7 MLB teams in danger of RELOCATION

[@brodiebrazil]

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[@skiparkcityut]

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[@thedailytalon9259]

There is zero chance the Cardinals relocate

[@adamNDkipker]

That's exactely what I said when I seen the Cardinals on this list...That will never happen the CARDINALS WILL NEVER LEAVE !!!!

[@floridajack7222]

St. Louis - a drinking town with a baseball problem…

[@brodiebrazil]

maybe not today, but this is exactly how it begins

[@michaelleroy9281]

That they're even talking about it is not good

[@westvillefinest697]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@samuelfrick3475]

There’s no way the Cardinals move 🤣

[@brodiebrazil]

correct, not now. but: if this public funding thing gets messy after 10 years...

[@scottrichardson4086]

While the Cardinals request of $500M + in public money is ludicrous, the thought that they might leave the St. Louis area is even more ludicrous. And you mentioned the age of the stadium being around 25 years old……this is actually the 19th year in this stadium, opened in 2006. By the way, love all of your content but this one is a huge stretch.

[@MountainFisher]

@@scottrichardson4086 Have you seen the crime in St. Louis, empty downtown bldgs? Brodie is right. it's a matter of time.

[@JitterMac1019]

😂😂😂 absolute zero chance that the saint louis cards move to out of downtown saint louis

[@TobiasSmith-u9b]

@@brodiebrazil You are hilarious. The St. Louis fanbase is irreplaceable. Most dedicated fans in baseball.

[@patricktyler2347]

Relocating the Cardinals would seriously be like relocating the Yankees. St. Louis is one of MLB's flagship teams, there is exactly a 0% chance they move my guy.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

The City of St. Louis has a population of less than 275,000 so it is a city in decline. This is less than Gilbert, AZ. Considering there are several metropolitan areas without an MLB team that are more populous than St. Louis, then relocation is not out of the question.

[@tdubmusketeer]

@@HighpointerGeocacherthe STL metro has 2.8 million people. So yeah they’re safe

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

@@tdubmusketeer If you look at current population trends, the Charlotte metropolitan area has surpassed the St. Louis metropolitan area in population, and Charlotte is growing at a fast rate while the St. Louis area population is declining. Charlotte is on the NC-SC border, so combining the population of the two Carolinas you would have over 16 million people. Thus, if the St. Louis Cardinals moved to Charlotte, they could have over 16 million people in their region. In contrast, the population of Missouri is about 6.2 million, but that is shared with two teams so consider that approximately half of those people would be in the Cardinals region of the state. That is about 3.1 million people. St. Louis is adjacent to southern Illinois, but most of the population of Illinois resides in greater Chicago (which has two teams). If you used 2024 population estimates, then the number of people living in southern Illinois is around 2 or 3 million. Thus, if we round up to 3 million, and add half the population of Missouri, then we get around 6 or 7 million. That is less than half of the combined population of the two Carolinas. Thus, it could make sense, from a long-term perspective, for the Cardinals to consider a move to Charlotte. This is not the 1950's anymore, population distributions and demographics have changed markedly throughout the United States. One could say that the Cardinals are an "iconic" franchise that wouldn't move, but the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants could have been considered in that category in the 1950's yet both moved to California. At that time, California (which is now a state in decline) was viewed in much the same way as the Carolinas are today (both booming states with a lot of population growth, particularly from the northern USA as well as from other parts of the USA and internationally). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

[@cmbox1184]

@@HighpointerGeocacherthat’s irrelevant considering they still draw better crowds than most of the league. Just because a city has more people doesn’t mean they’ll show up to games

[@justinzeid212]

@@HighpointerGeocacher I'm not included in that 280,000 and a drive to the ballpark for me is about 25 minutes.

[@heathrunyon4036]

Cardinals are staying in St. Louis

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

good.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

Don't be too surprised if the Cardinals are in danger of moving. Here is a video that posted within the past 24 hours: St. Louis Cardinals tickets available for $0 as attendance hits lowest level at Busch Stadium III kzbin.info/www/bejne/npbdk4F5jquIb68

[@Chudley716]

Who builds a state of the art house and abandons it after 30 years? It’s crazy what the taxpayers are forced to pay for in sports.

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

Sounds like you're referring to the Chicago White Sox? As long as Jerry Reinsdorf owns the team, they will continue to struggle on the field with Reinsdorf refusing to spend any money to improve the team, plus making the wrong people in place to keep them from succeeding, and outdrawing the Flubs in attendance, not to mention trying to get taxpayers to foot the bill for a new ballpark, instead of paying for it himself, even though there's nothing wrong with the current ballpark.

[@tonyc8752]

Cardinals? 😂😂😂 that’s 0 percent chance

[@boogitybear2283]

The Cardinals need to be like the Green Bay Packers. Owned by the FANS!

[@moetmike]

Never underestimate The cheapness and greed of these owners. They always want someone else to pay for their sh!t.

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

good.

[@JohnHillRSNStudios]

The fact that there are rumors that the Cardinals of all teams could move is a scary thing for baseball, given how much St Louis loves the Cards and the deep tradition that team has in that city.

[@Bob-Loblaw13]

There’s no way the cards would move. The city is like top 3 when it comes being a baseball town. And if they did, a new team would set up shop in a heart beat

[@uvutv-ol8qk]

You don't want piss off STL. The city finally has a football team. Even though it's in the UFL, the fans broke the spring league record for attendance. Imagine what would happen if the Cards left.

[@JohnHillRSNStudios]

@@uvutv-ol8qk yeah that’s the thing: they turn out at least three times four times the crowd for a spring league football team and regularly pack out Busch. Heck if they could get an NBA team there they’d support them too.

[@samelmudir]

If the cards move I'd stop watching baseball. One of the 5 cornerstone franchises in the sport. And I'm not even a cards fan

[@skaftonmd8916]

There is ZERO chance the Cardinals would EVER leave St. Louis. Leave downtown? Maybe. Leave the St. Louis Metro or even leave Missouri? NO CHANCE. They will of course need funding, but most will likely not come from the city, even if it’s threatened. A new ownership group would be much more likely, but I also doubt that would happen either. St. Louis was willing to put up, and voted in favor of, 300M with an extra 100M down the road to keep the Rams when the NFL promised to fund 200M before breaking that deal. In fact, St. Louis put so much into keeping the Rams, that they forced a settlement from the NFL in court for their foul play in moving to LA. Hell, look at what we did to keep the Blues back in 1983 - which prevented them from moving to Saskatoon. To think that St. Louis would not go further than any city in baseball to keep their team is just insane. This is wild speculative propaganda. The only way a professional sports team leaves St. Louis is if the entire league wants that team to move regardless of what’s done to keep the team. Which could of course happen, but for MLB? I highly doubt it…

[@zch7491]

St Louis is going through a cash grab, not a legit relocation threat

[@damonselman636]

Sorry the Cardinals should not be included with the others. I live among Cardinals fans and that fanbase is like MLB version of Packers fans (a fanbase a lot larger than the teams city would otherwise indicate) and they are what ESPN think Red Sox fans are.

[@RldMemories]

I'm a Phillies fan and went to their spring training in 2023. Before I came home, I went to the Rays' opening day game and that stadium was great, from the food to the view. The worst thing about it was driving to the stadium. My Air Bnb was located 25 mins away but took me nearly 2 hours to get there. That's why it's never sold out because of the location. The new stadium will have the same problems with low attendance. Get it out of St. Petersburg.....

[@mascott1157]

Living in one of Tampa’s suburbs, I actually enjoy Tropicana and the owners have done a good job keeping it updated over the years for what they have, but that drive once you get to 275 in Pinellas is character building.

[@petertalsness3238]

Move it to the fairgrounds area at the intersection of I-4 and I-75

[@RSeaker]

If you don't win, the fans don't show up. Small TV markets don't help. Maybe the best model is a team in the top 21 TV markets, and then add one more each for NY, LA, and Chicago for 24 teams. Past that, league subsidies and perennially bad teams will continue.

[@jimpagano2343]

0% chance the Cardinals move. The current stadium opened in 2006. Kind of hard to imagine "Ballpark Village" without a Ballpark.

[@JEndless2025]

I would put the Marlins over the Cardinals. I know the Marlins got a new shiny stadium in 2012, but that didn't fix their attendance woes. Their ownership continues to be bad. It's not going to happen in the next 5 years, but in 10-15 years I could see the Marlins being sold and moved out of MIami.

[@leguy5662]

I can't see the MLB leaving Miami.

[@fatzotv]

@@leguy5662 i agree, Miami is the next Megacity blossoming, the market will just be too big to not have a team in it

[@leguy5662]

Cardinals not moving either

[@James_Ford4815]

@@fatzotv Miami needs to change back to their old turquoise uniforms but instead of a big F just change it to a big M. That alone would immediately garner them a hoard of new young fans from all over the country. Having the most flashy of uniform and colors is what 8yr - 20yr of this day in age use to pick which team they support. I would think a lot of older fans with nostalgia would come back to support as well. But it would need to be done at the same time as some splashy free agent signings and a team that at least be in contention of making the wild card game or playoffs. Sadly though ownership is more in line of the Oankland A's where they're not willing to spend on free agents until attendance is up , so they get stuck in this awful downward trend of bad seasons and horrible attendance with no way out.

[@michaelleroy9281]

So that stadium in Miami sits empty, then what the hell did they build it for? nothing

[@EPiche09]

St Louis really needs a new stadium? What ever happened to building things to last. Unbelievable. The two most recognized stadiums in the league are 100 years old

[@michaelleroy9281]

The Cardinals have played in 3 stadiums in their history and they want another one?

[@ThatIanShane]

The aren't asking for a new stadium. They are asking for a capital improvement of the current Busch Stadium. Renovations, repairs, upgrades...that sort of thing.

[@NHLUtahPlainBagel]

They want to have an update of what today's stadium experience is these days

[@chriscreaturo8809]

St. Louis is a staple franchise. I do not see that team moving

[@paulamcdonald5446]

Anyone that supports public funding of stadiums owned by billionaires better not complain about taxes, raising minimum wage, etc. You are allowing socialized costs and losses with privatized profits.

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

100%

[@NHLUtahPlainBagel]

All of the sports owners don't own the stadiums. They're the main tenants of the stadium.The city or county owns the arenas/stadiums.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Nashville isn't big enough for 7 major league teams even New York only has 2

[@Hogtownboy1]

Ba da boom

[@sabertoothbaseball3432]

Nashville citizens don't want to pay for one team. The cost of living in Nashville has skyrocketed, and the Mayor was elected on a promise of not one dollar to finance another sports venue. Rumor has it that the Grizzlies have looked into leaving Memphis for Nashville, but that wouldn't require any funds for an arena, just a juggling of scheduling with the Predators. Only if Larry Ellison builds a stadium on the future Oracle Nashville campus is there a real chance for MLB in Nashville. The Nashville Stars group doesn't have the financing to get it done in expansion, and anybody wanting to move to Nashville will have to build their own ballpark.

[@wendellblackett8317]

They may get A.A if Vegas calls throug h

[@FischerFan]

Nashville shouldn't have an NHL team. It should have an AHL team and could probably support an NBA team.

[@sabertoothbaseball3432]

@@FischerFan the Predators sell out almost every game and have for years. There is more feverish support for them than for the Titans.

[@bena.3955]

There are not enough cities available to support all these teams that want to move.

[@americangiant1003]

Exactly Bena. At most only 4-5 cities/regions in the US and Canada can or really wants a MLB team without having to go to Mexico or even into Asia. I agree.

[@jesusm2159]

Mlb is embarrassing to sports

[@clarkst.4190]

Moving the Cardinals out of St. Louis is like moving the Cowboys out of Dallas or the Maple Leafs out of Toronto. Will NEVER happen.

[@vancedurbin1132]

The Cowboys play in Arlington and not Dallas.

[@clarkst.4190]

@@vancedurbin1132 😂semantics

[@michaelleroy9281]

Actually the Cowboys have moved twice, to Irving then to Arlington

[@makscho1]

I’m speaking honestly and from the heart when I say if the athletics and their minor-league team, the aviators were playing the same night here in Vegas, I would 100% go to the aviators game. The aviators experience is so user-friendly and enjoyable, why would I spend double the ticket cost, pay for parking, and battle with strip traffic to watch a mediocre team? They are doing really well though right now.

[@666kingdrummer]

Minor League > Major League

[@mactheknife7049]

With the exception of the Cardinals? Any relocation threat by a team mentioned here would be met with a "Go ahead... we dare you" response.

[@mattkramer4132]

I'm a baseball fan, but all I want to do is chill and see a ballgame & have a hot dog. There's no real need for these multibillion dollar facilities.

[@acatani17]

Yeah the corporate feel of all new stadiums is off putting I hate it. But it's all about the all mighty dollar now. They don't care about the real fans for a long time now.

[@DanielCurious]

@@acatani17Yup. Busch 3 is a great park, but I enjoyed myself a great deal more at the Coliseum since relocating from the Midwest to the Bay Area.

[@scobo4743]

All municipalites and state governments should collude and say no to all sports leagues' requests for public money and deals. Pay your own way!

[@ronwebster1114]

First, i wouldn't consider a team staying in the same market as a relocation (Anaheim v Long Beach for example). Second, a problem is the owners are getting even more greedy. Just a stadium isnt enough. It has to be a palace, and they want to have the surrounding area as well to develop as part of the cost.

[@fatzotv]

cardinals relocation is insane lol how many busch stadiums am i gonna see in my lifetime ha. the other 6 i could see relocating somehow... this is also why i dont understand why MLB would be considering expansion with so many teams having these issues

[@thebaseballnerd4570]

This is why I like hockey a little bit more than MLB in the NHL as well as the commissioner. Will do everything humanly possible to keep a team in a market. With the MLB will just threaten relocation it’s chunk change.

[@bena.3955]

He bent over backwards so much for the Coyotes. It wouldn’t have shocked me if they had put a temporary rink on the border in Yuma before considering leave AZ 😆

[@Enginshim]

As an Islander fan, I agree 100%

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

Bettman gave up on Atlanta quickly, but for some reason didn't on Phoenix, which has arena issues. Atlanta didn't have an arena issue. Think about that. ATL had a bad hockey team with poor ownership, but it's a top 10 market and size with a good arena. But he just pulled the team without much thought.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

@@PoliticallyIncorrect90the thrashers were left homeless too. the previous owners still owned now-state farm arena and in a lawsuit mess. thats why the thrashers moved to winnipeg so quickly, unlike arizona who got 15 years to fix it

[@leesdroidaccountharbin9665]

And that's why there's an NHL arena that's serving the best peach cobbler in North American sports..... NOT!

[@dannythunder3180]

Busch stadium opened in 2006, so it's 18 years old

[@elsongs]

Angel Stadium is a few months older than the Oakland Coliseum, making it the 4th oldest MLB ballpark. It opened at the beginning of the 1966 baseball season, whereas the Oakland Coliseum opened towards the end of the 1966 baseball season.

[@timothysworld1028]

1. Fenway Park -- Boston Red Sox 2. Wrigley Field -- Chicago Cubs 3. Dodger Stadium -- Los Angeles Dodgers 4. Angel Stadium -- Los Angeles Angels 5. Oakland Coliseum -- Oakland Athletics MBL stadiums by age.

[@BellaBellaElla]

6. Kauffman stadium

[@yeewhiz]

As are relocating. Angel stadium is the only mediocre stadium in this list.

[@MountainFisher]

Arte Moreno had threatened to move up the freeway to Diamond Bar a few years ago. No way Arte moves to Long Beach, be cheaper to buy land in Diamond Bar than Long Beach on the water. I went to the Big A on Opening Day 1966 and watched them play at Chavez Ravine for the three years prior. Fun fact, Dodger Stadium was always called Chavez Ravine when the Angels played there. Was called Dodger Stadium when the Dodgers played. My uncle always thought it was funny. The Rays attendance will improve just by moving out of that dark musty stadium. But Florida just hasn't been a big baseball state, I guess from having so many transplants there.

[@robertlee6781]

Even more interesting, the Angels played in Wrigley Field their first season. Granted the LA Wrigley Field.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

You wrote, "Fun fact, Dodger Stadium was always called Chavez Ravine when the Angels played there. Was called Dodger Stadium when the Dodgers played." Similar to when the Jets moved from Shea Stadium to Giants Stadium, the Jets called it The Meadowlands when they played there.

[@MountainFisher]

@@HighpointerGeocacher I remember that, but I wasn't aware that was the reason. I wondered why the stadium was called the 2 names. I remember the first time I saw it from the NJ Turnpike out there in the middle of what looked like a marsh to me.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

if they’re looking in st pete i think its going to be rough… need it on the tampa side of the bay

[@sofaking8228]

It would be very funny if each of these teams' cities told them, "No. Go ahead, move." Where would they go?

[@tombraiderstrums09]

Fans still packing out Wrigley and Fenway, but we got other crybaby owners whining that their 20yo stadiums are “too old” and they need taxpayer funds to build a bigger better one. Gimme a break

[@Narutowatcher465]

"It's time to leave the K" -John Sherman, Royals. Whiny ass baby.

[@S_Over_Street]

How I see all these teams end up… Cardinals- staying in the St Louis area. MLB will work any way possible to keep one of their top staple franchises in that area. Rays - if St Pete (& county) don’t approve that new ballpark they’re moving to Orlando. White Sox - if state doesn’t approve funding (which I doubt they will) they’ll likely move. Which city? IDK is my guess. Royals - moving to Kansas City, Kansas. Angels - staying somewhere in Orange County. D-Backs - will get a new ballpark somewhere in the Phoenix region. Probably near Scottsdale. Athletics- hate to say this as I wish they’d stay in Oakland too…. Las Vegas as planned by the end of this decade.

[@CubeInspector]

No the rays will not move to Orlando. If they move theyre moving to Montreal like they were already trying to half time with. Going to Orlando won't solve the problem. Orlando isn't a good market and there's no place to put a stadium because if all the theme parks.

[@nikolaspaz8820]

I honestly think the Rays deal will get approved

[@americangiant1003]

@@nikolaspaz8820 I think as of May 2024, the Rays staying in St Pete/Tampa region is at best 50/50. With that said, I agree with CubeInspector. It’s either a new 30,000 retractable roof ballpark in St Pete. Or the Rays move most likely to either Montreal or wild card the Charlotte area. FYI. The only way Montreal gets a MLB is a relocated one. It’s Nashville, Charlotte and Salt Lake City for the 2 new teams.

[@nikolaspaz8820]

@@americangiant1003 I live in Florida so I’ve heard a lot about it I would say it’s alittle bit more than 50/50 due to the fact that the mayor of St. Pete is in favor of this deal and a lot of big businesses are also in support of it like the St. Pete NCAAP which is an important endorsement but nonetheless the city council members are voting on it so far 3 out of the 8 members are skeptic, a tie would mean no deal but by the looks of it it’s pretty close and ultimately I think it’ll pass obviously could be wrong we’ve seen things change pretty quickly before but there’s a lot of benefits here especially the Hines group which has designed so many great projects the only thing I don’t like is taxpayers paying for almost half but the Rays made sure to not get that on the ballot

[@michaelleroy9281]

Montreal needs a new ballpark for a team to move there

[@jimough2441]

The first thing you must understand, to discuss this issue is, the market conditions have changed. It is no longer a high priority for a large number of citizens to have a sports franchise. The only two teams that seem logical to move out of their current region are The A's and Rays. Both have had attendance problems for decades.

[@jasonfire3434]

It’s not limited to these seven, basically every 30 years every team’s fans save for 5-6 of the best markets will have to be on relocation watch in perpetuity.

[@marchmaps]

Busch Stadium is just 18 years old. Yeah, they're asking for funding but there is ZERO relocation danger.

[@joshuadesautels]

The CARDINALS??

[@rangersking6699]

@@RobertDetertthat’s not relocation lol that’s like saying the pistons relocated. No, that’s just moving into a new arena in a different part of town.

[@Bob-Loblaw13]

@@RobertDetertthere’s no way that would happen. Busch stadium is literally in the best spot possible for the city. Attendance would drastically be affected if they moved to stl county or further

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

@@Bob-Loblaw13 The Braves used data analytics and geographic information systems (GIS) to determine the area where the largest number of their fans came from and used that data to determine the location to build their current stadium in a suburban area of Atlanta, relocating from the location of their two prior stadiums in central Atlanta. This has enabled the Braves to improve their attendance and maintain their team success.

[@timmccrory7630]

We want you as a sportscaster here in Houston Texas. So that is another relocation.

[@marksousa8595]

What about the owners pay for their own toys? And use taxpayers money on Healthcare and education?

[@ucumari77]

So tired of multi billionaire owners trying to hold cities hostage. How about funding education instead? What are owners going to do when they run out of cities willing to mortgage their cities future?

[@redx1106]

Who cares about education kids these days don’t know history or geography

[@mattcraig4601]

Education needs to be reformed top to bottom and not have money thrown at it.

[@davidlasdon457]

Cities don't fund education. States do. Your assumption that every city in America needs more money for education is unlikely.

[@James_Ford4815]

I feel like a lot of these billion dollar deals are also skim off the top scams. No different than the trillion dollar GOV bills , no one is going to notice or care where the over budgeted money goes.

[@Bk6346]

That’s a red herring. If people really cared about education then increase property taxes to pay for it. But most Americans don’t want their taxes increase.

[@BellaBellaElla]

Where the Sox currently are is a site with more trains RIGHT THERE, and they have been at that intersection since 1910 and are a flagship AL team. The parking lots at Sox park take up more pace than the undeveloped land at the 78 in the south loop, they need to develop the area they are at, not move!!!

[@bencaras5524]

I live in California. In my 50 years on this planet I have never met anyone from Chicago that is a fan of the White Sox; only the Cubs.

[@michaelleroy9281]

You have one right here I went th Irough the near last minute move on June 30 1988 I remember listening to the late night coverage from Springfield on WBBM News radio 78

[@alvizothegreat8096]

Really, I'm from Chicago been to California and met many White Sox fan

[@robertlee6781]

Sox fan that grew up on the North side of Chicago here.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

they exist. but the cubs are more popular

[@bigstevesnostalgiadragraci4240]

I love baseball, but why should the taxpayer pay for someone else' business?

[@tombraiderstrums09]

I wonder if the Diamondbacks and Coyotes joined forces, would that change circumstances enough so they could make another run at that land in Tempe? It’s not the same referendum if the development proposal changes significantly. Of course, that would require Alex Meruelo to be nice to someone, and I think we all know how that’s likely to turn out 🙄

[@DaVictonator]

White Sox are not relocating. They might not be as popular as the Cubs but they are still a historic team. They have tried to relocate like 5 times but they have always failed

[@NHLUtahPlainBagel]

Loyalty and history means nothing,just asked Brodie and the As fans

[@RobZelinka]

It's a stretch to suggest the White Sox would leave Chicago, the 3rd largest TV market in the country. Their issue is they're fielding a bad team. The stadium being old is crazy. It's serviceable. If they want to leave for a market like Nashville, go ahead, even if they were to draw more there, the team won't be as profitable as it could be in Chicago. Similar case for the Angels. There's no way the Angels leave LA, the 2nd largest TV market in the country. Whether they're for sale or not has little bearing on this. Again, they're not going to leave that market for Charlotte, Nashville, Portland, etc.

[@jeffreybelluomini5271]

nobody cares about the sox in Chicago.. the Cubs rule that city with an iron fist. No chance Jerry gets money for a new stadium and if Nashville offers to build him one for free he would absolutely leave.

[@americangiant1003]

Actually Rob this is not the year 1980 or even 2000. If current census data continues either Dallas or Houston or even both will be America’s 3rd and 4th largest city and or market by middle of this current 21st century at the latest. Don’t put anything past Jerry Reinsdorf. With his large role in both causing the 1994/‘95 MLB strike and ending the Bulls 1990 NBA championship dynasty(there are tons of books, news articles and video news clips confirming this) even at close to the century age himself, Reinsdorf is always out for making more money. Traditions and money be damn. 😡 On that point, I am much more confident of the Angels staying in the LA region(even if they left Anaheim) than the White Sox staying in Chicago with Reinsdorf in charge.

[@RobZelinka]

If I had wheels and peddles, I might be a bicycle... That aside, I understand the point you are making. Both DFW and HOU will likely surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest metropolitan area in the US. That said, whether that happens this year or in 10 years, CHI will still be a major market, and a top3 TV market at that. I lived there during the 90's watched the Bulls dynasty. I would submit it would have ended sooner or later, maybe not the next year, but likely there after. All good things must come to an end sooner or later. The most likely reality is Jerry will sell the team as he is fastly approaching 90. It will only be then that we'll see what happens. No matter, when you field a poor team, it doesn't matter much where you are located, you will have problems drawing, selling hats, jerseys, etc. Lets say he does not sell the team, he'll leverage the city, and state of IL just like he did in years past. Being in a town like Nashville, Portland, Charlotte, versus being in a city like Chicago, NY, LA, etc. creates challenges for a team to draw. If you think those towns can draw more fans over a sustained period of time than a big city, so be it. I do not.

[@jeffreybelluomini5271]

@RobZelinka the sox would definitely have higher attendance in Nashville than they ever would in Chicago. The Cubs massively out draw them every year... No matter what the Sox do they will always be irrelevant in Chicago.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Different Situation in 1988 than in 2024 the White Sox had a near finished stadium in St Petersburg ( the one the Rays are trying to get out of now) they don't have one to move to right now

[@ronavena]

In the early 60s, Civic Center Redevelopment Corporation, spawned by the local chamber of commerce, built what became Busch II, which opened in 1966. A-B bought the stadium 16 years later. For Busch III, St. Louis City put together a financial plan where the only public dollars was apparently a loan from St. Louis County. Despite today’s economic times, this is now the first time the team is asking for some $500M in public money. A former St. Louisan, I think this is worth it to ensure the Cards stay in STL.

[@Rich-l7b]

Fenway 1912 Wrigley 1914 Dodger Stadium 1962 Angel Stadium and Oakland Coliseum 1966

[@michaelleroy9281]

The next oldest after all of those Kauffman Stadium 1973

[@evanb0611]

Brother the cardinals moving is ludicrous. Also Busch is only 18 years old

[@TS-wh4ey]

Correct.......2006

[@vincenzof3863]

Montreal Expos were waiting for a team in Montreal.

[@papabare1977]

When I think of the "Old Guard" of MLB, I think of the Reds, Yankees, Red Sox, Tigers, Pirates, Cubs, as well as the Cardinals and White Sox. It would be so bizarre (and sad) to see either of those teams in a different city.

[@rogerknueven7468]

Four of those teams do not draw well.😅

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

See my post explaining the regional limitations experienced by the Pittsburgh Pirates. This may explain why the Pirates have been one of the least successful MLB teams since they won their last World Series over 35 years ago.

[@BoulderCityBlues]

Other than Tampa Bay and Oakland no other team is going to relocate ..And the Oakland to Las Vegas relocation is still up in the air because of 3 lawsuits , Fishers lack of investors and the fact Ballys stock in sinking faster than the Titanic ..Manfred and greedy owners are killing the game and the fans are the ones who are paying the price ..

[@FranklinDAbest]

Cardinals are one of the big historical team in MLB no shot they move but they almost did move to Houston so anything can happen

[@michaelleroy9281]

Now that Salt Lake City has approved 900 million for facilities , could the White Sox move there? It will take approval of owners of course

[@retailhiphop1991]

I stongly believe that the White Sox will end up in the suburbs. Cardinals moving is a joke.

[@leesdroidaccountharbin9665]

Cicero White Sox.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

The White Sox should move, in my opinion. They will likely break the record for futility established by the 1962 Mets for most losses in a single season. Two places for the White Sox to consider. First, if they don't want to move very far, they should consider Indianapolis. They would have the entire state of Indiana to themselves rather than playing second fiddle to the Cubs in the declining and increasingly unsafe city of Chicago. Indiana has a population of nearly 7 million, greater than other Midwestern states with MLB teams including Wisconsin, Minnesota, and the two-team state of Missouri. Second, the other metro area would be Charlotte, in NC near the border with SC. The two Carolinas combined have a population over 16 million, which if it was a single state would be greater in population than all but four states and would be the most populous state with a single MLB team (until a future team arrives in the Raleigh-Durham area, which would be likely given current population growth trends). Also, the current AAA affiliate of the White Sox is in Charlotte.

[@leesdroidaccountharbin9665]

@@HighpointerGeocacher no. The White Sox moving would affect a 6 decade plus rivalry that's one of the best in baseball.

[@retailhiphop1991]

@HighpointerGeocacher If you think MLB is going to leave Chicago, the 3rd largest market with only one team then you don't know sports economics.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

@@leesdroidaccountharbin9665 How could they have a great rivalry if they are in different leagues? Although regular season interleague play did not exist at that time, one could have argued that the St. Louis Cardinals and Browns had a stronger rivalry when they were both in St. Louis, as they shared the same stadium and played each other in the 1944 World Series, less than 10 years before the Browns moved to Baltimore to become the Orioles. In the first half of the 20th Century, the St. Louis metropolitan area had a great percentage of the total USA population than the Chicago metropolitan area has today. For example, in 1950 the population within the city limits of St. Louis, about 850,000, was around 100,000 higher than the entire population of Arizona, which was about 750,000.

[@franciscoc905]

Dbacks stadium is in dire need of repairs and while I don’t like the grunge match going on, I rather keep them in Phoenix as the current location is perfect with the new renovations downtown

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

As a resident of the greater Phoenix area, I would prefer to see the Diamondbacks in Scottsdale instead of Phoenix.

[@Shawn2ndaccount]

Not a Cardinals fan but serious, the Cards will never change cities. That's Baseball history. Anything for views.

[@colinmac3144]

Absolutely zero chance the Cardinals leave

[@RogerLambert-s5f]

Too bad the Red Sox are still playing in that fossil called Fenway Park.

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

Nice sound effects. You look relaxed and having fun making videos.

[@MW53516]

Nats fan, surprised we were not on this list. The chance of us moving is close to zero, but with the Lerners looking to sell the team and the chaos around the MASN lawsuit it’s not the craziest thing I’ve ever heard

[@calabria1967]

The Cardinals finished in last place for the third time in over 100 years - and still drew over 3 million people -- what are you smoking to report that they are a relocation candidate?

[@moonytheloony6516]

The Sox are so outta Chicago it's actually amusing more than it is tragic. Ultimately Illinois will have to choose a team, Bears vs White Sox with their public funding help....it will be the Bears and the NFL in a landslide....say hello to Salt Lake City for the Sox, where an already funded stadium awaits.

[@watsonroadster3707]

Go back to Wrigley...

[@tripleb1916]

Sox are not going to Utah

[@michaelleroy9281]

24 out of 30 owners would have to approve a move from a move from the 3 rd largest city in the country and all the TV and radio revenue to whatever size market Salt Lake City is

[@lmswentzeljr]

Outside of the Cardinals, the other 6 its plausible they could all move, I would prefer these teams stay where they are at.

[@leaveittobaker]

Not thumbs down, Thumbs Up!! 😉 👍

[@viperswhip]

I do not support any public funds for companies that are chasing profits, but I do agree that enough can make it happen. Every such transaction should require a public referendum, and it will never pass lol

[@hamburglar83]

Also relocation means to a new region not just another city in the same metro….

[@ClintMcCollum]

There may be "danger" of teams moving, but the MLB is the most stable league with its frabchises. In the last 50 years, only two teams have moved. Washington losing a team to Texas (1972) and and the Expos move to Washington in 2005. Of your 7 teams, Oakland is a done deal to Vegas. Tampa is the best bet of the others to move. I don't see Angels, Cardinals, White Sox or D'backs moving. I don't count the Royals move to the the Kansas side of KC as moving. The White Sox have been in relocation rumors a dozen times over the last 50 years. Could happen... but doubt it.

[@thescott7539]

It wasn't always rumors for the white sox. Tropicana Field was literally built for the White Sox. Then they backed out after they got their stadium deal for New Comiskey (at the very last minute). Later, the Giants used the Trop as leverage to get their new stadium.

[@graysondossett1558]

Dude labeled cardinals as something to watch and clarified it the least likely to happen, yet half the comments are “the cardinals aren’t moving!!!!!!!” Like it’s not at all what he said. Alot of these situations will likely get solved, but should be kept watch of too. It doesn’t mean he thinks all these teams are moving.

[@specter_badguy9675]

Thanks for the video, I as a Cardinals fan needed a good chuckle (other then our shit offense) and saying the Cards might move is funny as hell

[@revan5293]

My dbacks can’t move.

[@DaveySports98]

None of those are in serious danger except the White Sox & maybe Rays

[@BeastieBoy1974]

St. Louis Cardinals are going nowhere. However, you might want to add the Miami Marlins to this list.

[@mr.belairpotato5895]

Omaha nebraska needs a baseball team. Give them the omaha white sox⚫️⚪️

[@dshap42]

Frank McCourt* is talking about building on the dodgers stadium parking lot, without approval or trying to work with the Dodgers. He still owns the other half (pain)

[@tonymeehan7859]

I'm fine if the Royals leave for Kansas City , Kansas. Just as long as it is in Kansas City period!

[@barrywright3670]

Cardinals not leaving St. Louis

[@Mrtop9-ji5ex]

I’m a Cardinals fan from St. Louis and I know they will never leave.

[@georgehand]

I can’t believe the Cardinals are here as I saw them & the Cubs in London last year in the green & gold and it was electric, now of course this year I’ll be in the red & white representing my new team the Phillies

[@ronavena]

Now a Chicagoland resident, I think the White Sox stay in Chicago, and I think the State and City will find a way to contribute public dollars so long as Reinsdorf puts up a substantial amount himself. Why? He’d face lots of backlash itself if he threatens to move the Sox elsewhere. Chicago sports fans would immediately take it out on him by boycotting his Chicago Bulls team. Manfred is wrong that major cities can get by with only one MLB team. Ever since 1901, Chicago has had at least two MLB teams, one for the South Side and one for the North. This is not like SF & Oakland, which had teams locate there from NYC & KC, respectively. Preserving the historic AL Chicago franchise is worth it for MLB.

[@maywoodric]

Sox fan here. I think MLB will tell Reinsdorf , “ You will get the Nashville expansion franchise. The Sox will stay put. You sign over the Sox to us. “ if you refuse, the answer is No!!!!

[@VolumedMusicMan]

I’m for the relocation of the White Sox near the West Loop. There is potential for more revenue and attendance .Right now the public isn’t keen on coughing up tax dollars. Jerry R better fork out the dollars. At the same time, Bears are going in for a stadium deal. I hope the White Sox are not squeezed out.

[@michaelleroy9281]

You must be assuming Reinsdorf is still going to be around when the White Sox lease ends

[@maywoodric]

@@michaelleroy9281 He’s Mr. Burns. A hundred and something years old.

[@rogerknueven7468]

White Sox do not draw fans like they should.There always in bottom fourth in league I can see them moving.Plus don't think to much of city so called leaders.

[@IanOnTheDL]

It is absolutely insane that it costs half a billion dollars just to renovate a baseball stadium let alone build a new one.

[@jemiller226]

"There should be some consistency" The only consistency in the Big 4 has been change. Relocations are strangely *uncommon* right now in baseball. There's only been one relocation in the last 52 years, but in the 18 years prior to that, there were 10 moves.

[@jamesl1130]

The Angels moving to Long Beach would experience worse traffic than current location

[@seano3811]

Brodie- you are a hell of a good reporter/broadcaster. Really enjoy these videos…

[@brodiebrazil]

thank you

[@DankyWankyVr]

The Rays and Sox are in serious trouble. I could see Nashville and Charlotte getting them

[@michaelleroy9281]

One small formality 24 out of 30 owners would have to approve a move leaving Chicago sure as hell wouldn't be unanimous

[@rogerknueven7468]

White sox are gone they suck .They don't draw win a ws once 😅every 50 yrs.

[@richardsass5906]

The White Sox have to be high on the list. There is no way the city and state will give them the money they need.

[@LockHavenBaldEagleJP]

White Sox are in trouble. Their best hope was to work with the Bears. With the two sides working separately, I can't see two different stadium tax bills passing. The chances of them beating the Bears for funds are nil. If its money or bust, they will be in Nashville or Charlotte. Like you said about the Royals, they're gonna just swap Kansas City's Rays if they don't this St. Pete deal done are in trouble. See them going to Orlando. Angels go to Long Beach if things dont work in Anaheim. Difference between the Diamondbacks and Coyotes is the DBacks have clout and stability in the region, their owner is generally liked, respected and appreciated. The Coyotes owners were almost all considered clowns and Leah from Phnx Hockey covered how poorly regarded the last was. Scottsdale is a very real area for the new park, but I'd be shocked if the team bids on that area of land Meurelo is planning to bid on. That would potentially alienate a demographic of their fan base. I know theres ample room at Salt River Fields where they hold Spring Training and their rookie league team to build their entertainment district that they've considered more than once. Big hold up is there's no form of public transportation that gets up there. Big plus with downtown is you can take the light rail and walk a block or two to get to games. As you alluded to, zero chance with the Cardinals. St. Louis and the state won't let that happen.

[@davidtosh7200]

How about Miami Marlins? They also draw low attendance.

[@JayRoberts244]

Implying the Cardinals are in danger of relocating is one of the absolute worst sports takes ever

[@KittyPurrfect100]

Baseball will have a negative impact by moving to new markets because municipalities don’t want to pay for new ballparks with taxpayer money. The initial glow of a team in a new market doesn’t last long if the team doesn’t win. A new ballpark and baseball district only goes so far.

[@savingyourselffromwallstre690]

All academic research shows public funding is a waste of taxpayers. Economic benefit never comes close to the cost.

[@petertalsness3238]

The Rays are foolish to remain in St. Pete at the Tropicana site. 🤦‍♂️

[@albertpeterson5585]

...why does the price of the stadiums sound like Jackie Mason is describing it?

[@nicksGLI]

These teams need to know their place in HISTORY.. it's not about maximizing money.

[@brodiebrazil]

to them, it is

[@klrd4070]

the history of pro sports has always been about making money and lots of it.

[@salvadorzaracoza1067]

Dude, what are you talking about? The cardinals will never leave stl. They have one of the highest attendance. They also just built a whole village next to the stadium . Just because they had a couple rough years. Busch stadium is only 18 years old and they never made a public request for this it was just wrote about.

[@chriszenko3598]

Tropicana field location is one reason attendance is low to build a new stadium near the same site is not smart

[@James_Ford4815]

Yup makes absolutely no sense. They would have to put in a few rollercoasters to get more fans to make the drive across the bridge. A few restaurants and a park and shopping isn't going to sway people to make that drive. The owner is just being dumb and cheap , would rather risk it at the same spot instead of spending and moving to where all the people are in actual Tampa Bay.

[@richardlittle1663]

The Rays should relocate to Orlando, Florida and become the Orlando Rays they would still be in the state of Florida but they would be near Walt Disney World park

[@shawnokeefe1580]

Hell will literally freeze over before the St Louis Cardinals move out of StLouis

[@BrandanTheBroker]

So the question with KC Royals and Chiefs, if they jump from Missouri to Kansas, does that trigger relocation? Going from the boonies to downtown is one thing, but jumping from one side of a border to another seems like it'll trigger some kind of clause.

[@JoeErhart]

I don't think so... NY Jets and Giants play in New Jersey now and I'm pretty sure that didn't trigger relocation