BRICE MARDEN on Barnett Newman and Mark Rothko

The Artist as Guide: FLYP's short documentary goes with Brice Marden inside of two museums, and you can watch videos of his responses to works by Barnett Newman and Mark Rothko. See the full story on Marden at www.flypmedia.c...

[@chezceleste]

Great...it was only about 20 years ago that if you wanted to see any good reproductions of art, you either needed to be rich enough to buy the catalogues or go to the library, where most books had the pictures torn out...how great it is to fancy seeing a particular artist's work and just click away and see it all and hear interviews with them and history and context...I'm so grateful for that...it really is amazing.

[@camp3rchizzle]

@toiseywoisey It doesn't have to do with composition. Ryman and Vermeer are both masters of light in painting. Vermeer handled light in a pictorial way while Ryman does it literally. The actual light falling on a Ryman painting is a part of the painting itself, they change appearance under different conditions. The frontality that Marden is talking about here (the "up in your face" quality) is what Ryman takes to the extreme, the actual environment enters into the space of the painting

[@yokyu2lea]

A lot of famous paintings could be and have been replicated by a lot of people, but that is not the point in art. It´s all about new ways of expression, forms, meanings and of course interpretation...and these things are quite related to the context.

[@IdeasOriginal]

great video. All three, Rothko, Newman and Marden are fascinating artists with sharply defined visions (as well as Pollock and Still)

[@vandolmatzis8146]

As an art student in the eighties I was influenced by all the post modernism and such like,I realise how badass these guys are now.Great too hear Marden on Newman

[@camp3rchizzle]

@toiseywoisey Thanks for the feedback! Its just good to hear from other people who care about painting!

[@johnbyronartist]

Liking Marden ever more.

[@camp3rchizzle]

@toiseywoisey I actually agree. Difference being that Ryman does so in a purposeful, controlled and (usually) subtle way, brick walls only do so by default. That is why Rymans paintings are almost exclusively white. And it should be noted that Ryman utilizes the wall extensively in many of his paintings, for that very reason. :)

[@Whatever3114]

There is more to abstract expressionism than just what any fool can talk. Anyone who has stood in front of a Rothko will understand that between video or a book the real life experience of just looking at a Rothko is SO different. The painting seems to radiate with a colour. Be it red or brown or yellow or even orange the painting will shine and fill the area with it's color.

[@rd264]

rothko put down good color. and they float. which is cool and newman's stuff is cool, but thats it, ok, thats all, I wouldnt swoon for them like brice does.

[@erikhuss]

this is about colour as material, about creating space, about process and about lowering, about violence through erasing, showing what's behind, about covering and revealing, about figure and ground merging and activating the surface it is sitting on.... all absolutely overpowering once you get a hang on the theory - bowls one over. and I agree with Marden: Ryman is the modern day Vermeer

[@MrFalconford]

Everyone collect Brice Marden.

[@johnconn982]

Yes, “ the spacing” Now you get it, ?

[@toiseywoisey]

What does Ryman have to do with Vermeer? Vermeer was all pictorial formal composition. The Rymans I know have no composition--or one composition--and surface.

[@claureic]

If you see observe the light on and from a Ryman painting, you start to understand Marden's comparison between Ryman and Vermeer.

[@Whatever3114]

Abstract painting is a very hard thing to get right. It

[@toiseywoisey]

Camp: I agree. I can tell you'd be fun to have a beer with! We could talk paint all night!

[@bagoona]

@codylawrence100 How many Museum`s are you in?

[@CorvetteTeaser]

what is the name of that painting behind him by Newman is it the Twelfth station of 1965?

[@Kevin-tt7pb]

It's Black Fire I. It used to be displayed at the Philadelphia Museum of Art, but it was recently sold at auction (for about 80 million, I think)

[@KEPHALLE]

@c1magr8 plus: Marden didn't compare Rothko to Vermeer, that was Ryman. and, if you did know something about Rothko, you would be aware of his knotted mind (keen to self destructive attitudes), and his personal and physical issues. show some respect.

[@reuvenyehoudian6753]

Artist 🧑‍🎨 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@toiseywoisey]

Drummer: You're limiting the reasons. People do get into paint to express themselves and that tends to be masterbatorial. There is a linear painting tradition in the West that is built onto, one school reacting to a former school, with occasional revivals. It's far from an original thought that Modernist painting is dead and nostalgic at this time, a victim of it's driving force being "originality".

[@miroslaw2000]

poor man :(

[@KEPHALLE]

@c1magr8 if the image in the background of your channell is actually a painting of yours, you're not that "damn good"...at all; and i doubt you can really hold a brush! ps: i see many people yelling at you: go figure i'm not surprised.

[@usaisamess8880]

insane

[@reuvenyehoudian6753]

What is the average IQ of a artist. I am not much

[@YesYesYoureRight]

The white could be annihilation; the black something constrained and tight.

[@GGeorgia28]

that looks hard to paint...

[@craignunnallypurcell]

A Painter’s crit on painting…

[@toiseywoisey]

@camp3rchizzle You have a good mind and writing ability--maybe too good! I respect you man, and no offense, but your defense of Marden is so very subtle and therefore brittle, it crumbles to dust under consideration of it! (: (: (:

[@codylawrence100]

well, comparing ryman to vermeer is simply embarrasing. i would hang my head in shame to have that on tape in internet land if that was me. rothko, in my oppinion is the best of the abstract expressionists (pollack, newman, de kooning, etc.), for any number of reasons which i won't get into. newman is simply...simple and uninteresting. any thoughts...

[@Whatever3114]

Where art has lost itself due to the intellectual clique of curators and renowned galleries who want to create the trends...conceptual installation art is in vast majority a load of 'cobblers'

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

@ihavenolegslol : Yes, he has swallowed the Kool-Aid, at least he's committed, and happy...

[@GraceAlmighty]

For everyone that thinks Newman is just 'block black and pointless' you really need to get more educated.

[@LordDirus007]

GraceAlmighty Please explain the meaning? Or describe why it's amazing. I'm genuinely curious.

[@josephjacob2944]

You really need more stupid to understand the painting.

[@toiseywoisey]

Camp 3: Nice (articulate) try.You could say the same about a brick wall! :)

[@sharinglungs3226]

This is so ridiculous. Seems like a parody and not real.

[@MrYib]

This guy could say absolutely anything and people-art snobs-would lap it up regardless.

[@Lesiku]

+MrYib Well, I have to take the side of Bruce. He told me once: Don't ever stop painting, no matter what some people tell you, promise me that. I kept my promise but did not try to sell even 1 of my paintings. He also told me, that I could hang my paintings next to his any day. Quite a compliment.

[@chezceleste]

He has a lovely voice and speaks from the heart and doesn't sound bitter and twisted like some nameless, faceless people who think that art is a conspiracy against them.

[@panoramikss]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.

[@pintapintor1]

creating works of art out of nothing!

[@kawakami789]

Funny how this art “expert” can’t describe these painting with any level of detail. He’s trying soo hard to think of some words that validate these paintings in any way. Since he can’t, he just spits out the most vague thing that pops in his mind. It’s basically impossible to really describe rothko or newman “art” so I give him credit for trying.

[@chezceleste]

He's an artist...a very good artist...he's not attempting a forensic report....Why so bitter??

[@ihavenolegslol]

this is one of the worst videos i've ever seen. he isn't saying anything. to think someone would dedicate their life to formalism in painting is either brainwashed by clement greenberg, or, worse, their art history 200 professor.

[@Ametsysthem]

masmierdadeperro

[@zthetha]

"The mage - it's just so there?" "That black is so present?" Brice Marden - is his name an anagram? - is so fucked. Who let this sad git out - or did he escape?

[@etienne7774]

The beauty of art lies in the fact that people will spend millions on something that has no value. An idol of some sort........and what does Gods Word have to say about idolatry? No idolater will enter heaven after death. Mostly all artists will miss heaven. For they have faith in idolatry . But not in GOD. Leave a comment if you disagree. The expression OF Gods handiwork, Gods creation, the universe, is true ART. And obviously my comment as well. Rothko hanged himself, Gorsky committed suicide, Pollock's addiction to alcohol killed him, Basquiat's drug addiction killed him etc. What does their artistic idolatrous addiction tell us about these 'great' men? That behind idolatry are demons that will destroy you. And who in the end really cares about the artist? NO ONE!

[@yohei72]

Fuck your imaginary friend and fuck you.

[@etienne7774]

@@yohei72 Why get angry at the Truth. View Bill Wiese.

[@yohei72]

@@etienne7774 Why talk stupid bullshit about your bullshit religion under a video about art that's completely unrelated? Because you're an idiot and a fanatic.

[@etienne7774]

@@yohei72 I'll pray for your lost soul. Repent and get baptized=heaven.

[@yohei72]

@@etienne7774 I don't give a fuck if you mumble to yourself about me or not. You're better off praying that you didn't pick the wrong deity out of the millions that humans have believed in.