Bricasti M7 Stereo Reverb Hardware vs Plugins ($299 - FREE)

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Les Vegas

Les Vegas

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@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
Timecodes 00:00 - Intro 00:24 - Plugins 1:37 - Test Details 2:00 - Audio Demo 2:03 - Vocals 3:17 - Drums 4:31 - Acoustic Guitar 5:14 - Electric Guitar 6:29 - Piano 7:06 - Strings 8:21 - Synth 10:31 - Conclusion
@KLOVOrecords
@KLOVOrecords 3 ай бұрын
Soooooo nice to see you back with another great review! Thank you thank you Les!!! CHEERS!!!
@KLOVOrecords
@KLOVOrecords 3 ай бұрын
and regarding the sound: I must say it's obvious hug from the start on Bricasti hearable on Synth, Piano and Strings examples, all the plugins are replicating the tails, but this hug and wideness from 0second plugins don't have. just my opinion. CHEERS!
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@@KLOVOrecords Thanks so much! Yes, but did you hear the difference in tails on the synth at 8:21? 🤯
@KLOVOrecords
@KLOVOrecords 3 ай бұрын
@@LesVegasMusic thank you for pointing out, yeah, I hear, Bricasti introduces rich and consistent tail until the end, plugins are introducing poor not consistent and very different to Bricasti tails... The conclusion is raising - what these plugins emulations are actually emulating?
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@KLOVOrecords I think many are close with the sound, but the depth, dimension and decay of the hardware seems hard to match in plugins.
@KLOVOrecords
@KLOVOrecords 3 ай бұрын
@@LesVegasMusic Exactly man! You're so lucky having this reverb. Have a great usage for it 🙏😍
@OwensDrumming
@OwensDrumming 3 ай бұрын
The M7 hardware is just mind-blowing. No plugins can replicate what it does. Some plugins can approximate the sound of it, but the hardware is so much better at handling the complexities of the reverb- such as the early reflections- and making the reverb feel gelled with the source. You put a Bricasti on a dry source, and it fools your mind into thinking that the source was recorded in that space. The thing with the Bricasti is that it’s not one of those reverbs that always wants to be heard, nor is it the most colorful. Sometimes it likes to sit in the background and work quietly. But as soon as you take it off, the whole mix falls apart. It’s often my main reverb that I’ll send all the instruments to, as it effortlessly handles many instruments at once. It gels the sounds together in a common space and never sounds cluttered. It’s also stellar on low frequencies. Bricasti is the only reverb that I feel confident using on upright bass… the low frequencies are always well controlled and give a great sense of space, while never sounding boomy. The M7 hardware is so good, that I’m looking into buying a second one. I cannot recommend it highly enough.
@barneyrubble8255
@barneyrubble8255 3 ай бұрын
how do you send multiple instruments to it at the same time? you put it on bus and send all the instruments to that bus and then print that bus.... or print the entire mix with the bracasti on the bus.
@OwensDrumming
@OwensDrumming 3 ай бұрын
@@barneyrubble8255 just using it as a send, and adjusting the levels of each track that I’m sending to it.
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
Spreading stupidity, the hardware just makes the sound a little rounder during the ADDA process. In fact, you actually output the sound of the plug-in into ADDA once, and that's the effect, not any magic of the M7 hardware.
@OwensDrumming
@OwensDrumming 3 ай бұрын
@@ricecookercat7444 How many M7s do you own? Also I run AES digital in and out of my unit, so the AD/DA round trip isn’t even a factor. I’m speaking from experience.
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
@@OwensDrumming Many M7s have been compared by different engineers. After blind listening, there are many records of M7 being defeated.
@bigtrecordingstudio463
@bigtrecordingstudio463 3 ай бұрын
Well done comparison! A unique opportunity for someone to solve their question by checking the differences between the original hardware and the software emulations, congrats!
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@bigtrecordingstudio463 Yes! Thank you. That's exactly the reason I make these videos. They're the videos I always wanted to see because I could never afford to get my hands on gear like this. Now that I can, I'm hoping it helps people make good, informed decisions and maybe save them some money.
@AirArtStudiosOfficial
@AirArtStudiosOfficial 3 ай бұрын
I’ve owned the M7 for years and nothing comes close to it, but, in the mix - I doubt you would know. Seventh heaven comes closest to
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@AirArtStudiosOfficial Agree on all points. However, I like I knowing I've got the best reverb possible on the vocal that adds the extra dimension I'm looking for in my mixes so I use it for that for sure. Everything else that's not so up front in the mix, I'd use Seventh Heaven all day long. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I really appreciate it. ✌🏼❤️
@petergreen1869
@petergreen1869 Ай бұрын
My favourite emulation of this classic reverb is the Waves Alchemy Magic7 which has the major benefit of being totally free. Very easy and quick to dial in a good tone.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 22 күн бұрын
@petergreen1869 I didn't know about the Waves Alchemy Magic7! I can't believe that one got by me! They make great stuff! If I had known, I would've included it in this comparison. I'll check it out. I may have to make a follow up to this video. Thanks for watching and letting me know about Magic7.
@Michelle-fb5tb
@Michelle-fb5tb 3 ай бұрын
Aside from the hardware and plug ins I want to mention I’m super excited about the debut song “The Limit” from your group “The Latest”!!!! Wooweee this sounds absolutely incredible! I can relate to those words in the song portion , it’s both smooth and strong, and the vibe is very hopeful and has a sense of both truth and evokes incredible emotion Les! Thanks for sharing this too! When can we look forward to the release and of this new track “The limit “? Thanks for all you share with us , I’m very grateful for all you share!!
@b.hornetiii.6771
@b.hornetiii.6771 3 ай бұрын
Bricasti is softer, wider stereo image, blends more into the instrument, voice etc.; the plugins "stay on the top" of the sound never really diving deep into the material and becoming a part of the sound.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@b.hornetiii.6771 I like how you put that. Yes. I think dimension is where the plugins are having a hard time keeping up. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. ✌🏼❤️
@robshrock-shirakbari1862
@robshrock-shirakbari1862 3 ай бұрын
I have VerbSuite Classics with the Bricasti add-on but never used it for that. Will now reconsider, because I thought those sounded pretty close.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@robshrock-shirakbari1862 Yes Sir! I know VerbSuite Classics is good for all the best reverbs of all time but you definitely don't want to sleep on the Bricasti expansion! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it.
@gabrielthesingingpilot
@gabrielthesingingpilot 3 ай бұрын
Another great video Les! Definitely no observable difference between the M7 and seventh heaven. I felt the Waves had more of an echoey tail… then again I’m watching on the iPad so not sure what I’m really hearing. Will watch again when I get home on my headphones. Hope you’re well
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@gabrielthesingingpilot Aha! There you are. I was hoping you'd see this one. I thought you'd find it interesting. Yes, you definitely have to listen with good set of headphones to really hear the differences. They all seem to be able to match the overall sound fairly easily on most presets. Listen for dimension and the length and quality of the tails. That's where I find the plugins have a hard time keeping up.
@seekhisface866
@seekhisface866 3 ай бұрын
Everything that was put through the Bricasti sounds like it's living within the reverb. While most plugs sound like it's sitting on top of the verb. I'd say the only one that was close IMO was Slates.
@SUPERNOVA.PRODUCER
@SUPERNOVA.PRODUCER 3 ай бұрын
But with less stereo and less information in highs, very blurry after 12k
@nickysmirk1160
@nickysmirk1160 3 ай бұрын
Dude! i love your channel! thanks for every you do Les! you are honestly such a legend! Big fan from New Zealand!
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@nickysmirk1160 Thank you! I really appreciate that. I'm just getting started! New Zealand. Beautiful country. I've always wanted to go. I think the people there are my kind of people and that I would really connect with the nature there.
@Chris-qb5ek
@Chris-qb5ek 2 ай бұрын
Nice! It would be cool to hear all of the briscati tracks in a mix and then some mixes with the reverb plugins. Reverb is like all other analog hardware you can get to a pro sounding mix faster. You can totally get pro sounding with reverb plugins too but it usually requires more layers to add the depth and width.
@barneyrubble8255
@barneyrubble8255 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, best bricasti comparison on youtube. in solo the bracasti always sounded right. how its suppose to sound, the others imitations .....in mix you would think that would add up...
@thePunkRockMix
@thePunkRockMix 3 ай бұрын
Oh no! I am disappointed. I really thought they were much closer. I guess that's my new buy. Thanks Les!
@GeorgeAmodei21
@GeorgeAmodei21 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this SHOOT-OUT!
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic Ай бұрын
@GeorgeAmodei21 You're welcome! Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it.
@felipousismix
@felipousismix 3 ай бұрын
Liquid sonics is the best plugin by far, and for the tiny difference with the hardware, I would rather pay 299 instead of 5K. Thanks for doing this video.
@bill_simpkins
@bill_simpkins 3 ай бұрын
The differences between the hardware and the Liquid Sonics shows up more with fast transient content, like finger snaps and hi-hats. The M7 can handle them without recycling artifacts.
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording 3 ай бұрын
I'll occasionally use the M7 up on Access Analog, but for the most part plugins are just fine Great video idea/execution!
@StopchangingMyHandlePunk
@StopchangingMyHandlePunk 15 күн бұрын
its not the same, used it and compared it to my bricasti it sounded awful...I stopped using access analog after realizing that the quality is compromised
@DanBires
@DanBires 3 ай бұрын
Needing another reverb is like needing another hole in my head.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
Haha. What's your favorite?
@Michelle-fb5tb
@Michelle-fb5tb 3 ай бұрын
Awesome acoustic guitar YES baby this the one !!!!!!! Wooooweeee ❤😊!!!! This my new song right here!! I’m so excited. I see you “The Latest”!
@djGreenALERT
@djGreenALERT 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading this. I know the work that you put in to create it. We did a similar comparison test in my friend's studio a few years back, using his Bricasti M7 and Ludwig 70's Green Sparkle Drumkit. I was using Slate's Verb Suite and Addictive Drums 2 (Retroplex add on).. We didn't match the wav sound just tried to get the volume levels the same in a live situation, but the software fell hopelessly short, especially at the top end where it just didn't sound natural. For me though, I don't have a studio setup like that so my plugins will do for my needs.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@djGreenALERT yeah man. You know then. I appreciate that. I just want to share this with other people so they know. If they're fine with the plugins, then that's what I want for them. If they aspire to the hardware, then that's what I want for them. In any case, I just want them to know the difference since many may not be able to get their hand on a piece of gear this pricey. If they want it, I hope they focus and get it one way or the other. In order to have it, you have to make it a priority.
@djGreenALERT
@djGreenALERT 3 ай бұрын
@@LesVegasMusic You did a fine job, and your passion for what you do really shines through.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@djGreenALERT Regardless of the reverb, how did the live drums vs the Addictive Drums 2 with Retroplex expansion compare?
@djGreenALERT
@djGreenALERT 3 ай бұрын
@@LesVegasMusic We went through his 1176 and SSL desk, and AD2 sounded great initially. Then he played live after each pattern I chose. and the difference in quality wasn't really a surprise. As well as the clarity in the 12 to 16k range being more defined, the kick just couldn't be varied enough to sound real. It wasnt just the comparison of sound, but feel a real drummer gives you. Just the human element was .. The word I choose to describe the difference is .. The real drum kit was 'ALIVE'
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@djGreenALERT Yes. Of course. I think that's the biggest difference. The drum samples today sound great, but it's hard to duplicate the performance. It takes a lot of programming or a really good e-kit drummer to compare.
@markhaliday
@markhaliday 3 ай бұрын
I find Seventh Heaven the closest, but the one thing convolution reverbs don’t seem able to reproduce properly is the stereo image given by the sophisticated modulated ER I hear in the Bricasti that greatly enhances the closeup stereo image
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@markhaliday Yes. Dimension and decay/tails as heard best in the synth examples at 8:22 is where I find the plugins seem to have a hard time matching the hardware.
@OrenRatowsky
@OrenRatowsky 3 ай бұрын
They sound so similar. You should post an unlabelled A/B contest next :)
@xxspinzzxx
@xxspinzzxx 3 ай бұрын
Yea
@lucillefrancoeur8235
@lucillefrancoeur8235 3 ай бұрын
Sounded very close! Great machine!
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Mom! 🙂
@musicproductionstreams8021
@musicproductionstreams8021 3 ай бұрын
Personally i gravitate towards Seventh Heaven the most among these reverbs. I also use Altiverb and Valhalla, these reverb plugins sound amazing! P/s: Erik Valentine just released the emulation plugin of his own compressor: Unfairchild 670. Would you please make a review video of that? Thanks!
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@musicproductionstreams8021 Agreed! I own and have always used Seventh Heaven myself because I never thought I'd be able to own the hardware. Altiverb and Valhalla are two of the best reverb plugins available! Ooooo. I didn't know Undertone Audio made a plugin of their Unfairchild 670. I just checked it out! Thanks for the heads-up! I don't have the hardware to compare it to, but maybe I could compared it to other Fairchild plugins by UAD, Waves, etc. Thanks again!
@LucasBerthier-h5q
@LucasBerthier-h5q 3 ай бұрын
Yes. The Seventh Heaven is the go-to plug-in (at least, here in France) when trying to emulate a Bricasti M7 for live applications. I see this reverb plug-in more that anything else these days.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@LucasBerthier-h5q yeah man. Here too. After making this comparison, I can see why!
@tytansoundlab
@tytansoundlab 3 ай бұрын
Whoaaa The hardware sounds really good😂. I think I want that😮‍💨
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
Spreading stupidity, the hardware just makes the sound a little rounder during the ADDA process. In fact, you actually output the sound of the plug-in into ADDA once, and that's the effect, not any magic of the M7 hardware.
@gerdmilano8137
@gerdmilano8137 3 ай бұрын
@@ricecookercat7444 This is possible, I am about to put a laptop with rme dedicated for reverbs on my analog board. The conversion quality may be less interesting than the fact that the reverb's conversion will not be converted in the same synchronized sampling rate. I know some Techno producers who SWEAR by using separate computers with VSTs and interfaces and mix them in analog for that same reason. Lets see, but lets keep in mind - dedicated processing of the m7 is pretty heavy, certainly more than a core of an m3 has to offer. But
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
@@gerdmilano8137 RME's adda is not good at all, it's expensive and poor... and has a reputation for being ugly.
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
@@gerdmilano8137 Friends who know how to play with hardware use apogee symphony and other addas. Who knows how to use RME, which is expensive and inferior? A person who understands hardware will use RME?
@BukanIbuMu
@BukanIbuMu 3 ай бұрын
Glad I have the Slate. It sounds really close.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@BukaIbuMu Yes Sir! It's a good one! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it.
@nicholasbalette6354
@nicholasbalette6354 3 ай бұрын
Following up from recording group ✌
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you @nicholasbalette6354!
@DnBLand81
@DnBLand81 21 күн бұрын
been listening them more than one time and for me the number seven is the one that sounds better
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 21 күн бұрын
@DnBLand81 Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. ✌🏼❤️
@laimgcontact8914
@laimgcontact8914 2 ай бұрын
Number 7 has the best neutral sounding for itb with a lot of functionality.
@蔡成钰
@蔡成钰 Ай бұрын
很多人从来没有开启插件的X16过采样,所以他们并没有听到过真正的“高质量声音” 。如果有一台顶级的ADDA 配合96k的采样率,很明显M7的硬件具有无与伦比的声音密度和深度,我自己就有一台M7。
@justinb9387
@justinb9387 2 ай бұрын
the word you often hear is the m7 sounds alive , the plugins sound flat 2d compared
@kevinlentz7604
@kevinlentz7604 3 ай бұрын
I love hardware reverbs ,I would ❤one
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@kevinlentz7604 Yeah man. It's a real treat. Dave Pensado turned me on to it back in 2010. I've been wanting one ever since. Never thought I'd be able to get one. Only took me 14 years. 🙂
@benjaminmiller9656
@benjaminmiller9656 24 күн бұрын
BTW love the song snippet! Where can I listen to it?
@bkxt
@bkxt Ай бұрын
Thank you for doing these videos :) I would like to clarify, at what sample rate were these reverbs running?
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic Ай бұрын
@bkxt You're welcome! Thank you for watching and for your question. The Bricasti hardware along with all reverb plugins were captured at 96k.
@BeachPresent
@BeachPresent 2 ай бұрын
In general, it seemed that Waves were closest to the original, except for the Synthesizer, where the tail was short for some reason.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 2 ай бұрын
@BeachPresent thank you for watching and letting us know what you thought!
@andivax
@andivax 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: half of the M7 hardware is convolution.
@NikolausBrocke
@NikolausBrocke 3 ай бұрын
No, really?!
@andivax
@andivax 3 ай бұрын
@@NikolausBrocke yes, Sir. That's why no room size there
@bonzology322
@bonzology322 2 ай бұрын
the other half is a computer to process it, it matters
@benjaminmiller9656
@benjaminmiller9656 24 күн бұрын
M7 kicks the plugins out the park. 3D and not harsh.
@DVNT
@DVNT 3 ай бұрын
Ableton sounded the closest in the first few tests. The others were "clamping" down on the sound too much. The hardware & Ableton sounded open
@justinb9387
@justinb9387 2 ай бұрын
ive tried the vsts and think the real m7 sounds a lot better ( i do not have an m7 )
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. I hope you're able to get one someday.
@justinb9387
@justinb9387 2 ай бұрын
@@LesVegasMusic its too exp - maybe , maybe behringer will do it for $49
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 2 ай бұрын
@@justinb9387😂 Yes. Maybe.
@darotm7628
@darotm7628 3 ай бұрын
What about the altiverb bricasti m7 presets?
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@darotm7628 I haven't tried it. Does Altiverb come with Bricasti M7 presets or do you have to load IR's?
@l-ayex4552
@l-ayex4552 3 ай бұрын
Idk is just me but the unit sound much wider
@Wishlake
@Wishlake 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, but the plugin isn't even worth that 299 usd. The hardware makes a such a high-endy difference, I would just save for it.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@Wishlake I feel you! That's why I did just that. And after making this video, I definitely won't be selling it. 🙂
@seekhisface866
@seekhisface866 3 ай бұрын
As with most cases with audio gear, to obtain the 10 to 20 percent better sound quality you have to spend so much more. to get that. So as in this instance, the question is, if a studio can justify the cost of a Bricasti supplementing it with professional projects and studio fees, then yes by all means buy one! However, most studios are scraping by so not very realistic nor financially wise. I'll stick with my FabFilter Reverb and will probably use my Slate Bricasti samples more often now that I've heard a side by side. Thanks for the comparison vid BTW.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@seekhisface866 Well said! And you're welcome. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. I'm glad it helped you make the most informed decision possible. The Fab Filter reverb is excellent! Last I knew, that's the reverb Tony Maserati was using on all his mixes.
@thematsc
@thematsc 3 ай бұрын
@@seekhisface866 Yeah everyone talks about this extra % hardware will give you. But is it true? If buying hardware things make you happy it's probably worth it. Otherwise....probably not. This test proves that almost all of the pluggs sound great and the Bricasti ....it also sound great.
@АлексейВискалов-и6х
@АлексейВискалов-и6х 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the very important video! (once again I understand = hardware=COOL / all plugins= complete crap) (and imagine what will happen if it works - DAW 192Hz + Solid State Logic Duality(48ch) + hardware ++ mastering hardware (without plugins at all)
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
Well then you can expect the best result possible just as long as the engineer has a good set of ears and a good amount of years experience as a mixing engineer. Thanks for watching and joining in on the conversation. ✌🏼❤️
@arturovidal5536
@arturovidal5536 3 ай бұрын
The closest to the HW is the Slate one
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@arturovidal5536 Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@thePunkRockMix
@thePunkRockMix 3 ай бұрын
I thought the same
@benjaminmiller9656
@benjaminmiller9656 24 күн бұрын
Agreed. And I use the Seventh Heaven A LOT.
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio 3 ай бұрын
Bricasti is far better, seven heaven is very simillar but lack depth, slate come third, like the seven heaven but the stereo image is narrower, like nquyist filters or smaller sampling rate on some low tier modern audio interface converter, Ableton after then material dependant for the number seven and waves one that come last.
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
Spreading stupidity, the hardware just makes the sound a little rounder during the ADDA process. In fact, you actually output the sound of the plug-in into ADDA once, and that's the effect, not any magic of the M7 hardware.
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio 3 ай бұрын
@@ricecookercat7444 You are arrogant, lacking knowledge and communication skills. Your point doesn't prove anything. And I won't waste more time explaining myself, I only debate with inteligible people.
@thematsc
@thematsc 3 ай бұрын
Far better....? That's a bold statement. Let me be as bold as you, you would never hear a difference in a blind test mix between almost any of these plugins........ No that not a bold statement its a fact 🙂 The only thing a hardware Bricasti may do is make you feel happy, when you look at it :-)
@barneyrubble8255
@barneyrubble8255 3 ай бұрын
@@thematsc its true i feel far happier looking at bracasti and using it on drums then i ever did valahalla lol
@jackthetrader1993
@jackthetrader1993 2 күн бұрын
2:45
@liorsilverstein9802
@liorsilverstein9802 3 ай бұрын
Ableton is performing really good, waves is now on the last spot.
@spane5mixline
@spane5mixline 3 ай бұрын
what on earth justifies someone spending that much on a hardware reverb when in the battlefield the average human won't be able to tell the difference?
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@spane5mixline I think at some point, after many years of experimentation and experience, every engineer ends up wanting the best tools available at their disposal. We can all certainly mix without it, but after running comparisons like this one and making decisions on which you prefer on specific instruments and for what reasons, you end up not wanting to mix without it for as long as possible.
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording 3 ай бұрын
If you have Beyonce or Bruno Mars or Taylor Swift's kind of money then you just buy it because it's the most expensive one so it must be good right?
@zenlandzipline
@zenlandzipline 3 ай бұрын
@@RealHomeRecording no. You buy 8 of them.
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording 3 ай бұрын
@@zenlandzipline hehehe
@60secmusic96
@60secmusic96 3 ай бұрын
no need for hardwarereverbs anymore.
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording 3 ай бұрын
They're nice for tracking and a talk piece for Instagram photos though
@nicefish10
@nicefish10 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. Hardware reverbs are just way more fun to use and there’s a certain weight that they have the plug-ins don’t it’s not a huge difference but it is a difference
@GeorgeAmodei21
@GeorgeAmodei21 2 ай бұрын
We're splitting HAIR's AGAIN here. I own both some HARDWARE VB & BUTT LOAD of Software Plug-Ins VB's I use them ALL!
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
Friends, understand the science! M7 is an IR sampling reverb. As long as the IR file is the same, other plug-ins can also achieve it. M7 is not a precise algorithm, which determines that it cannot be like higher-end reflections.
@therealmusiclab
@therealmusiclab 3 ай бұрын
I don't think you are correct about that. Bricasti claims the M7 achieves convolution like realism but DOES NOT say it's a convolution reverb, obviously the other are which is how they can at all get in some kind of ballpark with the hardware. I own a real Bricasti M7, and I have Seventh Heaven which does a good job.
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
@@therealmusiclab Regardless of whether the algorithm is based on impulse responses, or a mixture of the two, scientifically speaking, the effects of CPU and DSP operations are exactly the same. It is not because the hardware DSP operation is superior to the CPU, and it is not difficult to extract the impulse response (IR) from the Bricasti M7 hardware reverb. )
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 ай бұрын
The holy grail is the lexicon 480
@thematsc
@thematsc 3 ай бұрын
Yes 30 years ago. Now, not so much. How do I know? I had two 480. Now I would never buy or use one.
@barneyrubble8255
@barneyrubble8255 3 ай бұрын
@@thematsc sound to dated like the 80s or what?
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
Even if it is digital in out, it will have an impact on the sound quality. The so-called digital hardware cannot be achieved by plug-ins. It is just the subtle impact of the input and output of these hardware. If it is really digital, it will be a pure digital algorithm. It will not be affected by the M7 hardware. relationship and outperforms other plug-ins,
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
In capitalism, as long as the price is raised, and after a hint in one's mind, one will think that the more expensive one is better, but as long as one blindly listens, the magic will disappear.
@MasterOneMusic
@MasterOneMusic 3 ай бұрын
You have a video in your script.
@liorsilverstein9802
@liorsilverstein9802 3 ай бұрын
number 7 is the winner here, waves sounds as usual, like plastic garbage, Slate is close third with the red one and abletotn convolution is 2nd. Slate company is also garbage
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
Spreading stupidity, the hardware just makes the sound a little rounder during the ADDA process. In fact, you actually output the sound of the plug-in into ADDA once, and that's the effect, not any magic of the M7 hardware.
@Clarity-808
@Clarity-808 3 ай бұрын
Prove it.
@ricecookercat7444
@ricecookercat7444 3 ай бұрын
@@Clarity-808 This is basic scientific knowledge. Don’t turn professional audio into religious metaphysics. Scientifically, CPU and external hardware are used for calculations. There will be no difference in sound quality. It is only the use of external hardware that produces differences in input and output.
@monsterlowu
@monsterlowu 3 ай бұрын
​@@ricecookercat7444 Similar here; the plugin version sounds safer, not creating problem for next-step, while the hardware version feels unnatural in a consumer Bluetooth speaker due to its weakness in mono sound. For me the hardware is like a monster for convincing record investors invest more. I have invested in more than 40 pieces of super high-end hardware in the past 15 years, but I rarely use them anymore, except for the Neve preamp for vocals and a super high-end ADDA converter and some best selling bluetooth speakers(focal consumes my ear power very fast). A great workflow should bridge the gap between production and consumer speakers in typical acoustic scenarios without complicating the workflow further.Just my narrow opinion after owning all the stuff, the Brain+Ear+Taste+Conquer Greed are the best sounding ware.
@bill_simpkins
@bill_simpkins 3 ай бұрын
The M7 also has digital I/O. There is not difference in sound with my M7's when using either the digital or analog I/O. The analog I/O is a little more flexible if integrating through other analog gear. Your comment holds pretty true for older 1980s era gear with inferior convertors.
@NikolausBrocke
@NikolausBrocke 3 ай бұрын
@@bill_simpkins This proves that some reverb presets in the hardware unit and in IR software must sound exactly the same. The rest is the psychological effect of confirmation bias: sth. that costs 100 times must sound better. Technically this is not valid for all presets. If modulation is involved, IR falls short. End of the whole discussion.
@gerdmilano8137
@gerdmilano8137 3 ай бұрын
The source material is so badly recorded, that's not what you need a Bricasti for. The m7 is a tool that shines on short rooms that bring decently recorded acoustical instruments upfront, without sounding tasteless. You just did the opposite.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@gerdmilano8137 Wow. That's the first time I've heard that. Thanks for your feedback. You must be a total pro.
@gerdmilano8137
@gerdmilano8137 3 ай бұрын
​@@LesVegasMusic I thought this was about technology, which are originally intended to be tools.So I was not personally attacking you, neither do I require (sarcastic) validation of what I am.or not. These tools have pretty clear use for specific material. If the original material is already very compressed, what is the point? When I have a simple library string sound that is already legato, where in terms of freq and when in terms of time would you require Bricasti's reverberation and diffusion of the device? If you have a piano or a Jazz drum set recorded in a medium sized room, the effectiveness of a Bricasti or Quantec becomes obvious.Not to just a studio "Pro", but to ANY listener. Which is who we make music for, right? How we can hear and identify room informaton and space is not fully explained by science, Yet we all are able to do it. We all know when something sits "right". Adding reverbs to a recording and placing instruments on a soundstage is an art form, and somewhat science, just throwing reverbs on track is totally misleading and see how they sound in solo.... sorry.. it seems to be so besides the point and all about gear acquisition and zero about music.
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@gerdmilano8137 where you're right is this video has nothing to do with music. It never claimed to have anything to do with music. It's simply a comparison of a very expensive piece of hardware, to digital plugins that directly emulate the hardware. I make these videos to give people who don't have the hardware, are interested in buying the hardware or who may never have the chance to get their hands on the hardware a chance to hear how it sounds. Then I compare them to more affordable and accessible plugins, so people know what they're gaining or missing by having or not having the expensive hardware. I give people the opportunity to experience both and make their own decisions on which to buy without giving my opinions in the video and instead, engaging in that type of conversation in the comments. I have bone dry examples of the reverb on vocals, acoustic guitar and electric guitar that were all recorded properly. I applied a tasteful amount of reverb to each so we could compare the sound of the reverb produced by the hardware and plugins. I think this video demonstrates that well and allows people to hear what the Bricasti M7 hardware sounds like. That's my goal with this video. If this was a fine art channel, this video is the equivalent of me comparing five red oil paints from five different brands to see which we wanted to buy. I paint five different strokes right next to each other so we can see the difference in the paint. Then you come along and say that the strokes were so badly painted that we can't even see the difference in reds. First of all, I don't care how bad of a painter the guy was, you would still be able to see the difference in reds. And no, the video would have nothing to do about painting, art, or how red paint should be applied in context to a specific element in a completed painting, but it would be very helpful to someone trying to decide which paint they'd like to buy for their own paintings. You just came on here saying that the instruments were so badly recorded, used the word tasteless, and said that I did exactly the opposite of what I should. I don't take that as a personal attack, but it does sound like you're trying to discredit me and this video. Perhaps that wasn't your intention, but that's how you're coming off to me and most likely others.
@gerdmilano8137
@gerdmilano8137 3 ай бұрын
@@LesVegasMusic I like the example with paint.- but since it is not real instruments going analog to tape, lets use this analogy: You drew smith with Illustrator on a computer screen, then took a picture of that with a Hasselblad. Then you bring up a magic tool for 50$ only that turns the screen contents into a raw image file and let people vote what they prefer. I would laugh it wasn't so many musician souls who already don't make a ton of money are led to spend their dollars on these easy bake oven fake remedies. lmfao Reverbs are tools. For music
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@gerdmilano8137 I don't understand what you mean by it is not real instruments going to tape? We have examples of real instruments being recorded straight into Pro Tools here. Your analogy is very bad as it doesn't relate to anything we're talking about. I drew Mr. Smith with Illustrator. Does that equal my friend John singing vocals into the microphone and capturing it in Pro Tools? Does the Hassleblad represent the Bricasti? If so, it shouldn't because we didn't capture anything with the Bricasti and the Hassleblad wouldn't process or add an effect to the picture of the digital illustration. And does the magic $50 tool represent the plugins? Well that doesn't work either because the plugins don't change the file type, in this example, they would be emulating the picture taken by the Hassleblad. It's just a very bad analogy that doesn't work. Any experienced engineer can tell by your comments that you have limited experience using analog hardware or just a poor understanding of how things work at this time. Also, you now sound like you're saying I'm misleading people and encouraging them to spend their money unwisely. What's the easy bake fake remedies in this example? The expensive Bricasti hardware or the low cost plugins?
@hamanino
@hamanino 3 ай бұрын
thank you very much
@LesVegasMusic
@LesVegasMusic 3 ай бұрын
@hamanino you're welcome! Thanks for watching! ✌🏼❤️
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