🇬🇧BRIT Reacts To WHY IS EVERYONE LEAVING CALIFORNIA?

[@theproceedings4050]

There are Federal, State, and local taxes in California. A 13 percent state tax rate is exceedingly high.

[@aaronakamatt1747]

Yeah especially since the state I'm from has no city or state tax on income. And a state like Georgia's is less than half that lol..

[@johnbernstein7887]

@@Dave-hb7lx If you only make a 100,000 where i live you might as well get food stamps. Rent alone is 6,000 a month and gas is almost $6.00 a gallon along with $7.00 dollars a day for bridge tolls you'll have no money left to eat.

[@johnbernstein7887]

@@Dave-hb7lx Still what you have left wouldn't cover rent, gas or bridge tolls adjusted or not. Simple math. That said, I live in California and own a home here in the SF Bay Area. Paid off. I'm freaking rich!

[@laurencooper654]

No one is paying that. It’s cheaper for a middle class person tax wise in California than in Texas.

[@theproceedings4050]

@@laurencooper654 How'd you work that one out, even if 13 percent is the highest rate and not the rate most pay Texas has no state income tax, and California has the highest sales and gas tax rates in the nation.

[@robertschwartz4810]

I'm at 14:20, and I still haven't heard a word about the most important topic. Water, or the lack of it. Millions of people depend on water for irrigation of crops, and every other use we need it for (including drinking! ).

[@lindarobertson1574]

You are right! The cost of living in Texas is steadily increasing! Especially big cities like Houston ( & surrounding towns)

[@propertylady57]

They need a new Governor.

[@manxkin]

State tax, federal tax, property tax, sales tax. Tax, tax, tax.

[@shantereed]

Yes, and regulations for the regulations.

[@Maeshalanadae]

And the fact that the left does nothing to crime or homelessness.

[@Montweezy]

,💯💯💯

[@Fuzz32]

Didn’t we start a war over taxes?

[@shantereed]

@@Fuzz32 Lol right. I think we forgot that’s why the revolution started

[@amandagonzales2621]

A lot of us texans are seeing prices skyrocket with a large population moving here. Our cities are being gentrified by them. I have also seen a rise in bumper stickers saying "don't California my Texas"

[@Elizabethwaiting]

You are being way too polite. Texans want to build a wall around their entire state to keep Californians out. They screwed up their state making it totally unlivable on every level so they move here and immediately crap all over our state. They should stay in California and clean up their mess, not destroy the rest of America.

[@derrickowen8162]

Same thing happening in Utah. The cost of living sucks significantly compared to how it used to be just 10 years ago.

[@LA_HA]

Every State near CA is trying hard to figure out how to keep Californians out of their State because Californians are messing up their State in a variety of ways. The administration need to start confronting other States about sending their homeless and criminal elements to CA. Also, part of CA financial intake is Taxation. On our ballot, there are more propositions begging for More tax money the idiot politicians can disappear into a void we'll never find. They are even denying there's an exodus, which is insane. California, Vote tomorrow. Get these lazy fools out of office. Give someone else a chance to do the job the ones in office now haven't done anything about. Just get rid of them

[@anois1159]

Same bumper stickers in Arizona. Don't California my Arizona. They really need to leave their ultra liberal voting in California.

[@tonytonysannie]

That's right! Don't move here to Texas and then vote for the same things that made your own state a dumpster fire. They just don't learn! 🤦‍♀️

[@Atochabsh]

We left a year ago. My hubby was born and bred in CA , I was a transplant and lived there 20 years. First thing to be aware of is that the cost of seeing the pretty part of CA is extremely high. Want to go to Napa/Sonoma wine country? Better be prepared for $500+ a night hotels. Want to go to Monterey? $500 hotels. for example. We struggled paycheck to paycheck for 20 years. Lived in a mobile home where the space rent went up from $410 a month to $1000 a month. As we got to the end of our stay in CA, the homeless issue is very very real. It's not just skid row, it's all over. In sacramento I guess about 7000 homeless. They are on the sidewalks, every underpass, every public green area. With them comes polluted (fecal material) streets, rivers and parks. You can't even let your dog swim in the rivers with out suggested bathing them after. All fish are toxic. Taxes and prices are horrendous. There are federal and state taxes, and property taxes if you own a home. We realized that we could not afford to retire in CA. So we left to Texas. And Yes, texas prices have gone up just in the year we've been here. But we got here in time and were able to puchase a beautiful home. The mobile home took time to sell of course, background checks to allow people to live in the park prolonged and cancelled 5 sales. I struggled with vandalism and squatters while trying to sell it. When you ask people why they don't move.....nearly all of them say The Weather. Which I find absolutely ridiculous.

[@nacy55]

In my state of Oregon we had a high immigration from California many years ago and it was because we didn't have a sales tax. We have a state income tax but no sales tax so when you buy something that says it's a dollar it's a dollar. Then only problem we experienced in my state was that with that influx flooding our state they created the same problems they're having down in California. All you have to do is look at Portland. Growing up in Portland it was a beautiful place to be and now it's rotten to the Core and filled with homeless people and crime

[@trey1sandoval]

Crime and homeless are literally everywhere in the country shut up

[@evantaylor8046]

Go to the more rural areas and they’re pricing everyone out to where people can’t even afford to buy yet alone rent a house

[@bigplanett]

Sure, blame Californians. You know it's your own native Oregonians at fault. Turns out higher populations bring higher crime and other problems. You need to figure it out and fix it and stop blaming others. 😒

[@TXKafir]

I live in Texas. I had a bumper sticker custom made that says "Welcome to Texas. Please don't vote for what you fled."

[@trey1sandoval]

@@TXKafir that’s surely going to stop our state from turning blue soon 😂 you have at least another decade buddy then it’s done

[@aikeuchi1175]

I lived in San Diego CA for 2 decades. I left 12 years ago. I had to live 40 miles away from good paying jobs to afford a home that cost 545k in 2004. That does not even count insane electric and water bills which were about $300 per month even being careful with use. Carpooling my daily commute took nearly 2 hrs each way in gridlock traffic. That was 20 hrs a week of my life I lost for years. High housing, traffic, air pollution, crime. I moved to Mississippi 12 years ago. I make close to the same salary. My house on lake front property cost $135k, my electric and water cost about $75.00. Traffic.. What traffic? Blue skies, abundant water, forests, wildlife.. I'm in heaven now.

[@PelosiStockPortfolio]

Why did you buy a house so far away? I bought one right in the middle of San Diego, just north of the park, in 2014 for the same price. You must have been really well off to afford that in 2004, should have got something closer

[@dawn6320]

Awesome. Glad you headed To the South. It's the best living.

[@amywells8609]

@@PelosiStockPortfolio and your property value has gone up a lot more than property in Mississippi

[@bigplanett]

Lol, it's hilarious that you believe Mississippi is an improvement. One of the poorest and most racist states in the country with extreme humidity. Enjoy.

[@Megan-ir3ze]

@@dawn6320 not w the heat 😂

[@a00141799]

The video that you watched was "click bait" Kabir and you would really have to understand the current political climate here in the US to even understand why someone would title a video "why is everybody leaving California." California's problems are real and well documented, but wildly exaggerated to promote a particular political narrative. (A false narrative similar to the one that duped UK citizens into voting for Brexit!!) ♠ I was born and raised in San Diego but relocated to Seattle in 1999 for work. I travel down there all the time for business and to visit my family. California probably has closer to 40 million people (72% of the population of England) so what constitutes the "everyone" in this title. The weather is nice year round and the state has the biggest economy in the country. Its a magnet for homeless people. Homelessness is also geographical because who'd want to be homeless in Minnesota, Wisconsin or Montana?? No disrespect to those states, they're beautiful places but not a desirable place for a homeless person. I was in Sacramento (I'm not at all familiar with this part of California) a few months ago on business and was surprised to see homeless encampments that really blighted a few areas of this very beautiful city. But as soon as I drove out of the city the scale of the problem went from 10 to 2. The same can be said for Seattle. The problems are very concentrated and for wealthy states like California, it looks very bad. Its not a problem unique to the US cities either. Check out the homeless problems in the UK, Germany, Australia, Canada.

[@lauanasimmons7202]

My family moved from California about two years ago. And are very happy living in Florida and Ohio.

[@trey1sandoval]

Why would you happy to live in those shithole states I’m confused?

[@panangramgepearanan3974]

Hello from Florida! 😊 Hope your stay is at least okay with all of the construction 😅 I still love it here though, been here all my life so I hope you enjoy it to 😁

[@lauanasimmons7202]

@@panangramgepearanan3974 Thank you.

[@ClayLoomis1958]

Florida and Ohio? Yeah, knock yourself out. If mosquitoes and humidity really charge you up, that sounds like a good plan.

[@mishka422]

We left Southern California 21 years ago when we saw the writing on the wall. Poverty, traffic, quality of life and income versus cost of living were getting out of control even then. It took me 45 minutes each way to go 7 miles to work. Its worse now. We are so happy we left before it got as bad as it is now. Georgia is beautiful and cost of living and quality of life are 100% better.

[@trey1sandoval]

Did you know that poverty exists everywhere and Georgia is a poor state

[@FunWithScienceJAshmead]

I am from Seattle, and the flood of techies from California has now made us one of the more expensive cities to live in. I am a fifth generation Seattleite and the city has completely changed from when I was younger. I wandered the streets late at night and never worried about being mugged. That is not the case anymore. I really miss how it used to be before it became a big city.

[@battle_p9291]

I'm a native Californian, and I chose move out of state 4 years ago due to a job opportunity, but also because of the high cost of living. I did move to another state which isn't cheap to live in either, but I still decided to relocate, and I'm able to manage living much better than if I had stayed.

[@tomhalla426]

I was a painting contractor in California, and the level of regulation was ridiculous. I left in 2005.

[@nolanholmberg311]

Aw, poor baby can’t use lead in their paint anymore. How sad. :((

[@tomhalla426]

@@nolanholmberg311 even latex paint has volatile solvents to act as surfectants. Being ignorant is a seeming requirement to be a green or an official with CARB.

[@sallyintucson]

My siblings and father all live in the Los Angeles area. Our ancestors moved there after the Civil War so it’s easy to find ancestor’s burial sites. I’ve lived in AZ since “74 and can’t picture myself living in CA. Rent, utilities, food, transportation…. It all costs too much.

[@fionnmaccumhaill3257]

@@sallyintucson My ancestors came to California in the 1800's via covered wagon. This and a parent in dementia care are the only reasons I haven't left.

[@sallyintucson]

@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 So did mine.

[@gdhaney136]

I lived in the Los Angeles area for two years, and it's ridiculously expensive, but the traffic is insane. Also, the state tax of 13.3% doesn't include federal tax or sales tax. In Florida, we aren't charged state taxes, just federal. I love the water, so I couldn't live in a landlocked state.

[@willwroten4871]

I have 2 condos in fl. I live abroad now. Fl is a lot calmer life style than cali. I lived in hermosa beach for 3 months and i couldnt stand how rude people were. Florida still has that southern hospitality

[@willwroten4871]

To who replied if you want a hig roi buy in tn and live elae where. If you dont know roi is return on investment. Gatlinburg is a prime example. My 2 condos make about 8k usd a month dirung summer and 2k during winter. If your looking ti buy and sell tn is the way. If ur looking to invest to make profit continuously go fl.

[@ClayLoomis1958]

Yeah, mosquitoes and humidity are huge attractions in Florida. Everyone wants that.

[@gdhaney136]

@@ClayLoomis1958 Salty! 😂 May you dream of an alligator tonight.

[@EdDunkle]

Florida has the best hurricanes

[@KimInCalifornia]

I’ve lived in San Diego for most of my life (Although I’ve lived in England and other places too. ) Our governor and supermajority Democrats (Dems have been in control for decades) would rather do anything rather than help Californians. They tax and collect fees constantly. We now give free housing, phones , and medical to illegal immigrants while poor Californians go without. And do we get anything for it…yes-crime, Fentanyl, homelessness, crumbling infrastructure, etc. I love California but hate the government. Yes we pay state and federal taxes. Also, other states have sane governors who don’t open and shut the economy on the drop of a dime.

[@cmf6081]

I lived in San Diego (Southern CA). It took me 45 min to 1 hr a day to get to work (25 miles). My night shift at the hospital was 12.5 hrs. It took me 45 min to 1 hour to get home. To sum it up, my commute was 1.5 hrs to 2 hrs to and from work and I worked 12.5 hrs... that is a 14 to 14.5 hr day. 1/3 of my paycheck went towards federal taxes, state taxes, social security, Medicare taxes, medical insurance and State disability insurance. 1/3 of my paycheck went towards my retirement (401K, 403B, Roth IRA, and company pension plan). 1/3 of my paycheck went towards all other expenses such as mortgage, homeowner's insurance, food, fuel, car insurance, car maintenance, home maintenance, clothing, gas & electric, cable TV, cell phone, entertainment, property tax, car registration [$400 a year], emergency savings and several more items. So, what could my husband and I afford and meet our financial goals, retirement goals and pay our bills making $240,000 a year in San Diego, California? We could afford a 2br 1,000 sq ft condo with monthly Association dues about $400/month. We could only afford to by used cars. No going out to restaurants except once or twice a year. No vacations or travel. Our property tax was frozen at the rate it was when the condo was purchased in 1992 ($2,500). However, when we sold the condo in 2020... the new owner has to pay $6,500 in property tax a year. My friend purchased an old 2,200 sq ft house in San Diego for $980,000 (average price) in 2021. Her property tax is $11,000 a year on top of her mortgage payment. Why are people leaving California? The cost of living. The crime rate is astronomical. People are allowed to squat down and take a shit on your doorstep, have sex on your sidewalk, shoot up heroin and toss their HIV and Hep C infected syringes on your lawn for your kids to step on and get infected. Meanwhile, California is giving "free healthcare", food stamps, housing assistance or free housing and prepaid cell phones to illegal aliens. Basically, you work your ass off and are taxed to pay for other people to not work.

[@Belnick6666]

If I were ever moving to USA, it would be Texas, but never Austin

[@trey1sandoval]

Nobody cares

[@katttmandoo]

I care, I read your comment, I appreciate your thoughts even if they’re different from mine 🙂

[@Lucas6l5]

I care as well and read your comment, I respect your take on this and have a blessed day, also Trey why so rude on a channel where we typically all get along

[@Lucas6l5]

@@katttmandoo that was really nice of you by the way, it's amazing to see people like you

[@gotham61]

On income of $100,000 you will pay an effective federal tax rate of 15%, and in California a state tax rate of a little under 10%, for a total of about 24.8%. But this doesn't include a myriad of exemptions and deductions which will lower your tax bill considerably. When comparing US and UK taxes, it's important to remember that consumption taxes are much lower in the US than in the UK. In the UK you pay 20% VAT on almost everything, while in California the sales tax is 7.25%.

[@dannytse8767]

Sales tax depends on location. Different cities/towns will have different rates. The town where I live have an increase on the ballot for this coming Tuesday's election. I have a feeling it will be approved....we are talking about 10% sales tax.

[@anangrytexan2244]

Wish they would have chosen a different state than mine. All these transplants are putting a HELL of a strain on our current infrastructure.

[@cshubs]

They also drive up real estate prices, like they did to Denver!!

[@josecarbajal5710]

Im going to san Antonio

[@anangrytexan2244]

@@josecarbajal5710 Please don't. We are full. Our cost of living has skyrocketed and the traffic is the worst I've seen in the state outside of Austin.

[@josecarbajal5710]

@@anangrytexan2244 imma camp outside your pad...neh jk

[@bigplanett]

@@anangrytexan2244 you've never driven in Houston then. Try driving around in rush hour and you'll never complain about San Antonio traffic again. Trust me.

[@anissasoots2623]

I really love California. I live in central California. It is expensive but a little more affordable than other than other places in Cali. I got lucky though and bought my almost 1700 sq ft house for $164k in 2009. Paying a around a little under $1000 month for mortgage, tax and insurance. Now a house this size is going for about $450-500k and to rent a house this size would be about $2k-$2500 month. That hurts. But I am less than 2hrs from the ocean and just about the same to the mountains. L.A. is about 5 hours or so south. We need more public housing. In my area we don’t have public housing at all. Literally none. Public transit is also an issue in my area. A car is mandatory. But where I live it is more agricultural. I live in a city of 70k people so it’s not tiny. A ton of people in my area commute to the bay and that is a couple of hours each way. Ugh. I think the fact Cali is trying to be environmentally friendly is a good thing. Like when I went back to Indiana and realized they don’t recycle and don’t bring their own reusable bags to shop seems so bizarre. I like California. There is a lot to do, very diverse, lots of good food. Where I live it is not as diverse as LA area. My friend lives in Anaheim and I am blown away by all the different ethnic foods. And Texas is getting expensive, especially around Plano. What used to cost about $150k is now around $400k. Btw. You take taxes away there will be more bitching about the roadways, public schools, etc. nothing is free. And Joe Rogan is a douche! Who cares if he leaves.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

Recycling doesn't work. It's a scam.

[@ClayLoomis1958]

Hell, the condo's in my complex in Arroyo Grande are only 1200 square feet, but the last one that sold went for over half a million. No ocean view or nothing! I only paid $117,000 for this rascal 20 years ago. Real Estate is always a wise investment.

[@michelleanderson8370]

I'm Canadian but traveled constantly for my job so have spent time in all larger CA cities. My 1st experience with homelessness was in SF and it stunned me into immobility...literally stepping over bodies, including families with children, that were sleeping on the sidewalks. I just sat there and cried

[@diannen4225]

It's horrible that we don't take care of each other. I haven't had teeth for three years and only eat peanut butter and jelly sandwich's. And just 1 a day, all I can afford. I feel so sad no one will help me get a decent diet. I feel their pain of not caring about another human. 😓

[@aikeuchi1175]

Yes I have seen pics of that in SF. Used needles, human faces just out on the sidewalks. Its not just people without jobs or those with medical issues turned out to the streets because they don't have health care, these are people who have jobs but the pay vs cost of living forces them to live in cars or on the street.

[@justawhisperintheuniverse8257]

I've been to SF a few times and the homeless situation is heartbreaking. However, the homeless there are so aggressive! They'll yell at you in the streets and even harass you in restaurants. I guess that's something to look forward to on my next trip out there in January.

[@michelleanderson8370]

@@ClayLoomis1958 what a foul mouthed piece of work you are

[@ClayLoomis1958]

Michelle, you can delete your response to me, but you know I still see it, right? You don't have to like me, but you do need to accept there are other opinions.

[@kimharding2246]

I blame the state government… passing quick fix laws that are detrimental in the long run. Now, folks in states like Florida and Texas are worried that those people who voted those laws in, and left because it made it unlivable there, will start to vote the same way and make a shambles out of those states, too.

[@trey1sandoval]

I hope they do honestly

[@Kataxu]

@@trey1sandoval why, exactly?

[@bigplanett]

This diatribe is getting old. 🤦‍♂️

[@PoorMan972]

The result of one-party government. Being a Republican in California is functionally a waste of time. Dems have permacontrol of the Assembly.

[@mastiffmom2592]

@@bigplanett what is your take on it?

[@sherryheim5504]

I am a native of California and I chose to leave because of no longer feeling safe there. I was born in Los Angeles and as a child, live in what would be called semi-rural neighborhoods which would now be considered as rural. We all had little mini farms with a few medium sized animals (sheep, goats), chickens, geese, dogs, cats and perhaps a horse or donkey or two, depending on how large of an area we devoted to crops. My family mostly had a few vegetable gardens on the property, fruit and nut trees and some grassy areas for all of us to play. Everyone had chickens and some had geese to control bugs in the gardens. The cost of living wasn't as big of a deal for me because salaries were much higher than they were elsewhere and because I was a native, I knew where to find less expensive housing that was not generally advertised. I lived in cute little cottages or guest houses that I learned about through word of mouth. Many people don't want to rent to the general public because they don't want their properties trashed or lived in by people with substance abuse problems, etc. so they just put the word out to friends and I found housing that way. Gasoline is expensive in California but since I was not a homeowner, I could live near where I worked so other than driving for entertainment, everything was right in my neighborhood. The political climate in the state was pretty much guaranteeing that there were problems on the horizon so I left my home state to find a place where I felt safer. The reality is that crime, homelessness, drug problems and the dog eat dog attitude in the workplace is just a wave that started in the big cities and it is now coming to just about everywhere else in the country. There is no escaping it unless you are willing to build an off-grid homestead somewhere out in the wilderness and even then, I would not be foolish enough to believe that there would not still be a threat out there. Then there is that constant uneasiness of knowing there is going to be another huge earthquake, and not having any idea when it will strike and not knowing how bad it will be and what your status will be in the aftermath. Add to that raging fires, droughts, floods, mudslides and killer bees, and California, no matter its beauty and nearly perfect weather, loses a lot of its appeal for me. Skid Row is just one of the huge homeless pockets in Los Angeles, at this point, there are homeless encampments on every main street, in front of businesses, making it undesirable to shop in those places, every vacant business, house or lot will have a homeless camp moved in or moving there in the very near future. Even here in Albuquerque, you cannot go down any street without seeing a homeless camp and most of the alleyways are blocked as they have been taken over with homeless tents, shopping carts and makeshift shelters. Human waste, discarded needles and trash are a constant issue with these places. The police don't even bother with them anymore even though they do present a health risk. The only way to make California more affordable would be for people who own property to take a huge loss on it since they paid premium dollar when they purchased it. Why would anyone be interested in letting go of their nest egg? Food used to be cheap there because it is grown or raised there but when other states are willing to pay more for the products, the products will either go to them or the price will become the same in California. I don't see California becoming cheaper to live, I see it doing the opposite. In Los Angeles, there are so many job opportunities that people will continue to live there, no matter the problems. If California wants to thrive again, the state is going to have to substantially lower corporate taxes and ease regulations on businesses. It is close to impossible to jump through all the hoops that California places on businesses.

[@mdsh00]

Lifelong Californian here who is not going anywhere. While I readily admit that California has it's problems, it's not that unique. Yes, cost of living and taxes are high, homlessness and crimes are issues here, but it isn't unique compared to other states which are often worse off on many of those metrics. One thing to keep understand is that people who are leaving are doing it either for politics or cost of living and tend to be very vocal in trying to justify to others and themselves why they left. All that being said, California continues to be an economic and cultural powerhouse with a GDP about to surpass Germany. And despite this "exodus" that people would have you believe, I can say personally say that almost every day I see at least one car from other states, including Texas which I see at least one per week.

[@aaronakamatt1747]

Another thing that wasn't mentioned here was crime. My family members that are from California told me that they couldn't leave anything out in their yard without it getting stolen. Granted there are a lot of places that have that problem, but they didn't live in La or SF. They were from northern California and this was back around 2013 and it's gotten much worse since then.

[@ClayLoomis1958]

Yeah, crime never happens where you live, right? California has almost 40 million people, more than all of Canada. Yeah, crime happens, but it doesn't happen much where I live in Pismo Beach.

[@ESUSAMEX]

The leaders in California want complete control over a person's life. They want the people to be forced to rely on the government for their needs. They also are making everything very expensive on purpose so that the residents are forced to join the government programs which are controlled by the government. Every resident in California pays federal income taxes, state income taxes, school taxes, city taxes and town taxes. Then there are sales taxes on every product a person needs to buy. The same thing is happening in NY State. I now reside in Florida and I now only must pay federal income tax, school tax and town taxes on my property. There is not income tax here in Florida or 8 other states.

[@hrussell9677]

I guess you haven’t kept on Republicans-who want to control women’s bodies, library book banning, trying to create a Christian nation, lack of gun control policies. They are god awful.

[@ESUSAMEX]

@@hrussell9677 Control women's bodies? No, I want to protect the baby inside the woman. The baby has rights. Moreover, as a man, I have an obligation to protect my child if my girlfriend gets pregnant. I find it funny that women want men to pay child support for their children, but then women claim men have no right to protect their child if the woman decides to murder said child. Women cannot have it both ways. Either the man must always protect their child or they don't. If women want the right to murder the children, then they cannot come after the men to fund the abortion and/or to take care for said children if the women change their little minds. Yep, we should ban all books that advocate for sexual contact between men and children. For example, a guy who raped children wrote a book how to get a child lover. In addition, any book aimed at confusing kids about their sex should also be banned. Kids under 12 should never read crap like that. Adults and older teens should be able to read whatever they want. But children should never even see books touching such topics. It is child abuse. On the gun issue, my right to self defense is written in the constitution. By the way, illegal guns are already illegal just like illegal drugs. But somehow criminals always find a way to procure them. Gun control laws only work on the people who willing to obey the laws in the first place. The day Americans give up their gun rights is the same day America begins to execute all criminals. And since that isn't going to happen because the Democrats do not even like throwing criminals in prison, Americans need to armed more than ever. My guns aren't going to hurt you if you behave yourself. If you, however, wish to misbehave, then you will have a problem. Be a good citizen and all will be fine. Christian nation? That's pure hogwash. It's crazy that liberals hate Christians, but always seen to love Muslims who murder women and gays just because of who they are. Women and gays have rights to live and to be happy, but liberals turn a blind eye to that fact and instead spew hatred at Christians. The liberal mindset is a crazy one: Kill innocent babies but fail to castigate the murderers who rape and destroy cities and societies. You need to rethink you political beliefs because they are incongruent.

[@smallsparry]

I was in San Diego and briefly LA this summer. I was SHOCKED at how much it changed in the last 15 years since my last visit. I could barely see the skyline thru the pollution. There were homeless camps in the middle of well, everywhere. It's a sh*thole now. I dont see myself ever going back. ***And w the GDP for CA as high as it is, there is no reason for this. Mismanagement and corruption are huge.

[@trevoran100]

Cali is beautiful and diverse, but it is most definitely expensive and most areas has bad crime..it’s not all peaches and cream. But with that being said there’s allot of peaceful neighborhoods, those being more and more expensive the safer you’re trying to live

[@corinnepmorrison1854]

Some areas are bad, but not all cities... It’s the politicians who are destroying my home state...😢 I left Southern California in 2005...and I won’t be moving back... I now live in an area that has no pollution... Clean air...no street lights and very little noise... Wide open space... I literally live “Home On the Range”...and I often see deer and antelope crossing our land...❤️

[@trevoran100]

@@corinnepmorrison1854 I’m trying to live life like that and even tho you can somewhat in Cali, I’d rather go elsewhere. My plan is to move out of the country to Norway but we’ll see how it works out..btw I’m glad you’ve got to find someplace you enjoy 🎉

[@corinnepmorrison1854]

@@trevoran100 I hope you find what you are looking for, Trevor... I lived in California from birth...until a few months before my 60th birthday... I was raised in a really good home...and taught gun safety from the time I was young... We have open carry where I now live...and this is absolutely the safest I have felt in my adult life... God bless you and all the people you love...❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@timothyreel716]

@@corinnepmorrison1854 Fuck those politicians to HELL!!!!!😡

[@KitsunesTrove]

I was born and raised in California. I'm still here, too, but I think about moving to another state a lot and I probably will eventually. It's just so expensive to live here. The cost of living is ridiculous and only getting higher. The quality of life has gone down too. There are still some nice areas, (of course, these places are also more expensive), but some of the places that used to be nice areas to live In, are not as great anymore. Also, state tax. Though we're probably not the only state with state tax. Still, add that to the price of everything else here, and it's just ridiculous. On a personal note, I hate the weather here. It's like summer year-round and it can be horrible. I love the cloudy and windy weather. Most of all, I absolutely love when it rains. Really, anything over 75 degrees Fahrenheit is too hot for me. We get a few nice colder days, but we can also get a heat wave in the middle of winter.

[@joemaydon7618]

I was born and raised in California and moved to Texas in 2018. My life improved drastically. There are so many reasons to move out of California. Oppressive regulations for businesses, Oppressive gun laws, high state taxes, high sales and property taxes. High cost of living (food, gas, etc.) The crime is rising, the drug and homeless crisis. All the good reasons to live in California are out weighed by the negative. I used to love going to San Francisco and L.A as a kid. Now those places are no go zones. Really sad to see what's happend to my home state.

[@michaeltnk1135]

I’d rather have a small home by the beach than a large home in the middle of some prairie

[@joemaydon7618]

@@michaeltnk1135 good for you. I'm just thankful I can afford a home at all.

[@TXKafir]

@@michaeltnk1135 Texas has a coastline.

[@jenniferarted3652]

We left about 4 years ago. At about 55, I realized we could never retire in CA, we had a huge mortgage that we would never be able to pay off. We also wanted a slower pace of living. We both work for a company that has locations all over the US. We wanted a small town but within commuting distance to work, shopping, medical where we could retire in 10 years. We sold our CA house & paid cash for our new one. No mortgage! We moved to a very small town in Montana and have never been happier. In CA, my 9 mile drive to work took 35 min, husbands 22 mile drive was 1hr, 20 min. Traffic, crime, political climate, homelessness, taxes….

[@realfloridaredneck1988]

I'm with you there Texan, my home state of Florida has become over run with interstate migrants. The wages are still lower than the national average, but the cost of living is getting insane. Fortunately our gas prices ain't that bad, and we still have a 0% state income tax, but if they keep bringing their politics with them, I fear that our state will turn into an uninhabitable cesspool like California is today.

[@TexasOutrider]

For California earning $1,000,000.00; Federal Income Tax 37%, Social Security/Medicare 2.35%, State Income Tax 12.3%, and a city income tax of 0.38% for a total tax on income of 52.03%. So, of your million-dollar salary you get to take home $479,700. Add to that an 8.63% sales tax, a 1.18% property tax on the overpriced value of your house, a $0.539 per gallon tax on gasoline, and the list goes on.

[@PapaEli-pz8ff]

WOW!

[@CinesterCharlie]

"Why not lower the cost of living for the everyday person?" That's cute. I was born in California and I'll never go back.

[@annfrost3323]

Yeah. sounded immature. But time heals inexperience.

[@gilligan1350]

People always look at income taxes, but they most often do not consider the many other taxes that we pay. If you take into account state and local sales taxes on everything you buy, property taxes embedded into rent, payroll taxes that get embedded into labor costs throughout the entire production process in every product, gift taxes, use taxes, sin taxes, inheritance taxes, etc then regular Americans pay taxes of nearly half of what they bring in.

[@melk6049]

In LA we dont judge distances by distance but by time. We always refer to how long it will take u to get to ur destination and not how far it is bc thats almost irrelevant

[@dawn6320]

I moved BACK HOME TO ALABAMA after 20 years in California. Cost of Living RIDICULOUS!! AS a Nurse I made same per Hour when I moved back in 2013 along with about 40% less housing, Gas, food and Utilities. Living much better with great Rain storms and Greenery.

[@reneerollins4433]

Alabama the beautiful!

[@dawn6320]

@@Dave-hb7lx To each their own. Hope you are somewhere that Suits you Now.

[@hothead2924]

I left in 2017 I had been born and raised in Southern California couldn’t take the crime and expenses (including taxes) I moved to Washington state in a rural area

[@joeday4293]

I've spent my fair share of time in California. It is a beautiful, beautiful place. It is also a place damned to ruination by the people running it. I've marveled at the redwood forests, and I've watched my step for turds and needles on Haight Avenue. I've hiked Joshua Tree National Park, and I've paid $7.75 a gallon for the gas to get there. For years I've said that the state motto should be "Blessed by God, doomed by man." Here's just one number: There are an estimated 161,000 homeless people in California at present. Governor Gavin Newsom's new budget proposed $14 billion in homelessness expenditures. That comes out to a cost of nearly $87,000 per homeless person, paid for by California taxpayers, for people to remain homeless. That's more than the 2021 California median household income of $84,000. So every year, the state wastes the equivalent of an entire California family's yearly wages per homeless person to NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. To a normal person, that sum spent just once in one lump sum is enough to buy every homeless person in California a mobile home and stock it with clothes and food. But that's in the real world, not in the minds of the fruitcakes in the Sacramento statehouse.

[@marcieharreld286]

We have so many homeless because they come from other states where you can't survive the streets in winter!!!!

[@CrispyOkra]

It's not the people running California. It's the federal government that highly under funds Cali, while over funding poor red states. California taxpayers pay the most in federal taxes while receiving the least in funding. Per capita, California receives $12, while small poor red states that pay in the least, receive as much as over $10,000 per capita. While those in red scream that Cali is "the welfare state", Cali pays for their beloved red states' welfare 🤦‍♂.

[@joeday4293]

@@marcieharreld286 I know this fact from my years in Tucson. I used to call it "the bum Riviera," because so many homeless seemed to "winter" there.

[@marcieharreld286]

@@joeday4293 and they never go away...they just multiple!!😥😥

[@joeday4293]

@@CrispyOkra The city of Los Angeles spends enough money every year on the homeless to rent each of them an apartment and provide them each with food and healthcare benefits. You could literally buy each homeless person a place to live and fill his cupboards cheaper than you can pay for the homeless programs of just the city of Los Angeles alone. And yet the homeless problem is worse than it has ever been. Does California pay a lot of income tax to the federal government? Of course it does, it generates a lot of money. Does it take the money left over after that and waste it by the boxcar-load on nonsensical programs that don't do anything but line cronies' pockets? Absolutely. Congress has absolutely nothing to do with that. California has had its cannons pointed at its own decks for decades now.

[@seijunsejuki]

I live in Los Angeles and believe me when I tell you skid row is absolutely unreal. It looks like they're filming a post-apocalyptic movie there, except it's actual real life. The rest of the city isn't that much better. If you go to LA on vacation, avoid downtown at all costs. I've read that the homelessness is so high in Los Angeles, it's the equivalent of having the entire city of Denver Colorado living on the streets. It simply cannot be overstated or exaggerated.

[@lynn2574]

I grew up in California, and left 30 years ago. However, in recent years many of the friends and family I still had there have also moved. Currently, I know of several people wanting or planning to leave. I live in the PNW for the last 30 years, and we have also seen many ex-Californians move here.

[@davidterry6155]

My family in Northern California pay over $6 for their gas and here in Texas we are 1/2 that price

[@sarahlipman7337]

The cost of living in California varies a lot by location. The coast is crazy but inland the prices start to drop. The huge thing is taxes. CA has state taxes on top of federal taxes. Nevada and Texas and many of the other states they are mentioning do not have state taxes. Also, CA is very liberal at the government level some people are moving to states where conservatives run things because they are seen as more tax and business friendly.

[@sarahlipman7337]

@@Dave-hb7lx I live in CA and I’m not leaving. I love the ocean and the climate so I’m here for life.

[@susanfontaine5214]

I live in NY. I’m hearing the homeless situation is much worse than even NYC. I believe homeless are drawn there because its warm weather, liberal society, etc. Its very expensive and horrible traffic all the time. Huge differences in income, wealthiest with poorest!

[@josecarbajal5710]

Yea a while back they kicked out all the homeless from the santa ana riverbed by Disneyland...diaspora of these f*ckers. They even had like a secret lair on a storm drain with like 1000 stolen bikes

[@jeanbaptistevallee4500]

I drilled and own my own water well. The state now charges me for the water I take out of my well. They don`t know I drilled two holes.🙂

[@kristypickett4227]

That is crazy. They have to take something from everything

[@davidterry6155]

I’ve been in traffic in LA/Orange County where 5 miles was close to 2 hours. In rush hour I wouldn’t expect it to be less 60 minutes (that’s 100% being generous). I’ve been in Labor Day weekend (Friday afternoon) “in San Francisco” traffic where we went less 100 yards in an hour. I know this for a fact since we could only stare at a billboard that had a clock on it when we were merging to get on the Oakland Bay Bridge. The normal under 90 minute drive was over 6 hours. In Sacramento depends on what road and what time, it could be 45-75 minutes. Possibly 2 hours for an accident

[@creinicke1000]

There are tons of places in CA that are filth.. no it would not be safe. But my daughter's family lives in CA, she's far from these areas. But I wish her family could move but her hubby works in a family owned company and he has a big extended family, but they have to spend 1.5 million for just an average home.

[@evannelson4203]

Yes Kabir, I'm pretty sure your metrics say that your audience would eat this video up. Just remember to take things with a grain of salt. Many grains of salt, actually.

[@tomhalla426]

Federal taxes are separate from state income taxes, and state taxes are capped as a deduction on Federal income taxes. Then there are sales and property taxes.

[@ladykristalginn6]

I live in Oklahoma. Many of our patients have recently moved here from California. Without fail, every one of them have told me that politics is the main reason why they left. Some have also said the cost of everything, the homelessness, and crime.

[@ladykristalginn6]

@@Dave-hb7lx I'm not sure where you got those stats. I live in Oklahoma City, and I would definitely know if we had a high murder rate. Oklahomans are very friendly in general, and our friendliness and more family-friendly atmosphere are some of the things that bring people here. Statististically, Oklahoma frequently makes the unhealthy people lists, so there may be something in that. We have our problems, but Oklahoma is a great state overall.

[@ClayLoomis1958]

From Newsweek: Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt, a Republican, and his Democratic challenger, Joy Hofmeister, faced off in a debate last Wednesday, October 19. During the event, Hofmeister accused the governor of not doing his homework and allowing the release of inmates who went on to commit violent crimes. "The fact is, the rates of violent crime are higher in Oklahoma under your watch than in New York and California. That's a fact," Hofmeister said. "It's not true," Stitt interjected as she spoke. He then asked the audience: "Oklahomans, do you believe that we have higher crime than New York or California? That's what she said." The FBI's definition of violent crime has four types of the most serious offenses: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault. A number of sources and analyses are available on crime records in the U.S., although none of them provide an exhaustive and up-to-date picture. A study released by Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank, found that the per capita murder rate in 2020 was higher in Oklahoma (7.25) than in New York (4.11 per capita) and California (5.59 per capita). Oklahoma's violent crime rate is 458.58 offenses per 100,000 people, according to an analysis of FBI data by World Population Review. New York has a violent crime rate of 363.76 per 100,000 people, while California's rate is 442.05 per 100,000 people. Yeah, you can keep Oklahoma.

[@charlesbrown4483]

@@Dave-hb7lx Oh who would’ve guessed, a tribal hit piece from “The Hill.” I live in Lexington, KY. The murder rate was rising significantly long before Gorton became mayor. In fact, the murder rate was rising annually every single year of Jim Gray’s time in office, the previous mayor who served from 2011-2019 and is a staunch democrat. Oh and before Jim Gray it was Jim Newberry, another staunch democrat who was mayor from 2006-2011, during that time guess what was still going up? You guess it, the homicide rate! Woohoo! It’s almost like the hit piece you’re referencing might be fudging the facts a little bit to push a narrative to it’s gullible audience. When in reality, a rapidly growing, highly diverse college city will certainly have increased crime rates as the population grows. Wow, crazy how that works huh?!

[@prischm5462]

Like most major cities, California is run by Democrats, which is the tax and spend party. It would help if Californians and residents of major cities wised up and voted Republican. It certainly wouldn't solve all problems but it would be a start.

[@dixonoliver2360]

I wouldn’t even blame homelessness there on strictly poverty, because the reality is California is probably the dream place for a homeless person in the US to live (There’s been interviews conducted with homeless people there to which a lot respond they came to California bc of all the factors that make homelessness “easy” there)

[@historyking9984]

Exactly. Just try like Hawaii. Most of the homeless are actually from out of state. It’s because there’s more problems in other states that they come to California.

[@dorisbruun1034]

California also has a major water problem.a major water problem.

[@jessicatobin7785]

Property values have increased by 28% here in San Antonio, TX, over the past 3 years!!

[@timothysmith7368]

As a man who has worked with taxes, different states have different policies. There is the Federal Withholding tax that everyone pays (unless you're rich enough to afford great accountants). Then some states have their own withholding taxes (all but nine states have withholding tax). On top of that, some states also have a county and/or city tax. In Pennsylvania, you'll pay both federal and state withholding, then you also have EIT (Earned Income Tax) and LST (Local Sales Tax) on top of both federal and state withholding. EIT is paid in the county where you work, and LST is paid in the county where you live. Then there's also sales tax at the state, county, and city levels as well (you would call it a VAT tax). This is just one reason why I live in Florida. There is no state withholding here, and we are one of the freest, if not THE freest, state in the country. Sure, "Florida Man" gets a bad rap, but a lot of that has to do with the laws governing what the media can and can't report about crimes. Here the media has more freedom, therefore you get more reports of really f'd up things happening in the state, even though we aren't much different, per capita, than other states. The one good thing about "Florida Man" is that is makes us seem crazier than we really are, and that means most people don't mess with us, because most people are pussies. I hope that helps explain our tax system a little better, and I apologize if I went off on too much of a politicalesque rant.

[@Robert-dq1yg]

We have too many people in California I honestly don’t care if people leave. California’s industries are strong enough to sustain the city in the long term.

[@dannytse8767]

California is projected to become the 4th biggest economy in the world next year, surpassing that of Germany.

[@terrigaines1812]

What city?

[@TexasOutrider]

One of the reasons California will have a difficult time reducing housing costs is the geography of the major cities. Most of the major cities like LA, San Francisco and San Diego exist on a coastal shelf blocked from the inland region either by mountains or water. There simply is a limited amount of land to build on, so as demand goes up so do prices. Texas cities differ in that they have few geographic constraints to growth. As demand increases there is land to build on to meet that demand. Property in prime locations of Texas cites will be more expensive but affordable housing will be built in the periphery areas. The issue for Texas will be to provide transportation infrastructure to service these new homes, but as major companies relocate they have the opportunity to build on less expensive land in the suburban areas, reducing the demand on transportation systems.

[@spaceshiplewis]

My parents left California and moved back to my dad's home state. They moved because the taxes, the air quality due to the fires, but mostly because the job market has changed so much. It is NOT the same California that people grew up in that had big tech, Hollywood, and big corporate jobs that California was famous for. Times change, especially now. Big office buildings are not needed close proximity to everything is not needed anymore. Big Tech focuses on paid services instead of software and hardware. People are moving out, but at the same time, my parents got over quadruple the money for what they bought the house for from selling their house. So there are people who are still buying houses for a lot of money to live in California (I don't know why). Crime wasn't ever a problem for my parents, and they lived in a town outside Oakland. Barely needed to even lock the doors. Things have changed in San Francisco. Last time I was in San Francisco back in the Obama years, I, a disabled student, would regularly walk through San Francisco's dangerous Tenderloin area, and nothing would happen. American news is always dramatic and should be taken with a pinch of chill pill. The news sensationalizes a lot of the bad parts of a targeted area when really there is a lot of nice people and nice peaceful areas. California is just a big target. Same with Texas where the loudest and rudest people are also the small few in terms of the voices of Texas. I get why people would leave but the reasons aren't as dramatic as the fear mongers say. Here's the thing, EVERYONE knew that the bubble would burst and it did, a while ago. But the bubble sort of is just deflating and was not a burst. This is because California is not a country, if it were a country, it would have gone the way Greece did when their money suddenly became useless in 2009. The US dollar wasn't actually hugely affected by California's Big Tech and Hollywood's change in focus. All that air is probably going right into Silicon Valley and and it also probably will burst again but sooner and at that time it will again not completely sink the state. That's probably one of the biggest benefits of being the United States.

[@gusb232]

Ive lived in California near LA all my life, Hard to see myself ever leaving for good , But its great that some people are leaving, Still its not hurting CA's GDP , there are still people coming here so the population still increased in 2020 and last two years it only lost a fraction of a percent. So its a bit over blown We could afford to loose more people , Still we are one of the only states to that has a budget surplus just about every year. Also I believe effective tax rates are higher in UK, but its complex there are many tax loopholes in the US and it depend how you made your money, there is no state tax on capital gains in CA or most states, and theoretically you could pay zero federal tax if people gift you money.

[@authorpgbadzey5775]

Hi Kabir. I live in California and as the video says, it's complicated. The high cost of living and excessive taxes are certainly factors, as are the very stressful commutes. The homeless situation is very bad in some places and many of the people are mentally ill but are not being treated. The worst part, imho, is the state government. We have had one-party rule by the Democrats for decades and they seem to be more focused on social issues like genderism and climate change than on improving the quality of life for the average citizen. Recently, the legislature passed a law (that was signed by the governor) that seeks to punish doctors if they give advice to their own patients that contradicts the "prevailing wisdom" of the medical establishment. This is overtly authoritarian on its face (not to mention unconstitutional) but no one in Sacramento seems to care. The local media are usually in cahoots with the ruling party and don't tolerate dissenting viewpoints. Under such conditions, is it any surprise that people are leaving? The state still has many good and kind people but the overall environment is not good and I don't blame them for going elsewhere. I might join them... And yes, the state tax is only part of it. You have to add on federal and local taxes as well as fees and sales taxes. It added up quickly.

[@authorpgbadzey5775]

@@Dave-hb7lx I'm well aware of the tax structure in other states. I have relatives who live in them. If I'm really looking at the "whole picture", as you say, I'd not only look at taxes but also at quality of life, state government, the social atmosphere, and other things like crime and education that have nothing to do with taxes. In making those comparisons in a logical manner, California doesn't add up any more, no matter how nice the weather is. If that were not true, then hundreds of thousands of people wouldn't per fleeing the state for those greener pastures. But they are, and I think it is because the whole picture isn't good.

[@christianoliver3572]

Here in texas some areas have been hit harder as far as rent increases or rise in cost to purchase a house. Most areas haven't increased much with the exception of the Austin metro area, the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, and to a lesser extent the Houston Metro area. But in most of these areas it's not necessarily a bad thing because we can build more houses, apartments, condos etc fairly rapidly. It's not like this is the first time that we've had population booms caused by other states being sort of crappy and too damn expensive and it won't be the last. In the short term it can have a negative effect on locals here because for a short time it can price some folks out of neighborhoods where they might want to buy but in the long run the prices will fall and income will rise so places seem more affordable.

[@dhfyrydjfjd]

Born and raised second generation Californian here! They didn't say how many people MOVE here every year. Our 60 year old tract home is going for over $1,000,000 at the moment. It's insane. Homelessness is out of control. But we have awesome weather 🌞, beach ⛱️, mountains ⛰️ & desert 🏜 within an hour or two of each other. I've been in almost every state, they all have nice & beautiful places. California alone has Yosemite National Park, Joshua Tree National Park, Death Valley National Park and more! Mariposa where the Mariposa Grove of Giant Sequoias is! You HAVE to visit those trees. So there is bad & good everywhere no doubt. But I hope to never leave here & be born raised & buried here in my home town of San Diego California. Love your show!♡♡♡

[@hannah3250]

They are moving to Georgia, Tennessee, Texas. I think it’s estimated that in Nashville, TN alone, 100 people move there every day.

[@dandillinger23]

I for one enjoy California! … From Arizona that is!!

[@SAGE_Dust]

☝😆😅😂🤣🤭

[@Wyndigayle]

It boggles my mind. So many people have moved from California to Texas, seemingly because of the lack of state taxes in Texas. But the minimum wage is still $7.25/hr, and we have our own homelessness problems and cost of living issues (due to the low minimum wage). It was already difficult, though not impossible, to thrive unless you were earning a better than living wage. Now, with the influx of people moving into the state, the cost of housing has skyrocketed, making it more difficult to find affordable housing (for pre-existing residents AND new ones). I'm sure the statistics are out there somewhere, but I would hazard to guess that comparatively, cost of living is very similar in California and Texas. It makes no sense to me. Ten years ago, as someone in their early 40's and earning about $10/hr, it was a feasible goal to own a home in the near future. Now, in my near mid-50's, I don't see it ever happening unless I can find a position that will pay at least $20/hr. That's near impossible without a degree anymore. I will die in a rented home, never fulfilling my dream of having my own. And I will never retire. I wouldn't be able to support myself if I did. In 10-15 years, when most people were at the age of considering retirement not that long ago, there may be no government support for retirement left, even though I've paid into an account for that specific purpose since I was 16 years old The future is bleak, my friends.

[@zeged34]

You know raising minimum wages also raised prices right?

[@Wyndigayle]

@@zeged34 Yes. That's why I said 'comparatively'. ;)

[@WestValleyTransparency]

It's not just opportunity and cost of living...its also greater individual liberty, as well.

[@wompa70]

Almost a thousand of my coworkers moved from California to Texas when the company HQ moved. We still have research and development in CA. We have people all over the world.

[@joeday4293]

A vendor of mine in a previous industry relocated from California to Tennessee, and offered to move every single employee. The warehouse/logistics staff was almost exclusively Latino, and they were skeptical, mainly based on fears that Tennessee was no place for brown people. That lasted until the first staff went out to lay the groundwork, including the Latino vice president of logistics and the Latino logistics manager, who came back raving about the place - "It's so beautiful! And the people are so nice! And everything is so CHEAP! Look how cheap houses are in this newspaper!" Something like 95% of the entire payroll picked up and moved with the company. There were dozens of working- and middle-class employees who were able to sell their houses in California, pay cash for their new houses in Tennessee, AND pocket some change at the end. That's before you tally up the lower costs of living, reduced taxes and fees, and a thousand other expenses. That company move actually created new generational wealth for many people in the blink of an eye, simply by relocating out of California.

[@negf22]

They were referring to just state tax, there is federal, state and local taxes.

[@leannm1696]

I live in Northern California and I'd never want to move. I don't make a lot of money but I live within my means so its manageable. All of the negatives are very true but quality of life is great. Excellent weather, diverse cultures, phenomenal fresh foods and if you drive a couple of hours in any direction you have ocean, mountains or desert. I'd not live in blazing hot, humid Texas if I was given a house for free.

[@Alex-dh2cx]

I mean, the only positive you've mentioned specifically is weather. I'm really struggling to understand what quality of life benefits I'd see in Northern California over anywhere else that's not in the boonies of the Midwest. As far as weather goes Nevada has decent weather, Texas isn't that bad most of the year just a hot summer, Delaware is great, Florida and South Carolina are a bit humid in the summer but it doesn't feel as hot as Texas and is great year round, and New England has 4 beautiful seasons. I don't get what California offers that beats any of those other places, other than it just being your home that you're fond of, which is a normal feeling but it's not enough to convince people to move there.

[@leannm1696]

@@Alex-dh2cx I understand what you're saying, I really do love living here. I was trying to say that even with the high prices my quality of life is great and I don't make a lot of money so living here is doable. I'm from here but grew up in Oklahoma and I just can't hack the humidity. It's just wonderful to have a slight chill in the air on a summer night and not be burning up at 11:00 at night. And the local fruit and vegetables are amazing. Everywhere has good food but it just seems amazing here.

[@Alex-dh2cx]

@@leannm1696 nothing wrong with that feeling, glad to hear your personal quality of life is good. Hopefully the California state government as a whole can figure out the major issues driving people to leave before it has a major impact on its economy.

[@leannm1696]

@@Alex-dh2cx Absolutely hope for same thing. Love that state but not the politics for sure 🙂

[@BeauBauerFF]

It's just getting crazy here in California. Alot of our Government Officials think that raising the cost of everything will help solve the homeless crisis we're going through, but it's just making the situation worse instead of better. I love California with all my heart, but unfortunately I too am looking into moving to another State. I don't see the situation being resolved any time soon and that extra money I'll be saving on rent will really come in handy.

[@shantereed]

I left California in 2020. It was so bad you couldn’t even take uhaul trucks out of state. I moved from Sacramento to Houston and paid about 6k. I am a Georgia native. When I moved to California for my job in 2013. I rented a one bedroom for $770 that same apartment now is almost 2k with no washer/dryer in unit. I bought a condo in 2015 for 138k. Sold in 2020 for 238k now it’s value today is 330k. I enjoyed my time there though.

[@Atochabsh]

YOu left when we did and we had the same issue. We had to drive to Reno to rent a one way rental van to get our immediate household to our new location.

[@mattturner6017]

Resident of Arizona here. I am acquainted with many people who are refugees from California. They left because of the overcrowding and cost of living, but one or two of them mentioned that a bonus is getting away from too much bureaucracy and excessively burdensome laws.

[@twylanaythias]

There's a reason "Hotel California" is surging up the playlists - California has gone out of its way to torpedo its own interests. For over a year, it's been to the point that moving truck companies have been offering discounts as steep as 85% on rentals going *TO* California because they have literally run out of trucks to rent! The two main things which built up California in the first place were Hollywood and several gold rushes. Hollywood mainly because there was a ton of cheap open land available for the fledgling film industry but, as covered by the video, land is simply too expensive because there are too many people trying to crowd into the area. And the gold rushes are long since over. And while California gloats about its agriculture, it's in the middle of a freaking desert and can only exist by stealing water from other states - as is, Lake Mead is close to drying up. The biggest nail in California's coffin is its 'sanctuary' status - inviting illegal aliens who (between their illegal status and general lack of English) are a burden on social systems while offering little to no benefit to the State. More to the point they create a glut of cheap labor, suppressing wages and forcing even multi-income households into poverty and potential homelessness. California talks a big game but their $15/hr minimum wage does more harm than good, leading to accelerated automation. To paraphrase a line from Cat Ballou, "Automation costs more money and effort than it's worth - inflating the minimum wage makes it worthwhile." I honestly don't see any hope for California unless and until the State as a whole swings hard to the right and fast. Personal moves generally have about six months of lead time, smaller business moves around fifteen months, and corporation moves around two years - even if California could and did fix everything immediately, the exodus would continue at least another full year before it started to abate.

[@TheMajorActual]

I grew up in California. I left in 1990, and haven't looked beck, since, because I saw this coming in the mid-80's.

[@monicapdx]

Well, at least they seem to have slowed down on moving to Oregon when they leave. As our governor in 1971 said, 'Come visit us again and again. This is a state of excitement. But for heaven's sake, don't come here to live'.

[@IsThisThePrizeIveWaitedFor]

I just wanted to chirp in that I’ve lived in CA my whole life and I love it here. I would stay here unless forced to move. The weather is great and I love the diversity. Because of the diversity, you can get amazing authentic foods from all over the world. It’s expensive yes, but there’s a reason it’s expensive. If not one wanted to live here, it would be a lot cheaper.

[@williampilling2168]

Victor Davis Hanson has a great video about this called The Two States of California. He highlights things like, the state is 1/7th of the US population, but has 1/2 of the nation's food stamp recipients, but also the highest number of Billionaires. The state has 5 of the 10 best ranked tech colleges in the world, but regularly places in the bottom 20% for public education.

[@Senaleb]

I was a Bay Area resident from 76 to 04. I couldn't deal with it anymore. The traffic and overcrowding and crime made it unbearable. I moved up to eastern oregon and its been fantastic, but even I have seen some homeless matriculating up here. No party wants to seem to deal with it. Just keep inviting more and more people into the country and forget about the americans already here.

[@PenelopeFrank]

As a Californian all my life, this really kills me. It’s freaking scary. It’s BS. Being so darn rich, the disparity of income is getting worse and worse. Very rich and dirt poor. Middle class carry the burden for all and one little bump (medical, family emergency, loss of job or projects if self employed, etc) and they’re dropped into poverty. Which is nearly impossible to climb out of, due to the system set up. Lots of free support for dirt poor but no safety net for working poor. You have liquidate any savings before you get government assistance.

[@david-1775]

The Covid regulations that San Francisco put in place caused half of all small businesses to shut down for good. Many of the giant corporations got government handouts and were allowed to remain open.

[@PenelopeFrank]

@@david-1775 Yeah, that’s why I supported big handouts for the regular folks so they could spend that money back into their own communities. Paying their rent too, instead of the referendum. But nope, let the super rich take it all for themselves.

[@TB-tr3cm]

Two sides to every argument. This video makes it seem like a clear-cut case . . . suggesting that nobody would want to live in California. These scenes that you are groaning about -- can be found in every state in the U.S. I'm an East Coaster living in Northern California -- for me the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. Great weather, cultural diversity, and economic opportunity. And, yes, blue politically, which is important to some. Since time began, people seem to always find that the grass is greener on the other side. People need to find what works for them -- if people don't like it -- I wouldn't blame them for moving. Certain factors are more important for certain people. Nothing is perfect. No location is perfect. I think that people can make a happy life for themselves, no matter where they live.

[@ronharris8669]

The state government is the problem, Taxes and it’s common sense and why pay taxes when you don’t have to pay taxes.

[@ranger-1214]

I live in Oklahoma and have worked some in California off & on, plus have family there although some have moved out now. In the NE part when I worked there in the 90's it was nice but already getting way over-regulated. My last stint was a year-and-a-half in the San Diego area in 2012-13. Now we were massively over-regulated with long permitting delays, numerous regulatory districts all wanting money, excessive cost of everything, influx of inspectors needing to write violations for anything "because the state needs money and we're not allowed to give warnings anymore - only violations." Traffic was horrendous, add in crime and homelessness, etc., that others have said. My family still in Cali are the young ones who have grown up there and don't know any better; the elders have moved to Oklahoma, Kansas or Texas. However, some of the other folks moving out and into middle-America seem to have forgotten who and what got them into those problems and want to vote that same idiocy into office again.

[@HRConsultant_Jeff]

I have lived in California most of my 67 years. Many of my friends and family moved to other states as soon as they retired. There are 2 big problems that are truly affecting California. One is we have a Governor who wants to run for President so every chance he gets, he enacts new laws that go above and beyond the rest of the country so we have the most expensive cars, fuel, electricity, etc. in the nation. Second, ruling party completely ignores 1/2 of the state. Almost all money and attention goes to only 3 cities in the State and nothing of substance goes to about 2/3 of the State so those people leave. Businesses are continually villainized, yet he says we are business friendly. Obviously not if large businesses and agriculture are leaving in large numbers. The only segment of the population that is growing is people who do not speak the language, migrating legally and illegally and people moving because the handouts are better here. The middle class is almost all gone.

[@israelmartinez9473]

Exactly why time is a measurement of distance in Southern California. 5 miles in southwest Riverside County, during rush hour? I'd say about 40 mins. That same distance at midnight? 3 mins

[@danajohnson4757]

Yep!! California's are moving to Texas on droves, especially to Austin. We don't have a state income tax. I'm definitely worry about our cost of living rising too.

[@lone6718]

They have been rolling into Idaho for years. Now locals are finding it difficult to live in a trailer park, let alone rent an apartment or purchase a home. We just started getting raises to help with the cost of living sky rocketing.

[@johnwray393]

Here in North Carolina there's been a huge uptick of out of state plates most from Cali but also from other liberal states.

[@annfrost3323]

Same in Florida. Unfortunately.

[@13Jared]

I think that median home price figure is low for the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas. I'm not sure about Southern California but in the San Francisco Bay area you would be lucky to find anything under $1M. In addition to Federal, State and Property taxes there are also parcel taxes in some places.

[@peppermoon7485]

Reading the comments makes me feel better about living in my little hick town in the Midwest 😁

[@BrandonJXN2]

As a native Californian (born in the city of Los Angeles) , honestly good riddance to those that left or plan on leaving. I lived all over Socal as well as Arizona, Florida, and 5 years in Chicago. There is no place I would rather live than California. It's expensive. Ridiculously so. But there is plenty of opportunity here. You'll hear people not from California, move here for less than 5 years, then leave. That's been the rule forever. There are plenty of problems here. The homeless situation is out of control. It has gotten worse. But you cannot deny that California can be anything you want it to be. Trust me. Plus people who are moving out of California are moving to places not too dissimilar to California. Namely, Las Vegas, Arizona, and Texas. If they want to go, fine. California is my home. Love it to pieces.

[@LA80sMike]

This Angeleno born, agrees completely, every state has problems ours are magnified because it’s California, there’s still more transplants here than Californians in other states…I would never leave my city of angels

[@bigplanett]

Yep. Most are leaving because they can't afford it here, which I can respect or are Trumpers to which I say good riddance. Truth be told, if you can afford to live in a decent California suburb, there's no better living anywhere in the country.

[@BrandonJXN2]

@@LA80sMike That begs the question: who's really leaving? Native or transplants.

[@TXKafir]

Unfortunately, it all comes down to politics. The left has ruled California for decades and when one side rules like that, extreme things happen. So the left is very concerned about the environment so California has passed so many regulations around land development that few developers are willing to try. Thus, new housing construction doesn't keep up with demand and that drives the prices up. They also believe in "natural" forests so they don't allow the state to practice good forest management. Forest fires are normal in California but this lack of forest management makes them worse. The left is also very concerned about climate change, so they've been busy shutting down coal, gas, and nuclear power plants in the state, resulting in rolling blackouts. To make matters worse, they've mandated everyone drive an electric car. The left is also very concerned about homelessness and criminal justice. They've passed so many benefits for homeless people that it has acted as a magnet for the homeless from other states. California is also soft on crime so violent criminals are not locked up and shoplifting is causing lots of shops to either close or lock up all their merchandise. Compare this to states like Arizona and Nevada. In those, the left and right either share power or switch off ruling. This keeps extremes in check. In Texas and Florida, the right rules. Their extremes include very lax gun laws and restrictions on abortion. While those may make some decide not to live there, they don't destroy the economy or the quality of life. Until 1964, the left and right had to share power in nearly every state due to the way their state senates were constructed. A Supreme Court case changed all that, resulting in the partisan mess we have today.

[@TXKafir]

@@Dave-hb7lx I live in Texas and never received any communication to raise my thermostat to 78. I have also not experienced a blackout since the winter blast of 2021. As for violent crime, while the lax gun laws may contribute to that, policing is chiefly a local issue and the left runs Texas' biggest cities where most crime takes place. As for Citizens United, I'm OK with getting corporate money out of politics on two conditions: 1) We stop taxing and regulating corporations because that's what gives them the right to participate in government and 2) the ban includes big union money. As for gerrymandering, I'm just rolling my eyes. Both sides do it and if it was as bad as the left says, states would never change but they do. Florida used to be a swing state. Now, it's red. Colorado used to be red, now it's blue. Gerrymandering only helps so much. You still have to govern in a way that people like.

[@TXKafir]

@@Dave-hb7lx If you want more competitive districts, stopping gerrymandering is not the way to do it. The founders thought that House districts should have no more than 50K citizens each. Currently, they're about 700K apiece. Bring that down to even 250K and you likely won't have to worry about gerrymandering for a long while. Taxing corporations is just another way to tax people without telling them you're taxing them. Every person who shops at Walmart pays a few pennies toward Walmart's tax bill. That's just a fact. It's idiocy to believe that Walmart's accountants don't take that tax bill into account when planning the company's pricing and profits. I'd prefer a more transparent tax system so people could vote accordingly and corporations had no vote at all.

[@robtintelnot9107]

I saw this coming and got out almost 11 years ago. In Ohio I make as much from work and live at a far lesser cost.

[@trey1sandoval]

Yeah but u live in Ohio which is gross

[@branplore]

I'm glad on the east coast (mid-atlantic area) there are more options/cities/states to choose from to mitigate some of these problems mentioned. In Maryland in particular there are high wages cost of living is decent, more land in the baltimore metro and still just 3 hours away from 3 of the biggest major cities in the country. Plenty of opportunity and you could easily live in Pennsylvania or Delaware which has no state or local sales tax less than an hour away.

[@branplore]

@@Dave-hb7lx That's true but the salary made in a high wage state like Maryland with state tax included is still considerably better for the cost of living you can get in the states bordering it. PA, WV, Delaware, and VA is cheaper to live than MD with the tax/insurance benefits of living in those states. Maryland is not bad in itself nowhere near as expensive as California. I'm just saying to the point of the video there are more options in the mid atlantic instead of moving 1000s of miles away from CA you only need say 30-50 miles here or just another county within the same state could be cheaper. In retrospect I have met some new york city people who have moved down here to Maryland so kind of the same situation for them.

[@willantvan]

I go to university in Las Vegas and I can confirm my last 3 neighbors at my apartment have been Californian.

[@stellaandes759]

A lot of the homeless have jobs but not those that pay enough to afford housing and other living expenses. My brother in southern California said he could not find a studio apartment for under $2000. He had been living in motels. When he had the money to move into an apartment, he didn't have a rental history to qualify him to get an apartment. He finally found a one bedroom apartment for $2200. He earns over $53,000 per year, which is low income. I grew up there and we moved away for the last time in 1981. Utah, where we live now, is becoming so expensive because Californians sell their homes and move here, buying homes for less money.

[@barbaraswinford6677]

I live in California. We barely afford food, let alone being able to move. But dont worry. If I'm anything, I'm a survivor.

[@randykillman6475]

I am California born and raised and still live in what is known as the Silicon Valley due to working in a tech job. Cost of living is very high which is a deterrent for staying particularly in retirement. A bigger factor is political in nature. Management of the moneys the government requires and how it is used is interesting when schools do not have enough funds, roads and infrastructure need work and those who are not citizens get services that working citizens do not. The middle class seems to be carrying a heavy burden. Most people I know keep 50 - 60% of what they earn after taxes and insurances. This does not account for sales tax of 9 - 10% for everything you buy. Inflation is rising fast. For my last job I commuted for 14.5 miles taking about 30 to 45 minutes in the morning and longer at night. Now I am going even farther to work, 35 miles, but due to COVID I no longer go to the office every day. I have rented the same townhome for the last 16 years and the rent has more than doubled in the time. Two bedroom town house, $2000 per month. I used to be okay with the cost of living here for the benefits but now the benefits are not greater than the liabilities.

[@davidterry6155]

Here’s a real world example, Phil Mickelson was complaining of the high burden of taxes. He was paying 62% percent in overall taxes

[@dannytse8767]

Such a tough life....play golf for a living. Is that even a sport?

[@catbutte4770]

There are still affordable homes in California, but the homes are more inland. If you don't mind the extreme temps of living inland, and having to drive hours in traffic. . .(hopefully you can have a remote job) then it's okay. Otherwise, ugh, the prices are high for a decent home. The higher price for home here is due to the fact that people from other states come to Ca for the weather or for the jobs (high tech jobs). Many of my friends come from either New York City, New York State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, or New Jersey. When I asked them why they came (or why their parents moved to CA) they said the same thing, they moved here for the weather. ☀😎 I, on the other hand, wanted to live in a place that was cold & rainy. I was thinking about Seattle, Washington or Portland, Oregon but settled on San Francisco (where it's almost always Autumn here ). 😻

[@wendellgee11]

The San Antonio and hill country area in Texas has had a lot of Californians moving in. We don't have a state tax. The immigration from California has driven our prices up a bit. In SA, we're having hard time keeping up with building homes. The Austin area is having a homeless issue now because of the hike in rent since the migration, as well as the hill country. If you're "grandfathered" in on your property tax, it's cheap; I am and my property tax for a 3 bedroom is 1,300/year=about 120/month. I'm a lucky one. Veterans in texas are tax exempt. So, we not only have Californians coming, we have retired vets, and retirees too.

[@Jml416]

Just to clarify your statement on veteran's taxes....Not all veterans are exempt, only disabled vets. I'm a vet and my taxes are 100% minus homestead exemption.

[@wendellgee11]

@@Jml416 I was misinformed, thank you. The tax laws in every state are so complicated.