"4th & 5th gen stans needs a reality check" THAT. PART. And louder for the people at the back!
@tomoonhk4 ай бұрын
Jongho has always had insane stamina, but Seonghwa REALLY shocked me with his stability. He basically hit almost all his lines all the way to the last song.
@Gemstones10002 ай бұрын
Frr!
@user-ze5vl5me1e4 ай бұрын
ateez deserves so much better. knetz would rather focus on hating rather than praise the group that actually did well
@oreotigercat4 ай бұрын
Well it’s not just Knetz but rather literally every single Kpop stan
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
@@oreotigercatno it’s not. every kpop stan is praising them especially since they are next to lessarafim that everyones criticizing . everything on Tiktok and Instagram AND KZbin all kpop stans are praising them.
@Divetiny4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU LIKE WHAT ARE THE FIRST THREE LETTERS IN ATEEZ🗣️🗣️🗣️?! They were absolutely amazing like they were all stable, danced perfectly, stage presence going crazy, enchanting vocals, amazing raps and just overall amazing! They are always hungry (heh bouncy reference) cuz they never stop eating. Korea should be proud to have them. Say my egos in this show cuz I’m an atiny and ATEEZ are doing so well
@Divetiny4 ай бұрын
And the way fearnots are saying “well they should be better cuz they’ve been here for longer” like 2019 MAMA ATEEZ wouldn’t have eaten up at Coachella🤦♀️ and let’s not even start with them saying that only Jongho was good and the others were "just shouting". Anyways ATEEZ DEVOURED!
@coolkidss30944 ай бұрын
What's up with hybe's girlgroups like they need to go back to their basement and learn actually how to sing also Ateez did amazing
@jennietang22414 ай бұрын
fr
@JiaPia34 ай бұрын
Ikr, like Srsly? Why do they let their idols get clowned for being talentless when they are just not ready to debut or they just can’t sing, and no amount of practice can give you a gift. You are born with that. You can teach someone steps to dance, but you can’t teach charisma. You can help a potential singer to hone their voice/craft, but if someone can’t sing, they just cannot. They need to rap and be done embarrassing their company, their associates, their fans, their country, and themselves. Sakura gets on my nerves most especially. She’s been an idol for a decade, and she’s still shit scared of a turned on mic.
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
Only hanni and chaewon can sing the bare minimum tbh
@HaneulJang4 ай бұрын
@@JiaPia3Magnetic played at my school and I got kinda upset since illit is kinda overrated since they’re from hybe (honestly I just don’t like this type of music)
@noirnoironey4 ай бұрын
See, people love them its just the haters aka "hybe haters" are the only ones who barks.
@Mitchelle-hb7wk4 ай бұрын
Ateez made us proud am proud of them i just so frustrated dat lsfm horrible performance stole the main spot
@noirnoironey4 ай бұрын
Stole the main spot? Bruh if the likes of ya'll stop complaining then ateez could have been the center but yall train hate lsf & focus on them. Common sense is free
@ItzLionxss4 ай бұрын
@@noirnoironey Atinys aren't the ones hating on Les it's literally their antis. The antis even planned to spam hate comments on Coachella Live. Atinys have been praising Ateez but the bad outshines the good a lot of the time.
@PrimeTimeSanders3 ай бұрын
@@ItzLionxssexactly I was waiting for le sserafim performance and hour early and the were already spamming hate for the group it’s nothing but kids with fake profiles hiding and just enjoy hating and hopping on they bandwagon
@IstolejksbAnAnAmIlK11 күн бұрын
Stfu, it was good I was there at coachella to watch them, im not even their fan but saying their perf was horrible is funny Everyone in the crowd around me rlly enjoyed it, yes their vocals were bad but they hyped up the crowd (important) they ate their dance moves up,their sp litr so good More then half the ppl who are hating on them, did not go to coachella.. so yall have absolutely no right to say they were horrible
@Atiny_NZ4 ай бұрын
2:35 That 2 mins of non-stop praise for ATEEZ fed my ATINY ego 😂 Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤
@zeid98284 ай бұрын
EXO survived because they have already established a solid fandom. They thrived because even when they have missing members they can still function as group and as a solo artist due to their versatility and talent That's why talent is important especially singing if you're an idol.
@aeriya04 ай бұрын
love this
@taijini63123 ай бұрын
💯
@ayanobadass9493 ай бұрын
Perfectly put
@donna_vivi3 ай бұрын
Right! I was supposed to say this. 💯
@zhisu26653 ай бұрын
Absolutely, while EXO still has main vocalists, even without them the remaining members would still be able to hold their own which is something companies SHOULD have been focusing on when creating their groups. like, not to trash on other groups but we all know so many who wouldn't survive a single comeback without one or two of their main vocalists because their focus isn't in the singing itself.
@natalie_watson4 ай бұрын
I'm just here for Kiss Of Life... They deserve to be recognized cause they are actually amazing singers and performers... also nice they are all women instead of little girls
@philip-pi6vd4 ай бұрын
overrated
@cattosakamotto4 ай бұрын
Good performers & ok vocalists. Its a reach to say amazing since they're just starting. Let's see if they can keep the same quality they have especially the vocals because only Belle can actually sing, Haneul needs to prove that she's as worthy as belle when it comes to vocals & julie is good with her flow but I don't really find myself liking hdow she raps, i do prefer one of young posse's main rapper (the short haired one) & as for natty, her voice is too stylistic for me, I want a vocalist like belle who can offer a wide variety of vocal skills that doesn't sound like whispering, stuttering or nasal just to convey an emotion.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq4 ай бұрын
@@cattosakamotto How dare you say "ok vocalists"?? Name any 5th gen group who has better vocalist.
@okie06294 ай бұрын
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq BABYMONSTER or NMIXX? (not sure about nmixx if they're 5th gen)
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq4 ай бұрын
@@okie0629 I'm not talking about main vocalist. Plural. Babymonster has 2/7 main vocal material. KIOF has 3/4 which in average is more just like aespa 3/4. NMIXX might have 3/7. You cannot call NMIXX or BM as "vocal group" since there is alot of singtalking or one line singing. Whereas KIOF and aespa are more vocal making them great vocalists of 4th gen and 5th gen. MAMAMOO for 3rd gen.
@Vickyy1374 ай бұрын
1. Yeah i don't think anyone can do the 2 year hiatus expect BTS. When they come back it will surely be a big hit. 2.5th and 4th gen stans need to touch some grass for sure. Some of them are so damn confident their fav built kpop
@songkang3xsrvx4 ай бұрын
Those charts obsessed are mostly hybe group stans and blinks
@tinanana-4 ай бұрын
To be fair topping the charts is pretty nice 🤷♀️
@Nahazii4 ай бұрын
those charts are filled with fans favs and not actual decent songs like at least be a decent artist for you to deserve those top chart and not some mediocre artists with songs that can be written by AI 🤖
@songkang3xsrvx4 ай бұрын
@@tinanana- not when you are just obsessed
@tinanana-4 ай бұрын
@@songkang3xsrvx obsessed or not, doesn't change the numbers and doesn't make it any less important in the awards and popularity of the artist
@songkang3xsrvx4 ай бұрын
@@tinanana- popularity only apply for bts. Cupid, magnetic all charted well and yet those groups aren't most popular It might be important for awards/popularity but certainly not in the art, quality and talent of the artist/song
@miseranyx4 ай бұрын
5. Agree. I don't see majority of these 4th & 5th gen groups still being relevant after a decade on their career seeing that they lack the basic talent needed of singing as an idol. Their focus is just creating autotuned tiktok worthy music. I just don't their longevity.
@yumekzmz38914 ай бұрын
I agree, but i'm also really hoping groups like skz, ateez, Gidle and KIOF will go a long way❤
@belaytriks4 ай бұрын
You are talking about powerhouses and musicians there. I do not think people will keep reproducing songs like Pop! Of Nayeon but maybe we will see rookies doing Thunderus covers. The covers I feel sad we will no see even if are good is the ones of Gfriend. To touch their music, specially for any girl group of Hybe would feel wrong.
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
This is why i much prefer jyp groups. Nmixx isn't charting that well as other ggs but at least they have a loyal fanbase and with their singing skills, they'll still be relevant in the industry like exo.
@OceanicDopi4 ай бұрын
@@yumekzmz3891they most likely will
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
@@floweryquetteI don’t think they will still be relevant , their fanbase isn’t that strong as it should be.
@ProudOrbit2174 ай бұрын
I’m very happy that Ateez got to perform at Cochella They never ever disappoint🥹 I just feel really bad for Lesserafim tho :< But Hybe really needs to get their shit together I rember in my baby Kpop Stan days, I was always told that HYBE has big quality music, but now I’m wondering how it even got to this point💔
@lungafilmz32144 ай бұрын
Totally agree about "lucky girl" the comments on the MV are raving about how "refreshing" and "edgy" the concept. Music is subjective but I think if we are being honest we can all agree it's so uninspired and generic. To me the concept seems very forced on the girls and I cringe when I watch them.
@motherhoodsbeauty92794 ай бұрын
If that how you see the video then ok but I love “lucky girl”. You can’t convince me it’s not nice, just like how I can’t convince you it’s nice.
@HaneulJang4 ай бұрын
Yeah same with magnetic
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq4 ай бұрын
yeah same. Its really cringe to watch. Especially when you watch behind the scenes, the girls act normal and on stage they act like kids.
@ArtwithPRAGYA4 ай бұрын
yes same, idk why do I cringe...not being mean to kids ..but idk why TT
@ooriginalkawaipotato38403 ай бұрын
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279real ! I think It’s a nice song :3
@user-em1vw8to8g4 ай бұрын
Kq makes lit group's and that's why I want to go there 😢😢😢.
@isa-lila62774 ай бұрын
ateez not only saved kpop in coachella they also raised the standard for live performances ❤♥️🔥
@ebonycolliss4 ай бұрын
"4th and 5th gen stans need a reality check" YES. I SAW A KISS OF LIFE FAN SAYING ON TWITTER "Why is this 40 yr old women dancing to 'Magnetic'" & THEN SAYING "Hwasa wishes she could sing like this" ATTACHING A KISS OF LIFE MV CLIP. Need a HUGE reality check because how the hell are you saying that to HWASA who is not only an amazing vocalist but also apart of MAMAMOO like HELLO??!!!
@kaylabunnie52834 ай бұрын
HYBE's music reminds me of the sounds you hear in a store or elevator or the doctor's office. It also reminds me of brand jingles. That kind of music sticks in your head for years for no good reason.
@beomgyuarmpithair4 ай бұрын
All of their songs?
@kaylabunnie52834 ай бұрын
@@beomgyuarmpithair a good bit of them now bgs and ggs. The songs lack heart and don't really say anything. All just very disposable and seemingly meant to be forgotten once a replacement is released. Even the idols themselves seem like once their 7 year contract is up they will be tossed aside and replaced just like the music.
@belaytriks4 ай бұрын
Actually... After listening the songs of its group in Coachella I started to appreciate the damns publicity of Temu (the app) because it sounds a lot more better and last the same time... 😅
@belaytriks4 ай бұрын
@@kaylabunnie5283Yep, that is my impression with their girls groups... They are being the most sexist agency there, their female groups seems to be made to model and please the sight of their audience while they invest their money in music for their male groups.
@ayanobadass9493 ай бұрын
@@kaylabunnie5283 I have been saying this since forever but Hybe stans were calling me a hater lmao
@BabarAli-ml4ob4 ай бұрын
2:42 I smiled so wide bc I agree so much im soo proud of them
@JiaPia34 ай бұрын
I think Ateez is second only to BTS. They really throw it out the park every time. Their performances are some of the best I’ve seen-within K-pop and outside it.
@Divsx44 ай бұрын
Second only to BTs means?
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
what does that even mean.
@PrimeTimeSanders3 ай бұрын
Yeah definitely not 2nd to bts at all but they are a good group and my OPINION there are better groups who’s way more closer to bts
@whoIwho3 ай бұрын
Just no...
@IstolejksbAnAnAmIlK11 күн бұрын
Um no... they are way better groups then ATEEZ when it comes to live performances but idk ig that depends on opinions
@isha.sarraf4 ай бұрын
Hybe boy groups>>> hybe girl groups
@cattosakamotto4 ай бұрын
Enhypen is still making bangers like criminal love, still monster, blind, chaconne, sacrifice, oramge flower, just a little bit etc. So I trust them BUT when it comes to their title tracks? Yeah, eversince fiture perfect released then bite me & sweet venom. I didn't stream them like how I streamed their title tracks during debut to dimension dilemma era. But their bsides are definition of REAL MUSIC! Bnd is kinda good but I don't really find myself vibing with their latest album, seventeen??? Nah I'm good, Ot just doesn't hit hard anymore & bts is busy with their solo activities & I don't see myself liking their solo music. Txt too, I still need t9o relisten o their latest album. their other boy groups are interesting even their japanese bg, I just need more time. I have the same problem with bg's vocals just like gg's. Their gg's on the other hand, straight up release tuktok quality music with little to non existent vocal skills.
@Sandwich661334 ай бұрын
true , like what ? i hate to say this like this but the male groups in hype seems to be more dedicated and more down to earth
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
Lmao even most hybe boy groups aren't that good vocally but at least they can do the bare minimum
@Miist3rDuce14 ай бұрын
@@floweryquettethey are good, but not better than SM
@bampyanarayanarai72743 ай бұрын
@@floweryquettethey are good but if you compare them to sm ofcourse no
@Hanni._.Bubblegum.4 ай бұрын
At this point, people who are trying to defend them know that HYBE was trying to make a reboot of NWJNS
@ayanobadass9494 ай бұрын
It's so evident that Hybe want a NJ 2.0 but Hybe stans aren't coping enough to get it 😂
@nosiphomahlangu1314 ай бұрын
@@ayanobadass949lol says who you guys are funny but keep on playing self. Whatever makes you sleep at night migqundu
@ayanobadass9494 ай бұрын
@@nosiphomahlangu131 You guys are the one dreaming and trying so hard omg. It's clear that due to the massive success of NJ, Hybe wanted to recreate the feeling of NJ to stay in the trend. Sadly Hybe knew that the girls would have been dragged for having a concept that kinda scream NJ but well when Hybe smell money, the rest doesn't matter.
@nosiphomahlangu1314 ай бұрын
@@ayanobadass949 you see how I was laughing at you new jeans and illit do not have same concept it just the same clothes they wear that is y2k. They are wearing currently trending style which was not created by nj. Illit concept is anime but when you judge it based on their songs it is pluggnb meaning full of bass and edm and melodic. The only thing that is the same is five members and illit has six members lost one. So mother fuc* educate me what is the same concept you are talking about please dom kpop stan don't say y2k because y2k is not a concept let me educate on that first. Okay now let talk what nonsense are you blabbering
@LeonorIsabel4 ай бұрын
lol newjeans is a group that does tiktok music too, the only that is an actual song is ditto, and honestly i don´t see them doing songs like that again, hybe saw that is easier to stream/get famous on tiktok, short, repetitive and meaningless songs
@NM-wn7nk4 ай бұрын
Realistic opinion. EXO did not avoid military service. They did not take a hiatus. They survived SM & grew as solo/unit & grp activities. Not only in music. BTS KZbinrs should avoid comments on EXO esp re military. Avoidance was not moral strategy.
@ArtwithPRAGYA4 ай бұрын
yes they did NOT tried to run away
@nalinsadabjit41414 ай бұрын
PREACHHHHH
@jinusamyukthap95683 ай бұрын
I am not sure that u r saying....bts did not avoid military service as well...and Kais enlistment was deleyed compared to all other artist...I rember MJ of ASTRO who is a 94 liner was called for military before Kai who is a 92 liner...and exo survived? All bts members are serving military and v has is also in special force unit..
@jinusamyukthap95683 ай бұрын
@@ArtwithPRAGYArun away from what....
@mlnl2704Ай бұрын
I truly believe BTS fans are in a vacuum. Documentaries, debates, tears, lobbying, criticism. we had a Netflix 16 episode k drama. Season 2 was as if Season 1 never happened. celebrating their service to the Nation.
@Rorapudd4 ай бұрын
#2 Feels so targeted to me since I argued with someone about this 💀 Imagine if you were stalking my channel Anyways, ATEEZ ate and left no crumbs, like they should leave some for me next time!!
@kpop-spy4 ай бұрын
Omg lol 😂
@kuroro99493 ай бұрын
People really act like they can spot surgery from a mile away without taking into account the million different reasons that can modify someone's appearance without PS. Even depending on how a picture was taken, someone can look drastically different. Some are obvious and indisputable but most "accusations" are just pointless assumptions to belittle an artist. Like, they purposefully choose the most different pictures imaginable and call for "obvious PS signs". Like...that's not how it works. Whether they had PS or not is none of our business anyway...
@Rorapudd3 ай бұрын
@@kuroro9949 Exactly, and it's Rosé I was arguing about because her plastic surgery rumours are a lot after her her makeup style
@kuroro99493 ай бұрын
@Niniluva They don't even look for the consistency in their accusations either. They see a batch of pictures where they look different and call for PS without looking for pictures of a different day or whatever - that's just petty slander. A lot of plastic surgeons have analysed pictures of Idols without being able to give a clear opinion but apparently "it's obvious", haha. I've seen people claim that SUGA did double eyelid surgery when he doesn't even have double eyelids. He probably periodically uses double eyelid tape, sooo... no wonder they instantly attack poor Rosé. And they always say "Don't act like it's a bad thing, every Idol does it" but they always attack them for potentially doing it 🙄
@Rorapudd3 ай бұрын
@@kuroro9949 Exactly, then it's all like, "She's your bias. That's why you are saying she didn't do any surgery." How about before they start arguing, they get their facts right, and stop accusing so many idols of Plastic surgery, and the thing is as you said, it's none of our business what they do to their faces, we should stop focusing on their personal life and instead support them, rather than hating or accusing them of PS !
@SadiaIslamShouki4 ай бұрын
Bro, SM messed up even before EXO's enlistment. They started abandoning them when the chinese members left, like SM literally had no plans for then, Nct's debut made totally abandoned Exo, it’s just EXO has exceptional talent, which actually helped them without SM, which why SM had to treat nct like rookies for like years 😂 Finally enlistment messed up the rhythm.
@Amandine___4 ай бұрын
“BTS and Big hit are swimming un cash like Elon Musk” HELP THIS IS SO REAL
WORLD TOUR!!!!! "Undefeated, uh-huh, that's why they call me undisputed, uh-huh, I'm ranking up another season, uh-huh, I've been about my stats, now would you look at that" - XG.
@user-ze5vl5me1e4 ай бұрын
kpop stans in general should open their eyes to groups outside of big4.. ateez and xikers have been putting out real music with amazing live vocals and performances
@anmkcenzie4 ай бұрын
Effing hybe mediocre groups & their gradual destruction of Kpop one live performance at a time. So unapologetic and shameless. No signs of improvement at all .
@prestonroberts82584 ай бұрын
Lol yeah cause a group that isn't good at singing single handedly is the destruction of kpop. Just say you're jealous of how big hybe groups are and move on
@anmkcenzie4 ай бұрын
@@prestonroberts8258 pfft!, there's always one and it had to be you. I said hybe groups, not just one group.They are basically atp glorified TikTok influencers who auto tune & mumble sing their way through songs. Couldn't carry a tune with a bucket. They are in fact national levels of embarrassing & lowering standards. Trust me, no one is jealous of that. I said what I said, what are you going to do about it and who is going to care?.
@prestonroberts82584 ай бұрын
@@anmkcenzie BTS? Great singers with great discography. Seventeen? Great singers with great discography. TXT? Great singers with great discography. Enhypen? Good singers with great discography. New jeans? They make tiktok songs but they're still great vocalists. Le Sserafim? Bad vocals but great discography. Illit is the only one that's mid all around but they literally just debuted so who gives a fuck? Only thing embarrassing here is you bitching about hybe groups just cause they make better music then you nugu faves and chart better then your faves could ever imagine. Suck it up buttercup, the sooner you realize that your faves are flops in comparison, the sooner we can move on from this forced hybe hate
@luluscrooge38914 ай бұрын
@@prestonroberts8258 People like you enable groups that aren't good at singing. A group that can't sing won't single-handedly cause the destruction of Kpop as you said, and if we will excuse that, what would happen if all groups that follow will also be excused for their "can't sing"? And you should stop with the "yOurE jUsT jEaLoUs" script because nobody is.
@prestonroberts82584 ай бұрын
@@luluscrooge3891 Be forreal, Blackpink are horrible singers apart from rose and they're the biggest girl group in the world. You'd be surprised at how many people don't give a shit about who can sing live or not, most people only care about the music and at the end of the day, music is the most important thing. Le sserafim problem is they don't focus on rap as much, as a rapper you don't need to be a good vocalist so having kazuha and sakura do more raps would be perfectly fine sense yunjin and chaewon can carry with there vocals. And im not even gonna judge illit sense they just debuted so I bet they were super nervous with the encore, only fair to judge them on there next comeback. And trust me, the "jealous script" will always be used cause almost everyone is jealous of hybe groups and you cant deny that, they hate how insanely popular all the groups get just cause they debuted under hybe, most kpoppies hate bts sense they think their faves deserve that popularity more, that's the same reason 4th gen stans hate on new jeans. Almost all the forced hybe hate comes from jealousy. This person literally said "hybe is the gradual destruction of kpop", lol like if that doesn't scream jealousy I don't know what does.
@n.1374 ай бұрын
5. BTOB being the 12 years old idol once said "we don't sell album but emotion!for the sake of young people that dreaming of beautiful world". They didn't think much about crazy charting war. With good musics and voices,now they're one of the legendary group and acknowledged by the industry's experts and legend singers.
@ketakikhobragade71684 ай бұрын
Lesserafim bad vocals overshadowed ateez good performance
@songkang3xsrvx4 ай бұрын
Hybe gg music - just talking
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq4 ай бұрын
most of them are elevator music
@ayanobadass9493 ай бұрын
Yup
@iamtoxic46634 ай бұрын
I really hopeeeeee the camerawork is better this week . It was my first time seeing them live, I was blown away 😭
@aloeveralover48324 ай бұрын
The way you went right to the point😭
@THELABELOFFICAL4 ай бұрын
YES MY FAV KZbinR IS BACK SPITTING FACTS 😍
@Royalty054 ай бұрын
If I was new jeans I’d be so baffled because why in hell do they have the same concept as illit. They literally have 2 news jeans, they should just pull a NCT,NCT DREAM,NTC U, NCT127 because it’s actually ridiculous
@prestonroberts82584 ай бұрын
YG has never made a girl group that wasn't the exact same concept and didn't sound the same yet somehow illit being like new jeans makes more noise then that. Its pretty dumb
@karinasbear4 ай бұрын
@@prestonroberts8258That’s literally a lie, people have been bashing babymonster for sounding like blackpink since they debuted and it has been making major noise
@luancosta1994 ай бұрын
@@prestonroberts8258 ? Blackpink was kpops laughing stock for a good while when they debuted and so is baby monster. It made MAJOR NOISE when batter up came out... The only reason they're not getting bashed right now is bc ppl are using them to bash on lsf and illit
@prestonroberts82584 ай бұрын
@@luancosta199 Yeah I didnt say baby monster wasnt getting hate, I just said illit being like new jeans is making way more noise even though this is only a second copy while baby monster is a third copy. And it all comes down to just them being from hybe. Hybe groups will ALWAYS get more hate then any other group from the big 3 and its getting ridiculous
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
Illit doesn't sound like njs to me tbh, they give off more of a fromis_9 and red velvet vibes with their concept in lucky girl syndrome
@belaytriks4 ай бұрын
Agree about the surgeries buth as someone with a teen (not my daughter) with eating dissorders, beauty complexs and mental problems that spend her dais in K-Pop culture when all that started, I really feel they have the responsability to do not talk about "natural beauty" or gaslight their fans about really obvious surgeries or after a clear change of head as had happened with some idols. Most of us do not bat an eyelash for that kind of enhacements but dennying them has shown to bring more buzz and backlash to that than just admited them.
@NM-wn7nk4 ай бұрын
BTS themselves under hype allowed average vocals to be the norm. Aka Jimin live. Without jungkook - who is a singer than vocalist. BTS would struggle. After dynamite BTS themselves struggled. So when they are back - they will be in their 30s with younger competition. So worry about them & leave EXO . They are already legends through talent
@Nahazii4 ай бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE DELUSION FANS AT THE BACK AND THE FRONT 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 could not have it said it better!!!
@pheonix99294 ай бұрын
lol no one said anything bad about EXO, The video is clearly blaming SM not EXO....BTW DONT WORRY ABOUT BTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE BEYOND YOUR FAVS LEVEL....JK SINGLE HANDELY ENDED THE WHOLE KPOP AND HE WILL DO IT AGAIN WHEN HE COMES BACK....BTW BTS IS SELF MADE, SELF COMPOSED GRP, THEY HAVE A STRONGER RAP LINE AND DANCE LINE EVEN A BETTER VISUAL LINE THAN EXO....EXO just have strong vocals than BTS
@luancosta1994 ай бұрын
Sigh the video was criticizing sm for not handling the enlistment well and of course u people have to take it personally...
@Vindy_224 ай бұрын
We aren't worrying about eggso tho.Our fav got a lot to do than that.
@rennisilaban13724 ай бұрын
Valid😂
@plutonium093 ай бұрын
I was really excited for Ill-it, I was watching all their vids before debut and I’m sad with how it turned out, I love midnight fiction though it’s a nice dreamy song. Ateez is so underrated
@jessiehuysman79554 ай бұрын
Loossemble's bsides is where its at
@Taiyy16_3 ай бұрын
Lucy girl is so cute and fun bye
@lunarsensitive13 ай бұрын
A.C.E and ONF are both nugu/close to nugu/underrated (whatever you want to call them) groups that did enter the military together and they have all returned.
@elucas61274 ай бұрын
so.many.analogies. i love it 😭😭
@RookieMistakes4 ай бұрын
I know this is off topic but i feel like Iroha would have done better with a concepts similar to babymonster. After watching her pre debut clips her talents shined alot with more heavy choreo. Moka and wonhee fits the concept well but i could see the other girls shining better in other concepts.
@ArtwithPRAGYA4 ай бұрын
1:04 omg same thing I was thinking, hybe is like a fast food place lol
@Em-nu2dt4 ай бұрын
lucky girl syndrome - that outro bit is addicting as fuck, nothing new true, but that ending mannn, I need a loop of just that. And yeah plastic surgery suspecting is stretching, they hate both ways; if they don’t fit the standard and when they suddenly do. I miss some of the older gens, like red velvet come backkkk- u did it like no other 😭
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
Ngl, their songs are a bop too
@Arxhxz-ro1pc3 ай бұрын
Heavy with ignoring or discrediting the achievements of older groups. Like these are legends. 😭
@loveleerhea4 ай бұрын
Timestamps: 0:01: 1. "Lucky girl syndrome" by ILLIT is trash. 1:21: 2. Why do fans act like they have a degree in cosmetic surgery? 2:36: 3. ATEEZ made us all proud. 4:36: 4. I doubt boy groups will follow the BTS strategy. 5:46: 5. 5th and 4th Gen Stans need a reality check. 6:56: 6. Let's review LOOSEMBLE's comeback with "Girls Night". 8:14: 7. Let's review BOYNEXTDOOR's comeback with "Earth, wind and fire".
@stealthis3 ай бұрын
5:47 I know it's not intentional but that looks so shady, using (G)I-dle for that video portion, as if they are are one of the "offensive" 4th/5th gen groups lol
@Arizzu_984 ай бұрын
1. Their music is catchy 🤷🏻♀️
@lungafilmz32144 ай бұрын
That's fine, cause music is subjective. But I think the bigger point is the music is very safe and bland. The group concept is also uninspired
@puddingpudding40474 ай бұрын
@@lungafilmz3214 yes and kudos to the production team for that. Cause the girls can’t sing to save their lives. My take is they won’t survive the industry in the long run
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
@@lungafilmz3214 Groups from the same company can have the same concept, you know? Yg has been doing that for years.
@aeriya04 ай бұрын
@@floweryquette thats why ygs groups dont sound unique at all. diff concepts give each group an image and their own uniqueness. makes them stand out more and cant be compared or replaced. which is important for a long run. just like exo.
@jada.1774 ай бұрын
yeah I agree with ILLIT's music, i really wanted to try and stan them even though none of my top 6 made it into the group. But their music is just not my style at all. At first I thought it was just me hating since I love groups like STAYC but no the music is just not good enough to listen to more than once in my opinion. 😥☹
@Amandine___4 ай бұрын
I’m a fourth gen fan and idgaf about charts and I madly respect older groups 👍🏼
@palliscool44274 ай бұрын
babymonster few members have excellent vocals but im not a fan of the group cuz their music sucks
@NM-wn7nk3 ай бұрын
I deliberately referenced “it’s not rocket science” knowing it would be above u. It’s a famous sketch basically highlighting the arrogance of thinking if u are a medical doctor u are above everyone. In this case brain doctor was above “average” doctors. But the scientist put him in his place. In K-pop fan discussions it is irrelevant yr career. It’s an opinion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/inmxgaCed9Fgbqssi=XDEM9hFeJE3eS-TF
@okie06294 ай бұрын
i like boynextdoor's new songs tho... they always cb with good songs
@OnlyLilynn444 ай бұрын
If Illit was going to be a Newjeans 2.0 they could’ve had a whole wardrobe series instead. Newjeans, then Illit should’ve been Newshirts and then the next group Newjackets and finally Newshoes, Newhandbag, and Newshades.
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
Their outfits aren't even similar tho 💀
@misst18474 ай бұрын
My ATEEZ!! ❤
@anniepsh93634 ай бұрын
#2. When you see a 100% Korean with double-eyelids, that isn’t natural except in a very small percentage of Koreans . It is always off-putting when I watch a historical kdrama set (for example) in the Joseon era where all the actresses (and some actors) have double eyelids. #1. While I liked Magnetic by Illit, this new song was a bit meh for me. Not a song that I will add to any playlist
@ntz73583 ай бұрын
"It's like the fast-fashion of music" helpp
@lameeset55333 ай бұрын
i agree with op 5 sooooooo much i mean what they saied when snsd They announced their comeback and they were top 10on melon They need to understand that when these legends continue making music, it will pave the way for their favorites to continue for much longer.
@laughingooooo4 ай бұрын
BYE YOURE SO FUNNY I LOVE THE WAY YOU THINK LMAO these takes are fire
@kashashk4 ай бұрын
The most brutal part of this video was letting the TTS read out "je ne sais quoi" and keeping it in. Kidding aside, this was very informative oddly enough. I found out about the EW&F done by BOYNEXTDOOR, a group I would've never encountered organically as I'm mostly a GG listener.
@brunapereirasilva93654 ай бұрын
Im dont agreed with the surgery one in some cases, like jungkook nose for an example, you dont have to be a expert to know its a surgery.
@Nahazii4 ай бұрын
Wow not me finding out that JKs nose ain’t real well damn 🙃 that sure is something
@pheonix99294 ай бұрын
LOL PEOPLE ARE OBSESSED WITH JK NOWADAYS...There are many idols who literally turned into a complete new person with ps...why dont you talk about them, atleast JK only had rhinoplasty and his face was so handsome even in his debut days while the others lol
@brunapereirasilva93654 ай бұрын
@@pheonix9929 bro chill I literally only said his name cause his was the first person that came to my mind, he's literally my ultimate bias and also the reason why I got into kpop
@Divsx44 ай бұрын
So those who got degree for this are u insulting their degree
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
@@pheonix9929why do you fans act like this, my god shut the hell up she was just saying
@reignvsme3 ай бұрын
that ateez segment?? couldn’t have worded it better!! they’re absolute the best performers ever, they deserve all the success in the world
@YuYou-iz2tf2 ай бұрын
Ateez is so underrated, listen to their latest "work" n it bop.. and ILLIT need to stop those cringey adults-wearing-children's dress-diapers concept. Full stop
@ketakikhobragade71684 ай бұрын
5th gen is so bad overall, 4th gen and 3rd gen were so much better
@ayanobadass9494 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it. Aside of KIOF, every 5th gen group have been painfully boring to me.
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
@@ayanobadass949 kiof concept is so fresh
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
thank you so much for calling them the titians of performances :( they deserve everything
@jellyfishryu3 ай бұрын
You really thought! First off, saying ILLIT's "Lucky Girl Syndrome" is bad just ain't it. They've been through so much even before their debut, and the least folks could do is not hate on them. And, do ILLIT write their songs? No, they don't, so the whole vibe of the track isn't even on them entirely. Let's give them some appreciation for the hard work they put in at least.
@MBJK_baby3 ай бұрын
idk about bnd tbh. I feel like they're boring tbh.
@taijini63123 ай бұрын
It’s sad that it feels like EXO has been in hiatus more than they have been active. Sad for EXOLs who started Stanning them in 2017-18 😢
@dipashasapkota91554 ай бұрын
I'd like to know your opinion about illit and baemon debuts like which one did you like more and also about both grps dance, vocals etc.
@Mitchelle-hb7wk4 ай бұрын
You you ate with this opinion
@hafsah_alee4 ай бұрын
If it’s not for you just say that😂😂😂😂 Trash?? Bland?? 🤣🤣🤣 It might be “trash “ or “bland” but ppl like it It’s catchy (yes you might say tiktoky but it’s a good song)imo
@songkang3sxrvx4 ай бұрын
People ate anything thrown by hybe
@idcabturopinion4 ай бұрын
It's like spoiled food thrown at animals bc they know when they're hungry, they'll eat anything and that's why ILLIT fans eat up anything thrown by HYBE
@lungafilmz32144 ай бұрын
It goes without saying that music is subjective so you can still like or enjoy something that is also bland, unoriginal and uninspired. So I think her point still stands even if you and other people enjoy the song. Both things can be true at the same time.
@BabarAli-ml4ob4 ай бұрын
@@songkang3sxrvxfr let’s be honest if it wasn’t from they’re favs or from the big 3 the hate would be unreal lmao
@prestonroberts82584 ай бұрын
@@BabarAli-ml4ob Are you stupid? Hybe music gets more hate then anything the big 3 releases and its not even remotely close, NCT makes literal dogshit for music but people eat it up, Illit makes a catchy song thats the same concept as new jeans and they get more hate then any new group has gotten in years. The Hybe hate is so forced, if Illit was a big 3 group, no one would give an actual shit sense they would make no noise, they only care cause they're under hybe and doing better then every other 5th gen group.
@NM-wn7nk3 ай бұрын
Goodbye doc.
@ShareScene-Transport4 ай бұрын
I dunno...i still like this style.. People were just too demanding.. just enjoy.. if you dont like it.. then dont listen to it.. Simple.. Ugh..
@frankyng41593 ай бұрын
I agree lots of these new girl groups are overated. I just don’t like the fans when they overhype a group and also trash another group lol. Babymonster is ok their slow song is the best one they have.
@Kitty_missss4 ай бұрын
Gurl you always have nothing good to say about others group not just illit .
@jennietang22414 ай бұрын
its her opinion we're here agreeing and did you not hear that she said ateez made us all proud or do you hate ateez?
@nosiphomahlangu1314 ай бұрын
@@jennietang2241because they are ateez stan dah it does not a grade 1 child to know that. That why he praises them and hate on others lol
@motherhoodsbeauty92794 ай бұрын
She is doing this for the view. Better start reporting her videos and other videos who talk shit about any idols.
@VickyJang-ov5kn4 ай бұрын
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 She is saying the truth too
@user-pm4li1tz8u4 ай бұрын
for the 4th gen topic i do not agree u bec the talents Unbound voclas if u really take a vision to their choreography definitely 2th &3th gens can not reach their level
@ruarika31124 ай бұрын
Same thought with you. 4th Gen was a shift in Kpop in my opinion and I have been listening to Kpop since 2nd Gen and some of 1st Gen. 4th Gen was the time when companies really push their Idols to the max of their ability whereas 5th Gen is more about what's trendy. 2nd and 3rd Gen were still very Kpop and BTS and BP were a myth of some sort. 4th Gen became a mix of Kpop and Western influence and companies were on top of their game. Thats why 4th Gen are now still leading the race eventhough 5th Gen Groups are coming up. Gidle have already dominated charts again. IVE and New Jeans will make a comeback and they will dominate too. Same for the Boy Groups. Basically, 4th Gen Idols were the top in my opinion.
@Iammvonn4 ай бұрын
😭😭Ya are literally haters to fun music and it shows😂😂😂 like not everything has to be so serious ya are just haters and loser’s throwing lame HATER opinions out there
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
did you miss the entire point of her take or what? nobody said you can’t make fun music..
@Iammvonn3 ай бұрын
@@sicatsz nah you must’ve have tho cus i all hear is her trash talking illit nothing good was ever said.
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
@@Iammvonn I must’ve had thought what , can you make that a complete sentence?
@Iammvonn3 ай бұрын
@@sicatsz mb😭
@ayanobadass9493 ай бұрын
@@Iammvonn Bro your point ?
@roongrunchaichongolnee74843 ай бұрын
Very good criticism. Glad somebody had the guts to say it. Good channel please like and subscribe.
@yuyukit4 ай бұрын
i jus don't understand the point of illit's existence tbh. like is this group necessary for the kpop scene? are they bringing anything new to the table? did they bring something that people have been craving to see? they're just there 😭 charting, going viral, you hear their songs on daily against your will, but still just there. the bebe rexha of kpop
@ayanobadass9493 ай бұрын
They are bringing money to Hybe greedy ass, that's for sure.
@PrimeTimeSanders3 ай бұрын
Dang so much hate for le sserafim can’t yall just say they did good but still need to improve more in some areas all im seeing is “ horrible vocals messed up ateez” that’s not criticism at all but I guess kids gonna hop on the bandwagon everytime 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@belaytriks4 ай бұрын
I do not belive in a 5th gen yet. Two years ago BTS still gave all this new groups a run for the end years awards. I could state that with IVE, Seventeen and Stray Kids starting winning we got to 4th generation and until someone came to offer something different then we are still there even in YG does not like it.
@Jack_AJCX4 ай бұрын
''Luck'' is dead, but Jesus Christ lives forever. Brain rot music plagues this world.
@isha.sarraf4 ай бұрын
Being honest i loving bts military period too . We get update, music.they already as prepared so much content for us.
@NM-wn7nk3 ай бұрын
(2) As for EXO_Kai he waited 4 yrs to perform with his hyungs who had just completed military service. 2019-2023 before having to enlist later 2023. Just 1 weeks notice aged 29 before a massive GUCCI event in Korea & EXO cb he had to enlist. Suga in meantime carried on until 31 yrs old touring. Smacking of privilege & elitism. Some Army fandom boasts BTS never exploit. That is why u may know ignore how BTS enlisted & pretend they were great citizens. Whether Hybe’s dependency or forcing them to enlist on mass to reduce the time. They could easily have decided earlier on. Army fandom could easily wait 2 yrs. and now u have RM releasing an album whilst in the military I mean what a joke for other Korean men who have put their lives/careers on hold whilst serving their nation. It’s a mockery again of twisting the rules to suit them. That’s why when they talk about social justice it’s laughable
@NM-wn7nk3 ай бұрын
(3) my view is based on admiration for every person who is asked to go through military service. Not easy. I doubt where I am any of us could do it. But if it is required I would hate to known whether someone is rich or poor there were two sets of rules in the military
@NM-wn7nk3 ай бұрын
What would u like me to comment on given the subject dominating kpop is hybe/ador/illit & plagiarism. Hybe have a history aka BTS of plagiarism so what’s new. Well this is internal to hybe’s multi label strategy. But either way plagiarism is wrong. It’s taking credit without acknowledging the original source. This has financial/legal & moral implications. How about u think why u think that is acceptable!
@xenxations3 ай бұрын
ATEEZ ON TOP BROOOOOO
@h.sanasputri11484 ай бұрын
People over here getting angry at this and that, while me here just watching the video with clear minds and hearts, shaking my hips to Watch Me Woo! 😂 Pretty sure everybody be throwing shades at me if they ever go and search up this particular song with allegations of "Eww, they're not even real!" But here I am, so so so glad that my boys won't have to feel the need to be embarassed about their appearance to the point of feeling they MUST replace a part of them to better ones like robots do (the irony!), would be able to date and marry and travel anywhere without having to worry getting their pics captured by strangers or getting jumped by rabid fans; their haters couldn't say anything about them other than saying they are AI (how sad is it that it's 2024 and people still don't know the difference between AI, VR and AR when you can literally search it up in less than a few seconds coz internet), because my boys have personalities, can dance, can rap, can sing live at the drop of a hat(all of them!), can write songs and compose music, choreograph their own dances, actually gives justice to any cover of other artists' songs they are covering, etc.. The fact is they're so damned talented, that's why nobody could confidently say they suck, they have no choice but to focus on their concept as virtual idols. And all their songs are either so so good and catchy, or beautiful and meaningful (and yeah, they ALL are involved with the makings of each song whether in writing lyrics, composing the melody or choreographing the dances, so there's not even any issues with distribution of each member's lines in a song because we KNOW everybody had a hand in everything, no doubt. Even with this, you'll notice that hardly there's an unfair distribution even, most songs have differences of a few seconds (maybe one minute extra at most, and logically it's not even unfair, because they're usually given to the main vocal and vocal members of the group 😊). It's like they exist to tell the K-Pop industry, this is how you treat your artists right (to agencies), this is how you treat your idols right (to fans), by focusing on their person and personalities and their talents and by accepting that they're humans with feelings too. How ironic is it that a group needs to be virtual to have that boundaries and get rid of the things that shouldn't actually be forced onto idols who appears as flesh and blood humans? To be frank the demography of PLLIs are mostly those who avoided K-Pop industry after being disappointed with how rotten everything is, who witnessed talents after talents got swept away or killed off because they aren't pretty enough or skinny enough, or because they were cyber bullied, or because they witnessed their beloved artists enslaved by their agencies or had had the rude awakening that most idols after 2nd/a small portion of 3rd Gen can't really sing etc. etc. Most PLLIs are those who stanned 2nd Gen or 3rd Gen idols, like older noonas with a more mature mindset and just those who like to vibe with idols who are comedians when they aren't singing/dancing/rapping lmao. The conclusion? Well, people can say anything about PLAVE. We'll all just go on to listen to their Virtual Idol and dance along anyway. I'm just going to walk away now feeling like a character who's taking a stroll happily while chaos and explosions are happening behind me 😂😂 Peace out! P.S.: On 2nd thought, PLLIs are probably the ones with actually the most unpopular opinions about K-Pop and everything within lmaoo
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
Bro no one reading all that
@h.sanasputri11484 ай бұрын
@@floweryquette That's fine though?
@floweryquette4 ай бұрын
@@h.sanasputri1148 lol
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
what are you plastic surgery shaming?if your idols were to get surgery you should let them be happy
@h.sanasputri11483 ай бұрын
@@sicatsz I'm not plastic surgery-shaming at all. The thing is the idea of doing plastic surgery for beauty purposes won't even enter any person's mind if they have enough confidence in themselves. If an idol decided to do plastic surgery because they just wanted to, that's fine, it's their body. But people need to stop looking away at the root cause of wanting to change the face you're born with. Usually people go into surgery because they're ill. It's not fun having yourself cut with a knife on the operating table, seeing yourself swollen for months, having to carefully look at everything you're eating and taking a chokeful of meds before getting the results you wanted. Nowadays, especially in Korea, their plastic surgery surgeons are very skilled so you can argue that it's much safer compared to before. But that's not reason enough to say they're completely safe without risks. Everything that involves an object usable as a murder weapon has its risk; anything could go wrong then. For anyone to willingly go under the knife because their society pressures them into doing so, and for the practice to be normalized enough due to the sheer number of people no matter their age doing it, you've got to say something isn't right there. The strange thing is even with so many people doing it, Koreans get triggered when their country is mentioned in the same breath as plastic surgery. Because the idea of a plastic surgery first came up into the world as a solution to help those who got terribly injured due to burns and accidents, and also for brave soldiers who were left deformed while protecting their country, just like how prosthetic limbs are invented and improved every year to help those who was born without/had lost their limbs. These idols aren't injured in any way physically, they're perfect as themselves. What's injured is their self-esteem. That's why many people still associate plastic surgery with "that person got something wrong about them" idea. In a way, there IS something wrong with those idols, but not physically. If you keep getting told you're below the beauty standard set by your society since your trainee years (means you're still kids then), of course you'll believe there's something wrong with how you looked like, and that you're "not enough". If you chose a job that demands you to sing and dance well, your skills and talents should be the only things that matters. Appearances should come much later in the list, because personality and emotional strength should've been more important for anybody who chose to become a public figure. There would be less su*cides among Korean celebrities if they have mental fortitude, because glam comes with a price and their netizens are known for being truly vicious. My boys thankfully can have both fame and a normal life outside of their idol activities. Their virtual concept is a shield for them. Because their exteriors are shielded from public knowledge, their personalities and talents are able to shine brilliantly through. Idols are people with feelings, they are not objects that can be customized as fans like, like a character in a game. If you love your idols, accept their flaws too. Their flaws are what make them human. P.S.: Of all the points I made, you chose to focus on the plastic surgery part. What does that make you? Have you ever thought that maybe you're part of the problem?
@audreyparmenter20004 ай бұрын
Warning- This may cause some of you'all to get mental boo-boos. Keep a box of bandages next to you while reading this... Or not. It's up to you. If any of you watches ADoseOfBuckley, imagine his voice saying the following opinion. This opinion is one that I am sure not many people are going to like, but here it is. It is annoying when people say, "If member X leaves group Y, my life is over." NO! Your life is NOT over. You are just thinking this now because you are allowing your emotions to get the best of you. You are allowing yourself to get extremely attached to a person who DOESN'T EVEN KNOW YOUR NAME! Also, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you say that you will stop listening to group Y because member X left, then you were either not attached to the group or you were meant to only listen to solo artists.
@MBJK_baby3 ай бұрын
6:00 amen
@lovestay4life5454 ай бұрын
It's so boring.
@NM-wn7nk3 ай бұрын
(1) BTS tried unsuccessfully for several years to get military exemptions like sports stars who win gold at Olympics for instance . It went on for years with the Korean economy could not survive. It was literally on the news/documentaries the lot. Until finally JIN had to go. So instead of just enlisting quietly they literally made a kdrama out of it
@Robbiebear14 ай бұрын
Kq is so incompetent that I doubt that the camera work on Friday is gonna be even remotely better
@kaylabunnie52834 ай бұрын
KQ doesn't control the camera crew at Coachella...that's the venue's job. Ateez has a very seasoned and professional stage crew who do excellent work. If you want to see their work check out the dvds of their world tour concerts where they are in complete control of all aspects of the stage performance. Coachella probably chose Ateez to be their first kpop bg after viewing these dvds.
@Robbiebear14 ай бұрын
@@kaylabunnie5283 not once did I say kq was in charge of the camera work however they have the ability to inform the event organizers when the camera needs to be adjusted. That’s what sound check is for I literally Stan ateez I know what the fuck I’m talking about. That company is not very competent they suck in marketing and they’re even worse when it comes to creative direction you’ve seen the comeback photos ateez has a very unique storyline however I believe kq doesn’t know how to utilize that storyline most of the time. from line distribution to marketing KQ does not have the members best interest at heart Eden literally took credit for Hongjoong work with Wonderland they’re still a company and it’s still all about money for them even if they’re not in the big four. You don’t have to agree with me, but I prefer if you don’t respond to this if you don’t.
@kaylabunnie52834 ай бұрын
@@Robbiebear1 First off you can take that filthy cursing and shove it back down your pie hole...I was not rude to you nor did I curse at you. Soundcheck is about audio while camera pre-work is call blocking. The camera crew probably thought Ateez was no different than Blackpink or Beyonce and got a rude awakening. Again this is the venues problem to deal with and KQ neither owns nor controls that entity. Remember KQ/Ateez are invited guest there not paying clients...the rule nothing. When you talk about how lacking in creative direction who are you comparing them too? What type of budget do they have? I have every fandom, even the massively big, complain about this so I am going chalk this up to raging for not keeping up with the Jones ie; the grass always looks greener on the other side. As for the storyline, there is a BtoB: Kiss the Radio episode with Jongho, Wooyoung and Yeosang (January 6, 2023) where they explain the strategy behind how the storyline is used. You may not like their reasoning but it makes logical sense. Since you say you are a stan of Ateez I suggest you checkout the whole show as it contains good information that every Atiny should know; an Atiny (1024withme) provides subtitles for the episode. Please re-watch the kingdom episode before going off about Hongjoong not getting credit. Captain didn't even know the name of nor could he find the Dvorak music he was thinking of. He described it then Eden and Leez found it and put it together to all of their satisfaction. So Hongjoong had the "idea" but he did not "do the work"; his seniors did so they get the credit. It's like me describing the perfect dress to a designer and when they pull it together to my liking I take credit for the work. I may have inspired them to do it but I did not do it. Kingdom showcased that Hongjoong is very creative and intuitive and the only thing holding him back was inexperience. You got the sense that he would be great creative force in the industry and it is proving to be true.
@passion.young.feverwithtre69874 ай бұрын
@@Robbiebear1 They're really not that bad at marketing, why do you think Ateez would be at Coachella if they were bad at marketing🤨 They're doing interviews in the states and announcing Tours at a moment they're trending. That doesn't sound like bad marketing at all lol. Plus the camerawork for week 2 is way better lol. That's not KQ's fault, its Coachella's Sahara stage Cameraman/people's. We've seen their KZbin channel, anytime they post a concert/stage performance, the camerawork is good lol. And the company is the one who created the storyline in the first place, they and Ateez can choose whatever direction to go with it! Hope this helps! Without them and the members, Atz would just be another normal talented kpop group. Oh! And they're back to world A, you're just an Atiny that can't keep up with their concept, and that's perfectly fine! But maybe pay attention more, it helps!🧏🏾♀
@Robbiebear14 ай бұрын
@@passion.young.feverwithtre6987 ain’t nobody reading all that but OK believe what you want. 🩷
@lovinglifeforreaal56894 ай бұрын
Ok weirdo
@vali30254 ай бұрын
You must really like Ateez to lie like that. They did not do good but bc no one cares abt them kpop stans didn't pay attention to their performance
@farzana_rr4 ай бұрын
And you must be a salty hater to be spewing lies like this. So many international news outlets were singing praises for them for both weekends (Billboard, LA Times, TimesNow India, Vanity Fair France and more). Even Korean news outlets (SBS, KBS, MBC, Yonhap) are praising them since Ateez also incorporated Korean cultures/elements(?) in their performance, along with their stable vocals. So many kpop stans and non-kpop fans are asking about Ateez after their Coachella performance, especially on Twitter and Tiktok. So many reactors and vocal coaches were in awe after watching their performances.
@vali30254 ай бұрын
@@farzana_rr They made ZERO NOISE. Simple check of their followers before and after Coachella will show you that😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. KZbin? Zero moving. Twitter? Zero moving. Instagram? Zero moving. Spotify streams? Zero moving. Is almost embarrassing watching how no one cared about their performance.Ppl were talking ONLY about Le sserafim and bibi&jackson wang. And the crowd for ateez performance? Non existent! "So many fans are asking"....show me the increasing numbers then. Coachella is all about getting new fans and news flash Ateez flopped in this area cuz NO ONE is talking about them
@sicatsz3 ай бұрын
They got number two best performers for week one so what the hell are running your mouth about. loud and wrong
@vali30253 ай бұрын
@@sicatsz the bar was in HELL, it's not a big achievement
@vali30253 ай бұрын
@@farzana_rr literally NO ONE talked about them besides their fans😭😭😭 it must feel terrible to be this delusional