British Rail Network SouthEast-Ex London Underground Standard Stock on the Isle of Wight 1988

[@Kingsleyjamesflint]

I remember as a kid loving the lampshades and the magical thrumming noises these trains made while resting in the stations, with their ‘clerestory’ roofs inside. Amazing that they went so long ago. They were beautiful and full of charm

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, i like them as well especially having an interest in the Underground. My first visit to the IOW was around 1980 when all trains were still around 7 cars long, even here they were still fairly long but the age of the trains was taking its toll in how many cars were still serviceable......

[@geoffbarry9540]

Blimey, five car rakes! That's about the total number of carriages they had available when they closed down for the upgrade! Looking forward to seeing the newbies in operation soon...

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, even 20 years after their introduction they could still muster long trains. Originally in 1967 they were 7 car trains in the summer! When we get out freedom back i hope to visit and film the D Stock in operation....

[@uries15]

I always enjoyed one of tricks of the NSE livery: the black band across the cab windows to make the stock look, ahem, 'modern'. This was possibly the most ridiculous attempt at that subterfuge. Great footage. Love it. Thank you.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

NSE's aim was to improve the Network all over, even the Isle of Wight which then had the oldest stock running on BR, as was the case in steam days!

[@n1thmusic229]

These trains now do look more modern than the 38 stock did tbh the ryderail painting in replacement of the Gangway door's window and making it all look flat and merged makes is look kinda modern to me, someone too young to see these trains in action

[@AndyCreepy27]

Wonderful footage, great to see these clips of the pre-1938 trains in action. Thank you for uploading this 😊

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

My pleasure......

[@martinwelsford1353]

Its a tribute to the design and construction of these LU sets that they lasted so very long. They might look a bit odd in this setting but the IoW had previously run Mr Adams wonderful O2 Class so it all went to give character to the Island. It also kept trains running - albeit on a very small part of the Island network. Lovely video and memories

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you....i have a soft spot for the island railways. And even now with the 38s withdrawn they are getting second hand trains again in ex District Line D Stock. At least now they are back to full sized trains again!

[@zebedep]

Lovely footage, very enjoyable to watch. Thanks!

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

My pleasure.....

[@AtheistOrphan]

Fond memories of riding these in summer 1986. Took some photos of them in the NSE livery. The last time I rode them they were in all-blue.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, a very drab colour for them. The blue & grey was an improvement and the NSE livery the best!

[@vicsams4431]

Another great video. The trains featured are LT 1922 stock, or as BR called them Class 485 and Class 486. I remember them, when I was seconded to work in Portsmouth in 1989. Having not been to the Isle of Wight before, I cheekily had a 3.5 hour lunch break and went Portsmouth & Southsea, to Portsmouth Harbour, then the catamaran across to Ryde Pier Head, then to Shanklin and back. The LT 1938 stock then became BR Class 483. Then the rebuilt LT D78 stock became BR Class 484.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

There were several different builds, in different years of what LT called the Standard Stock, although there were many differences in the builds! But they could all be coupled and worked together. I'm looking forward to being able to get over there and see the D Stock/class 484s, i rememebr when the D Stock was new!

[@vicsams4431]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus So do I ! On the LT District Line, I remember the silver R Stock before that, and the red CO/CP Stock before that.

[@slavoslav9175]

Hard to believe these units are almost 100 years old.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Well, they were around 60 years old. Their replacements, the 38 stock, by the time they were withdrawn they were over 80 years old! But even in steam days, Isle of Wight stock was always extremely old.....

[@theimperialist2686]

Nice railway video as always Soi Buakhao.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you....i aim to please.....

[@petermartin3818]

Oh dear - I can recall the Network Southeast Days out for £1 - anywhere on the system for a quid. Extended from Ipswich to Exeter - and the IOW. Having travelled over there, we stood at Shanklin having got off the train and stood marvelling at the rivets in the bodywork, and several of us working on the railway in the London area at Ilford Depot, mentioned this to the driver who had just brewed the obligatory mug of tea before returning the train to Ryde. On finding out we were more than the average enthusiast, we were invited for a cab ride which was rather interesting. There were 4 of us in the cab which was rather hot due to the weather, and a set of resistance banks behind an Edwardian wooden panel door between the cab and the motor compartment. The most modern thing on it was the windscreen wiper motor. All splendid stuff. At the time, the manager of the Depot was a chap from Ilford, but can't remember his name. Happy days! Thanks for the vid.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

My pleasure Peter.....how's your old baby doing, 017? If you look at this vid carefully you can see the Ilford Drivers Pay Clerk from the early 90s lurking in the background in some of the shots.....There are some of my uploads on here with 017 & possibly you in them, like here for instance kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIi2oamHq6uqpNU

[@petermartin3818]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus All splendid stuff. Can't recall running round at Broxbourne. Life was a bit of a blur! Too preoccupied with chatting to the punters and worrying over the unit breaking down! Must have been mad doing what I did - and some people said so! But there we go, history now. I kept it going for 10 years or so and it provided a little bit of individuality, which sadly will never be repeated. The unit was passed to NRM ownership after the breakup of First GE and Nat Ex took over. Sadly the retrieval by diesel traction from Eastleigh was the last time it turned a wheel on Network Rail lines. How the heck I got away with that on the SW mainline and all the other trips we did with it over the years, goodness knows. The loan to EARM at Chappel didn't work out. Basically I was on my own with it and both the NRM and EARM went through various transitional changes. The general railway environment was also changing, where it wouldn't fit in anymore and it was returned the NRMs' Locomotion facility at Shildon, where it currently resides. Numerous plans to go up to see it and try and find someone to explain how it works and what it is they've actually got (whilst I can remember!), have been thwarted by the current situation. Perhaps I ought to write a book on it! Keep up the good work.

[@RailwayDan]

The old 4-VEC and 3-TIS units. Had many a ride on these old things back in the 70/80's. Miss them as much as i will, the 38 stock. Didn't they have an old class 05 over there as well ? Never saw it on any of my trips over there. Another brilliant nostalgic vid. Thanks for sharing.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

The class 05 was very elusive! It mainly ran at night on engineers workings and hid in Ryde Shed during the day. That loco is what made Ryde a Mixed Traction depot, you were trained on DC electric traction plus diesels just to be able to drive the 05!.....

[@dgattenb]

they are putting the loopback at branding as part of there upgrade ... from 1920s stock to 1930'2 stock to 1970'2 stock

[@n1thmusic229]

Nope, 1980s Sub surface stock, not the same thing

[@DKS225]

These Standard stock lasted a while as did The L.U 1938 Stock and in a way i'll be sad to see them go after what 82 years in service. That and not getting the chance to go over to The Isle Of Wight to ride them in all the times i visited The U.K. How passengers will react with The Class 484 Ex L.U D78 Surface stock when they start operating only time will tell.

[@juansdf1]

Go to the EOR

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It will noticeable that they aren't using ex tube stock any more, back to full sized trains since December 1966!

[@professorjamesmoriarty5191]

Never seen the standard stock in blue/grey before.

[@Keithbarber]

Rode on it in our 1985 holiday on the island

[@AtheistOrphan]

No I only ever saw it in all-blue or NSE.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

In the early 1980s BR started to paint all it's passenger stock into blue & grey rather than just Inter-City stock as had been the case....

[@jamesfrench7299]

Sydney has a major area called Ryde to the north west and that was the extent the trams used to go toward the north west until the idiots fully closed the enormous system we had in 1961 and we've paid for that appalling choice ever since. Interesting seeing them attempt to modernise these old tube stock's appearance like that as far as 1988. Was that couple talking to you?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

No, to the guard. When introduced all trains were 7 cars long. Over the years as passenger numbers fell, and the stock fell apart, shorter trains became the norm. They even brought back to life a Control Trailer as they ran out of Driving Motor cars. A CT has a cab but motoring equipment behind it, just seats as like more modern stock.

[@craigymarsh941]

I like the London underground standard stock

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

They were interesting trains to ride on......

[@AtheistOrphan]

Anybody know what year the Brading platform (2?) shown in the video was closed? I’m sure I remember it being there in ‘86.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It was in the early 90s when the revamped it for the arrival of the 38 stock if i remember correctly.....

[@gordonjohnson8432]

is Brading going back to what it was 2 platforms?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, but only a loop this time rather than a double track block section to Sandown as seen here.

[@n1thmusic229]

1:45 I heard those trains were bouncy but I did not know it was that bad

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

The track hadn't been touched since electrification in 1967 so was well apst its prime even in 1988!

[@Sharpshooter99100]

It looks more like a tube train from the side, but BR from the front, and livery is BR. Kind of hybrid looking!

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It is indeed an ex London Underground train! Built in the 1920s/30s BR brought them in the late 1960s for the IOW. Later on, to replace these they brought the later built 1938 tube stock as seen here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmTWcmqMir2lZ6s

[@Sharpshooter99100]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus thanks for the info! They are beautiful looking trains, and can hopefully be preserved in some way. I'd love to ride it some day. Are they still operating? Also looks like they have one power rail.. instead of the lul two rails. have they been modified?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@Sharpshooter99100 Yes, they were modified to 3rd rail operation. These finished by 1990, and the 38s a couple of year back. But there replacement stock also came from the Underground, this time ex District Line D Stock trains, re-engineered and bringing back full sized trains to the island railway..... Geoff Marshall YT channel has a vid or two about both the D & 38 stock on the IOW, check them out.....

[@Sharpshooter99100]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus nice one. Thanks for the info. I saw the D stock were converted by vivarail to electric. Was it one of these used? Sadly the Vivarail system was terminated after I believe one of the trains caught fire. They looked really good though

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@Sharpshooter99100 The D Stock was already electric, what Vivarail did was convert some to diesel and others battery. They had high hopes of selling the refurb'd D Train to rail operators but the DfT splurged on new rolling stock and the company never made any money..... Here's a couple of vids with them at work at Wrexham and Bedford kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZaqepuYetSpacU and kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3W8dmxnoqpjeJo

[@85dstudios]

Now it’s the end of the other 38, 483 stock and the 484 underground stock is coming in

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Yes, and the 38s lasted longer than the Standard stock as well! Quite tough old trains are the 38s.....

[@n1thmusic229]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yes they were, but they were withdrawn after they were literally falling apart, only 1 unit was still capable of operating and they could no longer run 2 at a time, if you build 10 and use the spare parts of 7 to keep the other 3 in service and give then a massive refurbishment in the 1980s before they enter service, they'll last a while, I bet honestly the D stock will probably last almost as long, me estimates for withdrawl is 2050s-60s. Nobody wants to admit it but most new trains are better than the old ones, that's why they're replacing them. There are exceptions which are, the plastic trains like the 701, 1992 stock ect. but in general most trains are better than what they replaced and should be capable of lasting longer.

[@DKS225]

@6.21 Clearly a couple of locals knew who you were Soi. But on the subject of The 1938 Stock if anyone has Train Sim World 2 they can get The I.O.W add-on with the said stock in NSE Colours and play to their hearts content. And with the planned upgrading of the whole line that hopefully will include reinstating the passing loop at Braiding that passengers will benefit from a more regular service.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I didn't know anyone there, they were actually talking to the guard! Now this would be a nice line for Train Sim world to do wouldn't it?......But what stock would you want? Standard, 38 or D?......

[@DKS225]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They already have but with 1938 Tube stock in The Network South East colours

[@warweezil2802]

I really wish I had flexed my priv ticket more and gone visiting ...

[@AtheistOrphan]

Tick those boxes! (But remember to check the restrictions first).

[@francois738]

Agreed on that one. I loved having my freebie boxes, and the 75% discount for shorter trips :)

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

That's what we all did, date a box for a two day &/or long trip, Priv ticket for a more local trip out.....

[@annescholey6546]

Might have made sense for Southern to electrify the whole network in 1967 instead of leaving one section. Some wrote that Bournemouth took priority on budget grounds.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

That wouldn't surprise me. They could have at least left Ventnor on the line and Newport &/or Cowes as well but we are lucky the whole didn't just shut!

[@TSSmina]

Wonder why they made it 2 cars instead of the original 4?

[@AtheistOrphan]

Shortage of parts!

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

When first delivered they were in 3 and 4 car sets and ran as 7 car trains. As others have said, over time parts were hard to get as things wore out. Notice the long siding at St Johns Road full of withdrawn stock, kept in case of need for spare parts!

[@frostycola42]

br under investment