Catholic out of pure desperation, who came to the absolute end of our own ideas and efforts, and jumped into the arms of the Church will not compromise. Even if the modernists ‘take over’ . We will stick together, we will find faithful priests, we will be surrounded by the Saints, and the outpouring of prayer will be incredible. So I’m not worried.

[@gabrielparent]

We need to be in this world, but not of this world. The last thing we should do is to follow the social fashions and trends of modern social justice.

[@myleshagar9722]

I just received the brochure for the bishop's appeal. The art and text are all about community, social justice and supporting the institution. There is nothing about the Gospel at all. The modern church is totally self-absorbed.

[@oliverclark5604]

Correction: 'to do in this world, but not be of this world' in keeping or allowing inseparability and qualitative equality of 'do-ing' and 'be-ing'. allowing God to advantageously combine both all our procreation role gift process 'do-ings' and all our progress in 'be-ing' identities in need of union (cf. "of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: "inseparable" completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 in the Cardinal Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill matters de facto adding 'qualitatively equal' for union need and procreation gift in consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate, such as of Pope Francis as a Jesuit religious order family member, vowed to man in Christ).

[@oliverclark5604]

@@myleshagar9722 The Gospel of Christ in his dealing with the woman taken in adultery who he saved from stoning under the Jewish law is his keeping or allowing the inseparability and qualitative equality of mercy in supporting the institution: "Has anyone condemned you? ... Neither do I", and social justice: "Go and sin no more".

[@brianfarley926]

Why Non Catholics have any say is absolutely ridiculous. That’s like being in the armed services and asking the CCP for their advice

[@zachsmith5515]

yes but Pope Francis wants their say so he can dilute the Catholic Church all the more

[@brianfarley926]

@@zachsmith5515 he hasn’t diluted the faith so far. So let’s hope he does what he’s supposed to. Why he wants there say is ridiculous. Go back to Vatican II

[@mariorizkallah5383]

Have you heard of ecumenism? Please adhere to your ecumenical council your church had about 60 years ago.

[@brianfarley926]

@@mariorizkallah5383 yes and totally stupid to bring in non Catholics to discuss what the Church should do. One thing to have them assist us in Bible translation possibly. Lastly, I don’t reveal those groups that came in bribing in Catholics to there Church either. They seem to know better Totally irrelevant to hear anti Catholics tell Catholics how the Church should be or at best people who are opposed to Catholic teaching telling us what we should do

[@bensolo7000]

The Church recognizes that there is among non-Catholics "people of good will". We are not to view all of them as "members of the ccp". How the Bishops choose to respond to what they say is a seperate issue.

[@youngbloodk]

In my experience, there is no lack of young people and families at the TLM and more traditional Novus Ordos.

[@oliverclark5604]

Kermit Youngblood, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds if the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@canibezeroun1988]

RCIA student here, if my mass is in English, is it Novus Ordos?

[@youngbloodk]

@@canibezeroun1988 Yes, most likely, if it is not an Eastern Rite parish and not in Latin. Though the Novus Ordo can be in Latin, it is not 99% of the time.

[@reginabillotti]

@@canibezeroun1988 Most likely, unless it's an Anglican ordinariate parish. (A special use for priests who have converted from Anglican communion churches).

[@timrichardson4018]

At 38:50, this is the crucial point. Many in church leadership seem to be allowing the culture to change the church. They seem to be giving in to the spirit of the age. The Church should respond to the culture in the sense that, at times, it has to clarify it's teachings in a way in which the culture will understand and receive the meaning. But that's crucial: the real meaning. If doctrine needs to be articulated differently so as not to confuse the culture, then fine. But it must remain the same doctrine.

[@oliverclark5604]

Tim Richardson, cultures in the form of roles or identities such as church and state as roles and families as identities will manipulate each other. This manipulation is by grooming emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members in these roles and identities with non-economic false status inducements of "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35; cf. St Paul at 1 Cor 7: 25-34)) or association with this vocation of consecrated celibacy marriage vowed to man in Christ over consecrated male female marriage vowed to God for short term economic advantages of the families of the diseased 'familyist' groomers of tax exemption by embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud. In the long-term this destroys the family. This is unless required otherwise in the exercise of an absolute power of simultaneous authorisations of their applications of ensuring their procreation role gift and insuring their need of union of their identities as of consecrated marriages by families of consecrated marriage, both male female vowed to God and celibate, such as of Pope Francis as a Jesuit religious order family member, vowed to man in Christ. This requiring can and must be to keep the inseparability and equality in quantity and quality of their meant to act as helper of the family roles and meant to be identities as family members so allowing God to advantageously combine all their respective ensuring doing procreation gift role helper of the family within the family activities and insuring need of union of their family member being identities. It was this requiring that took place on 10 June 2021 by Pope Francis in the matters of Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees as alleged embezzlement of procreation role gift charity donations and the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian Parliament as an unacceptable risk of fraud on the need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ.

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

When pirates are attempting to take over your ship and crash it into the rocks, I can’t say it’s very comforting that the captain and many of the crew want to accommodate the Pirates.

[@michaelbarry6589]

It’s similar to European leaders welcoming “refugees” and swaths of unchecked immigrants into their countries only to see their people suffer greatly.

[@jimcallahan9346]

Don't worry. Have faith. Jesus is merely asleep in the boat. He will never abandon His church.

[@jackiekjono]

A friend went to confession and expressed doubt about the Pope. The Priest told her to stand in from of the church (not in the middle of Mass), look at Jesus on the Cross and say, "I have faith in you." I don't entirely trust the Pope, either but, I suspect, since the Church is so very very old that it can survive one Marxist Pope.

[@order_truth_involvement6135]

Problem is, your ship has been sailing a pirate flag since 1054 a.d. Your captain IS a pirate himself, and you're fighting against an even worse pirate. I'd rather stay on my ship, with Jesus and His captains as my guides ☦️☦️☦️

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

@@order_truth_involvement6135 So we just gonna ignore the council of Florence fam, that’s fine, but I’d say the orthodox haven’t been doing great either with them accepting contraception and having churches divided by nationality.

[@ChiaraDBrown]

Thank you for this, I feel like there are sane Catholics out there. Sometimes it doesn't feel like it.

[@xiomarablanco5598]

There sure are sane Catholics and also Saints, they’ve been sustaining the Church for 2000 years. It’s our job now to continue sustaining it for another thousand year or until Jesus’s return. We just need to continue in battle and endure like our ancestors did. 🙏🙏🙏

[@ChiaraDBrown]

@@xiomarablanco5598 Thank you!

[@xiomarablanco5598]

@@ChiaraDBrown my pleasure 🙏

[@monicamohan4720]

I like your interview style. You allow the other to speak. There is nothing as annoying as the host cutting off the person who is trying to make a point.

[@timrichardson4018]

So ironic that the traditional Latin mass attracts more young people than the Novus Ordo. I'm new to Catholicism so my perspective is limited. But I go to a parish that does both, and they do the Novus Ordo in a very high and reverent way and also offer the Latin mass. And I love both! And It's a very young church! Lots of young people. And tons of people in RCIA. Young people can smell condescension, pandering, and fakeness a mile away. They may not know how to articulate that, but it is very much the case. And they want little to nothing to do with it. If it's devoid of substance, they know it immediately!

[@canibezeroun1988]

Yes I am converting too and just could not imagine going to a Latin Mass. It seems very foreign. I might try it but my congregation is old (it's also in Southern Baptist territory), so I want to help expand it, but it will be a challenge.

[@admiralbob77]

It doesn't. Fewer than 1% of Catholics attend the extraordinary form. Your congregations are young, it is true - but in terms of raw numbers, most young people are going somewhere else. Young people in my experience do prefer a more high church experience, but not necessarily at the expense of a three year lectionary, or understanding some of the liturgy.

[@Jayce_Alexander]

​@@admiralbob77Let's add some much-needed context by looking at how many Catholic churches, especially ones that are in full communion with Rome, actually offer the TLM on a regular basis. Especially now that Pope Francis has cracked down on it in his typically harsh, uncompromising, and authoritarian manner when dealing with Catholics who believe in what the Catholic church taught pre-Vatican II. From personal experience, my local church here in the Netherlands (one of the most secular countries in the world) was the only one in my metropolitan area (2.4 million people) that offered the TLM every Sunday. It also offered two NO masses every Sunday. The two NO masses were both attracting just a handful of people, and I've never come across anyone younger than I was while attending it (I was in my mid-30s at that time). By contrast, the TLM was absolutely packed and filled with young families. The weekly TLM there was shut down in 2021 after Pope Francis, a man I've become incredibly disappointed in, cracked down on it. The church now holds two nearly empty NO masses each Sunday and will likely have to close down within the next decade or so because it is no longer financially sustainable. Well done, guys.

[@davidmckissack7528]

Christianity is now going through a period similar to that of the Arian Heresy. As I read elsewhere -- "Athanasius refused to participate in negotiations with the Arians, wary of compromise on such an important issue. Once the search for ****common ground*** took priority over sound doctrine, Athanasius feared, the truth would be lost." Jesus said that everything could be forgiven except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and I've often wondered what specific actions could merit such a fierce judgement. It seems to me that suggesting the Holy Spirit is "doing something new" in support of gay marriage, etc, is just that kind of blashemy.

[@davidmckissack7528]

@@nathanielsimpson7632 Thanks for that comment, Nathaniel. Yes, inasmuch as the original Greek "parakletos" means someone who is summoned or called to one's side for help, one of the Holy Spirit's functions is no doubt to serve as our advocate, so I agree. However, it's not clear to me that means He serves only as our advocate before God. Perhaps the as "someone" called to our side, He is also called to teach us. In the Gospels, Jesus says several times that the Holy Spirit is also to be our teacher and to show us the way to live our lives in accordance with Scripture. Misrepresenting the Spirit's teachings, or twisting them to support a view entirely at odds with God's word, strikes me as terrible blasphemy. E.G. John 14:26: But the Comforter, who is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things. John 14:26: But the Comforter, who is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 16:13: However when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak. Yours in Christ,

[@ButterBobBriggs]

I'm Orthodox, but when you talked about your 6 year old seeing the smoke of the incense and saying "prayers, prayers" around 45:11 I thought that simple true statement really sums up how liturgy forms and shapes our faith, even at a very young age.

[@catholicdisciple3232]

Haven't finished the video yet, but I just wanted to clarify that the Synod is not Magisterial and carries no Magisterial weight. Our concern should be over the future post-apostolic exhortation on the Synod.

[@myleshagar9722]

Which has already been written, prior the very first meeting, years ago.

[@catholicdisciple3232]

@@myleshagar9722 what do you mean? As a Catholic, I am confident the letter will be orthodox (protected from serious error by the Holy Spirit).

[@timrichardson4018]

Lord Jesus, protect your Church!

[@artifexdei3671]

no doubt, old feminist ladies in their 70s still think it's springtime of the church and it's 1960s where anything can be changed just like at vatican 2.

[@lkae4]

The enemy often uses Trojan horses, even going back to the serpent and his question to Eve. What do we do after we spot the Trojan horse?

[@KMF3]

I don't know burn It to the ground.

[@oliverclark5604]

KL, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds of the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@lkae4]

@@oliverclark5604 It's extremely rude and quite sinful to post unsolicited propaganda videos to strangers. Did you know this? Now that you know this, you need to apologize and repent.

[@SuperPunitor]

One thing that would greatly aid the kind of true synodality we need is far more far smaller dioceses. At the very least, any diocese that has auxiliaries by that very fact needs to be subdivided that many times. If the diocese was only a few dozen parishes, it would be far easier for a bishop to read the signs of what his people need and truly hear their feedback without it being filtered by middlemen.

[@MNkno]

Filtering by middlemen is not in itself a problem, but filtering with an ideology or a personal agenda needs to be prevented!

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

This is an underrated point that no one is talking about. But this won’t be a problem for long as the number of parishes will be cut in half in the next 20 years with how many Catholics will die off.

[@KMF3]

The most frequent thing that Pope Francis has admonished people for is evangelizing. He's very adept at speaking out of both sides of his mouth

[@oliverclark5604]

KMF, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds if the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@KMF3]

@@oliverclark5604 there's no distortion. Pope Francis just says the opposite things about a variety of issues. He'll say very Catholic sounding things about an issue and then say or do the exact opposite. For instance with abortion he'll say very pro-life statements but then do the exact opposite such as honoring a woman who is an abortionist or placing people in the pontificate academy for life that are pro-abortion. In fact there may not even be one person left in the academy that is pro-life. So you tell me is that a distortion? I don't think it's a distortion I just think that you can find any position that this man will support one side and then the opposite. So no matter what you want him to have said he will have said it. He is a man of confusion. And God is not a god of confusion. So that tells us something right there. To me that says he is not of God. I still respect him for the office that he is in. But I'm not going to turn to him for any kind of spiritual guidance. I think your days of Pope explaining are over. There's just too much evidence of everything that he has said on both sides of every issue that you can imagine. and he will just say whatever he needs to say to appease whatever group he is talking to.

[@luisoncpp]

Something to keep in mind is that listening and being democratic are not the same thing. It's possible to listen the opinion of another group and still disagree with them, but maybe by listening it could be possible to understand other layers of the problem. Many times people adopt erroneous postures as solutions for legitimate concerns(for example, many people became comunist because they are concerned about poverty) , so trying to address those legitimate concerns in a way aligned with the teachings of the Church cold be a good place to go. Also, overall I have noticed that nowdays it's common for cleargy to live in a vacum, still trying to keep a status quo that it's no longer sustainable (like assuming that faithful Catholic parents would be able to raise faithful Catholic offspring, or the idea that laity doesn't need to know apologetics), so I see as a good sign that they are being encouraged to listen to the population. Understanding the problem is the first step necessary to solve it. I also remember once that I had the opportunity to be in a casual talk between IT employees and nuns, and they didn't even know that we are constatly bombarded with an infinite stream of content in our phones (like the Facebook News Feed or Google Discover) seeking for our attention. Last comment: I have also noticed a serious under-usage of the internet technologies in parishes in general. Back when I lived in Sillicon Valley I noticed that most parishes only had an old-fashion website with not a lot of updates and very basic info (like mass times and contact information), and most other communities had social networks constantly updating with news about the upcomming events, photos of the past events, etc. Now I have moved to Guanajuato and things are even worse here: I wasn't even able to find the mass times online, I had to learn some of them by trial and error :S. Thanks to mention all of this in this video, I'm going to check if I can say something in the parishes around this area, because I have soo much to say about this disconnect with the society.

[@KMF3]

True listening and changing the church are not synonymous. But what I keep hearing is these so-called listening sessions are not about listening they're about pushing a narrative that's already been predetermined.

[@JodianWarrior]

@@KMF3 Pope Francis has made it abundantly clear that that isn't what they're supposed to be about. His mistake, if it is in fact a mistake, is that he had too much confidence in the people on the ground.

[@oliverclark5604]

luis enriques, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds if the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@KMF3]

@@oliverclark5604 I think you need to stop trolling. You've already put your comment elsewhere. We are well beyond you or anybody else's ability to explain away this Pope's behavior. When do you finally wake up and smell the coffee.

[@galaxxy09]

As a new convert, it’s alarming this is occurring and with what our pope is creating. I will stand by the church and pray for all of us.

[@marcuscaballarius2159]

You need to realize that the V2 sect is not the Catholic Church.

[@diegobarragan4904]

You should of converted to the Holy Orthodox Church.

[@tMatt5M]

Hang in there. The one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church is gonna be manifestly legit in about a decade or two. For now find a Latin Mass and don't look back.

[@diegobarragan4904]

@@tMatt5M lol we got a prophet over here

[@marcuscaballarius2159]

@@diegobarragan4904 The "Orthodox" church is false. See 'The Real History of "Orthodoxy"' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXS4g3eJh99pepI

[@marilynfourcade8751]

Thank you Brian and Philip. Pray a lot!!!!!

[@oliverclark5604]

Marilyn Fourcade, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds if the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@duaneadams5210]

I have found that listening sessions are a damned waste of time. They will take notes on what they WANT to hear, but ignore the rest. It is a sham to fool the people into thinking that they really care about us when in reality they show that they do not.

[@myleshagar9722]

Married priests, women deacons, gay partnerships and abortion according to conscience will be the outcome and then, at last, schism. The Catholic situation will mirror the protestant denominations; division and oblivion.

[@stevedoetsch]

Bingo!

[@cruxstationalis]

Congratulations on the 100k Brian!

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Synodality is to get rid of hierarchy and become Presbyterians.

[@gch8810]

Yeah, or Anglicans, a church that probably won’t be around a whole lot longer.

[@RickW-HGWT]

No, no, your all wrong, look at the statue and stamp honoring luther, were headed toward lutheranism. Definitely not high church , watch for elements of the paceamama profonations to be included. Look up the picture of bergolio with the wiccan stang, that will,be the new crucifix.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@RickW-HGWT I was talking about the ecclesiology of Presbyterians. They have a voting group of "elders" . He sure does love the arch heretic, Luther. He loves anything that is not Catholic.

[@MM22272]

Storms will arise and wars will come and go as they have even with saintly and unsaintly popes, but Christ is in charge of the Church. The synod will come and go even as we will, but Christ promised that the Church will remain intact. So, I kindly urge you not to be distracted, but focused on Christ and the sacraments. Leave to Christ what is beyond your influence, or you will become distracted and stressed.

[@mariorizkallah5383]

Synodality is when no hierarchy 😢

[@kimfleury]

3 Aves for each of you 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻✝️ P.S. I had to close the window quickly immediately following the video because an unskippable DEMOcrat ad began playing lies that Republicans want to strip people of their voting "rights." It could have been worst -- it could have been one of the Michigan DEMOcrat ads claiming that pro-life people want to imprison doctors for performing treatment for miscarriage. The fact is, proposition 3 on the Michigan ballot has a provision that will strip doctors of their conscientious objector rights to refuse to perform any abortion. I've never favored one political party over another, but ever since the DEMOcrat party enshrined abortion accès in their rules, I cannot ever support that party.

[@EpoRose1]

The same with the ads in PA.

[@MPFXT]

I have an idea, why not have the Synod be subservient to 2,000 years of Magisterial teaching and make that the voice of the Synod. Oh wait, our LORD Jesus Christ revealed this mission 2,000 years ago. So what is Bergoglio up to? Why is it so important to him to hear from non-believers and have their voices heard. I think Synods, as a college of bishops, should imitate Jesus & the Apostles and if they want to solicit dissenting input from non-believers then allow that to emphasize what needs to be fought against but not promoted.

[@Watecwater]

“It is designed to not get out of control of the synod.” Yes. The public participation is only encouraged in order to give it a veneer of legitimacy.

[@1littleway]

Good interview with Phil Lawler. I’ve been reading his stuff for years. I agree with you both.

[@oliverclark5604]

Trad_1962, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds if the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@KentuckyFarmstead]

The doctrine preached by the Orthodox church has not changed. I can trust in it. My children and grandchildren will grow up with the same doctrine as today and 1000 years ago. How much bad fruit has to hang on a tree before you realize its a bad tree? I see the Catholicity of the Eastern Orthodox Church and find hope in it. The fullness of the church is found in each local parish and jurisdiction. Lord have mercy on my RC brethran. Lord have mercy on me a sinner.

[@oliverclark5604]

Adam Chisholm, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds of the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@KentuckyFarmstead]

@@oliverclark5604 my concerns with the Roman church go far further than Pope Francis. I 100% agree with on how the media skews the narrative. No argument there. But there's also plenty of evidence without narrative or spin available that demonstrates the fruit of 1000 years of schism. Ever changing doctrine, desecrated holy spaces, idol worship and synchrotism, a "good Roman Catholic" today would be excommunicated 200 years ago. I can't trust that the teaching and practice of the RC will be the same from parish to parish let along in the next 5-10 years.

[@sillysyriac8925]

100% absolutely!

[@JohnDoe19991]

But the Russian Orthodox is state controlled . Have 0 confidence in Cyrill when he calls for war on Ukraine No bishop should be involved in shuch this as war

[@ingridlinbohm7682]

Precisely which Orthodox church ? The Patriarch of Moscow is not in Communion with the Patriarch of Constantinople. The Old Calendarists are not in Communion with the New Calendarists. The Patriarch of Moscow supported Stalin in the 1930s and afterwards despite the fact at the same time Bishops, Priests, nuns were being shot or sent to the GULAGS. I spoke to an Orthodox priest from Canada who said many Canadian clergy thought divorce, abortion and homosexuality was good. Does an Orthodox person support the modernists or the True Believers ? The doctrine of the Orthodox church is not the same as in the Past. Remember the Patriarch of Constantinople thought it was good to pray with Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Polytheists as well as with Pope John Paul ll at Assisi in October 1986 and many times since. Unfortunately there are hardly any Christians left who are not apostates in one way or another. We all need God to have mercy us all. Best wishes.

[@trumpvanempowertrump1013]

I wrote my bishop a 15 page letter before the synod and after I sent him another 15 page letter and yes pray a lot . When you arise from bed and git your first drink of water say Thank you Jesus for all the circumstances that allow you to be at the well with the worman drawing the water,

[@oliverclark5604]

Trumpvan ..., The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds of the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@klaracolbert8542]

I don't understand why non Catholics are included in this process.

[@zachsmith5515]

it is deliberate, the Pope wants their input as an excuse to attack the Church

[@oliverclark5604]

Klara Colbert, "Catholic" is a 'do-ing' gift procreation role of a helper of the family. It is identities of family members in need of union as 'be-ing' that are included.

[@JT604-q2x]

Some comments are misleading saying "popesplaining" that is not what's happening here. Great discussion.

[@pamconboy4315]

We’re losing young people because everything is too loose, no sense of reverence or sacredness. I agree, more traditional masses are needed

[@1littleway]

Another comment, I would like to know why some bishops felt compelled to discontinue half the tlm’s in their diocese while others did nothing but leave Mass alone 🧐

[@myleshagar9722]

They all agreed to shut down all the churches on government orders.

[@1littleway]

@@myleshagar9722 you must be talking about Canada

[@sarahj3349]

Is it possible you underestimate how many Catholics participating are not very orthodox in their views? That the reports are accurately reporting what they are hearing, but the amount of orthodox Catholics contributing was not very high?

[@oliverclark5604]

to Sarah J, as in uncertainty believed by Pope Francis in 2006 stating "the great majority of sacramental marriages are invalid" then in initiating the Synodal process of the Synod on Synodality leading by example in putting this process into action in his own case on 10 June 2021 in response to this "worldwide catastrophe" (Pope Francis, 10 June 2021) by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of an absolute power of his: 1. ensuring his helper of the family procreation gift within the family in the Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees tax exemption alleged embezzlement case, 2. insuring his need of union in the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his union need of identities of family members of his Jesuit religious order consecrated celibate marriages vowed to man in Christ.

[@1Hiswillbedonenow2]

Just listened to it. Very enlightening.

[@elianebeaudoin8376]

Bonjour Brian from Québec. In any meeting where a secretary or clerk takes the minutes, the members must, at the following meeting, approve (after possibly accepting modifications) the minutes of the previous meeting. That guarentees that the said minutes will reflect what was said during the preceding meeting. In the parish meetings on synodality I understand that this is not the way. Like you said with your guest Mr. Lawler (around the 19h minute of your video) the ''secretary/clerk'' can interpret the meeting like he/she wants (or the priest present and presiding). That's not the way it should be! -Love in XC

[@llamaluvr]

You and Mr. Lawler's description of the listening session filtering process missed a crucial stage- the diocese, who dictated what actionable information about the process was available (or, more likely, not available) to local parishioners, the format and structure of the listening sessions, the collection of data from individual parishes, and probably much more. I participated in a listening session, and it was comical to what lengths were taken in the script (proscribed by our quite conservative diocesan leadership) to keep us from saying what was really on our minds. We weren't asked, "what do you think?", we were asked to reflect on what a chosen passage of scripture means to us. Questions about what could be improved were seemingly intentionally focused on levels of hierarchy that could not define doctrine or widespread practical change. Between that, and the ingrained fear of being labeled a bad Catholic if you were to step out of line with the institutional church, it took about 40 minutes for a group of people on a zoom that were probably 90% affirming to say a single word about LGBTQ equality. But, once someone broke the ice, the structure broke down and folks finally said what they _really_ thought. Maybe, just maybe, this stuff is really important to people for well-founded reasons, and it's rising above the best efforts of clergy to keep the lid shut?

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

Did you get a chance to say your peace? Are you affirming of LGBTQIA2S?

[@danpenna]

Everyone who disagrees with fundamental teachings of the Catholic faith are free to leave. Staying to change the church is an invalid choice. The clergy leading the synodal path of heresy should be ashamed of lying in order to undermine the perennial teachings of Christ. Acting g in bad faith demonstrates a lack of integrity. Truth is not a democratic decision.

[@MM22272]

@@danpenna Agreed.

[@MM22272]

Tip: If you have a long reply, people are more disposed to read it, if your main points are separated into paragraphs with just a click of the hard return key.

[@deelman3340]

They took the lid off in the first place. You must live in the only conservative diocese left in the world, lol 😂

[@girlytoads]

I’ve left Novus Ordo and I’m 💯SSPX. Please attend your local SSPX if there is one available. Stay out of the Archdiocese

[@camovets5719]

At 35:23 The guest brings up Vatican 2 , basically saying , “some people (Trads) say the Holy Spirit wasn’t at Vatican 2” Implying that if you reject the council , you then reject the authority of The Church. The problem is that as humans, God gives us free will. So if at a council , the large majority of the participants try to make an end run around past teaching , with the aim of changing past teaching through political & psychological means, does this mean The Holy Spirit will strike them dead ? Of course not ! God allows murders & all kinds of evil. So at Vatican 2 we have a clear case of the hierarchy who knew what the Church has always taught, but they wanted to change Tradition. So because they did not work in cooperation with The Holy Ghost, they were not protected by Him. You can’t fool God !!! What we have been witnessing these last 60 plus years is the consequence of disobedience to the Tradition that Our Lord gave us.

[@bethanyann1060]

Yes, you reject any council you reject the authority of the Church. Vatican 2 didn’t change anything.

[@camovets5719]

@@bethanyann1060 Nonsense, a council or a Pope cannot go against Tradition. If either acts in cooperation with The Holy Ghost , they are protected, but if they try to “outsmart “ God, then they are not.

[@_Cato_]

I converted to Catholicism last Easter after being agnostic my entire life. I joined precisely because of the deep, millennia-long traditions of the Catholic faith, and the Latin Mass was the first thing to ever make me truly feel the presence of God. And now, just as soon as I joined the Church, it seems deadset on punishing me. All of the aspects that drew me to the Faith are being suppressed and crushed with not an ounce of empathy from the church hierarchy. It’s truly distressing and my soul has no idea how to handle it. I pray, *pray*, that this wayward ship’s course is corrected in due time.

[@oliverclark5604]

Cato, The problem is not the pope but the talking heads on the internet who distort the pope in the minds if the people. Here is a video that does a good job showing the distortion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y4laxmrbedrqs

[@_Cato_]

@@oliverclark5604 This current Pope is most certainly part of the problem. He has actively suppressed the Mass that brought me to Christ, chastised traditional Catholics, and left “progressive Catholics” unpunished while they openly defy Church doctrine. He is absolutely not helping the situation.

[@michaelhintz7679]

Brother, I had the same thing in a way happen in 2020, with the Church closures, I was at a point of despair. But i pushed through and I truly believe it will work out in the end.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@michaelhintz7679 I try not to "push" but instead to 'keep' or 'allow' covenant, non-presumed reciprocity of to "work [it] out" and to 'be' as in uncertainty to "believe".

[@oliverclark5604]

@@michaelhintz7679 Not just "work" but 'be'.

[@tolkienlewis6887]

Certainly in Germany faithful Catholics are silenced at synodal meetings. And does anyone really think other churches ever invite Catholics to participate in their deliberations?

[@edelmary1131]

us faithful Catholics need to step up, penance prayer, adoration, action...get proactive but rooted in prayer

[@antoniomoyal]

You are a good inspiration Brina. Keep it up.

[@roybrown2155]

Doesn't it all come down to the church not collecting enough MONEY today. Keep up the good work.

[@commercialrealestatephilos605]

Look into what the Russian philosopher Dugan has to say about the current state and goals of western liberalism. It seems many in the Church support these ends as well.

[@mrsc6917]

For those Orthodox who say that their church has continuity between ethnic lines and no issues whatsoever, I have not found that to be the truth. I spent 3 years joining the Orthodox church. And was eventually met with lies (saying me and my then boyfriend were married because we were baptized on the same day and did not need any marriage rites), oh not to mention the blatant ethnic supremacy and the "always an outsider" mentality. Being ignored by the priest during hard times since I wasn't the ethnicity type of the parish. The severity of everything. I loved Orthodoxy for SUCH a long time, only to be hurt and lost and confused in the end. None of the priests in my area can agree on anything. One says you can't go there if you don't get vaccinated. One says if you do, you're going to hell. I had a horrific miscarriage and was severely questioned if I got the cv vaccine (I hadn't. Not that it's your business) and treated harshly. Oh, and my husband and I couldn't get married in the church, back to the baptism thing. I have not known Orthodox churches to have any outreach, their monastics hide away, and I was smacked in the face with a verse of "You shall know them by their fruit". For me, in my community, the Catholics are everywhere helping everyone, and acknowledge when they mess up(which of us hasnt?). I didn't even know about Orthodoxy until I actively sought it out, that's how much they keep to themselves. Catholics are quite visible. I may not agree with everything 100% with any other human on earth. But the more I study, the more universal Roman Catholism is. None of the orthodox branches in my town get along (except the Antioch and Coptic parishes). I left the Serbian Orthodox church about 2 years ago. I visited a few months ago and was again met with hostility, which only solidified I made the right choice. I've been praying on all of this, and I hope the Lord makes my path clear soon.

[@sillysyriac8925]

None of what you said disproves anything whatsoever about Orthodoxy. I have been going to orthodox churches as long as you have and have never encountered this as sad as your situation has been.

[@JohnDoe19991]

Orthodox churches have been run by Government from the start . In the beginning the Patriarch was the Emperor of Constantinople now it's Ruler of Russia like Peter the Great , Ivin the terrible , Recently Putin . Interestingly recently the Bishop of Constantinople excommunicated Bishop Cyrill of Moscow because of the war . Orthodox is more like a national identity you cannot fully become Orthodox if you are not from the geographical area . They always diss Catholics just like Protestants and they have this sense of superiority like Nazis .

[@canibezeroun1988]

@@sillysyriac8925 The poster is simply saying that the Orthodox believe that they are without problems and frankly, I think their churches have only resisted because they are far from the tendrils of Columbia through the US government.

[@MM22272]

The synod will come and go like so many things in history, but come what may, the Church won't change. It's an ecclesiastical global chat room with lots of chatter. I'd suggest not becoming too excited or distracted by it. Keep focused on Jesus Who is our salvation.

[@MrsYasha1984]

If this synodhis an attack... we can sit back and enjoy the show in trust. God will do something amazing with it!

[@davidmascarenas9830]

Too late, the Church already changed, in the last few years alone they allow divorce and remarried to get communion and they changed the teaching on the dealth penalty. Both of these are very serious. By this point a very strong argument can be made that Catholicism is not true unless Bergoglio is not a valid pope.

[@simplekentuckypermaculture6321]

...except the RC church has been the reformed church since the early days of the schism...literally the first protestants. Once you started your ball rolling, you couldn't stop it and now you've got rainbow masses and pachamama idols desecrating churches...ntm all the sex abuse. The RC church will not be the same in 10 years let alone 100. It sure isn't the same thing it was 10 years ago...or 100.

[@MM22272]

@@simplekentuckypermaculture6321 Insofar as some members of the Roman Catholic Church have sinned, wouldn't moral reform be advisable? What other denominational congregation not also have sinners in need of moral reform? If the Roman Catholic Church improves in 10 or 100 years, wouldn't that be desirable? What Church would not be in need of reform?

[@oliverclark5604]

@@MrsYasha1984 opposition to Pope Francis is in reaction to an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased 'familyist' family persons of emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members with a false status inducement of "higher vocation" of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching document': TTMHS, PCF, 195, 35) for economic advantages of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising this synodality of keeping in uncertainty of belief the inseparability and qualitative equality of process and progress by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@johnpecoraro1720]

The Catholic Church has been changing doctrine since Charlemagne and the Filioque

[@ungas024]

Wrong, name me 3 major doctrines that the Catholic Church have changed since Charlemagne.

[@johnpecoraro1720]

@@ungas024 well I’ve already mentioned one.. the Filioque.. 2. papal supremacy, while the Orthodox recognizes the primacy of the see of Rome (because of the martyrdom of Peter and Paul) supremacy is an innovation. And is exactly why Romans are in the mess they are today.. 3 The the defining of the Immaculate conception. While not exactly doctrine it’s impacts are huge.. the normative Liturgy of the Romans is essentially Lutheran.. go to any 2 Roman churches, you very may end up the two different liturgies.. you have no unity in worship. .. clowns at one liturgy and high church at another. You don’t have Bishops in a real sense.. rather they are merely administrators.. managers. The only Bishop Romans have is Francis.. It won’t be long until you have women deacons and bless LGBT unions.. papal supremacy is a two edged sword..

[@ungas024]

​@@johnpecoraro1720 All you have written are not changes but addition to the existing doctrine, Papal Supremacy is still there or you are talking about Papal infallibility? All those wet dreams of yours will never happen, trust me, the Magisterium is higher than a synod.

[@johnpecoraro1720]

@@ungas024 adding to a doctrine is by definition changing it. SMH.. Any sane Orthodox person would not want unity with the Roman Church as an ecclesial body. Every day that passes you become more and more like the Anglicans and who wants that mess.. your magisterium as you call it, can trump a Council like Nicea?

[@johnpecoraro1720]

@@ungas024 yes I’m referring to both supremacy and infallibility..

[@canibezeroun1988]

Since I have been on the Journey this is the first criticism of the Pople I have heard that was legitimate seemingly. I will pray for the continued evangelization of my area and that Christ will bless my efforts to that end. I have faith that I did not come home for it all to end here.

[@paulthomas955]

Remember when the Catholic church was a TEACHING church? Man, I long for those days

[@oliverclark5604]

Listening is active contributing process - passive receiving progress in uncertainty keeping of unity. Hence it is prayer.

[@paulthomas955]

@@oliverclark5604 listening to n9n catholics and heretics (and the worldly powers)about what THEY WANT the church to be is prayer? Lol Not seeing it

[@oliverclark5604]

@@paulthomas955 Is it 'will' to in uncertainty: "... keep them in thy name ..." (RSV John 17:11), not "want ... to be"? Is to "keep" unity a 'do-ing' of and 'be-ing' in the will? Whose 'will'? What 'will'? Is this 'will' "... that they may all be one..." (RSV John 17:21)?

[@oliverclark5604]

@@paulthomas955 Is "Not seeing it" "Blessed" (John 20:29)?

[@paulthomas955]

@Oliver Clark ? Not sure I understand what you're trying to say? Has the church in its long history ever done this before? Has it ever been weaker and ugly as it is now?

[@TheGringoSalado]

Fr James Martin appointed to the most recent synod…. ABL was right to resist the integral liberalism of V2. We are at this point by design

[@Delilah122]

I think we have lost young people to the church because they are selfish and don’t want to spend the time going. They don’t think it’s necessary. I believe all they think is I just have to believe and I’m all set. How do you fix that?

[@pamconboy4315]

We want authentic Catholic Faith according to the teachings of Christ, we do not want the Church to go against the clear teachings of Christ in order to pacify those who are not willing to be true to the Faith.

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

Every synod during this failed pontificate has been a complete disaster. So when they announced an actual synod on “synodality” I knew that reality was gone and the satire was just writing itself. It’s less a hostile takeover and more a lame display of perfidious dishonesty. It’s enemies of the Faith in bishop’s robes destroying the Church from within while telling us that this is what we wanted. Utter gaslighting.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Jeff Finkbonner, 'the interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35). The "feature" of an exercise of an absolute power of his simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising it by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed "disconnect" or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@sarahj3349]

You seem upset that two contrasting viewpoints were summarized, but then are also upset that one viewpoint might get edited out in a summary, so it seems you are unhappy either way. The summaries with contrasting viewpoints seems the better way to go - a more accurate representation of what was heard.

[@erinsymone1645]

You are right, but this guy has a demonstrable inability to tolerate what triggers him.

[@fr.hughmackenzie5900]

It's also sadly turned out that way with some of our summary documents on this side of the pond. But it didn't need to. At least in my area it was presented not as a chance to discuss (non-negotiable) Chruch teaching but to hear why people, especially those distanced from the Church, find them, and Her, so difficult. But it was too short notice to plan properly that constructive type of engagement. Some gallantly tried and failed. And of course, as you highlight, there were some confusing contra-indications!

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Being a faithful Catholic has always been hard. The object is to grow in virtue by following the narrow way, not the easy road to perdition.

[@fr.hughmackenzie5900]

@@carolynkimberly4021 indeed, and listening to enemies, based upon our faithfulness, would have been virtuous!

[@davidmascarenas9830]

Lets speak realistically, there is nothing about this about listening. It is all just a sham to promote heresy into the Church.

[@fr.hughmackenzie5900]

@@davidmascarenas9830 As often, nice one-liner, pity about the execution.

[@wendyfield7708]

But bishops who are not in unity with the Pope do not have apostolic authority…..this collegiality meaning is clearly stated in Vatican II documents.

[@zachsmith5515]

the Vatican II documents are the cause of the problem

[@terezagrbin4357]

yes that isso painful to me how churches and schools are closing and "church" just responding to accept all religion as same and it is not true. Our ancestors build churches , schools, hospitals and these day all is gone and pope is only concerned with destroying church by saying all are same

[@oliverclark5604]

Tereza Grbin, do-ing roles as helpers of the family (church and state) are the same when advantageously combined by an exercise of an absolute power of authorisation as by Pope Francis in his role-identity in his consecrated Jesuit order religious family marriage on 10 June 2021. Opposition to Pope Francis is in reaction to an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased 'familyist' family persons of emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members with a false status inducement for economic advantages of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising it by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@JoshAlicea1229]

God didn’t give up on Israel just because Saul turned away from God. Stay faithful Catholics!

[@mariepaukowits1709]

Our family loves the traditional Latin mass. Our boys love serving as alterboys!

[@R.C.425]

THANK YOU

[@patrickfahey6722]

The deposit of faith cannot be added or subtracted from or changed in any way. This supposed synodal path is a road to hell.

[@oliverclark5604]

Patrick Fahey, opposition to Pope Francis is in reaction to an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased 'familyist' family persons of emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members with a false status inducement of "higher vocation" of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching document': TTMHS, PCF, 195, 35) for economic advantages of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising this synodality of keeping in uncertainty of belief the inseparability and qualitative equality of process and progress by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@haydongonzalez-dyer2727]

Comments love

[@sarahj3349]

The orthodox parish i belong to barely participated because they didn’t think they’d be heard anyway. Which IMO contributes even more to the problem of under representation. Not the fault of the Vatican or the diocese, but in actuality with the laity.

[@justinward3218]

What child willingly submits to a parent who doesn’t have their shit together? What child respects a parent who doesn’t respect their parents? What child accepts the leadership of a parent who’s path changes with the wind? Why are young people leaving the Church? Same reasons I often feel silly for joining it.

[@davidmascarenas9830]

Ignoring the heresy of Bergoglio was the wrong response since 2016 when he sneakily said that contraception was ok in the case of the zika virus. That is when the benefit of the doubt should have uniformly ended across the board.

[@johnhoelzeman6683]

He is Pope Francis, call him by that

[@davidmascarenas9830]

@@johnhoelzeman6683 why are you being so rigid? Bergoglio does not appreciate rigidity or clericalism and you seem to promoting those things with your comment. I am just out here following Bergoglio's advice, "Go make a mess in your parishes."

[@RickW-HGWT]

@@johnhoelzeman6683 Daddy , we can call him what we like , we don't your consent, I call him a moral imbecile as that is what he has shown himself to be , look at the renewal of the evil Chinse agreement as one of many examples of him being neither holy nor a spiritual father . He is a shame to the church and the faithful, he has failed us as a man and priest , look at the heretics perverts and traitors he surrounds himself with as further evidence of his destructive papacy. Your admonition infers an authority to respect him that is amusing considering the disrespect that he heaps on traditional religious and laity , he has lost the moral authority his office and the church should have by his incompetent leadership and moral example.

[@johnhoelzeman6683]

@@RickW-HGWT if you're Catholic, then you are required to call him what his office demands, and in this case, it's Pope Francis, just as a priest should be referred to as Father and a Bishop as Bishop. If you claim to be Catholic but don't do these things, you have more in common with Protestants, except even they're willing to call him Pope, so they might even be better

[@RickW-HGWT]

@@johnhoelzeman6683 I am Catholic, I just don't believe bergoglio is by his actions and statements, he is the Pope, just one of the worst ever, the borgia popes look good by comparison. As far as his office he is a disgrace to it and the faithful given the scandals and outrages he has engaged in . If he is disrespectful to me then I extend the same to him, I would not address jimmy martin, mccarrick, mahoney or any other excrement in clerical garb as they are not worthy of the office or authority that they misuse. Obsequious devotion to the clergy has given us the scandals and the falling numbers in the west, there are too many who have abused their authority and esteem to do evil without rebuke or punishment. As far as the protestant comparison is that a rebuke, insult, admonition ?, your boy bergoglio had a statue and stamp honoring luther so he seems good with them. Hell he seems to love pagan idols like the pacamama , the wiccan stang, the earth mother coin, and his deal with the ccp and the Catholic patriotic association he gives assent to godless atheists to run the church in China. Look up Bishop Lei Shiyin of Leshan and his blessings of the party, the grace of the party on our betrayed brethren, bergoglio is more then good with that so the protestant crack has no condemnation or sting behind it.

[@jonathanstensberg]

Pray the Holy Spirit pulls the rabbit out of the raging dumpster fire on this one.

[@oliverclark5604]

How are 'do-ing' and 'be-ing' related? Is this "listening"? Is the Synod on Synodality a, in uncertainty, keeping of unity?

[@EdwardGraveline]

join us. St. Paul Street Evangelization. Needed now more than ever.

[@halleylujah247]

Please talk to Micheal Lofton about this issue and any questions about the Magesterium.

[@UncleKlausSchwab]

All he does is attack Catholics

[@stevedoetsch]

Lofton is a pseudo-intellectual and grifter who emotional grasps at different religions that suit what he wants at the time he picks them. He been at least 3 different religions, including Muslim and Protestant.

[@halleylujah247]

@@UncleKlausSchwab This is called libel please repent and delete.

[@halleylujah247]

@@stevedoetsch This is calumny. Please delete

[@ironymatt]

A conversation between Lofton and Holdsworth would be great. They embody two different approaches, but both are committed to clarifying and revitalizing the faith

[@solibeata6642]

Too little too late. Phil Lawler wrote an excellent book in “The Faithful Departed” in 2008 about one large influential diocese. It is now 2022. 14 years of this nonsense and nothing but one disaster after another. The once One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is no more than a small remnant of people - true believers-… and if you question this “When the Son of Man returns, will He find any faith”. At the time of the Arian crisis, 20% of Christians in St. Athanasius time were called heretics because 80% including “Rome” believed that heresy. Being nice gets us no where. Resistance to the lies is what the faithful need to be about. Getting up and leaving Holy Mass when being preached for starters

[@solibeata6642]

lies being preached!

[@benry007]

So whats the plan for Catholics if the Pope takes you into obvious heresy?

[@maryspencer4274]

Your proposal of St. PJ II to go back to the first millennium church is interesting and I wonder if this would both bring us closer to the Eastern Rite and may be the road to the end of authoritarian governments and bring us true peace.

[@ingridlinbohm7682]

No it will produce Satans desire to destroy the church as in 1054.

[@mariac4602]

Brian, that image you showed in the beginning of this video...what was its source? Where was it originally posted and by whom? I ask for the sake of transparency and honest reporting because Inflammatory images without full context causes unnecessary division, confusion and anger. God bless.

[@BrianHoldsworth]

www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/252406/what-s-behind-the-woman-priest-facebook-post-from-the-synod-of-bishops

[@jozsefnemeth935]

The motivation of the synod is captured by 21:21 the Church is not fulfilling its mission of evangelization and at 38:00 that an interplay between Church and society is assumed where the dominant feature should be Church fertilising the culture. The crisis is that instead of this interplay there is a complete disconnect. ... Beauty and strength of faith mentioned ..... Perhaps connectedness to reality of creation, fate, relationships? .... Thank you, I listened twice to this interview.

[@oliverclark5604]

to Jozsef Nemeth, "the interplay between the Church and society" is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35). The "feature" of an exercise of an absolute power of his simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 precedes the meetings of this Synod as example for it. The falsely purported presumed "disconnect" or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@therese6447]

We can't change doctrine to recruit fallen away Catholics or Protestants or those who are aggrevied...we can be more inviting, we can be more pastoral without countering doctrine...must uphold doctrine...we can educate them to the faith but they have to change to Christ or we are in danger of making the Church protestant...but having faith the gates of hell won't prevail and the Holy Spirit cannot guide the Church to error.

[@oliverclark5604]

Therese, I put it as in uncertainty of belief (not faith) to 'do' more "inviting" as our helper of the family procreation gift role and to "be" more receptive in our family member identities in need of union. Belief is in uncertainty the keeping of inseparability of thinking reason and having faith feelings heart.

[@terezagrbin4357]

yes that's true as here in Australia last 50 years I never see children in church, now adults and churches are empty, fruits of Novis order mass or Vatican 2

[@aleksandarstavric2226]

Papal theologians never, and even today, do not know that God, One in Essence, Triune in Persons, is accessible to created beings through countless uncreated grace energies, without which there is no real communion with God. The essence of God is unknowable and inaccessible to every creature, both angels and men; but the energies of God, Who are also God, are the grace that is poured out on God's creatures and make them adopted children of the Heavenly Father. This grace of the Holy Trinity deifies man, cooperating with him in the triumph of free human will. With Christ's Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection, the possibility of deification became real, and the saints, infused with God's grace, illuminated and washed by it, became, as the Fathers say, "gods by grace". This teaching of Holy Orthodoxy, left by Christ to the Church as experience and life, seemed so incomprehensible to the papists that two Latin-minded monks, Verlaam and Akindin, in xiv century, attacked, (with all their might and papist pride ) the ascetics of Mount Athos - the hesychasts, led by Saint Gregory Palamas, Those orthodox monks - experienced in prayer and enlightened by God -rewelded truth , knew that man - a creature ,can be united with his Almighty and All-loving Creator through grace energies, manifested as light in Christ's Transfiguration on Mount Tabor. Papists claimed that grace is from this world - and that man is saved by his own strength and "good deeds". That teaching was decisively rejected by the Orthodox, and it is still present in the West to this day. The God of the papists is obviously the god of the philosophers of this century, and not the Living and True God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God who loves mankind, who sanctifies all creation with His grace through the Church. That's why the Greek theologian Galitis is right when he says: "Belief in such a God (as the papists believe) is no different from GODLESSNESS (...) We cannot reach God with self - created graces and created means, because we are eternal prisoners of matter and we cannot overcome the barrier of materiality. Such a God does not exist, we do not need it." The papal God is an idol of the true God, says Galitis; and idols are, of course, forbidden to worship. The chasm between the Creator and the creation, unbridgeable by the forces of the creation itself, is bridged by the God-man Christ and eternal energies of The Trinity. " Papal theologians continued to slander the God of Love in many other ways. First of all, they claimed that God punished Adam and Eve with death, and the original teaching of the Church is that Adam and Eve punished themselves with death, listening to the persuasion of the devil and deciding to eat the fruit of knowledge from the Tree of Good and Evil . Anselm of Canterbury invented the theology of "God's revenge" according to which God was so "offended" by Adam's sin that His Son had to become a Man so that, through the Cross of Christ, the Heavenly Father would "take revenge" on the human race: only in this way, justice is satisfied by and for papist God -tyrant. Western man heard that God is Love, but he did not know why God is - love, if He is constantly angry and holy, and if He created hell in order to torment sinners in it. Orthodox teaching is, of course, completely different. God IS love, and that Love is Fire (Hebrews, 12. 29). He pours out his Love to literal creatures, angels and people, always and constantly, and expects them to freely reciprocate his love. However, the former angels, blinded by pride and sunk into darkness, poisoned by hatred towards God, became devils, and unrepentant sinners, renouncing God and His love, joined the devils in pride and rebellion. God loves them eternally, pouring out the Fire of Love on them. They hate Him eternally, retaliating against Him with the darkness of their minds and hearts. Not knowing about it, and thinking that God is an eternal sadist, the West rebelled against such a God and atheism, godlessness, which is always antitheism, anti-God - was born. Because the "creator of hell" cannot be loved: he is either feared or hated. Atheism, it should be remembered once and for all, did not appear in the Orthodox East, but in the heretical, inquisitorial, theology-feared West.

[@oliverclark5604]

How to keep unity is always in uncertainty. What is unity and how to achieve it sounds like chicken and egg questions. Hence, in uncertainty, keeping, not making is the key.

[@admiralbob77]

Why are you afraid to hear from the people of God? Why would we have any fear of that? I remember a few years ago, you were cited as part of a popular uprising in the church by younger people trying to reignite the liturgy in the Catholic Church - that the CCCB were surprised to learn younger people were interested in the liturgy. If it was right for the bishops to hear you then - why is it wrong for the church to seek out the counsel of the people now? Yes, not everyone will make sensible suggestions. But we're going to just.... ignore everyone because of this? Incongruent with your own ministry, frankly.

[@lightinlondon8168]

Yes.

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

Is the synodal process a de-facto doctrinal Vatican III council?

[@zachsmith5515]

yup!

[@MrsYasha1984]

No it's not. Go to the channel of Reason and Theology for the distinctions. A synod can never have the same authority as a ecumenical council.

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

​@@MrsYasha1984 Thank you.

[@oliverclark5604]

to TheLincoln..., The keeping of the inseparability of process and progress of the synod on synodality is a taking hold of the Vat 11 Council including in correcting its errors such as in OT, 1965, 10: "greater excellence", and GE, 1995, 3: "entrust" as should be by others to the family not by parents to others, and errors in teaching documents based on the magisterium of this Council and the Roman Pontiffs such as Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35: "higher vocation". Opposition to Pope Francis is in reaction to an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased 'familyist' family persons of emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members with a false status inducement of "higher vocation" of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God for economic advantages of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising it by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@guygeorgesvoet4177]

you conceive the start-off in the form of a seemingly unbiased democratic information-gathering proces which you then give a procedural sifting-synthesizing treatment, which is inevitable but also inevitably reductive and biased as commentated, by the personal options of the relators/editors, and then at the end and after some year(s) of treatment, you get what one can only call, the result of a fool's errand, as you so eloquently stated. That is a fool coming back from the shop with nothing in hand, he forgot and lost it all along the long way, but what he does bring back is a complicated story of everything that happened to him on the way there and the way back home and everyone he met and ran into and all they tackled him with and so forth. It seems a lot has been done, and for so long among so many people, thus more consulting it could never get as a process intent on renewal, and yet there was just an air blowing in a particular direction from the start that has build now already up into another of these worldwide worldly whirlwinds (the true meaning of the web of some new fisherman) we are becoming used to under their induced mood of constantly increasing desolation. Fairly different fron The Lord's breeze in front of a grotto to strengthen a loner that was desiring to die before that, but who now is bent again and with clarity of perduring purpose regained, after this breeze one-on-one, on tackling the whore of Babylon, by the name Jezabel, whose ongoing works, by the way, on the www of the new fisherman take up some 50% of all entries and sorties. "The organizers come away, pretty much, with what they wanted all along" says Lawler, -of course, my horse-, but the large public comes away with in reality a dictator-pope looking smartly Perron-like-democratic -his wife did it all for him publicly in a populist manner, didn't she?. Man, isn't all this really something? I've always wondered how the prince would play his end-game on his worlstage, all the reigns being his thereof, and now i start to see, the meanderings of this imeasurable inteligence, that of the very first creature, once closest to God, as he was once the only One there was.....

[@oliverclark5604]

to Guy Georges Voet, opposition to Pope Francis is in reaction to an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased 'familyist' family persons of emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members with a false status inducement of "higher vocation" of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching document': TTMHS, PCF, 195, 35) for economic advantages of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising this synodality of keeping in uncertainty of belief the inseparability and qualitative equality of process and progress by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@MNkno]

This is a very good look at Synodality, in all its potential and all its lack of definition in the Roman Catholic church. Perhaps the clergy have become too accustomed to a "govern by command" ethos, so that the first thing that pops into clergy minds is the false sense that synod=democracy. That "govern by command" ethos, top-down from the Vatican and the same worldwide, has created those bishops who have become 'branch managers', and the rest of the clergy who look to their hierarchical superiors for direction and ignore local conditions as irrelevant. Also, inviting outsiders and non-believers directly into the synods, although it addresses the concern that the church is out of touch with "ordinary people", is incredibly chaotic, particularly when some have the idea that the synod is a democratic governing body, instead of an advisory. A better solution is to have a "Liaison with the Secular" committee that reports a summary of the concerns of the secular and their observed causes to the Synod. If you invite the LGBTQ+ activists, what they say rather loudly is that they want a celebration of their different sexuality; if you invite helpline workers who talk directly with the people themselves, what you gather from what they hear is a longing and a thirst for acceptance as 'regular people' who can live and contribute along with all others in the community. A traditionalist can usually find grounds for saying no to the first and yes to the second. It is true that young people are seeking direction in life, but find many of the prescriptions problematic. Jordan Peterson's lectures are popular because he is offering ways out of the wretched existences that many people, particularly young men, find themselves in, in modern society. The Catholic church's strength is its ability to organize groups, and while Jordan Peterson's rules are fine for individuals, they don't connect people in useful ways to continue the processes. Perhaps part of the appeal of the Latin mass is the preservation of mystery and belief in forces beyond our limited dimensions. Humans have tried, but they cannot define everything in words and theories, experience of the mystic and "magical" is needed. It may be no accident that all the magic spells in the Harry Potter series appear to be simple phrases in Latin. People are hoping for a power beyond their own feeble attempts, to help solve their problems.

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

"A liaison with a secular committee"? Are you really asking the Church to take advice or even bend to secular humanism? Humanism is opposed to the Church and promotes a counter worldview which incorporates religious elements.

[@exerciserelax8719]

Great comment. 💯

[@oliverclark5604]

Meg Nakano, Pope Francis gave his example of his synodality prior to the first meetings of the Synod on Synodality hence not lacking "definition". 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35). The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising it by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@lilianarosete9971]

What do we do to fight back? To respond?

[@JohnDoe19991]

We make them tell why they actually want . Give them questions directly rather than hiding behind long talks they beat around the bush . Like for example ask "are you going to allow LGBTQ marriages , yes or no" then the agenda will be out and we can clearly see which bishops are on which side

[@pamconboy4315]

Feels like me the Pope Francis is thinking as man thinks, not as God thinks 🤔🤔

[@stephenferry3017]

Man, you really picked the one of the most biased source you could out of all catholic journalists.

[@UncleKlausSchwab]

All journalists are biased. There is no such thing as an objective journalist. Everyone approaches a topic with a worldview

[@stephenferry3017]

@@UncleKlausSchwab but some are more biased than others. So when you pick Phil Lawler, a man with the same bias to his ideology as a Soviet aparatchick, you're not getting an accurate report. You're getting unfiltered propaganda.

[@markpugner9716]

If you look at his past interview videos, you'll note he doesn't necessarily avoid the unfavourable types of guests.

[@erinsymone1645]

Why would an image of what young people actually look like be so triggering to you? You can’t even face truth because it isn’t what you want to hear. How can you possibly expect to reach those people if your instant reaction is outrage and being triggered?

[@oliverclark5604]

Erin Symone, well commented. The "triggering" is in reaction to an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, grooming by diseased 'familyist' family persons of emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members with a false status inducement for economic advantages of the families of these groomers by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud. 'The interplay between the Church and society' is purported presumed falsely as "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document: TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God. The defining feature of an exercise of an absolute power of Pope Francis' simultaneous authorisations of his: 1. ensuring his procreation role gift in the alleged embezzlement of helper of the family procreation gift charity donations by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (continuing presently to be heard on criminal indictments in Pope Francis' Vatican state court) 2. insuring his union need of identities of his and his Jesuit colleagues' consecrated marriages vowed to man in Christ in the case of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill before the Italian citizens' Parliament case as an unacceptable risk of fraud on insuring need of union of identities of family members of consecrated marriages, both male female vowed to God and celibate vowed to man in Christ (defeated in early November 2021 after a protest against it to the Italian government authorised by Pope Francis), by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 preceded the meetings of this Synod on Synodality as a real example for it of exercising it by Pope Francis in his own case. The falsely purported presumed disconnect or separation is of this procreation gift and this union need causing extreme tensions withstood by Pope St Paul V1's Encyclical Letter: "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 on marriage having "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" as completed by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 by his simultaneous authorisations with an exercise of absolute power in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" bill cases adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable".

[@bruno-bnvm]

Young people look like homosexuals?

[@snowy1634]

Philip Lawler? Well, I guess I know where you stand with Pope Francis. Hope you make it into the Church one day.

[@honeysimon838]

I hope he cracks down on these heretical synods.

[@oliverclark5604]

Honey Simon, so much for "hope". What do you in uncertainty believe he (Pope Francis) can both do and be?

[@MsHburnett]

Yes it is

[@Efferheim]

Sounds like it IS about listening; just not listening to God.

[@oliverclark5604]

Domminigan, it is not just IS but also DOING as inseparable and qualitatively equal, that is, in covenant non-presumed reciprocity. This is the meaning of Synodality.

[@Kitiwake]

The lack of understanding of what a synod is, is the reason for the lack of interest in the synod... on this Catholics part, anyway.

[@oliverclark5604]

wolf..., but also what a synod 'does' as inseparable and qualitatively equal with what it "is" was given example of in their keeping by Pope Francis on 10 June 2021 in the Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 alleged embezzlement and "Zan" anti-homophobia bill risk of fraud cases as a reference point for all participants at the Synod on Synodality.

[@nickproulx6650]

Yooooooooo… where’d you get the tie you’re wearing in the intro? 👌

[@BrianHoldsworth]

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[@johnnybr85]

Catholic church doesn't have to be inclusive... That's why people convert to catholic not the other way around... To convert you need to follow Jesus... Moreover we Catholics know that when they mention 'inclusivity' it means including and blessing sin.

[@alicemacdonald1550]

Sounds like synodality is a correction of the hyperpapalism that came out of of Vatican 1

[@zachsmith5515]

Sounds like synodality is a correction to Catholicism, this 'process' is being used BY the pope (papalism) to attack the Catholic Faith and Church

[@alicemacdonald1550]

@@zachsmith5515 No, just restoring some balance that was lost at Vatican 1.

[@SkyeTerrier2017]

Let women into priesthood. It will greatly improve the Church.

[@Drew070476]

It destroyed the Episcopal Church, which is a shell of its former self. The other option is to continue to adhere to the Faith as handed down by the Apostles. You choose: the Faith or the world.

[@markpugner9716]

How so?

[@1yogachris]

The synod on Synodality is SIN-ful.

[@gilcostello3316]

Pope Francis’ pontificate will be successful only if his synods on synodality are successful, as Pope Francis sees it: a restoration of The Royal Priesthood obliterated centuries ago, where clerics and lay assemble and discern together, not severed from one another as communicants as has been the norm for centuries (Francis insists a refusal of lay participation in discernment is the greatest loss the Church suffers from), not severed from one another like today with clerics doing all the discerning with their academic certainties, absent the wisdom of the laity, a tragic historical reality, what Joesph Cardinal Ratzinger addressed with a serious warning in his 1961 book, The Meaning of Christian Brotherhood, clerics as a class having totally severed from laity as discerning partners into eternity, a widespread suffocation of the Church. Pope Francis is alone in trying to remedy this centuries-long tragedy by restoring Assembly Life, Mystagogy and Spiritual Direction for laity, a triadic requirement to activate lay formation and the new evangelization instituted at Vatican II. Clerics Left & Right misunderstand Francis because subconsciously they are fighting tooth and nail to stop the restoration of Assembly Life, Mystagogy and Spiritual Direction, what is the restoration of The Royal Priesthood, which would be the ground to activate what Vatican II insisted on for this new millennium: lay formation and the new evangelization, what is not possible absent the triadic restoration of The Royal Priesthood. This central dynamic of the synodal process is not being discussed anywhere from any media source, Catholic and secular. Why is that? Clerical Resistance. Without realizing it, as a class inside a clerical camaraderie (what Francis criticizes most) Assembly Life continues to be suffocated. And Francis considers his synods as already a form of Assembling, what includes lay as well as clerical priests. Yet a terrible impasse persists, for the lay membership have been selected by clerics in every archdiocese to mostly parrot what the clerics insist on, the truly insightful, even prophetic, laity still silenced.

[@rolandovelasquez135]

Ever heard of Gavin Ortlund?