Anguilla voted for independence from St Kitts and Nevis, not the UK. A small insurgency expelled St Kitts and Nevis police so the UK government sent the Royal Marines to restore order. The island then became an overseas territory of the UK in its own right. Quite different to how it’s explained in the video!
@matejlieskovsky96253 жыл бұрын
They did try to become a republic, but yeah, not exactly what the video suggests.
@sionsmedia82493 жыл бұрын
So a colony of a colony tried to become independent but ended up being just a colony.
@richardfrovarp38263 жыл бұрын
@@sionsmedia8249 no. A colony of a colony wanted to be free of the middle layer. After the central government ignored them for long enough, they declared full independence. When the army showed up, they thought it was to remove the middle layer and were welcomed.
@gavincassidy32763 жыл бұрын
Thanks God for that. Do you think they might fuck off home soon?
@Medeasbiggestfan3 жыл бұрын
The people of Anguilla elect their own House of Assembly. If a pro-independence party ever won a majority of the seats, they could hold a referendum on independence. I cannot imagine the current or any future UK parliament going against the explicit wishes of the Anguilla people.
@OmarJames3 жыл бұрын
Bermuda resident here. No I do not want independence and while there is more support for independence than there was in the 90s, the vast majority here still agree with me. Our relationship with the UK is beneficial and I can’t see much point for a 21 sq mile island with 60k people to strike out on our own.
@RyakkiBaka3 жыл бұрын
one of us. one of us.
@wtfamiactuallyright18233 жыл бұрын
What!?! You don't want to be ruled by China?
@OmarJames3 жыл бұрын
@@wtfamiactuallyright1823 i don’t wanna learn chinese. It looks hard 😖
@ricardoguanipa82753 жыл бұрын
The same as the Dutch Islands, the only people calling for the islands independence live in the Netherlands and they don't even speak the Papiamento and may have never been and any of the islands ever in their lives
@shrek_has_swag23443 жыл бұрын
@Aldo Steel what?
@Imperial_Lions3 жыл бұрын
So I’m from the Cayman Islands 🇰🇾. You forgot to mention that when Jamaica declared independence in 1962 the Cayman Islands were part of Jamaica. We by an overwhelming majority voted to remain British and became a overseas territory. God Save The Queen! 🇰🇾🇬🇧🇰🇾🇬🇧
@t.wcharles21713 жыл бұрын
so like Mayotte in France
@T0M_X3 жыл бұрын
Respect to you
@jammydodger14493 жыл бұрын
From UK here, I view everyone in the overseas territories as British and you should come visit the mainland some time. God save the Queen!
@eoghancarpenter85463 жыл бұрын
God save these nuts
@T0M_X3 жыл бұрын
@@eoghancarpenter8546 arent you hard
@SuperJerseyGamer3 жыл бұрын
I'm not from overseas territory but from Crown Dependency of Jersey I know in recent years we have had many UK politicians critics the fact we don't follow the UK when it makes decisions and have personal been told I'm not British I really think that all these territories need MP in parliament because we are equals and deserve that representation.
@Psyk603 жыл бұрын
@@jnimitzch4738 People from Jersey are British in the sense that they have British citizenship.
@SuperJerseyGamer3 жыл бұрын
@@jnimitzch4738 where not British really the people of this island have fought for Britain died for Britain protected the king from Cromwell. And so what if we have different laws and taxes so do Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are they not British?
@droge1923 жыл бұрын
If you don't pay taxes into the UK coffers, you are *not* equals. It seems Jersey wants to have it's cake and eat it.
@SuperJerseyGamer3 жыл бұрын
@@droge192 mate we don't pay UK tax because we don't get shit from the UK we don't have NHS or any other service we even have to pay for defence that all comes from the island residents pockets and because we don't have service your average person pays a lot more in taxes over here if we where made equal we would pay less taxes and we do pay some UK tax on goods that come from UK so some items we got to pay both UK and Jersey tax so hey UK want my tax money they can have it less taxes I have to pay 😂. What about the people in UK who pay 0% tax in UK are they not equal citizens and why should a government that decides on foreign policy and economic policy not be held accountable to people it represents like a democracy should like it or not we are BRITISH CITIZENS and we have a right to equality and we have earned that right again and again by fighting in your wars paying money to the crown but u always get people like you who think we should be nothing but slaves and its disgusting thats there are people who can't treat people who share a 1000 year history with the UK as equals
@felixlafleurie78563 жыл бұрын
@@droge192 Like BREXIT
@spencerjohnson84463 жыл бұрын
I’m from Bermuda (which was settled first in 1609 not 1650) and this video is full of inaccuracies. Bermuda also hasn’t had a military base in decades. Good effort but please do your due diligence.
@hmswarspite32333 жыл бұрын
doesn't Bermuda have the largest royal navy dockyard outside of Britain?
@botcitizen3 жыл бұрын
I just wrote that there are so many inaccuracies in this video that are hard to ignore and take away from this video. What a pity.
@asmartbajan3 жыл бұрын
@@botcitizen I think he keeps saying "Antigua" when he means "Anguilla", because there's no such country as Antigua: It's *Antigua & Barbuda!*
@Grymbaldknight3 жыл бұрын
*Argentina:* "The Pope said we can have the Falklands, so hand them over." *UK:* "We gave the middle finger to the Pope back during the 16th century, so jog on."
@DTChapman13 жыл бұрын
That should be 2 fingers. The middle didn’t come around until America started making a noise
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic78103 жыл бұрын
@@DTChapman1 a charmingly delightful correction quibble.
@Denis-Maldonado3 жыл бұрын
That was extremely simplified for the video, the argentinean claim is based in the french (who colonize the island a year before the UK), soling the islands to Spain, and then Argentina obtain it from Spain after the independence war (even Spain recognize it). And Argentina had settlers there before 1833, if those settlers would been able to vote in a referendum it would have been the other way around in favor of Arg instead of the implanted british population from 1833 onwards.
@shrek_has_swag23443 жыл бұрын
@@Denis-Maldonado Britain occupied one island while the french occupied the other at the same time. The island was mostly empty except for some cows and so argentina sent over 1 guy who claimed to be governor before being removed. There weren’t really native Spanish people there and anyway when most the population doesn’t speak Spanish what do you expect to happen?
@sohopedeco3 жыл бұрын
England waa still Catholic when the treaty of Tordesillas was signed, wasn't it?
@sircoloniser54543 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes the national rock collection
@HomersIlliad3 жыл бұрын
Minerals!
@ricardosmythe25483 жыл бұрын
Biggest overseas territroy and the eez's that come with them by area of any nation on earth. The sun still doesnt set on the British territory. Howd ya like that you little green eyed monster? 😁😂
@drsnova73133 жыл бұрын
@@ricardosmythe2548 Except that there is no British Empire anymore. Apart from in a lot of British people's heads, of course. Also, French territories are 10 times the size of the British ones, but hey, who's counting?
@sircoloniser54543 жыл бұрын
@@drsnova7313 actually Britain’s overseas territories are larger than France both metropolitan and overseas Also the Commonwealth realms is larger than South America, 59% of the former British empire still has the queen as head of state
@primessj3 жыл бұрын
They huge island for example Falklands how are they rocks if your saying that
@dazsmith32013 жыл бұрын
They say the sun never sets on the British Empire. This still rings true as the sun is always shining in at least one of these territories, although Pitcairn has to shoulder the burden alone for about 2 hours!
@Enderwiggan13 жыл бұрын
The sun never set on the British empire because God wouldn't trust them in the dark!
@nicktecky553 жыл бұрын
@@Enderwiggan1 Boom-tish! Get your coat, the magician is next.
@cuebj3 жыл бұрын
@@Enderwiggan1 Nice one! Listen to "English Diplomacy" by The Mighty Sparrow
@fuckthepolice713 жыл бұрын
@@Enderwiggan1 brilliant 🤣🤣
@liamcairns55033 жыл бұрын
The ‘empire’ is long dead and good riddance!
@napoleonibonaparte71983 жыл бұрын
I didn't enjoy my stay in St. Helena. Could the locals tell their council to improve the housing standards there?
@thesudaneseprince96753 жыл бұрын
If you hadn't been such a naughty boy in Elba, you never would have been sent there. 😡
@t.wcharles21713 жыл бұрын
i mean that was one of the largest houses on the island so if you don't like it well tough
@Taurineg3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t check this guys name and I was so confused about this comment
@user-cl7yr3 жыл бұрын
@@Taurineg same lol
@kamanashiskar92033 жыл бұрын
Well, they do have high housing standards already but since you are a POW, you don't get a nice life.
@NeroPop3 жыл бұрын
the realisation when a rock in spain is more in favour of being british than all the countries on the british isles
@paulwood67293 жыл бұрын
Gibraltar isn't in Spain, it's on the Iberian peninsular.
@liamcairns55033 жыл бұрын
Which is part of Spain...
@paulwood67293 жыл бұрын
@@liamcairns5503 Nope, Spain is on the Iberian peninsula not the other way around. Otherwise Portugal would still be a part of Spain.
@cianw29423 жыл бұрын
*British & Irish Isles
@paulwood67293 жыл бұрын
@@cianw2942 The British Isles is the name of an archipelago that includes the island of Ireland. Great Britain and Ireland are countries located in that archipelago.
@OmarJames3 жыл бұрын
So now that Bermuda has made it into a TLDR video, can we get a flag pin?? 😁😁 🇧🇲 Edit: also, all of the foreign military bases in Bermuda have been closed. But we still host US/UK military vessels quite often
@flappetyflippers3 жыл бұрын
Flag pins for all the overseas territories? Flag pin for Gibraltar, Falklands, and of course the British Antarctic territory (PENGUINS) to name a few that I'd also buy!
@OmarJames3 жыл бұрын
@Jake i just don’t see the point in being upset over stuff that happened several hundred years ago. It was a different era. And our current relationship with the UK provides lots of benefits. It is what it is! God save the queen!
@budomk92993 жыл бұрын
@@OmarJames I have a question, do you get representation in parliament? Because you should be British if you want to, but you should also get to participate in creating laws you have to follow.
@budomk92993 жыл бұрын
@@OmarJames also God doesn't need to save her. That woman's immortal 😂
@OmarJames3 жыл бұрын
@@budomk9299, it’s complicated but short version is that we do not have representation in UK parliament. However, we were granted limited self-governance so we have our own parliament and even though we have a governor appointed by the crown, they mostly stay out of our affairs. But, like i said, it’s complicated. Lots of info on wikipedia if you want more details. Or check out my youtube channel!
@ManilvaRS3 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe there was no mention of squirrelling away money. I’ve worked in Gibraltar for over a decade now. I find it highly ironic that Aaron Banks uses Gib to avoid tax in the U.K. and diverted money through his many businesses registered on the rock to fund the vote leave campaign which ultimately dragged Gibraltar out of the EU despite 96% voting to remain.
@Felix-cn5vf3 жыл бұрын
I hope you talk about the French bank and their grip on west Africa in one of your future ones. France is still quite the colonial power.
@TheLastAngryMan013 жыл бұрын
Yup, la françafrique puts the UK to shame in terms of exercising control over former colonies. France has supported several military coups, maintains a lot of military bases and has a lot of West African countries by the short and curlies as it controls the CFA Franc. I'd go as far as to say that several former French colonies are independent only in a very limited sense.
@benb12343 жыл бұрын
@@TheLastAngryMan01 yeah whereas Britain’s relationship is limited, for the most part, only to trade with its former colonies (as it should be) and only co-operates further with few countries like Australia or Canada
@TheLastAngryMan013 жыл бұрын
@@benb1234 Depends on the colonies in question, I guess. Some, like Gibraltar, are quite dependent on Britain in terms of being outpost garrisons or whatnot. And then there are institutions such as the Commonwealth for political, sporting and cultural interactions . But yes, generally the UK has less clout over its former colonies in terms of decision-making, which is a good thing for all concerned.
@benb12343 жыл бұрын
@@TheLastAngryMan01 the thing with Gibraltar and others is they are still British territories whereas I was referring to former colonies who have full independence. The overseas territories, like this video said are still dependent on Britain for military and financial support, apart from that yeah you’ve hit the nail on the head with the commonwealth and all that
@purpledevilr74633 жыл бұрын
I wish britain still had something like that. Thus canzuk.
@tim012633 жыл бұрын
It was a little misleading about Anguilla, they were lumped in with St.Kitts and Nevis to be independent. The St.Kitts police were station on Anguilla, and incredibly unpopular, the locals evicted them, and the British Army came to restore order. Anguilla was separated from St.Kitts and Nevis to be it's own British Overseas Dependent Territory, an arrangement that was more popular than full independence, given it's size and population. I lived in the BVI for many years, there's no real independence movement, and they are very much self-governing. When Hurricane Irma destroyed the islands, the RFA Mount's Bay was a very welcome sight for reconstruction and relief. The UK pays for significant infrastructure there. The governor Gus Jaspert yesterday announced a move to investigate corruption by local government, similar to what happened when London assumed direct governance of the Turks and Caicos.
@hallamhal3 жыл бұрын
Anguilla: we want independence Britain: *loads shotgun* Shame.
@grail683 жыл бұрын
Why did they not let Anguilla become independent, when they were letting all the other Caribbean territories become independent around the same time?
@ricardosmythe25483 жыл бұрын
@@grail68 they dont want independance. There was an uprising, independance and referendum in the past and a majority voted to remain a UK territory, the UK sent paratroopers with police back in after the referendum and not 1 shot was fired. Being part of the UKs sphere means your system works. It may have flaws, it may not be perfect but the idea of being totally independant for most small island nations in the modern world means poverty
@LYNESTARx3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because it's the opposite with Malta, who didn't want independence, but was given it anyway.
@daliyunnan3 жыл бұрын
@@thelightsilent sure you are watching the right video?
@megaangelic3 жыл бұрын
@@grail68 Anguilla didn't want independence form the UK, it wanted independence from St Kitts & Nevis. They wanted to remain a UK territory in their own right. So that's what they got.
@Heva19873 жыл бұрын
I am sad I didn't see Dhekelia and Akrotiri on ur list. I was born i Dhekelia, it is classed as an Over Seas British Territory. I get odd looks when people ask me place of birth and they think I'm some how not british. I have british parents and stuff but I have had people over speak english to me and ask if I understood and spoke english. My response was "I clearly speak it better than you love."
@SirAntoniousBlock3 жыл бұрын
The English despise everyone.
@gojimovedchannel14782 жыл бұрын
You technically are British
@Heva19872 жыл бұрын
@@gojimovedchannel1478 yeah I'm british due to my parents but when ever I'm asked birth place and say Dhekelia people assume I am not British.
@giorgosyiangou53242 жыл бұрын
If they assume your not British then, they are ignorants. Not only Dhekelia but a whole area around Dhekelia (including villages) until St. Nicholas base are British lands. I live in that area and I know, my mother is not British but she has British overseas passport. Btw I used to work in the military bases a decade ago. Nice memories.
@TheEssentialReads3 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend (Argentinian) and I (British) have had a few heated discussions about the Falkland Islands haha
@francisdevlin83473 жыл бұрын
Me and my Spanish girlfriend about Gibraltar too haha
@qasimmir71173 жыл бұрын
Well, your girlfriend is wrong.👍🏼
@andresmartinezramos75133 жыл бұрын
Thankfully we all know that women are always right XD
@QemeH3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaand here we go, ladies and gentlemen! **grabs popcorn**
@AidenThisWay3 жыл бұрын
My Argentinian partner supports Britain’s stance on the falklands
@Newcras3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the forced expulsion and depopulation of the British Indian Ocean Territory.
@TheHerramar3 жыл бұрын
Something like that was done in Gibraltar and they also don't mention it. Curious, isn't it?
@andresmartinezramos75133 жыл бұрын
@@TheHerramar And if I recall correctly, it also happened in the Falklands
@QemeH3 жыл бұрын
@My head is a lethal weapon Exactly. They were colonised by spanish and british people at different times, both temporarily abandoned their claims there, but the British made it stick in the end as explained in the video.
@roisinmalone30153 жыл бұрын
It's the planter stuff. If you replace the local populations of territories with British planters, then their descendants are going to want to stay part of Britain. It's the policy of plantations that needs to be looked at within the British Empire. This is how they hold onto territories.
@peskypsittacosaur3 жыл бұрын
@@roisinmalone3015 It was a known fact that the Falkland Islands were uninhabited when European empires came across it. Prior to that there was evidence of human life once on it but by the time the French and the British established colonies, there was no one there.
@normanstewart71303 жыл бұрын
"Good governance......". Sounds great, can they do this for the UK too?
@nachoqualsevol5543 жыл бұрын
good colonial obedience...
@rosmeartoo3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one of the key reasons for retaining the relationship between BOT & UK is the ability to profit from tax avoidance schemes that benefit weathly, politically well connected, UK residents and provide easy money for the residents without too many questions asked, particularly useful if the resident happens to be a lawyer, accountant or "business man".
@kenarf43 жыл бұрын
I get that the main focus of the video is politicus but it is still striking not to see any mention of tax avoidance and money laundering that UK is facilitating through these territorries. I would love to see a followup on these topics since in my opinion they are much more important.
@alexpotts65203 жыл бұрын
I'm sure TLDR has already done a video on tax havens
@Antonov153 жыл бұрын
Ugh, as someone from the "worst tax haven in the history of tax havens" (I'll let you guess which) I can honestly say I'm sick and tired of this stigma Please actually do some research instead of regurgitating the same old stereotype that keeps getting portrayed in film and TV. This is like saying all Brits speak the Queen's English and walk around in top hats and monocles saying "indubitably" all day. The facts bare the truth themselves.
@Boreasos3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wish there was a skip intro button on your channels, since you spend up to a minute plugging your other channels, some merch, other videos or all three in every. single. video. and it's getting to the point where it's straight up annoying. I do enjoy most of your content, but if it's a chore to start one of your videos and wait for you to get to the point then I worry you will drive away new, and existing, viewers.
@Boreasos3 жыл бұрын
@@annaCMW19 I've also been here about as long, but I'm a fan and not a fanboy. I want them to succeed and I believe that is done best by giving constructive feedback rather than just making excuses for things that can have long term detrimental effects.
@dpc45483 жыл бұрын
@@Boreasos I agree. It's like biographics putting 7 ads in their videos with a 5 minutes spoken ad in the middle. It's not saying "I hate this channel" to point out that's a bad idea. This criticism makes sense to me. It would make more sense to put it at the end.
@YeahButCanISniffUrPantsFist3 жыл бұрын
@@annaCMW19 sorry but with the vast amount i spend watlich tjeir videos, its not about "giving a single minute", its about hearing the same thing over and over. I already know their merch and i did already buy some. I do want a skip button
@texasred56653 жыл бұрын
Press the right arrow key a few times or repeatedly tap the right side of yor touch screen. Simple
@dpc45483 жыл бұрын
@@texasred5665 the good thing is that these guys listen to criticisms in a mature manner and that sort of thing isn't so necessary now. It's not completely gone, but at least they listen and it's far less obtrusive now.
@maclaurent13 жыл бұрын
I live in Bermuda, I have yet to see a colony that went independent and succeeded ! Plenty that haven't, there is a contingent here that want it! My feeling is leave things alone! I have 2 passports a Bermuda passport which allows me visa less access to the USA only 2 countries have this, the Canadians and us! This is nice! But I also have a BOTC passport! Pre Brexit gave me easy access to Europe and basically every where else I have travelled! We make our own laws and Britain really doesn't intrude on our life here, ! I get to use British embassies when I travel, only needed to do so once! But it was important we can't have our own worldwide,or really anywhere! On the other hand independence would mean we could have our own flag! I have no problem with the one we have!
@sion83 жыл бұрын
If Gibraltar is anything to go by, that isn't really a problem; the flag thing, I mean.
@RM-bv1xm3 жыл бұрын
The only major thing about the overseas territories I disagree with is not letting the natives from the british indian ocean territory to return there.
@kamanashiskar92033 жыл бұрын
They can't return back. The UK bought it in 1965 and isn't willing to sell it.
@arcreations1643 жыл бұрын
As a national of Anguilla (An - Gwil-La) it kind of goes like this. Anguilla: We have finally broken away from St Kitts and Nevis in a bloodless revolution to be our own country, thanks Britain for the support 👍🏾 Britain: No problem, I think we will be sticking around a little bit longer.
@Jack-di4ox3 жыл бұрын
Love to hear that❤️ present Britain is nothing like colonial Britain
@checkerslane8 ай бұрын
That's a lie. That's not what happened. Not even close. Anguilla never wanted independence from UK. They just never wanted to be part of St Kitts.
@NzePriddie3 жыл бұрын
Am from the The Caribbean, would like your TLDR to do a video on how can a country go about renouncing it’s Independence and becoming a British over seas territory once more.
@chesterdonnelly12122 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that can happen
@NzePriddie2 жыл бұрын
@@chesterdonnelly1212 Mr Donnelly can you please explain too me why if can’t happen ?.
@chesterdonnelly12122 жыл бұрын
@@NzePriddie it's the wrong direction. We are way past the days of expanding the empire. It seems that we're probably also past the days of countries seeking independence. However, reading about how Anguilla became independent of Saint Kitts and Nevis, and became a BOT, I don't see why this scenario couldn't happen again. If a tiny Caribbean island's population wanted to become independent of a larger island and go back to BOT status I don't think that would be very difficult or expensive for Britain.
@andrewccochrane8052 Жыл бұрын
no chance we have enough crime to deal with jamaica can go suck thier thumbs
@NzePriddie Жыл бұрын
sorry for the late reply . Rejoining the empire is not a wrong direction. In my opaion reasons being, therewas never a vote by the people who were at the time british citzens, to become independent , it was unfair and unjustified to throw out an entire kingdom or realm , out of the United Kingdom without a vote on the matter.
@Cunnysmythe3 жыл бұрын
I'm a second generation Montserrattian. From what I can tell most people are indifferent toward the British, only historians really dislike them. Independence isn't feasible at all. The island is smaller than Birmingham and as far as I'm aware doesn't really export anything
@FranzBieberkopf9 ай бұрын
How is the volcano on Monserrat going along these days?
@Cunnysmythe9 ай бұрын
@@FranzBieberkopf What amazing timing. I just got back four hours ago from almost a week spent there and there wasn't a peep out of the volcano. I hadn't been there for eight years.
@FranzBieberkopf9 ай бұрын
@@CunnysmytheGlad the Montserratians are safe 😊😊
@dean10393 жыл бұрын
The power of the UK passport is not in decline at all. In fact according to the new passport index ranking for 2021, the British passport has risen one place higher after Brexit than it was before. That will only continue to increase as the UK negotiates independent visa-free travel deals with nations across the world, not least with the 54 nation Commonwealth.
@Mrfizzly3 жыл бұрын
Interesting I live in the UK so this is good news for me can you give me a link to an article supporting this👍
@dean10393 жыл бұрын
@@Mrfizzly Research the 'Passport Index', my friend.
@Mrfizzly3 жыл бұрын
@@dean1039 thanks :)
@dean10393 жыл бұрын
@@Mrfizzly You are worthy of raise, God save the King, my friend!
@Mrfizzly3 жыл бұрын
@@dean1039 We also going to be president of g7 so that will help us get some influence and help our passport a bit.
@NeroPiroman3 жыл бұрын
VIRGIN every other territory with union jack vs CHAD gibraltar with a castle
@varangianguard47263 жыл бұрын
That meme is getting old
@NeroPiroman3 жыл бұрын
@@varangianguard4726 it is pefectly accurate here though
@cueball69693 жыл бұрын
@@varangianguard4726 The Virgin Vs Chad meme will NEVER get old
@bunceman46133 жыл бұрын
I find flags with just the Union Jack Canton to be lazy. Have fun with your own flags.
@olsenfernandes36343 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around...
@michaelbaker5501 Жыл бұрын
I don't think any of the territories could survive as independent. Their populations and economies are too small
@cescfy42083 жыл бұрын
I am a Catalán living in England. The beauty of the relationship between the UK and the territories is that there is respect for the interests of the local communities. I have the feeling that overall, it is beneficial for the local people, and if not, the can have a referèndum and leave, as it has have happened in many other cases. The territory citizens have the freedom to live in mainland UK. I am not sure it is reciprocal in all cases.
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic78103 жыл бұрын
Australia explained: It would be more hassle to become a republic at this stage than it is to stay a Commonwealth nation.
@cammysmith75623 жыл бұрын
The Australian Republican movement has always been led by politicians and wealthy Australians that would rather spend hundreds of million on a pointless referendum rather than spend it on you know things like starving children, struggling families and Aboriginal communities. I’ve yet to actually be told any benefit of us being a republic that we don’t have, from my understanding the only thing that would change would be the title of Governor General to President.
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic78103 жыл бұрын
@@cammysmith7562 the only benefit I can claim is that the Queen would loose the ability to removed our head of state. People still remember Gough. It would be our version of brexit, massively detrimental to the country of only some minor superficial gains.
@jmvp13803 жыл бұрын
More like, they wanna follow America's footsteps
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic78103 жыл бұрын
@Kevin You please don't mistake me for someone who holds those beliefs, merely playing devil's advocate. I should clarify my Gough statement though. The vast majority remember only the imagery of Gough's "well may we say..." Speech but have forgotten the nuances of the situation. So the ignorant see only a foreign head of state with an effective veto power on our head of state. (Again to be clear, this is not my belief)
@sionsmedia82493 жыл бұрын
You could also become a Chinese puppet.
@FreshVito_bg2 жыл бұрын
I think small independent islands will be to weak to handle everything. The British are keeping the overseas population happy by a lot of things. So I think their okay under their wing.
@olivermoore70203 жыл бұрын
I was actually born in the Falkland Islands. My father was working there at the time and so my family was living there for 2-3 years. I was about 18 months old when we came back to the UK (where I grew up), so I am by no means a Falkland Islander. I have however, always felt a connection to the islands. I'm well-read in the history and geography of the islands and would love to go back there one day. I often find myself at-odds with many of my fellow left-wingers, as I support British sovereignty of the islands as a matter of self-determination. I'm also highly sceptical of the Argentinian claim that the islands were "stolen from them in 1833" - that said, British claims over what happened in 1833 need to be treated with a pinch of salt too - the general impression I get is that what really happened then is not entirely clear. Either way, the current inhabitants of the islands have been there, in some cases for 5-6 generations, so even if their ancestors were "implanted" (a word often used in these debates) - that's not their descendants' fault. And regarding the Falklands War in 1982, I would also point out the brutality of the governing Argentine regime at the time (see: Dirty War in Argentina form 1976 to 1983) - so it seems justified for Britain to go to war to protect its subjects (however few in number) from such a regime. Though I do admit to being somewhat biased on this issue, and I also acknowledge that the UK government, in reality, probably cares little for the islanders and more about the potential oil in the area and access to Antarctica - but that doesn't invalidate the principle of self-determination. Having said all that, Britain's relationship with some its other territories is sketchy. I never knew about what happened in Anguilla until watching this video. Also, not mentioned in this video, is the history of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT). I understand that the BIOT islands were separated from the Seychelles, before the Seychelles became independent, and the inhabitants were expelled in the 1960s to make way for the UK/US military bases. I've read into the issues about the BIOT lately, and this is definitely something where the UK are in the wrong in my view. Britain needs to apologise for expelling the inhabitants, allow them to return if possible, and hand this territory to the Seychelles. Britain hanging on the BIOT, I would argue, undermines our arguments about self-determination of the Falklands, where I believe we are in the right. I would also add that many forget that the Falklands are, by far, not the only territory far away from its governing country. So I'm looking forward to the videos about the US and French external territories (the French overseas territories are far more extensive than Britain's). The Netherlands and Norway have overseas territories as well.
@RafaelW83 жыл бұрын
It boils down to, would you like to have citizenship in Argentina or the UK? Lol, the UK ofc, no one would trade that for Argentina (or 80% of the countries in the world)
@bobboby35673 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the name Islas Malvinas?
@olivermoore70203 жыл бұрын
@@bobboby3567 I couldn't care less what people call them. That isn't the issue.
@cartoonking97353 жыл бұрын
with regards too " I never knew about what happened in Anguilla until watching this video" "Daniel Burns 12 hours ago Anguilla voted for independence from St Kitts and Nevis, not the UK. A small insurgency expelled St Kitts and Nevis police so the UK government sent the Royal Marines to restore order. The island then became an overseas territory of the UK in its own right. Quite different to how it’s explained in the video!"
@bobboby35673 жыл бұрын
@@olivermoore7020 It was just a silly question, don't take it too seriously
@kinginthenorth52673 жыл бұрын
A couple of times you say Antigua when you mean Anguilla. Antigua is an independent country.
@varana3 жыл бұрын
He knows - he even has a little counter in the corner for the mistake. :)
@paulcarroll69953 жыл бұрын
Also hes wrong About what actually happened in Anguilla too.
@SipheDlamini3 жыл бұрын
As an unbiased news source I hope you include FrancAfrique when you talk about France and how it is still a colonial power in West Africa and the Congo.
@KingAgniKai3 жыл бұрын
France needs to Africa alone
@AnexoRialto3 жыл бұрын
The subject of the video is British overseas territories. Not French influence in West Africa. There's no value judgement.
@SipheDlamini3 жыл бұрын
@@AnexoRialto at the beginning of the video he says they'll also release a video of French territories on their EU channel... I'm just making sure that they also put this into consideration. 🤷♂️
@LEWIS19923 жыл бұрын
TLDR News is not unbiased. They are renowned for being left-wing and anti-Brexit, but sometimes try to hide it.
@grahamsouthon5533 жыл бұрын
Strange there's no reference to the role tax havens play in allowing crooks to hide their ill-gained loot.
@tensevo2 жыл бұрын
A more sympathetic view would be that most ppl don't get the fact that Britain and overseas territory, is simply the place where ppl trust their money to be stored, without it being arbitrarily taken by authoritarian regimes and despots. That makes Britain and British Offshore, trustworthy, worthy of trust, and thus a historically safe place to store money. There is thought to be trillions upon trillions of unaccounted for wealth to be called on in the event of crisis.
@hippydudejon3 жыл бұрын
Nice video but you didn't mention the forced removal of British Indian Ocean Territory (Diago Garcia) inhabitants in the 60's and their recent high court and UN battles to be allowed to return to their homes. Though there's probably enough there to make a whole video on. Maybe something for the future.
@guss773 жыл бұрын
I agree. I was very surprised that the section on "controversy" didn't mention Chagos by even a word. As to the current issues there, which are numerous and could easily fill a few videos, I would just hazard a guess that the current rent US pays for the Diego Garcia installation is dwarfed by the economic boon of the .io TLD (currently managed by the same entity that also manages the .ac and .sh TLDs that were robbed from another British-controlled territory).
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
Not gonna happen, we lease the island and will continue to renew the lease each time it comes up similar to how we get Guantánamo Bay from Cuba.
@Mobile-ct1yf2 жыл бұрын
I as a Brit wholeheartedly agree with this CANZUK idea it would strengthen all the countries together.
@cueball69693 жыл бұрын
The British claim to the Falkland Islands dates back to 1690, over 100 years before Argentina was even a country, there is nothing to 'take back'
@M.M.83-U3 жыл бұрын
Argentina "inerited" the Spanish claim after indipendence.
@LoreIlMegio3 жыл бұрын
wait, you split Ascension, Tristan da Cunha and Saint Helena in three while you removed Akrotiri and Dhekelia and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. The count matches but it’s still not correct ^^’
@TheLocalLt3 жыл бұрын
Ascension, Tristan, and St Helena are basically separate territories, the smaller two used to be dependencies of St Helena and flew the British St Helena flag, but now they are equal territories, formally still bound to St Helena in a federation but now flying their own flags. Tristan Da Cunha in fact has its own dependency of Gough Island. Now on the other hand the Antarctic claims and even South Sandwich are defacto not British-held (or held by any other country) because the claims are basically theoretical and military base activity there is conducted separately from international diplomacy.
@sion83 жыл бұрын
@@TheLocalLt The Falklands govern South Sandwich and South Georgia, even though they have their own flag.
@TheLocalLt3 жыл бұрын
@@sion8 not anymore, they have been separate since 1985 although the administrative people are still in the Falklands as you’d expect
@sion83 жыл бұрын
@@TheLocalLt Okay, even the governor or administrator (can't remember the actual title) is the same person for both and as far as I can tell only the Falklands are inhabited, so what's the point of that restructuring in '85?
@kapiosk3 жыл бұрын
What about South Georgia and Akrotiri & Dhekelia?
@edsr1643 жыл бұрын
South Georgia not a constituent part of the Falklands jurisdiction?
@vlogdemon3 жыл бұрын
@@edsr164 pretty sure they’re their own territory
@Dave_Sisson3 жыл бұрын
The remaining Cypriot territories are essentially military bases and supporting infrastructure, so there is no need for a civilian administration. South Georgia has not had a permanent population since the whaling villages were closed down around 60-ish years ago, but it is a separate territory. However the governor of the Falklands always gets the side gig of also being Commissioner(?) of South Georgia which usually has about a dozen people temporarily living there.
@aoconnnell3 жыл бұрын
@@Dave_Sisson still occupied by HMG
@Wolf_O_Badenoch3 жыл бұрын
The areas is Cyprus are governed by the SBAA (Sovereign British Area Administration). It is not a British Overseas Territory, which this video covers. They are a Sovereign British Area.
@Armadeus3 жыл бұрын
could you do a video on what happens to the territories if the uk breaks up
@mohdfauzimaulud41143 жыл бұрын
That sound kinda cool
@nicorivera253 жыл бұрын
It will just simply go to daddy England 🏴.
@NAYRUthunder993 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they would stay under English rule.
@javierslytherin98983 жыл бұрын
Depends of what overseas territory
@Grymbaldknight3 жыл бұрын
It depends. If a country (say, Scotland) splits off from the UK, then the UK keeps all overseas territories. The territories belong to the union itself, not any of its constituent countries. Even if England left the UK, it wouldn't get to keep any territories. Them's the breaks. However, if the UK ceases to exist, then things get more complicated. I don't know how that would play out.
@darkyada713 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important overseas territory: Northern Ireland :^) Just kidding, I'm surprised the UK has 14 territories (2 more than us French) but has only got a 250k population for these. France has 4million inhabitants in its 12 French territories. And TLDR, you better do a great video about French overseas territories. DON'T FORGET OUR EEZ.
@Jack-di4ox3 жыл бұрын
Without trying to be cocky British colonies have always been better or more valuable😉 Singapore Malaysia america Canada Australia New Zealand India Egypt Nigeria and our current territories though less people are much more valuable Cayman Islands, bermuda, Gibraltar,
@ztoical3 жыл бұрын
Tristan Da Cunha has a population of about 200 while Pitcarn has a population of about 50 people so yeah not super impressive as far as overseas territories go and it takes days by ship to get to either.
@darkyada713 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-di4ox that time is over tho, we at least kept Guiana And we have a much bigger EEZ thanks to that
@Natashaa_13 жыл бұрын
Britain had the biggest empire in the world...it’s hardly surprising that the UK has the most overseas territories in the world. Still to this day, 15 Commonwealth realms including Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Jamaica etc have Queen Elizabeth as their Queen, the UK has kept a very good relationship with its former colonies.
@Pablo240003 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-di4ox WE had a much smaller empire, if we count the two French colonial empires, the French empire is equal to the spanish empire, but we had Quebec, Morocco, Tunisia, Viet Nam, parts of india too, which are valuable today, and and French overseas territories are not tax heaven and don't cheat contrary to the uk overseas territories, and even more, the French overseas territories are better ore valuable than their neighbors which are former british islands or territories, now independent, look at Dominica or st Lucia vs Guadeloupe or Martinique, look at Guyana vs French Guiana. France has the first or the second biggest EEZ in the world. And also, France has its own commonwealth less known than the British commonwealth but important which is called LA FRANCOPHONIE which reunite a lot of countries.
@tommoise17473 жыл бұрын
I think a point worth mentioning would have been in the money laundering chain and London connection. That is unilaterally beneficial at significant power level that is. It's not valid for all territories but yeah a lot to do with that here as well
@davedavids573 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the entire population of the British Indian Ocean Territory was deported in the 1960s (the Chagos Islanders). The High Court in London has said they have a right to return but the British Government refuses. BIOT is also claimed by Mauritius who were forced to give it up prior to independence.
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
Not gonna happen, we lease the island and will continue to renew the lease each time it comes up similar to how we get Guantánamo Bay from Cuba.
@kenneth61023 жыл бұрын
They should've held a referendum in Hong Kong before 1997. What a shame they didn't.
@simonb21093 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they couldn't, it had to be handed back as per the treaty. - im sure they would've voted 100% remain
@kenneth61023 жыл бұрын
@@simonb2109 Talking about the treaty, Hong Kong Island and Kowloon would have remained a British territory. It was also another question as to which Chinese government to hand Hong Kong back to. The One China policy wasn't globally recognised back in the late 70's when the negotiation for the Sino-British Agreement began. It is factually clear that Hong Kong wasn't 'handed back' as per treaty. It was a military decision by Peiking at that time to take back HK entirely if it wouldn't be otherwise in 1997. Margaret Thatcher caved to avoid military conflict. At the very least, they could have held a referendum for Hong Kong Island and The Kowloon Peninsula.
@simonb21093 жыл бұрын
@@kenneth6102 That's very interesting, if China decided to take back by force it would certainly not do us any favours on the international scale as it would probably end as an embarrassment for the UK, personally I am not surprised she caved.
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
We need to differentiate between the people before and well after handover. HK people before handover were discriminated against by the whites, so that's why they were very enthusiastic to be returned to the mainland. If you poll HK people today, you might see the older generation preferring China over the UK. The reverse would be true for the younger generations since they didn't live in colonial HK but in the system following the handover (basically the british system with some chinese characteristics)
@ivanc.95733 жыл бұрын
Have heard that China sneakily removed HK from UN list of colonies so they can pressure UK to return it directly instead of the usual procedure of a referendum. Also hi from HK!
@BabulAli3 жыл бұрын
France by far has the most territories, however they aren't a cute little colony, they are literally part of France and the EU.
@megaangelic3 жыл бұрын
The only reason they're set up that way is to get around decolonisation. You can't deconolonise a country if it doesn't have any colonies.
@christophermichaelclarence60033 жыл бұрын
Long live Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte of the French Empire 🟦🟦⬜🦅⬜🟥🟥💪🇫🇷👊
@realnoahsimpson3 жыл бұрын
not *all* of them are
@Natashaa_13 жыл бұрын
Britain has the most overseas territories.
@LEWIS19923 жыл бұрын
Plus tourism! I know a lot of UK residents who want to visit all of the British Overseas Territories and meet the people living there.
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
You CAN’T visit the BIOT unless you’re British military, American military, civilian DoD contractors and the British counterpart to the previously mentioned.
@xXnazmanXx3 жыл бұрын
theres a youtube video for "history matters" where malta actually wanted to be annexed by the uk in the 60's and become a nation in the uk. Everyone was happy with it but 3 reasons made it so that it didnt happen. 1. Military strategy was pointless, britian already had gibraltar which was enough to control that region. Having Malta made no differnece. 2. Malta was seen to actually lose money if the UK decided to annex them as they were starting to become a lot less controlling of nations. 3. Uk population wouldnt have been happy, wouldbe lost a lot of faith in the government and people wouldve hated the idea of malta being equal to them its kind of a shame really
@logandio27633 жыл бұрын
i think the same
@nicholasmontegriffo63603 жыл бұрын
Fabian Picardo is not the Governor of Gibraltar, (representative of head of state, appointed by UK), he's the Chief Minister (head of govt, elected by Gibraltarians).
@louisbeerreviews8964 Жыл бұрын
That is right
@westworthingevangelicalchu27052 жыл бұрын
The British bases on the island of Cyprus are considered British Overseas Territories
@isaacho82303 жыл бұрын
The UK went to war with Argentina over the the Falkland Islands but abandoned HK and fed her to the wolfs.
@sohopedeco3 жыл бұрын
Having nukes is great argument for restoring your lost territory.
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
@@sohopedeco the UK also has nukes but the world was basically in a "no more empires" mood. Plus the HK people born BEFORE the handover wanted to be returned, well the majority of them at least.
@isaacho82303 жыл бұрын
@@warren5037 First, it was a transfer of sovereignty not ‘return’. And I am pretty sure most HK people after 97’ aren’t contend with the SAR gov.
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
@@isaacho8230 'return' is just another colloquial term and I think the reason as to why it is a colloquial term is because a big chunk of what consists modern HK SAR was LEASED to the British for 99 years, basically kicking the problem to future generations. Hong Kong island was the one ceded in perpetuity to the British. And my reply above gives some of the reason as to why the whole of HK was transferred, as you say. HK island and Kowloon Peninsula (plus other small islands around) were too integrated with one another to separate them. The British knew it and the Chinese knew it. Cutting it in two would create more problems (at the time), so the whole region was transferred together, hence a transfer of sovereignty AS WELL AS return.
@isaacho82303 жыл бұрын
@@warren5037 HK was leased by the Imperial Qing Government to the British Empire. And since the Republic is the official Successor State to the Qing, it should be the one to which HK returned; given the civil war never actually ended. Therefore, it was indeed a transfer of sovereignty. In addition, the legitimacy of the transfer is based on the Joint Declaration and exercised through the establishment of the SAR. This process is additionally backed up by the Basic Law and the US Hong Kong Relation Act. Hence, with the many breaches of the agreement, as well as, one could say the breakdown of the Basic Law. I would argue that PRC's sovereignty and governance over the city are no longer legal but occupational.
@FranzBieberkopf9 ай бұрын
Why 14 dependencies and overseas territories? 2 main reasons a-They don't want independence and already have internal autonomy. b-The Antarctic territory and S Georgia are mostly inhabited by penguins who don't have a vote.
@TevilovesYT2 ай бұрын
Replying to a: the Cayman Islands for example could gain independence but we don’t have enough resources and factories to live on our own which is why we chose to stay under the UK but be self govern
@UTubeTulip3 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you left out The Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia in your list of British Overseas Territories? Would seem like a good one to use as an example in the bit about the military.
@savethebeesplantherbs8809 Жыл бұрын
each should get a MP that way all issues are discussed and resolved in Westminster and they should all be unified with the uk as full British citizens have a referendum on that we are better together as one
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
Why no mention of Diego Garcia? The issue is STILL ongoing. How they were and are treated is horrible
@Tobberz3 жыл бұрын
That's the British Indian Ocean territory
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
@@Tobberz I know that. But it seems that TLDR was avoiding this topic in this video. I just want to make sure that people know about this topic. Perhaps, hopefully, TLDR will make a video on it.
@Tobberz3 жыл бұрын
@@warren5037 They missed an awful lot tbh
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
I’m be there on the 28th, and tell ya what I see
@hyperpink3 жыл бұрын
@@elliottprats1910 what did u see
@brucemcnair88873 жыл бұрын
Britain DID not go to war with Argentina. Argentina invaded sovereign British land, they declared war. Like the mouse that roars.
@peskypsittacosaur3 жыл бұрын
Neither declared war, it was an "unofficial" war as such that's why the term conflict is used more often as Argentina nor Britain declared war on each other.
@darkangel0101883 жыл бұрын
Cayman Islands Citizen: For the most part The Islands don't want to go independent at this point or really anytime soon. But, personally do not think the relationship is the fairest. It was recently turned down again that the territories would get MP in the UK parliament which would be the fairest thing. The current set up is one Minister for Overseas Territories appointed by the House of Lords, who was Baroness Sugg but recently resigned over in November over budget cuts. "Cutting UK aid risks undermining your efforts to promote a Global Britain and will diminish our power to influence other nations to do what is right. I cannot support or defend this decision, it is therefore right that I tender my resignation." Baroness Sugg The Cayman Islands' overall relationship has become stress this year because the Ministry of Overseas Territories and Secretary of Foreign Affairs chose to override a decision made in the Cayman Islands Assembly. There was a lot of controversy around the matter, about sovereignty. Also, the increased military presences on the island with the 2020 formation of the Cayman Islands Regiments, British Armed Forces unit has also increased the tensions. So, I think you should do a video over each territory; there is a lot of a lot of interesting pollical history in each.
@darkangel0101883 жыл бұрын
@Gustave III de Suède Cool idea. But since 2002 all BOTC are automatically British Citizens.
@darkangel0101883 жыл бұрын
@Gustave III de Suède I get it. I was really saying why some points are becoming stained. Its not really about representation but by point the UK has direct veto of law that voted in within the territory via a Governor which is appointed by the FCO. And, that it was big issue in the Cayman Islands last year because of it. My personal opinion its all part of the deal when you decide to remain as British Oversea Territory. Thanks for the debate.
@advancelast17403 жыл бұрын
Too many silly errors in this video...expected more from you, maybe some decent research and go for quality and not quantity
@paulcarroll69953 жыл бұрын
Anguilla Being a pretty whopping big one.
@CaribbeanCarnivals3653 жыл бұрын
I think they should delete the video and do it over for quality purposes.
@markbowker32833 жыл бұрын
When you say take back I don’t believe Argentina had them
@olsenfernandes36343 жыл бұрын
Exactly Britain-We've had it under our control for over 200 years and we overwhelmingly won the Referendum Vs Argintina-Spain had them so its ours
@sion83 жыл бұрын
The French seem to be the first to have populated the islands, but left because of Spaniards or natural disaster, I think (but was always claimed by the Spanish crown under the Treaty of Tordesillas). The British decades later settled it, but also left (Spaniards or natural disasters, can't remember which), however, they didn't renounce their claim and so came back decades later and have been there ever since, arguably making them natives as no other group of humans existed during colonial times. Once Argentina was independent they began claiming it under an internationally recognized principal called _uti possidetis juris,_ this is why colonial borders stick, because, the newly independent countries claim as national territory what was claimed by the previous colonial administration; the principal exists so as to not have a vacuum when it comes to land claims, which could and often have led to more wars. All, that history should be take as *H I G H L Y* simplified! That same principal has applied in none colonial settings, such as the break up of countries in the 20th and 21th centuries, see the Soviet Union and the former Soviet Republics, Yugoslavia and ex-Yugoslav states, Czechoslovakia, Czechia and Slovakia, Sudan and South Sudan, Indonesia and East Timor, etc.
@javierreytudela79083 жыл бұрын
You can believe whatever you want, but Argentina did have them until the British invasion in 1833.
@radianman3 жыл бұрын
One correction Mate; the English settled Bermuda in 1609 as a result of the wreck of the Sea Venture, not 1650 as you stated. As such, Bermuda is the oldest continuously settled British colony (the original Jamestown in Virginia was actually abandoned).
@leodouskyron56713 жыл бұрын
Asking the Falklands and Gibraltar about independence is really asking it they want to learn Spanish and possibly loose everything they have to those nations. And while Jamaicans may love American Tourists they see how the us deals with Puerto Rico and would likely take a hard pass on that (because let’s be clear someone has to help them after a hurricane blows though). So I they are not going to be leaving anytime soon.
@curtisdaniel92943 жыл бұрын
A hurricane during grumpy trumpy's reign heavily damaged Puerto Rico, and trumpy uses it as a photo op to tell them all they need is some paper towels to clean the mess up.
@Lando-kx6so3 жыл бұрын
we Jamaicans have been independent since 1962 however we are apart of the commonwealth and make up one of the largest immigrant groups in the UK and are by far the largest immigrant group in the Cayman Islands.
@paulcarroll69953 жыл бұрын
@@Lando-kx6so Jamacia is cool AF tbh.
@Superduper2433 жыл бұрын
10:56 Who knew TLDR were musical theatre fans?!! "I will kill your friends and family....to remind you of my love."
@theforeverchild11912 жыл бұрын
Why would we want independence from the greatest country the world has ever seen.
@fathercay3 жыл бұрын
From the Cayman Islands here; can confirm the UK generally has a hands off approach towards local politics. The only involvement the UK ever has is if they hear any internal conversations of independence, or if they get caught with their pants down having to be involved while local politics can be “iffy”. Even in most BOT’s the issue of LGBTQ+ rights has been a contentious issue, and even here in Cayman, the UK was forced to get involved and even so, the law was underwhelming at best. This happened in 2020 might I add... As a Gen Z Caymanian/British citizen, I do not 100% support the United Kingdom being our rule, but, it does bring us that safety and (some) benefits, while other countries do suffer from independence, as seen with Jamaica. Hell, one great benefits right now is we all (BOTs) have first access to the vaccines, and were one of the first outside the UK to do so
@micallef873 жыл бұрын
Malta actually wanted to be annexed by the U.K. and become the 5th nation back in the 60’s, would people be calling that colonialism in 100 years I wonder?
@louisbeerreviews89643 жыл бұрын
Yep
@MattTheo3 жыл бұрын
What about the two territories in Cyprus that the Uk has control?
@oswald75973 жыл бұрын
Akrotiri and Dhekelia (Officially called the Soveign Base Area) aren't proper overseas territories. They're pretty under the direct control of the MOD since (as the name suggests) they're RAF Stations, so there's not really any government or territorial status.
@Resistor.13 жыл бұрын
Another who doesn't know what their talking about with an opinion. Surprise. They're military bases not territories.
@MattTheo3 жыл бұрын
@@Resistor.1 Nope they're territories of the UK (British Overseas Territory to be exact) that also have military bases...
@MattTheo3 жыл бұрын
@@oswald7597 Kinda phrased it wrong what i mean is it would have been nice if he added some info for Akrotiri and Dhekelia. Live in Cyprus would have been nice to inform other people about it through this vid.
@TheLocalLt3 жыл бұрын
@@oswald7597 nah these are more than just extraterritorial military bases, the territories include civilian neighborhoods, who’s inhabitants are Republic of Cyprus citizens and are administered by Republic of Cyprus police on behalf of the British RAF police, yet they are living in British territory.
@fwcolb3 жыл бұрын
Almost all British overseas territories are self-governing. The 1865 Colonial Laws Validity Act was a milestone in the promotion of self-determination within the imperial system. The 1865 Act ensures that no UK official or minster of the UK Crown may invalidate a law of a colonial legislature without doing so by court action. The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council had and still has jurisdiction. What most will find surprising is how few cases have been brought that have invalidated laws in the overseas territory. Most of the cases consist of highly technical issues of interpretation of law rather than their invalidation. The British approach may be contrasted with the approaches of France and Spain. And explain why the Commonwealth of Nations of present and former British colonies has more than 50 members. And why in so many of these countries there survive favourable memories of the colonial period. I know because I have lived and worked in ten former colonies and protectorates and have colleagues and friends from six others, not counting the US.
@Isaacthegamer1239 ай бұрын
Did you know Bermuda? Has only one fast food restaurant since the inhabitants have mostly banned fast food, except one kfc
@Lobonikk3 жыл бұрын
That’s actually not the Argentinian justification. It is historical context, but the claim is based on Spanish ownership, French settlement (any rights associated with that were passed to Spain), and the forcible removal of the Argentinian presence by the Brits before settling on the islands. It’s messy, and I’m not trying to argue who’s right and who’s wrong at the moment, but TLDR did us a disservice by blithely misstating Argentina’s argument.
@ImLacky3 жыл бұрын
There was no Argentinians, Argentina wasn't a nation at the time.
@Lobonikk3 жыл бұрын
@@ImLacky That’s actually irrelevant since Argentina inherited Spain’s territorial claims. This is a normal and common part of international law. More importantly, TLDR presented an inaccurate statement of Argentina’s argument. No matter which side is right, it’s really important for TLDR to give accurate information so we can form reasonable and informed opinions. If the “information” presented here isn’t accurate, how will I know whether to trust his presentations on issues that I’m less familiar with? Remember that I’m only asking TLDR to accurately portray the arguments. I’m not trying to argue about who’s right and wrong. I just want to know what they are actually saying.
@davidjames49153 жыл бұрын
But even that's not really correct. As things stood in 1812, none of the players - France, Britain, Spain or its colonies - had any effective presence on the islands. Anything that happened prior to that is effectively moot as none maintained a presence after that date (the last to leave being the Spanish). Spain and Britain both maintained their prior claims but I doubt international law would give them much credence if, say, the Dutch had showed up in 1820 and established a colony on the islands that survived into the modern period. It would be another decade before anything at all happened of note, and that was mainly a German entrepreneur named Luis Vernet trying to set up a commercial colony and more-or-less playing both sides so that he would be onside of whoever prevailed in the end. All that came to an end when in 1831 he had an American whaler seized, which resulted in the Americans sending a gunship and effectively vacating the islands once again of any government, if the commercial colony could even be described as such. As it was, the colony had people from various European and South American backgrounds. After that, both Argentina and Britain sent expeditions in late 1832 to assert sovereignty. The Argentines arrived first, in mid November, but their governor was killed during a mutiny which had to be put down by sailors from a French whaler in port. His replacement arrived in a schooner at the end of December and mere days later in January the British arrived and induced the Argentine military presence - basically the schooner - to leave. And that was it. That was all Argentina ever sent. They never even made an attempt to found a settlement elsewhere on the islands. So that's what the Argentine claim really rests on - a few days of military presence around New Year's 1833 in what remained of the commercial colony. Argentina actually held the Falklands for longer in 1982 than they had in 1832-33!
@Lobonikk3 жыл бұрын
@@davidjames4915 International law does not function the way you describe. In the absence of a treaty or other acceptance of the claim, the successor country inherits the claims of the prior country. What really causes me to despair is that someone apparently capable of giving thought to this question has completely missed my point. That is that TLDR purports to be an source of information but clearly and breezily presented something that is not actually the Argentinian argument. This does a disservice to everybody. Nobody, on either side of the argument should be ok with that. And, once again, I’m not trying to argue the merits of either side’s argument here. Getting our sources of information to at least attempt to present mutually-identifiable facts is far more important than the ownership of some small and remote islands.
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
Wow what a coincidence, I’m an American that will arrive on Diego Garcia (BIOT) on the 28th. I’ve been instructed that I’m NOT allowed to patronize the British pub though, and can only drink at the NCO and Officers Club bar.
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
I drink at the Brit club every Friday and Saturday nite 😂, i’ve been presently surprised of how friendly all the British Marines are on this island. Hell it’s their 75th anniversary and their doing run, bike, and swim to celebrate it and I donated 180£ to their charity. Their really a great group of guys even though that call soccer “football” 😂
@michaelbaker5501 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the UK should annex all it's territories like France did
@johannjohann6523 Жыл бұрын
wow The Falkland Islands are almost 1,000 miles from S. America coast? They are isolated. Say what you want, but under British rule all of these "territories" enjoy a level of economic benefit otherwise would not be seen. Look at how Britain built up Hong Kong which became the leader in far east banking and major manufacturing.
@Tintin-hh1gf3 жыл бұрын
Will you make this viedio but for the eu countrys more than france, like kongdom of denmark, netherland, norway, portugal, spain, itally
@a.b.62333 жыл бұрын
What's Itally?
@budomk92993 жыл бұрын
@@a.b.6233 Rood
@clarkf66483 жыл бұрын
TLDR on Gibraltar - "it doesn't get much clearer than that". Gibraltar - overwhelmingly votes to remain a part of the EU and even joins Schengen "hold my cerveza".
@pututeguhdharmawijaya17223 жыл бұрын
Next: earth’s overspace territories around solar system on TLDR global
@varana3 жыл бұрын
Surely they would create a new TLDR Galactic channel for that video.
@BATompsett3 жыл бұрын
@@varana TLDR Interstellar
@renzgonzalez3 жыл бұрын
Also, you forgot to mention the British Overseas Territory of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. It is separated from the Falklands/Malvinas territory.
@Roflmaolinde3 жыл бұрын
Britain: your local supplier of border gore since... well a while.
@tomwaller68933 жыл бұрын
Malta kicked the British Armed forces off the Island in 1979 by raising the cost of the lease of the bases to a point where England said no and moved bugged out.
@leviatanlevi19202 жыл бұрын
This video has alot of rubbish and falsehoods. There is NO British Oveseas territory that wants independence. All these territories are relatively rich and prosperous. The citizens of these places are not looking to rock the boat
@williamlee21423 жыл бұрын
Argentine "Take back"? shouldn't it be "invade"?
@purpledevilr74633 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic78103 жыл бұрын
That really depends on who you speak to doesn't it?
@stevegregory90763 жыл бұрын
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 No, Argies have never had so unable to take back. Always been in Europian hands.
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic78103 жыл бұрын
@@stevegregory9076 would they say the same thing?
@scorpixel18663 жыл бұрын
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 Argentina absolutely never had any valid claim on the Falklands, Spain relinquished it's own centuries ago, only brits lived on the islands since then. The only reason it's an issue is because of a dictator trying not to get booted out by invading something, choose the Falklands because it was not that far away and he though Britain wouldn't lift a finger for it.
@jamesrobinson91673 жыл бұрын
Wow, a lot of research went into that Bermuda claim. A ship blown off course ✅ since 1650 ❌ it was 1609.
@Sabamike1923 жыл бұрын
Are you absolutely sure about the British citizenship issue? As I remember inhabitants of the territories get some sort of 'British subject' status or overseas citizen or something like that, which is NOT the same thing and doesn't necessarily guarantee them the same rights even in the UK as British citizens.
@ethanahsooleen63613 жыл бұрын
What about akrotiri and dhekelia?
@mn54993 жыл бұрын
In short - they provide us with a strategic advantage and we should keep them.
@sonofspacebaldy69233 жыл бұрын
The Department for International Development merged with the Department for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs last year. (Into the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office.)
@arturostewart85042 жыл бұрын
Antigua is not Anguilla they are two separate territories, Antigua is independent now.
@BIZKIT5513 жыл бұрын
Many freedom loving Hongkongers wish HK was still part of the UK especially now while suffering in the tight grip of the CCP.
@julianwong67803 жыл бұрын
Hi, one of them here!
@flappetyflippers3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this, I really wish the west did more about China, especially when it comes to Hong Kong as the values of the people in HK reflect the Western world far more than China's.
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
So, who's gonna foot the bill to support HK? Don't get me wrong. I sympathise with them but their energy, water and food basically come the mainland. We need to consider what's gonna happen if they get independence. You get what I'm saying. Ideals are great, don't get me wrong. But you can't survive on ideals alone.
@scorpixel18663 жыл бұрын
@@warren5037 Oh don't worry about it, they're fucked, that's it. Both our countries and corporations bootlick the CCP and Chinese market shares. It'll end like Tibet, the Uyghurs, inner Mongolia, but hey at least most have the option to flee before it's too late, thanks to being a coastal city with money. With some luck they'll also die of old age before the dictatorship achieve hegemony over the globe.
@BIZKIT5513 жыл бұрын
@@warren5037 The thing is they never had independence and never really asked for it. They are asking for the freedoms back which they had during the time when HK was still part of the British colonies. The handover to China was made under the agreement that nothing would change for 50 years and that the 1 country 2 systems would respectfully uphold that which it clearly didn't.
@davidsimon50913 жыл бұрын
I am from the British Indian Ocean Territory. You are right that it exists under this name since 1965, but you fail to mention that the British have occupied the territory since 1814 and they uprooted the autochthonous inhabitants of these islands, mainly descendants from slaves who were working on the copra plantation since late 1700 under french rule. Many generations have been born on these islands and they were exiled to Mauritius and the Seychelles where they live as second class citizens. Let us get the story straight. Thank you.
@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I noticed he glossed over that. That whole episode is utterly impossible to defend.
@johnbrereton52293 жыл бұрын
Argentina can't ask for the Falklands back as you claimed, because they never owned them in the first place and no Argentinian has ever lived there. They were uninhabited when Britain first set up a colony there, and Argentina didn't even exist.
@alphamikeomega57283 жыл бұрын
BIOT is at least as controversial as Gibraltar, no? I believe it was claimed, and its inhabitants booted off, against international law, so now Mauritius has a good claim.
@warren50373 жыл бұрын
Yes. Chagossians pets got gassed to intimidate them. Those who were already abroad were denied re entry
@MatsRappe3 жыл бұрын
I think the original inhabitants were only dumped on a quay in Madagascar.
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
I’ll report back what I see there on the 28th
@rustyrench42783 жыл бұрын
Yea I wish we would give the island back, but I think if we tried America would just take it because it's so strategically valuable.
@sion83 жыл бұрын
Is it controversial? Yes. But does Mauritius have any claim? No. Why? Because the territory was formed while the whole thing was still a colony! The people in Mauritius weren't yet independent and when they were it was without 🇮🇴.
@EthanHKR19943 жыл бұрын
Err... you said Argentina wanted the Falklands “back” - they never had them in the first place?
@jamesrobinson91673 жыл бұрын
Woah, the comment on Anguilla at the end is completely disingenuous. The Anguillans voted for independence from the Kitts and Nevis. They might have opted for full independence but the thing they really cared about was not being governed by Kitts.
@futuresnitch1232 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a Gibraltarian I can safely say I'm Gibraltarian first. British a close second. And Spanish over my dead body. I also manage to travel to Tristan de Cunha (which is the most remote inhabited island on Earth) five years ago and the locals their actually care so little about the outside world (due to the remoteness) that some of the 200+ inhabitants (albeit few) didn't even know they are an overseas territory of a far off land.
@katsomeday13 жыл бұрын
I love you guys, but you really dropped the ball regarding the British Indian Ocean Territory. Part of the territory, Diego Garcia Island, had their population expelled so that a military base could be erected. The former residents and their children have been fighting for the right to return since and have won a case in the International Court of Justice in 2018 against the British government and that the territory was illegally separated from Mauritius (who still claim the islands), but the British government, with the US backing refuse to abide by said judgments. Instead, they apparently have tried to make the non-military parts of the territory a marine reserve to give an excuse to avoid resettlement and the US has also apparently stored cluster bombs there avoiding UK Parliamentary over-site. I understand that you folks are limited in your resources when researching topics, so mistakes will happen. (I'm still subscribed to all your channels and watch daily.) I hope you will make an extra video discussing this topic as a way of correcting this error.
@elliottprats19103 жыл бұрын
Not gonna happen, we lease the island and will continue to renew the lease each time it comes up similar to how we get Guantánamo Bay from Cuba.
@tallest4eva3 жыл бұрын
Top-shelf reference to Hamilton: "Send a fully armed battalion to remind you of my love"
@QemeH3 жыл бұрын
Glad, I'm not the only one who noticed :D
@PopcornChicken993 жыл бұрын
Hamilton is also the capital of bermuda
@tonydivito34893 жыл бұрын
I spent 13 months on Diego Garcia (AKA Dodge). The only thing British about the place were the BIOT Police (Royal Marines) raising/ lowering the Union Jack everyday and serving pints at the Brit Club. Everything else is American. No locals as they were kicked out to Mauritius. The only British subjects were donkeys, cats, chickens and coconut crabs. Oh yeah..there was a resident hammerhead shark in the lagoon named Hector.
@Dave-hu5hr2 жыл бұрын
We're just reminding you who your landlord is yeah.. ? 🥔
@bunceman46133 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to do a video on proposed reforms of government? Whether it be abolishing the house of Lords, federalism and the effects of these?
@zutalors133 жыл бұрын
Just a minor detail: the department for International Development has been replaced by the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office (FCDO).