🇬🇧BRIT Football Fan Reacts To THE GREATEST SOCCER RIVALRY IN NORTH AMERICA!

🇬🇧 BRIT Football Fan Reacts To THE GREATEST SOCCER RIVALRY IN NORTH AMERICA!
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[@kxb9495]

I still remember being at a restaurant on my first trip to Seattle back in 2012 & they had the sounders game on. Been a fan ever since. I don’t think people around the world realize how much Americans actually love soccer.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ve been pleasantly surprised at got much soccer has grown in the US, its really catching on!

[@LordHeadcheez]

@@kabirconsiders It has exploded in the last two decades. While it hasn't quite reached NFL popularity, the fact that it's now a mainstream sport with millions of fans is incredible compared to 20 years ago.

[@H-Vox]

​@@LordHeadcheez it's going to surpass NHL soon and only a matter of time before it surpasses MLB, so it'll be the third biggest sport in America

[@bestlaidplans4511]

I've hated Portland for almost 40 years, but we wouldn't be so driven as a club without them. League table doesn't matter when Seattle plays Portland. The league could fold, and this rivalry would remain. We both love Cascadia, our region, we just disagree on the capital.

[@scottyawesomesauce]

Agreed. As a Portland Timbers supporter the visceral hatred we have for the Sounders and vice versa make this THE rivalry in MLS. We could go 3-the entire season but if our 3 wins are against the Sounders our season is a success.

[@jordanledoux197]

I'm convinced there is only one thing that Seattle and Portland fans hate more than each other: places that aren't Cascadia. But it's like the fans consider each other the only ones worthy of spending time hating, everyone else is just so bad it's not even worth the effort.

[@darryls7339]

In the 70's the Sounders had Bobby Moore and Geoff Hurst on the team, couldn't believe I was watching two of Englands World Cup winners in person, as well as Arsenal Alan Hudson! Harry Redknapp started his coaching career with the Sounders in 1976 as a player/assisant coach. Grew up watching Pele, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Best and many more big names in the old NASL league. Great times

[@eksortso]

It's surreal hearing about that nowadays. But the NASL, and MLS until more recently, relied on so much worldly talent. Part of the growth of the game here in North America includes the growth of academies, the building of great new stadiums, and more coverage of games on television and streaming services. We get the occasional Zlatan, but we're starting to nurture young talent on this side of the globe. Doubt we'll ever be as big as the Premier League, but I'm still being surprised by what's coming. (I'm a Seattle fan, but only because of Drew Carey!)

[@johnglue1744]

I remember a young Peter Beardsley also played for Vancouver.

[@TheOrac]

I had no idea the sounders were around that long and before mls

[@kay_sou]

Don't know much about the MLS, but I find it funny that at the start of the video they said "Don't forget about Vancouver" and then spends the rest of the video not mentioning Vancouver.

[@kabirconsiders]

Good observation 😂

[@DJSingleTone]

that's basically how the rivalry is

[@robro41]

Yes but the beginning of the rivalry was about Seattle and Portland and the video only talks about Seattle and Portland in the title. And yes, at this point it's a rivalry between Seattle and Portland. Vancouver is just the third wheel hoping to take a spot every now and again.

[@gazelle8830]

I think Vancouver is forgotten a lot of the time probably because they haven't been good recently. They've only made the playoffs once in the last 5 seasons or something like that

[@kaihartmann924]

Lol yeah, as a Sounders fan it's always been Timbers that I think of as our rival. Portland has always been the main villain.

[@chrishammond2537]

If ambitious for a longer one "3-Year Grudge Match: Seattle vs. Toronto in MLS Cup Finals" on MLS's channel. Seattle and Toronto met 3 times in 4 years in MLS cup. something that is unheard in Modern MLS, a league designed for parity.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll check it out!

[@cashcleaner]

It’s kinda weird that things have worked out that way, but yeah, Seattle and Toronto meeting so often in the playoffs is an interesting thing. That said, Toronto FC v Montreal is a PROPER rivalry.

[@gregoryfritz7413]

I'm excited being as one that recommended this! And I'm not even a fan of either team. Seattle has since picked up a second MLS Cup.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks for recommending this mate, thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@archerfire77]

#SoundersTilIDie

[@michaelcoxfitness6089]

@@archerfire77 I know I am!! best comment!

[@CollinReinking]

Still a garbage city. #RCTID

[@ryneschwartzburg2879]

Eff Seattle. #burymeingreenandgold

[@leahb8069]

I was at the 2019 MLS Cup rooting for Seattle; it was one of the best soccer experiences of my life.

[@kabirconsiders]

Must have been one hell of a game!

[@offthewoodwork3626]

That atmosphere was unlike anything I've ever seen or experienced in my life. It was really cathartic for the city because although men's teams in other top pro sports leagues had won championships before, it was the first time they had done it in their home stadium/arena since the Metropolitans won the Stanley Cup in 1917. Even the Seattle Storm have only won 1 of their 4 WNBA titles at home, although hopefully #5 will be at home this year.

[@TheSafae123]

Philadelphia Union are sponsored by a bread company, a few years back the Union supporters cut a loaf of bread with a toy chainsaw to mock the Timbers after a goal

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s pretty funny 😂

[@PDXurbia]

Sporting KC had brisket Bob, who'd cut a slice of Brisket meat when they scored against the timbers. We'd take off our green colors and walk into their section to get free food. Then walk back. The meat was so good we didn't even care we got scored on

[@JusNoBS420]

Bimbo bread…lol Seriously though who is the Philadelphia Union’s rival??

[@TheSafae123]

@@JusNoBS420 after the Champion's league action, it's shaping up to being Atlanta. I guess this weekend's game against them will decide if the bad blood continues

[@zay7905]

@@TheSafae123 As an Atlanta fan, after what happened, I can see myself hating Philly pretty easily.

[@alexstephen380]

Fun fact, Seattle and Portland have represented the western conference in the last 7 mls finals, aka, one of them has been in the finals since 2015

[@theblackbear211]

These are 3 teams in what in North America passes for relatively close proximity. You can actually catch a commuter train between them- its roughly 300 miles from Vancouver, BC to Portland with Seattle almost exactly 1/2 way in between. Living on the west side of the Puget Sound - there are ferries crossing the water, filled with fans on game day.

[@kabirconsiders]

From what I’ve seen Portland and Seattle are probably the most passionate football (soccer) cities in the U.S., or am I wrong?

[@theblackbear211]

@@kabirconsiders Well, to be honest... I'm just a casual observer... but I have to say that it is not hard to notice the presence that either club has in their respective cities/ regions. I would say that Vancouver is likely similarly passionate, but they have not enjoyed the success of late that Seattle and Portland have. Soccer in the US has really had a meteoric rise. From basically almost nothing before 1970, to a small pro league - and more importantly, many youth leagues, in multiple regions, before 1980... and it has kept on building. The fact that women's soccer came up so fast and so strong has also been really enjoyable to watch.

[@davidthieman8020]

Thanks Kabir for reacts and show the Greatest Soccer Rivalry in North American. Its was great to see and feel how all this did started, also seeing how the peoples were showing their pride team and history.

[@kabirconsiders]

Absolutely, it’s cool seeing how rivalries build and grow over time

[@ThorWildBoar]

THANK YOU KABIR!! So glad you reacted to this historic football rivalry. My love of football started in 1975 watching Pele, Best, and the other greats of the 1970s then taking my kids to see Beckham, Henry, Lamps etc competing against our home team. Those early footballers planted the seed in the Pacific Northwest and men/women football is massive here.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks Travis, I really enjoyed this one ☺️

[@brandonbryan6551]

The owners of the MLS club originally put the name up for a vote in (i think) 2008. Soundes wasn't on the list, but the fans had a write-in campaign to get the club named Sounders FC to continue the history of clubs that came before.

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s an interesting piece of history!

[@shaftshaft]

Probably paved the way for other clubs to keep their names as well. MLS did a real poor job early on of incorporating previous decades of soccer history into the league.

[@fritzvanlonden1388]

This is an OLD rivalry... dating back to the NASL, when Pele played for the New York Cosmos if that's any indication. It may not be as old as some from MLB, NFL or NBA... but, it's just as fierce.

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s impressive, most Europeans think everything about North American football is only like a decade old

[@jamiefield9506]

@@kabirconsiders In Vancouver the 'Caps carried their fans with them from NASL through minor leagues to MLS, some club supporters are into 3rd and 4th generation. My Dad took me to Whitecap games when I was a teen, and I'm 64 now, taking the grandkids.

[@willcityaway7971]

Watched Portland & Seattle play against each other in the A League. Seattle joined the NASL one year before Portland. 1975. Big brother. Little brother.

[@nochepatada]

They didn't mention Dempsey and Red Card Wedding!?! Seattle ended the match with 8 players and Dempsey got a permanent suspension from the USOC

[@offthewoodwork3626]

One thing the video doesn't mention is that Seattle's manager is a lifelong Sounder. He signed with them in 1980 when he was 17 and played with them until the old NASL folded. He briefly played for the new version of the team when they relaunched in the 90s and became the manager in 2002 when the new owner came in. Together, they helped save the team from going under while winning 2 championships in the second division and have been working together ever since then. When the team moved to MLS in 2009, he agreed to be the top assistant coach so they could bring in someone with more experience at that level. When that coach was fired midway through 2016, he took over as interim manager. Although nobody expected him to become the permanent manager, he led the team to win its first MLS Cup months later and has guided them to 4 MLS Cup Finals in 5 years. He currently has the best playoff winning percentage of any manager in the league's 25 year history.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks for explaining this to me mate!

[@Sephyrulz]

As a member of the Emerald City Supporters, the supporters group of the Seattle Sounders, this did me a world of joy seeing you react to this. I was already a fan of yours after you had been giving MLS a good amount of respect, compared to a lot of your fellow British nationals and others on the European continent. But seeing you react to this video, though a joy, presents a now dated view of the situation. Since 2018, Seattle has firmly and strongly placed their foot on the throat of this rivalry. Little brothers 1 and 2 have well fallen behind, and now that Seattle has won ANOTHER MLS Cup since this video was released, the Kings of Cascadia are truly the team in the most beautiful City in the USA; Seattle, Washington. 💚💙💚💙💚💙💚💙💚💙💚💙

[@kabirconsiders]

It’s crazy how the situation has changed. I thought you and Portland were still bitter, even rivals!

[@Sephyrulz]

@@kabirconsiders Oh, we absolutely are still bitter rivals who despise one another! And that will always be.

[@buckfuttler2877]

This guy called us Sounders fans "douchy" a few comments above...

[@johnglue1744]

Wow one of these 2 teams has played in the MLS Cup each year from 2015 to last year. Quite impressive.

[@PDXurbia]

On the anniversary of the red card wedding, where The Sounders we’re down to 8 men and Clint Dempsey’s red card was for ripping the referees note book 😂

[@kabirconsiders]

Clint’s a madman 😂

[@PDXurbia]

Not that anyone ever advocates violence, but if Caleb Porter has a punchable face for Seattle fans then Clint Dempsey is Portland‘s punching bag

[@trevorhanlin4247]

@@PDXurbia not recomended

[@PDXurbia]

Hence why I'm not advocating it lol

[@DavidKAnderson]

@@PDXurbia I remember hearing about Dempsey's transfer to Seattle and thinking "aw, man...not I gotta hate Clint Dempsey?"

[@kevinlatta6142]

i like your opinion and general outlook on our league as well as its growth. There's many people out there that seemingly don't want us to succeed on a national level as well. It's refreshing hearing a Brit's positive perspective on the sport in the US.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks mate :) it’s great to see America really starting to embrace the sport

[@willardwooten9582]

THANK YOU !!! We get East Coast Bias where most don't even know we have teams let alone from the 70s. Here in Washington they had little soccer leagues for the kids.

[@kabirconsiders]

This rivalry deserves more attention for sure

[@williamcheshire3945]

The fans at 8:13 were chanting "Caleb Porter" which is the name of the Portland head coach at the time.

[@AdamCSmith]

Welcome to American football... and thanks for acknowledging we've come a ways. I'm an original 1974 Seattle Sounder from the NASL days. I'm an atheist but I thank God I'm a Seattle fan. Eternal Blue, Forever Green! #EBFG

[@kabirconsiders]

I’m glad to see how far it’s come!

[@ryansoumokil5081]

So many of the soccer influences in the Pacific NW came from the English second (mainly) division blokes who introduced the game to us in the NASL days. Those players were ambassadors throughout their communities. In Seattle you have coach Schmetzer who grew up in Seattle, played in Seattle, and now coaches Seattle. Many of their staff are legends for the club. In Portland during the 70’s and 80’s we had Jimmy Conway, John Bain, the Gant brothers, and Clive Charles all of whom stayed and raised up the Portland soccer community. Charles coached both the men’s and women’s University of Portland Soccer team’s to national prominence (coaching the women to a National title and providing many US women’s National stars). He was also one of the first prominent black players (along with another former Timber, Clyde Best) to break the color barrier at West Ham United in the old premier league in England. So, both cities blessed with great soccer/football histories to be proud of.

[@kabirconsiders]

It’s awesome seeing the US game grow and blossom. I knew it was an inevitability!

[@ThorWildBoar]

Great post. In what may have been the best women's game played to date, the USWNT vs Canada in the semifinals of the London Olympics played at Wembley, Rapinoe and Sinclair exchanged the first 5 goals. Both players developed under Clive at U of Portland winning a national championship.

[@ChrisHinton1967]

Seattle is my hometown club -- followed them in all their incarnations since the 70s. No other of the recent manufactured rivalries (LAG v LAFC) have the depth of passion as Seattle v Portland. And, just to rub into Portland supporters, Seattle has been to 4 out of the last 5 MLS Cup Finals and won 2 of them.

[@kabirconsiders]

Absolutely. From what I’ve seen Seattle v Portland is definitely the rivalry with the most history

[@kamum.6371]

Yea, but we popped her cherry! #ptfc

[@mooch2oh6]

Seattle has become a pretty dominant club in MLS since this video was put out. The organization truly expects to win trophies at this point, which is great for Sounders fans. I think they were right on the cusp of where they are now when this was made. Also a fun fact, Seattle has never once missed the playoffs since joining the league.

[@kabirconsiders]

Observing the power dynamic between the two clubs is fascinating. Constantly going from one club to the other

[@karlries2854]

The Timbers current keeper who we see at 13:34,Steve Clark, happens to be the keeper who's mistake Valeri capitalized on early in the 2015 mls cup game (8:30). If you can't beat em, join em I guess. Also I'd recommend watching the Derby Days episode about this rivalry. It is quite complimentary to this video in the information it gives. It particularly goes into the origin of Timber Jim and the log cutting tradition as well as a few other traditions.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put the Derby days vid on my list!

[@jeffburdick869]

3:00 that def. was Clint Deuce Dempsey. He played for Fulham for a very solid career in the prem. I still remember setting my alarm for 7 am on weekends to watch him play. He had one season at Tottenham but he didn't seem to mesh well there.

[@kabirconsiders]

Yeah he did well at Fulham. Got quite a few goals for them

[@jeffburdick869]

@@kabirconsiders He did! Also...a perfect illustration of how much football has grown in the US...Dempsey's transfer fee to Fulham was $4 million, a record for an American at the time(2006). Pulisic's to Chelsea was $74 million.

[@robro41]

Fun fact: The Seattle keeper Stephen Frei, who made the save at 9:28, got a tattoo of his save on his left hand after the game to signify the first Sounders MLS cup win. He was named as the MVP of the game. Not much offense in that game to be honest and the save was better than winning penalty kick (sorry Torres). Also Seattle now has 2 MLS cup so we can hold that over Portland for now.

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s awesome, Stephen Frei sounds like a good lad!

[@wolffriendinus]

It's Stefan Frei

[@TacomaParkour]

You know Seattle's head coach played for the Sounders in the 80s!

[@kabirconsiders]

I didn’t know that!

[@brandonbryan6551]

@@kabirconsiders he's been involved with every iteration of the club. Real local guy, and the fans love him. Kind of coach that's willing to have a pint with the fans.

[@jazzorion1]

He’s even an official member of the sounders’ largest supporters group, Emerald City Supporters.

[@kaihartmann924]

Been a Sounders fan since '09 when they entered the league. Love the team so much, quite dominant in recent years, with four MLS cup finals in five years. Reluctant respect to the Timbers too though honestly, I can't deny that they're a quality team.

[@kabirconsiders]

Great to see you giving some props to the Timbers mate, I could feel your reluctance from here 😂

[@PatrickJarrett]

Seattle and Portland have a double header coming up soon where the men's teams and the women's teams are both playing each other on the same day, and in fact the women's match is going to be at Lumen Field (where the Sounders and Seahawks play, normally the women's team play down in Tacoma.)

[@kabirconsiders]

I definitely will be watching that! I need to put it in my calendar!

[@BagoPorkRinds]

@@kabirconsiders It will be on August 29th, OL Reign at 4 PM PST (12 AM GMT) and Sounders at 7:30 PM PST (3:30 AM GMT). Good luck trying to keep awake.

[@edwinsheldon3068]

I didn't remember they renamed the Clink. Shows you how little news of consequence there is from the quaint fishing village!

[@BagoPorkRinds]

@@edwinsheldon3068 It was renamed last year. CenturyLink changed their branding to Lumen Technologies to reflect whatever services their offering other than just TV/Cable/Internet.

[@ThorWildBoar]

The women's side of this rivalry shouldn't be dismissed. The quality of players on both sides is ridiculous. Five of the expected USWNT starting lineup is on both teams. Add in Franch as the backup USWNT keeper and Sinclair for Canada and there's at least 7 world class players.

[@Tamalan]

“There’s No Pity in the Rose City”!!!

[@kabirconsiders]

I love it

[@chipy0413]

Go SoundersGo! Fight Sounders Fight!! And the entire world will tremble at your might. We sing for you, We love you so. And we will follow you wherever you may go!!!

[@kabirconsiders]

I love that chant! I can’t wait to catch a game at Sounders stadium

[@chipy0413]

@@kabirconsiders I have a few videos on my page of the fans

[@davidalexander9047]

Providence only holds about 20,000, but yeah man, love that we sound like 40

[@WTDProductions]

Ayee thanks for choosing my suggestion! Go Timbers #RCTID 😉

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks for the suggestion mate, thoroughly enjoyed this one!

[@janemahan2663]

I'm an old Englishwoman living in Portland. I love my Timbers!

[@oldbittercraig3513]

First time I visited Portland was 2009, two years before they joined the MLS. They had Timbers flags, scarves and coasters in every single bar we visited over a couple neighborhoods. More Timbers representation than Trail Blazers. That's how much the city was behind the club. Also was living in Paraguay in 2015, went to see if the food court at the nearby shopping mall had the MLS final on (they would play La Liga, Bundesliga Serie A all morning/afternoon and move west to MLS and South American leagues as the day went on. IF no live matches, re-broadcasts. Always futbol.) ... sure enough, they were playing Timbers v Crew not on the regular mounted tvs, but the 3 tv across, 2 tv down MEGASCREEN. Think I converted a couple locals to the Timbers when they saw the Gringo in Green intently watching the match while downing Pilsen. Finally got to attend a match in 2018 with a friend sitting immediately to the right of the Timbers Army. Timber Joey apparently seldom ventures too far wide of that section made it over to ours, hoisting a fresh cut stump after a Timbers goal. Was a great time, great environment, and great Oregon beer to drink at local watering holes afterwards.

[@ItsDannicus]

Since 2015, No MLS Cup has been played without either Seattle or Portland. Seattle has been in the League final in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020. Portland in 2015 and 2018. Seattle has won two titles, Portland has won once. In 2021, thus far, Seattle is the top of the table and we are unbeaten. Hopeful for another title run this year too.

[@kabirconsiders]

Oh wow, looks like Seattle is dominating!

[@pitdoctor]

@@kabirconsiders So far this season the Sounders are 7-0-3 with a +13 goal differential and 0 goals allowed from the run of play.

[@donviajero2580]

But don't be surprised is Portland ends up challenging them later in the season. The Timbers have been hit so hard by injuries that they've had an uneven start, but as they recover those players, they are going to be very tough to beat.

[@pitdoctor]

@@donviajero2580 I'm sure Portland is going to be tough as the season goes along, but don't forget Seattle has been dealing with injuries as well.

[@djobiwan47]

Great to see this level of attention. I'm RCTID (Rose City 'Til I Die) since 1975 but rivalries are best when we're all fighting for the top spot and trophies. Up the Timbers!

[@jeffsmith8849]

The Timbers don't have too many trophies lately.

[@Iatehmem]

Thank you for seeing this video

[@kabirconsiders]

I really enjoyed this one!

[@gordieparenteau6555]

The oldest soccer club in Canada is Victoria West FC, founded in 1896. The oldest soccer club in the United States is Kearney Scots, founded in 1895. Both are amateur clubs. Vic West play in the Vancouver Island Soccer League. Kearny Scots play in the North Jersey Soccer League. So yes, the game does have a long history over here, despite what others would have you believe.

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s awesome to know. According to some Brits, soccer was only discovered by North America a week ago 😂

[@gordieparenteau6555]

@@kabirconsiders I've encountered that attitude from Brits and other Europeans for years, even the expats who moved here. Educating these newcomers is a constant job.

[@cliffrusso1159]

Also the US Open Cup (now called the Lamar Hunt Open Cup) is the longest continuous soccer competition in the US. Started in 1915

[@derkaiser420]

I became I Sounders fan when I was stationed in Washington. The fans have a pub we all go to and we march to the Stadium chanting. I was hooked, I seriously felt like I was in London. The police block off the street so we can march safely. When I went to a Portland game they made a tifo and I was across from the Ultras and it was insane. But fans banter but are friendly, we don't fight or feel threatened in anyway which is nice.

[@DavidKAnderson]

Portlander here, and while I have to objectively acknowledge the Sounders' successes, I'll be damned if I'll have a good word to say about that fishing village and its teams/supporters. ;) Side note about Portland: the Timbers' sister club, Thorns FC (NWSL) is basically unique in the world of women's football (or women's sports in general), averaging well over 20,000 spectators (yes, four zeros) per match, pre-plague. World class roster (including five players regularly called into the dominant US women's national side, a couple on the cusp, and Christine Sinclair, the all-time goal scorer in international play, male or female (186!). Soccer City USA...

[@buckfuttler2877]

Well I'm a Sounders fan and I like Portland and it's people 🤷

[@lillianwilson13]

Also University of Portland is like no other college program!

[@72hawkj]

A Timbers fan, glad to see these videos and watch games.

[@kabirconsiders]

I love the buzzing of the chainsaw after every goal, such a cool tradition!

[@BagoPorkRinds]

This is how crazy the playoff format is in MLS. The year Seattle won their first MLS Cup in 2016, Seattle was 2nd to last place in the Western Conference. They were 22 pts behind the conference leader, FC Dallas mid-season in week 20. They were for all intent and purposes, dead to rights. No one thought they would make the playoffs. The head coach Sigi Schmid who coached 2 teams, Columbus Crew and LA Galaxy to MLS titles prior to coaching the Sounders was just sacked and asst. coach Brian Smetzer was put in as interim coach. But fortunes turned around on July 31 when their designated #10 DP from Uruguay, Nicolas Lodeiro who played on the Uruguay National Team and signed from Boca Juniors made his debut for the Sounders. That match with LA Galaxy ended in a draw and every match afterword put them in the position to make the final (7th) playoff spot at the end of the regular season. They then won all of their playoff matches to the final. This would never happen in other leagues. Seattle since their first season in MLS back in 2009 has never missed making the playoffs. Making it to 4 finals in 5 years, wining 2 MLS Cups, 1 Supporter's Shield, 4 straight U.S. Open Cups, and 4 of 6 Cascadia Cups in the MLS era. No other team since has been so consistent.

[@kabirconsiders]

Holy cow that is a crazy system!

[@chrishammond2537]

OH HOHO! great video! great rivalry! havent even watched your reaction yet but STOKED

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks mate ☺️ this was a fun one!

[@greenhaven22]

It's a great rivalry, and like most good ones, there are different things that each side can hang their hat on. The big ones for me are the number of MLS Cups, 2-1 Seattle, and the all-time series is 61-48-13 Seattle.

[@kabirconsiders]

I need to check those two out!

[@r.j.blackaby511]

It may have seemed like 40K fans during that double post game but Portlands stadium at the time only held about 22k fans

[@kabirconsiders]

Its impressive how much noise they can produce!

[@arjb1046]

It's amazing how much this derby has raised the profile of soccer on the continent. And I couldn't be happier. Go Timbers.

[@raurymauk]

Timbers just won tonight when we scored that goal the stadium went nuts. It was the first game full capacity since the pandemic to see a goal and win is some special when you play with Portland it's so different to any club in the world.

[@Chalo707FTP]

You Definitely deserves way more subscribers my man new sub

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s so much mate :)

[@zay7905]

It's really great to see a Brit not crapping on soccer in America. I lived in Atlanta for 8 years (We moved in August of 2019) and became a fan right around when our team started, and the games were great. Where I live now Americans themselves are talking bad about it. One person I know said it's "sad" and another person I was around said something along the lines of "I don't watch American soccer... I watch good soccer." Regardless, it's nice to see somebody, especially a Brit, not being ignorant. I've only watched a few of your vids but this channel is really great!

[@kabirconsiders]

It’s incredible how much the MLS has improved over the last five years, really impressive

[@curtischadd]

Something to consider: Sounders have made the playoffs every single year since 2009.

[@taiwanwhite5762]

I worked the gate at Sounders games for 3 seasons. They play at the Seahawks home field.

[@kabirconsiders]

The atmosphere must have been lively right?

[@ryansoumokil5081]

Born and raised in Portland. Grew up watching the Timbers VS Seattle since 1975. The rivalry is REAL. Weeks are made and destroyed depending on whether your team wins or not.

[@kabirconsiders]

I need to watch a rivalry game from the stadium! The atmosphere looks amazing

[@khairyjenkins]

Im a Galaxy fan but I lived in Portland for 3 year and Timbers atmosphere is one the best sports atmosphere in North America. People are engaged and the crowd is insane. I went to a lot of games regardless if it was against La Galaxy and I loved being in Providence Park. Kind of miss Portland for that aspect alone

[@titan1080]

Keep you're eye on us later this summer. On August 29th, there will be a Seattle v Portscum double-header at Lumen Field, where OL Reign take on the Thorns from the NWSL (our top flight women's league) in the matinee match, with the Sounders v Timbers as the night cap. The Reign/Thorns rivalry also has a salty history, even though it is comparatively new.

[@kabirconsiders]

Portscum 😂😂 gets me every time

[@titan1080]

@@kabirconsiders yeah, an old boss of mine from Southampton laughed at me when I said that 🤣

[@LupinKing]

Another MLS rivalry to look into is the New York Red Bulls and DC United rivalry. Those games would get brutal and there was genuine hatred from both sides and it ramped up each year

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll check it out!

[@kodycicale8229]

Before I really started following MLS, Portland vs Seattle was the only MLS game i watched. This rivalry got me into the league more.

[@safespacebear]

Thanks for watching this. I'm from Seattle and it's good to spread awareness about how we have to suffer Portland's existence lololol Vancouver is a part of the cascadia cup as well but I just bring myself to hate them as much as the Timbers. Toronto however, that is a Canadian team I can't stand

[@kabirconsiders]

I really enjoyed this vid! The rivalry looks awesome I’d love to come watch a game between you two soon

[@mollyesther1]

Providence Park holds 25k, yes, we’re loud, but it also helps that the shape of the stadium is a tall 3 sided bowl and enhances the sound.

[@kabirconsiders]

You guys make an impressive amount of noise!

[@kamum.6371]

@@kabirconsiders we do it for every game🤙🏽

[@dubmeup]

As a sounders fan I'm so excited to see this! I love the Sounders for many reasons but I think the Seattle v Portland rivalry is one of the best parts about being a fan for either team. The players and the fans care so muh and its amazing to see. EBFG

[@ethangums1922]

From seattle and I’m a huge fan! Sounders are doing so amazing now, destroying Portland past few games

[@kabirconsiders]

Yeah I hear Seattle have just been dominating recently!

[@ChrisVuletich]

As another example of how popular football (soccer) is getting in the US -- St. Louis City FC (an expansion team in 2023) had deposits for 30,000 season ticket seats in the first 15 minutes that they went on sale, and then 50,000 seats in the following 24 hours. That's not only a record for the MLS, but for every other major sport in the country. I recently moved to St. Louis for work and the new stadium is being built a little less than a mile from my house and the speed in which they're making progress on it is crazy. The whole city can't wait for that first match.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’m so buzzed hearing this! To me it was inevitable that the US would become a big player with football. I’m glad it’s happening at such a fast pace!

[@laurelanderson6782]

I was at the 2018 game in this video when I lived in Seattle. Oooooohhhh that hurt so fooking baaaaaddddd

[@trevorhanlin4247]

Fun fact, a team from this rivalry has been in the playoff championships every year since 2015.

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s an amazing statistic, shows how good these two clubs are at recruiting players

[@trevorhanlin4247]

@@kabirconsiders Three teams, least we forget Vancouver. (the video almost does as well!) Hard to have a "rivalry" with Canadians, but Vancouver actually won the first cup, then called the "soccer bowl" in 1979. So as much as Portland has the MLS cup on us Sounders, Vancouver has it over both of us!

[@samhutchison9582]

Some context. Up here in Cascadia we have our three cities and 10 million people tucked up here. Vancouver is about 300 miles (500 is km) from Portland and Seattle is right in the middle. Next closest city to any part of Cascadia? Over 600 miles (over 1000km) away. We are our own little region tucked in our corner. A Vancouverite will identify with a Portlander more than they will with central and eastern Canadians. When we compete, we are competing four the dominance of our little mini-country. Portland and Seattle, both being American have a very love hate relationship. They our brother so when it's versus outsiders we have each other's back. But that sibling rivalry is strong. When it comes to us competing for dominance in the region, few people fight more fiercely. Signed, a man who grew up in Portland, moved to Seattle for college, and low lives back in Portland. I am a Sounders fan and worked for the team, in the band, during the sounder's inaugural MLS season.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks for providing some context Sam, it’s awesome watching the American game grow and blossom

[@Cool-Edit-5000]

Dempsey started with New England, and then played for Fullham and Spurs. He came back and finished with Seattle.

[@Cool-Edit-5000]

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[@jacquesmassard9226]

off the top of my head Portland, Seattle, and Atlanta have the most EPL like feel

[@kabirconsiders]

I feel like Portland and Seattle are probably the most U.K. type cities, maybe Boston too

[@jeffburdick869]

@@kabirconsiders They def. have similar weather. As someone who doesn't like the extreme cold or extreme heat, I'm jealous of yours(and theirs) weather.

[@JKTritt]

@@kabirconsiders As a Revolution fan, I wish I could agree with including Boston. But no, we’re still working on it. Average attendance swings between 10K up to 20K in a 65K stadium built for the NFL and situated 30 miles outside of Boston. Every attempt to build a soccer specific stadium near Boston has been met with a “not in my backyard” mentality. Our professional women’s team (Boston Breakers) even went bankrupt and disbanded (criminal embezzlement might have been involved, it’s still being litigated in the court system). And now, there are substantiated rumors that the team may be ready to replace the last original MLS team logo with an abomination that looks like Glasgow Rangers and Crystal Palace had a hate baby (l might be bitter). Boston / New England is ruled by the Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins, and Celtics (MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA), not necessarily in that order. The Revolution hardly ever get a mention, and when they do it’s on the traffic report to warn that “there’s a game at Gillette (the stadium name) coming up”. Hardly ever mentioning the team’s name. No, Boston is not in the same category as Seattle, Portland, or Atlanta when it comes to soccer. 😢

[@fitzgeraldlansanah5306]

React to old school mls penalty shootouts or penalty kicks they are awesome Also react to Toronto Seattle mls cup rivalry they met in the final 2016 2017 and 2019

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on my list!

[@wildwarriorsgaming8123]

Yea do that although I would like to forget 2017

[@fitzgeraldlansanah5306]

@@wildwarriorsgaming8123 I would like to forget 2016 and 2019 but all the games were good

[@SparklyGRUNT]

Gotta Love my sounders!

[@kabirconsiders]

Awesome team mate!

[@ShaneBillbrough]

Love seeing the MLS vid uploads, can’t wait for the reactions to the first El Trafico and the PHI-LAFC 2020 game. Add PHI-NYRB playoffs 2019 to the list of those too!

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks brother ☺️ more on the way!

[@e.m.b2834]

My old select coaches were all sounder players or in some cases well known English expats back in the 80s.... a lot of English ex players settled in Seattle

[@JoeVideoed]

I'm kind of surprised that the San Jose Earthquakes aren't part of the Cascadia Cup. Like Portland, Seattle & Vancouver they go back to the old NASL days, down to keeping the nickname. Most other cities in the MLS also had roots from back then, but they didn't go so far as keeping the nickname & emphasizing their soccer traditions.

[@kabirconsiders]

Based on what you’ve said they should definitely be included within it

[@JoeVideoed]

@@kabirconsiders TY for replying again.

[@dsawhney11]

Omg their playing this weekend 830 est 530 pst on fs1

[@abrahamrodriguezpineda1848]

You should do a video on the California Classico 2012, 2013 or even 2017, San Jose vs LA Galaxy at Stanford Stadium 50k people and countless comeback wins for San Jose

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put them on my list, thanks for the suggestion!

[@SteveosSoccerOdyssey]

Maine's Own ROGER LEVESQUE!!!!! #LEGEND!!!!

[@lordd794]

They’ve had Sounders matches at their home stadium, with over 70,000 people in attendance.

[@kabirconsiders]

That’s insane! I bet the crowd noise was massive

[@RAINCITYSTRENGTH]

The pandemic made me realize how much I love watching the Sounders beat the Timbers at Lumen. Hell I’ll even buy a Lumberjack a beer so he has a receptacle for his tears.

[@kabirconsiders]

“A receptacle for his tears” 😂😂 this comment cracked me up

[@jakelooper5053]

I was one of the people who recommended it and i am a sounders fan since 2015

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks mate, this was awesome to watch!

[@willwerner8660]

one of the best youtubers- here from chicago

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks so much bro ☺️

[@Freshenstein23]

Damn I need to follow soccer more!! That was a dope video

[@kabirconsiders]

Yeah I really enjoyed this one!

[@majora999]

Part of the reason Seattle vs Portland is the best rivalry is because it goes back to the mid 70s when both teams were in the original NASL. It continued through multiple league iterations until now when both are in MLS. So this is a 50 year old rivalry, no other MLS teams have the history the Seattle vs Portland rivalry has.

[@kabirconsiders]

It’s awesome learning about the history of this rivalry. Really goes back a while, adds to the authenticity

[@TheRealOTK]

You should watch the documentary "Soccertown USA" to get an even better understanding of the sport in the states. It's probably too long to make a react video to, but it's definitely worth watching!

[@kabirconsiders]

Sounds interesting mate, I’ll put it on my list!

[@Dannyedelman4231]

I live in Oregon and Portland timber and Portland thorn fans are ruthless at games

[@kabirconsiders]

I love that passion, makes games so much fun to watch

[@Dannyedelman4231]

@@kabirconsiders I know but when they start fighting it gets very scary very fast I used too live in Portland and whenever Seattle was in town extra police officers were on standby

[@bernardgaming7206]

Fact of the matter is that the Sounders are the only MLS team to make the playoffs in every year of their existence in the league(2008- present). And at the rate this year is going, this streak isn't ending anytime soon.

[@kabirconsiders]

Wow sounds like the Sounders are on one hell of a run!

[@realflashkid]

Yes!!! Do more MLS! Every MLS goal of the year would be a good one.

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll put it on my list! More on the way ☺️

[@waterboy99troop]

@@kabirconsiders Look for "eric hassli goal vs seattle" also. It's from 2011. Not a goal of the year, but honestly one of the best goals I've ever seen.

[@jeromemccaskill7133]

I'm a Sounder Supporter through and through and have to comment that most of the matches I've ever seen have never been a full strength squad really for either team. In my opinion I believe that adds to the back and forth of the rivalry. The schedule is often in favor of one team depending on the previous year. If they were good the year before, expect a tough schedule. The next match between these two is going to be intense for sure. 100% this is the best rivalry in the US.

[@kabirconsiders]

I need to get to one of your matches ASAP!

[@BroadwayJoe99]

FWIW, Seattle and Portland (and the states of Washington and Oregon by extension) are natural rivals in just about everything, borne out of their relative isolation to the rest of the United States. While perhaps not in as an explicit form as the Cascadia Cup, the rivalry has existed to one extent or another throughout every sporting competition that's managed to include the two cities/states, from the NBA to minor (and junior) league hockey and minor league baseball and college athletics. It'll be very interesting to see if and how a Cascadia rivalry develops in the National Hockey League when the Seattle Kraken enter the league next season to do battle with the Vancouver Canucks.

[@ozfootball9041]

check out the A league Sydney Derby, the biggest rivilary here in australia

[@kabirconsiders]

I’ll check it out!

[@ozfootball9041]

@@kabirconsiders Make sure it is this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn6zZZugh9Obhbc

[@ozfootball9041]

@@kabirconsiders kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXzIf2pnpqZ6gbs or this video, if you choose this one you must watch the full video it is mental

[@slapandclap2k689]

BANGER INBOUND!!!!

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks brother, hopefully!

[@principalmcvicker6530]

I'm a big Seattle Mariners/Seahawks fan but the Sounders don't really make my radar lol. Glad they're good, I guess!

[@Spencer_Beard]

Currently in this MLS Season, Seattle is the last undefeated team, 7-0-3, 24pts, 18GF, 5GA (no goals allowed from open play), +13 Goal Diff., amazing start, down their starting GK, No. 10 man, and center back and still winning.

[@derDKP]

Since joining the MLS: Portland: 1 MLS cup Seattle: 2 MLS cups, 4 Open Championships, 1 Supporters Shield, highest all-time PPG in MLS history.

[@kabirconsiders]

Oh wow, so there’s a bit of a power imbalance 😅

[@JimyJonathanYouDidntCutMySubba]

Timbers also have MLS is back cup

[@derDKP]

@@JimyJonathanYouDidntCutMySubba nobody out side of Portland cares at all about the Covid cup This actually showcases how lopsided the rivalry is. If they Timbers found nickel in the parking lot after practice, they would probably try to pass it off as silverware.

[@JimyJonathanYouDidntCutMySubba]

@@derDKP you can't just ignore a trophy that your team tried to win

[@MissMiriam83]

@@JimyJonathanYouDidntCutMySubba I would argue that didn't really try to win. They played for contract purposes... and not catching covid while there. See Cinn. and Dallas who were sent packing. The only cases of covid that hit the first team came from international duty. And the entire team (first team, Defiance (ST2), & support staff) was vaccinated as soon as they legally were allowed to.

[@twiz7933]

Going to this game in Portland on august 15th

[@kabirconsiders]

I know you’ll have a blast!

[@chrisb5888]

You should watch the penalty that defied physics. Really good video

[@kabirconsiders]

I did that one a couple weeks back, really enjoyed it!

[@ryanhenderson8658]

If you're ever in the states, I'll take you to a Sounders match. I respect your channel too much to let you go to a timbers match.

[@buckfuttler2877]

Yep, who would want to go to that pile of garbage "stadium" they play at lol. GREAT atmosphere though, ill give em that.

[@kabirconsiders]

Thanks bro :)

[@sharonnorman6722]

It is the fiercest rivalry. Proud to be a member of Aces. Any club except Seattle

[@kabirconsiders]

I need to get to a rivalry game ASAP!

[@blakelemke1674]

California Classico San Jose vs galaxy definitely has to be up there as one of the fiercest rivalries

[@kabirconsiders]

I need to check out a vid of that rivalry