British Rail Faulty Doors | Thames News Archive Footage

[@stace3037]

I remember those Network South East trains - literally every door would open and people would start getting out before the train had stopped.

[@StuMas]

I remember watching this live!

[@HamishG199]

In a town near me, Tamworth, had many incidents involving slam door trains mysteriously opening and it was called the Tamworth Triangle.

[@DougPaulley]

Broadcast May 26th 1992, judging from the Thames TV This Week "Blood on the Tracks" episode broadcast the next day.

[@toddhunter3137]

Always amazed me how a supposedly 1st world country like Britain had slam door trains right up to around 2005.

[@HamishG199]

It is different for trains as they are franchises and it’s their money really.

[@williamchasney9665]

I seem to remember them being used later than that

[@Xgeneration28]

imagine having slamdoor trains in 2021. it wouldn't happen and i don't think it's because of train safety i think it's passengers being irresponsible that would be the main risk.

[@ConnorRichards73109]

Slam doors still exist in service with GWR on their Night Riviera service there the last remaining in the UK and it’s now 2023. Slam doors are safe as long as there maintained correctly and have interlock.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

@@ConnorRichards73109but are usually not powered

[@BaileyChap]

@@QuarioQuario54321 that's the whole point of a slamdoor

[@QuarioQuario54321]

​@@BaileyChap Was it that hard to power them?

[@gabriellaj.o.6180]

I remember the slam doors and they were dangerous. Once a door came open as another train sped past. People fell out the trains and people committed suicide as well with them not a joke but reality of 60s 70s and 80s and 90s and early 21st century travel.

[@Mgameing123]

Slam door trains later must be have automatic locks when the train is in motion.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

Whew. Why did slam door trains exist for so long?

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

Because people liked them. Still do in fact. What are your feelings towards sliding door trains? Not nostalgia, I'm sure!

[@QuarioQuario54321]

@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479There wasn’t any real advantage to them. Most of the rest of the world had moved onto sliding doors much earlier

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

@@QuarioQuario54321 Of course we had a very long period of time, when we had both slam doors and sliding door trains. Just as with the RM buses in cities like London, both held significant nostalgic value, which I consider to be very important in terms of morale of using them. Yes, the alternatives are newer, safer, possibly more reliable (possibly), and state of the art, but they lack charm and character which entices the passengers to use them in the first place. Streamlining isn't necessarily always a good thing - particularly if interacting with it becomes less available.

[@Peter-mj6lz]

Because trains last long

[@Peter-mj6lz]

@@QuarioQuario54321quicker dwell times like the routemasters

[@trying58]

It's hard to imagine this was actually a problem - "Bring back British Rail" indeed!

[@SiVlog1989]

Well, even when Franchising began, Connex (running the South Central and South Eastern franchises), nor Stagecoach (running the South Western Franchise as South West Trains) were in much of a hurry to get rid of them either. In fact, I would argue that based on accidents like Southall, Ladbroke Grove, Potter's Bar, Hatfield and Ufton Nervet show that railway safety in the hands of private companies is like a Dutch Auction, sold to the lowest, least capable bidder

[@christopherwaring8285]

VIVIYAN IN THE YOUNG ONES DO NOT LEAN OUT OF THE WINDOW,I WONDER WHY BANG AAAAAAH!

[@Springamatul]

How long ago was this it doesnt mention as it looks recent I hope the boy is ok maybe grown up now.

[@paullondon6625]

It's British rail, which was privatised in 1996, so would have been before then

[@roberthill6216]

At a guess 92 or 93. I think that was about the time the intercity fleets had CDL fitted. I will hold my hand up if im wrong.

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

​@@roberthill6216No need to do that, please! It certainly couldn't have been later than '92, because Thames was replaced with that... _other_ thing, in '93. Always got the impression that boy was a bit of a troublemaker somehow...he just seems the type.

[@DougPaulley]

May 1992

[@JudgeJulesY2K6]

Good footage of CPM / Carriage Fitters doing they're work!

[@riverhuntingdon6659]

I too was there, still miss the old units. All this crap about "Issues" and "Robust this and that." I call it W**kspeak. This sort of rubbish is why we have no preserved EMU stock on the mainline, even sliding door 306017 has been banished.

[@sanchoodell6789]

@@riverhuntingdon6659 Same story on the Tube when they finally phased out the old *'Turbies'* from the network which had more clanky sounding doors and replaced them with mid 90s stock which have the Star Trek style swishing sounding sliding doors!

[@DavidFennessy-yj7du]

I worked on the platform on the railway, those doors were solidly engineered, the public messing around caused the problems, they were well made, public didn’t close them properly sometimes or opened them and the train was running in, those locks were very well engineered, greased and everything, the public still abuse the toilets, there used to be nice Palmolive soap and everything in the lavatories on the trains but the public are scum

[@sanchoodell6789]

They need to sort this out as someone is going to get killed. You would think in this day and age they would phase out these rickety old trains!

[@burgerpommes2001]

this video is at least 30 years old

[@acesigma06]

2019, and we still have slam doors Fluorescent strip is good, if door is facing the guard,

[@garfstiglz3981]

Slam doors with drop bolts.

[@roberthill6216]

Eh? All the mk1 and mk2 slam door based units were gone by the mid noughties. Only charter stock and preserved railways now use them. The exception was HST's, but they had CDL, and, most of them have now been converted to sliding door.

[@Kennyde]

Riicccckkkkkyyyyyy!!!!!!!

[@ashleyjiscool]

Only 1 train still has these doors

[@ConnorRichards73109]

GWR still operate the Night Riviera with slam door sock and it’s 2023, they don’t seem to be going to be replaced any time soon

[@ashleyjiscool]

@@ConnorRichards73109 ik

[@DougPaulley]

​@@ConnorRichards73109but with central door locking.

[@riverhuntingdon6659]

Keep your brats under control. Bet he kicked the internal catch and the door flew open. The start of the elf'n'safety sue everyone innit killjoy time we have today.

[@paulkennedy8701]

River Huntingdon That was my first reaction too, but this video is NOT about one incident one child. It is about the official report of an investigation into a systematic problems with doors. It found that they were faulty and that maintenance was inadequate. And you think correcting the faults and making them safe is being a "killjoy"? Unbelievable!

[@aldertravels]

River Huntington | You are such an ungrateful, obnoxious person. Change your ways. Imagine of you accidentally hurt yourself and I went over and yelled what you said in your ear while you were at the hospital. Keep out of it and if your not going to say anything nice don't say it out loud. Peace out.

[@rabd9881]

@@aldertravels he died 2 years ago just found out but your 100% correct and if the kid had an accident on an electrostar this guy would have been first to blame the "new techno crap". On the cannon street crash he left a false comment saying the driver being on drugs caused the crash, but said nothing about the terrible structural integrity of the slam door train

[@StuAnderson90]

@@rabd9881 how do you know link???

[@rabd9881]

@@StuAnderson90 well I don’t have any link but he last uploaded at that time and theres comments saying RIP on his last video

[@tosspot1305]

To think people are still campaigning to renationalize the railways

[@James-bp7uc]

When the maintenance of the railways was privatised under "Railtrack" they did such as poor job 3 major accidents happened and then they got re-nationalised

[@James-bp7uc]

This problem didn't go away because of privatisation but because we no longer use trains with slam doors

[@tosspot1305]

@@James-bp7uc yeah kinda agree kinda not. Yes Railtrack were at the helm when the big 3 occurred and yes most definitely they were negligent... However they had a mammoth task to get the track up to code after decades of underfunding from the tory government. Even once the track was re-nationized it took years for network rail to bring it the safe standard we have today. It was privatisation that stopped this problem however because although it was directly caused by slam door trains, British Rail was so cash strapped and underfunded that they couldn't afford new trains with sliding door technology. Some trains such as the class 150 and 158 started being introduced around this time but the old 1960s trains were the backbone of the network. Privatisation allowed companies to purchase new stock. My original comment is vague at best.. I think the current franchise system we have now doesn't work and needs reform, however re-nationized rolling stock isn't going to bring that reform.

[@James-bp7uc]

@@tosspot1305 in general though privatisation is no different to british rail Still a shoddy service Still subsidised to shit by the gov

[@tosspot1305]

@@James-bp7uc Yer I agree with that for sure