Broken OP nonsense

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Wrath of Koopa

Wrath of Koopa

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@twistedbrother
@twistedbrother 2 ай бұрын
This video explaining what exactly "fun factor" and progression means in dark and darker pairs very well with the previous one. And it's also good in and of itself. Just today I saw a video on some other channel where the creator was wondering what is the point of extraction looters if you're risking losing all your progress (gear=main progress, in his opinion) the instance you die in a fight. Your video is a very good explanation on why gear = progress is the wrong equation. And there are quite a few "zero to hero" videos (skilled players getting their kits in 1-2 runs starting absolutely naked and killing almost everyone in the process) to back up the point you made. Great video, glad our conversation was fruitful.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great discussion. Your comment largely inspired today's PSA.
@jamescarriere4930
@jamescarriere4930 2 ай бұрын
Well said! While I strongly agree with skill being the most important factor in the outcome of a fight, there definitely still exists some goofy OP combinations of classes/skills/weapons. I agree that the game is in the most balanced state it has ever been in, but I also believe IM has a lot more work to do on this front. I have nearly 1500 hours since EA, and don't see myself ever quitting over weird balancing changes; I think part of the fun is overcoming the challenge of outplaying players that rely on the "nonsense".
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
We strongly agree with one another. There will always be builds, over the short term, that given you very slight advantages. I think my macro point here, is that when you are have leveled up as a player, you can quickly learn them and how to counter them on your class of choice. As someone who has likely wise played for 1000+ hours, we can remember when the game really did have broken classes and builds. We know what that looks like, and today's game is nothing even remotely like that.
@unclemario8226
@unclemario8226 2 ай бұрын
A good player will know how to outplay with a bad build. A bad player will lose even with the best builds. It all comes down to fun and experience. Longsword warlock here, from the days since the class came out. I would honest recommend playing with less tools in the toolbox to shore up the fundamental skills. It’s helped me so much since I started playing the game. Most warlocks and fighters nowadays can’t out skill me due to the hundreds of hours I put into the longsword warlock.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
@@unclemario8226 A truly good point about your experience on longsword lock. There is soo much to learn in the game, even on builds you have a ton of time in. Pick something you like and learn on it. Don't jump around chasing the meta of the week, learn deeply and then apply that knowledge to any character you pick up !
@CocoMura
@CocoMura 2 ай бұрын
holy shiet a reasonable take in this wasteland of content. I'm going to camp here the night, thank you for your video.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by! Make yourself at home, we are very cat friendly here.
@sikeibutler7027
@sikeibutler7027 2 ай бұрын
You say that but you're running bard fighter cleric a meta comp. I like this style of video , keep em coming
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I think we are talking past the point with this comparison. I think we could lose to triple rogue here is they played well, chose their opening and dove the backline. I agree with you in the context of group comps in 2's and 3's. I think there are some comps which require a far greater depth of game knowledge to consistently get results. I think running rogue in threes requires a lot of player skill to see and execute the angles you need to contribute to a fight.
@p4nnus
@p4nnus 2 ай бұрын
People like you either intentionally or unintentionally leave out the fact that certain class comps & as an extention, classes, are supposed to have peaks and lows. Bard fighter cleric is supposed to be extremely strong, but it can still be countered by other comps.
@NeverWolf
@NeverWolf 2 ай бұрын
as well as falchion heater shield. the idea there isnt a concretized meta in this game is wild. i have 2k hours total experience across all gear levels, contexts and classes.
@imisleek
@imisleek 2 ай бұрын
​@@NeverWolfthat isnt even close to his point though... Did you watch the video?
@epicgamer2087
@epicgamer2087 2 ай бұрын
Your are so right dark and darker is so balanced Druid is such a balanced class.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I did not say it's perfectly balanced, I said it's more balanced than it ever has been. IMO druid still feels weak to me overall. But it's the new class. IM has generally taken several wipes to get their new classes dialed in. It will likely take another full wipe before druid is upto snuff.
@Drathrin
@Drathrin 2 ай бұрын
Forgot to sub before, you bring a nice fresh breath of air to the DaD content
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it ! Thanks for subbing, it means the world to me.
@thefinnlord
@thefinnlord 2 ай бұрын
"instant heal Ale Bard is Broken!" really? have you seen one Ale Bard in your dungeons, people of the comments? i believe these streamers may be exaggerating
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
You are certainly the first to raise the specter of this mighty brokenness. I'll be on the look out for broken belching bards !
@generick5595
@generick5595 2 ай бұрын
I agree with the message, but it doesn't fully apply to all 3 playlists, one standing out being solos. Balancing is a much different feel in solos, and there are classes that are just on top. Currently Bard and PDR fighter with dagger and buckler are top 2, with high movement barb coming in tied with 3rd place with currently buffed wizard. This balancing further changes whether you're in HR, 124 below or 25 and below. For example, HR solos a warlock would be A tier for mobs and C tier pvp, but in 124 below and 25 below, hes A tier mobs and A tier pvp. The game is the most balanced in a 3 person team. That being said, yes it is the most balanced it has ever been for trios. ( 1800+ hrs since Alpha Playtest 3)
@omnisquirrel
@omnisquirrel 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your level-headed look at the game.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching ! Lets agree to do this again some time.
@beh256
@beh256 2 ай бұрын
Honestly the game feels the most balanced in normals it ever was, with some things being a bit too strong like hunting traps being just a guarantee death in solos and druid still feeling very weak unless your having bis, what's Honestly the problem with all the vedios in general gear is extremely broken having someone be running the new ice armor and having a named wepon and still be at max movement speed with a wepon out that's broken, and not the class. And playing solo hr has to be the most painful thing to do right now I died to 5 landmines rouges after the newest patch and if the reward for demigod is really just a heart skin aka literally nothing for a solo I am going to cry. Lmao
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I just finished advocating for a continued reduction in the top end of gear scaling. I think the crunch they did at the steam launch was a good step in the right direction, but the high-end gear scale is still a bit silly. We need another ~ 15% - 20% stat reduction off the top end as a next step, IMHO.
@countdracula9763
@countdracula9763 2 ай бұрын
when druid first dropped it was so much fun the walling off things needed to be nerfed and some slight scaling but now it feels there is only 2 ways to play it anymore.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree that druid is in a rough spot, but all the new classes go through a process like this. It will take them a few wipes to get it dialed in.
@gronkist
@gronkist 2 ай бұрын
Koopa wiser than Gandalf ❤
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Thanks ! If you don't gain a little bit of wisdom when you get this old, you ain't been paying attention :P Sadly, I'm no Istari.
@imisleek
@imisleek 2 ай бұрын
This video is BROKEN 😲😲
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
This provocation will not go unanswered.....
@neaputbutter
@neaputbutter 2 ай бұрын
Hey Koopa! you mentioned class matchups in this video. to me it's not as intuitive which classes counter others. Could you make a video detailing which classes have class advantages against others? thanks!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I'm including a section on this in my next guide video for intermediate gameplay. Sorry for the delay, but those project take an absurd amount of time to get right. Be on the look out !
@randyb4191
@randyb4191 2 ай бұрын
lol dimo out here tryna pay rent catchin strays, but i do agree with the content of this wideo. I played a lot back in the play test and early third party launcher days, came back after the steam release and I was shocked by the lack of rangers in solos and buff ball teams.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
It's true. Directionally, the improvements have been very solid and stabilizing for the game. I think some of the more incendiary comments in this thread highlight a need to continue to crunch the upper end of stat budgets to further reduce TTK.
@lokifoki8071
@lokifoki8071 2 ай бұрын
That hellfire almost killing them and them surviving on 1hp was insane unandlucky!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I strongly suspect the warlock who threw it was using some sort of wall hack. We narrowly dodge several long range hell fires in excluded footage. Either that or he was insanely lucky with his long range targeting.
@Kingbryden
@Kingbryden 2 ай бұрын
I’d agree that the game feels pretty balanced, only class I have an issue with right now is bard. Even in solos the buffs the class provides are just incredibly strong. Feels like not having one in trios is trolling unless you’re running some meme/gimmick comp!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Bards is strong right now. You should have seen it upon release. I think it was nerfed 8 or 9 times in a row between then and today. We often run Range in bard's place. The playstyle is a little stronger when being pushed, and a bit softer when pushing.
@jacobmagure9452
@jacobmagure9452 2 ай бұрын
Let's go lvl up!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes, I feel like I just hit level 2.
@mosesslippers6370
@mosesslippers6370 2 ай бұрын
Cant be deemo no way anybody would get baited for that!!!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
No reason to single anyone one in particular out for this. It's very common and I'm growing concerned it will drown out the occasions when we really do need to have a conversation about balance. It's the boy who cried OP.
@NeverWolf
@NeverWolf 2 ай бұрын
this take is incorrect. there are broken weapons, there are broken combos. yes, a lot of the youtube titles are clickbait. no, skill is not the main factor in determining victory in this game. it is merely a major factor.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I think you could make an argument that opportunity and initiative can eclipse Skill as a more significant factor than skill, particularly at the very top of the GS equation, where the time to kill dynamic is super fast, but player skill is the most consistent, largest factor, in fights. I don't feel a strong desire to split hairs with you around my use of 'main' and your use of 'major' to describe the extent to which Skill is a factor. It's large, and from a consistency perspective, the ability to win fights consistently, it's primary. Are some weapons better than others, yes. I concede this point. 'Different, superior, better' are great comparative adjectives to use to discuss them. The longsword is superior to the Viking sword. I think you'd get a lot of traction in that argument. The longsword is broken. This is where we get into trouble. Use of the word broken, incorrectly I might add, paints this picture that longsword is soo far above the average that it needs immediate evaluation and correction. That it outclasses the collective catalog. It doesn't. Maybe a bad example as Longsword is rather skill dependent, my point stands. The casual use of the word broken to discuss things which are slightly better... its bad for all of us on many levels.
@xenird
@xenird 2 ай бұрын
Depends on the class. If you play ranger or wizard skill is the main factor. If you play barbarian gear is the main factor.
@carbharharbcar5867
@carbharharbcar5867 2 ай бұрын
wizard is still bottom tier. give him more buffs. he needs more buffs. he needs more buffs. i need more buffs.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Sarcasm is the language of the devil my friend and I smell sulfur on you.
@xenird
@xenird 2 ай бұрын
Yes I think magic missile should be hitscan
@cerafincakesm2314
@cerafincakesm2314 2 ай бұрын
....its Dimo, bro always does it
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Lots of blame to go around.
@bumpkin8009
@bumpkin8009 2 ай бұрын
Most classes are fine and have atleast a few playable styles. With no class being a definate top 1, the only things op are named uniques (which is fine for how rare they're) and good players The only bad class is rouge who is kind of worse versions of other classes, but the invis landmine thing had to go so hopefully they make rouge a more debuff heavy stronger melee class or something new and less cringe
@Alfie-ni7lx
@Alfie-ni7lx 2 ай бұрын
Fighter is really op tbh, sprint and 40% heal is kinda nutty. Fighter and bard are number 1 pretty op in general atm. Not having massive move speed loss and a sprint button that puts you at max movespeed with weapon out, is insane. Also barb gives themselves like 5k worth of stats. if not more. People pay ike 1-2k extra for + 5 movespeed on boots and bards give themselves like 9 + more if you take the temp buffs.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I hope they commit to a rework of the class. The melee stat check with low health thing, it's not fun to play unless it's really over powered, and it's never fun to play against. I don't have your experience with playing against a lot of named uniques, but the stat budgets and scaling at the top end of GSs is way too high.
@Alfie-ni7lx
@Alfie-ni7lx 2 ай бұрын
I meant BARD not barb lmao
@bartomiejsoma6519
@bartomiejsoma6519 2 ай бұрын
Finnaly someone with real take on the game. I agree the game is in the best state it ever was but i have to disagree on it being always skill>gear>class. Now i understood you saying that there are no truly op builds. So if i misunderstood you and you just say the game is in the best state it ever was-sorry. You dont even have to read the rest lmfao There are still some, lets call it "slightly stronger" set ups that give you an advantage. One example being mvs barbarian (cant find a solo gc without atleast 3) or panther druid. I am not Talking aboit trios cuz i havent played those in a while so dont know the meta atm, but those two stand out the most in solos. Barbarian is straight no fun to play against. Hitting msvp cap with bardiche/felling out is absurd. For classes that dont stack pdr it is almost certain death. Virtually almost no counterplay in most scenarios. Obv i assume both players have similiar skill. Another one is panther druid. Now, dont take me wrong. Playing druid right takes an ungodly amount of skill. But. Big fat but. Caster classes have NO WAY of fighting back. The silence on lmb is just a cherry on top. And then other classes, as long as they dont one shot the druid are never catching up. He is just gonna rat every door and get free reset. So, i do believe these two are the closest to being OP. Not saying they are secret free and easy money makers. But assuming a basic level of skill they do give you a pretty solid advantage i every situation. Whats your opinion?
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed comment. First, and I should have put this into the video and didn't is this : Every time we say X is OP / Broken, and what we really mean ' This class / Build is very strong' we create a danger of not being able to effectively communicate with the dev team about it when something IS legitimately broken. It's also very confusing to new players who are left with the perspective that the game is seriously unbalanced. I think we are at some of the most stable times in the games history, in terms of the number of classes and builds which are nutty, but also the distance between what is S tier and D tier. I think that both Barbarian, Wizard and Rogue have fundamental scaling issues. All three of these classes have been very hard for Iron Mace to balance due to their core design. What we get is they are super strong one patch, a minor change is made, and they are way too strong OR Weak the next. I feel like all these classes need a redesign to an extent, to make them easier to scale. This means adjusting the low end and high end of their damage potential, while also opening up great build variety in the process. I don't think it's coincidence that some of the historically strongest classes, have some of the greatest build diversity. Thanks for watching and for the detailed comment !
@godofdoor6558
@godofdoor6558 2 ай бұрын
Definitely know what you mean with the barbarian and druid stuff, probably 80%~ of my deaths are just to those 2 classes.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
@@godofdoor6558 They just need to be rebuilt from bare metal. They simply ocellate from under to over tuned with each nudge.
@bartomiejsoma6519
@bartomiejsoma6519 2 ай бұрын
I highly agree. Barbarian is a different story, cuz you kinda want him to be the class that has the problem getting to you and has no range options. But when he does get close... Pray. His problem is mainly movement speed i believe. He needs toola to get to people. But on the other hand people need tools to kite him or they simply die. And so it goes on. Its great we removed a lot of movement speed from the game and reduced the cap. Just a 10% spees diffwrence is tremendous, barbarian is a great example. Just temember what was happening before where there was like a 20% speed diff between a fighter and a ranger fo example. Now wizard. Honestly i believe out of these 3 wiz is in a really good spot. I believe main reason wizard (and also warlock and rogue) were broken was you could stack like 18 true dmg. Wchich was crazy. Now with that and recent buff to spell casting i honestly believe wizards are okay. A very strong class if you know what you re doing but definitely more or less balanced. Problem is the spells wchich make you fill only one role-dps. Even tho he has 13 spells i fell like there is no variety (not a single wizard goes without fireball and zap) Now rogues. Well my take is they are Actually by no means strong. Its just you only have 2 viable playstyles atm. And land mine is a fking joke of playstyle. No fun. My take is, they should balance movement options to get barbarian right. Wizard should get rebalance of spells and new ones should be added (we have frost mastery and there is like ONE ice spell) so he has more options to pick from. (like a cc wizard, or lets support one). Rogue should be absolutely reworked. He should be more like a trickster. His abilities like rapture- rapture and caltrops are want i believe he should be. A trickster. With great utility and best movement in the game.
@vGody
@vGody 2 ай бұрын
Wrong. My videos using a torch clearly show just how overpowered it is. Fr tho while some things may be stronger than others, nothing is uncounterable. We are far from the days of warlocks having 100% scaling on their healing or oneshotting with boc, rogues can't landmine 100-0 you instantly and surprisingly buff ball isn't the only trios comp anymore. You do still have to adhere to class counters when picking your targets (dont be a rupture+hide rogue trying to landmine a full plate fighter), but with the right setup almost anything is possible. Of course you can't tell this to reddit since every other class is broken except theirs, and when theirs is broken they suddenly become blind and deaf to any critcism.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Leave my torch-build alone ! Thanks for the comment. There will always be power gaps between characters and rolls across solo's, trio's and duos. This is natural and acceptable, we need to reserve outrage for outrageousness I don't see currently in the game. Thanks for watching !
@vGody
@vGody 2 ай бұрын
@@WrathofKoopa-fs8le Of course mate, keep the quality content up!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
@@vGody Thanks ! I will !
@awgmax
@awgmax 2 ай бұрын
2:35 ayo wtf was that???
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
a Warlock casting hellfire up through the floor at us from a long way away. Very fishy. He threw it at us two other times, but those didn't make the cut :p
@yahimo6427
@yahimo6427 2 ай бұрын
dark and darker is balanced xD meanwhile double wizard bard taking over hr trios
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but seeing Draven as your profile icon makes me despair. None the less, what I said is " The game is at it's most balanced point in it's history ". I didn't say that it's perfectly balanced and all classes and comps are essentially equal. I've also said two things which might interest you with regard to your current example : 1. Wizard is essentially unbalance-able with it's current design. Any minor change IM makes to the class takes it from trash tier to unfair and back again, seemingly every patch. It needs a bottom's up redesign, with fair scaling in mind, to escape this cycle. 2. The top end gear scaling and budgets are too large and time to kill is still too fast. Iron Mace need to continue to reduce the stats available to us on high end gear to avoid these 1 shot, 2 shot metas from arising like clockwork, as that gear level becomes more common. Thanks for watching !
@TohGahr
@TohGahr 2 ай бұрын
hunting traps should not have a skill check and need to be balanced in some way.
@Solidus-
@Solidus- 2 ай бұрын
this is gold. everything about it, give me your discord link.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it ! here you go : discord.gg/hCN6DTjgVM
@DnDimo
@DnDimo 2 ай бұрын
I call Cap 🧢
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Hey bud, not calling you out in this video, take it as the compliment which I intended, when I say it's the player who is op.
@LenkelDnD
@LenkelDnD 2 ай бұрын
Legend
@WolfHreda
@WolfHreda 2 ай бұрын
You would, Dimo. 😂
@wasntmeh1107
@wasntmeh1107 2 ай бұрын
Trash 124 gear lobby player
@criscage1402
@criscage1402 2 ай бұрын
Dimo “holy F*ck this is so op broken” and he’s in max gear and rolls. 😂😂😂😂 🤡 with over 10k kit 😂😂😂
@RetroRey777
@RetroRey777 2 ай бұрын
wizard is certainly Way overtuned based on the last update.
@Andrew-cs1td
@Andrew-cs1td 2 ай бұрын
I kind of had this thought, but at the same time maybe I'm just actually noticing wizards now bc before they were basically a none issue.
@RetroRey777
@RetroRey777 2 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-cs1td oh they were an issue. most people just refuse to play it solo bc the previous cool thing to do was farm AP. no one cares about it now so wizard is viable in solo. Thats literally the only reason people weren't playing it.
@Andrew-cs1td
@Andrew-cs1td 2 ай бұрын
@@RetroRey777 You could very well be right, I've only been playing a couple weeks and haven't tried wizard yet.
@Toothydeere
@Toothydeere 2 ай бұрын
I like the voice
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it ! Thanks for watching !
@drago2412
@drago2412 2 ай бұрын
2:58 I mean, certain websites advertising skull keys for $8 beg to differ...
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Sure, you can turn 8 dollars into a nice kit. Which you'll lose to a more skilled player by and by. I stand by what I said ! there are no short cuts ! Level the player !
@xenird
@xenird 2 ай бұрын
8$ for 10k is crazy
@TheGriff130
@TheGriff130 2 ай бұрын
Dimo *cough* *cough*
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Lots of blame to go around.
@Ching91919
@Ching91919 2 ай бұрын
The only "O.P" thing that is happening in game is the naked meta in the 0-24 gear range. its f hard to kill something u cant hit, or if they out strafe you as a new player. If u go in with gear as a new player and has 50-60% reduction in movement it is f hard to hit something thats bouncing around or playing hide and seek while poking you with a bow until they finally kill you. When u are new to this game u gear up, you tend to stack as much armor as possible to be able to take hits from mobs without dying after going trough 3 areas or rooms. But theese naked poker`s will run around corner and peek you with a ranged weapon until they kill you, if you try to run and heal its almost impossible to outrun mobs, dodge arrows and be chased by players while heal at the same time. If it was not for the started gear, people would quit after a few games or hours if this happens evry single raid for 4-5 hours straight. Worts map is goblin cave. Best map for new players is Crypt or Ice Cavern because many of the naked pvp meta hunters dont even know how to dodge an AI. Its is extremly hard to naked run around on these maps since the amount of mobs is way higher than Goblin Cave. Wish they added some form for penalty for the naked g-fuel sniffin speed demons. =P (yes, ive died to them all day) RIP. WE move. GG go next!
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
This example frames my points in this video nicely. By and large, these naked players are leveraging their skill and knowledge, allowing them to play without gear, to gain both the advantage from their massive experience delta, while also gaining a move speed advantage. This has been a problem before. It went way for a while, but it might be coming back. Iron Mace really needs to increase the damage unclothed people take. It's a double advantage for those players in the 25 threshold.
@CodyisKing
@CodyisKing 2 ай бұрын
Agreed all these tubers ruined balance with their biased videos
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I might be guilty of this, I don't know. I try to be reasoned in my criticisms. I have not really rallied around a call to nerf a class since barb was in a god-state in the early spring time of this year.
@bilbobagsacs6112
@bilbobagsacs6112 2 ай бұрын
lol dark and darker is far from balanced lol you must not play high roller or run with gear much cause everything just 2 shots you in high roller lobbies
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
While that might be true, it's far better than it has been historically. You are getting two-shot now, but in pervious patches you would be getting one-shot. I agree with your core complaint. High time-to-kill feels bad. Your defeats feel cheap and you feel like you have no opportunity for counter play. I think I would strongly agree with continuing to lower the upper end of gear scaling, to make fights last longer and lower the time to kill you are describing. That doesn't change the fact that the game has often been FAR worse than this, and this wipe has been a great directional change of course for the product. I hope they continue to look at slowing down the game's TTK to provide more opportunity for counter play.
@Andrew-cs1td
@Andrew-cs1td 2 ай бұрын
IF "everything 2 shots you" doesn't that mean everything is ummm balanced?
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-cs1td It's certainly UNFUN to me, but SDF has said many times he likes it this way. It really depends on what you are shooting for design wise. I think most reasonable people from other games would consider it UN fun. Balance is about relativity here. If multiple classes can two shot you, it's not a balance issue, it's a design issue. Not trying to nit pick, just aiming for precision.
@bilbobagsacs6112
@bilbobagsacs6112 2 ай бұрын
@@WrathofKoopa-fs8le during the playtest i think the game was the best it ever was cause well people didnt know exactly what worked and how to do huge dmg and it made the game fun its like tarkov when wipe happenss and eveyone has shit ammo and fights last mags at a time
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
@@bilbobagsacs6112 Certainly, but we can't go back to a time when people didn't understand which knobs and leavers make the damage go brrrrr. We can certainly talk about how to lengthen the time to kill equation, and I think we should. It's still too high at the top end. But working inside what we have today, and looking back on where we've come since those early playtest, right now is the best the game's been.
@EAErue
@EAErue 2 ай бұрын
People just dont understand pvp games with different classes are like rock/paper/scissors. They play X class and have a lil hard time against Y class they start calling Y OP it needs to get nerfed etc. Just play every class and you'll understand every class is op :D. Nerf all buff Goblinss
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
That certainly one approuch, if you have the free time to invest it. Another one is to play the same class to the point of mastery, to better understand and limit test into these classes which give you trouble. You will eventually understand why they are countering you so hard, and how you might be able to outplay them. Thanks for watching !
@DoctorDarlingTTV
@DoctorDarlingTTV 2 ай бұрын
It's gotten tiresome (in all games/genres) how the word "broken" has lost all meaning, and literally just means "strong."
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
I'm trying not to cave to the semantic arguments, but we live in an age where communication, precise communication, has never been more valuable. Twain said, " A lie can get half way around the world before the truth has time to put it's boots on. " I don't think he could conceive of the world we live in, nor the magnification effect which our technology can give to the wrong information. We have a responsibility, and the casual use of the word broken flies in the face of it.
@Ashsanity
@Ashsanity 2 ай бұрын
while the clickbait isn't wrong, your video is no different atall, you're using that OP Broken hype to make your own video just the same, and it goes without saying that it wont ever be 100 fair. its a game. you are SO SO SO SO wrong though, right now warlock is overpowered. right now double backstep ranger is crazy strong. what you have completely failed to address is that the game has a kind of rock/paper/scissors, you need range or movment speed to deal with somebody faster than you or you just lose, no ifs or buts, you don't get to decided when and how to engage on the fight because you cant do ranged damage/ cant chase somebody down. that being said, cleric has had tons of videos about how it is' OP' meanwhile it is the weakest solo class in the game due to its low mobility and its magic damage being largely counterable by melee warlocks/ barbarians resistances. i could go on and on and on, almost none of your opinions are correct enough to be valid. the point you SHOULD get across. is that you can have fun regardless of whether or not you are playing what is currently strongest.
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for participating in my performance art. I am absolutely right about leveling up the player, and investing your time into a class / weapon and build combo which helps you have fun, while motivating the player to continue to learn about the game. Which is the point I close with. Thanks for the comment, Regardless of your many gripes, the game is more balanced right now, than at any point in it's development history.
@EdWuncler3rd
@EdWuncler3rd 2 ай бұрын
If you took a second to look at his other thumbnails, you’d see he never did it before on a previous video (almost like it was to prove a point here). Also game is not balanced around solos, and probably shouldn’t ever
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le
@WrathofKoopa-fs8le 2 ай бұрын
@@EdWuncler3rd It's absolutely to prove a point, and reach a viewer base who might be misled. Thanks for watching !
@xenird
@xenird 2 ай бұрын
Warlock got heavily nerfed, life drain heals like 2.5 times less
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