ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ - BRICK VAULT Ornithopter VS. LEGO Ornithopter comparison [Dune 2021]

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Emperor_mtn_Dew

3 ай бұрын

Yo I made a video.
Brick Vault www.brickvault.toys/products/...
Lego
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@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ its called copy paste

@janskvara2762 3 ай бұрын

The official set is a marvel of engineering creativity, for me the other one doesn't even come close.

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

The official set was desagned by a team of engineers with the ability to create new pieces out of the blue. The Brickvault set (which ftr came out two years before the official set) was designed by a fan with only access to Lego pieces that existed at that point. It would honestly be pretty embarassing to Lego if this wasn't the case.

@ImTheMan0fSteel 2 ай бұрын

The Lego one is absolutely less accurate still lol

@j.m.w.5064 2 ай бұрын

no shit. you guys are comparing sets with 100% difference in number of parts. And Lego produces a special cockpit for something they can't pull of. Only to come to the conclusion that this one time Lego does not suck. slow. clap.

@finewine1001 3 ай бұрын

the brick vault ornithopter looks more like the harkonnen ones

@1994fishboy 3 ай бұрын

exactly. Its rounder and more stubby. The official one is far more "Atreides".

@youwebz 15 күн бұрын

They had their own? I thought they were commandeered Atreides ones?

@CathodeRayKobold 3 ай бұрын

If you're wondering how he did the title, the unicode range is "Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics"

@ryandozier8053 3 ай бұрын

I think most folks will agree, it goes to the official. Sleeker by far. Value aside, figures aside- it’s the official for me.

@lord_scrubington 3 ай бұрын

the front of the brickvault thopter looks more like a Harkonnen design I think it would have worked much better as a product in committing to the Harkonnen shape tbh, as it prevents it from being seen as "obsolete" thanks to the official set

@kleiner-yoda4133 3 ай бұрын

I agree on the Harkonnen shape and might actually try to relocate the wings, to a 6 wing design. But you have to keep in mind, that the BV model is a fan model, two years older than the official LEGO set and at that time it was not to be expected that LEGO would ever commit to this franchise / model at all.

@nchacon1984 2 ай бұрын

Agree, I’d keep both and add ATREIDES decals to the LEGO set and Harkonnen decals to the brick vault

@interstellarskunkworks8283 3 ай бұрын

Lego undeniably did the proportions and functionality better, but as for capturing the Ornithopter's detail, I'm not sure there is a clear winner. Neither quite replicate the geometry of dorsal plating and tail boom silhouette correctly (and there are lego parts the sets could have use to which they do not). What I think would be best would be a model with the Lego Cockpit, BV body, and maybe just a new tail with more snot parts on it to make that fine taper it has in the film.

@hidicproductions4849 3 ай бұрын

I have to admit, that the topter from brick vault is maybe designed after the harkonnen-design, that is more round and bulky.

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

I went to see Dune Part 2 yesterday and I had that exact feeling. (as someone who owns both sets)

@MiguelCastro-ow5ho 3 ай бұрын

I don't think so, a big difference between Atreides and Harkonnen thopters is that the Atreides ones have four sets of wings, while the Harkonnen ones only have three pairs. The Brickvault model has four pairs.

@elipse371 2 ай бұрын

@@MiguelCastro-ow5hoYeah. It’s this weird limbo zone where it’s not perfect as either one, and fails to be accurate to either.

@keizercas6051 3 ай бұрын

all I see is a model that goes for features instead of details and a model that goes for details instead of features

@nacook2053 2 ай бұрын

IMO, the official Lego version wins on functionality of the wings and overall build quality - plus they are able to make new pieces to suit their needs. However, I bought the plans, and then made the Bricklink version last year and was very pleased with the overall detailing - some of which is more accurate than the Lego Co version - e.g. rear thruster vents, opening rear door, more main cabin room. Remember, also, that Lego produced the 'Royal Atriedes' version, and there were at least 3 versions in the first film. At some point I will take parts from the Lego Co version and update the Bricklink version - taking the best of both.

@_worldx_ 3 ай бұрын

Great video mate! Enjoyed watching it and thank you for the nice comparison :)

@cryonix8773 3 ай бұрын

Real cool! Great comparison video on the differences between these two types of builds. Truly remarkable.

@vincrr3915 3 ай бұрын

Nice build man!!!

@Erafune Ай бұрын

Dayum I have resisted buying LEGO as an adult but this thing just seems like the best LEGO set ever created. Mechanical marvel, and it doesnt fall apart.

@commodorce6431 2 ай бұрын

No disrespect to BrickVault but that one looks a bit more similar to the Harkonen ornithopter which is a bit more bulky and in the movie at least only has 6 wings, rather than the Atredies one which is sleek

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 2 ай бұрын

If it was off of reference I do believe they could've mistakened the two

@gregoriusthewise626 3 ай бұрын

Great review, very thorough

@tld8102 20 күн бұрын

I think this is the new standard for lego sets.

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

I also have both. Bought the BrickVault model when it came out shortly after the first film and the official Lego model the day it released. (I'm an almost lifelong Dune fan) For me there is a clear winner: the official Lego set. Yes the interior is non existent and the cockpit interior isn't accurate. But it's a small tradeoff for a far more impressive looking and far sturdier model. The BrickVault set still looks great I think but it will break as soon as you so much as touch it. And don't even think about folding in the wings. Besides tedious the chance you will end up breaking something is almost guaranteed. By comparison the Lego model you can easily lift, the wing folding is super fluid and feels amazing. Same with the landing gear. Finally I will say while both were a lot of fun to build the official Lego set definitely takes the cake here for me. Building it was a real challenge and seeing all the mechanisms finally come together was so satisfying. It uses more advanced techniques, takes longer to build and overall is just more of a real challenge even for an experienced builder like myself. There are however reasons why the BrickVault might be the better option for you though. Like I said the official set uses A LOT of technic and if that isn't your jam or you are not an experienced Lego builder the BrickVault set might be the better option since the official set might just be endlessly frustrating instead of a fun challenge. Also, and I know Im contradicting the video here, the difference in price, for me at least, was significant. The BrickVault set cost me 85 euros including instructions while the official set cost me 165 euros. Almost double the price. For me it was absolutely worth it and the official set is considerably bigger with more pieces. But it's undeniable it is also considerably more expensive so for a more budget friendly alternative I do think the BrickVault Ornithopter is a very good option. Personally I love both. The BrickVault set was my first Lego Ornithopter and building was a magical experience. But yeah the Lego set imo is just better in almost every way and like the OP, if I had to choose which one to keep it would be the Lego set and I wouldn't think twice about it. Hope anyone found this useful as a sort of second opinion from someone who also owns both sets.

@ItsCookiie Ай бұрын

Derek from BAM. I love the video! Crazy that you were able to keep the brick vault one together

@Emperor_mtn_Dew Ай бұрын

Thank you! It was a feat for it to not crumble before the camera

@JLikesStarWars 3 ай бұрын

This is a really good idea for a video

@AFT3RDAY5 3 ай бұрын

Nice comparison 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I get the Lego one for my birthday 🤩👍🏻

@Brickmati0ns 2 ай бұрын

Please make more of these great reviews!!!

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 2 ай бұрын

I inevitably will

@mvl71 3 ай бұрын

I may have a more unbiased opinion just _because_ I've never read the books or saw the movies. I'm just looking at them as two Lego models trying to look the same. The official Lego model looks very polished, even if you didn't know what it should look like. It's clear to see that a lot of thought went into the design. Personally I just love the blend of SF with technical stuff, but I appreciate that that's not everyone's cup of tea. I don't really _mind_ the colored spots but it would have been neater all round if they stuck with black or grey. Still, it doesn't bother me. Dune fans will probably disagree, and as fans they do have a point. That other model though... The other one looks like it's made out of several parts from other sets that were lying around. If the latter one was cobbled together by an enthousiastic 12 year old I'd give him or her a prize because for something that is made out of spare parts it looks awesome. But not for an expensive set. I'd expect more for that kind of money. The official Lego model is just _better_ in my opinion. Perhaps I should read the books and watch the movies and then come back here, but for now, overall, the official Lego model wins this round.

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

First of all as someone who has built both models: I *highly* doubt a 12 yo could design something as intricate and complex as the BrickVault Ornithopter. Second it is worth noting that Brickvault is not a company like Lego. What they do is they take Fan designed sets (like the Ornithopter) and release instructions guides for them as well as a parts list. What they charge for is *just* the instruction guide. The rest of the cost is the parts you have to buy yourself on Bricklink. But they do not receive a single cent of that. In fact you could just buy the instruction guide and never built the actual thing. That wouldn't make a difference to them. The other thing that is worth noting is that it looks like it's made of spare paerts from other sets that were lying around *because it is* The Brickvault Ornithopter came out *two whole years* before the official set and for they offical set they invented a whole bunch of new pieces that LITTERALLY DIDN'T EXIST YET when the Brickvault set came out. This is a fan whose design got picked up by Brickvault who charged (imo) pretty reasonable price for the instruction guide. And I'm super glad they did because back when that set came out there was never a guarantee that an offical Lego set would surface. So it was either that or design your own Ornithopter and honestly, I doubt I could have done as great a job as Moko (the designer of the Brickvault set) Yes I agree, the offical set is better. I had more fun building it, it's sturdier and it looks more impressive. But also were comparing a team of professional designers with the ability to create new parts out of the blue vs one normal Lego fan who had to make do with what Lego had on offer at the time.

@TomTrval 2 ай бұрын

I tweaked mine brick vault version with builder wings, which I extended in matter of both length and width and it adds a lot, build looks majestic. But it came ate price of heavy wings so I added join clips to make them more staple. Official set is very nice too, but it is hard to compare when it is made by someone who has access to movie set pieces and custom build is made by eye meassure only.

@parallax_aerial_photography 3 ай бұрын

There were lots of spots on the official set where there are a ton of Technic parts (mainly all of the unused holes) that could have been covered up using plates and slopes to give it more of a finished look. Then again, some people like the Technic aesthetic and the set is quite popular so who am I to judge? Personally if I bought it I would just cover up as much as I could myself while stil retaining the awsome functional element of the set.

@jonasfermefors 3 ай бұрын

Great first review! If they were priced similarly I would still choose the Lego model even though I'm more interested in display than play. The play features are really cool but I don't see myself using them much, so it's not the most obvious choice but on the other hand I wouldn't be using the interior much either. It's mostly about overall looks and the Brick Vault model is just not as polished. The clinchers for me are the cockpit shaping and to a lesser degree the tail.

@ThePigeon5734 3 ай бұрын

Last year I made a perfect U-wing by mixing custom elements with Brickvault's and another model I bought the instructions for, the best of all worlds. You could do the same here.

@JuliendeGreling 3 ай бұрын

will try

@Mrstealth93 2 ай бұрын

Accuracy is always something thats difficult to achieve down to being 100% with a Lego model without sacrificing structural quality. I do think i agree on the official lego set being the winner here. Additionally, when i built the set, i had made sure to gather up enough parts from my collection to replace all the exposed red, yellow and blue pieces with exclusively black and light grey colored counterparts of the same pieces for a more realistic color pattern. Of course, all the inner mechanism parts, like the white linkage arms raising and lowering the ramp got to remain as they were, given i dont have pieces in good enough condition to replace them. Although, i personally have experienced a bit of a flaw with the set. The dark grey 2x3 plate right behind the wing flap trigger is a bit of a oversight, given it keeps getting pushed loose by the trigger. I might try and redesign the frame there to make a little more room for the trigger so it doesn`t push the plate loose.

@seanmawson296 2 ай бұрын

The official Lego set can be easily modified to cover up those technic bricks, so that also mitigates the coloured bricks in the mechanism.

@neonpop80 3 ай бұрын

Just ordered this beauty. I may like the look of it even more than the movie's

@noah.blackwood 3 ай бұрын

I'm hoping to have both. I have the Brickvault version and I'm looking for the official one

@TheOneandOnlyDuck 3 ай бұрын

Having built both, I picked the Brick Vault model. The exterior and interior detail is great. Yes, there are inaccuracies, but the amount of detail and cohesion in the design makes up for it. The official set is good, but it sacrifices too much for that wing functionality. It's a Technic set first. The BV model is a UCS set.

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

I also built both and while I personally prefer the Lego set I completely get where you're comoing from and seeing some of the comments here about the Brickvault set is pretty heartbreaking who absolutely loves that set. I have both of them proudly on display.

@tigerbesteverything 3 ай бұрын

you forgot something: the brickvault version is minifigure scale, meaning it's scaling accurately to lego minifigs, rendering the model way larger than the vehicle is actually. all in all, brickvault details and interior against lego shapes and cockpit (plus the minifigs included).

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

I've done some measurements, taking a minifure as 6' tall, the ornithopter is to scale with its movie counterpart

@tigerbesteverything 3 ай бұрын

@@Emperor_mtn_Dew yes but minifigs are way wider, and that's how it can be scaled.

@angelakaleen666 3 ай бұрын

so, I just wanna say MY GOD YOUR BUILD IS AMASING!! I LOVE IT, but I think i would rather get the official Lego one insted because it's less bulky up front and in the cockpit, and I would much MUCH rather modify it myself. I don't like the colored Technik parts either, so if I got that set I would modifiy it to fix that, AKA it's ONLY problem in my eyes.

@GatchamanG4 3 ай бұрын

The offical Lego build.

@reckage668 3 ай бұрын

what i want is the lego set but in harkonnen black. and a premade kit to change all the red/yellow/blue bit to black. and maybe a set of instruction to make the harkonnen command beetle.

@cmw12 3 ай бұрын

I agree. This is one time where the official set outdoes the custom one. Impressive, Lego.

@farahmedic 3 ай бұрын

Best undercover Technic set ever! I’m glad you have both, can you fit the BrickVault seats and cockpit interior into the Lego cockpit area? 😺 Cheers 🍻

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

I tried adding more seats to the Official set, unfortunately there is not enough room [somehow] so I'll have to do some more modifications if I want it to happen

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

@@Emperor_mtn_Dew Yeah I feel like that's the big tradeoff here. The BV one has a completely accurate interior but bc of that it looks much bulkier than the real thing (well "real" in movie terms that is) whereas the Lego set absolutely nails the design of the cockpit (also bc they invented a bunch of new pieces that didn't exist yet when the BV set came out) but the tradeoff is that they couldn't fit a completely accurate interior in there. What were brushing up against here are the limitations of Lego and L scale so to speak.

@Snqtcher 3 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD IS THAT GORDON FREEMAN 😮

@neilgibbs3880 3 ай бұрын

I’m fortunate enough to own the official one. It’s a really beautiful kit but the red,blue and yellow bits really annoyed me. So I just replaced them all with black and grey official bricks. It looks so much better and wins by far.

@skrumy70 3 ай бұрын

I want both

@bojandimitrieskimilenkovic9226 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely the official Lego set.

@Satellence 2 ай бұрын

Definitely an official set. But I would try to customize the interior as much as possible

@christrees664 3 ай бұрын

Remove the tail from the brick vault on and can call it Rabbans ornithopter. It had no tail and was a very stout round design

@austingibbons6574 Ай бұрын

i wish i had the pieces to modify the ornithopter to get rid of some of the color pieces

@gray1013 3 ай бұрын

If you just modify the cockpit interior of the official one, then you get the best of both worlds.

@mitchf.4450 3 ай бұрын

Combine them both minus the moving parts and create the perfect replica/model

@NameGueSapeYe 3 ай бұрын

ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ Whoa..

@andreasd.8511 Ай бұрын

The blue dot Projekt 😂

@sornreed 3 ай бұрын

Combine the two 👌🏻

@koiyujo1543 2 ай бұрын

I just watch dune last saturday I went nuts with the f**king movie it's a must see if you haven't seen the first

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 2 ай бұрын

Villnueves movies are two of my favorite works of cinema I've ever experienced. Easily top 5

@apricebcd 3 ай бұрын

I purchased the Lego one for the display accuracy

@definingslawek4731 3 ай бұрын

Where did you get the tiny ornithopter model?

@mikey6020 3 ай бұрын

Meng Models make both the Harkonnen and Atreides versions as well as a spice crawler. The 'thopters are about 1/144 scale. Depending on where you are in the world you should be able to find them at your LHS otherwise eBay, Amazon, Hobbyeasy, Luckymodel, etc. Cheers 👍

@f1rstedition752 3 ай бұрын

Did you paint the LEGO 6370532 BEAM 1X2X4, W/ CROSS & HOLE black or did you order them somewhere?:)

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

No I used multiple pieces to create it, it might not be as solid but looks much better than the white. If it becomes a problem I might use the kragle on it

@f1rstedition752 3 ай бұрын

I see, thank you very much for the explanation. Guess I‘ll try the same :) Greetings from Germany

@GigaChad-ih8si 2 ай бұрын

3:32 thats anakin skywalker in the backseat

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 2 ай бұрын

No that's Paul but with accurate hair

@soleenzo893 3 ай бұрын

Brickvault need to have their lodel reworked. the fuselage is too wide and too short. making the craft's general proportions waaaay off

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Agreed

@Photinus1 3 ай бұрын

Where can I get the small ornithopter you use for reference?

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Amazon, MENG model ornithopter. They'll be releasing a larger one later down the line

@Procyon14 3 ай бұрын

Where did you get the gordon freeman minifg?I can't find it on aliexpress

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Should still be on amazon

@Birs_84 3 ай бұрын

In my opinion the official model just has two cons. First the colored pins and bricks. Why, Lego? Why? I guess that can be fixed by everybody himself. The second thing is all those open ... how do you call those nupsies on top of the bricks where you put other bricks on top? The inofficial model uses many tiles to cover those parts and makes the whole model much much smoother. But I guess that also could be fixed with some additional tiles. So, yes I would also prefer the Lego model. Finally, a word about the cockpits. While the inofficial one may not be acurate, I think it looks better than the original. I like that bulky design.

@bingobongo9521 3 ай бұрын

Why Lego has to include blue and red pins in many of it’s models remains a mystery to me. Yes, I know, it's supposed to make it easier to build the "complicated" models. It just looks ugly. Nevertheless, it's one of the most beautiful models that Lego has brought out in recent years.

@shroomzzz 3 ай бұрын

Playback speed 1.5x....you're welcome!

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Cope harder

@red-hot 3 ай бұрын

@@Emperor_mtn_Dew lol no your reply is coping what

@dorothydeese2048 3 ай бұрын

How did you get the font for making the dune logo

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Copy paste

@lucahermann3040 3 ай бұрын

Wait, how did you do the ⊃∪∩∈ lettering in the video title? That's not something you can just type out.

@harrasika 3 ай бұрын

Same as you; copied it from the internet. These all are symbols used in math

@lucahermann3040 3 ай бұрын

@@harrasika No, while I used symbols from set theory to create the font, the symbols in the video title seem to be slightly different, at least the ones for D and E. In set theory there's no symbol for a subset with a dash, so I had to either spell it ⊃∪∩∈ using the element symbol or ⊃∪∩⪽ using subset with dot. Not sure if the ∪ and ∩ are the same, but the ⊃ also definitely looks different.

@haxxormcbunny7456 2 ай бұрын

Yea- no I think there’s a pretty clear winner here

@JLikesStarWars 3 ай бұрын

How did you type the font in the title?

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Copy paste

@RPRsChannel 3 ай бұрын

*_Huhh....I can't remember a BrickVault version being so....lackluster?....poorly made? Not sure what to think of this, could a 5,000 piece be on the way soon?_* *_Are you saying this set has pieces that no other set has and one can not buy said pieces outside this official set?_*

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

As someone who has built the BV set (looking at it right now in fact) I can say it does not look lacklustre in the slightest. It is fewer pieces than the official set and it could have been bigger (though it's honestly not *that* much smaller) but making it 5.000 piece would be utterly ridiculous. Especially if you want to keep it minifig size. With regards to the pieces. This is literally impossible given how Brickvault works. They are not a competitor to Lego, they take fan designs and in collaboration with the designer make instruction guides for that design and sell them for a modest price (allong with a parts list you can upload to Brickvault) all of their design consists of 100% official Lego pieces. So the reverse is actually true. Because the BV Ornithopter design came out two years before the official one there were less pieces available to use because they invented a bunch of new pieces for the official Lego set.

@skrumy70 3 ай бұрын

Isn’t the brick vault one a kit of the regular orthothopter while the lego is of the royal one?

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

There is no difference, you could be confusing it for the Harkkonen model

@skrumy70 3 ай бұрын

The brick vault one looks like the one that Duncan Idaho took off in

@hextechgunblade7666 2 ай бұрын

why everyone loves the official one so much? it doesnt even look close like the movie one when i saw it i was like LOOL how could they fuck it up so much and then noticed everyone loves it, just why?

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 2 ай бұрын

It's far better than Brick Vault's, plus people like the functionality over accuracy

@einundsiebenziger5488 3 ай бұрын

If this thing looks and works like a firefly and not a bird, why is it called an "ornithopter" when it should be called an odonathopter (odona being the order of fireflies in the animal kingdom)?

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

Onithopter simply means something that Flys like an animal, the ornithopters in dune fly like dragonflies

@bertnl530 Ай бұрын

I would like the LEGO one. Problem however where to put it when the wings are folded out. My livingroom is quite narrow. I am 59, ghe ghe ghe.

@Emperor_mtn_Dew Ай бұрын

I've seen wall mounts for it, makes it very majestic

@nicklockk 2 ай бұрын

I think the cockpit shape is THE WORST THING on the official model. It looks nothing like the movies version, in my eyes. Crazy how different our perspectives are on this. It's so obviously wrong to me.

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 2 ай бұрын

It's far far better than the Brick vault one, plus it's LEGO, I'm an expert with the system and really didn't see any other way besides creating new molds

@nerdtoys2938 3 ай бұрын

Less light please.

@user-zy1zq3rb2b 2 ай бұрын

Lego schon wieder mit farbseuche

@cloarsdiaz3004 3 ай бұрын

This time lego gets the win no question too bad they cannot seem to make pro contructions for horizon zero dawn a lost lego opportunity for the big money I would say other guys are making the bigger and cooler models using lego howeber lego only makes small scale pricey sets.

@i_likedoom1244 2 ай бұрын

6:01 is that Gordon Freeman ? What is he doing there ? Is he stupid ?

@legolas8038 3 ай бұрын

The Lego ornithopter ist the best set I build. For me no1

@o0junglist0o93 3 ай бұрын

What's with the stupid red and blue bits?????

@Emperor_mtn_Dew 3 ай бұрын

No clue, LEGO is weird sometimes

@tardifan 3 ай бұрын

@@Emperor_mtn_Dew I actually have an answer for that. The techic axles are color coded based on the amount of friction they can handle. This is why the set uses a number of red and blue axles and why I would advise against replacing them with differently colored pieces. (although I'm not sure how bad the damage would be or how long it would take to manifest)