Britain's Niqab: Should it be worn in the UK?

Jackie Long debates the wearing of the niqab with a panel including writer Shalina Litt, community activist Sahar Al-Faifi, writer Douglas Murray and Islam lecturer Khola Hasan.

[@stelianbirea5386]

Respect this country and its culture. It is not middle east here.

[@Razia10376]

Respect a person's right to dress modestly. If you want to strip a woman's clothing that she consider is something that is protecting her modesty than it is not the middle east, it is something way worse and you people shouldn’t be talking about women's rights, freedom or human rights around the world with this much gusto.

[@TMGold60]

we need to make the wearing of such garments as demoralising to women...

[@keithjohnson49]

@@Razia10376 Bigot. Respect works both ways. Respect the laws of the West and the UK if you want to live here. It's about integrating, not taking us over

[@story-ju9cu]

If you can't except the law of the country, leave​@@Razia10376

[@arunsar7893]

@@Razia10376 "Respect a person's right to dress modestly." - Dressing like a ninja is not dressing "modestly". It's madness.

[@catherinehezelgrave8440]

THEY have no concern for our country they simply do as they like its sickening!!!

[@georgecarlinn6288]

🤣🤣 200 years ago people felt same about British in India

[@catherinehezelgrave8440]

@georgecarlinn6288 The difference is we left this lot are only here for benefits etc also they are convinced they will rule the world!!! They should be living in a Islamic state they are nothing but, RELIGOUS FANATICAL LUNATICS!!!!!

[@Pawel-rv1ek]

@@georgecarlinn6288 It's not 200 years ago.

[@Daniel-gg8lj]

@@georgecarlinn6288 Then let's send these muslims to India.

[@lilyannal5159]

They are most ungraceful group of people on earth.

[@ursulascholten7438]

Ban it, it's ridiculous. Britain is not the Orient. They can wear what they want in their own countries, but not in Britain or in any other Western countries. It's disrespectful to our rules and values. They should leave.

[@utubesanjay]

Ahem. Orients are not Muslim. Its Middle-East.

[@dr.kishorkumar7695]

If France and Switzerland can ban it why can't Britain ?

[@user-kd3ic6do5n]

Because Britain prefers complete subjugation to their culture. It's not a question of integration, our political masters have sold out to Islam because they like the power it gives them over the people. Just my opinion of course 😉

[@Noneofyourbusiness-dp5gu]

No because they care more about being called a racist than their country national security

[@revertnicolas5977]

Britain are weaker than us (France). But even France are weak, so thats sad for Britain.

[@ramakrishnandoraiswamy1614]

vote bank politics. they cast vote en-block. it matters when they constitute 10-15% of electorate

[@emptyhad2571]

Because it’s stupid it’s a western country where you have the right to wear whatever you want. It’s freedom and UK has a duty to uphold that no matter what.

[@thewatcher633]

As a woman in my late 60s, I just despair that there are young educated women that actually want to dress like this and make arguments in favour of something so ridiculous. It's beyond sad.

[@vjamesg100]

Agree

[@Kayemith774]

As a woman 60 a Muslim I answer to God , the in the way I dress, and so why do you feel the need to trample over me and my religious freedoms ? Do you get upset about boobs pouring out of bras, and butt bare and showing it All or skirts so short they are mistaken for blouses ? . Please don't attempt to bend over in your Corporate offices . See in society it's such the norm that when you don't see boobs and butts you get ticked off

[@Xxxfallen_angelxxX]

I also despair women running around half naked trying to sell that wh*ring around is empowering

[@PsyOps404]

Just because you’ve spent your life uncovered and been the object of many people’s wondering obsession’s and gazing eyes it does not mean everybody wants to live their life like that.

[@paulspittel1924]

What a ridiculous comment

[@elephantwanderer6576]

No, you live in Britain, you follow our laws!!💯💯💯

[@wardenclyffe2875]

and the laws are freedom of religion...

[@taherehvahid-olivier4545]

😊👍👍👍 absolutely

[@militaotavares]

😅😅

[@rouguiyatoubangoura2471]

They would not allow u to do what u want in their country. Believe me

[@flip-phone_becky4655]

I bet they wouldn't allow men to wear a niqab.

[@dusanlonco4448]

NO - it should not be worn and nowhere in all of Europe. Point.

[@paultucker152]

France , Denmark, Switzerland, have band it and so should we time to stand up and protect our country and culture

[@cansuStBenoit]

Turkey had banned it in 00’s before the arrive of Erdoğan and that decision made Turkey more conservative and cause to the lost the laic gouvernement to Erdogan… Banning something that you dont want to see is the stupidest thing its gonna react like epidemic. Banning something is giving the power to it. i think UK dealing that subject with more dignity . Banning something make the country much miserable

[@TheBestCat1290]

'protect out country and culture'. Pathetic that your culture is SO FRAGILE that a woman dressing modestly could destroy your culture.

[@ZaydDepaor]

Islam and Muslims have been part of British and European society, culture and history for centuries, whether you like it or not.

[@sussiefabo4046]

​@@ZaydDepaor absolutely agree

[@sussiefabo4046]

Protect "ur" country from wht people who cover them self's up because they feel comfortable in the way they dress

[@JoeBlowUK]

As a motorcyclist, I am very often refused to be served at a petrol station, unless I remove my helmet. This is so I can be identified in case I try to drive off without paying. In this country, it is offensive to walk around with your face covered. If a man walked into a bank with a balaclava on, it would be assumed he was about to commit a robbery. Respect British values, or bog off.

[@NAStheNomad]

They are still required to remove their niqab as and when needed so this isn’t a valid argument.

[@mandypinkney5949]

​@@NAStheNomadTROLL!

[@NAStheNomad]

@@mandypinkney5949 it’s easy to chant “troll” then admit you’re wrong but what I have said is a fact. If not, prove otherwise or be quiet.

[@ionaleah]

Would saudi allow changes in their country. You muslim want your laws every where you go its not right you are in uk either you live by their british laws. Not saudi laws

[@angelp4724]

100!

[@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv]

If your face can’t be seen, you’re regarded as someone who has bad intentions or about to do a crime. There’s a reason why criminals cover their faces or wear masks.

[@basil9633]

?????

[@abderrahmanlahiaouni9172]

I can't believe there is someone saying this while no one ever is questioned for having a medical mask on (which was almost everyone these last years and still) that leaves only eyes visible

[@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv]

@@abderrahmanlahiaouni9172 be logical. A medical facemask doesn’t cover your entire head or your entire face. You can still be recognized even wearing a medical facemask. Have you seen a robber wearing a medical facemask in disguise? A medical facemask that’s akin to a burqa doesn’t exist. What a lame argument.

[@Aksarallah]

just admit you want to see their faces

[@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv]

@@Aksarallah and what’s wrong with seeing their faces? A normal person would want to see the face of the person he/she’s talking to or the persons around to identify them. And it’s for comfort or security purposes and not for perverted reasons like what you’re trying to insinuate.

[@arthurmackrell8154]

NO. I had a Doctor tell me the results of my tests in Hospital. It was one of these Guinness Bottles, I couldn't understand a word she said, I kept asking her questions, but just couldn't understand her. I asked 2 of the Nurses who were with her, 1 man, 1 woman, and they couldn't understand her either. It was another 6 months before I got to speak to someone who could give me my results. She should never have been in the NHS, and in any case she should be made to wear the same uniform as other Doctors in our Country.

[@caroledowie1773]

This is precisely why these face coverings should not be allowed.

[@Bilal-op6rt]

Could you not understand her or did you decide to not be able to understand her.

[@caroledowie1773]

@@Bilal-op6rt No, I could not understand her. In any case, the wearing of such clothing has no place in Britain and should be banned.

[@alphathealphiliate]

Guinness bottles 🤯 That’s haram, bro 😂

[@TheBestCat1290]

@@caroledowie1773 Why you commenting? You are not the original commenter. It looks like you have made several accounts and are spreading false information but you forgot to switch to the arthur account

[@marioncampbell2156]

Thank God for Douglas Murray. A gentleman not afraid of the truth. What a pity he isnt the PM

[@amandahudson2038]

Don’t vritisice you hosts luv, bug off

[@amandahudson2038]

She is a hypocrite

[@amandahudson2038]

Bye bye. Enjoy rwanda

[@alphathealphiliate]

“Let us be open and engaging” she says with her face completely covered

[@ToniT0268]

Well don't ask me to engage with just a slit revealing two eyes. Just seeing them on the screen all in black, even down to the gloves, is intimidating enough. What does Black signify to the western world - death, black magic and the underworld. :(

[@Aesberg]

wow almost like she didn't mean it physically

[@michaelwakeford2336]

Brilliant point.

[@user-ko3rl4vw6c]

Islam is open only if you play along with them

[@michelleqs78]

“You have nothing to fear?” Anyone remember one of the London bombers escaping the uk wearing his sister’s ninja outfit? If you don’t like our laws and culture, you should leave. This is as bad as people that identify as pot plants and enforce the use of their Mickey Mouse pronounce.

[@scarfhs1]

I agreed with the woman in the black Niqab, but I disagreed with the woman in the black Niqab and the woman in the black Niqab didn't know what she was talking about. Fortunately the woman in the black Niqab made a great point.

[@whyshouldwecare3267]

That joke would work better if one of them wasnt in a grey niqab.

[@michaelknight4369]

Personally, I found the woman in the Black Niqab rude and ill-tempered.

[@vijaypadala2291]

YOU NAILED IT!!!!!!!

[@kayladrawstoomuch2632]

CigarSmoke&StoreBrandCola are you color blind

[@deniseg-hill1730]

fred smith hahaha right on

[@christophekennis3599]

There is nothing in the Quran that suggests wearing stuff like that. Even Muslims from Lebanon know this..

[@skrrskrr505]

It's too bad the sane muslims have to live in fear from their extremist brethren and aren't allowed to pass on a version of Islam more compatible with freedom and democracy. These people should be leading the Muslim communities in the west and these islamist weirdos should go live where everyone thinks and believes as they do.

[@sussiefabo4046]

So wht is niqab abt then

[@christophekennis3599]

@@sussiefabo4046 Dunno, but the Druze from Lebanon only talk about protecting or hiding genitals. Maybe things might have mixed up with the years and different interpretations.

[@user-fz7ur8qp5h]

How do we know they are who they say they are?????

[@kimandkats]

In this climate where terrorism and radicalization are at high possibility, looking at someone and not knowing who they are is highly stressful. I never understood why theses people wanted to leave their country to come to the UK without being willing to assimilate.

[@sloeberdoet]

For the benefits only.

[@colleenmonfross4283]

Well said.

[@alanc6781]

Because when Mohamed died in the year 632 he instructed all faithful to INVADE, DESTROY AND DOMINATE SO THAT ISLAM RULES THE WORLD. And that is what all these Muslim "refugees" and "immigrants" are doing. Invasion by stealth. And that is why they never go to another Muslim country.

[@truthmerchant1]

Their intention is to subvert our culture and outbreed us and take over. Their ideology teaches that,

[@brandyhaywood6256]

They want to take over the west and introduce sharia rule.

[@Humanity2013]

When a religion dictates certain things and their followers are required to follow the rules and they are happy to do so, they should go and do it in their own countries. Not in Uk

[@PsyOps404]

The U.K. colonised half of the world and did what they wanted in the countries they colonised. The majority of people who practise wearing niqab were born here so be a good citizen and mind your own business. The U.K. professes its a secular and democratic country, well these people aren’t telling you how to dress or live your live so shut up and get on with your life.

[@Humanity2013]

@@PsyOps404 😂😂😂

[@ecnalms851]

​@@PsyOps404 It is a perfectly natural response to feel wary of people wearing niqab and want it banned because it makes the person wearing it anonymous - it hides their identity to everyone interacting with them. The same cannot be said for the hijab, you can still see the person's face. If niqab was banned, UK would still be one of the best countries for religious freedom. Compare to other countries like Islamic ones, in Saudi Arabia you can't practice any other religion except Islam publicly and other religious buildings such as Christian churches are banned. Overall point, UK is secular and there is big religious freedom - however, there must be balance and if most of the population feels unsafe because of the niqab then it is perfectly acceptable for it to be banned.

[@alanc6781]

As I understand it, there is nothing in the Quran about it. It was decreed some years ago by some Mullah or something and has become part of their culture. Anyway, women are second class to the extremists who control them. Slightly higher in status than a dog. Just possessions. Supposedly, wearing the tent, etc, stops them from inflaming the passions of men.

[@Eskisie]

@@PsyOps404 So did Portuguese, Spanish, Asian, Arabs, Chinese, and, any other civilizations before them, and that doesn't mean anyone should disrespect the country that gives these people another chance in life.

[@keithedwards689]

No it shouldn't. If you choose to wear it then go to another country. Sick of seeing these people hiding their faces. It being 'normal' in East London is disgusting. If the law can say you have to wear a face mask then it can be law not to wear one. British society says we show our faces .. I don't know if I'm right or not but this is Britain. If we don't stand up to these people then our country is lost.

[@sussiefabo4046]

"Our" country wht exactly have u done for this country and if u say ur ancestor fought in the war ,many Muslims served the British arm as well so as much this is ur country its the Muslims to so u should re consider wht u call urs

[@cyberlizardcouk]

most communication is non-verbal, but most of that non-verbal is facial. also, full coverings are a major security risk.

[@valerieilayev3373]

Douglas is a legend!!! The embidiment of England!! Let him lead the country!

[@jahsonlion]

Yh a nation of homosexuals

[@user-bf6hd6hu1m]

He's not a legend, he's a sneering, hate filled, racist.

[@janeburke147]

He is 👍🏻

[@user-bf6hd6hu1m]

He isn't.@@janeburke147

[@andrewdrummond1244]

He is a son of the Scottish Hebrides.

[@chrisreynolds3351]

Majority do not mind Hijabs (headscarves) and especially the younger generation who are so creative with their designs. But the majority strongly object to face veils. Do you know that face veils have been used by terrorist men and murders to escape being identified.

[@keifer7813]

So have face masks. Should face masks be banned too?

[@EviMlcak]

Hijabs are nice. I like those.

[@stuarthardy3070]

​@keifer7813 they are in courts and important places . This is stone age stuff.

[@keifer7813]

@@stuarthardy3070 Face veils are already banned in courts and other important places

[@poppedicat1270]

why cant they just accept the culture they immigrated in? they want to live like they couldve in their homeland, but dont want to live in their homeland.

[@Alice-kq9li]

As humans we communicate through facial expression and its really weird to cover women up because men cant control themselves

[@MuhammadIsmail-ii6yc]

As a liberated ex-Muslim, i find the real irony being that these and other women who share their views exploit the virtues and freedoms of British democracy to openly practice, propagate and express their religious allegiance to an ideology, the law of which, if they had their way, would replace the existing constitution and remove many of the freedoms they have exploited to argue their case.

[@sheherezad9]

Oh yes

[@irene4633]

Well said

[@plainspeaking6297]

They are just making a point "look at me", they are radicals end of!

[@billjones642]

exactly

[@truthisbitter7086]

same to you. double standard

[@user-qy9rt9cy2b]

Douglas Murray talks more sense than any one in the government good luck sir be safe 👍

[@angelawallismoore2283]

Agreed. I am concerned for his safety because he is saying what most of us are thinking, but the volatile section of society would probably like to do him harm.

[@daveknight957]

He's an intelligent and truthful speaker on many many subjects; and I've never known him to be untruthful on anything.

[@arthurmackrell8154]

It's like a Coven of Witches in the studio!! If you work in the NHS, etc you should wear the same uniform as everyone else - no deviation.

[@alisonholland7531]

My family is 100% Anglo Saxon - we are also Muslims and have been for THREE generations - Dad was born and raised in Bootle Merseyside and Mum was from the town of Roslin near Edinburgh and we moved to Australia when I was eleven. I have NEVER worn a hijab (except at the Masjid I wear an abaya and a scarf) or the niqab and definitely not,nor will I ever,wear a burqa! My sisters on the other hand chose to wear the hijab but none of their daughters (my daughters either) have chosen to and everyone is totally ok with that. My dad and grandad ALWAYS said that the women in our family would not EVER be forced to cover,even though it IS desirable, it is 100% a matter between a woman and Allah (SWT). Surah Al Baquara states there is NO compulsion in religion and any fears that non Muslim women have that they could be forced to adopt to Islamic dress is ludicrous and any Muslim even suggesting that they should is deliberately misinterpreting the Qur'an and trying to impose THEIR more hard core beliefs onto non Muslims and that is Haram! Not permissable! I am highly amused when new female reverts (not realising I was born a Muslim) try to lecture me about becoming a Muslim and tell me that to be a successful Muslim I HAVE to become an hijabi and that I SHOULD adopt a name like Ayesha, Khadijah, Fatima,none of that is true - all they see is blonde hair,blue eyes,fair skin and normal every day attire,they lecture me about making my Shahada (did that when I was thirteen) and often tell me I'm obviously "not ready" to embrace Islam 🤷🏼‍♀️ and I'm no spring chicken I can tell you so these young ladies think they are "saving" some poor old lost lady. My husband is 100% Aussie born and bred,he reverted to Islam many, many years ago and when I first met him I had one heck of a job convincing him that him becoming a Muslim did NOT mean he had to embrace being an "Arab" (that's no disrespect to my many Arabic friends). The amount of girls I've met (men too) who will ditch their birth name alarms me - don't know how many guys my brothers' became friends with who changed their name to Yusuf or Bilal or Issa - when there is NO requirement to reject your birth name so guys, if you revert (convert) keep your own names like Chris or Sam or Justin. My brother's names are Jim and Gordon. I'm going to stick my neck out *ouch* and say to people contemplating embracing Islam THINK.VERY. CAREFULLY about what you're doing! If you're coming into Islam expecting you can mistreat your wife, withhold money,control her life and be the "boss" you're barking (excuse the expression) up the wrong tree. Maybe some Muslims from other countries have a CULTURAL advantage over their women folk (take countries for example where FGM is practiced by BOTH major religions as it's cultural not religious) you will be sadly mistaken and deeply disappointed - my Dad used to say a Muslim man only opens his mouth for two reasons - to eat and to pray - PLEASE don't be taken by the idea you can (as a Muslim man) get away with being ab*sive to your wife and kids - because you don't want to run into a group of sisters protecting one of their own (it's brutal). For most Muslim women they love wearing the scarf,it is their way of identifying as a servant of Allah (SWT) and it makes them feel safe and protected. It makes no difference to me but I would NEVER disrespect or judge sisters who do cover. You be surprised at how many Muslim women and girls you pass on the street never knowing that they are. Be wary of the ones who are delusional but please just remember just because I say Allah (SWT) and you say Yahweh or Jehovah the three words honour the one God - and NO! We Muslims have NO authority to try to force our way of life or our beliefs on others.

[@ashsgirl]

This was really interesting to read! I'm not a Muslim but I'm glad there are some people out there who think you can keep your culture and name after converting to a new religion. It really annoys me how Muslims want everyone to act, dress and talk like Arabs and even speak Arabic when, in fact, they are far from being Arabs. I like diversity; it would be really boring if everyone had the same traditional Christian, Muslim or Jewish names.

[@nadiawahedy9639]

As a Muslim hijabi, I have to wholeheartedly agree with this, because this is the TRUTH!! Thank you so much for taking the time to write this 💖💖

[@groundzero5708]

lol so you are guys buying up hotels and housing immigrants .be ready get rekt

[@groundzero5708]

@@nadiawahedy9639 lol far away from the truth

[@groundzero5708]

i was a white muslim mylsef . but i left islam in 2023 .

[@lunapuella2611]

In her late 70s my mum became afraid to do her own shopping because she was loudly accused of being racist in a supermarket when she refused to be served by a lady in a veil. She was deaf and could only lipread. Her explanation was rejected by the supervisor. Her self confidence was stripped away and she never went anywhere alone again for fear of it happening again.

[@allykatharvey]

How dreadful. We should be safe in our own country. This is a Christian country, Islam has no place here.

[@jaz3023]

So sorry - she absolutely deserved better in her own country 😡 This particular religion is ......well misogynistic is a mild way of saying what needs to be said ...anti Western....WHY are they here??? PLEASE go to countries of your own faith, and stop OFFENDING US!!!

[@Razia10376]

She was recist though, wasn’t she? But we should ignore people of their bigoted ways if they are old. I generally ignore such a people, but It's hard to when you're just doing your job but people disrespecting you not because of your behaviour or the way you served them but the way you dressed, you didn’t dressed inappropriately or anything, you hiding hiding your own body parts for modesty's sake is the problem of another, why so? Me personally would still be polite and give them the servers they want, but It's hard generate sympathy.

[@Razia10376]

She wants to strip away another's clothing but in return, her self confidence was stripped away by being accused of something she was, I don’t know what to feel about that.

[@jaz3023]

@afsanaaktar1037 It is essential to NOT cover your face when in public roles - you live in the uk I presume - not Iran - you can return to an Islamic country if you don't like the West. How offensive muslims are.

[@whateverwhoever9613]

And let's not forget that this is Britain. We as a majority should dictate the rules that we find socially acceptable, we should not be dictated to by any religion or culture.

[@movienut]

Well said.

[@JinSakai_Kuroudo]

you forget who the majority is, they populate like rabbits just to win majority

[@rishabh8355]

Stay strong- allowing one will open flood gates you cannot contain, see the mass killings and libraries being burnt in Europe- they thought they can reform them and assimilate but no islamists don't assimilate. That religion has just one purpose to eliminate all others and not by peaceful persuasion by killing, murdering and more. Most of the proponents of islam here are pakistani stooges masquerading as Sikhs (a religion within India who fought Islam for hundreds of years) and had to go through inhuman slaughter of their Gurus (equivalent of Pope if not Christ) by the same Islamic rulers within the subcontinent. And it's not like todays muslim don't wanna identify with those barbaric rulers, they instead praise them- name their missiles and teach school kids about them to become like them some day so that their terrorist religion can be spread throughout the world and all jews, hindus, christians, and other non muslims are killed if they don't convert by the judgement day . Remember these people are not like germans who atleast acknowledge Hitler as evil and reformed- islam don't allow reform and books of hadith follow strict rules for society - if you don't believe go visit Afghanistan yourself and see how many women are free to do as they please or even allow education in today's taliban regime.

[@turtleisland1492]

Deport

[@jennifs6868]

exactly as the muslim nations dictate to anyone living within their national borders.

[@Falloulla]

I have a respect for the lady in headscarf in the panel. She said to the lady covered in the audience to not only talk about her rights but to also talk about her responsibility towards society. I think she said muslims are being hated because of this before she was cut off.

[@inezrussell3814]

Absolutely not. I find it offensive, taking women back to medieval times.

[@stephenhaitako4665]

"There is something fundamentally ludicrous about someone dressed like you are, talking the language of modern human rights." Thanks, Douglas Murray!

[@judithglasser3072]

This is ridiculous, why are you living like in a medieval time warp. You sound like a Brit,how can I talk to you, I don't even know if it is you behind that cloth speaking! Insane...

[@wahmad8211]

Why should their rights not be respected. I don't understand these western values that talk about freedom but not the freedom of people to follow their religion

[@davidevans916]

@@wahmad8211we are better than you, deal with it. Don’t like it, leave.

[@wahmad8211]

@@davidevans916 i think many would go back to their countries had the uk and usa along with some corrupt local leaders not destroyed their chances of a better democratic nation.

[@wahmad8211]

@@davidevans916 I respect you for being honest about your racist views i really do. Many people just act racist while saying they believe in equality

[@natpaler883]

As a woman do I talk about my human rights being dressed as I want when I come to Saudi Arabia?

[@NAStheNomad]

So you’re asking, why we don’t behave like a murderous dictatorship like Saudi that only just allowed its women to drive? This is a serious question?

[@brouettesylvie8077]

bearing in mind the Saudis have relaxed their laws on female dress.

[@laurahunter3675]

Saudi Arabia is a total different country to the uk You should respect the laws there As the uk is so different and multi cultured with many religions.People are free to express and dress the way they choose in the uk Not all countries have the same laws and some have more freedom such as the western society

[@NAStheNomad]

When we compare ourselves to a 3rd world dictatorship, it doesn’t set the bar very high now, does it?

[@BigAndyG]

@@laurahunter3675a total different country my rear entry... The difference being that Saudi Arabia publicly flogs anybody who is different.. preventing it being a different country.

[@mohsens22]

It's 2024, and we are seeing more niqab wearing people in the UK and less of these conversations and debates in media. That's worrying.

[@miasewell1958]

No there’s an intolerance for any other Religions apart from Islam in Islamic society

[@fionastevens5551]

Yes ban it outdoors. Wear it in private.

[@tula1433]

If they can wear the hijab in the UK then I should be able to wear a mini skirt and bikini top in their country without any issue and carry a Bible around! True “equality” and “diversity” that they claim to want!

[@abusufiyan9089]

Bikini is something else, but yes, you can wear a nun outfit and carry a Bible openly. I myself studied in a Catholic school (grammar) under some respectful nuns in Pakistan, so your point is not valid

[@joannasuccess]

You are right.

[@aarthisoundararajan1479]

Exactly! Wearing a hijab is mentioned as their personal choice in a non-Islamic country, but choosing to dress as we prefer is unacceptable in Islamic countries!!! Hypocrisy at its bestz

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@abusufiyan9089 I'm a woman in my 60's and you definitely wouldn't want to see me in a bikini 👙 🥴🤣

[@abusufiyan9089]

I neither want to see any women in bikini nor judge them by their looks or sexualize them. It's the words and personality that matter And by something else, I mean it's not related to religion or dress code

[@BA-wj1mn]

I am a muslim and i am also afraid to see these letter boxes

[@sana-helwa-ya-jamil]

There's no reason to shun fellow muslims just because they choose to display modesty in a way you don't approve of

[@fruityheejin9564]

ittaquillah

[@sarahjones7239]

Douglas Murray Legend!’ Why come to the UK if you want to wear it move to a Muslim state NOT a Christian one!’ I wouldn’t move to Middle East if I wanted to walk around at night when women are not allowed out

[@az-yq3rk]

Here it is 13 years later and still the cultures don't get along. Keep them seperate, UK for Western culture and Middle East for their culture.

[@Lilly-hh9es]

Just look at how aggresive those ninjas are. Absurd

[@az-yq3rk]

@@Lilly-hh9es who said anything about aggression? YOU

[@Ghreinos]

@@az-yq3rk The Muslims are the Ninjas and they are just aggresive

[@Deeviah1]

@@Lilly-hh9es please they r peaceful why are you accusing them they r victims 🤪

[@MiladaKaiser]

Give them a freedom to wear niqab - but only at home. Not in the street. In the street the face and the facial expression has to be visible. It is 90% of communication.

[@askosefamerve]

I agree for the veil, not for the hijab. Hijab can be worn without covering your face.

[@Razia10376]

Ironically only at home they do not wear the Hizab. Also who are you to allow or disallow what a woman should wear, what she shouldn’t? Walking around naked is something civilized in your country but modesty and full clothing isn't? I am sorry to inform you, in that case your country isn't civilised in any way. Also, you are not a police or a security officer, if a security officer asked to see her face, a muslim woman would show her face. Also curious, did you ever felt the need to strip people from their medical mask during Covid? For security reasons ofcaurse.

[@lunapuella2611]

@afsanaaktar1037 you accused my deaf mother under my comment of racism because she needed to lipread and requested an assistant without a veil, so i want to answer this question about covid masks. The deaf community requested that people serving customers be provided with transparent masks. In some (not enough) instances this was done. Had my mother been alive during that time and could not see through a mask to lipread she would have requested a person with a transparent mask to serve her if possible, and if it was not possible she would have been unable to communicate, just as she was when faced with an assistant wearing a veil. That would have happened regardless of the race of the person. Before you scream racism in all cases try thinking.

[@MiladaKaiser]

@@Razia10376 Please, do not move to the country which you consider uncivilized. And do not start to teach us here “ your civilization”. Stay home. And wear your mask at home.

[@MiladaKaiser]

@@Razia10376 You are right. Our values are totally incompatible. So - please stay in your culture if you cannot accept different value. Go back home and wear your niqab there.

[@jjohnjason8811]

Sorry, I didn't catch the names, who is who again?

[@suevignola4432]

Who cares, can't tell them apart anyway!

[@kl.johnny2232]

When IN Rome, DO!!! as the Romans do. When IN Britain, DO!!! as the British do.

[@Mc___1994]

If "the veil " is normal in East London, it shows how far we've fallen.

[@citrawardani7106]

what?? you really said that? what a ridicolous opinion. you should see, just compare it between a woman who wear niqab being fully covered and a woman that shows most of her skin, her body. who would you see as a woman with no sense of shameful? a woman should be concern at what she's wearing. if you learning something about Islam, you're gonna know how to dress properly. yes. wearing a niqab (veil) is not mandatory, it's sunnah, but it's part of the act of worship for muslim women.

[@Tracey-zr5do]

​@@citrawardani7106Do not be disrespectful to the rooted British people, this Country is not and never has been Islam. I respect Islam, but within its own homelands. The face covering may be suitable and respectful for your religion, but you are in Britain and this is not Islam. There is a saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do" meaning when you are in any other Country, you must abide by their way of life, traditions, values, morals and culture. You are right about our own Country and your observation of young women being scantily dressed, but the intentional poor education of our own and the 'agenda' allowing our own people to be dumbed down and under the influence of some very low military grade 'mind manipulation/control' both in person and online, through specific programming is no doubt responsible for the last 30 years in which this de- programming of Britain has influenced and corrupted our younger generations to a sad level in many situations, part of the bigger agenda 100%! But the fact is, Britain is not Islam, and the face coverings are not acceptable in Britain. It is right that the previous comment showed concern. I respect all rooted people within their own homelands, when they are in mine, or I in theirs, then the each others Country and way of life is to be respected completely. God bless you 🙏

[@nasihahihi]

yeah YOUVE fallen. simply respect it, we’re not hurting anyone??

[@lizzieh5284]

@@Tracey-zr5do Couldn't have said it better myself.

[@FredLimestone]

Then go to Saudi and do..... @@citrawardani7106

[@darcyhouston]

I think of myself as a very liberal person, but I can't help to find a woman wearing a Niqab very creepy.

[@darcyhouston]

+Stars I do think that it would be difficult for a woman to be fully integrated into Western Society, if other people can't see her face. Their claim that they desire to be accepted into British life, seems disingenuous when they insist on making themselves less approachable.

[@darcyhouston]

+Stars I'm an Atheist, so I find all of these sectarian issues beyond my understanding, but I do realize that religious belief does exist, and it must somehow be managed, until education and access to information will reduce the relative numbers of worshipers. Although in the mean time couldn't devout Muslim woman wear the Hijab? So their bodies could be completely covered, with just the face showing.

[@AAWT]

+Darcy Houston That's because as a liberal person, you don't like symbols of oppression. The niqab is an expression of the same mentality that punishes women for being raped.

[@blackmore4]

+Darcy Houston I remember when I was about 6 being taken to Harrods toy department and in walk three niquab wearing / tent wearing women with their kids. Totally freaked me out. A couple of other younger kids - about 4 - started crying. I still think what the fuck but now I also see, in the back of my mind, a bloody great swastika.

[@axxowiz2105]

+Darcy Houston This is what happens when a party is more concerned about getting votes rather than what's best for the country. The labour party wants the muslim vote they will support the burka simply on that basis alone.

[@Octave31]

Why they do not live in a muslim country ?

[@DoodiePunk]

The visa is not easy.

[@hamlet557]

@@DoodiePunk because islamic countries know how to deal with extremists. They hate them more than we do.

[@user-hh2vw6td3r]

@@DoodiePunk I always encourage young Muslim couples I meet to have many, many children because I want their kids` generation to be the first one in the UK where Muslins outnumber non-Muslims. Then least we`ll get all the betting shops in the high street closed down. And the best quality coffee and fruit juices served in a traditional English country pub`.

[@Real-jc6gs]

​@@user-hh2vw6td3rLower the taxes and people will have more kids

[@judithmorales1356]

I think that a ban of FACE coverings of persons entering the public square including government sponsored schools, hospitals, motor vehicles, etc. should be prohibited if the host country doesn’t want it. Impose laws that prohibit face coverings in the public square. If I travel to a Muslim country, I cannot dress anyway I want. The same cultural norms applies everywhere. Respect the country you have immigrated to or where born into. It’s their country and you have the privilege of living there. If the laws restrict your beliefs, you have the option to live elsewhere that accepts your cultural beliefs. Who are you to impose your way of life on the country you’re living in?

[@pennylane9155]

Family photos must create a lot of memories!

[@Mun7]

They don't wear it in front of the family educate urself

[@gunterra1]

@@Mun7 - That was meant as a joke, stupid.

[@shtotyme]

Especially if it's a family with lots of girls. I just don't get why these people come to the UK if they want to practice Islam, go to IRAN, go to SYRIA, leave the UK!!!

[@yesenochwasRIGHT]

😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅

[@seggiekistan3057]

😂

[@karensnowball2351]

At my daughter's school, young girls were allowed to wear all this headgear, even in the gym. I'm sure if this headgear had got caught up in the gym equipment, there would be uproar from the misguided parents. Incidentally, no other girl is allowed to wear even a small pair of earrings, for safety reasons. Are we pandering or what?

[@PsyOps404]

I read your comment and then your name and it all made sense,

[@user-gs9tb4tl4d]

​@@PsyOps404oh you can read. Good news. 😂

[@PsyOps404]

@@user-gs9tb4tl4d Why are you eyes so far apart? You could audition for the next the hills have eyes movie

[@Razia10376]

Just separate men and women Gym. In my college( It’s an Islamic country), in the Gym, men and women are separated by a partition. I heard a lot of incidents in the Gym, many incidents of rape, indecency, accusations were happening( particularly about women accusing men, staring at them, men accusing women wearing indecent clothing). Gym is a space that people do acrobatics and they should be able to do that in peace. It should have been separated in the first place. To answer your question, yes, it is pandering, but it is something that the girl's will be particularly grateful for, education/health or your faith isn’t something that a decent authority should put a person in. In my opinion, the girls should still not be authorized to use dangerous machinery where it could be hazardous and instructed to make sure nothing is hanging(Yes it's possible).

[@user-gs9tb4tl4d]

@@Razia10376 Just separate yourself from us please. We do not want you. Thanks.

[@thomasthomson2707]

If I wore a Ski mask walking into a Bank' Garage' Post office or any shop there would be an Armed response unit straight away 🤔

[@California265]

I thought hoodies were banned in shopping malls

[@remove574]

If you live in Britain, wear it indoors, not outside. It’s a country who doesn’t wear them, so respect OUR religion and culture. I was referring to the outfit that covers the whole face apart from their eyes. I don’t believe you should be allowed into banks etc where we are not allowed to wear helmets covering the face

[@remove574]

@Yoga Meditation NO, they do not respect our culture in Britain. Uncover the heads so we know who is in there.

[@remove574]

@Yoga Meditation faces definitely need to be uncovered but this is not the case always.

[@twobluebirds5647]

Yes! Ask them point blank, do they 'respect' Christianity! The semantics would be hilarious if the situation was not so serious. I honestly think that God will deal with this madness (i.e. read invasion), and send a plague of Biblical proportions upon the adherents of the religion of peace. And it will happen globally, everywhere. Just my thoughts, and thank you Douglas Murray!

[@LexlutherVII]

Lol, even many muslim countries banned it 😂

[@Mun7]

Does UK only have one religion? Isn't it secular country? What about those who's families are form uk but they are Muslims and wanna wear burka?

[@chrisreynolds3351]

The Quran only states that women should dress modestly. It does not say they should be completely veiled and only allowed to show their eyeballs. The veil is completely banned now in some countries like France.

[@neilrobinson5115]

It’s the male cheauvanists in there society that made that a thing to do,it’s a male dominated society in there world

[@marc-andrejobin7376]

When I see such an attire on a woman, I immediately see a VGG. This attire is very degrading and degrades women to only being a VGG. Poor mahometans.

[@LanielPhoto]

Even in some Muslim countries. Morocco bans the full head covering, and it is a Muslim country.

[@neilrobinson5115]

It should be here too,far too tolerant here

[@southendbos]

Correct. It’s a bastardization of the admonition to dress modestly. If you want to be in your culture, you should remain in the countries you feel at home.

[@angelcomet4345]

How do you run 50 meter dash?

[@Fomites]

Sports forbidden.

[@Mayysxm]

@@Fomites its not

[@LeonBerrange]

It's not about fear. It's about our cultural norms. It's just plain rude to ignore British values. If I go to a Muslim country, I wear appropriate clothes.

[@sunnyr2794]

“You’ve got nothing to fear from us” oh boy did that age well..

[@NAStheNomad]

So funny, how many ladies wearing the face covering have made you afraid? What attacks, crimes or atrocities did they perpetrate? 🤔

[@sunnyr2794]

@@NAStheNomad if that’s what you extracted from my statement, you should probably read it again. It’s not specifically related to the face covering (as much as I detest it), it’s more the ideology. Hope that’s clearer.

[@wjumeau]

Indeed. And now some of them are so deluded that they are calling for Sharia Law in a CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. They openly call for Intifada on the streets of The UK. An utter disgrace and not adapting to our laws or values.

[@whitehorses460]

yea, none of the terrorist attacks in the UK have anything to do with muslims

[@NAStheNomad]

@@FinalFailure-pk5mw they are very very few in relative numbers. Regardless, if one chooses to cover their face and it doesn’t involve banks, airports or other security, what’s the issue? What’s next, beanie hats?

[@rachelbailey52]

If i went on holiday to Dubai i wouldn't be allowed to wear shorts or a bikini on the beach. As much as i love to wear shorts in the summer i would be made to cover my legs up. I wouldn't get offended about it, i'd respect their law and culture.

[@uhidk18]

Did you go to Dubai there are white women running in bikinis in the street

[@dianecleary1054]

I wore a bikini and shorts in Dubai 40 years ago ! Never get drunk in an Islamic country.

[@DrBananaMr]

Then why don’t you as a British person want to respect your own laws and culture which say that you have religious freedom?

[@rachelbailey52]

@@DrBananaMr I was referring to the laws in Dubai.

[@DrBananaMr]

@@rachelbailey52 the thing is you go to Dubai, you won’t be forced to wear anything, it’s just frowned upon, there are no laws against you going out in a bikini at the beach else all those Instagram pics of girls in Dubai would’ve had them arrested and jailed or fined I think people don’t realise as a Muslim you can’t force anything on another person, it’s their choice to obey or disobey god now there are countries around the world that you could be told to cover up and a lot of those countries are Christian too not t just Islamic countries, people forget not every countries like the western ones

[@marystar6021]

I'd imagine come Halloween, they'll never worry about costumes 😂!

[@abhiruplahiri1]

I have lived in several Western European countries and the States. A few years ago when I visited London, I was shocked to see women on Oxford street wearing this stupid costume.

[@chriswatson1698]

When we communicate, we don't just use words. We express ourselves with facial expressions as well. Women who hide their faces have something to hide. They are choosing NOT to communicate.

[@ridaz442]

Are you ok? you do realise that they wear it to hide their beauty as instructed by Allah

[@chriswatson1698]

@@ridaz442 Yes. The Quran is grossly unjust to women. Why should beauty be hidden?Men are responsible for their own behaviour. Islam is vile.

[@felixyoghurt3291]

@@ridaz442 Hahaha yeah right like Allah takes personal offence 🤦

[@bernadettekenaghan3246]

Hecisnt real ​@@ridaz442

[@anak.-ix5zg]

That's creepy conspiracy & makes ppl scared. U dont even know it's a man or a woman. Could be t.st.

[@neaturexiong]

Can you imagine having this kind of conversation/ communication in an Islamic state country 😅😅😅 this would never fly at all

[@johngmulhatton9794]

Would you be allowed to go through customs wearing your mask in one of their countries??

[@lindawoolsey1365]

You wouldn't argue in a Muslim country

[@lalithags6287]

Ha ha... Imagine taking a group photo... All black n just eyes

[@Bprosha]

@@lalithags6287 at this point why even take a photo..😂😂😂

[@meteoroz]

Brings to mind the Billy Idol song "Eyes Without a Face"

[@daisychain3007]

I think that it should be a personal choice ehether one wants to wear a niqab or not. As long as one is not forced, everything is all right.

[@lynlittlelion]

Personally it makes me feel uncomfortable especially if they are in a group ,unable to see their faces or knowing who is under there ,it is a security risk in certain places ,you can't wear a helmet in a bank and certainly should not be in schools

[@mariaroncara2132]

And it could be a man wearing a suicide belt! Frightening!

[@Razia10376]

A muslim woman wearing veil will show their faces without any question if a security officer asked to for security reasons. And you could also be hiding bombs under your clothing, should you also stop wearing clothes?

[@TMGold60]

ban them, simple as that, if the men dont like it, take your women to islamic countries, we are not one and aim to stop becoming one

[@keifer7813]

What about face masks. Does a person wearing one make you uncomfortable too?

[@lynlittlelion]

@@keifer7813 yes it does

[@marilyn8178]

I remember when my young child saw a woman covered in the street, he started screaming from fear. 😢

[@michaeljohnchapman8772]

I come from a normal British family. In the 50´s my mother and many other women used a headscarf and my granny used a veil. This was quite normal at the time. Nuns also use head gear, should society order what people should wear? About social interaction. Most people are only capable of talking about the weather, which doesn´´t interest me. The general population certainly isn´t interested in discussing philosophy.

[@user-hh2vw6td3r]

Ah, a positive in this desert of sanctimonius, narrow minded peasantry. Wish there were more people on this planet like your good self.

[@larainehopper6214]

I am deaf and communication is not possible because I lip read

[@bettinatragen3178]

me too

[@user-kd3ic6do5n]

Why bother trying, it's not as if they make any effort to communicate with us. They prefer it that way, but point taken, in our society covering your face is a sign you have something to hide.

[@jeanmitchell5834]

Great point

[@citizenoflmanburgo7767]

So you can read words on paper and on phone right? You can understand nodding yes and no right? Why would you wanna see a girl face that you don’t know and make her feel uncomfortable meanwhile you had other available options? This is not an excuse i can pull my phone up and tell you the answer, just like i did now.. as long as British girls are welcomed in middle east without being told to cover up because we respect people’s rights and freedom so you should too people, let us live in peace instead of making big deal about wanting to see our face for “life or death reasons” yall are so sick, i can literally change my face with make up why isn’t make up banned tho??

[@FahimaKhalif]

The percentage of niqabis in the west is 1%I think you’ll be fine.

[@colleenmonfross4283]

What is so interesting to me about this subject is that many countries around the world where Muslims are immigrating to are having difficulty with the Muslims integrating into the cultures they have chosen and asked to be a part of but fail to consider that culture and do nothing to ease their own way, or the way of the citizens of that country. In short, they have no consideration for the culture they are asking to belong to and expect instead to be accommodated. This is why so many countries are now slamming their doors shut to Muslims and even deporting them. They must consider that their way of being is very foreign to non-Muslim cultures and it is they who must adapt, not the citizens of the countries that are allowing them in.

[@janeburke147]

I agree.You would think that they would want to live in a Muslim country.If I was going to move I’d want to go somewhere that I could fit right in.I would never consider a Muslim country 😳

[@justsayit5251]

i am a muslim and do veil and wear abaya because it is mandatory in my religion. I know that we should respect culture but is the order my Allah so i will never take it off in order to make someone feel better but I would definitely not consider living in a non muslim country where they find this attire unacceptable !

[@madeleinel6089]

@@justsayit5251where did allah order you to wear a face covering 🤔 nothing in the Quran about that at all! It’s a man made rule

[@justsayit5251]

@@madeleinel6089 Read Surah al Nisa and with tafseer

[@madeleinel6089]

@@justsayit5251 no, I’m not reading anything! You stated that allah ordered you to wear it, I’m asking when did he order you to wear it, and what did he say. I thought Muslims followed the Quran 🤔 there’s nothing in there that says woman have to be covered head to toe!

[@PhilBrown-ik1dk]

Those who choose to wear a veil certainly won't find it easy to make friends in the UK! Whenever I've been asked for advice about friend-finding, one of the tips I always pass on was learned from a friend who always had a slight smile whenever I met him. That taught me that a smile is appealing; it encourages cheerfulness; and it leaves a good impression. Use of a veil prevents easy communication (at work and when using shops, buses, etc) and is bound to generate feelings of distrust & suspicion. In a serious situation where a police interview or a court appearance is needed, a person's expression can reveal the difference between truth & lies. Therefore the UK needs a new government which will put a stop to non-British activities like veil-wearing

[@THEADDICTEDGAMER97]

How do you know who they are.

[@carolrebeccareiss8968]

I happened upon this video by chance. This was 10 years ago. I do not think multiculturalism has worked out well for Western society. Since there have been quite a few Jihadist incidents in Western cities, I would venture to say many people who are not Muslim would be frightened if they saw a person wearing a full burka a hajib and a niqab with only their eyes visible. This might work well for Muslim women in traditional Muslim countrues where this type of dress is the norm, but not in mainstream Western society. Whatever happened to When in Rome do as the Roman's do? I think respecting the norms of a society puts the majority of the people more at ease. Furthermore, as far as schools are concerned, educators found that certain types of garb are distractinfg to the students and incite behavioral problems. Hence, uniforms for students are now becoming more of the norm.

[@lwalker664]

Multiculturalism. That's what people all go back to... This is a religious issue Multiculturalism refers to (1) the state of a society or the world in which there exists numerous distinct ethnic and cultural groups seen to be politically relevant; and (2) a program or policy promoting such a society.

[@baronjay8017]

Imagine how scary moving along a street with everyone, men and women, wearing a full face mask?

[@suryaprakashvarma9574]

If she is truly a teacher she will destroy the whole class room

[@sundeutsch]

Forget about everything else, the worst part is Muslim women feel proud in wearing hijab instead of opposing it and even worse is that the Bites are having a debate if it should be allowed or banned instead of throwing these people out, who are making ghetoes in various parts of their country.

[@elizabethannegrey6285]

Terrible interviewer: constantly interrupting people of whom she asks questions: utter shambles!

[@fkyourmom8399]

Agreed

[@sophiew9155]

Totally agree

[@jennymisteqq5399]

Agreed, but I’ve seen a lot of these sort of overseas programs where not only does the interviewer interrupt the very person they’re interviewing, but the entire panel does this as well. All parties interrupt, talk over each other, or by knowingly taking up too much time when stating their opinion.

[@0101Virus]

Everyone can agree to this..

[@vanessafmreis]

Yes, it’s not only inappropriate but it also makes it more difficult for us to get the whole point the person is trying to make. Awful.

[@user-pn4jh6ev4m]

Short awnser:no Long awnser:noo

[@derekhenderson1730]

When you go to another country that follows a different set of laws and rules, you respect that. Islam is NOT about peace and understanding.

[@fuzzywuzzywazzawoman9734]

can someone explain how wearing a bag over your head is liberating please

[@fuzzywuzzywazzawoman9734]

+Nazmul Slater tell dr who I've found the darleks. EXTERMINATE.EXTERMINATE.

[@TheKonnoisseur11]

fuzzy wuzzy wazza woman focusing on inner beauty vs outer ?

[@Kate-Does]

It isn't liberating. Islam has no place in the West. Resist.

[@ajdar5582]

Kate Kate, I have slept with a number of white British women and two of them told me they wished they had been a virgin when they got married and stayed with one man. They told me that they were ashamed that they had slept with more than one man. Your own countrywomen admit this!

[@ajdar5582]

Kate No way I would marry a western woman that has been done by more than one man. Never!

[@omarsuave6148]

They want to migrate but don’t respect the culture and don’t want to asimílate. If their fearful, lonely and depressed they need to analyze their migration and choices in a different culture.

[@carolteasdale9795]

God gave you the gift of expression. This is so that we can grow and learn together, especially children.

[@hazrobson2305]

This is not a Muslim country last time I checked. Don't let them take it away.

[@lucilanavarrete9287]

The first time I saw someone wearing a burka was in Germany and I was absolutely shocked. I have never seen someone totally covered. Is still shocks me to see that.

[@toxicsoftie]

Why? And you aren't shocked seeing naked womans?

[@offlas32]

She doesnt wear the niqab for you its not your business

[@lucilanavarrete9287]

@@offlas32 I have my opinion like you. it is absolutely my business. She could wear whatever she wants.

[@lucilanavarrete9287]

@@toxicsoftie not really. You have to adapt to where you live. If I go to an Arab country I cannot do a loot things. That’s why I don’t go. But if you come to Europe you don’t adapt and later is racism.

[@ericdelf]

@@offlas32 It's his business if offended

[@maureensmith9328]

I’m a 74 year old white Christian woman and I have to say this covering up especially the face is abhorrent to me. If the only way to be modest is to cover up like this where does it leave the rest of us? Are we all immodest and to be looked down upon by those that advocate this ridiculous dress? These people should live in countries that like this. This is England and we don’t like it

[@yarubaziyan]

womp womp my niqqa

[@MiladaKaiser]

Exactly. They feel very superior to us.

[@SinaAla]

lol, talk about insecurities. If you think wearing the face veil is abhorrent, why would you be worried about their supposed sense of superiority?

[@Penelope_777]

I agree.

[@utubesanjay]

The souls of the dead and oppressed people who were colonized by your ancestors have cursed your country. From the looks of it, this looks like just the beginning. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

[@piscesmoon3512]

As a European my culture is to sunbathe topless. I will support your choices in the UK when you support mine in the Middle East. Acceptance works both ways.

[@edenshorthousesthouse1925]

My religion requires me to be in Orbit may I have some help with getting to Orbit

[@loudandclear1544]

It was so funny and sad to see a lady in veil eat at an eatery with her husband and kids. She literally took the food in a fork under the veil to her mouth everytime with so much difficulty. While her husband was wearing a t-shirt and denim and enjoying his meal. How more pathetic can this become.

[@mskwan9956]

I’ve wore niqab a couple of times and you’re exaggerating it’s literally so easy all you got to do is put your hand or a fork under it. And by the way he is following the Islamic dress code.

[@pappuchin3733]

Unless you are also putting a plate under the niqab you still need to pick the food from the plate, and bring it inside the niqab and eat it, it’s very difficult

[@mskwan9956]

@@pappuchin3733 can I ask you something? Do you wear a niqab?

[@mskwan9956]

@@pappuchin3733 one hand is holding the niqab forward and the other is for the fork and how exactly is that difficult?

[@idk.939]

It was the ladies choice to wear it if it was that bad she could take it off but she chose not tooooooo

[@lockleaze]

Couldn’t stop laughing. Like a Monty Python script. A load of letter boxes. Boris Johnson was right.

[@matsrosenquist4620]

There is really nothing to discuss, this swhould be banned! Or they can go to a country where it's accepted.

[@pizzaking_1270]

Look at all the ninjas in the room 😂😂😂

[@biancamare1]

I think the biggest issue is that in Western culture we read mannerisms, facial expressions and this forms either trust or no trust between people. I myself watch how people interact with others and their behaviour before interacting with them and barring this will decide whether or not I wish to engage. This is how I am in general with all humans and this is why others don’t feel comfortable interacting with a black sheet and a voice, we need interaction where we can see a person. This is not what it means to be human, we are born naked - we should be feeling the sun on our skin, we should be able to smell the fresh air and to be able to swim in the ocean and lie on grass with nature on our bodies. It’s super strange to me that one would hide from this privilege when they can be free.

[@oojimmyflip]

youve just ended the future of AI and possible robots in the home🤣

[@rachelkristine4669]

So, basically u mean we should all be nudists. Got it! 😂

[@kripaharris237]

Well said

[@Kayemith774]

Sounds like you should be seeking to live in a nudist colony just let it all hang out until someone cops a feel than you feel insulted REALLY

[@angelau1194]

@@rachelkristine4669 Bit cold in UK : ) But essentially what is wrong with the human body? Absolutely nothing.

[@8xtime]

They look like a bunch of bandits hiding behind those masks.

[@CallOZooty69]

Boris Johnson is now being targeted, and branded a racist for saying this.

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

J Baj92 please resubmit, in English if that’s within your powers.

[@simonhartley5444]

Curtailing freedom of speech however is a crime. Wearing a religious/cultural garb is not freedom of speech. However, freedom of expression is a 2 way street..... they express their cultural views so I will express my displeasure at it.

[@lyndafayesmusic]

No,, bandits now wear black hoody's and show their faces; Worse than bandits! Guess they liked watching the Lone Ranger right ? -they're all speaking the same thing., don't see much individuality there; They came to a country wherein they have "rights" to speak their mindS and only seem to have one! They're so ignorant of their own "practices", being to be sure to not be seen by jealous male friends of their husbands that they "the aha moment" , wait for it....that they come to a country to shove it's own laws back into (our) their own faces! They found a "cause" aid I'd bet you fifty bucks, it ain't based on ANY freedom to practice their "religion." Go to Mecca for your religion-why come here ? Oh, now it's "humanity?". They seem to enjoy that "right" to the point of "Entertaining" humanity with it! Seems to me the only real freedom they "deserve to have respected" is the Freedom To Hide, while "acting out.".

[@mariemr8574]

Hi from 2020 pandemic.

[@user-io8bq7xb5t]

Personally I think it should be band

[@rg2884]

The debate was won the minute Douglas Murray observed how ludicrous it was to discuss human rights when wearing a niqab. Spot on! Wearing niqabs reminds me of Christian self flagellation.

[@tamton7873]

If you love this country UK, then you should follow its ruls.

[@emilydavison2053]

The UK doesn't have rules about clothes, that's one of our freedoms. Sad that this weird, alien custom is forcing us to think about changing.

[@thehussarsjacobitess85]

As a woman who covers her head in public (Catholic, not Islamic principles), it's absolutely ridiculous to cover one's face. Only criminals do that. Even our nuns, who are completely off the menu as far as men are concerned, do not obscure their faces. That is the centre of one's personhood. The niqab is a statement that one is private property.

[@pusheentheschrodingerkitte1376]

I guess that the only reason that you should be allowed to cover your face is if you were a victim of vitriol or some disfigurement. Those are compassionate and valid grounds.

[@emartinez2740]

Also, Catholic nuns cover their heads because they want to and can stop at any point while Muslim as required by their religion and could be 8n trouble in their countries

[@Sparta-oo2iy]

Cover up coronavirus is here to wipe you out!!!

[@al.345]

@@emartinez2740 No christian women are meant to cover their bodies.

[@carlosrobert9901]

Covering the head is islamic... The face is a culture.

[@pandapower2793]

I really wish this debate were better moderated

[@dil2370]

“When in Rome do as the Romans do” basic respect for another country’s culture that should be followed by people who wish to come to the UK.

[@Simon-gg1gx]

Wearing a niqab is against face to face communication, its repressive to women whether they choose or not to wear it in such circumstances and is basically anti British. It’s also something I regret and am offended at because it goes counter to these communication ideals of British people. You can’t know if someone is smiling for example or other body language. I also find it an expression of hiding and actually shutting down ones personality. I would not ban it, but certainly at work, in schools, courts, banks and public and private places it should not be allowed and be discouraged and it should be ok for restaurants or supermarkets to ask people to take it off eg for cctv camera and public safety purposes etc, free of fear of any discrimination. It should be for everyone else to discourage it and not run lines between our culture where we have enough problems already.

[@Whoareyoubelqis]

just reaching atp

[@cupcakecult4828]

Dude it’s a face

[@turtleisland1492]

Ship them all back

[@rachelkristine4669]

U just banned it, with that statement! 😂

[@Kayemith774]

Why do you feel that you need to know if someone is smiling some people might smile and sucker punch you would that be alright ?, I mean at least you saw the smile and not the action that followed it

[@universaliss]

In Western societies we show our faces end of discussion .

[@Kate-Does]

100%

[@selinasaleem5477]

It’s not illegal for them to follow their religion and if it’s in their religion then they are free to do this just like the point she made about jehovas witnesses and Sikhs

[@miriamocean5275]

Haha have a vote and see what the society wants, stop please and live like everyone else

Funny how they use the other liberties to defend wearing that get up.

[@longdragon3]

Exactly and if they don't like the Western culture then they can kindly leave to a country where showing faces are not the norm.