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[@RacesVideos]

Has bad advice ever pushed you away from learning something? Temporary or otherwise? I worry a lot about that as a content creator, the space you're in and the quality of advice that players receive when they look for it is important and I believe correlates directly to their motivation to stay and progress. Always gotta do your best to create a better and more welcoming space for everyone

[@bowtf2347]

oh absolutely! back then I used to follow the 5-6 mins rule religiously, and I would never win anymore, but because so many people were saying it was the way, I was super convinced that I was the problem and not the bad advice that I followed. didn't really push me away from the game but 100% made me less prone to learn the game on my own (thankfully those days are long gone and I'd rather just do things my way)

[@milesrhodes3232]

absolutely, im so sick of people telling me what abilities to use, and the whole ion and flamer debate. I just use whatever i feel like that day and win anyways. i feel like both paries overstate how good they are, it barely matters as long as youre having fun

[@yes3330]

I agree you should be welcoming to all, but it is on the learner to question and think for themselves. as the teacher you should just stay open minded to change and considerate to those putting in the effort to learn

[@RacesVideos]

I think players that argue about this stuff forget you can win with anything in this game in any mode, feel like it always needs to be stated at the start of these discussions. Most of time advice is centered around people who need it though, not for people who are comfortable with winning either

[@NickiRusin]

​@@RacesVideos you do need some knowledge on _how_ to win anything on any mode, though. And sometimes it's really stupid stuff, like I had a massive mental block against leaving the teleporter zone which consistently got me killed around lvl 4. Your videos opened my eyes to how silly that was, but without that, I wouldn't have even one tenth of the wins I have now

[@bowreed]

Remember that although ion surge keeps artificer out of the way of most enemies, flying monsters will pose an even bigger threat than usual. When facing a flying enemy in the sky, snapfreeze is completely ineffective, charged nano-bomb requires a direct hit to explode, and flame and plasma bolt deal comparatively low damage. Cast nano-spear is good for picking off individual flying enemies, but also costs Artificer even more crowd control.

[@Iranofideaswhilewritingthis334]

Wake up babe new copypasta just dropped

[@Bignigdrew]

The opening clip 💀

[@CuppaBro1]

I like how none of the opening statement is actually even contingent on picking ion surge vs flamethrower, let alone it actually being true in practice. Flamethrower apologia is a hell of a drug.

[@slinkyyy4603]

Good point in the opener Race, but keep in mind that although Ion Surge keeps Artificer out of the way of most enemies, flying monsters will pose an even bigger threat than usual. When facing a flying enemy in the sky, Snapfreeze is completely ineffective, Charged Nano-Bomb requires a direct hit to explode, and Flame and Plasma Bolt deal comparatively low damage. Cast Nano-Spear is good for picking off individual flying enemies, but also costs Artificer even more crowd control.

[@bowreed]

Although flame bolt has good damage early game, it's damage falls off late game to more tanky enemies. To combat this, pick up a few ignition tanks, combined with flamethrower, artificer can melt down even the tankiest of enemies.

[@flynn8166]

tbh I feel like this one is even worse than the ion surge one

[@shmillsyshmillsy6624]

The wiki is for people who play the game as intended. Drizzle mode is obviously much harder. I have seen tons of videos of you beating e8, but how many times have you beaten drizzle mode??? Exactly Mr. Streamer, know your place.

[@Looober]

Hey Race, yesterday I completed Eclipse 4 with all characters. When I started it was hard because of the enemy speed but now it's not that big of a deal aside from some enemies. Now i'm going to start Eclipse 5, love your content :D nice intro btw

[@bowreed]

Yo same I'm on eclipse 5 as well I'm on huntress rn

[@My5terical]

Good luck man, you can do it! 😁

[@CiuccioeCorraz]

Doing my eclipse climb too, I'm a few wins behind you! Just completed E4 Arti (this video was on point), going for merc

[@samepicgamer]

don't remember that although ion surge keeps artificer right next to most enemies, flying monsters will pose no threat whatsoever. When facing a flying enemy in the sky, snapfreeze is incredibly overpowered, charged nano-bomb requires a complete miss to explode, and flame and plasma bolt deal comparitavely massive damage. Cast-nano spear is awful for picking off individual flying enemies, and gives artificer massive crowd control

[@fishcati5620]

I Like The Flame Thrower Ability Because It Is Just Like My Favorite Class In The Video Game Team Fortress Two, The Pyro Class. Pyro Also Has A Flame Thrower And This Is Why They Are Similar And I Like The Class In Risk Of Rain Two And Why I Also Like The Pyro Class. The Artificer Also Has The Flame Thrower Ability Which I Like.

[@ilikefrogs4291]

3:15 seeing someone refrence paladins in a race RoR2 livestream is rocking my world

[@alaska2314]

That was my comment, and i really feel like that could be an interesting way to make flamethrower fun, but keeping it a grounded ability could be good too lol

[@TehWafflebob]

Agile, and 2x flame stacks for Flamethrower would probably be a perfect tweak upward. After all it is a flame from each hand.

[@CyanPickle]

I feel like flamethrower could be better in two ways, 1 there was a new item that could increase range and or making its proc coefficient a little higher, 2 reworking it into an ability that pushes you back away from where you aim it turning it into a movement ability with some damage capabilities, generally it would be just a neat horizontal movement option for Arti

[@lintecassidy206]

That point that its good to point out what something makes you feel but not to pull out an answer is so good dude

[@sparky3341]

I really enjoy the little "debates" you get into with chat, it makes the videos much more interesting and fun to watch! Keep up the good content :)

[@joshuajohnson7848]

Around @20:30 you were talking anout AOC (Command). There is nothing more that I love in this game than setting up Huge screen clearing proc chains (normally Gas, IGNtank, Crit with Shatterspleen and Churf. Thow in some ATGs/Plimp and Uke/Poly to change to single target for Mithrix. I did my first try if Engi today! I like the power that comes with Bungus and Stat Turrets.) Anyway, my point about Command. I love that it’s in the game for players like me. Ones who come back when the craving hits again. Thanks for the amazing content man. Keep on keepin on!

[@scorn9018]

speaking of devs to player communication, i think there's no better example than stellaris devs. Their communication to the players is simply spectacular.

[@cryamistellimek9184]

Some of the things players say that give the devs heart attacks is also fun to watch.

[@lefi_is_here]

I've found that with a lot of roguelikes the fun for me doesn't come from winning but from getting stronger from the items. When I lose a fun run it's a little disheartening, but I now get to experience getting those items and getting stronger all over.

[@darienb1127]

That's probably why I put so many hours into Isaac. That game was bullshit, but there were a lot of fun ways the items could interact, which leads to crazy shit happening. Whenever a rougelike/lite has items that just feel like static stats boosts for just don't really interact with each other, I often skip it.

[@theopinionrespecter4762]

@@darienb1127just now noticed this reply and i gotta wonder, do you pick up rock bottom no matter what point you’re at in a run on isaac?

[@darienb1127]

@@theopinionrespecter4762 Dude, I don't fucking know. I haven't played it in years

[@metalurgent]

From what I've found interacting with people in the Ror community is that most people who like ion surge will say that they like it, and if you disagree that is OK cause it's just a playstyle thing. But people who like flamethrower will argue that you are stupid and weak for taking the crutch option and not using the super high damaging gigaultimate ability that they think it is.

[@RacesVideos]

sounds like someone has visited the official ror discord

[@a_cats]

15:07 droneman on engineer, it affects the turrets which if I remember correctly also means the missiles from it get tripled if the turret has icbm even with no actual missile items Edit: just realised this doesn't work :( icbm does not affect droneman turrets

[@DeWillpower]

something to add to the "players can spot problems" conversation is that the even if an idea is wrong, it's still an idea that can create new things from it

[@RacesVideos]

very true!

[@existentialrowlet]

One of my biggest personal realisations with my enjoyment of the game was when i yried to do all artifact runs. Kept dying in it over and over before giving up since it felt like such a chore. Just stuck to the eclispe grind after since it felt actually fun and rewarding.

[@AutistiCat2406]

Remember that although Ion Surge keeps Artificer out of the way of most enemies, flying monsters will pose an even bigger threat than usual. When facing a flying enemy high in the sky, Snapfreeze is completely ineffective, Charged Nano-Bomb requires a direct hit to explode, and Flame and Plasma Bolt deal comparatively low damage. Cast Nano-Spear is good for picking off individual flying enemies, but also costs Artificer even more crowd control.

[@hambourje]

I don't understand why someone would want to remove Eclipse even if they're bad at it. Especially because that and the whole "i gave myself thousands of this item to break the game" trope are the content variants that i enjoy the most

[@dek4714]

Im new to the game, and I'm trying to beat monsoon for the first time. I've been maining merc and a huge fan of afterburner on him. It just feels fund to zoom across the map with one

[@Queen_Introvert]

I loved the opening clip and like it actually is beautiful

[@cwtcw7058]

Saw this one on stream, good stuff

[@noahboddie3482]

Aegis might be better if it slowed barrier decay, as well as having some synergy with other barrier related things. Or really anything to prevent it from losing the 5 points of barrier you gained moments after its been given

[@AutistiCat2406]

Aegis might be better if it would be removed

[@gknight6160]

we need a dead cells-style custom mode where we can pick and choose which items will appear without completely removing RnG. It would be awesome if that could include monster choice as well

[@siriusa5298]

25:20 me and my friends didn't know this for like the first 30 hours in the game and there was a couple times when we couldn't find the portal for a good 5-10mins on early stages. Once we got loader and if someone was to play her there job was to immediately go find portal. finding out about the particles made us feel so fucken dumb

[@LeetLego]

made my day when race instantly changed his view on vaulting items when chat brought up the aegis

[@Marxsoul324]

The discussion about Flamethrower is pretty interesting, and honestly the way that people suggest it should be 'fixed' also ties heavily into the talks about developer intent and gameplay experience. A lot of people say that Flamethrower should be given Agile, or allow you to float in the air while casting it, etc etc-- but does that fulfill the experience that Flamethrower is supposed to provide? I think you put it best when you said that Flamethrower doesn't give enough reward for how much it roots you down, and I agree with that. Even though a more agile Flamethrower would immediately make it more meta, there's something worthwhile about attempting to make it properly fulfill its fantasy. Thing is, then you run into a bunch of questions about how to make it actually achieve that; does it need more range? More damage? Tick-rate? Is there a stat it should scale with to make it more viable past Stage 2? How can we make this ability stronger without it trivializing early stages? (In a game where Railgunner, Loader, and Diablo Strike exist, does that actually matter?) Nailing the solution to this is what results in players who say things like 'I don't normally like (x), but I really loved using this!'-- execution is what matters most in the end. It also ties into your point about offering feedback - but not answers - pretty well. I'd rather official developers (with a better sense of balance than I have) tackle this matter than cluttering my feedback with 'solutions'. Critique is a skill in and of itself, and there's a lot to gain from structuring your feedback in a way that best represents the end goal. Looping (aha) back to the matter of Flamethrower, its more useful to say 'I don't think Flamethrower feels as punchy/impactful as it should be' than 'I think Flamethrower should do (x) or have (y)'.

[@rafaelfernandes7550]

I agree with you, different people like different aspects of the game! I wouldn't put 48h in one week if we couldn't loop, each player enjoys their gamestyle

[@Iranofideaswhilewritingthis334]

Race's just casually mocking the wiki and flamethrower users at the same time

[@crimpylion4366]

Hey Race im new to Ror and I think watching your videos has really helped with actually learning the game as it can be a bit overwhelming overall. I really like the regular mode but I’m trying to learn through eclipse, so that’s all I’ve been played and not really getting Past the 4th stage, what do you think about starting with eclipse mode?

[@blitz342]

Win at monsoon first tbh

[@a_cats]

@@blitz342 eclipse 1 is barely harder than monsoon tbf (except for on engineer)

[@crimpylion4366]

lol I Play engi @@a_cats

[@darienb1127]

One the topic of peoole not knowing what they are talking about, One of the biggest examples of that os Killer Instinct. There was a character who had the ability to heal, and everyone kept complaining about it. Instead of changing the healing, the devs went back and found that they character was just... good at any range. They fixed that and people stopped complaining about the character. Instead of just doing whatever the players told them to, they looked into the heart of the issue and fixed that. On top of that, I really feel that the best advice you can get from someone is from someone who is doing the same thing as you. For artists, they ask other artists for advice on how to improve for fix issues. So why should a game dev ask someone who has no idea how to make a video game on how to fix their game? Players are great at recognizing problems... not so much fixing them.

[@fugolol]

flamethrower = fun while ion surge = movement just do whatever one you want, as long you are using ice spear it doesnt matter

[@itioticginger9520]

You said that any run is winnable which I agree, but I don't think that me losing is necessarily my fault. My only example I can think of is that I had a bandit run that made it all the way to the moon, when I did not get hardly any damage or movement items throughout the run. For movement I had a a whip and a hoof, and I don't remember what the damaging items were but they weren't good. Once at the moon I couldn't get out of the starting tunnel, the enemies just pushed me back and I slowly got hit here and there until I died. I don't think it was my fault that I lost that run, I think in hindsight and if I played the same seed again a few times I could have made different decisions to win, but I don't think I am at fault for losing there, I just got screwed.

[@Kindredflame0224]

On the artifact of command, I personally link it somewhat to COD Zombies oddly enough. If you wanna just play a sandbox version of the PvE game you love, there’s options for how you do it. Don’t wanna do a Easter egg? Okay, play Town or Nuketown or something. But if you wanna really earn that end goal, that Easter egg, that Mastery Skin? That’s your choice, and you play the same map (for example for town, the “main” map is Transit) just without that sandbox feature where it relies more on your skill than your choices. Idk just a thought.

[@mauzilus]

The wiki problem actually made me quit the game for a good while, I tried to rush the game to stay only 5 minutes in every stage and also forced myself to use flamethrower even though I did not enjoy it, even when I eventually started using surge (my beloved), I couldn't win, so I assumed I just was not getting it, the game was not for me. Saw your vid where you stayed stage one for like half an hour and it made me try the game again, and now I finished E1 on my artificer. :)

[@RacesVideos]

super proud of you! keep it up!

[@itkenz5615]

All rise for the risk of rain national anthem: Misinformed Wiki Posts

[@conor9966]

Intended playtime is a hard one. I think i have between 100 and 150 hours and im in no danger of beating monsoon on all characters. Im only competent on half the cast and still have the DLC to get

[@yourpal4l]

That quote has been living rent free since 2020, hasn't it Race?... good to know im not the only one that felt it though LOL

[@RacesVideos]

i was specifically replying to someone who posted it in chat during stream but yeah it is pretty funny lol

[@E-nfileexe]

I would love to see what abilities you use from the Artificer Extended mod That adds a ton of different abilities to Artificer So you couuld have a full Ice load out or full fire or full electricity. its awesome

[@Erksah02]

I'd say for me and my friend (monsoon and low eclipse) the game got very "easy" at around 300/350hrs. I started looking into mods. I'd say after that you are open to delve into eclipse madness or do randomized loadouts or whatever

[@Ioaska]

The bill hader quote

[@justlolit]

I couldnt complete a single ecpilce run on artificer. Then i unlocked the new ult. It is night and day on how good that ability is for artificer.

[@Mimikium778]

im still not very good at this game but ive never believed that ion surge is bad. tangent, my favorite arty loadout is probably shock m1 and special, and ice m2, it feels like it synergizes with the most of the common build staples the best and locking down mithrix for over 10 seconds at a time is very pleasent given that i suck at mithrix.

[@spacewizardpip1111]

On the Artifact of Command, my buddies only wanna play with it and what always just makes me face palm hard as hell is one buddy of mine just doesn’t build damage items at all. ON COMMAND lmao

[@a_cats]

assert your dominance by building a giga powerful AoE + proc build, your friend will notice they're doing something wrong because every enemy will die to you instantly and they'll never get to kill anything

[@Sirbluedog]

The only time aegis has ever worked for me was with huntress and flurry and harvester scythes

[@ThePizzabrothersGaming]

I remember aegis being pretty alright back in the day.. did they gut the stats or is it just cause we transitioned away from 'healing = OP' mindset

[@anartoast]

if the flamethrower gave you momentum, iron man like, had more range and less cd it would be a really good sidegrade

[@esse8407]

Hey Race! I love watching your videos, they're always entertaining and with every video i learn more about video. I want to ask you 2 questions First, why do you hate predatory instincts so much? I see you scrapping those even when playing commando and captain and even if you have only 1 stack. Second, why do you play with fast scrapping mod? i saw you hating this mod before cause it's cheating, what changed?

[@RacesVideos]

Don't hate pred but most every time I'd rather have a red item instead so I scrap it for soup. Same reason I'd scrap a syringe, I don't care about the crit side of it too much. I had a mod made to add time to my timer top right so every scrap/print adds the same amount of scaling. Basically after 4500 hours I thought about all the real life time in my life I've wasted to waiting for a scrapper. I don't want to throw away time in my life anymore

[@esse8407]

@@RacesVideos Thank you for answering! I wish you the best runs and subscribers.

[@obsolete9734]

i really want to get this game but if i do get it im not really sure what to do if that makes sense? can anyone explain what you actually do in the game and how it plays

[@HYPER_BRUH_]

I'm going to start doing eclipse... On Switch. Wish me luck.

[@DarkSnP]

For me the rng is the fun part

[@kylefromsouthpark5110]

The story about the disappointing aegis 😂😂😂😂😂

[@SmallMilu]

Its crazy that My friend bought ror2 two days ago he has already gotten two aspects ive gotten three in My 175 hours

[@TruestAura]

Kinda want them to add characters from evolve into ror2 that would be fun

[@chipsesh2348]

just make flamethrower an aoe explosion with a forward burst of movement speed

[@generalgod4326]

Anyone have some good runs with backup mag hardlight afterburner and lysayde cell its kinda fun as a challenge

[@Mar-zw3eu]

Will you play ROR returns when it comes out?

[@RacesVideos]

yeah

[@monotone.9877]

Hey that was me :D the gross console player lol

[@monotone.9877]

Oh also, I did switch to PC. I have the game on PC, I just mained console because I preferred it, but I switched to PC since console is so scuffed.

[@saacattaac007]

I am a target of anti-flamethrower activities

[@naturalkind5591]

CAST NANO SPEAR

[@FlufflySheep]

I dont talk on youtube either :)

[@placeholdername52]

hello race expect my next comment in five days have a good day race, am enjoying the content

[@epicxiphos8269]

As a competitive Team Fortress 2 enjoyer I can super relate to the conversation between 10:05 and 12:00

[@woid0]

engineer pls

[@lntermark]

First :) Also, nice intro

[@diggs3219]

im begging people to stop playing default arti

[@Protog3n_pd2]

Gupping rn fr fr

[@CiuccioeCorraz]

I would actually like to see some "races plays the shitty alt" content, like blight acrid, shield engi, or flamethrower arti.

[@garde544]

Remember that although ion surge keeps artificer out of the way of most enemies, flying monsters will pose an even bigger threat than usual. When facing a flying enemy in the sky, snapfreeze is completely ineffective, charged nano-bomb requires a direct hit to explode, and flame and plasma bolt deal comparatively low damage. Cast nano-spear is good for picking off individual flying enemies, but also costs Artificer even more crowd control.