Broke Supply Chain: I Can't Fix Cars When I Can't Get Parts?!?

[@kevinbarry71]

Stelantis is basically a private equity firm. Which means they are interested only in short term profits. They don't care about selling parts because they would much rather you buy a brand new car. And they also don't care what you think

[@chrishensley6745]

That is key that most do not even know.

[@raymondchandler697]

💯Agree

[@unaffiliated_x9279]

Then they will go bankrupt

[@Goatcha_M]

Agreed, and it applies to the others as well, typical corporate short term thinking. We don't care about the company having a future 10 years from now, how can we maximise profits today? Kill the used car market to increase sales? Yay! What about the people who trade in to buy new cars? Don't be silly, poor people don't exist.

[@PinkyRacing]

My Alfa, is not verry common, but 2015 and driving +500 only in Netherlands. in covid period we have been waiting for a drive shaft for 5 months, but problems mensiond in this video are from other kind. I my profession i`m parts guy, and notice that some big supplieers have other focus last time. I dont have any proof, but i think global conflicts making production / parts company`s prioritize different. I think with time, these capicity problems will solve. Stellantis, has made it a focus, to restock also old parts, like 156 GTA, 147 GTA. It is a Herritage formula, and, if they want to sell new alfa`s to me, they will have to keep the parts goinig for my Giulietta Qv, because this car is`t leaving my garage next 20 years.

[@rrsd700]

These companies want you to buy a new car every five years!

[@volvo09]

Yep. The parts that are available are likely limited to warranty use only.

[@WhittyPics]

It isn't just car companies. All these big companies are making throw away products. I haven't been getting more than 4 years out of a refrigerator the in the last 10 years. Buy and throw away. It does nothing but make the CEOs at the top even richer.

[@williamvandeventer485]

Exactly be in debt for life

[@99gagtx]

I agree 100%. This includes not supporting any of the technology inside the car after the warranty period is over. The cars become technologically totalled due to lack of support.

[@ArakakiDojoMatsubayashiS-km5uc]

You mean lease...

[@Dynomite-performance]

Was great chatting with you Wizard !!I We truly appreciate your time and sharing this information with everyone so they know what we are all having to deal with on these parts shortages , even still well past 2020. Appreciative ya and was wonderful talking to you sir ! Have a great 2025 !

[@richardbeckmann6720]

Do you have a youtube channel?

[@Dynomite-performance]

@ we do here. I’m not as well known or as entertaining as the Wizard but we share some stuff on the channel

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

You are absolutely correct when you said they dont want you to fix stuff. They would rather you buy their "new hotness", rather than fix your couple year old car. Same with the TCM and ECU locking. They want you to have to scrap it. Luckily people like Haltec and Motec have us covered. Its just a pain having to switch all that over, For something that by all rights should be a "factory OEM+ upgrade" I grew up under my grandfather in the garage, Chevy 350 small blocks for everything. I leaned more into the foreign car world, but i can see the appeal now of the near wiring less engines of the later 70's early 80's. Especially when those companies actively try and put you out of business. Meanwhile.. you want a Honda, Nissan, Subaru, ect ect chassis, stripped down ready for a Race build... they got you covered. Good luck getting anything of that nature from our American manufacturing "friends"...

[@maxoklock4805]

Mopar & GM in about the last 10 yrs have been really bad about backordered parts and just discontinuing things that are still not that old

[@Dynomite-performance]

@ I can program anything Chrysler related here myself. It’s just a shame that the dealer can’t do it on a used module for a customer who needs their car repaired. Now the government is involved In the aftermarket sector on programming modules so it’s just become a nightmare unless you have the ability that I have to make it happen.

[@pops55650]

You nailed it with the Stellantis CEO. He only cared about a quick fix for the shareholders, but tanked the companies reputation in the process, then quit with a ton of money like a thief in the night. Also, I think Dodge’s ev push probably made them figure they didn’t need to support old ICE tech anymore. But I won’t buy new vehicles from a company that doesn’t support their old vehicles

[@Skylancer727]

That's a rather ignorant take for Dodge. When they announced the EV model, they did so while also announcing a whole new line of standard combustion models. How is them adding a new link in the chain abandoning their ways? I will agree though you shouldn't support brands who don't support their older cars. Software related hardware locks are one of the scummiest practices in any industry and it sucks to see many brands are getting away with it. I get with iPhones that many just upgrade the whole phone, but your car is one of your biggest expenses and a Hellcat is likely the next from your car in your life.

[@higgs923]

Retired machinist. Anything can be recreated if you have the blueprints. 3D printing makes even more parts possible. The issue is that setting up and producing just a handful of parts is usually prohibitively expensive. You can get those Ferrari 599 parts because Ferrari owners are willing to pay the the prices that result from limited production runs.

[@joshuawelch2904]

True with modern CNC and additive manufacturing techniques if you have the CAD files you can make the part. Now will it be cheap no way but it should be an option for enthusiasts. Granted depending on the part you maybe paying more than the vehicle is worth. I remember on an old farm tractor a cast iron arm snapped. Our fix because the parts diagrams didn't exist anymore was to JB wield it back together, make a mold and then recast the part. Was it cheap, no but that 50 year old tractor is still running and laughing at modern John Deere tractors that break down and can't be repaired anymore.

[@VerdoVeri]

There may be another reason namely EU law force companies to keep all the parts 10 years after last model was sold

[@g412bb]

One word of advise. Stay away from cars made under the Stellantis umbrella. They are not interested in having long-term support for cars and thus don't care about the spare parts market. To make matters worse their new cars have known issues all over the place.

[@clydesuckfinger8068]

I personally think “the powers that be” want us serfs to “own nothing and be happy about it”.

[@luviskol]

Fiat back in the 70's and 80's was notorious back then for this stuff. Getting dealer spares was Russian roulette. On the plus side the cars rotted out so quickly that this wasn't always the problem you'd think

[@patk8417]

And then there is the 'right to repair' issue! I'm sure you don't want to get going on that, or do you? That stupid thing where you can fix everything, replace parts and you can only get it to go by taking it back to the dealer :( and you wind up paying them more for their service than you ever thought of making on the repair!

[@ianyeh75]

If this is true, I’m laughing at all the dummies who bought up those Hellcats, Scatpacks, 392s. Have fun keeping those shitboxes running forever, if you haven’t wrapped it around a tree by now.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

​@@patk8417The deliberate withholding of repair info like part numbers, and needlessly making common repairs require an expensive programming tool is really irritating.

[@tg_ny]

I will give you the answer. Private equity firms. Once they become majority shareholders of a company, they force the company to do stupid things to generate great short-term profits for the investors. The company ends up getting a bad reputation, the workers lose their jobs and the customers get screwed. Americans have not caught on to this tactic, perhaps because their 401Ks haven’t started to nosedive yet. It’s sad because most of the companies they are screwing with took a lot of labor of several generations of workers to build them into what they became. How this is going to affect the automobile industry: they will make cars disposable by reducing the costs associated with the manufacturing of parts and maintaining inventory of them. Forcing people to replace their cars more often. This will force consumers to purchased older used cars so they can get the replacement parts. More factories and dealerships will go idle, the investors will sell off that real estate to extend the short-term profit they take.

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

Yep 👍 this is true of the old name performance parts compnei too 😢 Edelbrock...Holley...MSD etc. all now owned by private equity firms

[@billybongthorton420]

fcking MBAs man....the rats of the world.

[@kingjbone1]

Then that real estate gets used a write-off and then its sold to private equity for "redevelopment" and gets property tax breaks that us (the same public getting screwed by the automakers) get screwed again. All in the the of Private Equity. The same is happening to housing. Private equity eats everything. Welcome to Oligarchy.

[@MarkoVukovic0]

By dominating world trade in raw materials with the USD, labor and manufacturing costs are just too high to be profitable. So now, you have to outsource that to countries like China and Vietnam, and to some extent, Mexico. Just wait until Trump's tariffs hit. US companies are already desperately trying to stockpile raw materials in anticipation.

[@jeepinintexas6215]

Guess who the top share holders are? I would guess Black Rock, State Street and Vanguard...

[@timkis64]

uncle tonys garage predicted this with the dodges many months ago.once the factory support is gone, you will have an expensive doorstop.

[@setha360]

Tony said to buy parts now and store, winter is coming=depression

[@throttlewatch4614]

UTG just did a video on this video lol

[@engineerisengihere44]

It isn't just dodge. Literally every single automotive manufacturer is doing the same thing. F brand loyalty. These days it is all the same garbage, any parts you can find are chinese crap. A PERFECT example, and I am shocked car wizard didn't mention it, is the Ford Taurus. America's best selling car for almost the entirety of the 90s, parts should be everywhere. The engines used in them continued to be used until around 2011. Parts should be everywhere. That isn't the case. Parts are either impossible to find, OR chinese garbage that fails in 2 months. There is something big going on behind the scenes, I wish I could tell you what it is but I don't know. It isn't just cars either, as others have mentioned basic home appliances like refrigerators are suffering the same fate. I don't want to break out the tinfoil hat but what other choice do I have?

[@rfjohns1]

Everyone needs a cad/cam capability along with a CNC machine and a 3D printer.

[@petrosaguilar8916]

​@@engineerisengihere44I have no issue getting VW/Audi parts

[@lordcorgi6481]

Car companies have been trying for decades to make it illegal to work on your own vehicle. They've now figured if they don't have the parts you can't. It also doesn't help that car manufacturers are losing billions on EVs.

[@carlosb1]

this is another strategy to get rid of gas vehicles just watch.

[@engineerisengihere44]

@carlosb1 it started with cash 4 clunkers, that was the start of the conspiracy. That basically allowed manufacturers to get to this point. Get all the reliable old vehicles (and parts) off the road, you force people to buy new stuff. Don't make parts for the new stuff and boom. Current situation.

[@tonyn3227]

They aren't loosing any money making evs stop believing lies , you naive dummy

[@TheDigitalDR.]

@@engineerisengihere44I say it’s time we start making our own parts.

[@jwalster9412]

As a car guy, If they make working on your own vehicles illegal, I might as well just open my own shop and make myself the only customer.

[@Karrpilot]

Not only are parts harder to find, it's harder to find GOOD parts. Parts that will last. Parts that are on par with the OEM original units. The original water pump i had on my Pontiac had 167K on it. The replacement didn't last 40K. The replacement crankshaft sensor died 20K later, and left me stranded 2 miles from home. I don't mind fixing my car. What I do mind is having to do the same repair all over again due to inferior parts. And no, I'm not a price shopper. I try to buy the best and or oem whenever possible.

[@sonictech1000]

Agreed, for a lot of things I'd almost rather have a used/junkyard part rather than "new". I'm starting to think that it might make sense to rebuild/repair the OEM parts even though I really don't have time for that.

[@joakimsoderberg8046]

I hear you. I have repaired my trans am gta 88. Aftermarket parts are mostly of very bad material and fit poorly. Why going trough the hassle to make new parts if they are so badly made

[@ChrisWhalenCPA]

It's hard for all of us as we mature and age, to see the dreams of what our world used to be disintegrate right in front of our eyes.

[@epytaffskitchenstink]

You got that right! Bought my first car in 1971 for $40 a slant 6 Valient push button automatic fixed everything myself on it when needed. $26 for a rebuilt alternator back then. Those days are gone, to bad.

[@shelzmike]

Jeez, between the doom and gloom of Wizards video and this comment ..Happy New Year, I guess?

[@northdakotaham1752]

Yep...been watching that decline since the 1960s.

[@johnnnoise]

"The good old days" is just a myth. always was/

[@northdakotaham1752]

​@@johnnnoisein "the good old days" 1960s....you could buy parts for five year old cars. I have 60s vintage vehicles that I can still get parts for them. It all went south in the 80s.

[@tjroelsma]

In the UK they have all kinds of specialists who make or repair those unobtanium parts. They're mostly one-man shops, often working out of their garage or shed behind the house. Maybe something like that could take off in the US as well?

[@nevco8774]

In the UK that is a 120 years tradition. In the USA first most brands vanished in 1930ties with great depression. Then the Big 3 started to gobble business in 1950ties. Parts are still available for those cars. Then with number of imports growing the availability of parts went worse but still tolerable. After Covid19 every part stock dried up.

[@AmandaHugenkiss2915]

Those with knowledge will be able to make some things but if there is a massive shortage they won't be able to make up the difference

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

Yes. We need more of these specialized outfits here. This is only tangential, but I have two old garden tractors that are 40+ years old. Some parts are very difficult to find, but they are often simple things like springs. I thought about starting a side hustle just researching and finding equivalent parts and then selling them at a reasonable price. Cars are a more complex product with more fabrication and skill being required to source or make parts, but there have to be situations where a different part can be easily adapted with little or no modification. That would be a potentially viable business model.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

​@@AmandaHugenkiss2915True, it's not a solution at scale, but for enthusiasts or just the especially determined frugal people trying to keep things running, these small outfits are a godsend.

[@evoman44]

Good point. I happen to find a person in the UK that makes reproduction quarter panel patch panels for my 90's Acura Integra.

[@anthonymiller3970]

Car companies don’t want you to fix it. They want you to buy a new vehicle that’s way overpriced they have sitting on lots across America

[@Knightmare22]

It’s absolutely disgusting… especially when the quality and reliability of most cars today are just bull crap, and it’s not even worth “upgrading” to a newer car. But they don’t care, do they? Heck, no! They just want to see another digit added to their revenue at our expense

[@scott8919]

We can't expect companies to make parts for a car forever either. At some point the market just isn't there and it's a waste of money to continue pushing them out.

[@davidbiagini9048]

@@Knightmare22 All companies regardless of industry are screwing the consumer, and we have no one looking out for our interests. We might as well be in Cuba.

[@jacobeparsels9251]

​​@@ChrisPatrick-q6k I bet you believe everything the government tells you too. It's not a conspiracy theory it's known fact amongst anyone that knows anything about how cars and how their companies work. Same reason they don't just sell a cure for cancer they would lose money on all the medication

[@anthonymiller3970]

@@scott8919 but a hellcat is just a couple years old. I can see a 59 Cadillac parts are no longer made but not newer cars.

[@DalyDriverTV]

As a former parts industry guy with a business/marketing background none of this surprises me. I drive a jeep xj and an e36. They made about 3 million of each I should be able to get parts forever. Key in this equation is Polk data VIO or vehicles in operation. This tells you the market size when developing a part. As far as classic cars sure esoteric stuff is fun but if you want easy and cheap, stick with super mainstream stuff like Corvettes, tri 5 Chevy, flat fender jeeps, mustangs, remember the population was smaller mid 20th century too. It helps to choose common drive trains too, my xj has the 4.0 not the crazy diesel or the v6.

[@billh230]

Agreed. I make wire harnesses for a tiny subset of a small import market (Citroën DS). Now is probably my time to expand out.

[@GForceVRX]

@@billh230you definitely should mate seriously

[@TheQuestionableGarage]

It is absolutely insane how much harder getting anything is. And half the time what you get isn’t any good anyway.

[@patrickthomas8736]

Yep Chinese crap. Buy 4 to get a good one of anything especially electronics.

[@MrSupro]

The future of the hobby is a shrunk down version of Jay Leno. Machine your own parts, adaptors, or modify similar parts you can actually get to keep them running. Basically go Cuba on everything. It will keep it going for people who can do their own work but shops will probably not be able to make it work economically. Other than that you will have a select few cars with repro parts ecosystem.

[@sw7366]

Certain commie states demand OEM, even when OEM is crap or unobtainium.

[@microchrist6122]

This isn’t a hobby though. This is a career for people

[@StanTheObserver-lo8rx]

Exactly what i was thinking. Besides Wizard is a machinist.

[@Sam-go3mb]

I think it will be more common to gut a modern chassis and retrofit the entire drivetrain from pre-2010 or so vehicles. There's no way there will be enough demand for 99% of modern cars in the future, for someone to go to the insane effort of making aftermarket anything on a canbus network or even headgaskets. Modern cars are ridiculously complicated and have such tight tolerances.

[@Sam-go3mb]

Or maybe just find a way to run a modern engine on an older or more simple ecu.

[@geraldshoemaker2345]

I worked in engineering and product support for a Wichita based general aviation manufacturer. We made it thru periods of slow airplane sales by selling spares to the fleet we had already built and sold. Then we got a new CEO in the early 2000s. The new CEO didn't want to be bothered by stocking spares for old airplanes. He only wanted to build and sell new planes. This led to a crisis on the next sales new a/c sales dip but he never got it. I think you may be seeing a similar situation in the auto industry.

[@Hamsalad2]

I work at a flight school, we use older 172’s. Most of the parts that we need we have to get used.

[@dronepilotflyby9481]

Rans?

[@GhostZodick]

​@@Hamsalad2Even for certified planes? That is insane! I thought those popular certified planes will be guaranteed to have parts available forever. Those certified parts are so expensive, someone must be making a fortune selling them.

[@geraldshoemaker2345]

@dronepilotflyby9481 No. Good guess, but Wichita, not Hayes. I had a 32 year career with the one that starts with "C".

[@youdontknowme5969]

I know who 😏

[@diegolarrache]

Dear Wizard, I live in Argentina and the Renault Fuego was manufactured here until 1993 and I can assure you that the rear window is not available, there is nothing else, so take care of it like a newborn. May everyone have a great year.

[@mlann2333]

I work in a tier 2 electronics supplier for automotive. We're expected to supply electronic parts for 15yrs as part of the manufacture contract. This means that an OEM can request a new run of PCBs for any product that they ran through our lines for up to 15yrs from start of production. As you can imagine working with many OEMs over many models the store rooms are filled with relics from years back. With electronics in particular the components may not be sourced to complete a build as they're gone obsolete before the 15yrs is up. Automotive electronics generally use older micros and so are well into their product lifecycle already.

[@volvotron]

I’m fortunate, as many others are too, to own a 1968 Volvo 1800S and earlier Volvo models because the part’s availability is plentiful. Engine, body, electrical parts, etc., is readily available. Thanks to VP AutoParts and other vintage Volvo specialty shops. VP is constantly filling the needs of its customers by having many scarce parts remade by their suppliers.

[@guitarmangdlz]

Any time I need a part for my 30 year old Land Cruiser I head down to the Toyota dealership and order it in and on occasion they’ll have it in stock right then. I’ve never not been able to get a part for my car. Toyota even reached out to us a year back on the off-roading forums to ask us what parts they could bring back that were NLA (there’s not many) and some are back in production now.

[@trahar6257]

There’s a lot of great cars from the 90’s to early 2000’s that will last forever but only if you make sure to choose models with a big following. Land Cruisers, tacomas, civics, Miatas, corvettes or basically any full-size truck, you won’t have any trouble finding parts.

[@volvo09]

Wow, that's quite impressive... Never heard of a manufacturer doing that.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

The cool thing about the bread and butter Toyota models is that they have had a lot of parts in common that have been manufactured for decades. That's especially true on the Land Cruiser models and older trucks. American companies used to do this a lot more often, in my subjective opinion. Maybe they still do, but it seems like it's in decline, same with Toyota, in fairness.

[@MrDuncl]

@@trahar6257 I was checking U.K. numbers and there are 20 Renault Fuegos left compared with 6000 Jaguar E Types, Guess which will be easier to get parts for even if they are reproductions.

[@Drofthechalice]

​@@Dwigt_Rortugaland many newer model parts can be fit to older models with minor changes. TBUs, diffs, axles, suspension etc and motors 22R & 3.0 swap to 3.4l. Or 3.4l to 2JZ.

[@inkydoug]

This is why my daily driver is an '03 Jeep Wrangler. I am dreading replacing it with a car I can't fix myself AND has dozens of features I don't want.

[@matth5309]

I have an ‘02 Ram 1500…keeping it until the cab rusts off the frame.

[@MrNicks-gn8jc]

'07 Honda Accord...ain't touching that new turbo 1.5 !!

[@potatochobit]

Wrangler not very reliable especially the six cylinder. I have not seen an old Cherokee in years.

[@inkydoug]

@@potatochobit The 4.0 liter in my TJ has worked flawlessly with just standard maintenance for 240,000 miles for 23 years daily use. The body isn't going to last much longer tho.

[@MattExzy]

I drive a mid-2000s car too. The clock may be ticking on us as well, but still, it's a nice meaty spot for a vintage of car. Old and still common enough to have lots of parts available, either new or wrecker yard, not so new like modern cars that there's a huge part shortage. And requiring even more unobtanium electronics.

[@mikeray1544]

Im a former dealer tech from the 90' s ....im still driving my 40 yr old RamCharger for a reason....it was great to see you save that old RamCarger you showed in your shop...way cool.

[@chrishensley6745]

Same here...just old chevys

[@dyer2cycle]

I have got both Dodge and Chevy trucks from that time period..I love them both, but I can tell you, the Chevys are WAYYY easier to get parts for..both new and used...examples:..try finding a fuel tank for a late 80's-early 90's Dodge truck..they were plastic and they pretty much all cracked with age...finding a used one is very difficult, especially a good non-cracked used one, and if you do they are pricey...no new ones available except for one made by Holley, and made only for their sniper fuel injection..no thanks, I need an OEM style one...plenty of used ones for the Chevy, plus new aftermarket metal ones are readily available..likewise, try to find a good used grill for a mid-80's-early 90's Dodge...especially the 91-93 models..and vent wings(door vent windows) are hard to find and expensive if you do...all the used parts, like beds, doors, tailgates, etc. are MUCH easier to find(and cheaper) for the Chevy than the Dodge..true for most mechanical parts as well. I suspect a lot of this due to the huge differences in the numbers of Chevy and GMC trucks produced during this period compared to the Dodges....

[@scotty3478]

Uncle Tony's Garage gave you a great shout out and told people to come watch this video.

[@bobbybieln853]

My 2018 f150 ,2.7 had parts availability issues in. 2019. Uncle Tony nailed with his analogy on the hellcat and it basically became obsolete as soon as the factory workers signed the last car on the assembly line. The dealers are sitting on these cars, and they can even repair them.

[@kerrylewis2581]

I grew up driving lower-cost used cars from the sixties, seventies, and eighties. Parts, both new and used, were at your fingertips, and you only needed minimal tools to repair them.

[@johnkolb6717]

The car that taught me to turn wrenches was a '70 VW station wagon. Only issue was the Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection. All the dealers knew how to do was fire the parts cannon at that.

[@Turd_Furgeson]

Stelantis parts are unavailable because they are cutting inventory to save money.

[@johngaither9263]

When I sold Chrysler parts years ago anything over 10 years old was out of the question and even 5 year old things were iffy. It's much worse now.

[@recoilrob324]

And there are LOTS of Hellcat motors that need fixing at dealerships under warranty and if they can't get parts....guess who doesn't have to pay for the warranty repair? Anyone buying anything from Stellantis at the moment is playing Russian Roulette with long term parts availability. While we're talking about this....I'm not a real fan of Mercedes being they are over priced and over complicated, but any Mercedes part for any car of any year can be bought from them as they'll make a new one for you. Of course...this will cost a mint but if you have an expensive car sitting because it need a critical part that you can't get elsewhere....being able to buy them is a really nice thing.

[@taunus1990]

That interesting. I went to an Opel dealer a week ago (Opel is under Stellantis group to) and a simple switch was totally not available for a 10 year old Opel Combo. I found a used one at a breaker, but it surprised me that the dealer could not order it.

[@B0xlife1]

@@Turd_Furgeson they're cutting inventory and making parts unattainable because everybody wants to repair and fix their car if there's no parts available nobody wants to buy a used vehicle because they're afraid they're going to have to go through the whole thing all over again so these companies are doing this on purpose in order to sell a new vehicles

[@jsun3117]

I bet older pre Fiat/Stellantis Jeep, Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge parts might still be vastly available from aftermarket.

[@benjaminl.dallaire9890]

Hey Wizard, Glad to see this video. Not being able to get parts for my car has been an issue for me as well. I have a 2011 Cadillac CTS wagon and to date I haven’t had major mechanical issues (knock on wood…). Last summer the parking brake peddle mechanism broke and was told that the replacement part was no longer available. I no longer park my car on hills The sunroof drain gutters on my car started to Leak, same issue, the dealership Gerry-rigged a repair, but who knows how long it will last? This year the steering rack started to leak steering fluid. One of the cross over pipes had corroded and was leaking. GM doesn’t make these parts anymore. Went on-line to research compatibles but could not find any. My mechanic was able to cut out the leaking bit and replace it using compression joints. It’s working for now but he was unable to say how long this would last. Found a website with these parts that were ´´compatible to my car’´ but turned out not to be. I’m wondering if GM changes part numbers so you are obliged to throw in the towel and buy a new car. I cannot fathom that they would change the design of something so basic as a steering rack from one year to the next to make the replacement parts so unique. It makes no economic sense - as I’m sure you are aware that they need to make cars as economically as possible. What gives? I want to keep this car as long as possible, I love it. Having said that, the lack of support from the manufacturer will not make me a reliable customer. For my next car, I will research manufacturers who will guarantee more than a 10 year supply of replacement parts. FYI: in the 90’s I owned a 1976 Triumph TR6. Had no problem getting any part I needed, body part or interior parts, upholstery, you name it. Not from British Leland but from a company called Moss Motors (I hope they still exist). They had parts for Triumph, MG, Austin, Morris. Some OEM but most after market. Good quality at a reasonable price. What is happening in the car market today is depressing. At manufacturers want client loyalty but seem to be doing everything to ensure clients will stay away. Not just Stela it’s, but all of them. They’ve lost touch. Their share holders are not happy. Too bad. Their greed has led the industry to a crisis point. I’ve said enough.

[@sotosdjiovanis1282]

Wizard, I've owned a series of Honda Preludes. They were low production number models and parts availability has been a problem on them forever, even before they were super old. But, mostly I want to say what a great community you've got here. So many comments sections related to cars can just be crap and low-level jabs between people. The people commenting on your channel have got great, intelligent, and useful comments. Thanks.

[@sf-dn8rh]

Parts for accords, civics, and ridge lines, are becoming a pain to get since March 2020. All years, even new ones, got a recall and still not been able to get it fixed

[@GetOffMyyLawn]

Auto manufacturers should be required to release parts schematics, software and full documentation for every car they can no longer support... right to repair!

[@johnkowalkowski4269]

For American cars, the 1985 tax law changes that allowed manufacturers to off shore without penalty was the beginning. There used to be many US based after market companies that manufactured the maintenance parts for everything. Warehouses were packed to the rafters and units were replaced as soon as the previous one left. Plants went off shore for the cheaper wages and costs, the warehouses emptied and didn't restock......All gone....CEOs and shareholders got richer though.

[@davids.9834]

CEOs and shareholders got rich off shoring everything and now they want to get rich by imposing tariffs to bring it all back. You literally cant make this shit up.

[@georgebettiol8338]

Agree. However, if I was to pin point a time when the 'off-shoring began' - it would be with the CEO (Jack Welch, aka Neutron Jack) of General Electric in 1981. Jack fired circa 100,000 employees in circa 4 years all in the name of short term profits and moved the company's focus to providing finance. Jack began the journey of converting the most valuable company on Earth to a company of irrelevance to the American economy by the late 2010s - which is very sad.

[@richardbeckmann6720]

I work for The FEL PRO Distribution center. we wholesale sell Raw gasket material that anyone could cut. Into the shape of any gas get they want to replace . So gaskets can be custom made.

[@Dave-in-MD]

Not head gaskets.

[@volvo09]

Many of us have custom cut a gasket, but you can't make your own multi layer steel head gasket....

[@MrDuncl]

Sounds like someone should invest in a CNC / Laser cutter.

[@joecummings1260]

@@volvo09 There are companies that will make custom manufactured head gaskets, No idea of the cost. Lots of jigs and special tools involved, not to mention skill. There is a vid on the Pakistani Truck channel. The guy makes head gaskets by hand in a booth at a place that looks like a flea market for truck parts

[@joecummings1260]

@@volvo09 "Handmade|Making of 4 Cylinder Engine Head Gasket for Industrial Generator|Start to Finish"

[@eriksalas5422]

It was so frustrating when I took my jeep in to replace the fuel injectors back in 2020. One of them went bad, but since they already had everything apart, I figured might as well replace them all so I wouldn't have to bring it back. Unfortunately, they were only able to get ahold of ONE. Just one. It was going to be weeks before they could get their hands of more. So I had to settle for replacing a single fuel injector. Of course, naturally, another one ended up going bad a couple of months later, and it was another $800 to replace it. Needless to say, I don't have that vehicle any more.

[@damirzanne]

I can’t believe you can’t get parts for a few years old Dodge , lol .. I have 2022 Dodge Challenger, and needed a new trunk shocks, went to the auto parts store , and picked up the last pair , guy at the desk said they can’t get any parts from Dodge , because dealers only have them … stay away from Stellantis brands … they also make almost impossible to use diagnostic tools , only dealers have software for it … I will never buy Stellantis product again …

[@7CharlesV]

Sorry, please enlighten me. What vehicles are under this Stellantis umbrella? IOW, what brands/models to avoid like the plague? Any info would be most welcome!

[@Skylancer727]

@@7CharlesV Just going straight off the wiki, I have no idea why you didn't just do that your self, these are all their brands. Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Ram Trucks, and Vauxhall.

[@Vynncent]

Impossible to use diagnostic tools? Sure, if you have anything with a secure gateway. Majority of stuff isn't too bad at least

[@LarryRussell-m2p]

We had a parts manufacturer in our area for a few years that manufactured headlight and taillight assemblies. Their seconds became replacement parts for dealerships. They shuttered their operation a few years ago and hopefully their molds are still around

[@twentyrothmans7308]

Thanks Mr Campbell, for your cameo. Growing up in Australia, I went for cars where the parts fell out of Corn Flakes packets every morning. As others have said, manufacturers want your car dead.

[@Dynomite-performance]

@@twentyrothmans7308 it was a pleasure to get to talk with the Wizard ! Wished we was closer to have a face to face conversation !

[@IsaacLoven]

No wounder my breakfast cereal tasted so bad.

[@FreudianSlipDK]

This is absolutely true. Have a 2009 Chrysler Aspen that I cannot get parts for. Have a 2011 Mustang GT Convertible that I cannot get parts for. Have a 2000 Porsche Boxster S that I can get parts for all day long. They just don't want to support cars past the warranty period anymore. The Ford dealer straight up told me that the new policy for Ford is only to keep parts available as long as they're legally required. It's indeed a sad time

[@1HotLegendLS]

As far as I know, they are required for 10 years

[@FreudianSlipDK]

@1HotLegendLS i thought that was the case as well. Apparently that is not, or no longer, the case. If I remember correctly the Ford dealership told me 7 years when I questioned why they couldn't get any parts after months of them trying. Some quick googling didn't give any final answer. I got anywhere from "no requirement at all" to "5-10 years" but no reference to any specific laws. Regardless mine are all over 10 years old so it wouldn't really make a difference. But it is more than a bit sad that it's just not feasible to keep older cars running unless you have access to a machine shop

[@firingallcylinders2949]

There's a huge business opportunity for companies that make aftermarket. As someone who only buys old cars I need these types of parts. The only thing that sucks is most of the time it's alot worse quality than OEM. There's a reason you look for OEM and it's 4 or 5x as much as the Amazon part.

[@FreudianSlipDK]

@firingallcylinders2949 i do not disagree. A moderately small company with the manufacturing skills could make a fortune producing unobtanium parts for older cars. The biggest problem I see would be having to either re-engineer everything from scratch or having to procure the rights to the parts. Same is gonna be the issue with anything electronic. There's not really anything standing in the way of someone creating a replacement part other than the rights needed

[@firingallcylinders2949]

@@FreudianSlipDK Yea car companies try to stop companies from doing this claiming IP rights

[@mattmartinolc]

It's definitely interesting. Where I work in Ontario, my office is basically neighbors with the Ford assembly plant in Oakville. And during covid, when the supply chain first got disrupted they were finishing vehicles as far as they could with whatever parts they did have, then putting them over in what's now being called the "rot lot" because they decided it's too much of a nightmare to sort through them all and get the parts to completely finish them. I wonder what happened to all those parts...

[@cm-ek4ci]

eBay 😅

[@mewtwo255200]

I feel your pain, I have worked at a parts counter for a dealership (won’t say which one) since 2017. Let me tell you, since 2021 it has been very frustrating to get parts for cars that are even less than a year old. Backorder this backorder that. We alone at one point had dead cars lined up in our parking lot waiting for backordered parts because of a common part failure that rendered them inoperable. Customers (bless them they don’t know how it works) were threatening us and giving us bad reviews over this. Don’t blame the dealerships for this. They have no control of the manufacturing of parts.

[@nadeem4177]

As a person who grew up between the US and Egypt. I can confidently tell you that the peugeot 505 was being used as a taxi for so long up until the late 2000s, and still some are on the road today. Parts can be found in Egypt or even custom made. You just need to know someone there.

[@ExploreWyoming]

I can still buy an OEM clutch for a 1996 Toyota T100. Toyota does a great job at keeping up with OEM parts

[@danielguzman9061]

If You plan is continue to use old Toyota or any old car is start your own stock of regular and rare parts. Many times small ítems are the most difficult.

[@ozarkliving7263]

I agree

[@Igglybiggly51]

Mechanical parts yes,but trim parts,moldings, interior parts,seat belts are becoming unobtainable

[@danielguzman9061]

@Igglybiggly51 exactly. And let's be honest: models like Toyota T1000 are future collectibles or at least appreciated today. and those interior elements or headlights or decorative elements are easily storable pieces, probably in a junkyard they are worthless or left lying around but for a restoration they can be valuable. If I remember correctly, last year Honda once again had window rubbers and other wear and tear items available for the 90's Civics.

[@Sam-go3mb]

And they're bringing back some parts for heritage vehicles like the AE86 and 3rd gen Supra maybe? Can't remember. That said I'm pretty sure every single part related to a Toyota carburetor is out of production permanently.

[@Amanda-ej7pl]

You got to remember too A lot of the older mechanics are passing on their stuff is getting thrown away. Also when you get these rare parts and it's the only one you could find 3D scan it please I'm young we can make more of these parts if we know what they were to begin with.

[@bernardk3437]

I think it's mostly due to just in time manufacturing and nobody wants to actually hold any inventory any longer

[@ludosys4903]

Nail on the head, “modern” supply chain management has not only reached but is now far beyond their limits up to the point of becoming ridiculous. Inventory = capital cost, so it is pushed around like a hot potatoe. And the customer who did pay quite some money for a car, they frankly don’t give a sh.t. Urgent time to put cars in different car age envelopes when it comes to spare parts. That the thermostat of a 1938 Rolls isn’t readily available, everybody will accept. Not not some parts of a recent mass produced car as a Fiat 500.

[@jacekjagosz]

Wasn't Toyota on the forefront of that type of manufacturing, and you can get parts for those? So that might be a reason, but it would certainly be possible to have parts available if someone cared enough

[@amarsta]

​@@jacekjagosz you're right, this is described in the book The Toyota Way. The purpose of JIT however, was to catch defects immediately during assembly and prevent thousands of defective parts from piling up or making their way into customers' vehicles. Other companies that implemented JIT had different goals, like increasing ROI, that didn't care if shelves were empty, because customer satisfaction was not the primary concern.

[@Think1st-m9r]

Aren’t businesses taxed on property? A bunch of idle parts are costing them money in the form of inventory. Gov should be doing something to encourage them not penalized.

[@billh230]

​@@Think1st-m9r I know here in California businesses are taxed in that manner. That's why many businesses here have big pre-tax sales, and it's also why so many businesses have no inventory to speak of.

[@michaelmounts1269]

great video! true story…I have a 2016 prius that had a misfire…one coil pak was really weak and another questionable. I try to use oem…but went to dealer and there was only one coil pak in the entire state! problem was dealer wouldn’t sell it to me! i used parts interchange numbers to find some Denso equivalents…crazy…and this is for a very common mainstream car. same story for model specific injectors…even rock auto only had rebuilds in stock. crazy

[@Dave_C.]

3-D Printing is the future for most hard to get mechanical items. Jay Leno uses this alot for impossible to get parts and sings their praises on the quality that they provide -- sometimes much better made than the original part.

Try 3D printing a crankshaft or a piston.

[@cm-ek4ci]

They do that now just watched a KZbin video on metal printing, company out of Canada

[@joshuawelch2904]

You can use a CNC machine to mill those parts if you have the diagram and specs. You can even use the old part to make the diagrams, you may be doing a lot of post processing if you bulked the part up in spots to account for wear. It is not a quick process, I have done it before and it is machining similar to the old days. You just use a computer programed device at the start then finish with hand sanding and filing.

[@VioletTorch]

I work in facilities maintenance and we are having the same issues trying to get replacement lamps, light fixtures, automatic sink faucets, etc.

[@yuglesstube]

I feel your pain. The new leds do not share common form factors or fixing points. Worse, the designs change all the time.

[@midnitemonty]

got to dust off the welding, soldering & 3D printing skills out... Erik O just had a good video of repairing a power steering pump internal bearing.. most guys would throw them out and wait for the part.

[@99gagtx]

I've seen on Jay Leno's channel, where he's said his shop has to make a lot of the parts for his older/rarest cars. It's great when you can afford to do that. But for most of us, we have to do what ever we have to. To get the car going again.

[@SteveMarolda]

Every problem is an opportunity... Start making parts!

[@mitchhedberg4415]

Yeah, spend tens of thousands to sell 1 every 10 years

[@waterloo123100]

@@mitchhedberg4415if you got off the computer you could be getting some parts installed

[@GrumpyIan]

​@@mitchhedberg4415 the term you're looking for is "made to order".

[@georgewarthen3925]

Great subject wizard! I'm going to be doing a video soon about the horrible things i had to go through to first get my engine replaced under warranty, then getting my transmission replaced under warranty by stellantis. 5.5 months for an engine, 7 months for a transmission! Ridiculous!

[@fredanddebramacdonald2445]

I have a 2017 Chevy Impala Premier with the famous 3.6 that you always mention. No, I don’t need timing chains, at least not yet. But mice got into the car and chewed up the drainage tubes for the sunroof. It took a couple of weeks to find replacement drainage tubes! I really didn’t want a sunroof but the car had all the other options I wanted and only had 14,000 miles on it, so I bought it. I found out about the timing chain issue after owning it for about 3 years. I have been doing oil changes every 3,000 to 4,000 miles hoping to keep those timing chain problems from occurring.

[@eddieredmann3]

Salem Techsperts was talking about his similar experiences with repairing cell phones, tablets, and computers recently. The big conglomerates of the tech and auto industries don't want to sell replacement parts because if you can't repair it, you have to buy a new one.

Not from them though.

[@Renville80]

This was already a problem back in the '80s. My mom had a nice little '63 Ford Fairlane 500 that was her daily driver from after she graduated from college until we finally moved to a bigger town. The transmission went out and Dad called every garage and transmission shop in the metro area - nobody had the parts to fix the transmission. The next stop would have been to scour the area junkyards looking for an older Ford with the same transmission, and my parents threw in the towel and bought a '78 VW Dasher.

[@porcelainthunder2213]

Lots of parts were crappy from the factory and most cars sold need that part replaced, so the supply of spares runs out very quickly. That’s what happened with the Hemi. The same thing happened with Hyundai, and recently GM with turbos. All the electronic junk is patented or has proprietary software, or the chips aren’t made anymore, so that can’t be made in the aftermarket. Lots of scrapyards have disappeared. It’s getting to the point where shops are going to have to go the Jay Leno route and MAKE parts. The Ferraris have parts due the fan base and wealth of the owners. As for newer cars, manufacturers are supposed to keep a 15 year supply of parts. Mass complaints to the FTC should be made to force the parts to be available be fined.

[@QALibrary]

Then manufactures issues a DMCA type of thing for breaking their copyright or software

[@gu1l7y5p4rkfiles]

​@@QALibrary I bought a 16 Audi A6 supercharged.... Now I've gotta learn programming of a strange German proprietary coding language so I can get ANY used parts. Even the seats and mirrors and stuff are hard coded to the car.

[@noseboop4354]

They won't bother making parts if they get hit with a complaint from the FTC, they'll just pay the fine.

[@awesomusmaximus3766]

You should be given a new car under warranty if than happens at the manufacturer's cost

[@gingerboi8711]

As a 2015 500e owner I was surprised you didn't mention anything about the armrests (drivers side) the dealer only has one in stock and its in California and they apparently miss labeled it and its lost somewhere on the shelf! Loved watching your battery R&R series it was awesome

[@brianlassiter5302]

I’m a mechanic myself and agree with everything you’re saying. Parts availability is the worst I’ve ever seen. I will say, though regarding gaskets, if you have a set of gaskets for that particular automobile, you can purchase gasket material and cut your own and make multiple replicas if you need to. I’m sure you already know this.. Love your videos, keep up the good work.!!

[@clydesuckfinger8068]

We have a 2019 F350, not a low production vehicle by any stretch. A few months ago, we started having HVAC issues. While I was waiting for our appointment, I was researching parts, and most are available, however, the control panel isn’t, aftermarket or OEM. If I can find a junk yard that doesn’t crush vehicles as soon as they come in, there’s no guarantee the removed part is good.

[@caayydenn]

I struggle to find quality parts for my 1990 Oldsmobile 98 Regency sometimes, despite the fact that there were hundreds of thousands made. I've been burned a few times by the chinesium parts bin. Junkyard OEM parts have actually been the most reliable for me, not even kidding. There's probably more of those Oldsmobiles on the road still than a Fiat 500e.

They are good solid cars. Better than anything made today. I'm driving a 1997 Buick.

[@cmans79tr7]

Caay - back in the early 2000s my 1985 Cutlass needed a starter. I had to go to several parts stores to find one who had one in stock. I was shocked that GM had changed their starters so much in such a short time that they didn't have a replacement on the shelf. (I was also shocked that "youngsters" would stop and gawk at my car, impressed that it was so 'old'😛)

[@Maplecook]

I have two, 30+ year old cars...and a couple closets full of parts that I am afraid will go out of production. haha

[@gordonstarship]

salute to you. Sounds just like me. Upstate New York here

[@Maplecook]

@@gordonstarship Vancouver over here! I also sprayed the underside of my cars, with that anti-rust goop.

[@gordonstarship]

@@Maplecook That's a good idea. I live in salt country. You have to plan ahead if you want the underside to last.

[@joshuawelch2904]

I have a 27 year old kei truck, and every year as I hear certain parts aren't being produced I obtain them to future proof the truck. She don't go fast or accelerate quickly but she is one of the best utility trucks I have ever owned. So far have gotten lucky and only had to tow it once, and now that I know what caused it can unplug that solenoid if it happens again and get her home.

[@WWade-cm8hx]

It's basically all about volume. You'll be able to buy parts for a Crown Victoria or Ford F150 until the end of time. But the manufacturers usually only provide support for 10 years. After that, you're on your own.

[@replica4132]

As a dealer parts guy, I hesitate for a moment when I see the model year being anything newer than 2019, parts are unreal to get even for warranty purposes.

[@3rdworldgarage450]

I am restomodding my first car, a 1979 AMC Spirit. I am trying to keep it all AMC or at least all AMC driveline. I found clearance sales for parts on Rockauto of old stock gaskets, seals, bearings, etc. I bought all I could afford to put it away over the last year. Now they are drying up and I know I got lucky. Still, there are plenty of parts I don't have and can't find. I have enough to make it run and drive but not to finish making it a usable car. It is getting sad for those of us who love this hobby as private equity bought out all the suppliers and they stopped making the stuff.

[@declanfarber]

Sometimes it seems that when the auto manufacturers want to get rid of their parts inventory, they don’t landfill them, they unload them on rockauto. Lots of NOS curiosities there.

[@AdamVest]

Im calling it. It's a conspiracy by big auto to move those thousands and thousands of unsold junk heaps off of dealer lots. 👍🏻

[@TheBonsaiZone]

Resto-Mod might be the only way to keep the old ones going, replacing the drivetrain with more available parts. Many are converting to electric motors. As for spare parts, I thought it was mandatory to keep supplying spare parts for 15 years? I love Jay Leno's approach, make everything from scratch, but few people could ever afford to do that.

[@bigjohn6405]

Parts for older Mercedes seem to be still available, but they are not cheap, maybe because people have paid a premium for those parts for a long time, they are still being made. lots of mercedes have interchangable parts, like sbc chevy engines

[@Greg-io1ip]

BMW as well, and not cheap either. Since they have the molds and castings, they probably understand the profits in parts might be better margins than new cars even.

Not available from Mercedes. Mostly aftermarket. Most MB parts are no longer made in Germany anyway.

[@heavyobject4809]

Brings to light a huge problem! I have a 2001 sunfire. Pulley locked up and killed the belt. Was alot harder to find a belt then I would have ever guessed! Always enjoy your videos.

[@oldskool1979]

Car companies dont want old cars fixed so you buy a new POS

[@northdakotaham1752]

Yeah....like Cash For Clunkers scam. Get rid of the old one so you can be robbed when you buy a new one that won't last anywhere near as long as what you had.

[@potatochobit]

most new cars are reliable.

[@oldskool1979]

@ they are new I hope so 🤣🤣

[@firingallcylinders2949]

@@potatochobit They are to a point. All new cars for the most part are trouble free to 75-100k miles but then that's when most warranties are up. After that they're overengineered to the point where they're very difficult to work on. So yes new cars are great for several years and trouble free. 15-20 years later though these new cars are not holding up with how expensive repairs are and how much technology they have that can break. My dad has a 2007 Camry with 352k miles on it, he bought a new Camry and the guy at Toyota said this new Camry won't get 352k.

[@joshuawelch2904]

@@firingallcylinders2949 I have seen several videos recently where the backup camera having an issue shut down the CANBUS. Which is rediculous unplug it and CANBUS is back up leave it plugged in and no go, and you have to have the software to see that because to the end user the camera still works. I hate to say it but I am waiting for the massive hack that crashes all the new cars or bricks them for people to finally realize not everything needs a computer and needs to be connected to the internet or outside devices. The sad thing is Battle Star Galactica showed how this was a bad idea over 40 years ago, and the reboot showed it was even more less than 20 years ago.

[@markwagner4909]

I had a 1966 Corvair convertible dealerships wouldn’t help I finally found a person who used to work on these I had to source the parts from Clark’s to avoid a mark up. Since the car had been fully restored I had to stick with original equipment which Clark’s did carry. Corvair peeps are lucky

[@Bill-im6nt]

Had a 66 Corsa, loved that car. Still my favorite!

[@Sourman1545]

That the guy the Matt From matts off-road recovery toured and donated parts to? It sounds familiar.

[@11sfr]

Dealer parts counters haven't supported Corvairs since the 1980s, at the absolute latest, even in the 1960s, most of them didn't really want to and would have maybe one mechanic who was "the" Corvair guy in the service department and if you needed something fixed when he was on vacation, you were SOL. Fortunately, they are one of the absolute easiest '60s cars to find parts for now, Clark's is the biggest, but there's several other parts vendors that also stock decent inventory, and everything is pretty affordable. Its easier to get parts for a 60 year old Corvair than it is for 15 year old Crown Victoria at this point.

[@MyLifeThai371]

Matt's off-road recovery KZbin channel collects parts and sells them to other enthusiasts to keep these cars on the road. I used to see a lot of corvairs parts cars on the "bismanonline" website for dirt cheap.

[@stevenbear1610]

For anything new, it's not parts it's electronics. Imagine finding modules, let alone programming, in the future

[@kclefthanded427]

Just 1 bad module can make the car go crazy

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@kclefthanded427 On a KIA the rear camera when it goes wrong stuffs up the CANBUS so badly you can't even get comms with a scanner/programmer. If you have a crazy KIA...disconnect that rear camera first....

[@GrumpyIan]

Planned Obsolescence should be a felony offense.

[@MrChadder007]

They still make most of these cars….every single day. They crank out the parts for the new ones. It doesn’t make sense you can’t get replacement parts. 3d printing may actually be the future….

[@Mogul345]

That's my hope. 3d printing won't be cheap either, but hopefully in 20 years sintered metal 3d printers won't just be the domain of rocket engine manufacturing and we can use them to start making these parts that are long gone.

[@johnpeters9903]

Stick with projects that have a small block Chevy engine with a carb. Pay the extra and use a roller cam. So cheap and reliable.

[@safffff1000]

I refuse to drive a vehicle now a day that doesn't have airbags and a designed crush zone. I know of no car with a chevy carb that has that.

[@Sam-go3mb]

@@safffff1000 Hope you don't fly in any airplanes...

[@safffff1000]

@@Sam-go3mb I thought we were talking about cars?

[@petesmitt]

@@safffff1000 I assume you don't like motorcycles..

[@safffff1000]

@@petesmitt Rode some for a couple 100,000 miles then I got smart, usually dumber when young

[@andrewb8548]

You need the dedicated parts guy who can tell you a 1973 RT360 crank seals are basically the same as a 2008 YZ250. Same shaft same bore same set of tolerances.

[@patrickdtodd]

You should talk to Louis Rossmann about his efforts to promote right to repair.

[@organiccold]

That will be amazing

[@IndyCarFanatic]

Yes. This would be awesome!

[@firingallcylinders2949]

Lawmakers need to force these companies to no hoard their IP. It's crazy that these companies basically treat it that you're renting their car even when you buy it.

[@manidontcare5146]

If a manufacturer abandons support he must open source specs. With 3d metal printing that might be a way out of this mess.

[@THEH2OMAN]

Just last year I had no problem getting new OEM head gaskets, timing chain components and other brand new OEM replacement parts for my 18 year old 3UR-FE 5.7L Toyota motor, but I did find that some vacuum hoses for my 23 year old 2UZ-FE 4.7L motor have been discontinued. If you plan to keep a vehicle on the road for many years like I am doing, my advice is to buy quality vehicles that are known to last and stock up on OEM replacement parts now so you already have them on hand when you need them in the future.

[@joshuawelch2904]

The nice thing about vacuum hoses is if you don't care about the OEM look, as long as you know the inner diameter you can cut and make your own. My keitruck needed all of them replaced and they weren't made anymore so matched diameter and used a nicer high temp silicon and it runs like a top.

[@pocketPliers]

What blows my mind is the oddball parts dealerships have on the shelf. Weird stuff. Truth is, we're in 3D printer, PCM rebuilder/programer and machinist world. If you can do those things with accuracy and give a warranty, your the king of the cars right now.

[@ruk2023--]

You know in 25 years I reckon it will be really easy and accessible to get 3D printed parts for anything. I'm quite optimistic on that front.

[@GeraldMMonroe]

3d printers can't make motors, controllers, bearings... Maybe in 25 years robots hand build the part but it's not a 3d printer.

[@northdakotaham1752]

That's maybe going to work on simple components but there are alot of complex components that a 3D printer is not going to be making. Actually...they are the majority of the components.

[@safffff1000]

@@GeraldMMonroe I heard so much, lol, man will never fly attitude. Guarantee, most all parts will be easily made in the future if they aren't banned for enviromental reasons

[@CJRock-xn5qf]

Metallurgy has a long way to go. Better to make good friends with some machinists or start teaching yourself.

[@g00fysmiley]

​@GeraldMMonroe sintered metal parts are getting much better so I have faith we will have metal parts almost as good as forged eventually. Likewise we can 3d print with carbon fiber. Really I think the future will be some generic motors adapted with 3d printed parts to make things work as key components. Not ideal buy can keep classics on the road.

[@Insanity_Crow]

Its kind of funny. I used to volunteer at a museum that maintained an OPERATING fleet steam powered cars. Talking over 100 years old. Parts? Well the funny thing about that is its really just all tubes and fittings. The few unique things like pumps, the piston engine, and boiler and relatively simple enough that there were places that could make them for you with the original schematics- which we had. Past a certain point though yes, everything is made to order.

[@FWDSUXARSE]

We are going to see this issue more and more as newer cars age. Especially with all the electronics and touch screens. Heck my 1998 is getting harder to find specific parts like tail lights, fenders, etc. Probably doesn't help that they weren't a huge seller and many of them got wrecked over the last 27 years, and no one makes reproduction tail light assemblies.

[@garyalford9394]

You can't get parts for alot of new cars ! just ask a body shop guy !even EV's !!

[@RMJTOOLS]

I have a beater S10 that I love and use to haul home stuff. A couple of years ago I went to a dealer to get a genuine GM oil filter and some other stuff. The guy at the counter looked me in the eye and told me they don’t sell parts for cars over 20 years old. That will certainly be the last time I ever go there to buy anything, including a car.

[@TayG-y9q]

Worst part about searching for parts, especially older vehicles is you go through 5,10,20 different junkyards parts stores and whatnot and half of them cuss you out for even asking about something that old. Then you find the one and they act like it’s no big deal, we got twenty of them out back. The junkyard that I’ve found most reliable for my daily drivers rarer parts is a hour and a half drive away but I still go.

[@ruk2023--]

I'm not in the car business but I hear ya about finding parts! I have several jobs backed up waiting for one small part to complete them and it's a killer on cashflow and workflow. Happy new year Wizard and Mrs Wizard.

[@SirOsisofLiver]

We get updates from electrical suppliers and a lot of things that used to be either in stock or 4-6 weeks are now closer to 12 months. The last time I checked, the lead time of pad mount distribution transformers was 70 weeks. We have a lot of projects currently on hold because of it.

[@robertsturtevant6185]

I live in Florida, most of the old cars are now resto mods, because they can’t find parts for older cars. So they resto mod so they can get parts for newer drive lines…..it may be an American named car, but when you’re owned by stelantis, you’re quality of product or parts is going to take a crap, and they don’t care…

[@tellyfaulkner3466]

Covid didn't help either and a lot of parts suppliers are just gone. I drive an old Mazda rotary here in Oz. In Japan, a lot of the small fiddly parts are outsourced to families who only make those parts. When the tsunami struck japan (or one of their islands) a few years back, a lot of these families were literally swept away. Mazda Japan, instead of setting them up again or getting someone else to make them, just said those parts are no longer available. Tough shit, so sad too bad. On another note, with covid and everyone "locked down" people started to do maintenance/fixing their old Mazdas. When Mazda Japan realised they weren't selling a lot of new cars but selling a lot of old rotary vehicle spare parts, guess what, they jacked the prices up quite substantially.

[@ErikssonTord_2]

That is really tough sh*t! But Mazda doesn't have the biggest profit margins, so I can understand their reasoning! I worked for Volvo for a couple of years, and I know that they charge ten times for their spare parts over what they buy them for, as they need to cover the cost of storing said items, handling said items, and transporting the items to the local Volvo service unit, or if they sell it direct to a customer. So many parts for cars 20 years old they do have, sometimes even 40 years old parts, but now it is a Chinese company, so do they still do!

[@tcb1017]

I heard that in Mexico you can find anything all kind of parts for anything and if they don't have it.............................they will make it and that goes with again anything. So, if you don't find it in the US or Europe check out Mexico.

[@evoman44]

A good rule of thumb to gauge which cars will still have a decent aftermarket support years later is to look to see how popular the car was in numbers and with car enthusiasts. Also look to see how much parts commonality there was with other models of the same brand. There is still a good aftermarket support for certain 1960s American muscle cars like Mustangs and Camaros. There is also still a good aftermarket support for sporty 90's Japanese cars. I can still find most parts for my 1995 Acura Integra weather it's OEM or aftermarket because Integras have a lot of parts commonality with Honda Civics of the era which sold in great numbers.

[@khelifimohamedzakaria776]

You can find the parts for the 505 in North Africa and Iran. The 505 is a legend and a collectible in my country

[@poutrelaloutre4155]

In france too

[@buddy1155]

I just had a look at a second hand parts database for the 505 ..... I can probably build several thousand cars just from spare parts.

[@ludosys4903]

505 en Fuego parts you find in France quite easily (le bon coin). But you have to go there in person, Internet / selling is not too much of a thing over there. Let alone the language barrier.

[@JacoMonta]

Argentina is full of them.

[@shelzmike]

Imagine that. Wizard talks in hyperbole and grandiosity. I can hardly believe it

[@MichaelWagner-o3i]

There’s a Cadillac scrapyard near me that specializes in those classic Cadillacs. He’s in Burlington NJ. Guaranteed he’d have anything you need.

[@perryelyod4870]

But no one is going to replace seals or gaskets with used seals. There are limits to what parts you can use from auto wrecking parts yards.

[@docgiggles130]

@@perryelyod4870 It would still be a good place to try and get the fork for the transmission

@@docgiggles130 That wasn't a Cadillac!

[@h-linetv1082]

It’s crazy that you almost have to do research beforehand, to make sure that there’s replacement parts. Otherwise, you might have a paperweight on your hands. When I get my enthusiast cars in a few years, I’ll be looking into it extensively.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

I always say this to people who want a classic car, find one that has alot of aftermarket parts, and a big following on the internet. I bought an 1981 Rabbit and people on the VW forums are super helpful and knowledgeable and there's endless parts for MK1s. My friend bought a 1986 Dodge Shelby Charger...they make nothing for them and they're very rare and niche. He got tired of hunting for parts and not finding any tech help online so he sold it.

[@russbarrows6689]

I had a french teacher in high school (1967) who loved his Renault 16 car. To provide parts he bought two more wrecked Renault 16 cars for parts. His car was only two years old, bought new in 1965, and it was already falling apart.

[@moab67]

I leased a 2024 Honda Ridgeline 2 months ago and the windshield washer hose had 3 big holes in it from new (found out after I got home). The local dealer had to order the hose and it took a month. I checked for the part myself and it was on back order everywhere. This was for a hose that has been on the Pilot/Ridgeline platform since at least 2017.

[@Tbird1549]

Happy New Year! Thanks for all you taught us this past year! Wishing you continued success and good health in the New Year!

[@GarthGoldberg]

You could probably get parts for that Peugeot in France, but here? Fuggetaboutit.

[@ocker2000]

With the new administration starting Jan. 20th, it is going to get worse with foreign parts too as tariffs will be introduced for imports from abroad (Europe and ROW). More expensive parts and possibly less interesting to ship to the USA. The same will likely happen in reverse as well as those countries hit by tariffs will slap tariffs on US parts in return.

[@Flussig1]

It will actually get better.

[@Bayoucityconstruction]

Give the man a chance!

[@mikethorntonr1]

This has already been happening earlier with tractors so it's gonna faze out average collectors to just the few hardcore ones with money that will spend big money to get parts custom made plus alot got scrapped in mid 2000s when scrap prices went way up so hard to find even parts tractors now

[@will89687]

When Peugeot was still selling cars in the US my local dealer was dismantling 505s on the lot to fix cars (including mine!)

[@fjordking]

I had a 505 wagon most comfortable car I have ever driven. Parts hahaha my ignition went out bypass with a button switch then a battery disconnect switch so it cant be stolen 😂 sold it to a local wrecker The whole car was stripped for parts in a few days

[@scott8919]

Honda did that to an HR-V when a sensor in my door failed and they didn't have parts.

[@BobG-t2h]

505's were extremely popular in Europe and Africa for years. One would think parts were as common as old Chevys in the US.

[@kambojsbTech]

That's crazy you can't get parts for a challenger in 2024 it's not even 10 years old

[@crlaw75]

I have a '24 Chevy Colorado and I needed a windshield. Couldn't get an OEM, but I could with aftermarket.

[@BigJoe5.0]

That's what happens when the parent company (stellantis) pushed their EV cars and lays off thousands of employees worldwide that produce the parts.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

My dad has a 2007 Camry and he has a 2019 Camry...the 2007 has more parts readily available.

[@TakuroSpirit77]

Be crazy if it was true, but it's not.

[@risinbison1106]

Somewhere there’s a guy out there with 3D printers and CnC machines ready to pounce on an opportunity.

[@jshowao]

Problem is many parts are electronic and no CNC or 3D printer is going to fix screwed up firmware.

[@cm-ek4ci]

There is people already making parts to sell seen one here on KZbin 😊

[@joshuawelch2904]

That works for the vehicles before 2000 that had minimal electronics but from about 2007 on they went to complex CANBUS networks and since the new 2017 safety standards and the upcoming ones it is even going to be worse.

[@MS-Fin1917]

It makes perfectly sense, why everything is so easily available for the Ferrari. Money goes where money is. Actually older Italian cars have surprisingly good parts availability, when they are old enough. I wouldn't be worried so much about parts availability in the future, because new technology provides new affordable tooling, like 3D-printers, 3D-scanners and CNC-machines.

[@roknroy1]

Companies that sell parts are going to tailor to the an and b movers, it’s like fishing, you keep the biggest fish, and get rid of the smaller ones…especially publicly owned.

[@edbenelli5374]

My '57 oval window VW still has plenty of everything still available- brakes, bearings, gaskets, everything you need

[@n9wox]

VW shares parts between cars which helps them be more available than one offs.