Salty K-POP Rants Cuz SM is like a Toxic Ex-boyfriend.

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The K-pop Spy

The K-pop Spy

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@Nobody2060-lg2kl
@Nobody2060-lg2kl 5 ай бұрын
1. Hybe really annoys me esp. with the lack of care they have for their artists vocal health. For ex wtf is source music forcing lsrfm to belt out low notes when literally all of them sing better in a higher vocal range
@TheJacqueswong
@TheJacqueswong 5 ай бұрын
same with ILLIT too. Their collab with JYP exposed that.
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@TheJacqueswong magnetic ain't some vocal heavy song
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq 5 ай бұрын
you sure about that?
@JohnnyGriffin-kp3sv
@JohnnyGriffin-kp3sv 5 ай бұрын
@@ItsFine-j1odoesn’t matter how vocal heavy it is, if it isn’t in their range their not going to sound good.
@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy
@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy 5 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyGriffin-kp3svNo the range doesn’t matter any decent vocalist can sing Magnetic what i mean by that is that the song does not require intricate notes it is simple and basic if you had vocal lessons
@i_332
@i_332 5 ай бұрын
Fair line distribution isn’t always equal line distribution
@Gojo-ki-poookie
@Gojo-ki-poookie 5 ай бұрын
2. THIS. Different voices will suit different songs, u cant expect them to lessen the quality of the songs just cuz fans r so butthurt over it. In some cases we can apply it but honestly idols couldnt care less. Shuhua for example, she herself didnt want much lines in songs
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
Why you think 2 min songs exist than . Most companies doesn't care about quality. It's all about getting cash
@Gojo-ki-poookie
@Gojo-ki-poookie 5 ай бұрын
@@ItsFine-j1o by quality i mean the vocalists having the most vocal part. Obviously the ones with better vocals or with viacls suiting the songs better will have more lines
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@Gojo-ki-poookie that I agree
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
3. Agree. People tend to forget that K-Pop's growth in popularity outside East Asia happened in Latin America and Thailand, interestingly. BTS was already pretty popular in Brazil in 2014.
@Bllinkworld
@Bllinkworld 5 ай бұрын
Thailand one is obvious its because of lisa
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
@@Bllinkworld I was saying K-Pop was already popular outside East Asia before becoming popular in the United States. Thailand was an example, and the presence of Thai idols like Lisa only accentuated this.
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@Bllinkworld kpop was popular there way before the existence of blackpink
@user-riahmesphere
@user-riahmesphere 5 ай бұрын
@@Bllinkworldkpop in Thailand existed before Lisa be fr. The girl doesn’t even promote her country that much
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 5 ай бұрын
@@Bllinkworldwhat about nichkhun bambam sorn etc
@nahh9580
@nahh9580 5 ай бұрын
I both agree and disagree on #2 cuz' it's an easy fix in my opinion. 1. IF you have a group of 5 members, atleast make the song more than 3minutes, some songs this days barely even get to 3 2. Let the members atleast harmonize in some lines so they share the distribution plus they get vocals not yet heard by fans 3. Don't have group that has many member when you can't do the 2 above 4. Don't have group that has many member when some can not shine in a whole album, it's ok if some don't shine in one song but it's different when they almost have no presence in other songs.
@yassyboo
@yassyboo 5 ай бұрын
The thing with triples units is that they are not permanent, more like nct u, they bring together the girls who match the concept and the music
@zeid9828
@zeid9828 5 ай бұрын
3. True. People often forget that China and India are made up almost 18% each of the world's population and China being the #1 purchasing power worldwide. China just have their own ecosystem of social media and that's why people always disregard the group's popularity because they can't see it on the mainstream social media.
@agentlemon3164
@agentlemon3164 5 ай бұрын
Yuqi hhas been dominating the chinese market its why her group and solo is selling albums like hotcake and its frustrating that sm wont allow ningning to bridge the chinese audience.
@oreotigercat
@oreotigercat 5 ай бұрын
The Asian market is so much bigger and more important than the U.S market.
@ivansalas9334
@ivansalas9334 5 ай бұрын
It is the #1 music market tho
@s.hjawed9247
@s.hjawed9247 2 ай бұрын
US market is bigger both in size and money it generates so lets not spread misinfo
@vivid_blossoms
@vivid_blossoms 5 ай бұрын
For number 3: My impression was that BTS actually likes being under BigHit/ HYBE. Why wouldn’t they? Bighit literally launched them to be the biggest boyband (or whatever they are classified as) of today. They also have a lot of freedoms compared to other companies/ groups. Also, I’ve been seeing on HYBE’s community posts that BTS made HYBE and like, yeah but also no. BTS didn’t promote themselves, they didn’t do marketing or book gigs or anything like that (as far as I know and I’m comparing to seventeen who did do their own marketing). I think the fans are claiming that but BTS is fine where they are.
@Seunghancomebackhome
@Seunghancomebackhome 5 ай бұрын
Jaehyun being main vocalist surprised everyone
@baccano5003
@baccano5003 5 ай бұрын
What do you mean? 😅
@Seunghancomebackhome
@Seunghancomebackhome 5 ай бұрын
@@baccano5003 he doesnt get treated like a sub vocalist let alone main
@eliquos
@eliquos 5 ай бұрын
​@@Seunghancomebackhome fr
@ithoughtiwascishet1316
@ithoughtiwascishet1316 5 ай бұрын
2. i somewhat agree but want to add something: i feel like some groups are way too rigid about their positions. high notes are one thing, but there's no reason the main vocalist has to be the one to sing the line that literally anyone in the group could. even more so for rappers. if one of the song's "raps" is just rhyming two sentences, literally anyone can do that. groups that can't sing are probably struggling with this, but if that's not the case, there's no reason for line distributions to be so extremely skewed. i'm not talking 5 seconds, i'm talking 19 seconds versus 50 for 2 other members in a *unit song*. there's just no reason at that point.
@nahh9580
@nahh9580 5 ай бұрын
Yup. my thought on the line distribution was to let the members harmonize so atleast they share the length. I know of a pop group in another country that do this and that group never had an issue about it, and the rapper part I agree as well also there is so many songs with rap parts that destroys the flow of the whole song bcuz the word that should rhyme don't even rhyme they just sound close but not not necessarily rhyme itself even if it is in Korean it still didnt rhyme
@Shts-n7h
@Shts-n7h 5 ай бұрын
4. I agree. At first I wished they should leave Hybe but can't say the same thing now
@FaveDike
@FaveDike 5 ай бұрын
Yh I think leaving a big company like sm is a risky move so a lot of idols won't leave but Why would a company sabotage thier groups just so they won't be bigger than the company 😮😮
@ummuilham3119
@ummuilham3119 5 ай бұрын
eSeM is like a mother with Narcistics Personality Disorder (NPD). This evil mother wants her sons & daughters to perfect in all skills, sucks most money they made, but hates to see them to be more shinning than her. eSeM wants to be a star as celebrity company in entertainment industry, and hates so much to see its artists having more fans supporting them than people supporting eSeM. Why? If artists are populer and powerful than the company itself, those artists are difficult to be controlled by company. NPD personality loves money, but this entity loves "control" or "power" as #1 favor. If the artists can not be controlled, this company will destroy the artists lives. Just to show to public "eSeM is the most powerful company in Kpop industry". When the artists get destroyed financially (no pay/very small amount payments for years) and get blocked from entertainment industry, these artists will loose their shinning aura in public. Then people will believe: anyone leaving eSeM will loose his career and only eSeM can make them shinning brightly; these artists can't do anything without eSeM.
@bluedrakken
@bluedrakken 5 ай бұрын
... the answer is money. Blackpink outgrew YG, now 3/4 members got their on company.
@chaneljen9153
@chaneljen9153 5 ай бұрын
3. I’ve seen so many rookie kpop groups on Instagram luring the indian audience by creating reels on hindi and tamil songs on their reels . And it’s not surprising to see the views get a boost in matter of few days.
@Gojo-ki-poookie
@Gojo-ki-poookie 5 ай бұрын
7. If they do, SM hits them with the sue card
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@Gojo-ki-poookie idols hit with sue card, sm hit with blocking from all over korea card
@hees_mine
@hees_mine 5 ай бұрын
@@ItsFine-j1o when jessica from snsd speaks out be like:
@user-cj5tm3te7c
@user-cj5tm3te7c 5 ай бұрын
@@hees_mine it started with jyj
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 5 ай бұрын
@@user-cj5tm3te7cwasn’t it technically hangeng?
@user-cj5tm3te7c
@user-cj5tm3te7c 5 ай бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360 he was chinese, he just left sm (Same as lay of exo, he left sm but he isn't blocked by sm)
@NaswidaNalunjogi
@NaswidaNalunjogi 5 ай бұрын
Agree with 4. 5.is really painful. Feeling sorry for girls,.
@aswin5151
@aswin5151 5 ай бұрын
2.thats exactly what happened for illit while singing magnetic
@dontcrosstheline-skz-oneus
@dontcrosstheline-skz-oneus 5 ай бұрын
triples is girl version of nct.
@Amandine___
@Amandine___ 5 ай бұрын
Are you gonna talk about I-land 2 tomorrow? I’m genuinely pissed Sujung didn’t make it to the top 10 finalists
@Leila_isthebest
@Leila_isthebest 5 ай бұрын
5. i also wanna add a group because i really don’t think class;y is going to have another comeback they have been doing solo songs and one was just for their company’s makeup brand and the other song from chaewon did not get any promotions at all and they group only works with other groups of that company
@MayaLove777
@MayaLove777 5 ай бұрын
I'm happy that Cocoro who was a member of Cherry Bullet got a second chance to debut in ME:I
@melodyShaffronICHILLIN_fan
@melodyShaffronICHILLIN_fan 5 ай бұрын
8. I don't know. I think TripleS music is subjective loke music in general, and that's fine. Some will like it, and some won't.
@ShellyNooby
@ShellyNooby 5 ай бұрын
Can you you tell us or list the name of the groups you clip in the background your videos? I’m a new kpop Stan and I wanna get into more groups, so I’m curious about the names of the groups u use in the backgrounds of your video. Thank you it would be really helpful, I’ve seen some look really cool but I don’t know theyre names. :)
@Sheepy16able
@Sheepy16able 5 ай бұрын
I`m not sure with every group because I`m more a girlgroup stan but this is what i can tell you: 1. Fancam: NMIXX, a 4th Gen girlgroup under JYP Entertainment with very good vocals 2 Fancam: Mamamoo, a 3rd Gen Girlgroup, originally under RBW Entertainment but 2 of the members left the agency, all of the members are soloists too, also very good vocals 3. Fancam: not sure 4. Fancam: Red Velvet, a 3rd Gen Girlgroup under SM Entertainment with very good vocals too, currently have a new song called Cosmic 5. Fancam: BTS (I guess they speak for themselves xD) 6. Fancam: Red Velvet again 7. Fancam: Twice, a 3rd Gen Girlgroup under JYP Entertainment, 2 of the members are soloists too 8. Fancam: BBGirls formerly known as Brave Girls, a group i personally stan :) originally debuted under Brave Entertainment but they left and changed name to BBGirls, they are now kinda independent 9. Fancam: I guess thats Oneus but I`m not sure 10. Fancam: not sure 11. Fancam: Riize, a 5th Gen Boygroup under SM Entertainment 12. Fancam: not sure I`m not really helpful with the boygroups but i hope it still helps :) :)
@sato_prettyvillage323
@sato_prettyvillage323 5 ай бұрын
5. I feel bad for Cherry Bullet, because they had the hype back in 2019 and FNC absolutely fumbled the bag with them. On a more positive note though! Former Cherry Bullet, Kato Kokoro (currently goes by "Cocoro") has debuted in Jpop group ME:I, which is the winning group from Produce 101 Japan The Girls! ME:I seems to be the hottest thing amongst Japanese girl groups rn, hahaha
@laetitiac9890
@laetitiac9890 5 ай бұрын
The first opinion removes Yuqi, the girls from Stayc etc
@RUBY-db5ii
@RUBY-db5ii 5 ай бұрын
Actually first🎉
@modellodime
@modellodime 5 ай бұрын
7. SM preventing what YG couldn’t prevent, BLACKPINK literally became bigger than their own label…
@danielrubinstein896
@danielrubinstein896 3 ай бұрын
SM would hate that, I think that's the reason why RV isn't big enough is because SM doesn't want their groups to be bigger than them
@s.hjawed9247
@s.hjawed9247 2 ай бұрын
MAMAMOO built RBW as well but didn't two members left already?? Why can't BTS if they feel like? Why do we think theyre happy with everything? Did they say that? No. Creative freedom is a separte thing from Album amd music DISTRIBUTION and MANAGEMENT ... BTS can have own studios where they can hire anyone even Bighits OWN producers if they want to we are assuming they won't, Blackpnk left too for their solo career, and so can BTS members, we are assuming they have autonomy over EVERY aspect is crazy when printing and distribution that includes radio and playlisting is NOT artist job nor they have any idea regarding that. Bighit a&r is Poor as heck way poorer than hybes other subsidiaries and other kpop labels. If any member wants whole autonomy that includes not waiting for finance approval and CEO approvals for mere music video and checking if the a&r even doing their job, what's the issue then? Why cant bts leave just because we think they're very well marketed and every aspect is handled well when it's not the case. Why did blackpnk and mamamoo and taemin leave for solo career??
@zombiepup48
@zombiepup48 5 ай бұрын
08:54 the subunits arent temporary so ofc its always a new one lol
@LeonorIsabel
@LeonorIsabel 5 ай бұрын
1. Im happy jennie now has more liberty, contrary of what people say jennie loves rapping she has said it but she loves singing so she will be able to sing more now!
@repkarynst-mu2kk
@repkarynst-mu2kk 5 ай бұрын
she sounds like she's taking a huge dump when she sings - SPOT is an example 😂 Her voice is annoying af
@Shts-n7h
@Shts-n7h 5 ай бұрын
She has no talent except being attention seeker
@repkarynst-mu2kk
@repkarynst-mu2kk 5 ай бұрын
she sounds like she's taking a huge dump when she sings - SPOT is an example 😂 Her voice is annoying af
@repkarynst-mu2kk
@repkarynst-mu2kk 5 ай бұрын
she sounds like she's taking a huge dump - SPOT is an example
@KhadaJhin04
@KhadaJhin04 5 ай бұрын
I just find it strange that you talked about every group that's left SM except for EXO, not saying you should but the issue is fresh, and since you didn't, here's my perspective, the reason EXO won't leave is because they will be making waves by going against the company that's mistreating them, because the legal system and the GP will side with SM over EXO if there's a dispute for the name, they know that it will gain them notoriety, and in the industry that's trying so hard to erase them, it's not exactly the smartest thing to do, it's really frustrating because EXO are still really, REALLY famous, they sold the most albums they have yet last year with EXIST, they really have all what it takes to save the current Kpop, as they did 12 years ago...They are a beacon of light to hold onto in these dark times but you're being gaslit into thinking they aren't worth your time, it's time to let go of the archaic idea that you're past your prime once you hit 30, and I genuinely wish people would talk about EXO more to facilitate the exist of other members from that crappy company, they have set a lot of trends before, I am sure they wouldn't mind being pioneers once more.
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
1- Than company should recruit idols who can actually hit high note or belt instead of letting their idols scream and destroying their voice 3- The only fandom and company that cares about US market are army/hybe. Just like you gave the example of Bollywood, apart from SRK, no one actually making money outside India in every single film but that doesn't means others are having flop films. These western obsessed bts fans think korean , chinese and Japanese market are nothing 😂 Fact is majority of groups depends on these three markets instead of US. But they will Never agree because of their narrative of bts paving the way.
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
The only company who cares about the US market is HYBE? Seriously? Almost all groups from the last five years have at least one member who speaks English and release regular versions of their songs in English, if not original singles completely in English. SuperM was one of the most desperate attempts by a company to make it in the United States and SNSD and Wonder Girls also tried to make a significant entry into the American music market in their time. It's crazy for you to say that the only company or fandom that seeks "western validation" is HYBE when there's SM and YG, that, by the way, submitted Blackpink for best new artist at the 2020 Grammys. Have you been following Kpop for the past 6 years or are you just cynical? If the American musical industry is not the priority of the current generation of K-Pop, then it's the Japanese one. Chinese BARS are still super important, of course, but it's impossible to deny there was a gap formed between K-Pop and the Chinese music market because of all the bans that happened in China targeting Korean idol groups. Just look at how the number of Chinese idols has decreased considerably compared to the second and third generation of K-Pop and notice how it's unlikely that a project like EXO will happen these days. It's not crazy to say that K-Pop's current focus is the Japanese market (as the second-largest music market in the world) and the USA market, especially because you have a bunch of groups that are popular in the west but relatively unknown in SK like Stray Kidz or Ateez.
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@paulamendes9432 fans of wonder girls or snsd or anyone aren't calling anyone nugu or flop like army if they don't chart on US
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@paulamendes9432 also targeting for US and thinking success means charting on US is the only thing are different. Like Those bollywood films. Everyone is targeting foreign Market but they don't call their films flop if they fail to make money on foreign
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
@@ItsFine-j1o I understand what you're trying to do when you talk about Bollywood, however, it's a marketing comparison that doesn't make sense because India is the most populous country on the planet. It is a gigantic country with an enormous internal cultural and media demand due to its large population, just like China. Mei Qi received more votes in a survival reality show than Donald Trump did to become the president of the USA; these are countries with huge demographics, and there is no way you can compare their artistic industry with any other on the planet. It just doesn't make sense.
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
@@ItsFine-j1o Bruh, if your point is just a bunch of unoccupied teenagers from a large fandom being annoying on Twitter, then you can just look for other examples of this happening in any other K-Pop fandom. Blinks love to mock Twice's numbers on the Billboard Hot 100 using Blackpink's numbers as an attack while claiming Blackpink reached the general public in the United States, for example.
@moonshyein
@moonshyein 5 ай бұрын
4. Why would BTS leave the company they built..?? If anything, BTS should be the ones to take over HYBE after that old man retires. 😭😭😭
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
4- most of bts song are written and produced by inhouse songwriter and producer. Bts might have huge creative freedom in their solo song but not in their group songs
@ItsFine-j1o
@ItsFine-j1o 5 ай бұрын
@@Annamarie250 they are involved in rap part while rest are written by someone else. Same goes with production.Most bts songs are produced by inhouse producer like pdogg, slow rabbit
@R2Mw19
@R2Mw19 5 ай бұрын
@@Annamarie250 Facts!
@pheonix9929
@pheonix9929 5 ай бұрын
Lol no one cares about those in house producers. BTS members can have their own agency and can get new production team and the fans will still support them....Because Bighit or Hybe never tried to overshadow the brand name BTS and Armys dont even care about their company. Most of the armys just support Hybe because of BTS not the vice versa.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq 5 ай бұрын
@@Annamarie250 LMAO RM's recent album was not produced by him. He co-wrote it along with dozen other producers and songwriters. ARMYs carry RM as some genius songwriter, which is overhyped alot. He may have ideas and thoughts in mind, but his work is not a reflection of his sole thoughts but a collaboration with other producers. And this is okay, since its his views he's sharing through music. But a lot of times ARMYs discredit actual main producers in the album and give all credits to RM which isn't fair.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq 5 ай бұрын
@@Vicky00581 not much as SEVENTEEN and GIDLE. Their creative freedom is limited and controlled. The songs you mentioned are very few here and there that they write. Doesn't even make most of their discography. This also includes SOLO work. Except SUGA, the other two rappers have a lot of producers and songwriters doing it for them (mixtapes excluded). Talking about songs is part of PR, don't fall for that. Tbh BTS has changed their old perspective and now has fallen victim to being cash cows for HYBE.
@btsismyoxyjin2013
@btsismyoxyjin2013 5 ай бұрын
Why do you even use Aespa thumbnail when there's nothing about them😅I just watch video because I thought you are expressing opinion because they release Hot mess short version.
@nylehjohnson4560
@nylehjohnson4560 5 ай бұрын
Maybe because the title was about SM
@btsismyoxyjin2013
@btsismyoxyjin2013 5 ай бұрын
@@nylehjohnson4560 hm that's a good point
@btsismyoxyjin2013
@btsismyoxyjin2013 5 ай бұрын
@@nylehjohnson4560 just wasted so much for that
@phantoms2053
@phantoms2053 5 ай бұрын
5th.
@mingkyumin
@mingkyumin 5 ай бұрын
Idols don’t leve sm BCUZ if they do they will be blacklisted and cloned
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq 5 ай бұрын
4. BTS would flunk if it weren't for HYBE marketing.
@pheonix9929
@pheonix9929 5 ай бұрын
Lol😂
@swathycs2533
@swathycs2533 5 ай бұрын
lol!!!!!!!!!
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
You guys are always so willing to take BTS' merits away from them, it's amusing.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq 5 ай бұрын
@@paulamendes9432 give me one example where BTS would've carried the song without HYBE's help.
@paulamendes9432
@paulamendes9432 5 ай бұрын
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq Explain to me your condescending point, because you just said a vague sentence without proving any arguments. What are you even saying? That BTS is solely dependent on the company they made big?
@ZareSamo-cn8pr
@ZareSamo-cn8pr 5 ай бұрын
In dis moment XG❤ is best KPOP / JPOP femal gg.
@Santia5a
@Santia5a 5 ай бұрын
Stop ruining fandom imige, don't be like some of other groups "fanatics".
@emiscommentingaccount96
@emiscommentingaccount96 5 ай бұрын
They're neither K-Pop nor J-Pop, though 😅 (But we can agree that they're a great group :)
@key-s6507
@key-s6507 5 ай бұрын
Stop it and be kind....if you're really a fan,
@chongwingkong2043
@chongwingkong2043 5 ай бұрын
Communist china channal again😅😅😅
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