Broken CV Axle Shaft WELD IT .... DID IT HOLD UP?

The welder saved the day again and my Yamaha UTV gave me hours of hard work... I mean play.
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After Thoughts about the Video: Well DANG! I tried to be nice at first. Then I got rougher and rougher. Then I just went full bore for nearly 5 hours and it's still holding! I did not expect it to grip, launch, jolt, skid and stay in one piece; but it did. I did 33 donuts and Ginger was grinning ear to ear.
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[@KBLIZZ333]

I wish I lived on a street with you and AvE as my next door neighbors. I can't even count how much real world, practical information I've learned and put to use from you over the years. You sir are a god send 🙏🏼

[@transmitterguy478]

And they both drink beer!

[@jothain]

Man, I think you would be one annoying neighbor 😂

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

If you want to learn what products to buy, add Project Farm to your list.. These are 3 of the best "regular guy" highly informative NO BS channels on here.

[@KBLIZZ333]

@@twistedhillbilly6157 That man does a fantastic job of testing products, I watch him all the time.

[@KBLIZZ333]

@@jothain instead of borrowing a cup of sugar I'd be borrowing consumables 🤣🤣🤣 Or asking for a custom set of copper vise jaws.

[@strongandco]

People can get so tied up with doing things by the book that sometimes repairs take for ever to complete. An old mechanical fitter said to me years ago when we needed to get some equipment up and running asap, 'there's exceptional and acceptable and right now this job only needs to be acceptable'. Cool fix. Also, who doesn't love a dog getting excited in the snow! Make sure you capture as many of those moments a you can.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Very well said.

[@jafinch78]

Yeah, my Dad mentioned that something along the same lines albeit not usually as he'd not "millright" style designs. He'd almost always machine and bolt or screw things together... though he'd weld stuff and just not talk about so much... if ever. I guess was an industrial master mechanic thing. Anyways, I'm totally amazed being pickier about welding from family union pipe fitter influence where you can get things as good as new and one had noted reminded him of the "Germans" who prefer to not weld and thread everything they at least can. Though yeah, cheap welders that are even FCAW machines amaze me at what they can do. Technically, as a chemist from what I understand with maybe "aluminum" as the best know example... you just heat treat after welding to basically get the "aircraft aluminum" quality and like TIG welding... just use homebrew material as filler from the material your welding.

[@The_Story_Channel]

If you carried the new axle with you, the welded one will probably never break, if you left the new axle home, the welded one would break. Good Job Moe.

[@sixtyfiveford]

So true

[@williamwarnold6737]

@The story channel, your comment is so true. Some time ago the cable snapped on the sliding door off my work van. I immediately reordered a new one, with a week’s waiting before I had it in my hand . I could see that this was going to be a right pain in the ass, climbing in and out from the back. After some splicing, and some super glue, I managed to get a temporary fix in place. I recently changed the van , sending the old van on its journey, with the new cable safely in the glove box.👍

[@MaxGiganteum]

That's a part of Murphy's Law folks seldom remember... the part that breaks is guaranteed to be the one for which there is no spare. The part that does NOT break always has a backup ready to go! If I didn't already know that Murphy was deceased, I'd hunt him down and put his head on a pike. Best wishes! 🤔🤦🏻‍♂️😡 - Max Giganteum

[@somedudeRyan]

It's only temporary if it doesn't last forever

[@dcrog69]

Thank you for showing us cheap/ broke guys how to fix stuff.

[@MaxGiganteum]

Bidenflation has bitten you too huh? Oh, why did I even ask that question?!? I'll epic facepalm myself! Best wishes! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ - Max Giganteum

[@wyattoneable]

Ginger is a hoot. You sure did a wild test for strength. A repair to be proud of and thanks for showing us the inside of how everything works.

[@sixtyfiveford]

You bet! Thanks for watching

[@JOEZEP54]

Just about everything is made to throw away & replace. When I was around 16 (many years ago) I was discussing mechanic work with guy from Italy who I was working with. He said, "mechanics? you do not have mechanics in the US, just part changers". That started a heated exchange, but he ended by saying here in the us for example we just change an alternator (still a few generators in some equipment back then). I said yeah? well in Italy we rebuild them. That was so many years back. That did not change. but for shops with labor cost etc. just replacing seem like the only way it is done. Great repair, got you up & running. Keep us up to date on this repair. Like you I try to salvage whatever I can. 👍 # 21 Stay safe, Joe Z

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great things to think about!

[@grantstockdale9848]

Inner axle joint with three roller bearings is called a "tripod" joint. Fairly common as an inner axle joint. Thanks for the great vids.

[@Bingzor1337]

Love your repairs. Like all "do-it-yourself" guys do, efficient and non snobby. Altso that dog is such a cool buddy ✌️

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks.

[@wtbm123]

One never knows how long something like that will last . Last summer i went and dug the broken bolt out of a mower spindle . Was left hand thread , they broke it removing it . I welded the bolt back together and it held fine . The bolt was on back order .

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

11:20 The technical term you are looking for is Fidget Spinner. Glad I could be of help, you've helped motivate me to explore repairs for years!

[@sixtyfiveford]

That's it!

[@jasondk5127]

I make CV joint prototypes for many different companies and your explanation was on point. The only thing I would add is never buy a remanufactured joint because they grind the heat-treated surface off the inner + outer race and they fail extremely fast. Love your videos!

[@sixtyfiveford]

That's some great info. So they regrind the races and use larger ball bearings?

[@jasondk5127]

@@sixtyfiveford Yes, they only last so long. The races are induction hardened only .03-.04 deep before finish grind. After their ground the surface hardness is about 55Rc only .02 deep gradually gets softer towards the center.

[@MaxGiganteum]

So in other words... the fully hardened layer is probably only about .003-.004 but might not be fully hardened at all depending on who does the work. Regular wear over time can eat up .020 which means a poorly rebuilt joint will fail pretty fast... sadly so. Lends credence to the phrase "You get what you pay for!". Best wishes! 👍🏻👨🏻‍🏭🇺🇸 - Max Giganteum

[@GearheadStew]

Cool repair! I never would have thought a welded CV shaft would hold up 👍

[@Senkino5o]

I was doubting.. But he did it about as right as he could, wouldn't want to run it through too many bumps though.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I spent around 5 hours yesterday pushing snow with this. I even turned off 4x4 so just the rear is pushing. It held better than I thought it would.

[@bassfan41]

I wasn't aware of the aviation gasket maker stuff for using on rubber. Glad the weld worked out for you. Love all your videos !

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's a great way to make old reused rubber gaskets seal.

[@MaxGiganteum]

Moe, is there a brand name on your can of goo? Do you have a link? Peace & good vibes! ✌🏻👨🏻‍🔧🇺🇸 - Max Giganteum

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@MaxGiganteum Permatex

[@MaxGiganteum]

Thanks... I'll have to pay more attention whilst I waltz around in the types of stores that would carry it. I literally cannot recall seeing that product though I'll confess that I don't spend much time in home improvement or hardware stores anymore - typically a couple of times a year at most. Between being semi-retired, ordering what I do need online and already having a lot of stuff... it's actually no surprise to me I've yet to spot it. If I have? I wasn't paying attention or looked right over it. Perhaps a little more browsing online might help... 🤔 Best wishes! 👍🏻🧰👨🏻‍🔧 - Max Giganteum

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@MaxGiganteum It's mainly carried at automotive stores. The #3 in the jar is a thinner version of the #2 in a tube. The #2 is readily available under half a dozen brands. The #3 ( also simply known as aviation gasket sealant) however I've only seen made by Permatex.

[@KimPassable]

follow up is such an excellent teaching tool that many youtube creators neglect. Great video. Cool machine.

[@strategicthinker8899]

I am always impressed by your confidence and resourcefulness. You just go for it.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks!

[@1nvisible1]

*Yeah I was 10% disappointed he didn't fashion a roadside metal lathe out of the axle using a rusty screwdriver as the cutter just to get it balanced. Incredible.*

[@flatlinesup]

❤ that silly ass dog. Glad no one got hurt in the roll. Looks like the repair will hold up great. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge/learning/experiments etc.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks.

[@yodasbff3395]

Nice fix as always, you do really good work. 👍 Ginger is one happy dog and so cute. 😂

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yes, thank you

[@greebo7857]

I watch your channel just for Ginger. Everything else is a real bonus. Real, down to earth content.

[@evans_workshop]

Thank you so much for all the information you share. I learn so much from watching your channel! Have a great 2023!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Same to you! Thanks

[@davidcasper8923]

We got close to 10" on the east side of W.Jordan. Same sloppy, heavy, slushy snow. Weather guessers say more tonite. Great fix to get it back on the road.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I was up in Ogden/Willard today and they have nothing on the ground.

[@ZippoVarga]

Never a doubt my Friend! So far this year we haven't gotten a plow worthy snow fall. I'm one of three in the neighborhood who has snow removal equipment with one being a landscape company with trucks and plows. They don't like me or my neighbor Dave because we clear driveways for free and take business from them. lol Cheers Moe! Happy New Year! Zip~

[@sixtyfiveford]

You're just out playing with our tractors. It's always fun.

[@jamesrice4541]

I must say you are one of the smartest persons ive ever know bud. Thanks for all your vide's you are so inspiring.

[@justintothetruth]

Dang man! Well played. I do not think “this old Tony” would have even tried such a fix. Much respect. Hope you live with it til it broke. Just to know.

[@Imwright720]

One of my favorite things is weld testing. I made a 3’ drill bit with a 2 3/8” tip. I went through rocks and cement. It never broke.

[@sixtyfiveford]

That's awesome

[@firemanjeffgg2440]

You did a better job of plowing than my streets dept does

[@KBLIZZ333]

If it's already broke you can't make it any worse. Might as well try and repair it. Or at the very least get inside and see the inner workings to better understand how it all functions.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Absolutely.

[@V8SKULLS]

Great fix, it's always super satisfying went you can Find the problem, fix the issue and don't have to count on anyone but yourself. Happy new year brother, thanks for sharing your life stories with us all

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks.

[@oby-1607]

We have a Rhino to and it has rear shaft problems. It doesn't lock up when hitting the switch and the tires are always leaning inward. Thanks for the idea of welding.

[@sixtyfiveford]

The rear end on these is an always locked axle. The locker button on the dash only locks the front axles together.

[@jamesbruno5896]

Cool repair!

[@jussiketels151]

You are a great neighbor, plugging the snow in the streets..😂 hopefully the shaft will hold for a while 👍👍 Ginger is a funny co-driver 🐶

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks 👍

[@2LateIWon]

Perfect little back up axle. Great job

[@sixtyfiveford]

Absolutely. I kind of want to just run it until it breaks and use the new axle as my backup.

[@2LateIWon]

@@sixtyfiveford why but labor has already been done. Then you can fix this one again and put the new one in. That way you'll have a spare when the new one breaks or maybe it will fit in the other side of it breaks

[@beingthere597]

Love it when you attempt something no sane person would try and it works perfectly. Must admit I binge watch your videos. Ginger is the star, though.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@annettesurfer]

I would've been inclined to reinstall the bearings prior to welding the shaft and just protected them from the splatter with slotted temporary metal plates. Plus the shaft could've been tapped to accept a bolt to hold the pieces in perfect alignment and perhaps add some additional strength through the core.

[@MaxGiganteum]

Two things: 1. A water soaked blob of balled up newspaper = some of the best weld spatter protectant EVER. Free & easily disposed of. For the Uber greenies, 100% biodegradable and non-toxic too. 2. I was thinking the same thing by using threaded shaft from something such as a bolt with the head cut off... for use in the repair of the broken shaft. There are considerations however when attempting this kind of repair. Overall length might be a factor. If the shaft was hardened (and apparently it was!), it would have to be annealed before commencing repairs. You would also have to have access to the machine tools to accomplish this type of repair... along with the tooling. Lastly, such a repair would have to actually be possible... and I'm not sure it would be in this case. I cannot make up my mind because I didn't get a good enough look at the parts to decide. Nevertheless, it's a great idea and I would have looked into it if I were in Moe's shoes. IMHO, such a repair is considered a permanent one if done correctly... and is one I've done myself a quite number of times over the last few decades of my career. Including re-hardening the shaft. Success? Every single attempt resulted in success. I'll admit though that it helps greatly to have expert welders and certain equipment at your disposal such as 100% accurate heat treat ovens. Yeah, I've been spoiled in parts of my past. Best wishes! 👍🏻👨🏻‍🏭🇺🇸 - Max Giganteum

[@hojo70]

Nice job, great fix. Careful what you post, it's illegal to plow public streets

[@Popeyes66]

Nice plough. I hope your Community appreciate your efforts.

[@roderickmacgregor4867]

The auto motive industry must hate guys like Moe for the decline in their replacement parts turn over, if its broke he will repair it if he can. Great vid love love anything ur putting out Happy new year from Scotland

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks!

[@jonrohm]

I'm imagine your neighbors staring out their windows at you while you and your dog is doing donuts in the snow! What i sight! 😆👌👌 great video as always! 😎👍👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

😁

[@mc2whls]

Ginger steals the video EVERY TIME. Nice Repair.

[@sixtyfiveford]

You got that right!

[@jcataclisma]

Man, that is great! The whole video, I mean! Lots of snow -I live in southern Brazil and despite all the headaches that blizzards might bring to you guys, I wish we´d have AT LEAST 1/5 of that snow down here as well!-, some really nice tips regarding both the broken and the new shafts. But I´ve gotta say: I think you were able to fix it ONLY because of the help of the other two characters in the video. 😁😁😁 Cheers!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Goomer]

Nice Fix.

[@mudgyver5205]

Awesome, I thought it couldn’t be fixed. Keep up the great work, as always.

[@beingthere597]

Just to clear up something from a previous video (someone may have already, don't know). You were wondering why a "funny looking u" is used in the abbreviation for microfarad. The symbol is the Greek letter mu, equivalent to our "m". Why they didn't use an m is because that is reserved for milli, meaning 1/1000. Mu is for micro, meaning 1/1,000,000.

[@wayneo7307]

Well Done Moe ! I Replaced the Muffler on my Car. New Years Eve Day. Out on the Ground as Usual . Not As Much Fun As You Had. But My Cars All Fixed . So Your Toy. Thanks For the Explanation Along the Way. Happy New Year Moe ! Love Ginger.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Never fun doing exhaust work.

[@somedudeRyan]

Interesting stuff, nice to see the inner workings of those things.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@cdeprima1209]

CV races could also be welded and filed to fill voids, quench, heat treat similar! :)

[@fraydnot]

I can see it when your daughter was younger "Dad my dolls head broke off" Moe: " I can fix it , I'll get my Mig welder and weld it back better". Thanks for the upload Moe, Utah looks like a fun place for off roading. Happy New Year

[@michaelsheeder148]

Nice job 👍 thanks Michael

[@mrtechie6810]

Nice job. You're very talented!

[@TheBudliner]

No way you fixed that! Wow Ha ha ginger loves cruising

[@Carlostype]

In the style of mad Max! 👍

[@phooesnax]

Never seen one snap. Never seen one welded!

[@KBLIZZ333]

My next door neighbor snapped one on his 07 Honda Accord that I replaced for him. Never once did I consider welding the old one. But it's cool to know that's potentially an option worst case scenario. Temporarily of course

[@MaxGiganteum]

For a low power, low RPM application... the odds of a repair lasting a long time over many hours are very good. The higher the HP and higher the RPMs go, the less the odds are of long term durability. IMHO, what it all boils down to is the type of steel the original part is made of along with the heat treatment applied plus what filler metal is used and if any heat treating is attempted after the welding is completed. As long as the shaft runs true... of course. Obviously, an ATV versus an actual automobile makes a big difference in potential lifespan so the expectations for the ATV run higher. Best wishes! 👍🏻👨🏻‍🔧🇺🇸 - Max Giganteum

[@BrucesShop]

I really liked the part was when you took apart the inner joint. I take everything apart too.

[@sixtyfiveford]

We can't help ourselves.

[@deanneufell3284]

the new shaft you took apart is like a Saab 96 one in the 70's :)

[@rsdaarud]

Nice job!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks!

[@For_the_future_millionaires]

Guys, I tried it and it worked. Thanks man

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

I just got a ride home for my delivery scooter tonight. The ignition lock cylinder seems to have stripped out - a known weakness on Genuines I've been told. I asked a neighbor are they rebuildable? Apparently not. $99 for a factory replacement and nothing on ebay because they get shanked on stolen ones. Unless anyone has any leads on how to rebuild. Toggle switch from AutoZone tomorrow - lol.

[@iancameron198]

Good job.the weld looks nice and strong also penitraited metel

[@mr1pearl]

The test ride I mean you couldn't have give it a more grueling workout I'd say a win 👍 I see somebody wants to play fetch 🐶

[@waltschannel7465]

Great job as always!!

[@transdetendal]

cool vid , learned somthing bout your rhino , somthing i havent seen here !.just wanted to say ive had welded those kind of drive shafts for frontwheel drive that was broke and never had problems after , never broke same place .

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome!

[@rchighfield1]

I had the exact same thought, “that’s one happy dog!”

[@fixit4182]

What a great channel you have

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank you so much!

[@glenharper3136]

Another great fix.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Looks like a temporary repair that might leave the replacement part sitting on the shelf until the end of days.

[@cdeprima1209]

You can also quench it for more strength; you could even heat treat it later full strength by heating and cooling, really! :)

[@DAS-Videos]

It looks like your repair is as strong as a new one.

[@zacharymaendel9212]

Nice Nike sign in the thumbnail 🤪👍🏼👍🏼

[@davidlester6092]

Happy New Year, Moe!!!!!!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Same to you!

[@aleblanc3547]

How to fix it, how it works, now let me plow my street and help out all my neighbors with the help of KZbin’s most famous dog!! Love it, Moe. ☺️

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks.

[@randymack1782]

friend broke his axle in big riding lawn mower, everyone said couldnt weld it, well i did, i used 11018 rod, and with lots of preheat, i also V cut it several times, to make weld solid to middle of the axle, how did it hold up? he used mower around farm nearly everyday, for light tractor work, and mowed with it for 2 years about every week, 18 acres, it held for 2 years, and he traded it in on a new rider, never had isse with it, and when axle broke a new axle was crazy expensive, he just wanted to get through mowing season, even if i had to weld it again, i could not build it up like you did, as it was welded where wheel attached, so had to leave weld same height as axle, thats why i upped rod strength, instead of 7018. i went to 11018,

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome.

[@flocksbyknight]

you are appreciated

[@seanedyson]

Your dog is living his best life! Lol

[@danburch9989]

If you don't take your ride airborne and land hard, that sucker will last until the engine wears out.👋👋👋👍

[@HDXFH]

High tensile steel is tricky to weld😊

[@BigFarles]

If you are reading the comment like and subscribe. This channel is a national treasure.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Your awesome

[@guyina4x499]

Only temporary if doesn't work? I've fixed a few solid shafts by sliding a sleeve on, then weld shaft, grind, slide sleeve over welded area and weld sleeve ends. I've found 3 point hitch bushings make great sleeves.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Sleeving would be ideal

[@rockstarfan886]

Once upon a time I welded a crankshaft on a dirt bike engine held for almost 2 years

[@sixtyfiveford]

That's impressive

[@reza_dc2]

Thats a cool dog man ~

[@anonymously241]

Happy New Year! 🎊💥🎉

[@sixtyfiveford]

Same to you!

[@haneyoakie14]

YOU GOT SKILLZZZ!

[@jeffsnyder2051]

who needs a tv when you have ginger,LOL😝

[@matthewcalder4351]

Mo I reckon if you could have all the money you have saved on fixing things yourself you be a rich man! 😆 great video again 👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

That's the plan!

[@job38four10]

What year Rhino? I had a 96 Artic Cat ATV and on the front axle the outer thread part broke off that holds hub on, I tried welding it with 70s, twice, and it still broke off, the problem was the outer threaded part cant be built up with weld like you did.......

[@sixtyfiveford]

It held up better than I thought. 2004

[@jdog4534]

Are the splines right on the new longer shaft?. Why not shorten it from The Middle mitering each mating in so you can get a full penetration weld with 7018? If you have to, you can put a sleeve on before you weld the ends together, then grind them flush with the shaft and then slide the sleeve over the Weld and welded sleeve on. Or just use half of the new shaft and the good half of the old one so you don't have to do all that other work. Just a suggestion. Thanks for posting another great video. I don't know where you find the time to do the work, record it, post-production Etc, or the patients to put up with dick heads like me in the comment section LOL you're a man of many parts and they're all good parts. Keep up the good work. Thanks for posting

[@sixtyfiveford]

That was one of my thoughts but the little nub didn't want to budge without destroying the cage. It would have been ideal to sleeve the repair for sure.

[@tblbaby]

sweet!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Oh yeah!

[@user-ij2ks4xw9n]

Love that hammer.

[@emeltea33]

Would it be possible to cut a section from that replacement if your original had been beyond repair?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, probably.

[@thisoldjeepcj5]

Do you remember what settings you used on the welder?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hot! I run really thin wire in my welder (.025) so my settings are going to vary widely compared to most. I ran 19.7 volts at 600 wire speed.

[@ElijahAngwin]

Er90 wire and good preheat would probably have it close to original strength

[@g3garage]

Ginger is the real "wonder dog"! Another great video!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yes! Thank you!

[@joshuamason1867]

Loved seeing Ginger catching the snow flakes while you were talking there. Lol

[@not2fast4u2c]

As much abuse you have put on the repair and it still works Save the new one in case the old one breaks again

[@macswanton9622]

You beat all, y'know that?

[@danieleminicucci8159]

God bless you

[@Flowing23]

Good as new 👍👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks 👍

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

Cool!

[@jamess.putman1779]

Love your videos. Add some liquid weight to the tires to help push snow . Great show

[@Masso1973]

Couldn’t see, put it on it’s side 👍

[@johnfackrell7516]

as tyral says it aint the space shuttle

[@jovenlagda1229]

Bevel or groove the shaft for the weld to penetrate the core, if in case broke again😅😅😅

[@sixtyfiveford]

I groove enough spots for full center weld penetration.