Troy Paris vs Menelaos

nice fight...

[@champagneredneck]

You know you're in deep shit when the guy you're up against is laughing and throwing away his sheild.

[@tobs001]

The badassery scale: Paris

[@EnemyInsideMe]

1:07 love Brian Cox's laugh! :D

[@SpamtaroFTW]

Man Menelaus sounds even more badass speaking like that

[@brotherhomie9997]

i love the way agamemnon laughs lol

[@Anmatuur]

According to original Illiad, Menelaos wasn't killed by Hektor. At end of the war Menelaos found Helen and took her back to home. He died some time later in Sparta after that Helen was exiled.

[@Kotori32]

Did you notice that the Troyan general, Glaucus, is James Cosmo who played Brendan Gleeson's father in Braveheart? This time they're on opposing sides.

[@lordofhell666]

1:13 Damn, that's one badass punch.

[@deadfairie]

i love this movie!

[@DjonAAAAA]

the strange thing is that Menelaos didn't actually die, he returned home safely with Helena after war.

[@mat579]

Voice-overs in movies are a criminal in my eyes.

[@CommanderSuberox]

"Is this what you left me fooooooor!"

[@halleck3]

Film error: Paris loses his shield at 0:43 but when you next see him, he's got it again. Still, a well-done fight. They did a great job of portraying Paris as badly out of his league (which he was). Too bad he didn't get killed - that'd teach him to mess with other guys' wives!

[@MichaelangeloFI]

Paris was a great fighter too! Just... Menelaos was King of Spartans! And a King in Sparta, was raised same way and same tough life as every other Spartan, knowing only how to fight, after they are taken from their homes, from 7 year old till they die! That was their life. Completely normal to win.

[@WildlifeFootage]

@KKZReset11 I wanna see battle of Legolas Vs. Achilles ;D EPIC

[@MichaelangeloFI]

In the movie, Ajax is the huge guy with the hammer. Hector is the Troyan hero.

[@lilbrothaaa]

Killing Menelaos like that was most unhonorable! However, this is an alteration from Homer's original where he survived.

[@hotstreek704]

@koveras13 if you read the actual legend in The Illiad, it is mentioned like a hundred times that Paris is a coward. His arrow that killed Achilles was guided by Apollo because Achilles sacked Apollo's temple. Paris also shot his arrow when Achilles had his back turned. All you people who gave this guy thumbs up don't know anything.

[@PaulRietvoorn]

lol in all the movies with brendan gleeson ive seen him with a beard: troy, braveheart, kingdom of heaven. except for harry potter 4, but i didnt even recognize him in that movie :P

[@eliasvillca2622]

very good!!!!!fantastic troya

[@TerranceMcghee]

Orlando Bloom is the perfect casting choice here.

[@Teih.]

The sad thing is that this kid was braver than any of us would have been in that situation :P

[@brian2189114]

In the Odyssey book Menelaos doesn't die. but then again.... WHO CARES. THIS IS A FREAKING AWSOME MOVIE!!!!!!

[@Andreas-qu9rz]

Menelaus never died in the Trojan war according to the true story. Also, he wasn't an ugly bastard, he is described as a handsome young man and a great warrior.

[@fuzzykins94]

Actually he did. He found about his weak point, his heel, and shot him there with a poisoned arrow. The Greeks then adopted this strategy and Paris was killed by a poisoned arrow himself. It isn't stated how he discovered his weak point however.

[@NearCry]

best movie ever

[@Cestro]

Who cares if this movie is not entirely true to the Iliad? It was supposed to be inspired by the epic. Not entirely based off it. It's still a great movie.

[@skarules111]

it would appear that having every protagonist live, while all the hero's die would make for a bad motion picture.

[@mlks007]

and was not killed by Hector. He stayed alive during the war and finally she achieved to find Helen.

[@fuzzykins94]

Oh wow hahaha. That is significantly different than the version I have studied. I stand corrected.

[@wertin200]

thanks for the info

[@streakz1231]

@Lhein33 Menelaus and his people were called Acheans greeks in the illiad who ruled over Lacedaemon which were the Spartans.That is just in the greek account,but in actuality it was really the tribe of Dan or tuaatha de Danaan which left their mark everywhere they went (denmark,macedon,scandinavia) waring among there other settlement Troy.It was the dorians who settled in argos around 1100-1200 they were not myceaneans.

[@DreadRising]

lol the guys laugh at 1:07 is hilarious.

[@MichaelangeloFI]

@xristodoiiaspis That is what I meant. That the movie is wrong! Ajax defeated twice Hector and Hector fled from battle as both times he lost. Actually he suicided when he understood what he was gonna do. Because he did not take the armor, he became crazy and wanted to kill all Greek kings. Athena blinded him and he killed sheeps instead. After that when he came back to normal and understood what he would do, he saw he was becoming crazy and he suicided.

[@MrSal5]

Agamemnon And his Adorable Laughs haha

[@wolfpackleaderalpha]

If anyone can answer this, please respond: What are those wooden-looking clasp things in Agamemnon's hair?

[@moonachi]

in spear vs sword combat,against weapon odds,Hector broke Ajax's spear with his sword(sharp)

[@MBernard3]

i watched this in english class last year and at 3:08 i was all like "YEAH, YEAH FALL DOWN NIGGA YEAH" i diddnt even get in trouble everyone totaly laughed

[@ziggy1415]

i admire your ability to cope with the hollywoodization. I was so pissed of when "they" killed Melenaus!

[@anmolt3840051]

even in the myth Paris killed Achilles (his arrow was guided by some god straight int achilles' weak spot, i forget which god) , also he was supposedly a stronger warrior than his brother , but after falling for Helen his warrior skills seem to have greatly diminished this also happens in the myth

[@saintconnnor]

if you cant beat them in an honorable way, and you want revenge, then by all means, each man should know his limits, not that i like what he did but it was smart for him to do so :)

[@lilbrothaaa]

And in the case of this movie it is most extreme. You have to see it as an action movie with a wannabe ancient scenery like gladiator and forget about the original. Than it's possible to like it.

[@TheGlyrion]

It seems out of character for Hector to step in and kill Menelaos especially when the duel was agreed and executed as per the rules. I'm thinking Hector would have been good enough to disarm him instead and then he could have ordered Menalaos to go back to his army line and prepare for war....then butcher him while in the war :)

[@Cestro]

@alejandrothefader I was referring to the characters in the movie. NOT THE EPIC. The characters of Agamemnon and Menelaus in the movie are different from the ones in the epic. Think that one up ;)

[@Nonpeasant]

A revelation: Menelaus was a Viking.

[@sixamaras]

HECTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR !!!

[@hotstreek704]

@EnglishGavz btw king agamemnon's actual tomb was found. there has to be some truth behind it because the king really did exist.

[@erobakasenin]

its so funny the smile...hahaha XD

[@uptilthesky]

@TheReeeeeech Exactly. He's just got screwed by the gods like everyone else. Venus promised him Helen....omitting the part about the war.

[@DAsrada]

while I will say he cries a bit much, there is technically a very painful vein in that portion of the leg. This is where biology classes come in: I do not remember what its called, but it hurts, and thus people aim for it a lot. My grandpa got hit there in WWII, and he cried louder than Paris. And my last comment was directed at when Paris shot Achilles in the heel, not at this fight. Just fyi

[@EbsNhexz]

Paris wasn't as weak in the illiad, and Menelaos lived long after the fall of Troy. But this scene is more dramatic for a modern audience i suppose.

[@ahmedoudk4439]

Paris he's A Prince not a Warrior Like Hactor Hactor he's prince too but he have skills from Battle's..

[@Shemaraba]

NOOO!!! Orlando do not die!! AAhhh!

[@benwhite12345]

We are working on the book illiad in clasics now and us that the fight when Aphrodite takes Paris to saftey?

[@pruane2isgod]

@killumoron because the Trojan side works with the American love of battles like the Alamo. Everyone loves to side with the underdog

[@halafradrimx]

All of that because of a golden apple... Heh... Eres is really smart =D

[@tmrock99]

Hey no need to argue folks! This battle never took place in the Illiad Anyway.. Menelaos went back to Greece lived quite a long Life too..

[@PaulRietvoorn]

yes, he was, not the irish person, but the other one, Hamish.

[@Cestro]

why is everyone so upset about Agamemnon and Menelaus being killed? I know its not what happened in the Iliad but that generally happens in movies. Still I don't know why people look up to guys like Menelaus or Agamemnon. THESE GUYS ARE NOT HEROES PEOPLE!!! They're cold blooded killers who murdered innocent men, women, and children for power and glory. I don't understand why people would idolize these poor excuses for human beings.

[@Johngotowned]

Contrary to popular belief Paris is actually Justin Bieber.

[@xristodoiiaspis]

this film is a good adventure but not a real story......omerus doesnt say that menelaos or agamemnon was killed

[@Blansin4Ever]

1:05.. epic laugh..... :P

[@onedeadcat]

Orlando wasn't acting in this scene.

[@Cestro]

@TortugaBreen I was actually referring to the movie and not the myth but I have to say that they still weren't that great of men. Agamemnon didn't really care about Menelaus's wife. He only wanted to sack Troy and claim it as his own and he killed many innocent people to do it. He didn't fight for love or defense of his country but for greed and power. That alone makes him a poor excuse for a man.

[@DeliBasAli]

Yeah :D same person

[@Malachiore]

Dude, now I'm not sure if I want to watch the movie, Based on the Iliad, Menalaos was supposed to have lived through the entire war. Alos, Isn't There supposed to be fog, and then Aphrodite takes Paris away to his bedroom where Helen was.

[@tmrock99]

Correct you are

[@TheRealSkator]

the books are different from the movies

[@wertin200]

sorry but it was a long time that i have seen this move wicht one of the two is Ajax ? and who is Hector ?

[@afromania247]

i thought this Menelaus survived in the mythology to go back home didnt he?

[@MichaelangeloFI]

He killed from behind, after Afrodite revealed the secret of his weakness. And for God;sake no, he was not stronger than Hector! Hector was their hero and half-God! (In the Myth, it is said, as much of Priamos, as of Apollo). Afrodite, Athena and Artemis, had a competition for the most beautiful Goddess. The judge would be Paris and had to give a golden apple to the winner. Afrodite, in order to chose her, promised him that she would reveal the secret, to kill Achilles.

[@Toxictraitor]

Agamemnon has the funniest laugh ever!!!! at 1:05

[@LOTFH]

How are we victorious again?

[@stroock6394]

@koveras13 yeah, with a poisoned arrow from far away when he wasn't even looking

[@Lhein33]

@aminoacid1648856 Of course Menelaus was a good fighter (both in the film and in the Iliad), but he has little to do with Spartans of the classical era, whom we have in mind when we say "Spartans" (Leonidas, 300 etc). Menelaus and the Spartans of Homer were Mycaenean, like the people of Argos, Pylos etc.

[@Cubeface]

@mohawkman2006 Yeah, I'm talking about the movie though.

[@Lhein33]

@rzzzzzzal He was fighting alongside the other Trojans, that's true. But he wasn't too brave or too skillful. In his duel against Menelaus he was easily defeated and later Hector found him hiding in Helen's room, flirting with her.

[@chetty3111]

no the arrow that paris shot was guided by apollo

[@Sumumabitch78]

Menelaus is a KING.He respects Troy and wants peace. As a thank U,a prince STEALS his wife ! The same prince challenge him to a fight to the death. and heheehe,that same prince is a disgrace to men all over.... It sucks that M is killed so early,not because of the illiad,but because Brendan Gleeson does such a good job. Still, Menelaus is important in Troy,he´s the one who shows us what a heartless pussyboy Paris is! "Is THIS what you left me fooorr?" Heehe Love that.

[@superFrontrunner]

@hophoplord we'll come to terms with it, given time

[@DeliBasAli]

as i read from historical documents people of Troy wont like Paris that much cause he mostly interest with women and ranged weapons

[@xristodoiiaspis]

@MichaelangeloFI nice one...

[@Gincers]

1:06 xDDDDDDD

[@JuanPassTheBeer69]

agreed

[@MrTiti]

its bulgarian or croatian, probably hungarian ?

[@Cubeface]

Menelaos is such a poor fighter. Look how slow he is. It's unfortunate Paris didn't train with Hector more, he could have changed this war dramatically, in a much better way.

[@nyguarth]

who's doing voice over for agamemnon Mutley?1:05

[@RoyalDog214]

@AsskickinSasquatch The war was going to start anyway whether Paris has won or loses. King Agamemnon wanted Troy, even if it means using an excuse to get Helen back.

[@daldan66]

that laugh 1:06

[@karimsalhani]

look at 0:09, notice the shape of the helmet from where the eyes see. Than compare it with the helmet u see in 0:00. That's not the same view with the nose-covering portion ;) sry for just being over-critical on the director lol

[@Lhein33]

@streakz1231 Your theories are a bit complicated. Of course the Spartans of the Trojan war were not Dorians (the name Dorians itself doesn't exist in the Iliad), that's the most common theory. About the other things you say I think there are serious problems. Who said that the jewish tribe of Dan is the same with the greek tribe of Dorians? The letter D which they share is the only common thing they have. :) Tuatha de Danann were from the medieval ages, nothing to do with antiquity, Sparta etc

[@Punydoctor]

that's real men

[@Phenomeonek]

Jasny gwint MENELAOS!

[@albipe18]

menelao no muere en la historia original...

[@rapptimes226]

all the people whing about hitory notices its just a movie. not all of it has tob ture the creators chose to spin it around and they did big deal

[@MichaelangeloFI]

If you want me to write more properly english, I would suggest you do the same. I think an epic was written for the war, is more real than anything else there is not a clue how it happened. You take always the most reliable facts you have. And the movie anyway is supposed to be based on the movie, so it is assaulting changing the whole story. Same goes of course for every Greek/Roman/etc. movie made and completely changed the story. I do not respect the non-respectful things.

[@Major233179]

In the book the battle only lasted seconds and Menelaos dosen't really have a coky atitude,And paris is saved by afrodite

[@junarmaeejurcadas226]

bat walanq full movie

[@DrlchknJr]

no he would have died before he could have had a chance to run. Paris is actually a better fighter than all of us. Just weak compared to all the warriors back then.

[@uptilthesky]

@TheReeeeeech So? should he have rejected Apollo's interference?