Browns or Raiders: Who’s the WORST Drafting Team Ever?

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Since the Cleveland Browns returned to the NFL in 1999 they have been terrible in the Draft. The Raiders in Las Vegas or Oakland have been equally abysmal at drafting, but is one team worse? From Tim Couch to Jamarcu Russell to Baker Mayfield & Derek Carr we break it all down.
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@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports Жыл бұрын
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@HenryDaNinth
@HenryDaNinth Жыл бұрын
Can confirm the lawn mower 4.0 is the best wingman this side of the Mississippi. Shave to save
@BumGodinez
@BumGodinez Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Raiders to sweep you guys again lol
@HenryDaNinth
@HenryDaNinth Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Josh McDaniels to creatively blow a game
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet Жыл бұрын
I'll never forgive the Browns for passing on Brady. They could have destroyed his career and saved me a lot of headaches.
@bigfootwalker5399
@bigfootwalker5399 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@ben-manvibing162
@ben-manvibing162 Жыл бұрын
Bruh 😂😂
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports Жыл бұрын
100%
@dirk61
@dirk61 Жыл бұрын
You're obviously not a Browns fan. If they'd have drafted Brady, he would have been traded before he even played a snap. Bank it.
@hankfairchild7951
@hankfairchild7951 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of ball checking...
@ganjatrooper7193
@ganjatrooper7193 Жыл бұрын
Jamarcus ''I watched all the tapes coach'' Russell alone will put us in the top spot for many years to come.
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 9 ай бұрын
JaMarcus "I watched all the tapes" Russell vs Johnny "0.0 Hours on his Tablet" Manziel
@jonnycat529
@jonnycat529 Жыл бұрын
Hue Jackson coaching both teams seems like a deciding factor.
@243Abolerz
@243Abolerz Жыл бұрын
You know he wasn't so bad as a Raiders coach. He was a great offensive coordinator in 2010 and led a top 10 offense with Jason Campbell as QB1 and Darius Heyward Bey as WR1. The team was one decent defensive player from definitive playoff contention
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports Жыл бұрын
Lol
@jca4la
@jca4la Жыл бұрын
Jackson was a good assistant who defined the Peter Principle when promoted to HC.
@jonnycat529
@jonnycat529 Жыл бұрын
@@243Abolerz They had a very healthy Darren McFadden playing against a weak AFC West.
@iwasanisland5844
@iwasanisland5844 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some day Cleveland can rebrand as Birds. Just so you can hate on them more.
@meejinhuang
@meejinhuang Жыл бұрын
The Lions were terrible until recently. They kept drafting TEs in the 1st round that they eventually get rid of.
@Younima4
@Younima4 Жыл бұрын
Ok, but we're those TE's awful? From the top of my head, I can only name a couple bad Lions draft picks from the 2010's-2020's (TE included). Nick Fairley, Eric Ebron, Laken Tomlinson, Jarrod Davis, and more recently, Jeff Okudah. I'm not including Riley Reiff, Ezekiel Ansah, nor TJ Hockenson because they've either been solid starters or pro bowlers with the Lions. 2nd round picks aren't included.
@jakew3495
@jakew3495 Жыл бұрын
ebron lmao
@ianL-S
@ianL-S Жыл бұрын
@@Younima4 brandon pettigrew was a top draft pick too iirc and he is most well known for the being the victim of the picked up flag in the lions cowboys playoff game fuck dallas btw
@SteeleZack
@SteeleZack Жыл бұрын
Matt Millen 's tenure as Detroit's GM included 3 straight 1st round picks(2003-05) used on WRs.
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 Жыл бұрын
It always felt to me as if the Lions thought that "no matter who we have on the team, no matter how many star players we have, we will still sell the same number of player jerseys to fans. So Why Draft other star players?" That's the way it always _seemed_ anyway.
@conman1495
@conman1495 Жыл бұрын
The Raiders are so bad at drafting that they had the pick just before a future Hall of Famer 4 times in a span of 5 years: Ed Reed, Larry Fitzgerald, Aaron Rodgers and Calvin Johnson. That is just unbelievable to imagine all those players being on the same team.
@gwareb8842
@gwareb8842 Жыл бұрын
That's why I think the draft is scripted because no one can be that dumb...that's like someone giving you the winning numbers to the lottery ticket and saying nah I'm going with my numbers.
@ahuxley123
@ahuxley123 10 ай бұрын
That's the worst thing you can do, could've should've would've. So if Marino went to the Steelers, would he have been as good? Rodgers to the Raiders or Calvin Johnson? Jerome Bettis doesn't get traded to the Steelers and the Rams don't pick Lawrence Phillips? Smh, so if you did marry and divorce your first wife but met your 2nd to have kids, would you be crying about that to?
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 9 ай бұрын
​@gwareb8842 there's the simple fact that almost no one is a solid choice or has a known outcome for their career development coming into the draft.
@TrillVilla5
@TrillVilla5 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Browns decided to trade back from 6th overall in 2011 letting the Falcons draft Julio Jones.
@kiaadams104
@kiaadams104 Жыл бұрын
Don't bring that up. Thanks. Go Browns...😢🤎🧡🤎
@jediknightmark3599
@jediknightmark3599 Жыл бұрын
As a lifelong Browns fan I know it's hard keep track of all the stupid decisions. Cut the guy some slack.
@weregretohio7728
@weregretohio7728 Жыл бұрын
One knew at the time that Julio Jones was going to be something... but it was probably fine given the Browns were an awful team and therefore didn't get a chance to ruin his career too.
@adamdobrowolski2510
@adamdobrowolski2510 Жыл бұрын
Browns got Pick 27*, 59, 124 and a 2012 1st and 4th for that. They... - Used picks 27 and 70 to trade up to 21 to get Phil Taylor - Saw the Ravens (who had pick 26 but were late) drafted Jimmy Smith at pick 27 - Saw the Chiefs use pick 70 to draft potential-HOFer Justin Houston - Drafted Greg Little with pick 59 - Drafted Owen Marecic with pick 124 - Drafted the aforementioned Brandon Weeden with the 2012 1st - Use the 2012 4th (along with picks 139 and 211) to move up from pick 4 to pick 3 - Drafted Trent Richardson with pick 3 - Saw the Vikings select pro-bowler Matt Kalil at pick 4 - Saw the Vikings select Jarius Wright with the 2012 4th - Saw the Vikings select Robert Blanton at pick 139 - Saw the Vikings trade pick 211 to the Titans for a 2013 6th, which turned into like four trades... which was highlighted by being involved in the Carson Palmer trade from Oakland to Arizona (here's your shoutout of incompetence, Raiders fans!) Ok, maybe it fizzled a bit at the end, but it's save to say the Browns somehow turned "good draft capital" into draft disaster after disaster while two HOFers, a Pro Bowler and two more solid guys (Smith, Wright) went elsewhere with those direct picks.
@reesesander1219
@reesesander1219 Жыл бұрын
I went to Gustavus Adolphus College and I never knew that a NFL team was dumb enough to draft one of our players. It's a division three school
@skillganon606
@skillganon606 8 ай бұрын
Please tell me the team name is the Lions.
@Tweezawed
@Tweezawed 3 ай бұрын
@@skillganon606 Sadly they apparently are named the Gusties
@nicholasruhling6429
@nicholasruhling6429 Жыл бұрын
*Raiders players keep getting DUIs* Mark Davis: "We need to move this team to Las Vegas. That'll fix it"
@dominicpancella3012
@dominicpancella3012 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it had the opposite effect, as a law was passed in CA decriminalizing DUIs for BACs less than 0.950. Too bad the Raiders didn't stick around
@dominicpancella3012
@dominicpancella3012 Жыл бұрын
@@ROB-cj4kq I hope you realize this was a joke, based on the real law involving thefts of property worth less than $950
@minecraftjunky2001
@minecraftjunky2001 Жыл бұрын
​@@dominicpancella3012 To be fair, it is California we're talking about here
@RatedRMario21
@RatedRMario21 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that the Browns were so smitten with 34 year old QB Jeff Garcia that they felt no need to draft Findlay, Ohio (about 2 hours out of Cleveland) native and Miami of Ohio star QB Ben Roethlisberger who only went to have a 26-2-1 record against said Browns
@youcantseelim1751
@youcantseelim1751 Жыл бұрын
And Big Ben became the most winningest QB in firstsynergy stadium before Mayfield managed to win more games. And yet they still get rid of Mayfield. This is why Brown would never succeed unless they change owner.
@10thletter40
@10thletter40 8 ай бұрын
​@@youcantseelim1751 Mayfield gave them a great season, tore him to shreds, and then tossed him to the side. The Panthers, with three QBs, utterly wasted the guy. Mayfield is an average QB, so treat him like that instead of putting him under your heel
@bryan-still-a-poker-player
@bryan-still-a-poker-player 8 ай бұрын
​@youcantseelim1751 they did change owners tho
@freeziez
@freeziez 6 ай бұрын
considering how much better garcia was outside of the browns I'm not convinced big ben wouldn't just have been wasted in cleveland though
@joedavis5824
@joedavis5824 Жыл бұрын
The year Kansas City beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl, both teams combined had about 10 former browns players, just to show our incompetence as a team.
@Rabdure
@Rabdure 9 ай бұрын
It really just become comical doesn't it? Remember when Jim Brown was like "Trent Richardson fucking sucks" and we drafted him anyway? Good times.
@bulbus7062
@bulbus7062 Жыл бұрын
I miss having Al Davis drafting for the Raiders, he brought such unbridled chaos to Draft Night, you never knew what was going to happen
@henrylam92
@henrylam92 Жыл бұрын
It was all about who had the fastest 40 time 😂
@bluepuma12
@bluepuma12 Жыл бұрын
That guy has been dead for decades.... time to move on
@pangobara8182
@pangobara8182 10 ай бұрын
​@@bluepuma12As much as they're just saying that Al Davis was funny to watch draft, you do know he died in like the 2010s right?
@mycitysucks8096
@mycitysucks8096 10 ай бұрын
​@@bluepuma12decades? Nope
@MrScoareHD
@MrScoareHD Жыл бұрын
What about Browns traded their 12th overall to Texans in 2017 which picked Watson and then 4 years later traded a farm for him
@bigbearkat2010
@bigbearkat2010 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he mentioned all that in the video though I don't think he mentioned they were able to get Denzel Ward in that first trade
@randumo24
@randumo24 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the GM in charge of the draft in 2017 was absolute garbage. On the other hand, the current Browns GM was an assistant at the time and wanted to take him. All you have to know about how bad the GM of the time was, Sashi Brown, is that he drafted god damn DeShone Kizer in the 2nd round when the roster sucked so much ass that it was very obvious that the team would be at the top of the draft next year and in position to draft a QB.
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 9 ай бұрын
​@@bigbearkat2010Denzel Ward was mentioned in the video.
@Rabdure
@Rabdure 9 ай бұрын
We were playing the long game.
@EmmaBonn96
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you neglected to mention Jacobs and Crosby It doesn’t make up for everything but they are good enough to be mentioned
@christophersmith8316
@christophersmith8316 Жыл бұрын
They may be fine players, but if the Raiders "knew" they would be good they should have drafted them higher. It says more about their development of players than draft skills.
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports Жыл бұрын
Crosby us their best pick for sure
@justinmix143
@justinmix143 Жыл бұрын
🤦 Well....I guess you could kinda have something almost resembling a valid point there when you consider that list is so short it would only take 7 syllables to mention it [but you do realize that other (decent) teams can routinely hit on nearly half their picks in a good year, no? And to them, two players in one draft wouldn't be considered that much of a reason to celebrate, let alone a generational happening that's this exceptionally awesome windfall of talent and cause to throw a week long, 24-7 block party compared to their normal draft results?].
@EmmaBonn96
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
@@justinmix143 Did you miss the part where I said it doesn’t make up for everything else?
@justinmix143
@justinmix143 Жыл бұрын
@@EmmaBonn96 nope
@nickmessner700
@nickmessner700 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Maxx Crosby for the Raiders' late round gems. Dude is an animal.
@jca4la
@jca4la Жыл бұрын
As an LA based Ram and recovering Raider fan, I shouldn't like this channel, but I do. In fact, I like it a whole lot. Keep up the great work!
@Klemintine
@Klemintine Жыл бұрын
Loving the more Balls Deep content you’ve been posting recently! I like your normal breakdowns but I feel like with these you get to show your individuality more. Keep up the good work!
@jamesdlin7
@jamesdlin7 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, a lot of the draft busts might have fared significantly better if they weren't in completely dysfunctional franchises like the Raiders and Browns. And all of those HoF players they could have drafted quite likely could have been ruined by the surrounding incompetence.
@edwardsaucedo9223
@edwardsaucedo9223 Жыл бұрын
Is odd how Raiders can sweep Denver after drafting poorly.
@dbcoffman22
@dbcoffman22 Жыл бұрын
Broncos have never beat the Las Vegas Raiders
@ben-manvibing162
@ben-manvibing162 Жыл бұрын
​@@dbcoffman22 it's always a home game whenever the raiders play at mile high. ☠️ ☠️ ☠️
@eugeneflorence4355
@eugeneflorence4355 Жыл бұрын
True, Brandon has failed to mention that
@geoffreysorkin5774
@geoffreysorkin5774 Жыл бұрын
@@ben-manvibing162 And when they play in San Diego/Los Angeles.
@Strami_
@Strami_ Жыл бұрын
Being a Raiders fan is hard 😮‍💨
@curbdoggsports
@curbdoggsports Жыл бұрын
Until broncos week
@Strami_
@Strami_ Жыл бұрын
@@curbdoggsports Trueeeee lmao
@Wyomingchief
@Wyomingchief Жыл бұрын
Oh trust me I feel your pain but I also laughed my ass off because I've been a die-hard CHIEFS fan for 50 years. And that was a rough 50-years let me tell you. Now if you guys suck for another 20 then I'll start feeling bad for you
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 Жыл бұрын
The Browns are worse. The Davises have always had a priority on Keeping the Owner Happy & being too hands-on under Al to having Mark be a too-hands-off figurehead, with winning as a distant 14th priority. The _Browns_ are _TRYING_ to succeed & as such are hilarious.
@Strami_
@Strami_ Жыл бұрын
@@choosecarefully408 oh the Browns are definitely worse. no question. As far as Mark I've liked his approach the last few years. He knows he doesn't know ball like his dad so he just hires people that do know ball and let them work. We just gotta find people that can actually get it done 😅
@Busch22Fan
@Busch22Fan Жыл бұрын
"Trent. Fucking. Richardson. It is TRULY a sight to behold. Like a horrific car crash." Tree, 2017
@christophersmith8316
@christophersmith8316 10 ай бұрын
another point is that this was in the era where teams knew RBs were not worth very high picks, late 1st at best.
@tombratcher6938
@tombratcher6938 Жыл бұрын
It's actually a subtle question: do players suck because bad teams draft them, or do bad teams draft players who suck?
@shawndavis7884
@shawndavis7884 Жыл бұрын
The Browns worst decision ever was when they passed on Big Ben and took Winslow in 2004. That was their biggest mistake ever. I never count any team passing on Brady because every team, including NE, passed on him 6-7 times. But Ben was right there, an Ohio kid no less, and they decided TE was the better route. And he then went on to make their life awful for almost 2 decades.
@UserName-ts3sp
@UserName-ts3sp Жыл бұрын
ya and for years he had more wins than any browns qb in cleveland up til 2021 if im right
@ItsTheeBehr
@ItsTheeBehr 7 ай бұрын
Winslow Jr was considered a great pick at the time, super athletic with good blocking, and had a decent year but it was completely understandable they passed on him.
@michaeldoran4367
@michaeldoran4367 7 ай бұрын
WTF is a Brown? The Cleveland Poopmen
@NotSoKevin1
@NotSoKevin1 Жыл бұрын
As a Steelers fan thank you Browns for letting us have TJ, much appreciated and check is in the mail.
@wilt3051
@wilt3051 Жыл бұрын
see yall in da playoffs
@loromc7
@loromc7 Жыл бұрын
Also for skipping on Big Ben
@AutumnReel4444
@AutumnReel4444 Жыл бұрын
As a Bengals fan, I have really grown to love and appreciate all the football teams in our wonderful AFC North. The Ravens and the Steelers are time honored winners with grit. No I don't think it is weird that we have a 3 team division.
@UserName-ts3sp
@UserName-ts3sp Жыл бұрын
and the browns who for some reason own the bengals
@christophersmith8316
@christophersmith8316 10 ай бұрын
@@UserName-ts3sp its pity, like giving alms to the starving tykes.
@HenryDaNinth
@HenryDaNinth Жыл бұрын
I think it's possible to tack the Bears on there for all their draft whiffs
@K2theG4Evr
@K2theG4Evr Жыл бұрын
I was about to say lol
@weregretohio7728
@weregretohio7728 Жыл бұрын
That Mitch Trubisky move is going to be peak dumbassery for a loooong time.
@HenryDaNinth
@HenryDaNinth Жыл бұрын
@@ELIJAHNUBOYD you smoking on that bhutanese shadow garden pack my boy, take a look at any of my sports related shorts and you'd know I've been slated with the miserable fate of being a Bears fan my whole life
@BobbyVanStone
@BobbyVanStone Жыл бұрын
You put out my favorite sports content to consume, going through a tough time right now and watching your videos brings light to my day, I appreciate ya
@MrBojangles3154
@MrBojangles3154 Жыл бұрын
Fact Check: Both Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson won the NVP before Baker did. In Week 5 2021 for Allen and Week 3 2022 for Jackson.
@monsieurmrfox
@monsieurmrfox Жыл бұрын
I love these Balls Deep episodes, really awesome work!
@kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
@kennethmacgregor-Gregorach Жыл бұрын
i''m really enjoying these balls deep uploads, keep em coming boss!
@TLouie2
@TLouie2 Жыл бұрын
Good work from Tom's assistant.
@kaybevang536
@kaybevang536 Жыл бұрын
I laugh so hard as a kid when the brownies drafted Brandon Weeden it was so hilarious
@Ty-lw8dp
@Ty-lw8dp 10 ай бұрын
25 year old rookie 😂
@aaronclients
@aaronclients Жыл бұрын
I actually played against Ryan hoag when he played at gustavas adolphus. He was a burner for a d3 player
@buchiklop110
@buchiklop110 Жыл бұрын
It's funny since an old clip has been going around about Merrill Hoge talking with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayliss about Johnny Manziel. Hoge said he would be bust and anyone who took him in the first round would regret it heavily, while Skip trumped up Manziel as eventually being better than Brady.
@jca4la
@jca4la Жыл бұрын
Skipper with a bad take? Just another day ending with a "Y".
@wirebug42
@wirebug42 Жыл бұрын
as much as I agree on the utter incompetence of my Raiders during nearly every year's first round, I think you shorted us REALLY hard when you mentioned "later round gems". Including Kirk Morrison means the 3rd round was in play, but no mention of Maxx Crosby?? That was probably our best pick in the entire timeframe this video covered lol. AND Nate Hobbs was a 5th rd pick!! In nooo way do I want to come off as defending the Raiders as some sort of paragon of great drafting. Faaaar from it. I just think our ability to pick the good players of any given class where they *should be* taken is completely FUBAR and has been for decades now. But on the flipside, I'd argue we can, and do, find gems/late round talent at an average-to-above-average rate compared to the rest of the league. The draft is a complete gamble, especially after those first couple rounds, and we have actually won that bet more than I'd expect to. But that gamble is supposed to pay off huge if/when you do hit because, in theory, the first pick or two should be near guaranteed to be pieces that truly build your team. Since we've made a tradition of whiffing on those rounds, our late gems dont actually end up paying off very well, as they just end up needing to fill in for the gaps that should have been stepping stones filled by our early rd guys. Maxx ends up just being what our #4 pick shouldve gotten us, but they picked Cle Ferrel instead Hobbs ends up just being the ONLY good DB on the roster, despite the prior 5(at least) straight high rd picks on DBs like Arnnette, Mullen, Conley, Abram, Joseph, etc.
@243Abolerz
@243Abolerz Жыл бұрын
Because he's a Broncos fan 😂 Maxx and Josh Jacobs gives him nightmares and I can't blame him. Broncos with the #1 run defense? Don't worry. They'll look like a high school defense by the time JJ is done raw dawning Denver. And Mad Maxx? Constantly harassing the QB.
@gwareb8842
@gwareb8842 Жыл бұрын
You know why the raiders never win because any defensive player the raiders draft by mid season every year the raiders have half their team injured and by the time they get back from injury another round of starters get hurt and with no elite QB the raiders never overcome the injuries just watch what happens this year they will be depleted on defense again and the average QB who can't elevate the injuries will win 7 games and here we go again the dense fans will blame the defense but the raiders are smart they keep watching every team in the league slowly but surely get their 1 rd QB and the raiders keep crying defense defense..were stuck as average for many more years to come that obvious.
@skyguy____2835
@skyguy____2835 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the Lions are also up there in terms of worst drafters if you exclude the last couple of years. Brad Holmes has turned it around, but it was really bad for a while (but they have certainly hit on some picks too)
@Rateus_Johanson
@Rateus_Johanson Жыл бұрын
15:10 There's Gabe Jackson again after his accidental cameo on GPS yesterday ;-) Great episode everyone :-) To be fair Phil the Power Taylor has more world titles than Tom Brady.
@brianmack2945
@brianmack2945 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Browns not taking Big Ben, grew up a Browns fan. And then Ben having more wins in Cleveland than any Browns QB until Baker
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad Жыл бұрын
Brandon 'These two teams are never ON the clock but rather off it' Perna
@theaverageDon
@theaverageDon Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, quit using the Cleveland Browns as reason Lamar should get paid
@raphael9783
@raphael9783 Жыл бұрын
Truth, you could just say Lamar deserves it.
@JayJaySprinx
@JayJaySprinx Жыл бұрын
Bottom 5 team that yours hasn't beaten in three years 😉
@CapnJack1
@CapnJack1 8 ай бұрын
relatively new to the channel. the drawn logos crack me up every time
@griffinperley9247
@griffinperley9247 10 ай бұрын
9:15 Russell isn’t the only QB mentioned in the video who didn’t watch any tape
@1AMdoesSomething
@1AMdoesSomething Жыл бұрын
Before watching this video, I’m gonna say the Browns are worse at drafting. Despite the Raiders drafting Jamarcus Russel at one point, they did draft some sort of QB stability in the form of Derek Carr. This is compared to the Browns and their infamously long list of failed QBs. I’ll edit this after watching the vid
@JayJaySprinx
@JayJaySprinx Жыл бұрын
Two major names you failed to mention for the Raiders. Josh Jacobs and Max Crosby.
@asacloutier7530
@asacloutier7530 Жыл бұрын
2 good picks since 2014. Stunning.
@luiscastaneda5250
@luiscastaneda5250 Жыл бұрын
Bro Khalil Mack 😢
@JayJaySprinx
@JayJaySprinx Жыл бұрын
@Luis Castaneda I know. I eas bummed when we lost him. But at the same time, when Carr went down and the season spiraled, he didn't win us anything alone. So to trade him to end up with a franchise record setting RB and to get Maxx out of that domino effect, worth it.
@luxembourginatoraby7571
@luxembourginatoraby7571 Жыл бұрын
There is no chance my college got mentioned @ 4:03 !! I had no idea anyone from here went to the nfl, so cool!
@agave6561
@agave6561 Жыл бұрын
Lifelong raiders fan here: Crosby, Jacobs, Hobbs, Renfrow are literally the only four even halfway decent draft picks we have had in the last 4 years, with two of those years having multiple first round picks from the Mack/Cooper trades(2019 and 2020). Moral of the story: In the last 4 years, it’s not up for debate. No team has even sniffed being as atrocious at drafting and developing players. I hate it here.
@dannyalexander2241
@dannyalexander2241 10 ай бұрын
This…. Is premium content sir 🔥 Enjoyed the hell out of it
@jakew3495
@jakew3495 Жыл бұрын
beautiful video
@corpchairman
@corpchairman Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd hear this channel mention Gustavus Adolphus College for any reason, but here we are (it's a D3 school in southern MN).
@Mik3yLow
@Mik3yLow Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is these two teams have die hard fanbases that will show up to their games no matter what they do. These owners make a ton of money without having to put anything back into the teams
@BrianStDenis-pj1tq
@BrianStDenis-pj1tq Ай бұрын
That is balls deep research to pull that off. Well done.
@daleridgway2461
@daleridgway2461 Жыл бұрын
Love the itysl cameo
@alexgruel9932
@alexgruel9932 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I know it isn't enough to really tip the scales in any way, but Maxx Crosby (4th) not making it to your late round gems for the Raiders seems strange.
@raidersdoom
@raidersdoom Жыл бұрын
He's a bronco fan, can't expect him to offer real analysis.
@brianp6682
@brianp6682 Жыл бұрын
the browns suffer from a total lack of expertise at the ownership, GM, and head coach level for most of the years since 1999. that is simply too much to overcome. they had ONE guy that actually knew football in all of those years, GM john dorsey. im not saying dorsey was perfect, but the overall talent level of the browns was rapidly rising while he was GM. but the rest of the organization didnt know football, and so they ganged up on him and fired him. then they hired yet another rookie GM in berry and yet another rookie coach in stefanski, and the talent level is now in full decline.
@elijahoder3667
@elijahoder3667 Жыл бұрын
Excited for this
@bjchit
@bjchit Жыл бұрын
7:00 It was disgusting how Stillers fans tried to defend that cheap shot. Just as bad was the Browns sending McCoy back in the game when he was clearly out of it.
@rockandmetal4life777
@rockandmetal4life777 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say for the browns in 2018 lamar and allen needed a lot of work and shaping which I dont think the browns were equipped to do
@yoavbeneliyahu6686
@yoavbeneliyahu6686 Жыл бұрын
Especially at quarterback, Drafting in the first round is way different than later rounds. The natural desire to acquire the best available talent can easily turn your attention (as a team with a pick) from aspects of fitting in the scheme and potential to develop, as well as personality. And it looks like some gms know how to deal with this pressure, and some will prefer to get some assets for it. Because a lot of the teams who fail their 1ts rounders still were quite successful with picks from later rounds. Again, i refer to qb's
@youcantseelim1751
@youcantseelim1751 Жыл бұрын
The problem is those idiot dont know how to develop the talents they drafted with high picks. In another universe, I believe if Brown ever draft Mahome, he will be just another mediocre shit. And Mayfield could have win a Super Bowl if he were drafted by the Chief.
@rjakobi
@rjakobi Жыл бұрын
I was going to make fun of the fact you said "VHS tapes" when you meant "DVDs" when referring to JaMarcus Russell, but I too remember VHS tape and am realizing how old I am so I won't.
@db5627
@db5627 Жыл бұрын
Raiders fan here and I approve of this message.
@lydiavalentino
@lydiavalentino Жыл бұрын
Robert Mays and Bill Barnwell just did a great episode of the Athletic Football Show about this
@lrkcm373
@lrkcm373 Жыл бұрын
I surprisingly know of Gustavus, they tried to recruit me back in highschool.
@BlitzTaco
@BlitzTaco Жыл бұрын
I don't know what is more impressive. Browns and Raiders consistently missing on draft picks, or Lions drafting much better comparatively yet still as bad of a team
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman Жыл бұрын
The Lions late round selections would be where the problems really went wrong as unless it was the top 2-3 rounds the barrel was dry for the most part of 20 years of any productivity.
@evanjohnson4176
@evanjohnson4176 Жыл бұрын
Hair is looking great in this video Brandon 👍🏻
@Tommy_Wimmer
@Tommy_Wimmer 7 ай бұрын
Looking back on some of Cleveland's draft picks: Tim Couch lasted five seasons in the league. Courtney Brown was always injured. Gerard Warren started for a decade but was never a star. Kellen Winslow is in prison. Joe Thomas is in the Hall of Fame for playing over 10,000 consecutive snaps. Alex Mack was an All-Pro lineman. Joe Haden was also a good cornerback. Johnny Manziel crashed and burned. Miles Garrett is an elite edge rusher. Baker Mayfield has one last chance to prove himself in Tampa Bay.
@themorningbump8546
@themorningbump8546 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so entertaining funny as well as educational you know your shit bro good job
@kalechipz946
@kalechipz946 Жыл бұрын
My friend goes to Gustavus and I was not expecting to hear a player from a D3 school in this video lmao
@scottcarter8864
@scottcarter8864 Жыл бұрын
Jets: "AHEM!!"
@kauztekgaming
@kauztekgaming 2 ай бұрын
Akili Smith. Bengals passed on trading with the Saints for 9 picks for Ricky Williams. Smith had a grand total of 461 attempts in his career
@jacksonfisher2542
@jacksonfisher2542 8 ай бұрын
Was not ready for an itysl reference lmao
@bdkurnatusmc
@bdkurnatusmc Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see Phil Taylor mentioned on this channel lol
@gavincraig4833
@gavincraig4833 Жыл бұрын
Bro makes Jamarcus Russel sound like Will Levis 😂
@TheStarrySept
@TheStarrySept Жыл бұрын
18:51 is one of the best lines I've heard in a football video lmao
@slaysyu915
@slaysyu915 Жыл бұрын
Hue Jackson with 1 win in 32 AND stated "No one could have done a better job."
@mrsmith1138
@mrsmith1138 Жыл бұрын
I loved that after the 1-15 start, he was asked if they would do that again. He replied he would jump in the lake before going 1-15 again. Technically correct I guess.
@slaysyu915
@slaysyu915 Жыл бұрын
@Mr Smith it's almost like he was TRYING for the perfect season. Perfect 0-16 baby!
@mrsmith1138
@mrsmith1138 Жыл бұрын
@@slaysyu915 it's amazing how we have gone through more owners than the Ravens have gone through coaches. Screw listing all the QB's, I can't even remember all the head coaches we have had since coming back.
@slaysyu915
@slaysyu915 Жыл бұрын
@Mr Smith to such a loyal fan base too. And the way they did Baker was shameful. They really should be embarrassed of themselves.
@haydenperry1859
@haydenperry1859 Жыл бұрын
I have watched you for years and this is the first video of yours that I have ever watched that I would consider not that great
@crushcitykid2363
@crushcitykid2363 Жыл бұрын
Texans also played 32 less games than the raiders. So not sure if they should count as "more wins side 2000"
@foxfire1112
@foxfire1112 Жыл бұрын
As a Raider fan I dont even need to watch to know the answer is the Raiders
@andrewkinkel4773
@andrewkinkel4773 Жыл бұрын
As a Cowboys fan we have drafted awesome and have zero f****** super bowl appearances since then
@CAVEMANsean
@CAVEMANsean Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the statistics say my jets are the worst. We're only not in the conversation right now is because we're only a year removed from probably our best draft in franchise history and followed it up with what looks like a decent draft this year
@MikeSparksMusic
@MikeSparksMusic Жыл бұрын
5:16 Tommy “the Gun” Maddox!
@DoobieKeebler
@DoobieKeebler Жыл бұрын
You misspelled the code for the Manscape Bath Time Toy Submarine. (You added an accidental, extra "G" on the text overlay on the bottom of the screen.)
@screechpryor
@screechpryor Жыл бұрын
And remember is coming from a Broncos fan . The team that sold their soul to get Russell Wilson and now John Elway left
@FatigueZ
@FatigueZ 9 ай бұрын
If we are talking recently, the jets have been pretty bad at drafting. Just gave a 1st round pick a 2nd contract for the first time in 8 years lol, plus like 5 or 6 2nd round receivers that were all busts.
@shortlivedglory3314
@shortlivedglory3314 10 ай бұрын
You've neglected one very real possibility. It may be that these many players who were drafted before Hall-of-Fame-level talent had the same potential as those drafted after them. It may be that the Browns and Raiders do recognize talent just fine, but they also squander it. It may be that some of these draft busts would have had legendary careers if they had only landed on a team that wasn't a dumpster fire.
@sonicsnaxx6315
@sonicsnaxx6315 Жыл бұрын
That footage you show of Mayfield getting arrested looks ALOT like Stetson Bennett trying to QB sneak past the Dallas Cops.
@diegoramirez3211
@diegoramirez3211 9 ай бұрын
9:15, turns out that trick probably would work on Johnny Manziel 💀
@danielzucker7559
@danielzucker7559 7 ай бұрын
Point of clarification: since you talked about the stockpiling of picks the Browns did and showed John Dorsey at the same time, that’s not entirely an accurate fact. Sashi Brown and Podesta were the ones that led the front office to tanking seasons while acquiring draft capital. It wasn’t until they were fired and Dorsey came along that they finally reaped the rewards of that stockpile…. If Sashi were still in charge during the 2018 draft, I think CLE would have drafted Allen or Lamar instead of picking first overall. IMO, Dorsey made solid choices as GM, but in hindsight I think the Browns would have looked a lot more different had Sashi overlooked the 18 draft.
@downtownbrown50
@downtownbrown50 Жыл бұрын
If you include the Matt Millen Era, the Lions have to be the worst.
@itk.r8rsn8k15
@itk.r8rsn8k15 Жыл бұрын
Jamarcus Russel & Ryan Leaf are 1A and 1B
@eugeneflorence4355
@eugeneflorence4355 Жыл бұрын
What about Johnny Manziel? Manziel could give both those picks a run for their money
@itk.r8rsn8k15
@itk.r8rsn8k15 Жыл бұрын
@@eugeneflorence4355 Yeah, except Manziel was drafted 22nd.
@eugeneflorence4355
@eugeneflorence4355 Жыл бұрын
@@itk.r8rsn8k15 Still a 1st round pick and an embarrassment to the franchise.
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 9 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand the draft where the worst team from the previous year has first option on the best players who seemingly have no say where they’ll be playing. How can it not ruin some careers before they even start? From London, UK
@jediknightmark3599
@jediknightmark3599 Жыл бұрын
Minor nitpick: William Green. Another Browns first round pick who underperformed on the field and ended up in all kinds of legal trouble. As a lifelong Browns fan, I enjoyed this trip down misery lane. Thanks Perna.
@sbishop1285
@sbishop1285 Жыл бұрын
The Browns' playoff game was in Pittsburgh, not Cleveland. They have never had a playoff game in Cleveland
@ConradIacobellis
@ConradIacobellis Жыл бұрын
I'm a die hard Raiders fan, we can't draft and we don't know how to evaluate talent. We got lucky with Maxx Crosby. But our entire 2020 draft class was a failure, our 2021 draft isn't looking great, it's just insane how bad Las Vegas/Oakland is at drafting. I feel you could throw a dart on a board and do just as well
@sethmaki1333
@sethmaki1333 Жыл бұрын
A little perspective on Ryan Hoag, a friend of mine earned her law degree from Gustavus Adolphus lol
@larrywastler407
@larrywastler407 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention the Raiders taking Fabian Washington in 2005 1 pick before Green Bay took Aaron Rodgers
@TheeJonJones
@TheeJonJones Жыл бұрын
Alright even though this is basically a roast of the browns and raiders, I really like the fact that you went back in time and gave some real facts about both but specifically my browns! Now I see why we're so bad lol thank you the more you know 😂
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula Жыл бұрын
Only correction needed is Maxx Crosby being left out of the "late round success" section
@Hose4days1
@Hose4days1 9 ай бұрын
Leave joel alone man he was really good for us 😂 Great video
@eugeneflorence4355
@eugeneflorence4355 Жыл бұрын
Brandon is right about Sebastian Janikowski. A lot of people talk about how great he was but I don't remember him hitting any big kicks. I do however remember him missing a lot of big kicks. He had a lot of power but no accuracy.
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