Bruce Pascoe's claims about Indigenous society and history rejected by historian

[@JohnWilliams-iw6oq]

Pascoe knows how to make a quid, he's laughing up his sleeve all the way to the bank and the ABC is his best promoter.

[@jimdavid7710]

Passcode is basically a fraudster

[@ronanrogers4127]

Pascoe should spend a few hours speaking to an anthropologist, I’d suggest any of the research anthropologists at the ANU. Or he might try the original ethnographic works written in the nineteenth century by anthropologists such as Francis Gillen’s and Walter Spencer’s highly regarded “The Native Tribes of Central Australia” published in 1899...original ethnographic research that disproves Pascoe’s fanciful notions.

[@Seagulligus]

You’re a fool if you think anthropologists have credibility. Rather, speak to the people themselves. Aboriginal people. Can you imagine asking a Chinese person the for their professional opinion on what Anglo Australian culture is?? Of course not you’d probably find out directly from the people themselves....

[@Seagulligus]

Absolutely well said. Nearly as bad as having white boy Bolt and Blainey sitting there explaining what Aboriginal culture is!

[@Seagulligus]

@Anton Miles explaining (typo).

[@warwicklewis8735]

@@Seagulligus mythology is not anthropology. Anthropology uses scientific evidence to establish a credible history. Not a bunch of children's fairytales

[@colinflenley8601]

@@Seagulligus what will they tell you? Only the bullshit that’s been told to them by Marxist clowns. I love our aboriginal Australians and all help and assistance should be given, but let’s stop dressing them up as something they are not and never happened.

[@ryanhoskins01]

Bruce Pascoe lives in a fantasy land, but he's not the first and he won't be the last to try and re-write history.

[@M3au]

Pascoe’s next book is about how Aborigines won the space race, instructed Isaac Newton on optics and invented bandaids ...

[@Detroit8V92tta]

Haha! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jtfoto1]

Priceless.

[@rexisnox577]

Um hes just saying they had agriculture

[@M3au]

@@rexisnox577 ... when they didn't

[@lindsayholland2039]

M = Moron 3 = IQ

[@tyjay6885]

we don't want obfuscated history or manipulated one.

[@davidhauser2665]

Captain Cook got his just desserts in Hawaii

[@fredbear-sf9st]

Remember we are talking about a culture that didn’t have wheels, metal tools, a written language until some European people wrote words in English using the Latin alphabet until the early twentieth century. It’s a best guess as to how and what words meant.

[@shanecoble1325]

40,000 yrs and they didn't invent the wheel. Farming and houses unlikely !

[@ShannonCarter55]

I agree and I'm part aboriginal, seventh gen from the last half cast.

[@benjamin4894]

@Timon Nah, who needs the scientific method, modern medicine or a regular food supply! 😉

[@maccart67]

Shane Coble - I believe in free speech so knock yourself out but your comment is dated and used only to put mob down (counterproductive). Many cultures didn't invent the wheel, so what? I'm a proud Blackfulla who's also right leaning. This is just an observation but if we want change, I reckon we all need to step up, grow up, read up or shut the fuck up :) Any condescending reply means nothin, I've heard it all before. Stay safe and well.

[@shanecoble1325]

@@maccart67 I would like to see real change also. I think it is time for indigenous people to stop playing the victim and become survivors. I would like to see all indigenous people get ahead and not be reliant on government welfare, that continues to enslave them. There are disadvantage communities in all races in Australia. Including white folk (Not that I think skin colour should mean anything). I would like the indigenous community to take up all that is on offer to them, usually free or heavily subsidised. They need to get educated and take up business incentives. So they can become politicians, police, business leaders. Standing around in large groups during a pandemic is achieving nothing. If anything it hurts the casue. I don't understand why taking a knee is achieving anything either, only to me looks like they are bowing down to anthems, flags and white man ! You have a good day also. I really am not the racist you might think I am. I have very strong opinions, miss guided at times.

[@maccart67]

@Anton Miles- Agree, no shame. "Who are these other cultures?" Research, it's an interesting read. I actually learnt a few things myself. My point is, people want mob to change, think different yet these same people continue to run mob down regardless if we think different or not. I could say a few choice words and comment about Whitefullas too but I know it doesn't /won't help (counterproductive). But yeah, like I said I believe in free speech so knock yourselves out. Cheers - I'm backing old mate, Professor Blainey.

[@christopheratkins780]

As a proud aboriginal white man with no aboriginal family history I have information that aboriginal invented motorbike and formed Australia first bikie gangs. My book "Dark dog shit" as been picked up by the ABC and will be featured shortly.

[@carolflower8015]

Pascoe missed the ruined medieval castles in the bush - the pyramids , tombs of ancient aboriginal Pharaohs

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

Yes! Not to mention the rocketships and laser beams with ''magic energy'' powerhouses that manufactured vast cities made of crystal and light that floated in the sky.

[@biggusriggus7150]

Nah mate, they had bushfire reduction plans, didn’t ya hear?

[@ronanrogers4127]

Aussie Rules is based on an ancient aboriginal game, don’t you know? (Despite it being well documented that it’s grown from Gaelic football).

[@kooringagnd]

@@ronanrogers4127 actually the roots of Australian rules football is 19th century Association football (soccer) and Rugby football.

[@margyrowland]

Pascoe isn’t I dig indigenous, he is Father Christmas though 🤣

[@davidhauser2665]

Is that the official line from airheads r us?

[@argustuft2394]

In my new book Dusky Wombat I prove that Aboriginal Australians invented the internal combustion engine 400,000 years ago and were the first human beings to step foot on the Moon. Early white Australian explorers were amazed at Aboriginal civilisation's skyscrapers, mass transit systems, coin operated laundromats and electric didgeridoos when they first ventured outside the prison colony in Port Jackson. These undoubted historical facts have been suppressed by the privileged white patriarchal fascist regime that invaded and colonised our advanced nation state. Thanks to the woke ABC and leftist academia for finally putting the historical record straight and teaching the truth to our children. - Argus Tuft is a proud member of the Centrelink tribe.

[@347windsor3]

Thank you Mr Bolt !

[@BrianBellia]

The ABC even had Pascoe preaching on their gardening program - Gardening Australia. 🙄

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

Abo farming methods?

[@donquattrocchi9472]

close ABC

[@kooringagnd]

Australian Bolshevik Corporation.

[@wyattfamily8997]

With an increase of 25% in individuals claiming Aboriginal heritage since the last census, there is plenty more where Bruce came from. Being Aboriginal is financially advantageous in todays Australia.

[@pdenn1s]

The only culture on earth that never figured out how to invent the wheel lol

[@donquattrocchi9472]

you are correct

[@enitorbne]

Not true. Several cultures in North and South America had no need for it either.

[@pdenn1s]

@@enitorbne Well I guess that just means they never invented anything worth attaching it too either I suppose.

[@donquattrocchi9472]

@@enitorbne true.. and both were conquered.

[@stevemogan5384]

Or the bow and arrow.

[@ventura1893]

Above deep creek had been overrun by headhunters below deep creek had lots of pigmy people and peacefully coexisting happily nomadic hunter gathering family groups / if the poms were later the cannibal tribes may have eaten their way south/ the farmers imported ship loads of canibles to work in Cain farms their DNA appears to be in Australian polititions in the way they try to devour each other?

[@davidcleland8457]

I think this interview would have been excellent to have been done with an aboriginal person with real knowledge on the subjects. No disrespect to the professor ❤️

[@colinflenley8601]

What real aboriginal would have real knowledge of any of this? To be horribly honest they had no written language to record events and the only knowledge passed down through generations was of the dream time, which was a way with all primitive peoples of explaining the surrounds and origins of things. Dream time is worth celebrating the rest is just made up shit. The boomerangs for sale was done by a white man, dot painting was taught to them by a Dutch artist and evidence of time in Australia is by carbon dating ground up rocks used for cave paintings, no other evidence exists other than the age of the actual rocks used

[@rivermay109]

I understand why you would say that, but how would that work? They don't know their own history especially when alot of it could have changed. Unfortunately history and culture can be lost. As said previously, there is no written documentation of it. Would be really interesting if there was. ❤

[@oftin_wong]

Not really good on education levels they dont see it as important which is why they stayed largely unchanged for 75000 years

[@davidlillecrapp2960]

I vaguely knew about this man and now I saw this book on our dining table. My son was assigned this book from his grade 6 teacher. I'm about half way through it.

[@genghiskengmail]

What's it like? Is it believable?

[@davidlillecrapp2960]

@@genghiskengmail no . . . no, it's not in any way believable.

[@australian6983]

For the love of God, take him out of that school.

[@davidlillecrapp2960]

@@australian6983 he's out.

[@davidlillecrapp2960]

@@australian6983 also I'm an informed involved conservative father so he'll be right. He's got a good head on him.

[@davidtydeman1434]

We do need to recognise that Aboriginals managed to survive across Australia for 50,000 years. That means that they evolved a lifestyle that was successful based on the limitations of the environment they lived in. With poor soils, uncertain rainfall and no milk producing native species to domesticate the economic costs of planting and tending crops and animal husbandry- what we usually refer to as farming - were too high. In conclusion the aborigines determined the most efficient way of living in a harsh environment and did it successfully for 50,000 years. That is a successful culture and lifestyle. If aborigines had tried to establish fixed settlements they would have failed. Pushing false narratives about Aborigines is unhelpful. Claiming to be someone you’re not is unhelpful. You can study, admire, and learn from aboriginal culture without pretending to be an aboriginal,.

[@henryjanicky4978]

As most of the present days stories about aboriginal, most glorified, gardly truth stories

[@pgstdb]

Who killed off the Australian pygmies?

[@kaosthecosmicreviewer1055]

Down Under Wakanda

[@aussie807]

Worst part is we had an 'elder' come into school and present a talk on this tripe as if it was fact.

[@stephenbachman132]

He is whiter then me.

[@CoreyDavis-vi9di]

This has no significance to Aboriginalality Kidd.

[@stephenbachman132]

@@CoreyDavis-vi9di your uptight attitudes doesn't fly with me. The man in question is not black or aboriginal. He is a fraud an your defence is pointless.

[@claudiusptolemaeus2784]

Bruce Pascoe isn't a historian. He speculates too much and his sources don't always back up his claims. Academic historians haven't been shy on calling attention to his limitations as a scholar. However, Pascoe's more modest claims are backed up by rigorous scholarship - where Pascoe goes too far in his claims that Aboriginal people were farmers, for example, it's worth going back to Bill Gammage to see what he has said. But Gammage writes for other academic historians, not for a general public, and what Pascoe does is make these ideas more accessible. In this sense, Pascoe is no worse than any of the other non-historians who make an attempt at writing history (browse the histories at your local bookshop and you'll see just how many of them are written by people with no formal training as a historian whatsoever). And the underlying ideas aren't that controversial. Humans have been around for around 120,000 years, but intensive agriculture has only been practiced for around 8,000 years. Prior to intensive agriculture, humans cultivated plants, collected and planted seeds, and manipulated their environment to ensure food was consistently obtainable. 'Hunter-gatherers' didn't just gather what was around, they made sure there was always enough of the right plant to gather. Pascoe says Aboriginal Peoples were farmers, and in most contexts this is misleading, but they certainly cultivated plants, engaged in fire-stick farming practices, and used sophisticated techniques to modify their environment in order to achieve food security. But there are still people who will rabidly deny even these modest claims, because they have to insist that Aboriginal People were socially, culturally or racially inferior in order to justify colonisation. Many of these comments have already been made here, under this video. This is, in itself, a political approach, and not one Blainey would condone either.

[@darryl5537]

There needs to be a lot more Indigenous studies at school.

[@pop-4567]

Truthful studies not disrespectful rubbish written by a fake....

[@donquattrocchi9472]

what a stupid idea

[@anthonylynn25]

@@donquattrocchi9472 Why?

[@bryanboulton]

We should learn more from indigenous culture in schools bush tucker and survival and connection to country.

[@davidtydeman1434]

@@pop-4567I agree. The truth about aboriginal society is impressive and worthy of study without about making up stuff.

[@rodmcleod3072]

I have read Dark Emu, it was given as a gift, it is contrived rubbish and I’m glad I didn’t pay for it.

[@oldtimers6460]

Pascoe the Barnum and Bailey of Australia presents the three headed man , the four legged woman and next Bruce all mighty Pascoe turns into and Aboriginal . Pity the Chinese grand fleet did not stop longer but it must nave been intermission in the Bruce all mighty show as they sailed off thinking Australia not worth much to bother with .

[@ivormectin3816]

Pascohontus.

[@gazinta]

I was thinking the Aussies had Warren's brother. His DNA said Donald Trump has more aboriginal blood the he does!

[@Conn30Mtenor]

Put this one with how the ancient Greeks were black Africans.

[@todafett5865]

That “black” life don’t matter then

[@donquattrocchi9472]

not this shit again

[@gazinta]

Did they invent the wheel, too?

[@bartbug1]

Ask any leftist and they'll say yes along with the ipod.

[@gazinta]

@@bartbug1 in the thumbnail, he's sitting in a large room with a million books. Did he care to open any of them, I'm wondering?

[@elizabethblackwell6242]

I was given a copy of this book not knowing the controversial background and could not get past for the first 15 pages. It's like a fantasy novel. The Forrest brothers described the aborigines as nomads with no permanent housing. They were quite explicit.

[@maitlandslater4854]

xi jiping is bruce pascoe's close relative,according to this young chinese student i know. he must be correct because he is chinese and he has a university degree an i dint got one.... i think the nice young chinese student's name was som wan, or something like that.

[@anthonywhelan5419]

BP is an excellent BS sandwich maker.

[@brucemackinnon6707]

There was not much noble about the aboriginal way of life. Frequent internecine violence, mainly over women.

[@cliffwestnidge6604]

I've always been a follower of the ABC but I'm finding it harder to do these days.I think the management of the ABC should be made to answer critics in a more public way on subjects such as this

[@wyattfamily8997]

Let the Miniater for Communications know your concerns, [e-mail] the more often the better.

[@peterbrooks7151]

I've classified "Dark Emu" as a very small ripping yarn/story; certainly not truth-telling. Hmmm, I accept that 'ripping' might elevate it more then it deserves.

[@fredbear-sf9st]

Those at the ABC couldn’t tie shoe laces without instructions.

[@graemehanigan1196]

The predicted response from the Murdoch Propaganda Mill!

[@ANTICARBONTAX]

Great then you won't any issue proving it wrong right?? Please provide the name of his Aboriginal ancestor?? Ill wait

[@anthonythistle1465]

Information about aboriginal culture was there before Murdoch, you need to stop lying and deceiving yourself.

[@wyattfamily8997]

Check your medications when you wake up.

[@Koala63211]

40,000 years in this Country and the best thing they could invent was a stick. Don't think they were farmers, housebuilders and townspeople.

[@gracet7159]

The Aboriginal people were skilled weavers !

[@Brett.Crealy-kh1sk]

All Bruce has to do is get an ancestry DNA kit, spit into the tube, and they'll provide the results, then Mr Pascoe can display the evidence of his aboriginality! Easy peasy! 😁

[@emilioqunt6727]

The ignorance and racism that passes for 'journalism' at newscorpse is not suprising in the least, neither is the degeneracy in the comments section. Thanks for giving Pascoe more publicity!

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

I wrote this below because my Koori friend is called Douglas Angus McGrady, His mum was full blood and his dad was obviously scottish but does that mean he is half Aboriginal? If you have an indigenous Grandmother you are Aboriginal, we introduced them to racism because there were no concept of race in Australia before 1788.

[@jondoealoe]

I didn't hear a critique on the best part of Dark Emu. How many people does it take to till soil so deep that you can't walk in it all the way to the horizon? How long did it take them? Where did they live?

[@L_MindBody]

Pascoe is a conspiracy theorist -oh sorry, that's only for people that tell the truth.

[@jasonmckay8793]

Well they did have houses/huts and did a type of farming its not same straight lines and plows as traditional farming but they had fish farms and they manipulated the landscape with fire in such a way you could call it farming. Its more than possible that they had meeting grounds with permanent structures, that housed more than a thousand people. Lets be realistic something like 90 percent of all aboriginals died with the plagues and frontier wars we just wouldn't know what they were doing and not doing. imagine 90 perecnt of the people u know get sick and die there land stolen their children stolen how much is going be left?. To say categorically that a thing never happened is dumb.

[@warwicklewis8735]

Every point you make is based on nothing but idle speculation and feelgood fantasy. 1) They lived as nomadic hunter gatherers building short term shelters at seasonal camp sites....not permanent houses or huts. 2) Harvesting wild grasses is the very definition of hunter GATHERER....farming requires that you nurture your crops not just rely on natural growth. 3) Trapping wild eels is also by definition HUNTING...not aquaculture. 4) If there were "meeting grounds that housed a thousand people" where are they ?.?..surely there would be some ruins left. 5) Small pox has a fatality rate of 30% it spread quite slowly due to the isolation and insular nature of indigenous Australians.....at no point did anywhere near "90%" of aboriginals die. 6) The process of less advanced people being driven away by more advanced cultures has always happened....even here in pre colonial Australia. 7) Children were taken in order to be given an education and a productive future an act of charity and concern for them....the vision was that these children would be given the skills necessary to provide for themselves in the modern world. These children grew to be the most well adjusted best educated and healthiest generation of aboriginals ever...a standard that has continued to decline since then. 8) To say something happened just because you like the thought of it is to live in a world of make believe.

[@warwicklewis8735]

@@mattniven6380 i am sorry to hear that you have suffered. My father was taken from his mother as a baby and had issues arising from this. At that time is was common to take children from families that were unable to provide adequate care (in the opinion of the church). This was done with the best of intentions and was not based on race but on poverty. It was intended to give disadvantaged children a better chance in life (in the case of single mothers I think it also was intended to give the woman a chance at finding a husband.). From the perspective of that era it was an act of mercy to take these children out of poverty and give them an education. The standard of the day expected that unemployed and uneducated parents were not in a position to properly care for children. Remember this was a time when no welfare existed. Children born to poor parents could be starved neglected or abused. Often young children were forced to work or worse in order to survive. Today the opposite approach is regularly found to have left children in the most appalling circumstances. Physical mental and sexual abuse are often ignored by authorities until it is to late. High rates of mental illness and suicide are testament to the toll this modern approach is having in some communities. Low attendance rates at school and the revolving door of welfare dependence contribute further to the unhappy lives of many. Who is it who chooses the balance. At what point does the trauma of separation outweigh the trauma of abuse ?? What level of risk to a child's well-being is acceptable ?? There is a book called "The Baby Farmers". And a documentary called "The Leaving of Liverpool". These are honest accounts of the prevailing conditions of that era.

[@warwicklewis8735]

@@mattniven6380 "taught to think like a white person" ?? Are you saying only white people are educated ?? Only white people benefit from the advancement of knowledge ?? Or is it the old "white man's burden" that only white men need jobs ?? This attitude is self defeatist and quite frankly racist...the racism of low expectations. The lives of children left in the care of abusive parents or in communities that have massive substance abuse problems are also being ruined. When young children are regularly committing suicide. In communities where a child is more likely to go to jail than to find a job. I would judge those as lives ruined. It would appear that the alternative being offered is no better than that which was in place. In fact the statistics clearly show a decline since the welfare system replaced the institutional education system. There was issues with abuse in the institutions. But there is issues with abuse within the community and even many families. The problems with institutions have been acknowledged and largely addressed. When are indigenous Australians going to acknowledge the problems within their own communities ?? The first step to solving a problem is to admit you have one.

[@anthonythistle1465]

@@mattniven6380 Children and women in aboriginal cultures were often neglected and abused by aboriginal men. Convicts and early settlers had been influenced by Christianity to care for those people . The idea of the stolen generation is not entirely accurate and aboriginal people would testify to that.

[@Suth1172]

Bolt just can't stand the idea that Aboriginal people aren't the savages he imagines in his mind.

[@MrMattias87]

in what way has he insinuated that in this video?

[@harryfromaustralia657]

Whats the matter? Cant handle that aboriginals didnt invent democracy? For someone who lacks the ability to have a thought process its amazing how you can imagine what other people are imagining! At what point is it suggested that thats what bolt thinks? Or is it just what YOU think?? Idiot

[@bartbug1]

Hardly savages, but they weren't bloody farmers, inventors of democracy nor the wheel. The were very primitive, so just get over it and read the factual evidence. Next you'll be saying they invented the internal combustion engine.

[@oftin_wong]

Payback was a cultural certainty

[@anthonythistle1465]

They were very violent to each other within their tribes and with other tribes. They also had a very ugly practice called pointing the bone. Lying about all this does the aboriginal people of today no good.

[@brucemackinnon6707]

Hunters and gatherers can have temporary meetings of larger numbers for a few days, but there is little or no food to support them in the local area that will last, at all.

[@tonybuckley950]

I am glad I went to University and got my degree and diploma when Australian Universities were still worth a damn. I find it easy to ignore begging letters.

[@aib0160]

They were at the stage where the Europeans were in the Mesolithic 10,000 - 6,500 BC.

[@benkincaid4972]

This guy is not a journalist

[@warwicklewis8735]

And Pascoe is neither aboriginal nor a historian.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Australia has an Elizabeth Fauxahantas Warren Aboriginal? Ahhhhahahaha!

[@jerrywong5960]

The fact should matter. Students go to universities to study facts, not fantasies

[@less2243]

just reading previous comments and thinking all these sweet people deep inside have so much envy, but why? Why is it bad to believe that these first people were agricultural? How does this beautiful belief could hurt one´s ego, thus appearing salty and quite blunt in their expression? One singular focus makes you blind of the greater context for sure. I am also a human being and quite happy to know that there were people who successfully farmed the land on whatever part there is.

[@Ed_Downunder]

Peer review is the best test. Peer review is not the same as a book review. As professor Blainey pointed out, he is the author of a good read. However, he will continue to be subject to peer review and called out as a fake historian, whilst others will claim Pascoe to be an excellent storyteller. An interesting conundrum. As a historian, he is a fake and a liar, as an author or storyteller he is celebrated as an entertainer.

[@dannilsson9461]

Pascoe identifies as aboriginal how dare we say hes not.

[@rivermay109]

I'm not sure if you are joking or not but if someone is making unsupported claims about a culture and they claim to be from that culture to get more credibility, don't you think that's an issue? Not only that, I'm not sure where you come from but indigenous Australians actually get benefits and special treatment specifically for them. Imagine if he was claiming those benefits while a disadvantaged indigenous persons missed out?

[@PatriciaAnneSmith-x2e]

To Davidcleland, the aboriginal people had no written language, therefore how can they tell us about their history? Yes they had stories from their ancestors, but we all know how anyone can change word of mouth very easily. I’d take the written word either by Historians or explorers over the dreaming stories any day. The early settlers, particularly the heads of government, had written proof because they had to keep logs and send reports to England on a regular basis.

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

Were backed by first contact written accounts.

[@andrewnewman1248]

If Pascoe had any initials after his name it would be. Bruce Pascoe Bs

[@jameswhite7693]

It was an abo who discovered electricity, he put his finger in a power point.

[@brucemackinnon6707]

No justification then, none now. Look at aboriginal communities. Garden for food? What's that?

[@dougspray7160]

Surely the Aboriginal way of life before we Europeans arrived was happier for them than the majority of Europeans brutal life style. Imprisonment for small crimes, poor housing and diet, capital punishment, workhouses, appalling work conditions etc To say we came to civilise them is absurd as we all well know from masacres and the way they were treated as inferior beings by the brutal early British arrivals.

[@AReyz-kg4oq]

I am a white aboriginal.. Clearly Pascoe has some lineage.. One look will tell you that.. They had agriculture everything .. This historian is a blatant liar. They had 500 nations and couldnt cross each others land.. How could they be nomadic.. You ppl are ridiculous. Sydney was a major hub and there is remnants of a shell cottage STILL THERE TODAY!.. Even the masons admit they needed to communicate thru masonic hand gestures before they could establish language.

[@Detroit8V92tta]

Is that you Joe Biden?

[@brookemckenzie4844]

🤣😂🖕🏻

[@AReyz-kg4oq]

@Michael Prus Obviously your not gonna get led to a burial ground.. One is under Queen Victoria markets actually.. You idiots know nothing of the history of this country, you were never taught.. right? and FUCK BIDEN.. TRUMP 2020

[@AReyz-kg4oq]

@@brookemckenzie4844 Native cultures created government.. Had the Americans not fought the British we would still be all under kingdom rule and they would have never adapted to self governing culture called TRIBALISM, which was a way to adapt to the millions of natives already occupying the land.. How ass backwards can your brain be?.. Nitwits.

[@angusbull1078]

Bullshit!

[@gilliandarling9239]

Blainey is considered and cautious BUT Bolt has a case to propound, and has tried to use Blainey to support his case by surrounding Blaineys comments with Bolt biases .... Kudos to the Aboriginals who built those World Heritage Listed stone houses in SW Victoria on the Budj Bim Landscape

[@serviusm9523]

The Gunditjmara people? Yeah, have heard they did a few interesting things (e.g. eel traps). Problem is you don't use one people group as the basis for the entire population and it a little disrespectful to the Gunditjmara who actually did it. We don't use Athens as the grounds for how everyone in ancient Greece lived, or the Incas as the basis for the indigenous across Western South America

[@angusbull1078]

Read William Buckley’s journals, lived in Western Vic with Aborigines for 30 years, made no reference to permanent structures, and taught them to make fish traps, as they had no concept. I’ve seen those structures & eel traps, most likely they were assisted by Portuguese sealers who landed on Vic coast well before British, as there were pale skinned people among these tribes.

[@ricaeoops]

@@serviusm9523 Exactly! I just finished a masters unit in Aboriginal history/education and something that came up again and again and again was the fact that each Aboriginal tribe is unique and to NEVER lump Indigenous ways of being and knowing into one all encompassing "Indigenous culture." If that is what Pascoe has done in his book then that is a huge red flag and his Aboriginal identity should indeed be questioned.

[@serviusm9523]

@@ricaeoops it is just disrespectful to lump them all together because they live in Australia and are same ethnic group. We try not to do it to others, e.g. Slavs and Germanic people A true indigenous history book/program would examine each one separately and showcase their culture and history

[@pamelasloan1664]

I noticed his book has been marked down from $35 to $27 still very much over priced particularly for information that is untrue

[@peterdoulgeris1094]

They must of phone the Greeks talk about democracy am Greek i know my history !

[@zacjohnson8404]

5:11 I dunno, maybe lots of people today should just live in hotels

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

Where is Keith Windshuttle Now what historians are following his research and this guy wrote an introductory chapter by looking at a painting of Govener Phillip literally two dimensional not like our first historian Waktin Trench who knew Phillip personally. History is made by good men like Kidman and Ned Kelly.

[@pamelasloan1664]

He can not even prove his indigenous claim

[@lulurosenkrantz3720]

Maybe Pascoe meant fire farming .

[@warwicklewis8735]

Pascoe makes it clear what that he means planting crops....he has deliberately lied. The term "fire farming" is a modern idea invented to obscure the facts. Setting fire to the bush is not farming. Iy is just twisting words to suit a political agenda.

[@lulurosenkrantz3720]

@@warwicklewis8735 I was only being facetious. The reason the top soil in Australia has been ruined is because of thousands of years of environmental vandalism by Aboriginals in the form of ( fire farming ) .

[@warwicklewis8735]

@@lulurosenkrantz3720 sorry it can be hard to spot the sarcasm from amoung the cacophony of mindless bleating.

[@shaneekabatty-cross]

Bs....they didn't and weren't farmers. 😂

[@xaniaschannel4317]

They talk about Aborigines but don’t speak to one Aborigine in this story, they may well have the answer

[@gracet7159]

He looks part Irish and part Scottish

[@iamisaid2295]

he absolutely does.

[@warwicklewis8735]

Actually he is of Cornish and British descent.

[@thomasvudrag8109]

Burke and Wills recorded Aboriginal farms and methods of harvesting including how they stored their grains. Written by Australian Explorers.

[@wazportertv4920]

stick to reviewing whiskey Andrew, anything else is too complicated for you.

[@joshm1884]

Andrew Bolts opinions are empty, he's dedicated his life to being a self-righteous racist out of touch old conservative. Bruce Pascoe Aboriginal or not doesn't change the fact we all live in Australia at the expense of aboriginal people. Bolts poor attempts to fight whatever he's really trying to fight are pointless and will continue to be.

[@gracet7159]

There could have been some Aboriginal people who were farmers. They found fish farms. I saw a photo in Readers Digest of them farming fish in the late 1800 - early 1920's

[@iamisaid2295]

they used to dam up the rivers, at least according to Pascoe.

[@warwicklewis8735]

Building traps to catch fish and eels is not "farming". By the late 1800s they had been in contact with European ideas for over 100 years. In fact by that time many of the aboriginals in south eastern Australia were of mixed European ancestry. Early accounts written about them describe them as "nomadic hunters". No actual eyewitness every mentions any form of agriculture or farming. They do mention weirs used to trap fish and eels.

[@guido1866]

LOL.

[@bushranger7646]

Dark Dodo 🦤

[@Mohonnova]

A scholar and a gentleman delivers the facts.

[@joshm1884]

Lol

[@michaellavings3579]

Yeah this noble savage bs has to stop, they were nomadic hunter gatherers, they didn't live in peace and harmony 😂🤣😂🤣 if one entered the others land without permission he would by speared in the leg, that doesn't sound like harmony to me

[@SaintKimbo]

Agreed, both legs would be much more in harmony.

[@RichardLeviathanOSTARA]

Pascoe’s flaw is to attempt to jettison a certain colonial stereotype that Aboriginal people were primitive and simplistic, a sentiment Bolt and his philistine followers appear to echo - read the comments. The Mayans never used wheels but were advanced. Hopi Indians cultivated the corn crop and used dry farming methods. It is conceivable that while most Australian indigenous tribes would have been so called Hunter gatherers, they took care of the land, knew it’s topography intimately and survived many thousands of years doing so. There is nothing primitive about that and many studies show that Paleo cultures were robust, their dwelling infused with mythical and religious veneration for the universe as well as practical ways to live on earth. Most tribes never moved beyond their own locality and rarely encountered other tribes further afield. Thus there was a lot diversity in language and culture. By relying on British sources, Pascoe limits his horizons but if there is a source, Sturt’s for example, that claimed he saw cakes and grains used to produce them, it is possible that some form of cultivation existed as it is possible that forms of dwelling existed, if not towns. If Pascoe and the ABC have a hidden agenda, never forget Murdoch’s own. It is so blatantly obvious as a global network of journalistic bullying and spurious hyperbolic fear mongering you’d almost believe you were in a Trump rally with Sean Hannity

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

He can't be all aborgini with a name like Bruce he got to have a bit of Pict in him maybe that's why the Britishers fear him.

[@warwicklewis8735]

He actually is entirely English and has no aboriginal blood at all. His family comes from Wales and England. He has faked his ancestry in order to promote his fake claims and sell his fake book. Here is a link that examines his ancestry...australianhistory972829073.wordpress.com/2019/10/23/bruce-pascoe-how-aboriginal-is-he/

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

@@warwicklewis8735 His sources where based on First Contact written accounts so was Frontier Wars which was in response to Keith Windshuttle but all this was written by Settlers ie: Colonisation but you have living Aboriginals that still practice what we would call early Agriculture. I don't know why you bigots (your are attacking his race as if it mattered, to me it obvious he got Tasminain in him) find this so threatening. Cancel Culture you right-winger don't mind destroying other people's culture.

[@warwicklewis8735]

@@brucenenke-vk5nk to take a few selective quotes out of the thousands of eyewitness accounts by the early settlers and ignore all the others that don't agree with a preconcieved ideology is nothing but political manipulation. Bruce deliberate leaves out key phrases and ignores any passage that doesn't suit his narrative. By his own admission he had already made up his mind then went looking for confirmation....this is called confirmation bias. Other historians have studied the same sources and come to a completely different conclusion. Agriculture was not even mentioned by any indigenous people until Pascoe published his book and told them about the idea. David Uniporn who wrote about the mythology of his people and was also interested in improvements to agricultural methods never mentioned any indigenous agriculture. Nor is it painted in any of the thousands of indigenous rock paintings found around the continent. No aboriginals grow their own food crops. They buy the same prepackaged imported processed food from the same supermarket and take away meals from multinational franchises that everyone else eats. There is a huge demand for environmentally friendly crops and native foods....they made them available for general consumption if they are still growing them ??? In fact Bruce Pascoe has been trying to grow native crops for over ten years now and still hasn't been able to produce a viable crop of any significance. His race doesn't matter to me...but his integrity certainly does. The man has been proved to be a charlatan willing to misrepresent his family heritage in order to gain attention. If he can't be trusted to tell the truth about his own family then everything he says must be looked at with suspicion. If his race doesn't matter why is it so important to maintain the lie that he is Tasmanian ?? Especially in light that the Tasmanian indigenous community in has categorically denied that he is connected to them. Having been denied acceptance by the Tasmanians he then claimed to be related to two other seperate indigenous groups the Yuin and the Bunalong. Aboriginal culture has not been destroyed. Far from it. It is protected, encouraged and promoted at every opportunity. Indigenous culture is over represented at every level of public life. Remote aboriginal cultural communities have been supported and preserved. Huge amounts of money are spent on making sure these people have access to amenities while still maintaining their culture. Your delusional belief system relies on misrepresentation subterfuge exaggeration and mindless dogma.

[@warwicklewis8735]

@@brucenenke-vk5nk the link i provided traces all of Bruces family ties back to England. It also provides some photos of his English grandfather who he has inherited his good looks from. How racist of you to assume you can determine a mans ancestry by his appearance.

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

@@warwicklewis8735 Rio Tinto just destroy a 40000 year aboriginal site? There is no point countering all the points you have made. What do you think of Kate Greenville's 'Secret River' where he chose his farm in Spencer because it was on an Aboriginal Yam patch. Fabrication of History?

[@sidheshpatil7120]

I see the history of Australia as a contest of repugnancy between the Indigenous and the English. Early English judges have described the Indigenous as a community of grotesque lifestyle, culture and practices. I often wonder what is so praiseworthy about English ways that have also made their way into contemporary Australia. For example: - This incessant pursuit to seek happiness in observing the results of barbarism. As in the blood laden holy Christ hanging on the crusifix, both inside the church and in public. - The practice of sculpturing and painting graphic image of the diety. - Putting it up for sale for commercial purposes. - Tattooing the diety on sweaty flesh. - Participating in intimate transactions (e.g. sex), whilst carrying tattoos (Holy Christ, Virgin Mary, Crusifix etc) on the flesh. - Partying at the church right before the horrific image of Holy Christ. That's just so grotesque & repugnant. I live here in a town by the Seymour in Victoria. Things that I have witnessed, within the community, amongst the English and at the local church certainly cannot be attributed as humane/fine/considerate etc.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Nothing quite as pleasing as finding the tears of a militant atheist. Pure ambrosia.

[@dieterbarkhoff1328]

Go Andrew: spread hatred and prejudice. It's what you know best.

[@stuartbaanstra8827]

Is this the best Bolt can do? Interview this fossil?