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@NODAK-x9x
@NODAK-x9x 4 сағат бұрын
The thing missing was a real dude, real hunter, real bowmen, instead of a fraud. Pretty easy math.
@brandonpigman2725
@brandonpigman2725 5 сағат бұрын
Are the butcher a unicorn shirts still available?
@rohlfing63
@rohlfing63 7 сағат бұрын
Loved hearing Ed's story of how he got into that awesome gig in Africa and then Australia, thanks for including this in the video! While I understand what Cliff is trying to say about the binary thought process and people saying "I couldn't ever break the shoulder so why bother", I really think the bigger resistance to heavy arrows is still just the belief that a flatter trajectory with a light arrow is the bigger priority. They are blissfully ignoring the physics of both penetration, and the rapid drop of that light shaft at distance. With that said, I don't know how you convince them otherwise until they lose some animals and start reflecting on WHY.
@ravenflight88
@ravenflight88 9 сағат бұрын
hmm you should be the Wraynch Fairy, there's a t-shirt idea, you're welcome 😮
@kevinmeeske3412
@kevinmeeske3412 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you Dr Ed and All Excellent podcast. Love it
@jesse4530
@jesse4530 14 сағат бұрын
Are Axis deer now an invasive species in Texas? I imagine they aren't as prevalent as the hogs but it could be another animal, and more similar to a whitetail to test on.
@OldDerelict
@OldDerelict 12 сағат бұрын
Yes, Axis deer are considered an invasive species in Texas. Originally from India and Nepal, they were introduced to Texas as game animals. Since their introduction, Axis deer have established free-ranging populations and are legally categorized similarly to feral hogs. They compete with native whitetail deer for resources and can cause damage to local ecosystems and agriculture. However, Axis deer are not widely found throughout Texas. Most of the population of Axis deer is found on private land. While a few landowners allow access to selected hunters for free, many consider Axis as a new 'cash crop' for which many hunters are willing to pay to hunt. If we at ABF ever get an opportunity to access numbers of Axis deer, you can rest assured we will be testing on them.
@littlewoody5539
@littlewoody5539 19 сағат бұрын
This is one of the best podcast that you’ve done Troy
@ericandlindydubbelde3538
@ericandlindydubbelde3538 Күн бұрын
I think the trajectory question needs to be asked like this. If I have an elk at 45 yards and down the flight path there is a small branch at 25 yards. With my 400 grain set up I know I can make that shot and miss the branch. With a 650+ grain arrow can I still take that shot and not hit the branch? For those that want to quickly bash me, I pulled the scenario and numbers out of my rear. It seems like that's the basis for the trajectory folks
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 8 сағат бұрын
We agree. Depends on where the branch is and how big. You still have to know the trajectory curve. If it's directly in the way, both fly over. If it's 1/3 the way there, heavy arrow clears for sure. (Both probably) If it's 2/3 of the way there. How high is it? Its just not a real practical thing. BUT NO ONE Practices that - not anyone I know. It's total theory. Now I do have a shooting machine...... I have to admit, I am a total sell out that the arrow is the most important part of this. I want it to penetrate with maximum efficiency and the goal is always a pass through. So if we both clear the branch, but plan B happens and we hit the humerus bone or scapula (Both also have ribs behind them) at the elk? What has more potential lethality? That is what I cannot let go. It has to kill the animal, we can both practice trajectory curves.
@michaelhankins2237
@michaelhankins2237 Күн бұрын
When y’all are talking about solid bullets… is that a solid lead non copper jacketed or a full metal jacket type?
@OldDerelict
@OldDerelict Күн бұрын
Actually, all of them. For many years, most "solids" were just full metal jackets. Some had gelding metal jackets, but the best had steel jackets. The monolithic solids are, by far, the best. My preference was monolithic solids with a flat nose. In the days when most solids were nearly all gelding metal jackets over a lead core, most expanding bullets were just a gelding metal jacket with a non-bonded soft lead core, with the lead exposed at the nose. Those soft-nose bullets were notorious for coming apart and failing to penetrate deeply enough on the larger animals, especially in the smaller calibers. The FMJ bullets of the day did perform better on the larger game than contemporary soft point bullets. Long after smokeless powder cartridges using lead-core, gelding metal jackets came along, many of those hunting the largest game continued using their large-bore black powder rifles with their all-lead bullets (an all-lead bullet is also an actual monolithic bullet) because there was little chance of getting the fragmentation bullet failures of the early lead core gelding metal bullets, both soft points and solids. However, "solids" for some of the early smokeless powder cartridges had steel jackets over a lead core, and even though those occasionally bent or riveted, especially in smaller calibers, those failures were far less frequent. These bullets firmly established the "solid" as the bullet of choice among African hunters.
@michaelhankins2237
@michaelhankins2237 8 сағат бұрын
@ thank you sir
@shanedennis1487
@shanedennis1487 Күн бұрын
If only all game animals were just foam or gel, and you didn’t have to worry about that pesky fur, hide, bone……..
@51ubetcha
@51ubetcha Күн бұрын
This is a science channel. KZbin doesn't know the difference?
@donaldbuckner2935
@donaldbuckner2935 Күн бұрын
Unbelievable what happened to Ed in Africa. Great things and very bad things. It angers me that a government could do that to anyone but it is a crazy world and we cannot count on foreign governments to have our best interest at heart. Even in the U.S.A. God bless America, and thank God the American public is waking up.
@ravenflight88
@ravenflight88 2 күн бұрын
6.5 creempuff the ultimate man bun gun 😂
@feelslikefar50
@feelslikefar50 2 күн бұрын
Wasn't real sure going in, but ended up really enjoying this.
@flueckigerthomas66
@flueckigerthomas66 2 күн бұрын
check them out..Ishi, Pope, and Young: The History of Modern Bowhunting
@whitetailhunter7202
@whitetailhunter7202 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Cliff!! Hey just a thought. If you wanna see the adult arrows in action, take Troy on a guided elk hunt!!!!!😁👍
@michaelvstheworld3680
@michaelvstheworld3680 3 күн бұрын
I don't know what my 920 grain arrow going 213 fps will do on an Elk, but I know what it does on Whitetail quartering towards.
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 Күн бұрын
Haha. Yeah, if you built it right, you'll have no problem dropping an elk. I heard them in the last podcast saying that the elk threshold for breaking heavy bone and achieving consistent lethality is 650 gr
@OldDerelict
@OldDerelict 16 сағат бұрын
@@ScottWConvid19 Caveat: That 650-grain weight is with a structurally secure arrow having a broadhead with a mechanical advantage of at least 2.6 or greater. While arrow FOC shows no effect on the arrow's ability to breach a heavy bone, having an EFOC or UEFOC arrow is essential for achieving high post-breaching penetration.
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 5 сағат бұрын
@@OldDerelict Thanks Ed!
@andrewpayne2811
@andrewpayne2811 3 күн бұрын
1:41:03 the movie is Three Kings 😜
@kennyhunt4177
@kennyhunt4177 3 күн бұрын
I love the Berger conversation 👍 and Cliff is 100% on how animals react at medium distance, if a high velocity bullet exits an animal it has failed to deliver all of its energy. If it makes it to the inside of the off shoulder then all the energy is in the animal which is why they seem to just get knocked out, which is basically what happens. I have friends that only hunt with high penetration bullets because they Hunt very thick woods and prefer exit holes for blood trailing. I prefer fast expanding bullets for the same reason that cliff states, I Hunt open pasture and can see the animals for a long way so blood trails are not my main priority energy dump is. Thank all of you for the conversation.
@rickhelms6533
@rickhelms6533 3 күн бұрын
Ballistic tips are not hunting bullets. Had one splash on a deers shoulder. Tracked him 800 yards, saw him going over the dike and soon a shot.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 3 күн бұрын
Ballistic tip is a lung shot or neck shot bullet, not a shoulder bullet. You dont use a flat tip on a phillips, bullets are the same way.
@paulheberling2750
@paulheberling2750 3 күн бұрын
Ohhh yeahhhh
@denniswehling2147
@denniswehling2147 3 күн бұрын
Thank you Cliff, Troy and Dr. Ed for your information and insight. I made the switch a few years ago to heavier arrows and single bevel heads base on Dr. Ed and Troy's information. Shot two bull elk using their recommendations with excellent results. Both shots were total pass through shots, with little reaction to impact by the elk, who then just walked to 50 yards stood and fell over within sight. These results were much different than my results on numerous bulls shot with my older (lighter) setups. Thanks for sharing.
@robertskowronski2923
@robertskowronski2923 3 күн бұрын
Troy perhaps mentioning that often a surgeon will remove one lung and the person recovers and does well with one lung.
@rdude1184
@rdude1184 3 күн бұрын
Beger makes Target and Hunting bullets in their catalog.
@angelaguimaraes3265
@angelaguimaraes3265 3 күн бұрын
As a new female who is starting the bow hunting journey, listening to as much information out there is very helpful, especially with a short draw weight and low poundage. We mostly have Elk and Mule deer here so I’m gonna need all the help I can get. PS I worked at Barnes Bullets for a few years, I learned a lot there. Thanks for having these discussions.
@timbow50
@timbow50 3 күн бұрын
Do a lot of research and testing your setup. Many an elk has been killed with 40-45# bow draw weight ( if legal where you hunt) with a FIXED BLADE broad head. I suggest not using any mechanical as there’s probably not enough kinetic energy to get it to function. So much information available nowadays on women’s equipment. The most important thing is when you finally get a properly setup rig go shoot all you can. Build up your strength and possibly increase draw weight. Especially way before elk season. Make it part of your lifestyle and learn how to use properly which release you like. Watch “ bow only outdoors “ learning videos on releases. If you will commit to doing what he shows you won’t believe the Control you will have . Being in absolute control is paramount to being a good archer. GOOD LUCK to you in your archery journey!
@angelaguimaraes3265
@angelaguimaraes3265 2 күн бұрын
@ well thanks! I’m shooting 45# now, it’s very easy to draw, I’ve had my bow a month and have put 500 arrows through it already. Super fun, I tried a bunch of releases at the shop and decided to got with a True Ball wrist strap style. I seem to get good groups with it. I’m not going to hunt past 30 YD, but will practice a little farther out.
@angelaguimaraes3265
@angelaguimaraes3265 Күн бұрын
@@timbow50 also I was planning on using iron will single bevel or the magnus single bevel. Depending on my finances. Haha
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 Күн бұрын
"As a new female...?" Were you a male before? I figured you meant new to bow hunting, but the way you worded that, in this day and age, it needed sarcasm 😂
@OldDerelict
@OldDerelict 16 сағат бұрын
@@angelaguimaraes3265 With your light draw weight, I suggest you choose a broadhead with a higher mechanical advantage than the Iron Will. Additionally, try to get your arrow's FOC as high as possible.
@MagnumArrowArchery
@MagnumArrowArchery 3 күн бұрын
💪🏽🇺🇸🏹
@AskLeRoy
@AskLeRoy 3 күн бұрын
Have you guys ever contemplated doing a performance test on a plain Jane/ run of the mill arrow, of proper spine , and one of the ranch fairy 200 grain single bevel heads ? Basically use the stock aluminum insert. Slap on one of the single bevel head and see how much better the arrow would perform if you were to switch over to that? My theory, if people can see how much better their arrow penetration would be with a single bevel head and they don't have to buy titanium inserts or outserts they might be more willing to try out a two-blade head that would give them pretty good penetration without doing anything over the top.
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 Күн бұрын
There are a few problems with that idea. If the arrow is a plain Jane run of the mill arrow, the spine will not likely be stiff enough to straighten out quickly when the energy moves to the front wings and also if the arrow hasn't been insert tuned and nock tuned, the fletches usually work to keep the arrow flying straight to compensate for the arrow not being true, while the shaft is being pulled off target. When you over power the fletches with larger wings on the front, that can receive more of the energy coming from the shaft, you're now allowing the broadhead to be influenced more by the twizzler-like shaft and also when that arrow comes in contact with skin, the direction would likely be diverted. It would be great if there was a way to just make a simple and easy change to show others the benefit of having a heavier, stiffer and straighter arrow, but that really does have to be built intentionally to achieve dramatic results
@jamesmorris4428
@jamesmorris4428 3 күн бұрын
Trad hunters shoot slow and heavy, and kill elk. Why does having a bow that shoots 340 not allow you to shoot slow and still be effective?
@tray22
@tray22 3 күн бұрын
It is because the equipment manufacturers are good at selling their products. They push the faster bows and the scary named broadheads with 3" cuts and a large percentage of hunters fall for it. You could pick a varmint bullet that is light for caliber and gain speed with a flatter trajectory but it would perform horribly on big game. Seems really basic to me and I won't go light and fast ever again.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 күн бұрын
@@jamesmorris4428 You said it! We can run a “trad approved” arrow 230! The fast arrow guys will TELL YOU that heavy’s good for trad but NOT for compounds…..hhhhmmmmmm 🙋‍♀️
@frankhorn8327
@frankhorn8327 3 күн бұрын
Ed is a national treasure ! Not sure how or when it can be accomplished, but proof that the thresholds of Ed's bone breaking data apply directly to elk, I think would revolutionize how archers approach elk hunting. No longer fearing the shoulder as a no go shot, and aiming for the best chance of hitting the vitals, and getting better lethal results. I fear that without this data, the archery community will continue to see the combination of heavy arrow set ups as the red headed step child of this industry. Great talk gentlemen, the best way to share info is with people who will listen, ask questions, and go down their own archery rabbit holes ! Keep up the good work !
@davidholliday2703
@davidholliday2703 3 күн бұрын
Great information, gentlemen. Let the fun begin!
@samivey8416
@samivey8416 3 күн бұрын
I'm happy to tell you this. I'm doing the Ashby method of tuning on my longbow. Fifty yards is so much fun! I used to be afraid to practice that far. Now I'm going after it
@jeffreywilson690
@jeffreywilson690 3 күн бұрын
I like the performance of Berger and the older amax on deer
@johnathonarnold9070
@johnathonarnold9070 3 күн бұрын
As far as seeing the arrow performance on elk you can look at the hunting public and see some cool stuff on their channel.
@anthonyforfare7223
@anthonyforfare7223 3 күн бұрын
I love y’all and all y’all do!👍🥰🤗 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 and Happy New Year 🎆🎊🎈 God Bless Y’all and Your Families 🙏😇🇺🇸❤️
@andrewomalley2688
@andrewomalley2688 3 күн бұрын
Hey Fairy - that movie with the air in the body cavity is "Three Kings" with George Cloney 1999. It think its a great thing to refer your audience back to for the pneumothorax and how air in the body cavity can kill without bleeding. Its not perfectly scientific, but its on the big screen for people to watch.
@DEVILDOG3334
@DEVILDOG3334 4 күн бұрын
I ordered mine, but when I try to do it through your link, it said not found😢
@DEVILDOG3334
@DEVILDOG3334 4 күн бұрын
Order mine
@african7498
@african7498 4 күн бұрын
A .22 bullet has more KE than any arrow - yet a heavy arrow will completely penetrate a Cape Buff compared to a .22 bullet getting nowhere near through - despite 25% more KE?? Just shows momentum is what counts - not KE. Cannot argue physics and maths.
@african7498
@african7498 4 күн бұрын
Something dawned on me during this video - that I knew, but penny dropped better - like the semi explanation. An arrow with only 75% of a .22's KE will penetrate a cape buffalo while a .22 bullet won't even get close. This should enlighten the KE fanatics - it's momentum (a higher constant mass) that is a more important predictor of lethality than KE. End of story.
@junehansen7788
@junehansen7788 4 күн бұрын
drawlenght (traditionel recurve) 32 ,and bow pound 40-50......what spine scale ? :) still 300-240 spine??
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 күн бұрын
@junehansen7788 hit me on email. [email protected] - send more detail. Do you own the bows and want to build?
@davidwhite8909
@davidwhite8909 5 күн бұрын
You must remember 4 inches after launch the foc is dragging the ass end along
@virginiaglock17
@virginiaglock17 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely awesome video!
@rdude1184
@rdude1184 5 күн бұрын
Good information, as I get older I dont mind the price of good tools that save me time and get great results. Getting back to having fun faster ! LOL, but its a truth of life.
@davidwhite8909
@davidwhite8909 6 күн бұрын
U must remember a sharper broadhead will fit better and faster not sure if that's true but it should
@P.Trim69
@P.Trim69 6 күн бұрын
Nice work
@P.Trim69
@P.Trim69 6 күн бұрын
Nice work
@Heavy-h1g
@Heavy-h1g 6 күн бұрын
Great Video! Second peerless video I have watched. My peepbroke and now I'm having to aim using the OD ring on the sight itself. After tube broke I was shooting wide left and there is not enough stroke on my sight bar to move it where I need it. Just been having trouble. I want off the peep!
@T-Mak-s7x
@T-Mak-s7x 6 күн бұрын
Hunt Groundhogs in summer with your bow. Set up tree stands on runs or by holes & use your broadhead’s. This helped me. Good way to get permission to deer hunt too.
@bryanheimann5370
@bryanheimann5370 7 күн бұрын
Your comments on 280 feet per second are completely out of context. Still, Elites are slow. That’s the problem. 280 is not magic. 280-290 is about the limit for most fixed heads to fly good. That is why you keep hearing/seeing 280. The problem is you closed your mind to the idea that speed matters. 450 grains, + or -, is the sweet spot for a modern compound bow.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 5 күн бұрын
Well said. Here's the facts bud. Mass creates momentum, momentum keeps things moving and we are at the limit of speed. I did a whole series with a lab radar (Long range arrow performance playlist) and the momentum keeps going up with mass (while speed goes down) - and it is also tested at 60 yards. IF we had the velocity of rifles, the discussion is very different. Fact is, we don't. As far as "closed mind". I shot fast, light, mechanicals, and every whiz bang thing over 35 years of doing this crazy game. I am "BC" - before carbon, hell man, when carbon came out we put OVERDRAWS on our bows to go even faster. It was hilarious. It did not help arrow flight (to your point on 280 for fixed - we agree), we lost penetration compared to our "neanderthal aluminum arrows" but we kept saying "Speed fixes everything". I was in on that message 100%. I remember being one of the first of my friends in a trad group to shoot carbons. I was ostracized!!! Damn the flew so good! But I kept having penetration, on animals,....I believe the best word is inconsistency. So I said "why"......and went exploring.
@bryanheimann5370
@bryanheimann5370 2 күн бұрын
@@RanchFairy well, I built and tuned a 650+ grain arrow with 300 in the nose for my trad bow. 50 pound Bear Montana, and I have a 30” draw. It was tricky but I was able to tune a 340 spine Easton Carbon Legacy with clever use of arrow wraps and etc. I got it dialed in with a 12”x1” vinyl wrap I cut myself, and an arrow 31” from nock throat to back of the head. Total weight without fletching is 638 grains, after I 4-fletch that with 5” feathers it will be over 650. Plus my heads are Zwickey No Mercy and will add about ten grains. I am not sweating that discrepancy because when I was tuning my nock point I split a 2x4 on a miss with a nock high bare shaft. It should penetrate pretty good. I can usually go up or down 25 grains in point weight from a tuned arrow without effecting broadhead flight.
@chuckvandien7473
@chuckvandien7473 7 күн бұрын
I know it's an old video but this video saved me