Broadhead Testing 2023 Deception vs Reality

[@edashby4399]

Perhaps the best - and most important - video you have made to date. One more thing for everyone to think about: what happens with those varied impact angles when your shot is at a quartering angle, or from an elevated shooting position shooting downward, or from that elevated position shooting downward at a quartering angle. Consider the bone impact angle when shooting downward at an animal facing directly away - or towards - you. The ribs curve dramatically towards the top and the broadhead impact angle on the ribs becomes extremely steep. That's why I spent so much time testing broadhead skip angle to determine how overall broadhead shape, edge-bevel type, and broadhead tip design affect a broadhead's skip angle. It's the most overlooked broadhead design factor.

[@rogersimonds1812]

Ed, thanks for chiming in! And thanks for the science that you did with your studies! I learned about your study from the Jeremy Johnson’s book “Can’t Lose Bowhunting” back in 2017. RF does a great job getting the message out and I love his stuff. Hope you are doing well and God Bless!

[@Kurtdog63]

It is possible that sometimes arrow deflection can be your friend? Instead of trying to bulldoze thru a bone, a broadhead designed to ricoche off a bone, even at an angle, may allow the arrow to continue moving forward and send the arrow thru the vitals, instead of coming to rest in a bone and going nowhere?

[@edashby4399]

@@Kurtdog63 When the arrow redirects, for any reason, all control is lost. That redirection will. sometimes, work to the bowhunter's advantage, assuming his shot was misdirected to start with. Redirection is random, and a random outcome is what we all strive to prevent. We want the outcome to be predictable as often as possible.

[@timmclongdick]

Thank you for all of your research and contributions to bow hunting, Dr. Ashby.

[@Kurtdog63]

@@edashby4399 Speaking of reducing randomness.... Something I mentioned to Troy was comparing a loud bow to a quieter bow. Is it better to have a quieter bow that an animal may, or may not react to, or a loud bow that almost guarantees them to react almost ever time, to anticipate on how to aim. When animals are really close, this becomes less critical of course, but when an animal is at the maximum effective distance of a particular arrow velocity, their ability to move substantially is amazing, taking the arrow impact out of the kill zone. My calculation is based on animal reaction time at 1/4 of a second. I call it the HBTG VALUE .. or Hit Before They Get... It is based on where the arrow is down range in 1/4 of a second. Arrow velocity in FPS divided by a factor of 12 gives the yardage. Examples are a longbow at 120 fps yields 10 yards. A recurve shooting 150 fps yields 12.5 yards. A compound at 240 yields 20 yards. A crossbow at 360 yields 30 yards. If an animal is passed these ranges for that particular arrow speed, a deer type animal's reflexes may take the arrow out of the kill zone. The last 2 bucks I shot did not react at all to the shot. Four out of the last 5 doe I shot reacted explosively.

[@ThirdLawPair]

I'm a scientist, and I can tell you that the second most common error everyone makes when doing these "experiments" is not using realistic targets. Good job.

[@stick__shooter]

But how do you quantify the data on a realistic target with no uniformity? No "realistic" target is identical. There is always a variance in size, weight, bone structure, distance, angle, etc.

[@edashby4399]

@@stick__shooter The same way we do in clinical trials of medications - outcome-driven studies. "There is always a variance in size, weight, bone structure, distance, angle, etc." Doesn't that sound a lot like what we face in real hunting? Isn't what type of performance is the likely outcome in that type of situation precisely the type of information we want to know?

[@deef2779]

I think the biggest elephant in the data industry room is the over emphasis on repeatable predicability by way of conditional limit setting.

[@deef2779]

Dr Ashby's principles provide an excellent solution for the inability to isolate limit setting conditions which are only attainable on narrow spreadsheets.

[@WMBCS]

@@stick__shootertheir is no control group and inconsistent testing

[@Hackmo72]

Great video ranch fairy. No one on KZbin can come close to informative and detailed anatomy for hunter's like you give

[@islandpainter3964]

I watched Dudley and ranchfairy podcast, i cant believe how he was so fixed on expandable broadheads , saying that modern archery equipment has enough power to blow through anything. He is knowledgeable for sure but man he totally disregarded your side of the story. I would say rude to be honest. I admire your patience and calm demeanor. It served you well my friend.

[@glennl9630]

Dudley is also very cocky

[@jeffreyfickert4818]

I feel like if I spent one day shooting with you, I’d be 10 times the archer I am now. I dipped my my toe into the high FOC pond last year and had some amazing results on the deer I shot. And this year I’m doing a full dive into the deep end. I got the Sirius test kit and getting ready to order my full arrows and broadheads. Anyone I talk to that has trouble with penetration or has any kind of question or doubts about their arrow setup I send a link to your channel.

[@timothythompson3029]

I'm a mold maker. There's this proprietary steel from Uddeholm called Vancron 40. It's the most durable toughest steel I've ever worked. We use it on molds that have steel on steel sliding functions that are extremely high wear. I built a set of cavities out of 420 SS and we got 50k cycles out of it. Switched to Vancron 40 and got 1 million cycles. Also I'd recommend Elmax. I normally harden it at 60 RC. Also very durable.

[@monte4150]

I love this show! One of the best!

[@jonbrown9490]

This is a great video! You're 100% right about polishing the edge on your broadheads. If you leave your edge coarse but "sharp" the micro serrations will be more likely to deform and burr. This is why ultra high end cutlery and tools( think japanese woodworking chisels) uses steel that has a very fine grain structure. When you have a very tight grained steel it will be stronger but will also take a much finer( keener) edge. A keener edge is stronger because the micro serrations are closer together and provide support to each other and dont break when they contact hard material. A good example would be a finely polished hand plane blade used for hardwood wood working or the edge of a scalpel as connective tissue is very abrasive as well. So, if your edge is finely polished ( 4k grit and above) and you hit hair, sand, hide, bone etc. It will stay sharper on its way into the body cavity. This is true even with cheap steel...though quality abrasion resistant knife grade steel( aeb-l, 440c, 1075, 52100 etc ) will definitely fare even better.

[@ericwiitala5407]

Great video Troy. I appreciate your time and energy creating these videos. Incredibly educational. 🏹👍

[@thomasrobitaille9022]

This is an amazing demo! Laying it out real world! Love your channel and your Broadheads keep it coming!!!

[@RanchFairy]

Thank you! Will do!

[@michaelbushey2787]

They may be pricey, but I shoot iron will single bevel. I finally got sharpening tools for them, so as long as I don't lose them. They will last me multiple seasons and animals. Good luck this year everyone!

[@chasingthefish9042]

You get the regular ones? I did, I was surprised how small they are.

[@raymondcava4669]

right on Troy , All bowhunters must see this video. Like you said it’s not what the broadhead does to the pig but what the pig does to the broadhead that will determine A quick kill or a wounded pig.Thank you for posting

[@justmeva]

This is the best and more importantly the most informational video that I have ever seen. Thank you.

[@cupeater]

good stuff, Troy! despite you being destined to usually be swimming upstream, we need ya. keep it coming!

[@adamhowel3683]

Hands down the best video on broadhead lethality.

[@timfoster7979]

Great Video! Came from now with delta heads to crossbow and rages. Lack luster results lately so I am going back to 2 blade and heavy for deer. It’s been in the back of my mind and you just pushed me over with this vid. Thanks

[@blind-dateoutdoorssportsma547]

The best video there is with regards to broadheads. Every Rage and other mechanical broadhead user should watch this. Thanks.

[@kurtrutter1611]

Proof is in the pudding. RF keep doing what you are for the archery community. We appreciate you👊🏻

[@mikeb6555]

RF, ANOTHER top notch presentation! THIS is what actually happens when your arrow contacts the animal! THANK YOU so much for your "research".

[@trxe420]

Living in GA, hunting hogs for years here, I have to agree with this. You really have to be on your game with your equipment and techniques to hunt these ethically. I can't tell you how many hogs I have processed or seen processed that have literal broadheads or arrow shafts from previous shots sticking out of them.

[@paulvega9893]

Great comment same here. I am over 62 years old. This a very true comment. I agree. Been hunting since early teens hogs in Florida. Seen the same.

[@braintanningsinew4888]

Thank you. Your education and expertise are awesome to behold.

[@dougroush5001]

Great video! I appreciate your hard work, not only in your testing, but in putting these videos together. Very informative and in an entertaining way. Keep up the good work!

[@fightthelies4349]

I love going into the shops near me and explaining how much better a 680 grain high foc arrow penetrates. The looks from the twizzler tossers gets me everytime. Was also asked about my 150 grain practice tips.

[@deef2779]

Fun to see how a fiat currency system shapes perception and human behavior. Some folks just love bullshii and adapted their definition of durability to accommodate the song "I'll buy a new one". Fun times.

[@Just_AK23]

If you're walking into your shop doing that you are probably an asshole

[@bobcowan1943]

Great information, so many grab a pack of broadheads at Wally World in Aug, fling a couple arrows, then wonder why they are missing or getting poor results in a bad hit.

[@jeffboutilier5075]

I just sent you pictures on Instagram of a buck I shot with a rage hypodermic, the blade folded over after hitting one rib. That was the moment I started listening to what you were saying.

[@johnbarbee4226]

Great stuff. I work in the cardiology field in Houston. Enjoy your approach to explaining.

[@papaschuette]

You just laid this out perfectly. Excellent explanation of how the different angles affect the shot. Definitely a great way to show that a cut on contact broadhead, with the right steel, is the best way to go.

[@williamworkman1468]

This was very useful Troy! Thank you!

[@johnathonarnold9070]

You got me off mechanicals and made me start sharpening a year ago, it’s already better. I’ll be getting my test kit soon. You had me with the curved shape at broadside. Mind blown

[@fredwalton2228]

Thanks Troy, New believer here. Could tell yah some good flapper story’s some day. Making me look at rib cages differently. Keep the educational content coming. Been deer hunting 50 years so its true. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

[@davehalm7362]

Excellent explanation RF. Always spot on!

[@johndaileytraditionalarcher]

Good stuff!!! Never thought about the angles on the body of an deer or pig. Makes sense why alot of arrows deflect including with the animal moving all at the same time. Thanks for the video

[@kevinredford6688]

Thank you for the information keep up the good work

[@ajsomp]

I can tell you I wish I considered this more before this season. So far I have shot 5 deer with Rage 2” mechanicals. And I can tell you while I’ve killed all 5, 3 of those animals the arrow turned immediately upon impact and headed back towards the rear and came out the guts which made tracking difficult. The entry wounds were massive, which was honestly the only way I was able to track blood. The other two were straight pass throughs and short tracks. My conclusion is that unless you have a flatter angle and broadside shot, the rage broadheads are just a no go. I also recovered the broadheads and each time they were bent, dull, and unusable again. I’ve since switched to fixed blades and will see how the rest of my season goes. Overall, I wish more of this was a discussion and I am a firm believe that mechanicals are just introducing more points of failure and chances to not penetrate and pass through bone and hide. Great video!

[@billmassing515]

If your arrows are doing that your bow is most likely not tuned properly. Ribs don't redirect a rage broadhead. Killed well over 50 deer with them at all angles and never had that happen

[@kencleg7721]

Expansion broadheads for Turkey and small game pigs elk bear moose things that have 1/4 “ of plaster mud on the hair need something that cuts through and enough wieght to drive strieght

[@gradyfuller4880]

Love the great information that you put out. Thank you for your help Sir.

[@sgreene2036]

When RF posts you tell the boss you need to go to the John and will be back in 25:02

[@paulvega9893]

Awesome job I have said the same for decades. I call it chest Kevlar like a bullet proof vest.

[@stevie9361]

Yeah I'm not hunting concrete blocks or plywood , so these videos are a waste of time an broadheads. Love your work mr fairy

[@TheBestLife35]

Excellent and very informative video. If only everyone put in the effort this man does ! He isn't the hero we wanted, but he's the hero we needed !

[@SpearsUnclaimed]

Arrows penetrating game are like rockets entering the atmosphere; they must be engineered well to pass through without degrading too quickly.

[@tjb50cal]

well said and great video, love the attitude

[@mikeferreira3879]

Great videos keep em comin

[@Antskillet]

Great video!

[@allenmccurdy8082]

As always I love your content

[@tylershelton2697]

I love the quartering away shot and aim for that ball joint on the other side. They cant run without heart lungs and 3 legs i even try to blow out shoulders with a rifle. Put em in 2 wheel drive with no gas in the tank

[@denniskay8178]

This is why i went away from mechanical broadheads 7 years ago i found 4 dozen MA 3 L solid broadheads and keep them razor sharp havnt lost an animal for 7 years now full pass thru with 440 grain arrow with High FOC

[@patrickborgerding8681]

Have you hit bones? How did it do with bones?

[@denniskay8178]

@@patrickborgerding8681 went right through the bone no problem MA 3L did every time there made of titanium

[@dustyneudy7017]

Shoot a few with a 2" expandable and a 550-600 grain arrow and post the results. You have no videos im aware of showing what flappers actually do. Be nice to have actual footage of rage,swacker,mega meat,etc to compare to when using a "adult arrow" but with a expandable. Love the content.

[@johnbrandt3264]

Excellent video. As always!

[@stuponfucious7]

I hate that Lusk tries to measure penetration through ballistics gel as a comparable property of broadheads BUT he does a sharpness/edge retention test by doing a wire cut test before and after shooting through 1/2" mdf and foam. I appreciate seeing the difference in retention between different broadheads.

[@numidianarchers195]

great info - very informative

[@peggoty75]

Hey i know you have tested so many but have not seen slick trick series especially grizz trick its a tank would love to see you test it, and hear your opinion

[@BigJ7922]

Great video Troy. Just got onto a property with some pigs & haven’t taken any for a wile! Hey thanks for not saying “Twizlerrrrrrrrs” 37 times and talking‘special’ 🤣

[@leonardcavaretta905]

Love the channel and content. The reason for the other broadhead tests is to be scientifically consistent when testing each broadhead against each other. Animals are very inconsistent from one to the other and where you hit the animal is even inconsistent from shot to shot. I agree that what you did and testing on animals is the best overall test, but when comparing broadhead to broadhead the only variable can be the head itself to see which is better.

[@StevenRAssmann-tb7ty]

As the chest contracts as the arrow hits it, it appears to cause the rib bones to move closer together making it even more difficult to penetrate the rib cage.

[@RanchFairy]

Unless they are exhaling!!! But you'd be correct. The "target" ribcage is MOVING!!!!

[@peterreece6547]

I think that all those fancy mechanical broad heads are designed to catch the archer like some of those fancy fishing fly’s are designed to catch the angler and not the fish. Having said that here in the UK we are not allowed to hunt with any kind of bow and arrow which is a bit silly as I’m allowed to use my sub 12 fp air rifle to shoot small game rabbits etc. so field points is all I need on my light weight bow of 40#.

[@HVACRat]

Great, as if I didn't have enough going through my head at the shot now I have all this stuff as well!

[@justaguy7997]

All of these FACTS about curves, angles and moving parts that are thick and tough, greatly reinforces why higher FOC is so important.

[@edashby4399]

We have testing planned to further evaluate the relationship between FOC and bone deflection, hopefully starting this year.

[@justaguy7997]

Thanks for the reply! Just a bit more about my comment on FOC. As Troy commented about an arrow hitting anything that is not truly broadside, higher FOC helps the tail end of the arrow from becoming erratic as it enters an animal at any angle. Also to Troy’s credit is that a very sharp broadhead enters much easier which also helps in preventing the fletched end of the arrow from moving out of its original flight path. These things equal better penetration. Most animals are already in some type of motion and higher FOC is truly helpful. I don’t understand the folks who argue against FOC, not realizing the benefit. Truly baffling!

[@edashby4399]

@@justaguy7997 My assessment is that you are spot-on and I hope the new testing will document this - with the aid of ABF's high-speed camera.

[@sinepari9160]

LOVE magnus BH's! I'm an ironwill man now but killed a ton of stuff with magnus stingers. Love them because they always flew like a field point.. very little tuning required. God did make it easy, if I ever need to field dress a mouse haha. You should do some single bevel fixed testing...not sure if you have, only have so many hours in the day and I love to fish too :) I bet it smells great when they fire up the smoker behind you.

[@THESPORTINGCAMP]

Like an m&m. Classic 😆

[@justinjackson6696]

Finally a video you're a pro about........deception!

[@RanchFairy]

Well played. I guess all the facts and physiology, tape measures, angled bones, narrow intercostal spaces, and the fact NOTHING is flat in the animal, you blow past that. Average comment. "Pro Tip" You should start a channel and reality us all on what the real facts might be. I'll be your first subscriber. Let me know when you start that up.

[@rutjr]

I also feel mechanicals don't cut on impact they pop on contact because the blunt part of the blade has to be used to open it. That's why there's a loud pop on contact. That has to slow it down.

[@JedlyMT]

RF strikes again! Never really thought about having too WIDE a broadhead. I have a pretty standard 1 1/8" but I see so many companies going wider, 2-2 1/4". Great video!

[@edashby4399]

That's why I did a lot of testing with narrower-than-standard broadheads but NO testing with BHs wider than what was already available at the time. There were already many problems showing up with the available wide-cut broadheads in the testing, and the wider the heads tested the more the problems. No indicated potential advantages to going even wider. I eventually settled on a narrower-than-standard BH width for my own "serious hunting arrows".

[@codiacmulletmulletlife9477]

I was hoping you were gonna pin cushion test that pork heap with all the different set ups. Next time you get a boar cape, lay that sucker over a rope and and shoot through the shields, its crazy how dense they are and that's with out all the goodies in between, like what you just showed. Paul Korn has an old video about 9 years ago that is a good hog shield test. Its called mechanical vs fixed broadhead penetration test on his channel, It would be awesome to see your version of that test. Thanks

[@NW_Outdoorz]

Hey Troy, I do love the information that you put out and share. I do agree that the metal being used in your broadhead is critical to be successful in recovery of a animal. Listening to you about the animals how they are not flat it’s something that I knew but never thought about until you said something. It dose make sense on how your never truly broadside because of the physical characteristics of a animal. So thank you for making me stop and actually make a conscious effort to think about it. Also same day I’d love to go down to Texas and do some hog hunting. I know your not a mechanical broadhead guy but I want to see how Grim Reaper (carni-four is what I’m currently using along with hades 3 blade) holds up on pigs vs a Bull Elk / Mule Deer.

[@JohnRiley-i4n]

Added 50 grain inserts into my arrow with just a 100 grain magnus stinger. I missed 4 out of 4 deer last year, including a giant. Now my arrows are behaving how I want them to. I started out with c.o.c and heavy arrows. I hate that I let someone talk me out of them. I'm going into this season with intent to slay. Thanks for all the content to educate.

[@DanielMcleod-z1q]

That 50 grain of brass you didn’t have did not cause you to miss 4 deer out of 4. That’s poor shooting. Period

[@wcwcgarner2717]

I love the channel troy. To told me. To have the arrow. Match your poundage and draw length. And to shoot a sharp fixed blade broadhead. And to sharpen them. And i have no problems wt pass throughs. And fast clean kills.

[@davetoms63]

This was a well made video.

[@floridahuntsman7915]

I believe that scallop edge hold better sharpness . Like a flint point . The peaks protected the sharp valleys. I will try it on a hog . Great job

[@blakeumthun8128]

I had a couple mechanicals fail and switched to "fixed" replaceable Muzzy's and was still heartbroken a couple times on deer. Broadside passthrough on a large whitetail and never found the deer and a doe quartering away that I could hear hit the opposite shoulder with no more penetration. It didn't dawn on me at the time, but after hearing you talk about blade strength it really got me thinking about what probably happened. Every arrow I've recovered that had the thin blades was completely chewed up from the just chest cavity and I never had one penetrate a shoulder blade. So, I made the decision to go with thick COC single bevels this year and up my FOC significantly (20%-25% depending on the arrow setup I decide on).

[@jeffhays1968]

Can't wait for this season. Sirius 300 Gr. bolts (Crossbow) ( no more factory stuff !) 125 Gr. insert and 200 Gr. Tuffheads. I have the feeling we will never go lighter and use mechanicals ever again.

[@sethpierrepont9738]

Great video and thoughts, but, so… what does this lead you to recommend as style of broadheads?

[@hawknives]

heavy, slow moving, sharp projectiles go deep. 600-700 grain arrows, with sharp double bevel broadheads. They do work well! Thanks, Terry! Christ bless!

[@The_Judge300]

Every time I see some KZbin channel has a broadhead and/or arrow test and use ballistic gel, I just don't waste my time watching them. I tested ballistic gel with broadheads and arrows more than 15 years ago to see how it would work. I already suspected that it wouldn't work well as I already knew how it acts after using it for testing bullets. And I totally got the results I expected and those results told me that ballistic gel is totally useless for testing broadheads and arrows. A broadhead that does great in a ballistic gel "test" might be totally garbage on animals and a broadhead that might lose in this "test" might be amazing on animals. Ballistic gel is good for testing bullets, but how the bullets affects the gel and how the gel affects the bullets are EXTREMELY different from how the broadhead and arrow affects the gel and how the gel affects the broadhead and arrow. And anyone that has hunted and shot an animal with bow and arrow, and butchered that animal, will totally understand this the moment they handle ballistic gel. It acts and affects the arrow and broadhead so extremely different from what animal hair, skin, muscle, tendons, blood vessels, organs and blood do. A broadhead and arrow test in ballistic gel only tells you how well it does against ballistic gel and nothing else, and I doubt there are many that hunt ballistic gel. You might as well test bullets against steel plates to see how well the bullets will perform in animals as you will get exactly the same useless results as you do with testing arrows and broadheads against ballistic gel. If these KZbinrs are such experienced hunters as they claim to be, then they very well know how useless using ballistic gel for testing arrows and broadheads is, but still they do it. Again and again. And why? Most likely for clicks because it looks nice and maybe to sell the broadheads and some merch. They are doing nothing else than lying to their viewers when they claim this is a good test that will tell how well the broadheads and arrows will do on animals. And then some of them put a dried deer scapula in the ballistic gel to make it "even more like a real deer", so the test will be even more close to "reality". Nothing but lies and they are misleading very may hunters that don't understand how useless ballistic gel is for this. My advice is to totally stay away from any KZbin channel that uses ballistic gel to test broadheads and arrows. By doing that, they have proven that they can't be trusted about what they say at all.

[@alexlindekugel8727]

ive had mechanicals fail to deploy in deer and it still died in 60 yards with a hole the size of a arrow shaft. was a dubble lung shot. and shashed threw 2 ribs. so im kinda leary that sharpness matters all that much. mass will prity much do all the heavy lifting. but placment still key.

[@darwindarwin141]

If the rib cage wasn’t flexible then CPR would not work , simples

[@ryan17m]

You break the ribs in cpr 9 times out of 10

[@Chapcorps]

Definitely if you're doing it right!

[@gwbuffalo_3072]

@ryan17m Yep! I’ve had to do cpr, I’m certified, on 2 friends now an both ended up with broken or displaced/dislocated ribs. Unfortunate but better then the alternative.

[@joshdennis8841]

Troy, I know you probably wouldn’t shoot them being they don’t make a super heavy grain head but what are your opinions on the design and function of the Annihilator broadhead?

[@brandondrane9710]

Ranch ...I was hoping for your opinion and thought on my set up for whitetails Slicktrick mag 100g Easton axis 400 Wrap 2in blazer vane Lighted knock Hoyt ventum pro 30 62lbs 27in draw Any thoughts or info on broadheads or set up would be greatly appreciated thank you for your time

[@the.reel.mccoy.]

Man do I love Magnus Broadheads

[@scottjohnstone7520]

I hunt pigs on public land and a private cattle ranch in Florida. Most are with the bow and exclusively with the bow on the cattle ranch, none corn fed, it might matter. I'm only in the 100 pigs range at this point, but one anecdotal thing that keeps recurring for me annually is when I get a pig to nervous step as I release or I aim poorly and hit a pig solidly in the guts, low guts specifically, I have without exception gotten a solid blood trail and a pig that doesn't go very far. The last one went 177 feet I measured it on an app. I still can't bring myself to aim for the guts, but when compared to my preferred quartering away broadhead ends up on the opposing leg/shoulder joint shot, I get much less blood often very little and the pigs go further. The only time pigs haven't gone further on the quartering away shot is when the arrow mechanically destroys the leg shoulder joint immobilizing the pig, but there is still less blood for trailing. Have you noticed this? My theory is that the generally constant intestinal distention of wild pigs on poor forage holds the wounds open and the intestines of pigs have a much higher vascular content than any other animal I've ever dissected. Have you noticed this?

[@Harvestlandtv]

Do you think pigs are more dense and compact than deer? Causing more penetration issues?

[@CRGtx325]

I believe that’s exactly what he just showed us.

[@jesseauer7649]

They are more dense and compact than deer. That isn't the only variable though. Troy talked about the hide and hair and what that hair can hold in it. Those are big variables too.

[@danielshields34]

Love the intro guitar

[@GenX-Grampa]

Man! I'm sitting here watching this and I SWEAR I can SMELL that carcass!! LOL I've cleaned so many of those damn things that I guess just SEEING the peeled back hide triggers my smeller! 😂😂

[@xxtotallyrandombrandonxx3093]

Chest thumper outdoors is the only guy who test before and after sharpness that I have seen

[@joshwinters7290]

Adding to the dynamic aspect of the target. The ribs are constantly expanding and contracting while the target breathes....

[@sorenjensen8867]

Really excellent 🏹🐷

[@bobbybell36]

Lusk Archery is the only one ive seen who checks blade sharpness before and after dulling

[@johnclark1925]

I just subscribed to James Hetfields archery channel. 😂 😎🤘Good work !

[@mikerhodes3563]

Here in central Louisiana my son and i shoot a lot of pigs with bow and arrow. Im 75 and shoot arrows set up by my son with different broadheads. Lately we been paying more attention to getting the blades scary sharp. I like to spot and stalk public land. No shortage of targets. I like fixed blade and he likes expandables. I can still shoot my compound at 62 lbs , he’s at 70. Shot placement is definitely the key but a razor sharp broad head saves the day on a target that’s always moving.

[@danielww9022]

If these necropsy videos don't convince you of the adult arrow philosophy, then you just cannot be convinced. Well done, RF.

[@brodystuart9944]

Cool how as you mpve forward in the rib cage it get more rigid too. It seems to allow for better penetration up front

[@daytondugnolle1919]

I think swacker broadheads would be a good choice head of what you're talking about. The bristles dull the blade before it gets all the way in a slacker only deploys the sharper blades after it gets inside past the rib cage, I haven't got to use my walkers yet but all the video and the research I've done shows that slackers are good about going through and then opening and the sharp blades cut all the bottle organs and come out

[@RanchFairy]

So, that seems to be a thing. However, TWICE on big feral hogs, I've had the depth of the shoulder meat (not shoulder blade) The meat is thick enough that the "cutter" blades started opening BEFORE it hit the ribs. Turned into Aquaman Trident and stopped like a brick. TWICE. So, yeah, if every single time the blades get behind the ribs and everything goes perfect or the meat on the impact side isn't more than about 1.5" thick. They yep. That's a lot of ifs.

[@davidvalentine9392]

Excellent video Troy!!! No BS facts are facts and there is no denying mother nature!!!

[@chickimac1]

Will Ironwill broadheads hold a better edge when hitting something like a wild hog?

[@jonanna980]

Ironwills use A2 tool steel. It’s the same metal we use to stamp steel car parts. It’s very very durable. High quality broad heads for sure

[@Jbowling6]

must be sharp in the organs makes me kinda want to know how a swhacker would fair on pigs. the ones i shot before didnt really feel razor sharp but they have they "fresh blades in the cavity" claim. gonna be shooting fixed regardless but the design seems make the most sense of a mechanical to me.

[@reddawng43x91]

If u don’t get a pass through on a swacker u have zero blood trail

[@guytwo20]

He is right. I only draw 54 lbs and used a hybrid cut in contact. I put my shot perfectly broadside on. 235 lb 9 point and my arrow barely passed through arrow stuck in him. He fell over dead at 50-60 yards. Funny thing was the mechanical action took so much energy away I barely had complete pass through then when I gutted him the lack of cutting channel freaked me out. It was just about a 1/2" hole with little sliced wound channel. So I know for sure my brand new cut on contact hybrid mechanical was dull inside the body cavity. Very little blood trail. Only reason I recovered him in short distance was I passed through an artery above his heart. I'm going to a Magnus stinger and paper tuning with his kit this year!!!

[@loganpicou]

Could you possibly do a test where you get a expensive broadhead and a cheap broadhead and get them around the same sharpness using the edge on up sharpness test (that’s just the first one that popped up on google for an example🤷‍♂️) then shoot them through the same thing (ex. Target) then retest them and show how each blade loses the sharpness over so many shots Random thing I just thought of and I don’t know if it would work or not🤷‍♂️

[@wesleyautry6734]

With all of the angles of ribs, meat and bone.... I'd say that's why the broad heads seem to kick towards the stomach instead of towards the vital organs.

[@XF111CC]

Love this video. Great info. But one question comes to mind. Indians used various bread heads. Including basically sharpened rocks. Flint rock etc. and many others with great success. What am i missing

[@RanchFairy]

Flint works. Ride on a horse and shoot a buffalo at 5 feet. Etc.

[@diggernash1]

My broadhead performance improved drastically when I learned that bows are supposed to be horizontal and throw 550 grain arrows at over 350 fps.

[@LanceHanlonOutdoors]

I wish I could come down to the test lab and hunt/ learn even more from you. I would be picking your brain for all information that I could.

[@edashby4399]

Stay tuned! ABF and The Ranch Fairy are working on the chance for folks to do so. Will be announced soon by ABF.

[@LanceHanlonOutdoors]

@@edashby4399 That's awesome.

[@MrLibertyHugger]

So which “Flapper” would you recommend?