British guitarist sums up today's music industry with an REO Speedwagon performance

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Wings of Pegasus

Wings of Pegasus

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@johnnygray1122
@johnnygray1122 5 жыл бұрын
That's the first time I have seen Fil genuinely pissed off. Bravo Fil! Everything you said is so true.
@alanandrews4726
@alanandrews4726 5 жыл бұрын
And well he should be.
@mikebetts2046
@mikebetts2046 5 жыл бұрын
Fil, you are normally mr. positive. It's actually refreshing to see that you are capable of criticizing a situation. Not everything is sunshine and roses, and glad to hear you call this situation out.
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Betts ... Is it possible that you were actually trying for actually when you put in accuracy? It actually fits the sentence more accurately.
@seamus2112ophelan
@seamus2112ophelan 5 жыл бұрын
@@JW...-oj5iw .....woahhhh
@denicegarberina7454
@denicegarberina7454 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 5 жыл бұрын
Batphink Reynolds ... Better still, you should have someone take away your electronic devices when you've been downing too many ales or Fosters or whatever your poison is.
@carlodave9
@carlodave9 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I don't think auto-tune makes REO Speedwagon any worse than they already are.
@skeletonmakesgood
@skeletonmakesgood 5 жыл бұрын
This young man is wise beyond his years. Once again, thank you Fil for sharing your incredible passion for music with all of us. Mucho respect to you.
@lindakeen8800
@lindakeen8800 5 жыл бұрын
You are so spot on here. Music has lost its soul. Music is emotion, raw, achingly beautiful, it should grab your heart and take you on a ride, it’s an experience. Autotune robs you of the mystery, the unexpected and truth of that experience
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 5 жыл бұрын
You have hit the nail on the head. Says it all, thank you!
@rayjulien4739
@rayjulien4739 5 жыл бұрын
'Auto tune' should be legally stamped on every 'Music seller'. Let the listener decide!
@ChuckJolley
@ChuckJolley 5 жыл бұрын
But can you autotuna fish?
@rayjulien4739
@rayjulien4739 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChuckJolley Sure, 'Like a Sturgeon, tuned for the very first time.'
@markusmunten9346
@markusmunten9346 5 жыл бұрын
yeah like the explicit lyric stickers
@MrUfojunkiedavid
@MrUfojunkiedavid 5 жыл бұрын
RIP Gary Richrath....the real awesome guitarist that made REO a real rock band
@juliereminiec4937
@juliereminiec4937 2 жыл бұрын
And a inspiration for Power Metal
@winterlane2247
@winterlane2247 5 жыл бұрын
You are wrong Fil, the music of today does make me feel something-nauseated, and now I know why. Love your channel!
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH for giving voice to an issue that has irritated me since the early '90's!!! I'm 60 years old and grew up with bands who could actually PLAY actual INSTRUMENTS and were as good live, if not better, than their album. I pity this generation. 🤘🎸💯
@robertlstein5017
@robertlstein5017 5 жыл бұрын
Most rock singers do not have pitch perfect voices: mick jagger, Robert plant, Janis Joplin, joe cocker, Carole king , but they convey their feeling so well. Well done fil!!!!!
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
💖🤘💯
@johncarroll9013
@johncarroll9013 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@kevinthetruckdriver353
@kevinthetruckdriver353 5 жыл бұрын
*In the old days,* the soundboard tech would just *mute the singers mic* if it was bad or *used a back-up tape.* In the 1990's, a audio tape was leaked of Linda McCartney from Wings (Paul's then wife) was so off key & bad on *Hey Jude* that it was learned that the soundboard techs just muted her mic for the show.
@kevinthetruckdriver353
@kevinthetruckdriver353 5 жыл бұрын
*Brad Delp of Boston* was one such singer. He couldn't sing those higher notes in *More Than A Feeling* live anymore. So Boston had to get younger musicians to sing those parts live. Since Delp died (suicide), Boston hired female musicians/singers to achieve the sound Brad Delp used to do when he was younger.
@chrisstory563
@chrisstory563 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinthetruckdriver353 heard that recording on a morning radio show called The Ron & Ron show and there was a guy who called them who was interviewing Paul. when he mention Ron & Ron. Paul became so furious that he wish them to have cancer. sadly, that not a wise thing to say, one the guys on the show died of cancer or some HIV related diease and he lost Linda of cancer. I can understand he was extremely angry and embarrassed with people mocking his late wife but words can back you in the ass if you're not careful.
@myownchannel247
@myownchannel247 5 жыл бұрын
there's always a range for any note, it's not incorrect to be a few cents off. to me it's like saying that artists can only use bright red of a specific degree or none at all, just imagine what that would do to the best paintings in the world, that's what their doing to music and i thank you, Fil for exposing this oppressive trend to remove emotion from all music.
@shirleymuhleisen683
@shirleymuhleisen683 5 жыл бұрын
I relate to slightly flat in blues performances😎
@aprils6589
@aprils6589 5 жыл бұрын
Well said, David.
@myownchannel247
@myownchannel247 5 жыл бұрын
@@aprils6589 thanks
@cindypowers4993
@cindypowers4993 4 жыл бұрын
You just painted a picture through your words of what music is. Honest, real and raw, and definitely untouched by Auto tune. 👍
@myownchannel247
@myownchannel247 4 жыл бұрын
@@cindypowers4993 ❤️
@lauriekane4686
@lauriekane4686 5 жыл бұрын
Why can't the music producers of today understand that when they remove the "imperfections," they remove the charm, or the "humanness?" Truely great analysis tonight, Fil!!
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 5 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put music now is clinical yuck
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 5 жыл бұрын
Laurie Kane As a music producer who refuses to use it, I can tell you it comes down to two reasons, neither of which is justified: 1. Laziness 2. No historical understanding of music
@lauriekane4686
@lauriekane4686 5 жыл бұрын
@@artysanmobile Yeah, I guess you're right. These producers have no business being in the music business. Imagine if George Martin had had this technology in the 60's, and if he had utilized it! The entire landscape of several generations of music would suddenly vanish out of existence!
@voulafisentzidis8830
@voulafisentzidis8830 2 жыл бұрын
@@artysanmobile perhaps you could somehow influence those who use auto-tune to stop. It truly ruins good music. Those who can't sing shouldn't be recording.
@johngazna
@johngazna 5 жыл бұрын
It's good to see a young person with an understanding of art and expression.
@GirlWithAnOpinion
@GirlWithAnOpinion 5 жыл бұрын
Fil is awesome!
@poetsdreamsatc
@poetsdreamsatc 5 жыл бұрын
I saw REO live in the 70s and they really kicked ass. Kevin was absolutely flawless as well as the rest of the band. Fil you are correct! Auto tune has ruined music today. Love your channel Fil! And your music ed teachings. You’re really amazing! Thank you for educating a new generation. ❤️💋🤘🏼
@RobinNashville
@RobinNashville 5 жыл бұрын
You're a gem, Fil. Glad you're part of the conversation.
@brianmiller6055
@brianmiller6055 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fil. You nailed it perfectly. It used to be about the talent. These days image is all that matters.
@jimh3267
@jimh3267 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly my favorite analysis yet, Fil. I appreciate not only your perspective, but passion as well. No need to apologize. Don't think the great Gary Richrath would have partaken in this.
@han36solo
@han36solo 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Fil! I totally agree and was really happy to hear you will not show performances that use for autotune future vids. You rock!
@tempestokcband2930
@tempestokcband2930 5 жыл бұрын
How it felts versus how it sounds, spot on statement, singers have become disposable because of autotune, most folks are now tuned to hear autotune, if they don't hear autotune, they think the singer sucks, I'm sure glad I grew up in the 70's!
@sharonmuzik
@sharonmuzik 5 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why the 'top 40' today all sounds the same. I can't even sit and listen to it.
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
Me neither-🤢🤮 ... it's GARBAGE.
@meliplay
@meliplay 5 жыл бұрын
Do you remember the top 40 in our day ? Our host was Casey Kasem. I lived for it it was the highlight of my week in a tiny little Alabama town with one traffic light. On another note it was Casey who taught me that REO Speedwagon got their name from an antique fire engine
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 5 жыл бұрын
The country band Diamond Rio got their name from the same place - in later days REO was known as Diamond-REO.
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
@@meliplay YES! I remember; it would come on Sunday mornings here in Chicago- I loved it!!
@juliact
@juliact 5 жыл бұрын
@@meliplay I loved Casey Kasem! He was fantastic. Got my transistor radio out, every Sunday morning it was for us (I'm all the way in Australia)
@texaschili9532
@texaschili9532 5 жыл бұрын
Good analysis and even better rant. 👍
@cynergy4
@cynergy4 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for speaking up for purity. YES! It's about how music makes us FEEL!!!!
@PedroNord
@PedroNord 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on ! Thank you !! Fil, you should have been born in 1950. You would have feasted as a young man in the 60s and 70s. There were no home computers or video games in those days. For me and my friends it was all about how good are your speakers, amp, turntable, cartridge, reel-to-reel, and record collection. Then it was “Who did you go and see last weekend.” The arguments were about solid state vs tube, who makes the superior record cleaning system, and what kind of gloves should you wear when handling records. You would have fit right in.
@gailtuska4830
@gailtuska4830 3 жыл бұрын
I used to see REO in their early days in Racine WI. They were great! No auto tune needed. I agree the pure vocals need to be brought back. Sad music changed so much.
@chrisvanheusen9286
@chrisvanheusen9286 Жыл бұрын
I also have seen REO several times back in the day and yes they were fantastic but I saw him live recently and he really has lost much of his vocal ability. I don't agree with the use of autotune, everybody's voice changes with time... Look at how many famous singers from back in the day who can't sing at all anymore.
@58icarus
@58icarus 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this guy so much: he has passion. At 12:30-12:45 Fil is spot-on, bingo, bulls-eye, and any other superlative you can think of. Thank you!
@kathyirvine6719
@kathyirvine6719 5 жыл бұрын
WOW been listening to REO SPEEDWAGON here lately, One of my favorite bands! WOW!!! Thank YOU FIL!!!!
@sandiparker8567
@sandiparker8567 5 жыл бұрын
Omg Fil, I am so with you on this auto tune bs. My aunt Anne Phillips is a singer from way back. She had a fabulous, very well-reviewed album in the early 60s called “Born to be Blue” - it’s amazing - she always says that today with all this technology, you can grab any young woman off the street and put her in a studio and auto tune her voice and presto! A pop star - talent not required 🙄🙄🙄 She sang with greats like Benny Goodman and Glenn Miller and this stuff makes her so sad. I love how you’ve said that people like Janis Joplin and Neil young and Bob Dylan didn’t need perfect pitch - they gave you ALL the feels with the heart they put into their music! \m/
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
Your aunt- WOW 😲!!! Hey, we have the same last name- maybe we're related because we DEFINITELY think alike!💖🎸💯
@sandiparker8567
@sandiparker8567 5 жыл бұрын
Michele Parker ha ha we do! Are you in UK or US? I know Parker is a very common name in Britain - my husband’s heritage is British
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
Hee hee! I'm in the US, Chicago, Illinois. 😃
@michaelmcneill5339
@michaelmcneill5339 5 жыл бұрын
I checked out "Born to be Blue" by your aunt. Veeeeery nice! Don't know why I never heard her before! Kinda reminds me of a female Chet Baker.
@sandiparker8567
@sandiparker8567 5 жыл бұрын
Michael McNeill ah thanks, I love that album 🥰
@iDONTdoFacebook
@iDONTdoFacebook 5 жыл бұрын
I’d never heard of vocal auto-tune before Fil’s explanation here. I knew nothing about it before this moment. But as I listened to Kevin singing in the recording of his band’s performance just prior to Fil’s comments, I was very consciously thinking to myself, “something’s off here”. “Something doesn’t sound right with his vocals”. I thought his voice sounded ‘short’ or ‘chopped’. I’ve listened to Kevin sing this song for nearly 42 years -since it first came out on REO’s album “You Can Tune A Piano But You Can’t Tuna Fish” in 1978. I well know what the real and full performance of this song sounds like! In fact it was THIS song (and its twin Speedwagon hit, “Roll With The Changes” which was released on the same album) that made me a fan of the band when that pair of excellent REO hits first began to be played on the radio and inspired me to go buy my first REO Speedwagon album. As I listened to this particular recording of the song posted by Fil, even before he had begun his analysis, it was OBVIOUS to me that there was a richness or a fullness missing from Kevin’s vocals. As Fil began talking about this vocal auto-tune tweek that’s becoming popular in the music industry now, that’s when I realized my ears or my mind weren’t playing tricks on me. It was the NUANCE of the PHYSICAL EXPRESSION that was MISSING. That it’s PURPOSELY missing (has been PURPOSELY REMOVED) is a travesty. It’s a travesty because what’s been removed is the part that conveys THE EMOTION of the performance! What’s left is MECHANICAL, machine-like, nearly emotionless! Like Fil, I DON’T LIKE IT! Don’t like it at all.
@danithompson1693
@danithompson1693 5 жыл бұрын
Such a great album title! Hi Infidelity is as well!
@michaelholycross8718
@michaelholycross8718 5 жыл бұрын
Madonna...Britney...a lot of careers would have died without auto tune.
@Diosprometheus
@Diosprometheus 5 жыл бұрын
Taylor swift,,,maybe she is good song writer, but her vocal abilities are questionable. I heard her singing live with Mick and she was awful, nothing like her records where she gets by with her limited range.
@stevenwoodward5923
@stevenwoodward5923 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelholycross8718 I am not a Madonna fan, but her first major songs came out in the early 80"s before auto tune..
@janeteitsworth8824
@janeteitsworth8824 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. REO is phenomenal live. All the artists from that Era. Today's era is equivalent to Millie Vanillie
@terraboundmisfit
@terraboundmisfit 5 жыл бұрын
I really hate to admit this, but in the 70's and the 80's when I was a child and young adult I didn't really like live recordings because they didn't sound as good as the studio recordings. It wasn't until I was in my thirties that I learned to like and now prefer live music to studio recordings. now days I almost entirely purchase albums and watch videos of bands that are unsigned. In fact I would much rather watch a band in some dive whole in the wall. Now after watching this video I understand why that is, but I had no idea that auto tune is used so much now. You really enlightened me. Thank you Fil!
@juliact
@juliact 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! I only like independent music. All the big acts are so ... blah. There's no excitement, no thrill in listening to them. It's all muzak now.
@mickwagner1590
@mickwagner1590 5 жыл бұрын
Fil, I agree with everything you said, with one slight exception. Kevin Cronin has full control over whether or not they use auto-tune on his mic. He's not out there selling records like one of the new one-hit wonders - he and the rest of REO are touring to make money. Period. Kevin has - in fact - a long-standing reputation for being extremely involved in every aspect of his live shows, and not putting up with hijinks. If there's an auto-tune on his vocals, it;s because he wanted it there.
@bekind6763
@bekind6763 5 жыл бұрын
No apologies necessary about auto-tune, I agree with you 100% This was a great analysis as always.. I saw Reo several times and they are a great band.
@dmcarp2807
@dmcarp2807 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding heartfelt argument against use of autotuning, etc, and as advocacy for support of independent artists today.
@GS-xt8fu
@GS-xt8fu 5 жыл бұрын
Another amazingly pure voice from that era....two actually. Dennis from Styx and Steve Perry from journey. Steve Perry? Phenomenal.
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
🏠💯
@LostMyMojo100
@LostMyMojo100 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the best... Ian Gillan! Mic drop.......
@paulablissett9396
@paulablissett9396 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Perry 'THE VOICE'!
@mitch5699
@mitch5699 5 жыл бұрын
@@LostMyMojo100 The Greatest Rock Singer Period. That's saying something, considering the greats." Born Again" still mind blowing today.
@paul-Ess
@paul-Ess 5 жыл бұрын
John Farnham, THE VOICE!
@jefftullius
@jefftullius 3 жыл бұрын
U listen to many songs from the 60's 70's and even the 80's and I find myself with tears running down my cheeks! I no longer find this happening anymore! I'm 68 and I love your channel 💕
@lollinelson5549
@lollinelson5549 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining this and making us all more aware of autotune everywhere. I still prefer live recordings of my favorite 70s group even when they were losing their voices. Live, without autotune, has so much more emotion and heart! You hit the nail on the head....it's all about the emotional connection!! Thank you!
@chipdamutt108
@chipdamutt108 5 жыл бұрын
For years I've been saying I could go into a studio and they could make me sound good. Spot on Fil! They all sound alike now.
@falcon5467
@falcon5467 5 жыл бұрын
Some day people will be remembering the thrill of driving cars without auto-control.
@sandiparker8567
@sandiparker8567 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Cross I love your profile pic! Sluggo!! 👏👏
@amylee4965
@amylee4965 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha.....True
@mbsnyderc
@mbsnyderc 5 жыл бұрын
I do it everyday.I don't even want a Modern car.
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 5 жыл бұрын
Amy Lee ... You are an amazing singer.
@amylee4965
@amylee4965 5 жыл бұрын
@@JW...-oj5iw Say What?? you got the wrong Amy Lee
@brucenicole1902
@brucenicole1902 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to the great bands of the 70s and you´re so so right about people feeling the music during that era and todays generation simply hearing it
@lastone783
@lastone783 5 жыл бұрын
Great rant, Fil! Love REO and can’t wait for the real thing❣️
@mariorabottini5687
@mariorabottini5687 5 жыл бұрын
REO Speedwagon are such a great band! They don’t need auto tune. The music industry today and its hierarchy should leave bands alone and let them perform naturally....that’s the best part of seeing a band live! Great analysis Fil! Cheers Mario!😎🤘🤘
@suzannerobbins6293
@suzannerobbins6293 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Fil! REO Speedwagen was played a lot in my house when my daughter was in high school! I loved them too! Music was played constantly in my house, and perhaps that is why my daughter got her degree as a music therapist! Indianapolis held lots of concerts, and I made sure she got to go!
@KarlSharicz
@KarlSharicz 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Fil for this. I had no idea that so much of this auto-tune was going on these days. There's a quote by audio engineer Ryan Shannahan on the Antares website where he says "“Auto-Tune is a tool I use on pretty much every vocal I engineer. I can’t remember the last time I worked on a record without it." I'm sure he's not alone and so I guess we can expect more and more perfectly pitched vocals in recorded music. I'm old school at 71 so I've been around a lot of both live and recorded music and I will say that this technology is part of the cultural trend in making everything perfect that wasn't perfect to begin with, which means the music industry is feeding crap to the public all in the name of revenues and profitability. Being aware of this now is key because I am not buying into this. I recorded some original music of mine with an engineer friend in a home studio and although my vocals are far from perfect the thought never occurred to us to ever want to alter what I had done. OK, we used Pro Tools to tweak a few blemishes in my guitar track but that was the extent of it. Thanks again Fil for this revelation.
@stevenbrading1437
@stevenbrading1437 5 жыл бұрын
Another great one Fil. Keep em coming.
@TheEudaemonicPlague
@TheEudaemonicPlague 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could give this one several thumbs up. REO Speedwagon is from my hometown and, of course, one of my favorites. Finding this video pleases me...just yesterday, I realized I haven't listened to REO for much too long and was intending to crank it up today, anyway. I've only gotten to see them live once...bummer.
@stargazer1460
@stargazer1460 5 жыл бұрын
Was a big fan of REO back in the 70's. Really loved their live album. There were so many, many great rock bands during the 70's👍😎🤘
@53philp
@53philp 5 жыл бұрын
Until they turned too bubble gum (for me)
@eric_in_florida
@eric_in_florida 5 жыл бұрын
You get what you play for is amzing!
@paulablissett9396
@paulablissett9396 5 жыл бұрын
The 60's 2!
@stargazer1460
@stargazer1460 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulablissett9396 absolutely 👍
@paulablissett9396
@paulablissett9396 5 жыл бұрын
@@stargazer1460 YAAAAASSSSS!
@dianemiller8969
@dianemiller8969 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Fil, you are so right about every single thing you said here, especially about auto tune! Thank you!
@michaelkeudel8770
@michaelkeudel8770 5 жыл бұрын
This video comes from a professional movie house, that means it was properly mixed and recorded off of the mixing desk. The autotune was applied not during the performance, but on the post production of the video. It's not uncommon on a commercial release of a live album or video of a concert to undergo overdubs for mistakes, vocals to be completely replaced to make the band sound better as a live entity. Best example of a live album that almost is basically a complete studio recording would be Ozzy's Speak Of Th Devil, both performances of the vynil release of all Sabbath material and the the Diary Tour concert film sound absolutely nothing like the actual performances on the raw bootlegs. If you want to see a live band that performs and sounds better live than studio, go watch a Styx concert, they still play everything in the original key, and the harmonies are freaking spine chilling.
@sscarcello
@sscarcello 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fil for venting out and speaking the truth. Auto Tune is like taking a Van Gogh painting of flowers out of the museum in Amsterdam and having an artist repaint it an make the flowers perfect as a photograph and put that version on display.
@shabernastysmith7393
@shabernastysmith7393 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fil, I'm no professional, but I love great music. Interesting to hear your take on the auto tune aspect. I don't like music that is over produced. It needs to sound like it would live.
@c.l.5199
@c.l.5199 5 жыл бұрын
Even when you're miffed, you are still a gentleman. Thanks Fil. You are top shelf!
@drewpall2598
@drewpall2598 5 жыл бұрын
"Ridin' the Storm Out" back in 1973 was the first song I herd from REO Speedwagon and was hook. excellent "rant" on "auto-tune" and the music industry! I meant analysis "Chuckle" this is one of your best Fil.
@daviddband77
@daviddband77 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Articulated beautifully! 💙
@scottyboy7462
@scottyboy7462 5 жыл бұрын
As a singer in a band for (too many) years, I’m definitely losing my ability to hit some notes. When I perform, and half the reason I still perform, is that challenge a singer has - to be able to connect with the crowd. And honestly, sometimes I have to improvise, and really push beyond by limits. It can be very satisfying and sometimes very ugly. However, I (like you Fil) feel like auto tune would be sacrilege. Great subject Fil. You’re the best bro!! 🇺🇸
@Stubahn
@Stubahn 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on Fil; no apology required. Auto-tune in music, VAR in soccer, Grammarly in composition. Can't we just enjoy the pleasures of raw human emotion anymore? Never thought I'd ever pull a verse from 10cc, but "art for art sake, money for god sake" seems appropriate.
@mikec3756
@mikec3756 5 жыл бұрын
Love this guy's passion...
@darlatidwell6255
@darlatidwell6255 4 жыл бұрын
Got to see REO Speedwagon outdoors @Tulsa Fairgrounds back in1987. Great concert! Been a fan since 1977, RIP Gary Richrath and God bless. But I agree Fil, REO does not need auto tuning. Awesome video! 🤘
@daveadams1320
@daveadams1320 5 жыл бұрын
Fil That is a perfect summation of the music today. I fell in love with music because of how it makes me feel and think. I never expected a perfect sound. And this an amazing song that got me through a tough breakup many years ago
@cindymarksberry8128
@cindymarksberry8128 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that you explained this. I immediately heard the difference but assumed it was because he's getting older and just sounds different.
@toben42
@toben42 5 жыл бұрын
Their opening music sounds so clean. I feel REO is underappreciated.
@GS-xt8fu
@GS-xt8fu 5 жыл бұрын
Always respected REO. Excellent songwriting, great lead and talented musicians.
@darlatidwell9995
@darlatidwell9995 5 жыл бұрын
That's telling them Fil. (The auto tune commandos). I agree. I saw REO Speedwagon at the Tulsa Fairgrounds in 1987 and they really put on a good show. Kevin had a great voice live. Great analyses! 👍
@floatthecreek
@floatthecreek 5 жыл бұрын
What I love about this channel is that Fil knows the difference between an "ARTIST" and a "performer." Excellent work Fil.
@amjrpain919
@amjrpain919 2 жыл бұрын
"Golden Country" is as relevant today as it was 40 some odd years ago. And it Rocks!...
@adventuretravelromance
@adventuretravelromance 7 ай бұрын
First song that I ever heard by REO in 1972 on FM radio. I love the video that was released of Golden Country with the Trade Towers and Iraq War.
@annadoo3151
@annadoo3151 5 жыл бұрын
So refreshing to hear analysis from a true music lover! You're so right here. The industries are just mass producing "perfection" for profit (movies with CGI, music with auto-tune, photos with photoshop, etc.). The creativitiy and authenticity is lost in those processes. I don't have a problem with using those processes, but within reason and not live.
@bob4919
@bob4919 5 жыл бұрын
Spinal Tap never employed auto-tune. They were real man!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 5 жыл бұрын
Auto-tune cant go to 11!😳
@garylaverty6607
@garylaverty6607 5 жыл бұрын
Autotune is incompatible with dubly noise reduction.
@seamus2112ophelan
@seamus2112ophelan 5 жыл бұрын
@@garylaverty6607 Bahahaha!
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 5 жыл бұрын
@@garylaverty6607 , "Dubly" noise reduction? Is that a misspelling of Dolby or a Spinal Tap joke that I don't remember all these years later?
@garylaverty6607
@garylaverty6607 5 жыл бұрын
@@goodun2974 it's a Spinal Tap joke.
@jontwest
@jontwest 5 жыл бұрын
If I could I’d give this 1000 thumbs-up - thanks for calling out & analysing the destruction of the human connection we used to get in music. This is by far the best music reaction/analysis channel on the net.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@dennisjohndreher7258
@dennisjohndreher7258 5 жыл бұрын
Quick story about REO, a friend of mine came back from Indiana University in the early 70s and was raving about this great band REO Speedwagon. Little did we know this unknown band in 1972 would turn out to be a super group.
@detroitlady7201
@detroitlady7201 5 жыл бұрын
Being from the 60's and 70's era in music, you are spot on Fil. My grandsons are very much into music, much from my era because I've shown them the greats and turned it up so they can "feel" what we did back then, to some degree. They realize that TALENT was needed to make back then, no computers, auto tune or anything else. Pure skill and talent!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 5 жыл бұрын
Well put Fil.
@cindypowers4993
@cindypowers4993 4 жыл бұрын
Oh the humanity!! I agree 100% with you Fil. So so sad the state of music today. I was looking for something real, someone real and honest , a genuinely talented artist who played the music I loved. That's when I stumbled across your channel. I'm glad there was someone else(you), who felt the same way I did. 🤘☮️
@mitch5699
@mitch5699 5 жыл бұрын
If Autotune hadn't been invented we would have never heard the names of more than half the "Artists" we have today. That's probably why I love to play acoustic guitar so much it's as honest as it gets. REO No doubt Absolute Professionals at what they do. I'm sure they've had a blast doin it. "Take It on The Run" my personal favorite. Especially the Solo's. Thanks Fil great and honest job as usual. See you Tuesday. ." Live Eruption" Yer The Ambassador To The People Of Rock. Melt our faces off ! ROCK 🤘
@donna3465
@donna3465 5 жыл бұрын
YES and thank you, Fil, for being the one who finally has the guts to say it out loud. This is one of the most honest videos on KZbin, and anyone who listens to music needs to watch this. You’re THE MAN, Fil! 🙌🏻👏🏻❤️
@hainanbob6144
@hainanbob6144 5 жыл бұрын
There are a few songs that when I sing them, my voice cracks with emotion, sometimes I even cry. How does autotune deal with that? I prefer 'real' myself. Great rant by the way, I loved it. You are absolutely right that music needs to be felt, not just heard.
@kennethgoin628
@kennethgoin628 5 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest compliments I ever received from someone attending one of my band's performances was, "I'd heard your guys's demo and thought, 'They're pretty good, I'll have to check them out', but now that I'm here I'm really impressed! I don't mean to berate your recording project, because it's good, but you guys are even better live and I think your band is one of the Twin Cities' best!" Those words are everything you're talking about in this analysis, and I couldn't agree more. I've been out of the game long enough that I don't have any time with auto-tune but as I started watching this video I thought, "There's something different going on here" and I was wondering what I was picking up on. And then you pointed it out. Excellent job sharing, teaching, and enlightening the viewer!
@michaelholycross8718
@michaelholycross8718 5 жыл бұрын
That whole album was incredible. "Roll with the Changes" is also a fantastic song. 😊
@jeffreyg607
@jeffreyg607 Жыл бұрын
Fil, your best observation to date, truly. Live and raw is always best. Makes me hug my bootleg DVDs and video tapes of live concerts💯❤
@Hipnosis65
@Hipnosis65 5 жыл бұрын
Listen to Exile On Main Street by The Stones. Recorded in Keith Richards basement. Raw, rough, Rolling Stones. Perfect.
@Gamevet
@Gamevet 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice it, until you had mentioned it. I stepped back the video, and noticed where auto-tune kicked in. My brother was showing me one of his songs on youtube and he was cringing about that version not using auto-tune. I was shaking my head inside, because my thought was that he needed to believe in his true sound.
@rphnick
@rphnick 5 жыл бұрын
ITA!!! I can't imagine how Johnny Cash's version of Hurt would sound like utter crap if it had been auto-tuned... his expression and feeling when he sings it absolutely guts me every time! The sanitized version would do nothing to move me.
@jerryp7721
@jerryp7721 5 жыл бұрын
REO always a must see back in the day! Still great. Thanks Fil.
@davidmohr1920
@davidmohr1920 5 жыл бұрын
Brother I could not have said it better myself Kevin has such a beautiful voice the bands need control of the final product so people cannot mess with their music like that your right everything is about money these days art goes by the way side over greed on a positive note I love this video the twelve string sounds awesome Kevin glides around the stage playing that incredible intro and I love so many of their songs but this one holds a special place in my heart Thank You for your passion Fil :-)
@Cyrano66
@Cyrano66 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Fascinating discussion on Auto Tune. I really learned a lot. I think I know what you mean about how Auto Tune kind of gives everyone the same "stock" timbre to their vocal sound. I really admire and appreciate your dedication to music, Fil. Your integrity is refreshing , man .
@bighouse6120
@bighouse6120 5 жыл бұрын
REO was one of those bands that came around every year during the 70's and into the 80's in the midwest. They had so many recognizable songs. I think we took them a little for granted back then. They've been "Riding the Storm Out" for a long time.
@Marcel_Audubon
@Marcel_Audubon 5 жыл бұрын
agree totally - they were always a part of the Midwest summer concert festival scene AND yes, we did take them for granted (coz we were dazed and confused haha)
@SamtheMan0508
@SamtheMan0508 5 жыл бұрын
That was great Fil. How it sounds vs how it feels..that sums it up. So many old songs remind me of times and places and how I felt at the time.
@MrJoseph6119
@MrJoseph6119 5 жыл бұрын
I love REO Speedwagon! Never seen them live though! I was always at a Dream Theater or Van Halen show!! REO Speedwagon are amazing!
@RN-2444
@RN-2444 5 жыл бұрын
REO live was awesome. The key-boardest worked so hard to keep up with the rest of the Band. Me and my friend love Riden' the Strom Out...
@MisterBaltimoron
@MisterBaltimoron 5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT JOB FIL ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bobot1981
@bobot1981 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't even notice that this was autotuned. I'm glad you noticed, and I'm glad it pissed you off. RIP Gary Richrath.
@ianshortall3356
@ianshortall3356 5 жыл бұрын
That is a rant, but well deserved, the Music industry needs to change, but it never will its a billion dollar industry... I hope you are correct that in 30 years it will be independent artists that will take over... I am hoping to be one of them :)
@beachgirl4583
@beachgirl4583 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Shortall, It’s happening now. We don’t have to wait 30 years. You can write, play, record, and sell your own albums.
@ianshortall3356
@ianshortall3356 5 жыл бұрын
@@beachgirl4583 True, but we still don't have the reach that the publishing and record labels do... but it is slowly changing... we need artists to do their own thing and bypass the large music industry, it will happen...
@beachgirl4583
@beachgirl4583 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Shortall, The only obstacles new artists face are lack of airplay, and promotion by labels. Newer bands won’t get $$$ advances from record labels, but they also won’t get screwed over and receive tiny percentages of their sales. (Look up Badfinger for one of the most tragic stories of the destruction of a band, ever.) Retain the rights to all of the music you write. A friend of mine did that, and his former band can’t touch his songs. Fil’s album is on iTunes (Apple Music). A local LA band with three songs on YT is on iTunes. Spotify has helped put Highly Suspect on people’s radar. Other bands promote smaller bands. The Foo Fighters helped Ghost (not my cup of tea, but that’s irrelevant). They may be touring with Halestorm, which gives them more exposure. Badflower is helping Fencer. Music distribution is changing now. We can buy directly from the artists. Take your time (the Ferrari can wait for a few years- that’s all a big label will get you fast). Rock!
@ianshortall3356
@ianshortall3356 5 жыл бұрын
@@beachgirl4583 All very good points... and Prince put out his own music for years, he was so prolific but did all the distribution and promotion online through his own websites etc...
@ianshortall3356
@ianshortall3356 5 жыл бұрын
Also have a look at what happened to Meatloaf and Billy Joel in the 80s... they where screwed by the record labels and managers got hardly anything from their first couple of hit albums... rediculess really, they gave their best work away for nothing... I hope the industory gets a rude awakening soon...
@shariwelch8760
@shariwelch8760 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this rant, It's exactly how I feel. I'm in my 50's and I used to work in record stores back in the day - plus I've seen countless hundreds of bands live. I'm so sad about auto-tune. But I do feel that there will some day be a rediscovery of real live performance.
@kurtiswichmann4699
@kurtiswichmann4699 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fil for voicing how I also feel. The business insults true artists. I buy no "new" artists nowadays. I refuse to spend my money on fakers. Anyone with a soul should do the same. In the day I bought private collections and estate collections. I can safely say you probably can't name a recording artist or artists from the beginning of recorded music to this day that I do not have, EXCEPT for music made by new "artists" in the last 15 years. I buy 5 to 10 new cds monthly but only to fill in holes in the library. I'm not about to spend my money on crap artists that use artificial means to make "music". Period. That came from 50 years of searching and collecting. I have Wings of Pegasus - Persistence.
@Tony-5000
@Tony-5000 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE IT!! Fil... THANK YOU 👍 I knew you would eventually say this because you LOVE music and you are genuine 👍
@zenzicubik476
@zenzicubik476 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm singing this note 'cause it fits in well..With the chords I'm playing...I can't pretend there's any meaning here....Or in the things I'm saying...But I'm in tune...Right in tune...I'm in tune...And I'm gonna tune.....Right in on you...Right in on you.....Right in on you." Getting In Tune, the Who.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 5 жыл бұрын
Zenzi Cubik To those of us who have a lifelong love of music, those words have one meaning, somewhat ironic. To the bozos programming radio and producing pop music, those very same words have no ironic meaning whatsoever. They literally don’t know the meaning.
@duncan.5228
@duncan.5228 5 жыл бұрын
Never seen you so pumped Fil :D :D And rightly so. Agree wholeheartedly as a 70 yr old muso been listening to music since the 50's, in real time.
@barbaradownie3265
@barbaradownie3265 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY F IL! AUTO TUNE IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. THE HUMAN VOICE IS A BEAUTIFUL THING 😍 I DON'T WANT TO HEAR A ROBOT VOICE 🤖🤖🤖🤖
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 5 жыл бұрын
💖🎸🤘💯
@mr.smithgnrsmith7808
@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 5 жыл бұрын
It’s AWFUL
@LostAndFoundLive
@LostAndFoundLive 5 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!! I've always enjoyed your comments and I like the positive way you do it but I REALLY appreciated your analysis of this video and your commentary on the industry. I love a lot of REO's stuff (and I did see them live with Chicago last year) and as you say, "THEY DON'T need this extra processing!!!! As a cover band gigging 50+ year old musician trying to do my best with my band to play this great music from the 70s-90s, it just makes me sick the way talented musicians use autotuning, backing tracks, click tracks whatever to make their "wall" of sound. Please industry, listen to Fil's voice. Let's get back to pure music (particularly vocals) from the heart and soul and not from software!
@onthe1481
@onthe1481 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I wish you would've picked one with the late great Gary Richrath
@pederengebretson6826
@pederengebretson6826 5 жыл бұрын
Fil- love the passion you show for art. To summarize your take, “Bullocks to auto tune.”
@scottrobbins6216
@scottrobbins6216 5 жыл бұрын
Goddam beautiful song any man ever had his heart broken it’s for us
@grantwright8071
@grantwright8071 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen you this fired up, Filla !.. But I learnt more about music and its production in ten minutes ,than I had in years..
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