BRUTALLY Honest About Sonus Faber - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

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@chuckferguson5066
@chuckferguson5066 Жыл бұрын
Adrian, please let me say how much I appreciate your videos, and how impressed I am with your poise and presence on camera. You are a gifted media star. Today you spoke about comparing early S-F speakers to Wilson Audio, and I’m struck by how people like me-not in the business-can only evaluate sound by comparison, not as an absolute or stand-alone value. I am always hoping that your videos will say, “I put this piece of equipment side-by-side with its competitor, and these are the differences I heard…”. To me, that is the most valuable information you can give me. Thanks again for all you do. Chuck Ferguson
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck. We do try to make videos that compare similarly priced options.
@epi2045
@epi2045 Жыл бұрын
Love Sonus Fabre. It makes the audiophile happy and the significant other feel happy too.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!!
@garrycleak3055
@garrycleak3055 11 ай бұрын
Faber
@2kdesignstudios72
@2kdesignstudios72 Жыл бұрын
I watch a ton of hifi KZbin from affordable up to unrealistic (for my budget). This is by far my favorite "series". Great work!
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@vivaitalia1520
@vivaitalia1520 Жыл бұрын
Love this series Adrian. A really insightful and fresh take in the reviewing space.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jazzlouise
@jazzlouise Жыл бұрын
Adrian, it's refreshing to have someone give the real scoop on their products.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@joshklein6450
@joshklein6450 Жыл бұрын
Just a wonderful concept/series Adrian! Always informative, entertaining and enlightening. Just such a huge shame I am in the States and cannot take advantage of having you and your staff as my go to dealer…bummer! Wonderful, and thank you all the same.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@Brunodc4694
@Brunodc4694 11 ай бұрын
What a Beautifully Honest analogy in the comparison about hearing the Sonus Faber and feeling like you're first love. I'm still waiting for mine anxiously. I experienced my first true love in Rome Italy where I grew up. Can't wait to feel that feeling again. Hearing you for the first time today and I'm hooked. It's an honor knowing we share that same first time feeling.
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 Жыл бұрын
Adrian these video's are a massive help to potential buyers. One of the contributing reasons I purchased the JC5 (Your take on Parasound amps in the past) Thank you
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!!
@louissmith6074
@louissmith6074 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Just traded my sonetto to V for the Olympics Nova V (same as behind you). I can say that they are just so beautiful in my room. A real work of art. And, they sound amazing. I’ve found no downside in my month of ownership. Thanks for this video.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!!
@javierbello5197
@javierbello5197 7 ай бұрын
Enhorabuena
@Gary_J
@Gary_J 4 ай бұрын
How much % sound improvement upgrading from Sonetto V to Olympia? Thanks
@louissmith6074
@louissmith6074 4 ай бұрын
@@Gary_JI would call it a 100% upgrade on many levels. The Sonettos are nice looking, the Novas are beautiful. Bass, midrange and top end are all Improved over the Sonettos. Overall resolution is greatly improved as well. One you get around 400hrs on them the Bass really opens up. If you have the chance to listen to a pair, do it!
@loudandclearmedia
@loudandclearmedia Жыл бұрын
Loving this series of videos! I've had just one pair of Sonus Faber speakers - the Cremona Auditor M. As you were describing the older SF sound as being only appropriate with some genres of music, I was nodding my head in agreement. The Cremona Auditor Ms were warm to the point of being flawed by it...just thick and gooey. NOT hyper resolving at all, but when they hit a track they got along with, oh boy! Those glimpses of brilliance, along with the stunning aesthetic design is what kept them around for a while. In fairness, I do kind of miss them even though they weren't the best at most things.
@pswitzeny
@pswitzeny Жыл бұрын
Keep 'em coming! What a fresh take for an audio channel. Typically it's a review of a specific speaker but an brand review, to me, is so novel. Love it!
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul
@paulhallford1904
@paulhallford1904 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the award you received at the Canadian audiofest 😁
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fabioalberti2120
@fabioalberti2120 Жыл бұрын
I live in Italy and I have the Sonus Faber Venere Signature which is the only one in the Venere series made in Italy. It's nice to hear the review from a foreign importer, very interesting thank you.
@archivestereo
@archivestereo 3 ай бұрын
You have quickly become my favorite, most trusted audio person on KZbin. Thanks so much!!
@paulm944
@paulm944 Жыл бұрын
I love this series! These are the best videos I have seen from your team, Thanks!
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mcgjohn22
@mcgjohn22 Жыл бұрын
nice summary. Have owned several pairs of SFs as well as the W brand and the rockports. Two things you did not mention. 1. Which speaker keeps you in your listening chair the longest? 2. the larger Sonus Fabers are efficient but have a really low impedance curve at the lower frequencies so you need an amp that can drive 2 ohm loads easily. But same is true for some models of the W brand as well.
@MAKESQ
@MAKESQ Жыл бұрын
l had a very weird experience trying to trade in my Sonus Faber Cremona Auditors. No dealer in the NY area wanted to take them in trade. They are very nice speakers, with a slightly warm, and very smooth and detailed sound for bookshelf size speakers. Yet, apparently, there is no no demand for them. I was told by one highly respected dealer that they have a "European" sound, meaning soft on the bass, I think. He said Americans want more bass, more room presence. So I sold them on Ebay.
@emanemanrus5835
@emanemanrus5835 11 ай бұрын
well, Cremona are not exactly "party speakers": cannot drop basses like DJs in techno-clubs!
@thezzz8
@thezzz8 2 ай бұрын
Rednecks americans...
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
They are amazing speakers and actually go pretty low for stand mounts. They also have a slight bass lift below 100hz, meaning they can be quite full in that range (depending upon placement). They work very well with a subtly dialled in sub to extend their range below 40hz too) but the Sebrlin-era SF speakers are all about subtlety - it's definitely not the speaker for hip hop or people that think that Beats make the best headphones :D Try Cerwin Vega :D
@PBlaik
@PBlaik Жыл бұрын
Great video series. I almost didn't want to hear other speakers at your shop because the Amati's are beautiful and sounded great, if I heard something better I'd be torn 😆
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Your speakers are wonderful!!!
@damianwaiwiri4605
@damianwaiwiri4605 Жыл бұрын
I've owned my sonetto 1s for 6 months now and love them so much the fact that they can play many types of music and sound so good doing it had me sold on them when I auditioned them
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!!
@jazzcat0269
@jazzcat0269 11 ай бұрын
Great points! I love my Cremonas L/R/C with REL sub.....Beautifully built, and still sound great (Jazz/Home Theatre)...They are power hungry, though, a true lifetime investment. I had a bought a Lexicon receiver RV-8 at the same time which was a huge disappointment and a bad recommendation! It died within 5 years. I will also say this. It is really important to understand how the sound travels in your room: i.e. number of speakers, size and placement.... Considering wall treatment...Is it worth it? I am glad I found your channel.
@Dark_Vader888
@Dark_Vader888 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this on a hazy Sat morning with coffee was such a joy and pleasure. Thank you for such enagaging and interesting content.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ศรีวิวัธน์เคลือบสุวรรณ
@ศรีวิวัธน์เคลือบสุวรรณ Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest truth.... Waiting for your takes on Wilson's Speakers 😊
@joelowens5211
@joelowens5211 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of mono VAC 452 IQ music blocks 1 to each speaker. My speakers are Sonus Faber Aida 2's in Wenge finish. All Dragon cables with Vivaldi stack. VAC master pre-amp. Wilsons to me are more clinical. I like to get lost in the music and have it wash over me. For me it's the perfect system.
@kaaloo
@kaaloo Жыл бұрын
Love your authentic discussion based on your extensive experience ❤ Great job, keep up the good work!
@DaveNeumann-c4s
@DaveNeumann-c4s Жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian, I just found this video and love your honest review. How do you feel about the original Stradivaris (which I own) compared to the new version of this speaker? Thanks for the great work!
@estebanmedaglia4506
@estebanmedaglia4506 Жыл бұрын
I read that the new, just announced active streaming wireless speaker is also made in China. But not sure if this is true.
@kimauten7343
@kimauten7343 4 ай бұрын
I am upgrading to the lumina v amator. Thanks for the reassurance that I have made the right choice!
@TheKent2288
@TheKent2288 Жыл бұрын
Please keep it coming! Thanks :)
@rickcarlson5916
@rickcarlson5916 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian, great review keep up the good work!
@MasterofPlay7
@MasterofPlay7 Жыл бұрын
Saw you today at the Audio Fest at Acora Acoustics room
@jaycabral5378
@jaycabral5378 Жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video series.
@dexterts1
@dexterts1 Жыл бұрын
I had that exact problem on one of my Lumina 3’s,that the “point” did not touch the tweter,i tought it was normal🤦‍♂️ I had them for like 4 months and i just couldn’t get them to sound right and then sold them. Wondering if that could’ve been a problem 🤷‍♂️. Another great video,you should do more of theses
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
More coming
@bikemike1118
@bikemike1118 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful! Thanks very much, Adrian ❤
@kennethsrdal3602
@kennethsrdal3602 Жыл бұрын
Love the details, the knowledge and the history you share from years back. Could have listened for hours. I like the big sound picture of floor standing speakers and i'm thinking of upgrading to a pair of either Lumina 5, Sonetto III or Sonetto 5. My current setup is not the newest and low budget compared to these, but i enjoy listening to them. It's Argon Audio 6355FS driven by a Denon DRA-700AE. Which one of the SF would you prefer and would my Denon fit any of these?
@jeffreypicciolo7706
@jeffreypicciolo7706 Жыл бұрын
love the honesty, great job
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@KrzysiekSid
@KrzysiekSid 7 ай бұрын
Oh dear... Both of my Sonetto Vs are faulty in terms of DAD tweeter as the pines are not touching the dome. Do you know from which SN number they fixed the production line?
@kevinpayne3482
@kevinpayne3482 Жыл бұрын
My local hi-fi shop “speaker shop” here in Buffalo New York 7v years ago allowed me to do a multi-speaker comparison that I did over several weeks and the finalists were the sonus Fabre venera 300 versus the kef r700 and I chose the kef’s that I still have to this day
@stevenbullock9276
@stevenbullock9276 Жыл бұрын
Been to the Speaker Shop many times. Dangerous place. That’s where I got hooked on the Lumina V’s. Now, I guess I’ll have to check the tweeters 🙄
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
Probably the better choice. I had some Venere's on home demo and they didn't impress at all. A rare mis-step by SF IMO
@robinr5787
@robinr5787 Жыл бұрын
Wow, you had me worried about the tweeter! Sprinted to my early Lumina V, but all good there. Probably the issue was already sorted before release of the V (as it was the newest in the line).
@alfonzooliviera1121
@alfonzooliviera1121 Жыл бұрын
Adrian LOVE THESE. Do not stop do not change. Keep it just you. AQ and Nordost and Magnepan pls
@guyb7005
@guyb7005 Жыл бұрын
Great video and description, but the 'good' was so minimal and mostly on aesthetics and craftsmanship, not on sound quality or performance. That makes your closing statement confusing.
@OmarSharif-mi3ql
@OmarSharif-mi3ql Ай бұрын
Dear Brother, You have saved us a lot.
@igorfridrich1070
@igorfridrich1070 10 ай бұрын
I love my Sonettos 2 ... works really well with NAD c399 .. but I'm already saving money for the Olympica Nova 2 😝
@lamaludwig1470
@lamaludwig1470 Жыл бұрын
Love your content. Are you planning to make a video about the Maxima Amator or can you say how versatile or specialised they are?
@stevejones8393
@stevejones8393 Жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of the Guinari Homages w/ stands back in 2003. Still love them besides their unique style of strung grills.
@magicmulder
@magicmulder 9 ай бұрын
As for weight, don't the large ones come with their own transport carts? Still probably need 2 people to safely move, but not impossible. It's not like you'd take apart the Wilsons if you just wanted to move them a bit, either. :D The Aida 2 is one of the three best speakers I ever heard (along with the Bayz Audio Counterpoint and the MBL 101 X-Treme). Curious to hear their new Suprema.
@Smog104
@Smog104 2 ай бұрын
I’ve got Sonus Faber Amati 4th Generation in Redwood. Beautiful speakers My second pair in a different room are Bang and Olufsen Beolab 9 they are active . SF are driven by a Devialet expert pro 1000 , a Bang and Olufsen cd/tape player the Overture range and the deck is a Clear Audio Master Solution Turntable with a Koetsu Rosewood signature cartridge. The BnO are driven by a BnO streamer and I use a Beocenter 2 for CDs Both are excellent systems. One costs considerably more than the other !
@HermesTrismegistes369
@HermesTrismegistes369 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you! THE GOOD THE BAD THE UGLY ❤
@sirotin_oleg
@sirotin_oleg Жыл бұрын
Hello Adrian, thank you very much for your videos! I always watch your channel with great pleasure. I have one question for you: what cable harness do you recommend to your customers in conjunction with Sonus Fabrer and McIntosh?
@akaGoolash
@akaGoolash Жыл бұрын
Nice material. Do you have Dali speakers to make a similar "brutally honest" ? :)
@vladimirdorta6692
@vladimirdorta6692 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian, you are so honest, this is exactly what I think about Sonus faber.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@biggles5633
@biggles5633 5 ай бұрын
Great review thank you
@barta844
@barta844 Жыл бұрын
I had 2 pairs of the Stradivari several years ago and the only speakers I've had/sold that I miss.
@sand0077
@sand0077 Жыл бұрын
I came across four early edition (1980's?) Electa's all painted white with a hideous white, stained grille cloth at a local thrift shop. Very heavy for their size and well built. Got them for $30, then rushed them home, tested them for shorts and found them okay. Went to hear them and was impressed with the sound quality and soundstage where the speakers seem to disappear. That gave me the motivation to cosmetically restore them and now I'm enjoying them daily. Oddly after stripping the paint, I found one pair having wood finish while the other pair what appeared to be bare mdf. I wonder why that was on such a quality speaker that not all have a nice wood finish? 🤔
@chihweiteng253
@chihweiteng253 Жыл бұрын
So true about the older generation being limited in scope. And I realised that even within the range, there appears to be some specialisation, though I'm sure it was not intended. e.g. the 1st gen Guarneri was so good in strings whereas the affordable Concerto excels in piano better than the Guarneri. Interestingly I had the chance to plug both sets of speakers into an amp with A+B channels and played both at the same time. I can tell you.. it sounded really surreal in an amazing way.
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
Just like an orchestra: You have a string section and a piano soloist :)
@Speccy48k
@Speccy48k Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Heritage series in terms of sound signature? e.g. Maxima Amator. Thanks
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Warmer and more forgiving than the rest
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
As an owner of older generation SF's I think you put it very well..."more music-dependent". If you want to hear the subtle musical inflections of a bow on a viola string they are incredible but if you want to hear some angry, punchy aggression, you'd be better off with something else. Nothing wrong with that, everyone needs to find the speaker that "does it" for them and for what they most enjoy listening to.
@annenominous7220
@annenominous7220 Жыл бұрын
great video, thanks!!
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@johnedwards2696
@johnedwards2696 Жыл бұрын
One issue not mentioned is the strung grilles, I've re-strung my Elipsa floorstanders twice, ditto my Olympica centre. The pair of Cremona floorstanders are into their third set, not a difficult job but very tedious although SF do supply them FOC.
@fraserkatz2081
@fraserkatz2081 Жыл бұрын
I've had the same issue with my Elipsa's. Don't restring, Just take some tweezers, pull each string from the bottom and tie a new knot in the stretched string. The strings are VERY elastic and can be stretched quite a bit. Trim the strings after they have been re-stretched.
@johnedwards2696
@johnedwards2696 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've done this for all of my strung SFs but the elasticity seems to be reduced and the repair does not last for long so, as the new strings are supplied FOC, I think new ones are the best bet.@@fraserkatz2081
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
@@fraserkatz2081 lol yeah that's exactly how I do mine - needs doing about once every couple of years :)
@molecularaudiocanada
@molecularaudiocanada Жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian. I'm curious to know which model of Sonus Faber's are your favorite?
@hifisymphony
@hifisymphony Жыл бұрын
Agree, I am a proud owner of the Nova 5. Love them.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@AudiolandCH
@AudiolandCH Жыл бұрын
I own the Lilium. Wonderful sounding speaker that fills the room
@willbrink
@willbrink Жыл бұрын
Best looking speakers in the biz, but I always find their sound not involving and too warm for my tastes. As you say, perhaps more forgiving of source materials, but I didn't find myself wanting to hear more either, as I do for say ATC.
@edsinger8900
@edsinger8900 Жыл бұрын
Adrian, what’s your thought upgrading from Sonetto V to nova III?
@Michael-xz1nk
@Michael-xz1nk Жыл бұрын
Love your comment about some speakers only sounding good with audiophile recordings. What a waste of time and money. We all have lots of music that we emotionally connect that is not well recorded. So what? It's about the music. Unfortunately, some audiophiles only listen to their systems and not the music and buy accordingly. Oh well...to each their own.
@t.j.bennett6454
@t.j.bennett6454 Жыл бұрын
Are the new serafino more neutral and less genre specific than the previous generation?
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
yes
@alfredoperez2935
@alfredoperez2935 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of upgrading my sonus faber nova 3 to amati g5. What do you think of the update, do you think they would have a dynamic to listen to all types of musical styles. Thank you very much
@dejusns
@dejusns 10 ай бұрын
After watching this video, I’ve checked the tweeters on my Sonetto V’s and noticed they don’t touch the little thing. Should I reach out to my dealer about it? I bought them new a year ago. They sound great to me, but now you got me thinking these are flawed :(
@TravisLohmannMusic
@TravisLohmannMusic Жыл бұрын
going to give the newest Sonus Faber Duettos a try.
@spraguedawley
@spraguedawley 8 ай бұрын
Recently bought a Gravis 1 subwoofer and was disappointed to see it was made in CHINA. Also recently received nova olympica 3 speakers and am ecstatic with their performance.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 6 ай бұрын
I ordered Nova 2 but I should change the order to 3 before paying. They are very expensive though. 19k for the 2 and 25k for the 3. Ridiculous prices really, problem is the manufacturer, distributor, and dealer all want their cut so by the time the buyer hands over the cash it’s 3 times the manufacture cost.
@Like_Whut
@Like_Whut 3 ай бұрын
That's the electronics which Sonus Faber doesn't really make (anymore). The Omnia and Duetto are also made in China.
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
The Gravis is really good. It is a tweaked REL though.
@spraguedawley
@spraguedawley Ай бұрын
@@aussie8114 The Nova 3 is 14K in the US,. If I had the room I would have got the Nova V.
@spraguedawley
@spraguedawley Ай бұрын
@@tested211 I am not saying it does not sound good, but I was hoping for italian made like my speakers.
@KtsStone80
@KtsStone80 Жыл бұрын
Really highlights how good SF speakers are. Resale value is indeed baffling. Not sure how much PCB crossovers matter as long as the components are quality.
@flipfloptanlines926
@flipfloptanlines926 Жыл бұрын
Good breakdown of the brand. Truly beautiful furniture that sounds great is Sonus Faber's wheelhouse. IMO, Chinese made equipment is acceptable for budget or modest products. Im not paying knowingly for what is a "premium" product, manufactured by the lowest bidder with the cheapest labor. It does not mean that a Chinese product like Paradigm doesnt sound great. It just means over a certain price point countries with cheapest labor really have to prove their product superior. China has not reached a level of quality, say like the Swiss with watches. And when audio components are easily $10,000....$20,000......$50,000.....to $100,000 and beyond, a company really has to have no question to its quality of manufacturing.
@erics.4113
@erics.4113 Жыл бұрын
Paradigm are built in Canada - Founder and Persona.
@ycchan4634
@ycchan4634 Жыл бұрын
Which Amati model you taking about?
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 Жыл бұрын
IF you follow ISO standards it really doesn't matter where you build your factory. There is some exelent equipment coming from China, the fact that you don't have to pay the high wages of other countries is just a bonus.
@user-xg6zz8qs3q
@user-xg6zz8qs3q Жыл бұрын
This comment is ignorant to the fact that Western countries lost their manufacturing skills and machinery after outsourcing to China for decades. This is most obvious in the print industry and the textile industry. Many premium brands cannot produce their goods in their country, they have no choice but to outsource to China. When it comes to HiFi, American brands like Klipsch or Grado with mediocre build quality get a pass because they're American-made. Heck, I would bet my house that Klipsch and Grado would be higher quality if they were produced in China.
@flipfloptanlines926
@flipfloptanlines926 Жыл бұрын
@user-xg6zz8qs3q The comment was NOT ignorant to the fact most manufacturing has been exported from western contries, it was highlighting that fact. Thats the whole reason to pay a premium price. Thats why premium brands are only 4% of the market. Obviously the market agrees with Sonus Faber's mistake and almost downfall. A European business, not a US one. Were not debating whether the 96% of products are any good regardless of their origin, im only referring to the 4% of premium customers that will pay a premium to employ folks in their own country or north of their border
@Smog104
@Smog104 2 ай бұрын
Bang and Olufsen have their multi room gear made in China 🇨🇳 . The top end BnO speakers are made in Denmark 🇩🇰 My Scooter is from a British company it’s designed in the UK 🇬🇧 But construction is done in Malaysia 🇲🇾 The BnO Beoplay range is better constructed than any WiFi speaker I’ve seen and my Scooter is built to a very high standard.
@beeemerg6504
@beeemerg6504 Жыл бұрын
Well said .My biggest regret going down the home theater RABBIT HOLE. Could have purchased a decent 2 channel set up
@brentcollins9727
@brentcollins9727 Жыл бұрын
I love my Sonus Faber Sonetto 3’s
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@thereefaholic
@thereefaholic 8 ай бұрын
I would be more concerned about the iron core inductors than I would about the use of PCB morass on the crossovers.
@walterpen371
@walterpen371 Жыл бұрын
The ugly you're talking about is all about poor QUALITY CONTROL in the manufacturing plant. Some technicians were asleep at the wheel, or the lack of technicians (cost cutting) ???? Thanks for sharing valuable audio info.
@paulsnow4181
@paulsnow4181 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of Dynaudio speakers?
@barrypatterson1154
@barrypatterson1154 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what Adrian thinks but for the money you can’t beat them. I auditioned speakers for 3 years and couldn’t believe how incredible the Dynaudio Contour 60i were for $12,000. At half the price of the Focal Sopra 2, it was far superior to me. And yes, far more dynamic than any SF under $50,000. Just my opinion.
@SirMountainpass
@SirMountainpass Жыл бұрын
@@barrypatterson1154 No way the i60 is superior to the Sopra 2 😅
@barrypatterson1154
@barrypatterson1154 Жыл бұрын
@@SirMountainpass As I said, just my opinion. In audio just like everything else, everyone has different tastes. I preferred the overall sound of the Dynaudio. Love their soft dome tweeters. Focal’s Beryllium tweeters are simply too bright for me.
@maxrogers9639
@maxrogers9639 10 ай бұрын
Just listened to a pair in a hi-end audio store and the sound while focused between the speakers the music appeared to come from the floor. While listening I found myself dropping my head downward to the floor. I was disappointed in the presentation.
@tested211
@tested211 Ай бұрын
What was the floor made of? Likely you were hearing the first reflection point from the floor.
@maxrogers9639
@maxrogers9639 Ай бұрын
@tested211 Didn't pay attention to that. I listened to them in a reputable audio store in NC. I just followed their advice and listened. For the asking price I was not impressed. However, your comment suggests that I should give them another try considering first reflections. I am open to that. Thanks
@saltzine
@saltzine Жыл бұрын
:: dig your vids. love my olympica II
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@InvertedWorld88
@InvertedWorld88 9 ай бұрын
Hi Adrian, This video actually steered something up in a few Sonus Faber forums (especially on Facebook), regarding the DAD not touching. There have been reports about the DAD being adjustable and such, but I'm to scared to try and turn/adjust mine. I've tried to contact Sonus Faber itself, but never had a reply (the same as others). It turns out a LOT of people actually have the DAD problem. I have it on my brand new Olympica Nova II's, and a lot have it on Sonneto's, Lumina's etc. Did you ever receive an official response, or what do you guys do? I honestly find it pretty alarming.
@spraguedawley
@spraguedawley 8 ай бұрын
I recently bought Nova 3s and the DAD components are in contact.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 6 ай бұрын
Nice speakers yes, overpriced speakers also yes. I would add an ugly that they deceive on the driver size. They also state the cabinet width as the stand footprint width on the Nova. I think they may also deceive on the drivers being made in house. I think the cones may be but I think the rest of the driver is imported.
@mymixture965
@mymixture965 Жыл бұрын
I still have my "Venere S" and they are made in Italy, so not the complete Venere line was made in China.
@scottdavis0801
@scottdavis0801 6 ай бұрын
Some people online have reviewed the lumina ii as being too harsh/etc. I'm like, why do they sell so well. 😂😂
@Justwantahover
@Justwantahover 5 ай бұрын
Now I know why SF have that arch over the tweeter. 😅
@davidkclayton
@davidkclayton Жыл бұрын
The Aida, 89db @1W/1 m sensitivity ... not 92db, 4ohm speakers you will need to -3db. Because they went volts (2.83V) instead of watts (W=E^2/R), this causes power in watts to double in DUT. Don't be fooled by this trick.
@Exgol2005
@Exgol2005 Жыл бұрын
Wow, exhaustive!
@marksironi3324
@marksironi3324 Жыл бұрын
I still find the Sonus Faber to be less engaging with large scale, dense music. I listened to Amanti Traditions to finally upgrade my aging W/P 6's. With small scale stuff the sound is WONDERFUL, loads of inner detail; you want to hear every tone an nuance of a plucked string these are the speakers for you. But when the music gets big and dense they don't have the dynamics of even the old Wilsons, never mind the new ones. FWIW I ended up with CPO Alexia 2's, after living with the W/P since 1999 I just really like the Wilson sound.
@adrianlow2114
@adrianlow2114 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Mark!
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s Жыл бұрын
don´t have any Sonus-Faber might have to travel 400kms to hear them maybe i would buy or not
@fmtien
@fmtien Жыл бұрын
The sonus faber speakers like to play at a relaxed pace. They like to saunter about. Easy to listen to but not great for critical listening especially if the music is complex and dynamic.
@vladimirdorta6692
@vladimirdorta6692 Жыл бұрын
The KZbin ads are unbelievably bad, they even appear not only at the beginning of the video, but also in the middle of it!
@tothemax324
@tothemax324 Жыл бұрын
ABP is now redundant with the Tube, ads it is now unless you go premium or sign out then ABP works as should
@JohnMoog-ug6bk
@JohnMoog-ug6bk 3 ай бұрын
Are they good with rock?
@fmtien
@fmtien Жыл бұрын
“A picture is worth a thousand words.” -Sonus Faber subwoofer owner’s manual
@michaelmyers7416
@michaelmyers7416 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t people get the point that it is about not exporting jobs from Italy or Canada or the US to China? Quality in this segment of industry is rarely a problem. And most certainly it is not about Chinese because we all love Adrian and I love my neurologist! the point is also not to enrich a totalitarian atheist dictator ship that has been responsible for tens of millions of deaths, and is still one of the most repressive regimes in the world. I certainly feel for the Chinese people but I feel for people in democracies more.
@tedmingolla2847
@tedmingolla2847 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing for a very high end Italian product like Sonus Faber to be perceived as made in China. This is marketing suicide. Even Ferrari cars are marketed as "all genuine Ferrari parts are made in Italy". Even though many Ferrari parts come from China.
@davidbee8178
@davidbee8178 Жыл бұрын
S F . . .they are beautiful yes and nice sounding too . . . but we pay DEARLY for the beautiful lovingly made "boxes" whose beauty alone don't contribute in any significant way to the quality of sound . . . regarding SOUND, there are better values . . . such as Magnepan, and Dynaudio for just two examples out of several
@stevenbullock9276
@stevenbullock9276 Жыл бұрын
I was a little surprised that price wasn’t an “ugly”.
@Like_Whut
@Like_Whut 3 ай бұрын
Are you saying that a speaker cabinet does not affect the sound quality? 😅
@davidbee8178
@davidbee8178 3 ай бұрын
@@Like_Whut No not at all - I must admit I miss-wrote in a sense : when I said "beauty alone" . . . I meant that all the work that went into making the Sonus Faber boxes really beautiful (and therefore expensive) don't really add anything to the sound - all the attention paid to the type of surface treatment, the finish, the attention to detail to make them living room centre pieces, don't really add to the sound in any significant way OTHER than the configuration of the box. But the expensive wood veneers do add to the price tag. No . . . of course the size and shape of the box along with the inner structure make a significant contribution to the sound. In fact some the best speakers I've ever heard don't have a "box" at ALL :-) Cheers and happy listening
@Like_Whut
@Like_Whut 3 ай бұрын
@davidbee8178 A leather or wooden dashboard don't make a Rolls Royce drive any better but for a lot of people when you buy something expensive, you want it to look fancy as well. Nothing wrong with that. Just appreciate the art that the design department of Sonus Faber is capable of making 😊
@davidbee8178
@davidbee8178 3 ай бұрын
@@Like_Whut There you go :-) . . . you've just made an EXCELLENT analogy that illustrates my original point about how some of the expense that goes into making the Sonus Faber speakers beautiful (and I do agree a lot of their models are indeed beautiful) doesn't, as I wrote originally "contribute in any significant way to the quality of the sound" . . . that is NOT to say that they don't sound good or even great! It's just that a Sonus Faber client is PAYING for that beauty ALONG with what he or she perceives is also good or great sound which is ABSOLUTELY FINE! I'm in love with the looks of some of their higher end models like the IL Cremonese EX3ME but unfortunately can ill afford them. However I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of change that at the price they are selling for, there is VERY stiff competition sound wise - although perhaps not looks wise, I'll give you that :-) Some speaker manufacturers might choose to allocate a higher PERCENTAGE of their build costs toward drivers and crossovers etc., rather than lavish investment on exterior laminates and excellent artisan work that goes into making them luxurious looking. Priorities I guess LOL
@tg_ny
@tg_ny Жыл бұрын
Sonus Faber is a rather high end brand. I equate them to Ferrari. Their products have a combination of style, passion and engineering. Some of their products clearly perform better than others. Would I be OK with a Ferrari being manufactured in China like GM does with automobiles? No way. Do Ferraris contain some parts made in China? Yes. Do Sonus Faber speakers contain any parts made in China? Maybe, I am not sure. When you look at a GM car, it is difficult to tell which country it was assembled in unless you look at the MSRP window sticker. China is a huge manufacturer and has transitioned to advanced engineering of some products. However, unlike countries like the US, Japan, Germany and Italy, etc., their own brands of high end audio are not yet known or sold in the USA. I know they have tried. That is the next plateau in audio that they should try to achieve.
@Skye_the_toller
@Skye_the_toller Жыл бұрын
Your « ugly » about the weight… so fun!😂😂😂
@dandonna852
@dandonna852 Жыл бұрын
I would like have set but I didn't when had the money.
@utubecomment21
@utubecomment21 19 күн бұрын
Let's just take it as read, that Danny from GR Research is obviously gonna disagree with you, for the most part!
@Max-lo5ip
@Max-lo5ip Жыл бұрын
thanks for this video, really interesting greetings from Ukraine 🇺🇦
@robinr5787
@robinr5787 Жыл бұрын
Keep safe!
@Spierdalajyoutube
@Spierdalajyoutube Жыл бұрын
@@robinr5787 he is safe. Stop believing in TV. Only tiny bit of Ukraine is at war.
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