The TF2 Beta Experience (Pre-Fortress 2)

[@penrose427]

"I just want to use the SMG, I don't want to heal people" and there we have the problem

[@Sarahm2261]

wow what a coincidence

[@markaeresmanlangit9727]

Probably why valve decided to make the syringe gun so people don't play battle medic Sadly for them we are stupid so we made battle medic anyways

[@thunderspark1536]

Impossible, it's almost like the syringe gun is meant to suck

[@drivanradosivic1357]

@@thunderspark1536 if the Madic's Primaries and melees had alt fire that did burst healing(primaries throw medium health packs with Sandvich stats, melees are injector syringes that have a plus 63% range 20% HP heal that overheals/gives extra health and press R to self heal) as a way to encourage healing since I would also give the alt fires plus 5% uber on heal.

[@LazyBuddyBan]

Replacing it with Syringe gun didn't fix the problem but just made it worse. Instead of giving a terrible gun, how about this gun could ALSO heal people? Now you have a range damage option that is still fills class's healing role even if the player forgets to press number 2. Oh whats that? crossbow exist? its actually still a bad design: WHY ALL OTHER OPTIONS ARE SO GARBAGE EXCEPT THAT 1 OVERBUFFED UNLOCK? THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS.

[@Jon19p]

3:15 “This is something I wish we had in modern TF2” Scramble teams was one of the features that the Meet Your Match update removed from us…

[@LeafMaltieze]

@damsen978 I've been playing since 2009. Valve servers used to allow calling a server wide vote to scramble teams.

[@elithris]

2:40 horrifying footage of a spy finding out that sappers don't exist as they have been replaced in function by engineer's new build-disabling EMP grenades

[@elithris]

(quite the silly misendeavor)

[@TeamCraftable2004]

They do exist tho

[@iamlouis1495]

Is that supposed to be a Beta version joke?

[@elfasto2255]

they are a thing, pretty sure it's the '5' key

[@gregorymirabella1423]

wdym? sappers are in the game.

[@Pudding404]

"I'm really liking these animations, like, like..." *walks in on engineer spasming on the battlements. Amazing, it's just like regular tf2, lol.

[@mycelius7312]

Watching this game is like having a dream about TF2, it’s TF2 but something’s off about it.

[@mycelius7312]

I am honored to be acknowledged by cinderblockiestcinderblock

[@deuslaudetur2451]

ITS A PERSONALIZED COPY

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

Yah, there’s too many medics-

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

If you ever play Team fortress classic you know how similar it is to this and that game is actually very fun with the team play, but am glad the original and the squeal are so different.

[@user-un2pf4ht9l]

Tf2c is supose to be old tf2 with some new thing and pf2 is the game with some scrap features

[@user-un2pf4ht9l]

@Maria Flores oh yeah i miss read

[@seva7500]

@MariaFlores-KAIII was gonna say something about your channel but I changed my mind.

[@seva7500]

@MariaFlores-KAII 🦶 👣🦶💥💥🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢

[@seva7500]

@MariaFlores-KAII fine.. you used to post foot fetish content on KZbin. I found you through a TF2 video and was disgusted. There you go. I’m glad you privated all of those videos because this is not the website for you to do that.

[@Jibblies]

Didn’t know scout holding a shotgun would be so cursed

[@Vienna3080]

As much as I want Medic with an actual gun this made me realize just how OP a Battle medic could really be

[@blueknife7728]

I like how the second team killing is on it becomes the purge. Everyone kills everyone but the next match they act like nothing happend

[@neku-fn8dq]

tbh, enabled friendly fire during humiliation time is something i didnt know i needed

[@themphantom9138]

I never felt scared from seeing a Medic with a Gun more than today.

[@damdinsukhbaatar5903]

There is so much in the Beta I wish they kept! But I definitely understand removing the grenades.

[@jknifgijdfui]

I think a lot of their changes are good such as removing the needle gun cause honestly it kinda dont work that good on scout also making pyro not a good removing armor cause all it did was add an extra unneeded number that some other class needed and not giving medic an smg so he has to heal people

[@logemcdoge4620]

​@jknifgijdfui yeah pretty much all of the changes are justified, but maybe the concussion granades could make a cool secondary for scout.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

I come from the future, the Jungle Inferno Gas Passer mechanics on all grenades and mines would make them much more fair.

[@trombone4lyfe]

finally! im so glad more people are covering this mod, it is one of if not my favorite tf2 fan project and i think it deserves alot more attention than it has.

[@watdahell]

12:33 "this game is really good" "oh yeah"

[@carmenestrada5537]

Yes

[@RollieMcFly27]

The idea of Scouts doing grenade jumps sounds terrifying. Imagine just minding your own business and than he just pops out of nowhere like a Hunter from Left 4 Dead.

[@killeranime3591]

Fr that would be so broken with Scout mains

[@blacklight683]

4:35when you hear medic say "Healing is not rewarding as hurting😈"

[@nicorepetto5781]

the TF2 announcer is obviously awesome but I love the Pre-F2 one as well. Sounds so creepy and dystopian.

[@ethanbear360]

It's the announcement VOX from Half-Life by the way

[@nicorepetto5781]

@@ethanbear360 I was pretty confident it was Half-life related. Sounds very cool. I've somehow never gotten round to playing the Half-Life games

[@SPIRE_FAN]

@@nicorepetto5781 Half-Life 1 and 2 are gaming experiences you won't forget.

[@MaxwellDST]

@@SPIRE_FAN ehhh

[@blubullie4850]

We have the option to scramble teams, but Valve disabled it for their official servers for some unknown reason. If I remember right, the auto-balance system had something to do with it because the scramble teams vote got disabled during Meat your Match while they tried to balance for competitive. Makes it seem as if someone at Valve doesn't want people to continue playing the game or something...

[@blubullie4850]

Also, I thought Engineer wasn't supposed to be able to build LVL 3 buildings, but at the same time you can build a LVL 3 Sentry in TFC. For TF2, Engineer wasn't originally able to build past LVL 1 and wasn't able to pick up his buildings like the Eureka Effect had on its original release. Pyro wasn't able to air-blast (Pyro needed something as an alt-fire for his flame-thrower), Heavy didn't care about his weapons at all, and Medic had some of the same weapons as Scout. I (and most people would agree) am glad they added in the Medi-gun for Medic, but a little sad he lost his shotgun from TFC.

[@MegaMicah12]

@@blubullie4850 Same, although something I will NOT miss is him giving the Infect status, which would be even worse with the Medigun.

[@kulatoid]

that friendly fire when the match ends is such a fun concept idk why they didn't keep it in the game

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

This looks really cool! I wish Scout had Handgun dual-wielding (like in Fight For Sawmill SFM) at the cost of his secondary slot.

[@Axeeco]

ok but the special grenades seem so fun though Maybe not for all classes, but imagine if you could light the gas residue of the gas passer and leave an area of flames for a couple of seconds

[@Appletank8]

i feel like the Nail gun could've been neat for an Engi pistol replacement or something.

[@2fifty533]

for some reason i love how the beta grenade launcher looks, it just looks way more realistic and satisfying plus there are actual visible grenades in the 6 chambers, in normal tf2 they're literally just empty holes but demo somehow still fires grenades from them

[@BUMMY105]

winning in TF2: You get the potential satisfaction of killing what's left of the losing team Winning in PF2: k i l l a n y o n e w h o h a s e v e r w r o n g e d y o u .

[@David-bh7hs]

TF2 was actually pretty much how it was at launch in 2006. I think this is closer to 2005 E3...

[@IDK_What_toputhere139]

Scout?i s that you?! Din't i tell you not to use the personel computer for games?!

[@missingindy]

Pyro’s melee is a branding iron btw

[@jjohnfnchf7535]

Having more multiclass weapons would be cool. If sniper scout and medic all used smg and shotgun got put on scout and maybe the bat could be used between scout and sniper

[@OatsOfMeals]

It was pretty cool to see one of my friends, the A meisterN64, appear in this video. Also this version of TF2 is pretty cool, really cool mod from the community!

[@rymcharts]

the fact that you can kill your teammates after winning a round is hilarious i hope they add it to the actual game on the coming update

[@elpepe1160]

I love how medic is just a more mad scientist instead of just a mad doctor

[@yomama204]

medic having a SMG is so cool

[@pascalsoll4622]

if you like oldschool grenade jumping you can always go on a jump server and bind +conc to any key

[@n0m4r22]

unpopular opinion: the beta outfits of the mercs look much better than the final

[@Okagemi]

Votescramble used to be in modern TF2. Was removed at some point lol. There was also auto team scramble if the game was clearly a wipe. Now that's all relegated to community servers that have it :(

[@brickthecreator777]

Pre fortress 2 is beta team fortress classic but no polygons

[@catpurrito5586]

i do wish that we get grenades again, even if we carry only 1 nade to prevent spam. Having them makes the game more interesting

[@theawkwardpotato1973]

So I saw a video where medic has a poison grenade that heals allies. This can potentially turn the tide of a fight by itself. Weakening enemies and buffing Allie’s, giving them enough of an advantage to turn things around. I wish Valve had kept them in to an extent. Demo’s TNT might be too much of a hard counter for engineers and their sentries, though. And not enough of a counter for snipers. Sniper needs as many counters as he can get. Especially since he gets explosives here which is an extra layer of danger.

[@gabrielclamens3151]

The scout cry when he dies....isn't that a generic sound xD ? Pretty good though, I guess they removed the grenades for this reason lol, and armor just became the hp bar we knows today

[@dumpposterprostudios2856]

you sound like a mix between jerma and scout when you talk basically you sound like a mix between scout and scout

[@YishaiBarr]

TF2 actually does have an option to scramble teams over a vote and occasionally without a vote, but casual gameplay introduced in 2016 which replaced the ad-hoc quickplay option doesn't have that.

[@ChronoSquare]

That map not 2 fort brought me back 15 years holy hell

[@skidandpump483]

4:35 medic mains when a 124 hp lime scout takes away the health pack from them while theyre burning and at 30 hp

[@shadowvoid5798]

"Its just the Animations are so goo- (*Engineer having 4 seizures at once then proceeds to throw a grenade he doesn't have*) Hmmmmmmmmm"

[@shadowvoid5798]

YOOOOO I A HEART FROM BRICK!! Thx man! ive never got a heart from anyone above 1k subs (edit, especially a tf2 player above 1k subs)

[@HatGuy294]

pre-fortress 2 will never be the same, no servers, no players, if there are players they all leave after 5 mins.

[@Mrgatotf2]

He should make another video, it will maybe bring it back a little bit

[@amokey5620]

ist it me or does this guy sound like a teenage scout

[@Bignutsack-k3e]

9:13 Demoman and Heavy, in TFC, shared a MIRV which was to come back for Demoman as the Dynamite, like in TF2C

[@Bignutsack-k3e]

1:01 In TFC, that's what the button was. F for primary grenade and g for secondary grenade.

[@Bignutsack-k3e]

2:21 Scout's original ones were frag and concussion grenades. the beartraps are likely a reference to Scout's caltrops from tfc

[@keecko8169]

lots of what makes pre fortress 2 feel so unique is that is has a lot of features from early source games that tf2 missed out on, like the camera delaying a bit behind the viewmodel, the absoloutely absurd FOV options, like you can have 180 fov if so you choose in pre fortress 2, the very bare bones animations for the shotguns and sutff

[@heavenandhello6629]

I’m gonna miss back when the mod was just 2006 tf2 and not a mixture of both 2006 and 2007 tf2.

[@mycelius7312]

Valve should really consider adding some of these items back into the game

[@barkthespark6076]

Lol all I hear is scout explaining the mod

[@Fatsaver]

This all feels like a weird fever dream

[@fruitsalad5036]

This feels like a fever dream

[@mungyodance3]

this is one of the funnest source mods i've played so far it's so good in fact, that it made playing medic enjoyable

[@Kai-ow9gi]

They should have kept the different gadgets and grenades and many of the weapons

[@lavalord96]

This came out great man!

[@XanderNiles]

I played a lot of Team Fortress Classic before playing TF2 for the first time in 2013 and from this gameplay, the 2006 version of the game is the perfect blend of the two games. Overall, it's more enjoyable than Fortress Forever.

[@demomantf2476]

Brickiest brick saying pússy sounds like he was waiting for his whole youtuber career

[@cyberdemon6669]

I hope they remake the TFC map "Rock2"...one of my favs!! Also will medic be able to infect the enemy team with his medpack??

[@doodledsandwich8432]

I like how they put random stock screams in the original game trailers so we don't know how the classes sound like

[@Huge_M]

Brickiest brick is returning to cement (or some stuff bricks are made off).

[@thedrooler]

the ui showing where the intels are at feels like a giant improvement (atleast for me)

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

This needs to be an alternative game mode in the main game

[@blank-hat131]

Just imagine a pyro with 250 overall health W+M1 at you

[@Manager.1030]

Beta Soldier makes me scared and he confuses me

[@sava28]

I've been playing tf2 mods more than the original

[@TrekDelta]

Am I witnessing a spiritual incarnation of Jerma985's career? The "Brickest Brick" in five years may become a PSYCHO STREAMER one day.

[@gost1788]

Battle medic is actually viable choice in pre-fortress? *GUYS! Gather up! It's blitzkrieg time!*

[@opix_reviews]

do you know that pyro lost airblast but now he can rocket jump whit his fire rockets

[@Vtan_cirix]

Some maps like that he's grenade jumping on is actually in a roblox game called typical colors 2

[@TheDoomMaster]

5:35 "Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting."

[@TremorWatt]

I kinda wish actual TF2 had weapon sway

[@theameister6592]

2:54 look ma I'm famous

[@TeamCraftable2004]

Me too

[@khirnera]

The friendly fire on end of round took me back to the days when TF2 officially hosted Arena servers. Man I miss Arena mode

[@WalterBennett]

Brickiest Brick I will never forgive you for murdering me on that PF2 server. Raaah.

[@TheFoolish727]

Didn’t think I would see a Typical colors 2 ( Roblox TF2) map in this!

[@alexlovesyouvt34]

fun fact grenades were a thing in classic but with the development in tf2 they thought grenades were too overpowered. no doubt considering if everyone carries grenades in Pre Fortress 2 we got ourselves nade spamming with extra steps

[@cool_username07]

With the slow animations, weapon holstering, and ability to shoot grenades to disarm them, grenade spamming isn't really an issue

[@muratsmg62]

Brick is going Yee-Haw with Pre-Fortress 2's Grenades

[@The_french_troll]

Did anyone else notice that thay are no random crits in przme-tf2?

[@D1gg3rX]

Id wish they added boss support, maybe we’ll get it in the future

[@tingixds]

You can use knife as scout bacj stab and also by holding m2 you can do dash intk air

[@drawter3592]

damn last time i played this sourcemod there was only one guy online in a dustbowl server

[@2LitersOfMilk]

is that tf 2 classic? i don t really know if i can download mods to tf 2

[@josegregorioriego512]

POV: You time traveled to 2006 and played TF2

[@Mr.MelonTheREALOne]

hey mister brickest brick you got me to play scout a while back so thank you

[@yurm5767]

Oh yea they removed airblast,there are incendiary rockets now

[@CallMeNoName1]

Also, instead of having airblast pyro has a strange ability to.. Launch rockets out of his flamethrower? Lol, that's strange but yeah looks like he can do it. HE IS A SIGMA MALE

[@backslay]

-medic has a gun -run.

[@boom-CM]

Team fortress 1.5 still up for grabs

[@cool_username07]

That's taken by both TFC and a different sourcemod 💀

[@celsos.arestalll7013]

I CANNOT believe, that I have been watching brickiest brick for like a year, and forgot to subscribe.

[@sundaymornhalls]

you sound like scout trying to do a homestar runner impersonation

[@Seanderson3]

i've never seen so many people wanting to play medic

[@ka7rwkarma]

tf2 would have been a completely different game with grenade jumping, it would be so much fun.

[@awesomemediplayer2024]

Soldier’s beta outfit looks like he got ported over from Day Of Defeat

[@ethanrombach7263]

if this was the tf2 we almost gotten there would be alot of medic mains

[@windygulch7916]

Hey brickiest brick, you got any brick puns?

[@possumteeth1692]

No brick can be brickier than the brickiest brick

[@vanilla9652]

Idk if it's just me but the old models valve made look a little creepy