Bring Me The Horizon are CANCELED.

[@dcleary]

"It just a prank innit" Oli Sykes 1986 - 2024

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Bruv

[@djanejjen]

😂😂😂

[@KingKrouch]

Needs more "like" filler words for it to be authentic

[@jonathanwebster7091]

Who is from Yorkshire, not London, so he wouldn't say 'innit'. Yours, The British Nitpicking Society.

[@dcleary]

@@jonathanwebster7091 😂

[@ryanmaass5360]

We're at a unique chapter in the Cancel Culture series. It used to be a "based versus cringe," with sides occasionally switching between. Now it's just "cringe versus cringe." Let them fight.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

🎯

[@Djfmdotcom]

Cringe vs. Cringe sounds like an amazing band name. You're welcome.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

When was it ever based vs cringe?

[@jackthompson1544]

​@@drinkinouttacups2665When abusers like Harvey Weinstein were getting cancelled, that was pretty based.

[@timewave02012]

@@drinkinouttacups2665 when people were allowed to not be cringe

[@NGU7754]

I'm an atheist and I cringe so hard at this type of shit, especially when is done by grown-ass people and not some edgy 13 year old.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yeah, that's just sad unfortunately.

[@lightningmonky7674]

Nah christians need to hear it

[@Chill-mm4pn]

There's a certain way to actually address a concern in regards to Christianity but that is not the way to do it. A person can be respectful while disagreeing with another person's beliefs.

[@NGU7754]

@@lightningmonky7674 Need hear what? "Jesus bad?" It's fair to criticize religion, but that's not it.

[@BrandonHeat243]

Same here. It's just so try hard edgy. That said, I don't get the outrage either. Who takes what rockstars say so seriously?

[@yahwehwarrior]

Why are we so surprised when a non-Christian band says something non-Christian?

[@aliasfakename2267]

And why do we care?

[@trencehumphries645]

This is what makes me think it's all marketing bs. The fake outrage for a band that's been like this for 20 years doesn't make any sense

[@TheOtherCaleb]

Is it really normal non-Christian behavior to declare that you want to kill Jesus… twice? If so, that is news to me.

[@LilPinkOF]

I'm not shocked just surprised 😯 that they didn't realize that actual fact they are not religious. 😅 Crazy. I believe in a higher power but I still love bring me the horizon religion doesn't change the fact I like the music and the message behind what it represents. Lol. This is wild.

[@mxwx51]

Exactly! This has always been the case.

[@perfectparadox7389]

These people really heard ‘house of wolves’ and wondered “huh I wonder who thats for”

[@Aircooledcorey]

I don’t understand how this surprised anyone at all. They’ve been very open about antichristianity in there lyrics for years.

[@nicolai3023]

Its in the same album as "Crooked Young" so thats odd.

[@KolaTheBear]

"The faceless won't save you The clouds won't hear your fucking prayers" "Hallelujah, I'm saved It's a miracle, thank you, Jesus Hallelujah, I'm saved Fuck your faith, fuck your faith" "It makes no sense but it must be right The blood and sweat you sacrificed Was it all for nothing? 'Cause we've found no sign and we've seen no light We hear no voice when we pray at night But we swore and now it's too late to turn back"

[@Szczauqa]

​@@KolaTheBearnow that's some split personality stuff

[@derekrose3328]

🤝

[@timb6558]

I'm a pastor. Christians get really upset about this stuff, and I get it. But the most offensive thing that could ever happen to Christ happened 2k years ago. He was beat to death and hung up to die. And He turned that around for good. So I'm not too worried about BMTH tweeting something worse than what the Bible itself proclaims. You can't do it. The worst already came and went. Or as Jesus says: "It's finished."

[@richieart4133]

Well said

[@Jul-wt5kd]

Well said

[@need4speed5353]

Well said

[@mandalovescatspandas1781]

What's funny is thinking that any of us mortals can even touch the King when he comes back. He's coming back down through the clouds 😅

[@MosquitoDoidoMaluco]

Well said, you are totally right thank you :')

[@PhreakPhantom]

Let's be honest here: that's an easy target to try and be edgy. Would they say the same of muhammad? lol

[@rejectscorner9939]

No NOONE would. I like BMTH but like cmon. This anti Christian shit is soooo…. 30 years ago. Lmao they should be anti-Jewish or anti-Islam xD you have to evolve with the Edgy!

[@vin_fm2354]

no because they haven’t experienced it personally

[@prod5head]

Nope. Artists will never go in that territory because of the Charlie Hebdo shooting

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yeah, no one would dare do that ever...

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

​@@rejectscorner9939Nah, why be any of that... The Christians are an easy soft crowd to pick off of because they do nothing so why not keep at it 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️

[@about7grams]

You have no idea the surge of energy that flows through my body when I hear "HERES THE THING"

[@JoshuaMRichard]

You know he's about to drop some bars 😂

[@BerlinKlub-SAV187]

every time

[@untitled568]

Im Christian and I found it cringe, not offensive.. I mean they are no black metal band, this is just trying hard to be edgy... By the way, the "Christian" reaction is just as, if not more cringe

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

How is it cringe to publicly stand for something? BMTH stood against Jesus; Christian fans stood for Him. What’s the difference?

[@Nestorglass]

​@@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat both are extremely cringe

[@robdurfee6861]

Apparently to these idiots standing for what you believe in is cringe. That word is overused anyway

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

@@Nestorglass How is it cringe to disagree?

[@perlundgren7797]

​@@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat​ It's not, in itself. It's more about doing so in a way that to some people might sound more like a teenager desperately wanting to tell the world how edgy and badass they are.

[@11conormcloughlin]

What I don’t like about this is why is it that you can only pick on christians but as soon as you criticize other groups and religions the media will absolutely destroy you. The double standard really pisses me off. I’m non-religious btw.

[@Drygores1337]

Well you're probably gonna call me anti-semite and stuff but, just do a google search and type, What does the talmud say about Jesus then you'll pretty much get your answer. Also look which group of people own most of medias and corpos.

[@cefizl]

BMTH - Dear Diary 2020: "God is a shithead"

[@vallie3219]

Yeah people that whine about this know practically nothing about their music. Its funny to me

[@modthesol]

"fuck your faith"

[@cefizl]

@@modthesol i always sing that as "fuck your face" 🙈

[@WillyWil08]

me too 😭 ​@@cefizl

[@JadenEthansmom]

When Christians have really bad days, they say this too. Just probably not aloud lol

[@xdimitrije]

They are just trying to be EDGY. It's not offensive it's just cringe. You're almost 40 going: "Christ is weak man haha". It's not funny it's not original it's just lame

[@michaelabbeyproductions3858]

Nailed it

[@NGU7754]

Yeah, I'm an atheist and I cringe so hard at this type of shit, especially when is done by grown-ass people and not some edgy 13 year old.

[@MrRandomguyTom]

Yeah, 40 yo dudes with 9 yo sense of humor

[@Vivi_9]

Well religion is still around so it needs to be mocked until it goes away

[@davidprice6002]

Well, if I had read down you would have saved me some typing. Right on

[@OneAwfulGamer]

They became fans when Bring Me Horizon went Pop Metal. They don't listen to other metal.

[@_nuclearnoodle_5757]

Even That’s The Spirit has a song called “Blasphemy”

[@santiagosvideosstuffV2]

​@@_nuclearnoodle_5757 Including that Sempiternal has "The House of Wolves"

[@SpyroYes]

Firstly, in a Liberal society (liberal in the enlightenment values sense) no religion (or any ideology/belief system for that matter) should be exempt from criticism or satire. However, in 2024 making fun of Christianity in the Western world seems a very soft target. From the days of John Lennon declaring the Beatles to be ‘bigger than Jesus’, though the early heavy metal bands, to the 2010s Soundclap rap era of flirting with demonic imagery, even to Doja Cat’s ‘Paint The Town Red’ video, it’s pretty played out to the point of being cringe and the opposite of shocking these days. If you really want to be edgy, mock Islam. See how that goes. Just ask Salman Rushdie.

[@MegaNancyLover]

Bingo. Hell, even saying something considered "based" is more daring these days than mocking Christianity I'd argue.

[@ggr9745]

I'm a Christian and I can't image mustering up the energy to care. Why should it matter to me if the musicians I listen to have the same views as I do? I really don't care. They can say whatever they want. I do find it to be try-hard edgy, but it's also very on brand for them and shouldn't be shocking to anyone who's followed them for a decent amount of time.

[@asdfjkl981]

Exactly that. Who cares.

[@AceWav]

first off, I am a huge LP fan and noticed your profile pic. Secondly, as a Christian i need to tell you (and don't take this as judgement) but if you're really a Christian, it's wise to look into spiritual warfare and please don't overlook this. It will give you some clarity on what music you should and shouldn't listen to. I recommend this in the most brotherly, friendly and loving way possible. please look into it. You might then will rethink who you let into your ear gates and eye gates. Not all bands are bad, like LP don't really talk about demonic crap or blaspheme God, plus some of those members are religious themselves. It's not about genre either, as you know there's all forms of Christian genres even. But to listen to a band like this, is very contradicting to what God calls you to take part in. You should really be offended if you a Christian right now about what this band said. To say you have no energy to care is really ignorance and hypocritical and you need to read your bible.

[@ggr9745]

@AceWav I get that you're trying to be helpful but I think you and I will never agree on this. I think that as a Christian and a mature adult with firm morals and standards I can listen to genuinely anything and not have it affect me. I'm a musician first, so when I find a song I like, I'm listening for chord progressions, riffs, drum fills, basslines, harmonies, melodies, etc. I don't really care about the lyrics that much. If they're good that's a plus but I'm always focused on composition and I'm not gonna let trashy lyrics keep me from taking inspiration and enjoyment from great songs. That being said there are definitely songs where the lyrics are so bad I just don't listen to them. But that's not for religious reasons. It's because I personally find them stupid. I think God understands that I just listen to music for the sake of musicality and doesn't really care as long as I don't believe or practice what the songs are saying. At least that's how I see it. If I stopped listening to songs because I disagreed with the band members personal beliefs I'd have to listen to almost nothing. I let God judge the musicians for what they say and do. I just listen for my love of music

[@azimuth011]

I'm a Catholic by faith and still love BMTH. I don't hold it against them that they don't have the same beliefs as I do. Music is great and I just prefer not to say some of their lyrics out loud lol

[@asdfjkl981]

@@AceWav your take on art is the equivalent to my 4 year old daughter plugging her fingers into her ears and shouting "lalalala i can´t hear you lalalala!" when i say something to her she does not want to hear. My brotherly friendly and loving advice to you is: grow up. don´t take everything so serious. jesus was a very understanding playful guy as long as nobody sold crap or scammed people in a temple Actions are what counts. Not words.

[@Tev_the_Presbyguysomething]

BMTH made cringe atheist lyrics? In other words, grass is green.

[@me-ou3hs]

Yea it’s literally nothing new, they’ve been doing it for years

[@tripezius1]

This video is not about song lyrics. Superb analysis though. Well done.

[@aestheticbeatz5700]

They're agnostic actually. Sykes has said before that the idea of a creator isn't crazy. He did a spoken word where he lit a candle, and talked about that on one of their EPs.

[@Lord_Marquaad]

​@@aestheticbeatz5700 there's barely any gnostic atheist

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

My grass is actually yellow. Checkmate, atheist.

[@brianblankenship1568]

BMTH dropping hot tweets at 2am like they’re Roseanne full of ambien

[@luke_cohen1]

2 AM UK time or 2 AM in an American time zone because that does make a drastic difference on the context. 2 AM in California is 10 AM in the UK.

[@CaXreLL]

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[@Scuba4Steve]

Lmao

[@amd1273]

Lol

[@spfadden082711]

😂

[@liljam92]

I’m Christian but I love bring me the horizon I mean I dont listen to every song they put out but I do listen to most of there songs

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

Christian here. I’m not familiar with them. Should the average Christian fan have known that Ollie or the band felt this way about Jesus?

[@toga4900]

@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat yes. They have anti Christian lyrics on their 3rd album from 2010 lol

[@drummerconz682]

Based

[@Caleb--6633]

Me too

[@studlyjock616700]

Same. Separate the art from the artist

[@brkmfk3200]

I get that they're trying to be edgy to appeal to all the 16 year old Emo Girls but srsly tell me one bad thing about jesus 😂 i'm not even religious and i dont get it, isnt he literally the nicest person ever? 😅

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

Yes. It’s the equivalent of hating Mr Rogers. He promotes selflessness, agape love & faith in God & people STILL won’t get on board. 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@KingKrouch]

Satan's Guide to the Bible was interesting. So Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet, and there's a load of inconsistencies with the Bible.

[@Rileyy1057]

Bro he invented hell.

[@brkmfk3200]

@@Rileyy1057 absolute alpha male move in my book :D

[@burritocat23]

​@@KingKrouchif you're taking Satan's guide to the Bible seriously, I'm concerned for you. That video takes so many verses out of context and uses so many straw man arguments against Christianity.

[@petemcardlejr1594]

Satanic Panic 2- Electric Boogaloo

[@sq1785]

Well to be honest, Christianity is coming back in fashion hard these days with the world going to clownish hell all of a sudden. It weirdly looks like the new counter-culture to the state funded irrationalities they push down our throats and we have to agree else we are ostracized in a myriad of manners.

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

At first I was wondering what Impending Doom had to do with any of this, but then I realized it was just a meme.

[@aray493]

It's just cringe. Sounds like something written on the cover of a dirty notebook by the kid that pushed pencil lead through his skin in the back of the class

[@kylmiii]

thats apart of the charm. its edgy and cringey like an insecure 14yo wrote it and i fw it heavy🫶

[@aray493]

@kylmiii it would have charm if they did it in 2006, they're almost 40 now it's mad cringe

[@em0tionalpavu1on]

@@aray493 truly

[@nevermindmyparentsimthepunk]

​@@aray493 i still hear adults older than me in the metal scene and goth scene making these jokes and writing music that says stuff like this

[@AustinD1993]

😂😂😂😂 "She's not a CHRISTIANNNN!!!?!!" that clip just made me laugh so hard I spit my coffee ☕

[@TheDirtyKenzo]

😂😂😂😂💯 2:47

[@brentr926]

Seeing that live on TV was insane. “I AM A GOD WARRIOR!!!” lol.

[@carmendotnet6805]

It's historic. 😂😂😂

[@jasonhawkins6888]

Worthy of cancellation? no. Worthy of a eye-roll and deep sigh? yup.

[@DJCHRISTV90]

Idol worshipper

[@DigitalBath306]

religious people dont like their religion to be mocked why is that so hard to understand lol

[@bamafencer12]

Why don’t they say the same about Orthodox Jews and Muslims? I’ll wait…

[@DigitalBath306]

@@bamafencer12 yeah that whole "christians are bad duh" stick is cringe and played out

[@bigsmooshflopdong33]

​@@DigitalBath306 It is played out, but also wildly true. Do better.

[@tristanlady]

@@bamafencer12lmao they do people get canceled all the time for anti semenistic comments all the time but not one ever gets the same treatment for shitting on Christianity cancel cultures just cancels the people they want to

[@veganbodybuildingperu4244]

And? Learn to take jokes or insults or whatever, nothing will happen to you, Ill promise 😂😂

[@AlwaysAudacity]

I'm a Christian that has BMTH songs in my playlist and I wholeheartedly agree with them. If Jesus came back to earth, people would definitely try to kill him again.

[@lippi2171]

That's what I thought too lol, with this sentence they basically encapsulated the Antichrist's opinion about Jesus's return, despite being cringy and disrespectful, it's an authentic satanic sentence

[@brandondavis7617]

Completely off topic but finn if you are done with KZbin after this year.i found you in 2020 when I was locked down in quarantine and funny enough it was a video about bring me the horizon since then ive watched every video you've done i appreciate you bro and everything you've done. HELL YEAH BROTHER

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@brandondavis7617]

​@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Your Welcome man!!! Keep being you!!! Fuck the haters

[@NoxMonstrum]

Looks like nobody listened to "Amen" hahaha.

[@colewoolley7253]

You have no idea the joy I felt when Finn said “here’s the thing” and I immediately joined in, only to have Andy bark it back in my face. Elated

[@zora4527]

Literally the entirety of the new BMTH era is literally based on cult themes. Like. Do you not listen to the music??? Or watch the music videos??? Or even see the fucking live shows??? I swear media literacy is dead.

[@fatefatefate]

*Occult

[@zora4527]

This is like when people got mad at Green Day for the new years thing. Like WHAT DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE. It is literally right in front of you plain as day. But no one can actually read between the lines for some reason.

[@KingKrouch]

Media literacy is dead because most people circlejerking about it are using it as a front to be offended or to come up with bullshit headcanon takes. But yeah this is a valid statement for once.

[@kthulhukif]

I'm not certain I understand what you mean... tons of people listen to music without knowing the names of everyone in the band, in fact I bet you've listened to a few songs where you didn't do a deep dive on them. If you're arguing that we should know everything about what we consume, I suppose I could agree, but it realistically won't ever happen 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MW-dd8vk]

It’s the same thing with Rage Against The Machine, they’ve always been leftists from the beginning and yet people say they “rage for the machine.”

[@yeagerzombie]

The ironic part is Christians are not supposed to be offended on behalf of Christ. I'm saying this as a Christian. I was in a christian band for 5 years, and we had people shout things like "hail satan" during our sets all the time and we just brushed it off. Either way Jesus is Lord.

[@devinwendell9110]

Amen

[@juicytoad6128]

Hey man. People will always hate the truth and that's why everyone picks on Christianity, and most christians will just let it happen, but what would Jesus have done? He called the Pharisees wolves and causes chaos in the temple because the Jews were kinda buying their forgiveness. He was protecting His flock from the wolves, so don't you think we are supposed to defend the God that sacrificed himself to bridge the gap between us and Himself? I'm not saying that we should be canceling bands or anyone, but just defend what we know to be true because that is what Jesus would really want.

[@TahoeNevada]

I was on the front lines of the Satanic Panic in the 80's, being accused of devil worship for DMing D&D games with my friends in a small, conservative town in NorCal. I was a real life Eddie Munson.

[@peterdalmationcro4217]

Yeah, I get ya mate. I specifically remember a murder case in a quiet conservative town. They were accusing a man of being a satanist & killing his family in a house fire. He had an Iron Maiden poster in his room, & that’s what tied him to satanism, NO JOKE.

[@Proc502]

People only do this with Christianity. It’s like picking on the kid that you know won’t hit you back. It’s not brave or empowering.

[@brittanyroyal6257]

I hope this comment is ironic.

[@wongwaras356]

Ah shit here we go again. do you know that people keep burning Quran and making Muhammad caricature/meme to mock him. Just because people don't make songs about other religions, doesn't mean they dont pick on other religions.

[@wongwaras356]

And by cancelling BMTH, aren't Christians basically hitting them back?

[@guardianexo2624]

It’s ok to mock people who hate gay people. It’s not like they don’t deserve it cause they definitely do.

[@MrDrPandaheart]

The lady said she knows they’ve always been this way but never blatantly, Apparently, she never listened to sempiternal 4:14😂

[@Mr_jz_12]

or seen any of their live shows. lol

[@stevenhopson422]

Or house of wolves or the comedown 😂

[@neolbioldey]

​@josephl6727? Count Your Blessings? I can't think of a single song on that record that could be called blasphemous

[@neolbioldey]

​@@stevenhopson422uhhh isn't House of Wolves from Sempiternal?

[@mommyjeans9483]

The Christians got into metal in the 2000s with bands like The Devil Wears Prada, August Burns Red and Underoath. And then they would listen to other metal bands and pay zero attention to the lyrical content.

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

Christians like myself got into metal in the 80's with bands like Mortification.

[@chandlerrutherford1061]

I’m a Christian, and I don’t really care. Everyone has their own beliefs and the freedom of speech. So idk why it pisses everyone off. Their day will come. But these days it’s ok to taunt god and cool to love satan so I’m really not surprised.

[@tomparker8282]

The funniest thing abt it which you didn't mention is that they have lyrics and entire songs that are blatantly anti-christian since the beginning. How were these people ever fans in the first place??

[@BlueBeetle1939]

They aren't. So much of the internet is people complaining about things they never actually cared about. From comic books to anti christian metal songs everyone wants to gatekeep everything now

[@Arzharkhel]

You're right. These people don't pay attention to their lyrics. It's been literally that way since the beginning. From the lyrics, album titles, to the symbolism the use.

[@martianxmartin9959]

I think its just a case of adults acting like edgy teens. I mean, this is pretty tame compared to the satanic imagery that some pop artists do.

[@TheCivildecay]

What pop artist uses satanic imaginary?

[@real30yearoldboomerhours53]

As a Christian, I find today’s pop music faaarrrrrr more evil than any metal band out there.

[@brushot]

@@TheCivildecayLil Nas X, Doja Cat, etc…

[@Dram1984]

Do the Quran or Talmud next. I’ll wait.

[@amnm920]

Might result in death threats or jihad or something. Who knows.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

[@brandencrago7164]

the talmud you do know jesus was jewish right ? born to a jewish mother an also read the talmud allthe time

[@dylanromansky7228]

​@@brandencrago7164it's almost like Christianity itself stems from Jewish tradition yet they're different religions and religious groups 🤯

[@southerntrendkill4889]

Bashing the talmud would cost them their record deal. They would be blacklisted, and their bank accounts would be frozen

[@ronwilliams1094]

A mocker searches for wisdom and gets none, but knowledge comes quickly to the intelligent. - Proverbs 14:6

[@brandontadday6288]

It’s amazing that this poster caused so much backlash with some Christian fans when BMTH have songs like ‘Empire (Let Them Sing)’, ‘The House of Wolves’ and ‘Crooked Young’ dating all the way back to Sempiternal. The post is cringe, but so is the backlash.

[@Lifeneverlost]

I guess the people offended haven’t checked out a some of their old lyrics

[@codywoodlee_]

I’m a pastor, I love metal, blinding faith is a top song of the year so far for me and I’m not gonna stop listening to BMTH. Would love to chat with you Finn and bring metal loving pastors perspective. Big love 🤟

[@justified_edc]

People shouldn’t be surprised that a metal band is doing something anti-Christian but the BMTH statement is also just kinda cringe lol

[@MK7-MephistoKevin777]

Finn, you need to do more videos like this, pointing out the weird behavior of fans and genres, Your knowledge of music history could be used even further with this concept ''Why this group of people hates this group'' or ''Why fans of this band hate that band'' or just more on bands influences etc, you've done some vids on this before, and would be cool to see more like that.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Yep i did a 14 part series on that topic! Covered over 40 bands in it

[@NuMetalfan1996]

Occultist imagery in Rock music goes all the way back to the mid 1960’s. Bands like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and later Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath all had members that were interested in the Occult. On The Beatles Sgt Pepper album you can see a picture of Occultist Aleister Crowley on the far left top corner on the album. The Rolling Stones did Occultist songs like Sympathy For The Devil and Paint It Black. Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin even bought Aleister Crowley’s former house in Scotland. In PoP music, Madonna is and has always been one of the biggest users of Occultist imagery in her stuff. She did a music video in the 80’s with burning crosses. Occultist imagery is in almost every fabric of PoP culture. Occultist imagery is far far from anything new, as Occultists use practices and images that date all the way back to Ancient Civilisations of Rome, Greece, Persia (we call it Iran today) Egypt, Assyria (we call it Syria today), and Babylon (we call it Iraq today) We get this modern Satanist and Occultist stuff from people like Albert Pike Manly P Hall Aleister Crowley Helena Blavatsky Alice Bailey Anton LeVay There are actual people that do believe in a literal Satan and practice Witchcraft out there, if you think this is all just fun and games, well I’m sorry to tell you but you need to do some digging, because the more you look the more truth you find. If you want to look this stuff up for yourselves, look into Alice Bailey, she helped start the New Age Spirituality movement, which is Witchcraft and Occultism in disguise. Alice Bailey also put out a 10 step plan to weaken Christianity in the West. So you think this is all fun and games, until you understand it’s origins. .

[@aestheticbeatz5700]

Melonie is a little extreme. Christians are supposed to love thy neighbor etc. with that said I REALLY don't think she's a bad person. Those jokes on her Twitter were just edgy. That's how we talked in the 2000s...even if you were a gay dude we ALL said F*ggot. Turns out I'm not exactly str8. I just feel like I have to defend her. I've been supporting her up until this point. Also that is SUPERR cringe of BMTH to say that. Whether you are religious, or not. Blasphemy is cringe as it gets. It's not cool anymore, or funny. With that said I can't really say anything bad about BMTH either. I guess I respect Melonie, and I respect BMTH as well. Maybe that's what coexistence is about...Like John Locke said "forcing one religion on everyone will cause more disorder than having multiple religions." Well these days Atheism is similar to a religion. It applies both ways. Forcing radical Evangelical isn't just, and forcing Atheism isn't either. We have the first amendment for a reason. These are Agnostic people, and Christians butting heads, and that's natural in a pluralist society. I'd rather see that than a theocratic state, or a forced secular state etc. WE CAN COEXIST! WE CAN. WE ALWAYS HAVE. I'm letting both of them off the hook. I support the right of religious expression, and free speech. That's the way it was intended for America. (I know BMTH are British but so was the philosopher we plagiarized to get the First Amendment, John Locke as sited previously.)

[@koolklem7889]

Ahhh, the "Here's the thing !!!" is back... 😌

[@blaydestone264]

It is absolutely insane to me how everyone here knows very little or even nothing about what these songs mean. Ignorance is bliss. BMTH will never be "canceled". They're incredible artists with a lot of deep truths to share that most aren't ready for.

[@triplesixmafia]

"i thought we were past this" i thought the *exact* same thing but then just the other day i saw an ad promoting some designs with inverted cross n ramskulls as pendants. i thought they looked cool but the comments *were utterly filled* with relatively young people saying "im so upset about the upside down crosses :(((("... it's so crazy tht people like this are still around considering there are literal _mainstream rappers now_ who use satanic imagery like playboi carti & lil uzi vert. they have MILLIONS of fans. _even three 6 mafia was doing this in rap in the 90s_ it absolutely blows my mind this is still a controversial thing. like dude satanism & antireligion is just so mild to me

[@juicytoad6128]

Honestly, I've been listening to BMTH for a long time and have known they are atheist and stuff, but when they attack what I live for, it really just hurts. It's almost like they are saying f you for being a Christian even though I have never thought or said anything bad about them. I respect them for what they believe, but just don't attack what I and a lot of people live for. The majority of Christians can be very hypocritical and judgy, which is super wrong, so I get it, but please know that there are some Christians that won't attack. To the Christians that believe in canceling the band; just stop. Instead of attacking the band, try explaining why this isn't right and let them be them. The truth from the Bible is what we are to sow in others.

[@mixedcompany3225]

So it’s cringe when BMTH does it, but it’s not cringe when Christians do it? I’m so fucking confused these days

[@bc7013]

I can imagine any religious person being upset over someone saying they would and or will kill their savior. Regardless of what you think about said religion, it is a bit shitty and totally avoidable.

[@Isdezenaambezet]

Why? People are under absolutely no obligation to respect your religion. You, certainly, your religion, not so much.

[@Lordofthereee_]

​@@Isdezenaambezet No one is under any obligation to respect you

[@me-ou3hs]

@@Isdezenaambezetyes I agree but as a Christian, if I were to say i dont respect satanists or atheists id get a lot of flak for it, its a double standard, if its fine to crap on Christians then its fine for me to crap on atheists, at the end of the day these types of statements are unnecessary and in very poor taste regardless of beliefs

[@jovanreid6782]

There's nothing inherently sacred about moral codes or religion.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

@@jovanreid6782 black

[@circafan7142]

Just a bunch of people outing the fact that they listened to Bring Me The Horizon without ever paying any attention to their lyrics. They literally have a song called Blasphemy and it's exactly what you'd expect. Their lyrics couldn't be more anti-religious if they tried. I've barely listened to their music and I knew this so I can't imagine that these people were adding much to their spotify stats. Maybe they'll learn a valuable lesson from this experience though! Something about not blindly following something... maybe not.

[@brandiyount5365]

Right?? Blasphemy, Crooked Youth, House of Wolves.. Pick an album, they've got some blatant anti -christian songs/lyrics in it somewhere. It's fucking BMTH lmao. Is it edge lordy? For sure. Should we be used to that by now? Also for sure. I don't understand the confusion lmfao.

[@bamafencer12]

But one can listen to music without being deep into the lyrics. It’s art and when you put your art out there people from all backgrounds will have a different perspective on it.

[@dr.derpasaurusrex4223]

Thanks for putting the clip for the hears the thing I guy back in

[@ricksreviews650]

Crooked Young had a pretty similar chorus from what I remember too. Not worded the same but close

[@jakexero]

In terms of people taking shots at christianity and not other religions. I can only speak from my perspective as being from ireland. I grew up with countless stories of the oppressive regime of the church. From nuns running concentration camps made up of women who happened to get pregnant out of wedlock, to pedo priests. Most people here went to catholic schools. I have memories of gay friends being told by teachers that there is something wrong with them. We had that shit forced on us five days a week, only to be told every sunday that we were going to hell. So when i take the piss out of christianity i do it from a place of personal experience. I could take shots at other religions, but i wouldnt have the same nuanced view of them that someone who grew up within the religion would. Bmth come from england so they were born into christianity. Why would they spend time taking shots at a religion they probably have no experience with, or that hasnt affected their lives in the slightest?

[@Authorrlee]

SAY 👏🏽 IT 👏🏽 LOUDER 👏🏽

[@squidsquirthd2684]

I just think it’s odd that this is happening to BMTH of all bands. Like they’ve had a shirt that says “fuck your faith” in big ass font on the front. Like 90% of their biggest album is Oli talking about how much he hates religion

[@nocaptainmatt3771]

Isn't it interesting though they always can say this about Christians but not about Muslims or Jewish people? Makes you think 🤔🤔🤔

[@Wailmur]

Thats because they don't want to get blown up

[@homelander7742]

They're not saying anything about CHRISTIANS. They're saying something about JESUS. And newsflash: Jesus is a holy prophet in both Judaism AND Islam. Mocking Jesus is literally blasphemy in the religion of Islam.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Jews and Muslims aren’t going to blow you up if you blaspheme Christ. He’s a prophet in Islam, and not considered God. Jews do not believe He was the messiah.

[@brandencrago7164]

@@dancegregorydance6933some jews believe jesus was the messiah not all but some most jews just view jesus as a human being a jewish man born to a jewish mother not a god not the son of god

[@dannydelgado788]

this just shows that many people aren't aware of most of the bands they listen to and the content surrounding them. BMTH has always been an atheist band and a band that doesn't see religion in a good light. To me, it's like don't be mad at a band that's always been critical of religion whenever they decide to say something edgy about it.

[@lauraburleson3595]

I’m a 50 year old Catholic woman and thought it was funny. Love BMTH and Finn🤘🏻

[@metalheadjake3339]

0:13 Finn just described the crazy individuals who hate on his wife and demand Finn to leave her instead of minding their own business, getting their own life and not care about what strangers they will never meet say over the Internet. 😂😂🤦‍♂️

[@undriftedpop788]

As a Christian.. I don’t care. I love the music, maybe sometimes I disagree with the messages but only true Christian’s are accepting of everyone.. everyone includes people who don’t agree with our religion. There isn’t many real Christian’s anymore, real Christian wouldn’t care if your, trans, gay, atheist, or anything else. To be a Christian means to love all and accept all.

[@_nuclearnoodle_5757]

I can get behind this

[@HansyPants184]

It's so shitty that so many use religion as a curtain to hide behind to spread hate like "well this book said something that could be interpreted as anti-gay so I'm just following orders". If religion makes you happy I'm all for it but the second you start using it as an excuse to spread hate or violence you can gtfo. Great comment. Wish more of this existed in the world.

[@undriftedpop788]

@@HansyPants184 I 100% agree, I appreciate you so much 🙏

[@nobbynoris]

Well said.

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

How can that girl be a far right biblethumper and dress like a metalcore scene girl simultaneously

[@joshuaneal7552]

She's young, give her a break. She doesn't know what she's doing. Hopefully she'll grow out of the Gawd phase one day.

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

@@joshuaneal7552 I do believe in second chances, but it's not just a "Gawd phase". It's a "I hate minorities in the name of God" phase

[@thatbuckethatguyyy]

Also, I as a believer I’m not mad at this because well, God gave each and every human the free will to choose him or to reject him. And that’s because if he forced us to choose him, it wouldn’t be true love, which means those of us who actually love him because we are given the free will to say no to him.

[@thatbuckethatguyyy]

Wit that being said, Die4u, Strangers and Mother Tongue are still absolute bangers!

[@NoSleepIsland]

These lunatics didn't get the message from their lyrics so they had to spell it out for them

[@manuelmirandawtf8345]

i used to be a christian, nowadays i consider myself a deist. I don't see this as evil, just CRINGE, dude Marilyn Manson did a critical take on christianity with wits and a deeper message compared with this just cheap insult. Wanna be edgy? Make an anti left, anti abortion, anti -lgbt song or even, try to insult Buddhist and Islamic religions. Christian are the outdated punching bag of metalheads, there's a lot of newer more relevant space to make fun of

[@deansample3690]

Myself and every other metal head were making this joke since we were 15 years old. Who is shocked by this?

[@jakeosborne977]

don't believe in god but every third song is about how he doesn't exist

[@NuMetalfan1996]

The problem is the hypocrisy, people are seemingly allowed to say shit to Christians, but when it comes to Jews or Muslims, “oh you’re racist, a Nazi, or anti semite”. It’s this double standards I don’t like.

[@thisguy103]

this 100%

[@MrRandomguyTom]

Exactly

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

People won’t dare say a word about Buddhists, Muslims, etc. People say they are atheists and hate religion but it’s a lie. It’s really a deep rooted hatred for God.

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

Any religion can be harmful. People are too scared to critique them or they'll be murdered. Like islam.

[@nicoled.6668]

I m a Christian and I m a B I G fan of bring me the horizon 😊 and same friends of mine are also Christians and same of them are also fans of the band❤ Please read between the lines😊 and remember Jesus dies for ALL of us. Art has often controveral ways to express emotions, meaning, and messages. "Don't throw stones"❤

[@jamesw5713]

How stunning and brave they are......now say that about the one you cant draw pictures of.

[@christopherthomas3481]

Hi Finn - I have been thinking about that video where you were talking about being burned out. Just wanted to ask if you've ever read the book the artist's way by julia cameron. Also I think if you just started making content that makes you happy it would make the right audience happy. I want to know what is on your mind - not what you think you gotta do. And I still think the younger gens need guidance since they are obsessed w what we made cool in the late 90s and Y2K. Thanks for your work!

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you! My audience is not going to watch content about business, I wish it was that easy

[@DavidRamos-d3b]

I was not prepared for the Charlotte Sartre name drop 😹😹😹

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

👸🏻

[@michaelabbeyproductions3858]

Everything about this entire scenario is incredibly cringe. Being 40 and intentionally trying to offend people is cringe. Following a pretty well known anti-religion band and being offended by this is kinda dumb. But, honestly the cringiest parts is the edgelords in the replies mocking the people standing up for their religion by saying equally cringe things.

[@DeweyJHall1]

Exactly.

[@AndrewNiven]

Idk man. BMTH has always said some heinous shit about christianity and all that. Why has this taken people by surprise? I can see why some thinknits cringy, I can see why religious people wouldnt jive with it, but it really shouldnt have caught anyone off guard haha. The House of Wolves i think was like super anti religion. And a bunch of other songs.

[@drewtokarsky3917]

Another Christian here. No need to cancel anyone. It’s free will dude. They can say whatever they want. There was never any indication that these guys were anything but atheist. The riffs are badass though. More than anything it just makes me sad. Inner peace is awesome, and that(amongst other things) came with giving my life to a Christ. It makes me sad, bc these guys are missing out. I didnt earn any of it. It’s available to everyone. Sad these guys are opting out.

[@neolbioldey]

I'm glad that helped you feel that way, but do not generalize your experience with Christ to everyone

[@pressplaytoresume]

The only question I have is...where do I get the giant butter?

[@aliasfakename2267]

Most likely Costco

[@NikolayTodorov2702]

The world nowadays is a strange place to live in... Everybody gets offended by whatever reason. In this particular case it is really strange what got all these people into metal in the first place? Metal music has always been the rebellious genre. And in rebellious I mean against all dogmas. When you listen to metal you expect to hear things like that. That hate against a Twitter post by a metal band is utter bullsh*t. Rock on!

[@iletthedevilin828]

I know recently knocked loose pissed off Christian folks pretty recently when they put out blinding faith. I was genuinely confused when they were getting backlash

[@anthonyfedelecomedy1490]

“ Every Knee shall bow/Every tongue shall declare Jesus as Lord 🙏” -Philippians 2:10-11

[@neolbioldey]

...Jesus sure is demanding, huh? Pleasant guy, otherwise.

[@BaritonePapi]

Being atheist is whatever. But being specifically anti Christian is really cringe

[@anthonyricher]

I think it depends who's doing it. You know, Christian politics have quite a bit of sway and cause a lot of problems in the deep south so if they were from there, anti-christian sentiment makes a ton of sense. In the case of english folks doing it, probably a little less apt for the time and place they occupy. For them they should probably be more broadly anti-faith but it's really not up to me to decide who or what people should love or hate.

[@jonathanwebster7091]

​@@toga4900well; not really. Black Sabbath weren't exactly anti-christian particularly. The message in their lyrics was/is more "Holy shit it's satan/occult stuff, don't mess around with stuff like that" (think the title track from their debut album) and not "religion is bad"/"hail satan". (Hell they even expressed that on their last album with "God Is Dead?"-definitely not anti-religion, or at least, it's not anti-theism) The former lyrical message came into metal with Motörhead (Lemmy always having lyrics that were vaguely anti-religion), the latter didn't become a thing until Venom, who were pretty much the first band to go "well actually, we think we'll sing about Satan, seriously or not, and and say it's a good thing."

[@jonathanwebster7091]

@@anthonyricher eh, being religious in the UK is far less common than in some other countries, especially the US, but while atheists and agnostics are very common here, and society is far more secularised than for example in the US, going on and on about it (or any belief for that matter) and making it your entire personality is broadly considered to be more than a bit suspect. That extends to things like politics as well as religion: the general attitude is "oh, you believe this thing? That's great, just stop going on about it." Which is probably why people like Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins have been much, much more popular in the US than they have here, despite being British (here, they're considered a bit of a joke, especially Dawkins). So while saying something that is atheistic/critical of religion isn't remotely shocking here, being specifically anti-religion is considered a bit cringe. More for reasons of "we don't do extremes of belief here" than what the actual belief is.

[@jonathanwebster7091]

@@anthonyricher and yes exactly. Like, I can understand Death metal bands from like Florida-or any part of the deep south- for example singing about hating Christianity, because there Christianity permeates everything and the majority of people are religious But Britain? Where less than half the population even identifies as Christian, and less than 2% of the population regularly attend any Christian place of worship? Nah, we have pretty good separation of church and state (which is ironic, because we technically legally don't have separation of church and state, our figurehead head of state is the head of that church, and we still have bishops of said church in the upper house of Parliament, even though all that is a bit of an anachronism). Nobody is being oppressed by or dominated by Christians in Britain. That also makes all those Norwegian second wave black metal bands that really, *really* hated Christianity a bit hard to understand too, because Norway is pretty similar to Britain in respect to religion (very, very secularised society, atheists and agnostics are common, yet until very recently still had no separation of church and state legally).

[@jonathanwebster7091]

@@toga4900 Christian metal bands, and metal bands with Christian members or members that believe in God exist. Shit, even Christian *black* metal exists. There are plenty of bands and even whole subgenres of metal that don't sing about religion or are anti-religion. Stoner metal for example. If I were to list individual bands that don't mention God or religion in their lyrics, I'd be here all day. Lyrics don't define a type of music, lyrics are essentially a free-for-all. The vast majority of bands that use Satanic/anti-christian imagery don't do it seriously, it's just used for shock value. Slayer, early Bathory, and Possessed weren't/aren't literally wanting to sacrifice virgins to Satan. As for it being "the most anti-christian music to come out of the last century", I'd argue punk is even more so (although again, Christian punk bands exist). This is after all, a genre that blew into the mainstream with "I am an antichrist", and has an entire subgenre (anarcho-punk) that has the whole "no god, no masters" schtick about it. Add to that the fact that punk rock and related genres have always been more acceptable to the mainstream than metal, that attitude is way more impactful (as was, I would argue, the Beatles coming out with things like 'We're Bigger Than Jesus' and the whatever 'Imagine' was supposed to be). That's way, way more impactful and influential than the metal bands that *are* anti-christian, and even more so than the even fewer number that are actual satanists. Because after all, getting 'big' in terms of the metal community isn't 'big' in mainstream terms.

[@xamountoftruth08]

Honestly, audiences do grow and change: a millennial metal head, i went through a reversion back to my Catholic faith. I still have some faves in the metal scene! I also have the wisdom to skip or not listen to certain bands or songs that truly hurt my soul. Thank you Finn for always being very open minded to us conservative Christian metal heads 😂 i promise you were out there 😅

[@templegarden3981]

I get this impression that some christians offended Oli deeply when he was young so now he tries his best to put "fuck Jesus" in every single one of his songs. Pretty cringe, but that's like every metal band.

[@JadenEthansmom]

I think that's the case with the majority of atheists. They had a bad experience with bad Christians. Sure BMTH probably thinks it's funny to mock Christians, but I wonder if they realize that we also relate to the things they sing about. We get in dark places and think God is a shithead sometimes too. Not all of us are self righteous hypocrites. We're fully aware that we're imperfect. We just believe that Jesus came to save us from ourselves.

[@TheCivildecay]

​@@JadenEthansmomnot really true, most atheist were just never raised with the idea that there was a almighty god you should worship (especially in Europe where religion is much less prevalent)

[@deaf-metal]

I think it was pushed on him a lot while he was in rehab. Just listen to Crooked Young.

[@amnm920]

Nah. Sometimes there's absolutely no religious trauma except through entertainment people subject themselves to.....

[@cheesebuger13]

Ah yes Melanie Mac the biggest pick me grifter I can think of. Also this story wants me to listen to BMTH more.

[@modthesol]

you mean a band that has multiple songs with lyrics against religion made a flyer saying something against religion??? shocking! how dare they!!!

[@codybischoff1010]

That’s not the point. The point is why are they just shitting on Christian’s? If you think Christianity is so evil say something about Muslims or other religions. Just seems like an easy way to appeal to 13 year olds

[@rodriik_dev6462]

​@@codybischoff1010Most of their songs shit on religion in general, Oli has nothing to say about islam because he didn't experience it. He's pissed off at Christianity because when he went to rehab they told him that he needed to be "saved" and stuff.

[@modthesol]

@@codybischoff1010 Oli's past left a sour taste on how he views Christianity. his experiences and dislike for the religion fuels a good bit of the songs he writes. sorry the band just reminded everyone that they hate Christianity (not Christians) again.

[@codybischoff1010]

@@modthesol okay but.. you can express your distaste for religion without trying to pander to the hot topic crowd lol it’s pretty lazy

[@codybischoff1010]

@@rodriik_dev6462 it’s all literally part of the same problem though

[@t20594]

Melonie is obnoxious I can say as a Christian who likes non cussing metal

[@WheresSeamus]

charlotte meme killed me lmao

[@mattsink]

Yeah but of course it's the typical cringey anti Jesus post but they would not make statements like that toward Islam guaranteed. Keep that same energy for the other religions. Make fun of Muslims the same way you are making fun of Christians publicly Finn, lets see it. You won't.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Um. I’m not the person you think I am lol. I made this exact point in the video.

[@BlueBeetle1939]

"So strange that he would sing about his own experience like this why not make fun of the religion that I DISLIKE instead!?"

[@homelander7742]

@@BlueBeetle1939 It's such a weird whataboutism. When Christians make fun of Atheists you never see Atheists come back with "Wow, real brave - I'd like to see you say that about Muslims!!"

[@Justlewi93]

Man Sempiternal has The House of Wolves, Antivist, and Crooked Young. Like they've been vocally antireligion for a long time.

[@Blackprojex]

I've never cringed so hard than at 4:08 how about just find a hobby instead of making videos about how you didn't agree with what some musical artist said? literally nobody cares what is or isn't on "your playlist".

[@homelander7742]

She's a culture war influencer. Her whole job is getting fake offended by stuff in popular culture and then telling other people about it.

[@HexxxDigital]

Any religious person saying a "belief" is a fact is hilarious to me.

[@starlink3525]

I couldn't care less what people say about religion. But it makes you think why its only ever Christianity. That pisses me off

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

It’s no coincidence. Lives are taken & threatened over blasphemy in other religions. People aren’t stupid & choose their blasphemy wisely. Christianity’s foundation is not violence but free will, grace and mercy through faith in Jesus.

[@erickghoul174]

Influencers like Melonie Mac have been calling for Christians to be just as zealous as Muslims when defending their religion against blasphemy. Even Andrew Tate who’s a Muslim himself, recently said that Christians have gone too soft in his opinion. I’m not religious for the record, just explaining their stance

[@ChainsawChristmas]

I'd love to see Mindshift do a video on this.

[@fubilosophy]

Brandon from Mindshift..!? That’s cool

[@tw20239]

I don't know if that's really Brandon's forte

[@Zygnus]

You hit the nail in the head regarding how the pendulum is swinging back and now being moral is counter-culture. I'm familiar with many in that scene, and that's indeed the case, even if most of it is still flying under the radar of the mainstream. Even Johnny Rotten is voting for Trump and claiming being right wing is being "punk" these days.

[@cjroberts2566]

I hate society 🤦

[@JokerCat9]

They would actually be cancelled if they attacked Allah. The media has no problem mocking Christians, despite Muslims being way more extreme.

[@stephenshekailo7526]

Says she listened to all the new singles and was enjoying them. I am like did you listen to Amen or watch the video?

[@anthonyricher]

2 things: 1- for lots of people music is just vibes, not the content. 2- reactionaries, christian or otherwise, are not known for their critical thinking skills. So probably she never noticed until it was shoved in her face and then the immediate reaction is outrage for clicks. The whole thing is dumb and being made into a thing when it really doesn't matter.

[@rejectscorner9939]

We’ve already discussed this… only virgins watch music videos and pay attention to things.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

​@@anthonyricherYep, being a normie does that to yah until you go out of boundaries doing different new things. Got a lot of friends like that but think what they listen to on basic level isn't already (non Christian) it's just silly and dumb.

[@EchoNoir-]

I think most people aren't getting that it's not like a personal attack to try and be edgy against religion or something, it's just a hard line to say. Like you could swap "Jesus Christ" with "The Devil" and it would still sound just as hard or tbh any other worldly icon but obviously Jesus's major thematic thing is coming back which I think is more of their point/focus rather than it being a fuck Christianity thing specifically.

[@ZackSeifMusic]

Tell me you're in a cult without telling me you're in a cult😂😂😂😂

[@EBMproductions1]

Or just maybe some people are actually loyal to their faith so they cut off certain things. Not all things certain, before you cry about me standing up for my faith, let these people be your opinion does not matter to them and theirs not to you. 🫡

[@Frederick0220]

I'm not even Christian but who wouldn't be offended if someone talked about killing their savior?