The Urethane SECRET of Pro Bowlers 🤫

[@emdott44]

Been bowling for 17 months (2H Lefty) and I threw my first 300 today, with the Purple Hammer. I thank you for your videos on urethane, as it helped me make my decision last month to use it exclusively, and haven’t regretted it 😁

[@brunsnick]

Awesome! 🙌🏻

[@harveywallbanger2899]

Crutch 🩼

[@jeffs7773]

@@harveywallbanger2899I think you meant to say clutch. Not crutch

[@emdott44]

@@harveywallbanger2899 Lol, I use what works for me.

[@Mityob67]

"Do surface pads need to be banned? I don't know."🤣 -Brunsnick

[@P.vieRa_YT]

Purple urethane has been good even during league. Just important for me to recognize when it’s time to swap and commit to the swap. Normally to a low flare reactive solid - like envy tour

[@athlonen]

That's a good point that I never thought about when it came to urethane.. Back in my teens I did have (and still have) my Fab Hammers.. My Blue is a "light" 16lb.. box weight was 15lb 15oz, while my Blue Pearl was 16lb 5oz. I never thought about it in terms of weight versus carry, but looking back at the last time I threw my Fab Blue (about 10 years ago), it still hit hard. I wonder if it would be worth trying to find a heavier 15lb Black Pearl Urethane..

[@ozziegreene8108]

I have a 1984 Faball Black Hammer that I've been using for years in a 16 pound. Love it! Still has pop.

[@chipwhite7170]

So that explains it, I'm a thumbless 1 hander since 1990 and I throw 16lb stuff and my purple hammer flares like a reactive resin. Thanks Nick!

[@brunsnick]

Yessir! Inherently stronger!

[@MISTA.OATMEAL]

My 78d hooks way too much. I drilled it the weakest layout in the 2ls system. (5½"×5"×2") I throw about 14.5 mph with about 300 rev rate. any suggestions to help me calm the ball down?

[@brunsnick]

@@MISTA.OATMEAL add speed or decrease surface.

[@gety3563]

I’ve been thinking about trying this out. But I’m scared I might mess up my timing switching between 15 and 16 pounds, not sure if I should try this

[@brunsnick]

Take a shot or two to get used to but the idea is to stick with it when you need it.

[@darylw792]

To this day I still use the old Fab Black and Pink Hammers. To give them flare so they are no longer were effected by carry down I put a Mo Hole balance hole in them to create about a two inch flare. I could stay in the same spot all night during leagues. Now with the no balance hole rule I plugged the holes up but they still have flare and do not create carry down problems. I keep them semi polished and they read a house shot very well.

[@GracieGarage]

So, I have the purple, 16 lbs and love it. A few weeks ago I decided to go with a big solid asymmetric, atlas. Folks say they can be similar. Big solid asylums and urethane. From my experiences, no way Jose. You still have to ply the asylum much further down the lane compared to the urethane. I would love to see you shot a video comparing a high sow solid asylum and urethane to see if you experience the same thing. I think I will get the black hammer and experiment with surfaces. My purple I will not touch.

[@brunsnick]

There’s really nothing like a Purple Hammer. You can try and trick resin but it’s still resin

[@GracieGarage]

@@brunsnick That's it! I am motivated for tomorrow night league. Back to bringing my one ball. The purple. And, I am going to drill that pocket all night long!

[@skinniestjeans]

I want a solid asylum cover ball

[@alexanderjacksonbowling300]

Would it be more beneficial to get a 16lb rather than a 15lb if you are more speed dominant like myself?

[@brunsnick]

If you can handle it, yes! It’ll hook more and slow down faster.

[@alexanderjacksonbowling300]

@@brunsnick Thank you again!

[@SteveWalsh-hx3ge]

What I would like to see from the Brunswick side, seeing that you incorporate Columbia as well, is the original black u-dot. Shot my all time high series with it, 300-267-300/867 back in the short oil days (1987). I hear that the retired AMF lines have been incorporated into Brunswick. Meaning the Cobra could be brought back (call it the nu cobra)AND THE ball old AMF that was fantastic was the Purple Angle. Being a PBA50 member, I would like to see urethane sold as maybe nostalgia for the younger kids, but us children of the 1960's. Would love to see some more of the classics return. Just an idea.

[@Kawboy65]

The Black U-Dot was definitely one of the best balls of all time.

[@SteveWalsh-hx3ge]

@@Kawboy65 that and the original black widow. Many honor scores thrown with them.

[@Kawboy65]

@@SteveWalsh-hx3ge Yeah, the original Black Widow was definitely one of those balls that you felt like you were at a disadvantage if you didn't have one in your bag.

[@williammurphy5520]

Nick my question is what ball would you recommend for an older bowler who has a moderate rev rate and is 13 at best speed usually a little under 13. For a bench mark house shot league player. ❤❤❤. Throwing 14 lbs

[@brunsnick]

13 on the scoring monitors? If so, plenty of speed, would probably recommend Effect for asymmetrical and Endeavor/Trouble Maker Pearl for symmetrical options.

[@surfboardshack3327]

Regarding the midlane asym layout the radical site, does that pin down layout actually make the ball rev up earlier? My bowling friends said the pin down layout would make the ball go longer bc the RG goes up 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@brunsnick]

After drilling differential numbers more important than RGs are. Pin down generally will lower flare and make the hook window longer and slower often giving it more continuation through the pins.

[@surfboardshack3327]

@@brunsnick thanks for the explanation. Would you suggest that drilling on something like a mindset for heavy oil or long patterns? Low rev matched

[@brunsnick]

It could work but I don’t know your game or specs to be sure. Sometimes pin down is not great for bowlers with high tracks and low tilt.

[@robertjsissonful]

I am a low Rev older bowler. I currently use a 15lb summit and later in the set, sometimes a 15 lb summit Peak. I will be bowling nationals in Vegas in May.. I'm only a 170 ave. BOWLER so I would like every advantage possible on the sport pattern there. Would the new hammer black pearl at 15 or 16 lbs be a smarter choice & drilled pin up or down? Thanks. Loveur videos. Keep up the great work.

[@brunsnick]

Lower rev I would suggest Purple Hammer. Higher pin layups. Not a good idea to drill symmetrical balls pin down anymore

[@Spanky2404]

On a short pattern, what’s the recommended surface for a urethane?

[@brunsnick]

Depends a lot on your ball speed and rev rate.

[@jefferyboring4410]

I swap from 15-16 during leagues. Why because I don’t have 1000$ to spend on balls I find I pull the 15 from a 16 so I just look a board or two right until I’m square shooting my mark. No big deal. I get more revs with the lighter ball but seems the heavy balls grip more and are slower so they equal out in hook power. But I definitely believe in heavy ball power they just get odd hits better those odd trips . More messengers a few inch further

[@brunsnick]

For urethane especially! Those light off hits have to carry!

[@NVWMONS]

Cool vid. How do we contact BrunsNick?

[@brunsnick]

You’re doing it now.

[@NVWMONS]

@@brunsnick I see a 15 pound single drill Grizz available near me. Want it?

[@brunsnick]

No thank you but thanks for thinking of me.

[@codyromero0504]

I think it would be cool to see a comparison video using one of the new balls with a counterbalance hole and one without. Especially since they made it illegal to use counterbalance holes I would genuinely like to see how much it alters the ball motion down lane.

[@brunsnick]

Did it with illegal rico video.

[@199412valve]

The little bit of extra flare is exactly why I bought the double cross to compliment my purple hammer. Thanks for the video

[@inteRUSSting]

I've been throwing a UC3 for about 16 months and I have hit it with a 1K CTD pad one time, maybe twice? Does make a difference!

[@headzoeable]

Best statement "I'm not a Pro" 😂 keep my purple hammer

[@michaelmorton7912]

I agree the pink stingray was beast. The Ceramic core one that flared was good awful.

[@poodymeiner3125]

Watching this video, it makes me want to go back and order the 16lb 78 iq tour. The ball is awesome, but those sporadic pocket 7-10s would be a bit more sporadic with a 16. Great video

[@Stach23]

This is a little random, but can you please tell me exactly what a "high flush" strike is? Actually, please make a video describing all the slang terms! Like ringing ten, flat ten, light mixer...please! I gotta learn the cool slang!

[@nordattack]

You have said before, you don't clean or resurface your urethane balls, but that 15 lb Black Pearl was deflecting like crazy off the pocket. Even after you hit it with 800 it was still deflecting and laboring to get into a roll. There was just too much oil today on the lane today. As a long time urethane user I can tell you, for house shots, urethane balls need some defined dry to work. Normally in league, if everyone is throwing resin but me, then I will have a great look with urethane because the resin balls are taking oil off the lane, preventing carrydown, or my urethane ball from getting too oil soaked and lubricated. But if multiple people are throwing urethane, a house shot can become a mess very quickly with our urethane balls going longer and longer up the lane before they react. Once that happens even resin balls won't hook. In my experience urethane works best on low to medium volume house shots, but longer, heavier house shots work against urethane unless you can get help from resin players.

[@brunsnick]

Normally I’m further right but I wanted to be in a zone where the 16lb had no issues going flush and the 15lb labored.

[@nordattack]

@@brunsnick Was it simply because the 15 was so lane shined that it labored and the 16 was still rough and dull? The 16 did flare more, but not a ton more like a Black Widow Pink or an Attitude Control would.

[@brunsnick]

Part to do with that plus I throw the 16 about 1/2 mph slower.

[@williammurphy5520]

Nick r u in Muskegon?

[@brunsnick]

Yes that’s where Brunswick HQ is

[@williammurphy5520]

@@brunsnick I have a bowling product upgrade that I make for myself that I think could be a game changer. I’m in Grand Rapids Michigan not far away. Any chance of setting up a meeting so I can pitch it to you guys? I have an idea for your utube channel as well if you’re interested.

[@brunsnick]

No, probably won’t get a meeting just like that. You’d need to let us know what it is and we will let you know if we are interested in hearing more about it. And I’m always up for suggestions for the Channel 👍🏻

[@williammurphy5520]

@@brunsnick it’s not possible for me to just give up my idea it’s to simple and I believe it will make lots of money for whoever brings it to market. I don’t care about getting rich but maybe being a little more comfortable in my retirement couldn’t hurt. I got disabled in a car crash and I was the home caregiver because of that so I’m finding myself at the bottom of social security benefits because I was the house husband and didn’t acquire points towards retirement. Bowl a couple games with me and let’s talk.

[@remington1439]

Hey Nick, I like your show perception and reality and with Rudy Revs coming on the show. This video the secret of the pro’s is going to be cool..

[@brunsnick]

Should be some interesting discussion today all around!

[@alexanderjacksonbowling300]

As someone who doesn’t have very much rev rate, what would be a good option to use? I’ve been looking for urethane or something extremely early and controllable. If there are any recommendations please let me know, thank you very much☺️

[@brunsnick]

Urethane can still be used with success with lower revs. As long as you can get far enough out and create enough entry angle to carry.

[@alexanderjacksonbowling300]

@@brunsnickOk, thank you very much! I appreciate all the help🥳

[@meanboy2000]

I use on 500 on a green pin purple and it shapes on a house shot. 320 on sport

[@daveblake3382]

Id like to see the OG Blue Ebonite Nitro re introduced

[@TuPapaChief]

A must in my bag

[@TheRiffingFatboy]

I've got my dads old 16lbs Roto Grip UC2 from the 80s

[@tbone2104]

I have a Hammer magenta urethane showing up on Monday. Should I have it drilled the same as my other bowling balls? Pin up

[@brunsnick]

Don’t know how you bowl but I can tell you that most people drill them pin up with a pretty strong pin to pap. 3.5-4.5” from pap

[@vance836]

Science is fun, kids sounds like your next t-shirt design.

[@brunsnick]

I did one, but the design I made may never see the light of day. 🤣

[@jamesfriday3716]

Awesome video my friend.

[@williamfreitas7016]

“Oil is a lubricant not a solvent.” Go read the Kegel white papers. Lane oil (conditioner) contains solvents.

[@brunsnick]

While some lane oils do contain solvents at a very minute level, it’s there for oil dispersion and leveling when applied to the lane and will evaporate after application. You are partially correct, but that doesn’t make lane oil a solvent.

[@williamfreitas7016]

@@brunsnick I don’t think the lane conditioner causes the lower readings but this now has me curious how many different types and ratios of solvents are in the different models of conditioners. Guess I’ll be trying to get a lot of SDS sheets. Another rabbit hole for me to go down. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your weekend. I enjoy the content.

[@brunsnick]

If you’d like, we tested out lane oil effect on durometer readings on our podcast episode 17 and 18 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYCYfaCea7NgoKs m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJXPimyParpnn9k

[@williamfreitas7016]

@@brunsnick thank you. I’ll definitely watch them.

[@CheapButNotEasy]

USBC did what looks like a pretty definitive study on urethane softening. Urethane which softens from use creates no different motion, while new balls with lower durometers out of the box do move differently. I don't recall why but they did the testing and the results were pretty clear

[@cardinalcopium5088]

Why not put a core in 15 with a slightly higher diff???

[@brunsnick]

Would have to change the core.

[@cardinalcopium5088]

I realize that, but if thats what they want.....​@brunsnick

[@brunsnick]

But they definitely don’t want to change their 15s nor would we on Purple or Black.

[@cardinalcopium5088]

@@brunsnick if only one of the other 6 brands could make a urethane with a hair more diff...

[@ScottyThompson-lt7wl]

Cool video talk tech bowling ball Brunsnick

[@robertgustke652]

I want that TEE-SHIRT

[@brunsnick]

Go snag one! www.insidebowling.com/collections/brunsnick

[@Vinnielagrange]

The Grizz. Baby…

[@ripvanrevs]

Guessing Packy already has 8 different black urethanes!

[@brunsnick]

Maybe more!

[@joshg218]

​@@brunsnick 1000% more

[@SteveWalsh-hx3ge]

Missed Packy this past weekend here in Phoenix. If i can remember, i will ask when I move to Wichita in a few months