Brownells BRN-4 - The U.S. Made HK416

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@javontinslet5181
@javontinslet5181 5 ай бұрын
Anyone who paid 10k for an HK 416 upper, don't watch this video. The potential for self-harm after watching is high. Viewers' discretion is advised lol
@fieldy-8008
@fieldy-8008 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Murderface666
@Murderface666 5 ай бұрын
Wife: "You promised not to buy any more rifles!!!" Me: "True, honey. But this isn't a rifle. It's an upper."
@jamescumming4291
@jamescumming4291 5 ай бұрын
Me with the brn180, pws mk116 and wolf A1 😅
@mikewithers299
@mikewithers299 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@arlissyoung8899
@arlissyoung8899 5 ай бұрын
You haven't learned yet? You get them really nice and expensive rifles for Christmas, anniversaries and their Birthdays. Tell them, Baby I want you to be apart of this with me so bad I got you this HK 416 / LMT / LWRC / Sig and so on. Don't forget a lot of mags, Ammo and top it off with a high end Scop, Red Dot, PVO with them so she knows how much you love her. My wife always said, "O Baby you shouldn't have, it so nice and coast so much" Me, Honey your worth every bit of it and more. She kept saying " No You really shouldn't have" for some reason.
@mikewithers299
@mikewithers299 5 ай бұрын
@arlissyoung8899 you gotta try the 50/50 approach. She gets the upper, you get the lower. Together your gifts make a perfect match. 🤣🤣
@declineofthewest.
@declineofthewest. 5 ай бұрын
I’ve used that before
@jonathanwick1265
@jonathanwick1265 5 ай бұрын
The BRN-4 barrels are produced by Faxon. The barrels are made out of 4150 chrome moly steel according to Brownells' website, but they are not cold hammer forged. I think Brownells' should have reached out to FN for the BRN-4 barrel just to stick it to H&K.
@dcstiger
@dcstiger 5 ай бұрын
They also have a chrome lined version in the medium profile(not cold hammer). It's $150 more than the standard model. I was tempted to get it but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Faxon has a good reputation from what I understand.
@epiccowboymemes2042
@epiccowboymemes2042 5 ай бұрын
CHF or nothing
@jonathanwick1265
@jonathanwick1265 5 ай бұрын
@@dcstiger Same. Wish it was a CHF chrome lined barrel.
@A-SavageRedneck
@A-SavageRedneck 5 ай бұрын
​@jonathanwick1265 yep I worked on 1k-1500 of those barrels when I worked at faxon
@oldscratch3535
@oldscratch3535 5 ай бұрын
They should have reached out to DD since they used to make the actual 416 CHF barrels. Brownell's already gets exclusive uppers from DD.
@ElTejon47901
@ElTejon47901 5 ай бұрын
More money than sense? Standing right here, Chris. Right here.
@ElTejon47901
@ElTejon47901 5 ай бұрын
Aside from giving you the business, great video. I like the longer format as you have such a basis of knowledge to share.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 5 ай бұрын
That was true of me when I had much less money
@josh656
@josh656 5 ай бұрын
Was issued a new 416D in 2006 when on a PSD. The full auto was much more controllable (more of a direct backwards impulse) than our older Colt 10.3’s, which climbed up and over on FA. And about 100x cleaner!
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
I used an HK416 overseas. Full auto was too fast in my opinion. Especially with the suppressors on them. I wouldn’t say it’s more controllable, but it is different.
@hairydogstail
@hairydogstail 5 ай бұрын
nope
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
@@hairydogstail oh wow yeah you got him
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 5 ай бұрын
H&K is good at solving problems that other manufacturers dont run into.
@donaldmei8797
@donaldmei8797 5 ай бұрын
The only reason to ever buy a 416 is as a collector or investor. We can debate whether it's a good investment. But it's at least a reasonable investment. Years ago I passed on an offer for 3 - M16A2s in the box at 6k each. Ouch.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 5 ай бұрын
@@donaldmei8797 I dont begrudge collectors or investors, I only begrudge fanboys.
@Brody2362
@Brody2362 5 ай бұрын
i mean there's definitely a reason they did what they did. they just never updated the import model for whatever reason.
@willl7780
@willl7780 4 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@albundy7459
@albundy7459 13 күн бұрын
@@Brody2362because they don’t need to sell civilian rifles. It’s a drop in the bucket in comparison to military contracts.
@thatguy-fm7sz
@thatguy-fm7sz 5 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, PWS is the OEM on the BRN-4 parts. Big fan of the BRN-4 parts.
@ecleveland1
@ecleveland1 5 ай бұрын
My father was in Vietnam. I’ve always been a fan of the M16A1 and its full auto fire. He always told me you don’t use full auto like they do in the movies. He said you try and do three or four round bursts of controlled fire and only in specific situations such as covering fire and maneuvering fire. Your shooting segment of the video reminded me of him telling me this..
@elifoust7664
@elifoust7664 5 ай бұрын
One trigger pull..3 rounds in auto
@Msalazar6sicVI
@Msalazar6sicVI 5 ай бұрын
You can get the Caracal 816 upper, which is an improved version of the 416 (made by same engineers) for a lot less $$
@juanoncello86
@juanoncello86 5 ай бұрын
Focus Tripp did a review of it using my own upper that I sent to him. Pretty in depth.
@natcom
@natcom Ай бұрын
Great review & well presented.
@rollypollyguy3976
@rollypollyguy3976 5 ай бұрын
No way!!! I was hoping you'd do a little snippet on the Brownell's clone. Thanks for the breakdown.
@Gort-zs5ph
@Gort-zs5ph 5 ай бұрын
I owned an HK 416 upper receiver, used it with an M16A1 lower, ended up selling the HK, primarily due to the cam pin carving the inside of receiver. Had metal shavings in the receiver after each use. The accuracy wasn’t as good as the older Colt upper I had at the time, so I sold the HK. The weight was noticeably more with HK. Thank you, great show.
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
have you never shot an AR before??
@jhamm12
@jhamm12 5 ай бұрын
Chris, thanks for another excellent video! I bought one of Brownells billet BRN-4 stripped upper receivers in February 2023. When it finally arrived, the BRN-4 bolt would not fit inside the upper. A batch of uppers was manufactured with incorrect specs and wasn’t caught by inspection. Thankfully, Brownells gave excellent customer service and paid to ship back the defective upper and sent me a new one as soon as the company produced a correct batch. My 10.4” BRN-4 runs amazingly well. No malfunctions and fit and finish are exceptional. I love HK pistols and rifles and I’m glad Brownells provides this 416 option.
@panamared5975
@panamared5975 2 ай бұрын
Dude, that ejection pattern was beautiful
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 5 ай бұрын
See the Hk M4 at 4:00 I ordered the M4 stocks for the prototypes from Brownell’s. If you look closely, you can see the Bushmaster snake logo. Larry Vickers was a frequent customer at the FFL I worked at just outside of Fort Bragg at the time and even had one of his end mills in the back. He put together a list of some basic parts they needed and had us order them. The M4 waffle stocks were cool at the time. We originally had them in the Land Warrior Airborne Test Platoon in my Company in 3-325 AIR in the 82nd, but we were supposed to turn them in and put the Colt Fiberlite stocks back on. During an ORS, I found some in a connex and snagged one for my M4, textured it with Rustoleum stone coat, camo’d it, then matte-coated it along with my KAC rail panels. There were almost no after-market stock options back then due to the Clinton AWB, which finally expired in 2004 and then it was on like Donkey Kong.
@FryingTiger
@FryingTiger 5 ай бұрын
Then Snickers threw his whole life away and rolled over, too.
@Bigcat726
@Bigcat726 5 ай бұрын
Underrated channel, I love these videos all about the history of the hk-416 and it’s derivatives like the brn-4, caracal 816, and the sig 516, and this is another top notch video as well
@JimboLogic
@JimboLogic 5 ай бұрын
Heckler & Koch "Because you suck and we hate you."
@DatSun.
@DatSun. 5 ай бұрын
so real
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
more like because they're partially owned by the german government, who hates you, and the atf also hates you. if you can believe it, HK, a company, would like to make money
@benbreakfast4314
@benbreakfast4314 5 ай бұрын
I was a fan of the M27 variant when I had one issued but I never felt the need to buy/build one.
@RangerColinLZ
@RangerColinLZ 5 ай бұрын
I have to appreciate that you pointed out that the BRN-4 isn't NEARLY as gassy as the actual HK product. It shoots so nicely because of it.
@JohnZ556
@JohnZ556 5 ай бұрын
😁Seeing that neat line on the brass deflector makes me happy. That's a good sign that the ejection pattern is good and consistent.
@JohnZ556
@JohnZ556 5 ай бұрын
It's too bad it doesn't have adjustable gas to keep that wonderful pattern when suppressed. I went the LMT route for that, and overall better quality. IMHO, the LMT shovelnose is a much better handguard solution, and that piston assembly only takes a few seconds to disassemble, which makes it so much easier to clean. LMT's cryo-chrome-lined barrel is also about as good as it gets for a fighting rifle. The 12" piston barrel shot 1.3 to 1.8 MOA groups at 50m with a 2MOA red dot and magnifier using 60cpr defensive 5.56 ammo, resting on a backpack. Since I want to know how the accuracy is under a more realistic setting instead of testing its mechanical potential. HK's attitude towards the cilivan market drove me away from liking their products. If I really want something like a 416, this BRN4 is definitely a very good choice!
@justanothergunnerd8128
@justanothergunnerd8128 5 ай бұрын
Not super into ARs but I love Brownells for bringing out the cool, retro stuff, or in this case a much cheaper repro/substitute.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 5 ай бұрын
“Can we buy HK?” “We have HK at home”
@ghostmourn
@ghostmourn 5 ай бұрын
its not the same dad
@bullpupgaming708
@bullpupgaming708 5 ай бұрын
I'd rather have HK at home then no HK because HK just refusing to sell to the civilian market.
@Swede2of3
@Swede2of3 5 ай бұрын
Man, that squeaking between 6:15-6:57 had me looking all over my room, trying to find out what needed WD-40. Great video and info, as always, brother.
@IlmarBeekman
@IlmarBeekman 5 ай бұрын
Brownells had been doing some amazing things lately. Especially between this and the brn 180. My only gripe with the brn is that once the dust cover is open, the ingress of mud, dust, etc is quite likely in certain conditions. I really wish they would look at how sig 550 solved this problem with a rubber seal riveted to the upper receiver that allows the charging handle to reciprocate without opening up the action.
@donpope5524
@donpope5524 5 ай бұрын
From the Brownell site, quote; "The upper receiver utilized in this assembly is made completely new, from billet, to mirror the profiles commonly found on forged upper receivers. Contours of the upper are entirely machined from billet, so rounded areas such as the cam pin protrusion and complex contours will show machine passes more prominently.
@Leo_Sneedinsky
@Leo_Sneedinsky 4 ай бұрын
16:55 live firing timestamp. What a dope rifle, the way its kitted out is badass looking
@seanuh60
@seanuh60 5 ай бұрын
Why does everyone forget that in 2022 when brownells first dropped their burn-4 they had uppers that were made on “hk tooling” and these forged uppers do not have the cosmetically undesirable milling marks around the complex corners as later in house made uppers would have.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
These are now Brownells forged uppers, not HK. The lowers back then were HK forging as well. Procured from HK in Colombus GA. These are not
@TexasTerpz27
@TexasTerpz27 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the amazing content even though i dont have the time to watch right away. Always love chris' view , would love to own one of these and see for my self how it compairs to a H&K
@rory4656
@rory4656 5 ай бұрын
ELCAN IS ONE OF THE BEST OPTICS OUT THERE
@retirednobaddays456
@retirednobaddays456 5 ай бұрын
Another good video. At 20:30 in the video you said the Spector Elcan was made from 7075 aircraft grade aluminum. If you talk to anyone who works with aluminum and you say "aircraft grade" they will start laughing. The aerospace industry uses many grades of aluminum 2024, 6061, 7050, 7075 are just a few. The number 7075 is the grade and there is no sub grade under 7075 that is called "aircraft grade". In some cases 6061 is a better choice if corrosion is a issue. By the way Grumman aerospace used 6061 in aircraft and water craft.
@calebsone1630
@calebsone1630 5 ай бұрын
I found a mr556 for sale with a full auto lower parts kit I wonder if the bolt carrier is full auto as well. After seeing this and knowing exactly what I'm looking at I'm about to go check it out tomorrow
@IronGunner10
@IronGunner10 5 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this. As always, great content. 👍
@Scott-qq9jd
@Scott-qq9jd 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I bought one of the first batch of BRN-4s, back when they were using original HK uppers and handguards, and after your Caracal video I'd wondered if I'd made a mistake. I still haven't managed to get mine to the range yet. Still thinking about changing out the handguard for something else for shooting while keeping the original somewhere safe.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 ай бұрын
🇺🇸
@korybeckwith834
@korybeckwith834 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for another professional video. Your videos provide much info in the length of them. I believe HK has a adjustable gas block now. I bought the parts to build one of these so your information invaluable. I probably bought a few HK parts I didn't need. I just don't get HK. Overpriced stuff, good but equal to alot of other military gun manufacturers
@reno3249
@reno3249 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, i can now rest easy that my purchase of one is money well spent. Also appreciate the info on the deck height haha!
@donpope5524
@donpope5524 4 ай бұрын
Excellent Review 👍
@mattg8294
@mattg8294 2 ай бұрын
Yes you can definitely use an ACOG in CQB. You have to be able to shoot with both eyes open. You also need to be able to focus between both eyes. IE I always shot with a pistol both eyes open and could not figure out why I would throw a few rounds left at the 25 during qualification. Why? because I shot both eyes open and would look for a bullet impact with my left eye and slam off another round too soon.
@pyroromancer
@pyroromancer 5 ай бұрын
Brandon left a couple thousand of 416s in Kabul last year. I snagged 2 416s and a m110a1 from a Asian dealer for a steal.
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 5 ай бұрын
And 512,000 M-4s, and 26,000 belt feds. Treason.
@elifoust7664
@elifoust7664 5 ай бұрын
They showed up in Gaza
@theselector2310
@theselector2310 5 ай бұрын
@@tonyc223Absolute Treason!
@oldguyofarizona8602
@oldguyofarizona8602 4 ай бұрын
The equipment given away sucks, but the blood we shed to hand it all back to the enemy should have gotten the cadaver impeached.
@duckbuster1572
@duckbuster1572 2 ай бұрын
Y’all are weird
@Veritas419
@Veritas419 5 ай бұрын
If the Brn-10 and the “Retro-Line” of rifles is any indication these won’t be around long. If you want one, get one because the folks at Brownells are fickle, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all they’ll make a couple hundred of these and then discontinue it.
@stephendubois3337
@stephendubois3337 22 күн бұрын
Great video thanks! Ordered one just now but can't locate the Giesley Link and you didn't cover the H2 recoil buffer and spring Brownels recommends. Can you add?
@DrSQUIRRELBOY12
@DrSQUIRRELBOY12 5 ай бұрын
When I built my 416 clone using BRN4 parts I immediately noticed how much more well gassed it was than a MR556. Wonder if putting the Brownells gas block on a MR556 would make that better or if the gas port diameter in the barrel is the issue on the HK guns.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
No, it’s not the gas block it’s the gas port
@DrSQUIRRELBOY12
@DrSQUIRRELBOY12 5 ай бұрын
@@SmallArmsSolutions Ahh, that makes sense.
@epiccowboymemes2042
@epiccowboymemes2042 5 ай бұрын
The MR556 is the issue by default. It's not gassed like a 416 and it doesn't use the correct barrel.
@DrSQUIRRELBOY12
@DrSQUIRRELBOY12 5 ай бұрын
@@epiccowboymemes2042 My understanding is that the 416 is just as overgassed as the MR556.
@RNichols398
@RNichols398 5 ай бұрын
When I built my BRN4, mine was short stroking. I had to open the gas port to 0.0655” to get it to function reliably and hold open after last round. The inside of my gas block had a lot of radial chatter from machining that I’m guessing was not a great gas seal. This now ejects perfectly with the Geissele super 42 buffer and spring.
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg 5 ай бұрын
I got to play around with a hk416 over in finland and it's unbelievably heavy.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
I used one overseas. Weighed around 14lbs. And some guys had 416’s that weighed 16lbs…
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg 5 ай бұрын
@@darklyripley6138 What's your overall impression of the weapon system from a professional perspective?
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
@@ThomasRonnberg Good gun. But it’s not anymore accurate and reliable than a regular DI gun. It’s outdated nowadays.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
Good gun. Not anymore reliable or accurate than a DI gun. Kinda outdated though.
@Klaus293
@Klaus293 5 ай бұрын
@@darklyripley6138Your observation is inline with many users. The expense, for the non enthusiast, just doesn’t offer additional performance to make a move from DI. But, if you want one, you know what to do.
@dalestark3343
@dalestark3343 5 ай бұрын
Great review as always Chris
@tacticplanner7188
@tacticplanner7188 5 ай бұрын
Love your videos and your honesty and your recommendations on the p210.
@WhiskyCardinalWes
@WhiskyCardinalWes 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@felixm24
@felixm24 5 ай бұрын
we had The real deal 416 and they were ok at best. Bent oprods and way over gased they would constantly break the disconnect because of the over gassing problem they were all replaced with LMT
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
bent op rods. holy not true statements batman
@6NBERLS
@6NBERLS 5 ай бұрын
Most excellent. I really enjoyed this video.
@HustleMuscleGhias
@HustleMuscleGhias 5 ай бұрын
I've always wondered how an SKS style gas system would work in an AR pattern rifle. There have been hybrids using the AK style gas system with the Korean K2 series, and the typical gas system on an AR reminiscent of the German Gewehr 43 / Soviet SVT-40 system, but I've never seen the SKS style gas setups attempted. I do have an oddball SKS that was made by Norinco that is in .223 that uses Type 84 magazines so the system is viable for smaller calibers.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Most use the same gas system as an SKS, short stroke piston. The SKS uses a diffrent locking system, very similar to the StG44 and the FAL so some extent.
@HustleMuscleGhias
@HustleMuscleGhias 5 ай бұрын
​@@SmallArmsSolutions I apologize, I should have been a little clearer in my wording. With that being said, let me rephase my statement. I've always wondered about how a system with a piston and gas block identical to that of an SKS would work on an AR platform rifle ( regardless of bolt carrier system ) and if there would be any benefits in the long term in terms such as reduction in power fouling or the ability for longer sustained firing especially if a role similar to an RPK type configuration. I do know that barrel harmonics would be an issue to some extent, but hypothetical and what ifs always interest me.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
The SKS system using a push rod and an intermediate rod id identical to many rifles such as LWRCI, HK 416, Caracal…… All thats different is the intermediate rod is held in a separate compartment and the return spring is attached to the intermediate rod instead of the operating rod. The system is the same. The RPK is better designed as a long stroke for the heavy full auto use. The thicker operating rod is very beneficial for durability. The SKS is designed with semi-auto in mind. Far less demanding than full auto let alone a sustained fire weapon. Hope this answers your question.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 5 ай бұрын
I've had a couple of gas piston AR's. A Sig 516 and a CMMG retrofit. I don't really think the added cost and weight bring anything to the the gun.
@PeteRock1
@PeteRock1 5 ай бұрын
I believe Maxim Defense sells 416 styled uppers.
@FrankMuchnok
@FrankMuchnok 5 ай бұрын
What a company engineer calls a runaway rifle; "An Unintentional Non-Conforming Burst" (7:02).
@donpope5524
@donpope5524 4 ай бұрын
1&1/2" to 2&1/2" groups...not bad for 1 in 7" barrel w/ 55gr...would love to see what a 75 to 77gr would do. MOA I'm guessing!
@Rocksteady713
@Rocksteady713 5 ай бұрын
Can you get your hands on a dissent mk4 rifle in 5.56? I wanted to know how well it suppresses with the their compact action DI system and adjustable gas block. I like how they have extra parts for it maintenance wise but how well does it run and how accurate is it considering it’s modified.
@MrSLF
@MrSLF 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. 👍
@donaldmei8797
@donaldmei8797 5 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to know what you think about the BRN4 vs the Caracal 816??
@TheCriticalPigeon
@TheCriticalPigeon 5 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video, sunscribed.
@caseyplunkett6083
@caseyplunkett6083 5 ай бұрын
I’ll stick with PWS for a piston “AR”. From the marines that I’ve spoken with that were given 416’s they reported no difference in performance, just a perceivable increase in weight.
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
because they shoot in general directions. the US fights with air support. the US should issue american 180s because they're lighter and that's it
@TeletubbiesRcute
@TeletubbiesRcute 5 ай бұрын
15:00 Gas tube/op-rod diameter was "1.80 inches" and was increased to "2.35 thousandths of an inch"? What?
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 5 ай бұрын
Chris, how would you compare the recoil impulse/shootability of the BRN-4 to the LMT external piston? The LMT is the only external piston AR I have significant time behind, and I have found it to be quite pleasant and perfectly gassed. I'm curious how the BRN-4 compares.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Negligible. Not much diffrent. The LMT probably is gassed slightly more using same ammo. But nothing like the 416
@stevenr6539
@stevenr6539 5 ай бұрын
Always great videos thanks!
@0326Ghost
@0326Ghost 5 ай бұрын
How do you think the HK416 compares to the Colt 6940P? Can you do a video on that?
@UndertheTreesPNW
@UndertheTreesPNW 5 ай бұрын
That would be a good comparison. I have the 10.4" 416 and a 16" Colt LE6940P but prefer the Colt despite the monolithic upper. I'd like longer handguard options
@sladeoriginal
@sladeoriginal 5 ай бұрын
Does the Caracal 816 have any pros over the BRN4?
@T20-c8f
@T20-c8f 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s not brownells.
@thestoic_rn8911
@thestoic_rn8911 5 ай бұрын
I own both a BRN 4 and 816. No significant difference.
@connorburnes7697
@connorburnes7697 5 ай бұрын
The gas system is a bit better in the caracal. The Caracal is the third evolution of the system by the original 416 engineers for what that’s worth.
@trevorcoyle517
@trevorcoyle517 5 ай бұрын
FocusTripp has a good series on these rifles as well.
@LDB670
@LDB670 5 ай бұрын
I have both. 816 gas system is definitely better. Its adjustable. I think it shoots softer than the mr556 or Brn4.
@A-SavageRedneck
@A-SavageRedneck 5 ай бұрын
Ive machined probably a thousand or 1500 of those brn4 barrels
@jonathane8585
@jonathane8585 2 ай бұрын
BRN4 vs Caracal 816A2 uppers? Which would you choose?
@7SixTwo
@7SixTwo 4 ай бұрын
Not sure if I missed it, but how exactly was the gassing fixed on these? You said the gas block was pretty much the same as a normal 416's with the exception of the detents for a front sight post. I would have assumed it was a change in the gas port that remedied the overgassing
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 4 ай бұрын
The gas port is adjusted to balance the system. It’s not overgassed. The system has been slowed down so you don’t need a firing pin block. Parts are not taking such a beating .
@7SixTwo
@7SixTwo 4 ай бұрын
@SmallArmsSolutions Makes sense, thanks for the reply!
@TheBradyrulez
@TheBradyrulez 5 ай бұрын
Chris, did you use the 7.62 or 5.56 version of the LMT can? I've got the 7.62 version myself and have found it to be a fairly decent setup in 308, which I'm also using ASR on.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
I use the 7,62 version
@TheBradyrulez
@TheBradyrulez 5 ай бұрын
@@SmallArmsSolutions it's a can that I want to do more personal testing on in 300 BLK, as I hear low backpressure designs are a poor fit for the cartridge, but hope that is not the case. In 308 I noticed it was distinctly louder than my SilencerCo Velos in 5.56, but I'm not sure if that's just because 308 is louder overall even with suppression.
@TannerBlattner
@TannerBlattner 5 ай бұрын
My least favorite thing about the elcan is the center dot. It is so large. Even the 1-4x is capable of hitting targets at 500 yards and I am no excellent long range shooter. If only they would just decrease the size of the dot and hash marks those longer shots would be so much easier.
@danielhess39
@danielhess39 5 ай бұрын
Awesome review!! Thank you👍🏼🤙🏽
@MyFlexinIsAProblem
@MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 ай бұрын
My 10.4” BRN 4 is one of if not my favorite SBR AR I have
@jamesoneill8901
@jamesoneill8901 5 ай бұрын
Very consistent 3 O'clock ejection, just like you said 🎉
@samthai818
@samthai818 5 ай бұрын
For a piston AR, I would go with an LWRCI! Got five of them. No issues whatsoever!
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
lwrc raking in the contracts because they are so good!
@HonorJackson247
@HonorJackson247 5 ай бұрын
An MR546 upper is like $1400 from HK directly. Even cheaper and on sale at other stores very often. A HK upper also comes with a HK buffer and spring and it has a muzzle device and handguard unlike the BRN. The HK upper makes way more sense than this unless you're wanting a short barrel and don't want to change it yourself.
@andrewpinheiro7202
@andrewpinheiro7202 5 ай бұрын
1,000 + RPS is ridiculous rate of fire for 556. Carbine .
@krisrhebergen
@krisrhebergen 5 ай бұрын
It’s wild, my experience shows there is a huge variation in rates between rifles. Probably due to some people not cleaning as well as others. But it’s a wild feeling burping through mags like nothing. I personally preferred the m16.
@WiIdbiII
@WiIdbiII 5 ай бұрын
Hello Chris. Is that an AAC blackout muzzle device ? Those things have become kinda rare. I got a few way back then , but i don't see them pop up too often.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
No, its a SilencerCo ASR muzzle device
@WiIdbiII
@WiIdbiII 5 ай бұрын
@@SmallArmsSolutions oh , I see. . Thank you.
@buck.99
@buck.99 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure when you recorded the his but HK just released a limited run of M27 “tribute” rifles with no information on barrel construction and they don’t seem to have a bayonet lug almost $5k.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
I don’t have info on that yet
@aaronfarnsworth7653
@aaronfarnsworth7653 5 ай бұрын
That barely mentioned and briefly offered Davidsons exclusive MR762A1 was $4450. I think the Haenel CR223 is better than what HK is selling us.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
No way I could get a limited run gun from HK to review unfortunately
@Chadh-e6h
@Chadh-e6h 8 күн бұрын
Can you tell me if a frt system will work with this upper
@crackbot
@crackbot 5 ай бұрын
i was wondering when we would get your take on the 416 we have at home. i've been loving mine so far, and hope to take it to a 3day course soon and stretch it's legs out. any plans on looking into the PSA M110 clone?
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
face the wall
@spd579
@spd579 5 ай бұрын
It doesn't use the HK or HK style of buffer to prevent the lower receiver extension from getting pounded on during firing?
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Actually if the receivers are made correctly, when you close the upper. The tail of the bolt carrier pushed the buffer in far enough it never comes in contact with the retainer pin.
@crashdsnowman1
@crashdsnowman1 5 ай бұрын
A not so close copy of a 416, quality control is a big part of being an HK.
@Ostenjager
@Ostenjager 5 ай бұрын
My problem with piston ARs compared to DI guns is heat distribution. When you fire a lot of rounds quickly, piston guns will get really hot at the gas port, even though the action remains cool. That sounds great until you consider that ALL the heat which would normally distribute throughout a DI system gets contained in one place. I can’t imagine that’s good for the metallurgy of the barrel and gas block. At least in a DI gun, that heat is distributed throughout, and partly expelled through the action. DI guns get hot too, but it’s different with a piston gun. I’m not a fan.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
The bolt on an internal piston would never get hot enough to damage the components of the bolt. Heat in the carrier argument is mute. The rifle would have blown long before the springs and components would hit any transformation temperatures.
@rustys.1070
@rustys.1070 2 ай бұрын
The entire gun gets hot vs the part that's supposed to get hot, gets hot. astounding
@dynosaur5291
@dynosaur5291 5 ай бұрын
What happens if you use an actual 416 gas block on the Brownell's barrels? Does it go right back to being over gassed? Also is the port size on the barrel the same as the original 416?
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Nothing, the gas port on the barrel determines the flow
@dynosaur5291
@dynosaur5291 5 ай бұрын
@@SmallArmsSolutions Thank you for that information.
@me2ontube
@me2ontube 5 ай бұрын
Why'd I wait so long to watch this - great video as always
@rickmartin9420
@rickmartin9420 5 ай бұрын
I wish PSA would make one of these, as they should have the ability to bring the hammer forged barrel and forged upper (rather than billet) to market. That they have not attempted it makes me think it's difficult to pull off. So good job to Brownell's for at least bringing us the look and the operating system.
@echodelta2172
@echodelta2172 5 ай бұрын
lmao
@YTIsRanByFeds
@YTIsRanByFeds 5 ай бұрын
0:40= your average cloner
@Andrew-ql1cz
@Andrew-ql1cz 5 ай бұрын
Is the BRN4 BCG full auto profile? Or is the version with the slot cut on the left side a semi profile?
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
It’s full auto profile
@Andrew-ql1cz
@Andrew-ql1cz 4 ай бұрын
@@SmallArmsSolutions Thanks
@smithandshortdogs
@smithandshortdogs 5 ай бұрын
BRN-4 is available chrome lined 4 $100 more than the regular version. They are also available in different lengths to the non chromed version.
@q-man762
@q-man762 5 ай бұрын
What does it do that any quality ar 15 won't do?
@russellmurphy1359
@russellmurphy1359 5 ай бұрын
Does the gas block come with a vent hole on these?
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Yes, same as HK, in the front of the gas block
@TheOtherFagola
@TheOtherFagola 5 ай бұрын
You mentioned HK used unobtainium French made barrels for their 416s. I was wondering if you could do a video on that. I’m very curious about that. Side note: I wish Brownells/Faxon still made the government profile barrels. I was lucky that I got the earlier nitride ones but I would like it to be chrome-hammer forged.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
You never know what Brownells may come up with
@bradborgelt60
@bradborgelt60 5 ай бұрын
French Machine gun steel is a fable of FN and their magical french sources of steel they use in their CHF processing in their machine gun barrels. I yet to see any proof it's any better.
@TheOtherFagola
@TheOtherFagola 5 ай бұрын
@bradborgelt60 Base on a few minutes of snooping around it looks like the only way we’re gonna find out if it’s true or not is with a long, multi year review to see which barrel lasts longer and then a burn down test with FN’s magic barrel vs a normal cold hammer forged, chrome-lined barrel. Maybe see if Iraqveteran js up to it. Didn’t find any mention of French though, probably gotta dig more.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Me neither
@kratzlaff308
@kratzlaff308 5 ай бұрын
Search for Aubert & Duval GHK
@timewave02012
@timewave02012 5 ай бұрын
The Specter DR isn't that heavy. When you compare it to another optic, you have to include a QD mount for a fair comparison.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
It’s heavy for what it is. Not knocking it. I used one for a deployment and enjoyed it, but it is kinda heavy.
@timewave02012
@timewave02012 5 ай бұрын
​@@darklyripley6138 What's lighter? Not an LPVO once you add a QD mount. ACOG with RMR should be. Are there any other options?
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
@@timewave02012 There’s plenty of scopes that weight 23 ounces of less that have better features that an Elcan.
@timewave02012
@timewave02012 5 ай бұрын
@@darklyripley6138 They need to weigh more like 15oz to compete with the Elcan, because the Elcan weight includes the mount.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 5 ай бұрын
@@timewave02012 The Elcan weight about 22 ounces. The Trijicon VCOG weighs 23 ounces. Primary Arms SLX is about 21 ounces. You can get a ton of 1-6 or even 1-8’s that weigh about the same, if not less than the Elcan. And that isn’t including Prism scopes that weigh nothing. The Elcan isn’t a bad scope. But for what it offers, it’s just a bit heavy.
@EDOGZ818
@EDOGZ818 5 ай бұрын
@SAS - Isn't the OPS - 416 conversion kit essentially a 416?
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
No, the piston system is diffrent
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 5 ай бұрын
What Can The HK-416 Do That The M-16A4 Can’t Already Do Better ? Chris 😮😇
@genomk1830
@genomk1830 5 ай бұрын
It runs with a suppressor super clean, and it doesn’t speed up the bolt carrier cyclic speed like a standard m4-m16. if you’ve ever fired suppressor on a direct impingement M4 vs piston, the difference is night and day. Carbon fowling doesn’t travel hardly at all to the bolt carrier group and the action. Hence, why the Marines use them m27. Also much more resilient in and out of water conditions (won’t blow up in your face coming out of the water). A large majority of SOCOM use these as well, depending on the mission set.
@UndertheTreesPNW
@UndertheTreesPNW 5 ай бұрын
​@@genomk1830mine is very dirty suppressed and runs faster with a can as 9 hole reviews showed in their surefire RC2 vs RC3 video
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 2 ай бұрын
@@genomk1830 Shhhhhh, dude you can't say that in a comment seciton full of DI AR-15 fanboys!
@frankrizzo454
@frankrizzo454 5 ай бұрын
I've got a john wick Coharie Arms 416 upper and it's over gassed too
@mattottie6410
@mattottie6410 5 ай бұрын
H&K over engineering and to expensive, who needs that, buy American , but nice to see Brownells is making this available to us...
@bananawatch8158
@bananawatch8158 5 ай бұрын
The recoil on that Gun looked rough. A regular AR doesn’t seem nearly as bad
@marshalllapenta7656
@marshalllapenta7656 4 ай бұрын
Question? Perhaps this is just a cheaper version of the HK, BROWNELL'S take. Is there similarities with the SIG 516? If a rifle is over gassed as opposed to under gassed does that mean the reliability goes up? Is there a M4 or a AR 15 manufacturer that shoots a 2 round burst?
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 4 ай бұрын
Cost is a very subjective topic. How much does something cost to make vs how much markup one puts on it. The Brownells is a refined version which has has same benefits of the HK system. Using the cold hammer forged barrels, i dont think you will find much difference in performance between the HK and the Brownells. The one I tested, worked wonderfully. You can see the proper ejection pattern, how controllable it was on full auto and how accurate.
@marshalllapenta7656
@marshalllapenta7656 4 ай бұрын
@@SmallArmsSolutions OK I watched your DOWNFALL OF COLT video, couple of questions? Was there nepotism displayed at COLT? Perhaps there were some VULTURE CAPITALISTS that wanted to BLEED COLT for the $$$$. I got a worse story for you the DOWNFALL OF GM!!
@Agent77X
@Agent77X 4 ай бұрын
Are the Marine still carrying the H&Ks?
@cripplehawk
@cripplehawk 5 ай бұрын
I'll just stick with my Custom Sterling Arsenal XV mod 3 with a 16inch Noveske CHF Barrel.
@tacticplanner7188
@tacticplanner7188 5 ай бұрын
This gun reminds me of the t4 by Titan Defense out of Utah that was taken out of existence because of patent infringement on the 416.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
What patents are being infringed?
@tacticplanner7188
@tacticplanner7188 5 ай бұрын
@SmallArmsSolutions This was about 10 years ago, and the piston and other parts were in question. When I talked to a representative of the company, it was not clear to me if it was patent or mismanagement that caused the company to fail.
@SmallArmsSolutions
@SmallArmsSolutions 5 ай бұрын
There are no patents being infringed. Those patents for the gas system are done. That’s the G36 gas patent which predates the 416.
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