Bryan and Vinny Review WORST RAW OF 2011

[@bleedorange1998]

In hindsight 10 years later it's incredible to see how close WWE was to having a legitimate business-changing story in the Summer of Punk. All they had to do was make Punk's walk out last a few months, let him go around the country promoting himself as the real WWE Champion (much like he did at Comic Con then), constantly tease on social media what he would do with the title, and culminate it with the big money Title vs. Title rematch with Cena at Rumble (or if they were even more ambitious, Mania). Instead, he comes back after one measly little Raw off, Haitch and Nash tear the angle down to meaningless pieces, and further fueled Punk's exit from the business. Oh, they also followed that up with the abysmally awful locker room "walk out" that buried pretty much every babyface in the company dead. It went from "things are looking up!" to LOLWWE so fast. Ten years later and we're still feeling the aftershocks. Whew.

[@Doc92IDH]

Saddest thing is how this was all blindingly obvious at the time, too. Could genuinely have been the best angle they'd ever done.

[@shortyg1018]

That would've been dope if they would've built that title vs title match all the way till Wrestlemania.

[@OrochiFlamez]

And 10 years later Punk is in AEW living his best life and Triple H got his pet project stolen from him by his father in-law and has basically lost any and all power he once had in WWE. Punk lost the feud, but whoo boy did he win in the end.

[@ekmad]

Isn't that how Jim Cornette said he would have booked it? I know everyone likes to clown on Cornette saying he's out of touch and old fashioned but the guy has literal decades of experience. Seems to get it more than people think.

[@thomasrodriguez-b3n]

That was garbage the summer of punk sucks. It led to nothing. Fact 100% stupid pointless garbage. Jobbers everywhere. Fact. Deal with it because truth hurts. Get over it. You can't handle it either. So stop trying to fight against it. It's over. Wrestling doesn't exist anymore wrestling is dead today. Fact. A bunch of nobody's. AEW is nothing either. More Jobbers everywhere. It's trash. They suck. It's not booking anymore. It's because the wrestlers stinks. So. Horrible. Punk was always garbage too. Fact. He did nothing. Daniel Bryan was garbage. All he did was kick kick kick kick kick punch punch punch kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick kick. Fact. Terrible garbage. He didn't do anything. So stop it. All these jobbers sucked. Wrestling is over. Worthless garbage. Fact.

[@barbarayhivjaneahl3198]

I wasn't ready for how much this sounds like WWE in 2021. Just change a few of the names and this could be Raw for the past year.

[@samsonlovesyou]

My god, they're talking about Big Show vs Shaq in 2009!

[@jeffcarroll1990shock]

These two geeks. These two hypocritical Dave Meltzer worshiping geeks could not call a show with a toll-free number.

[@cld244]

Isn't ironic how Punk had chose not to walk out of all people.

[@FullMetalNull]

Was being pushed properly at the time. He was in his "for the fans" phase.

[@nick0875]

@@FullMetalNull He wasn't being pushed properly, they took the title off of him at Summer Slam due to a Kevin Nash run in and then pinned twice on pay per view. Everyone remembers the match at MiTBh in 2011 with Cena as the Summer of Punk but WWE didn't give him an unhindered push until Survivor Series.

[@chrisloco9]

yeah he starts complaining and then when it comes to it he just wanted the spotlight

[@toptenguy1]

4:05 "Why does time move so fast?" -Depressed as this video was from TEN YEARS AGO. :(

[@wereallscrewed9714]

15 years and counting 😢

[@RCPlanes59]

"Cody Rhodes is good at being Cody Rhodes! He doesn't have to be a movie villain!" Huh.

[@zerozeeros]

What don't you get

[@RCPlanes59]

@@zerozeeros The "huh" wasn't a question but rather a statement expressing irony that WWE would literally make Cody Rhodes a comic book villain, a character so bad that it caused him to quit and eventually be one of the creators of a new wrestling company where he wrestles as Cody Rhodes (and is very good at it).

[@WCWThunderRosa]

Imagine that

[@JaimeD.]

@@RCPlanes59 Yes. I love his current character. As "The American Nightmare", he's walking the thin line between a good and bad guy, especially when he does a middle entrance.

[@chrisbutler1668]

@@RCPlanes59 That is the entire history of "characters" in the WWE, excluding one decade (1998-2007).

[@Heavymetalthunda3]

The “horn gobbler” bit absolutely killed me holy shit

[@atimetraveler4910]

Wow dorn dobbler hahahaha

[@SAM-ru4vx]

10 years later and nothing changes

[@DamnMixes]

WWE was so fucking bad at that time, they had to bring back The Rock outta retirement, lol. Make no mistake, WWE is equally shit nowadays, but at least some of the wrestlers are quite technical to make a decent looking match...it's the fucking Mickey Mouse scripts they are reading that is so WOAT about this era.

[@meekrob]

I miss Vince calling Ziggler "Doelph."

[@supertramp9333]

30:24 i think he's talking about Fred 2: Night of the Living Fred

[@Vesperitis]

Wow, Bryan saying that Punk wanting to change wrestling has only made things worse aged like fiiiiiiiiiine wine in 2022.

[@MyChannel-ol1zz]

Listening to this compared to their reviews from 2020, they have the same sentiment. Wow, how things have gotten so impossibly worse. I didn’t even hate this raw in 2011.

[@johnt.campbell316]

i grew up during the Attitude Era and watched regularly up until around 2009. It got *unbearably* bad around that time. Now is pretty bad, but i still think I'd take now over then (2009-2015). And I liked what CM Punk was doing at that time. The actual in-ring stuff is better than it's ever been but no one seems to care.

[@MyChannel-ol1zz]

John T. Campbell I just can’t stand watching now. Even once the opening theme on raw starts, I’m already annoyed at how bad booking and the segments are going to be.

[@Vesperitis]

I actually was invested in this RAW's opening. It was at least an interesting and different situation with the walk out and there were only four guys left who hated but respected each other. I have never remembered what happened after Sheamus vs Cena.

[@thecedex]

I remember this episode and all I could think of was they killed CM Punk's momentum and made the whole angle about Triple H

[@MyChannel-ol1zz]

@@thecedex Looking back on it I can see that, though I found parts of it enjoyable. Think it also kinda depends what stage you are as a wrestling fan. Not sure I was as aware of certain things back then.

[@Radman1889]

They need to do this more often. Review today’s RAW and compare it to a RAW from years ago. Get Vinny back on these RAWs Bryan!

[@wallyrosario654]

Vinny might lose his sanity like he did reviewing impact for all those years if he watched any raw within the last 3 or 4 years

[@CameronAllOneWord]

Shaq and Big Show are still trying to have a match

[@downnice95]

In a different promotion no less lmao

[@CameronAllOneWord]

@@downnice95 That's just how epic the match is.

[@lossavageles]

10 years later and it's the same if not worse, really makes you think what wwe will be like in 2031

[@LINKMASTERX]

2027: well still be expressing the same sentiment.. scary tbh

[@feedbackerrr]

i wonder what the landscape will look like then . scary

[@OrochiFlamez]

Happy 10-year anniversary to this episode!

[@x23-y6m]

Nothing compares to how bad raw is these days 😆

[@solo13th]

Every Raw for the month of October that year sucked and the ppv that month sucked.

[@toptenguy1]

I liked the start because it was so different. My only complaint is that it didn't last long enough. They didn't even go through the entire match. They coiuld have easily gone 20-30 minutes, and then maybe have an angle where HHH scrambles to find something else to do. But mid-match, ALL IS GOOD AGAIN! lol

[@joeyclemenza7339]

this!!!! i agree.... it shoud've AT LEAST gone to like 45 minutes or the first hour.... they yanked the rug to quickly, then it just became a stale retread of the same thing.... i specifically remember changing the channel, thinking to myself "there's nothing I'm really all that stoked about......" ...and later ended up watching a rerun of True Blood instead...

[@joeyclemenza7339]

I actually remember being the only one who "kind of" liked this show... at the very least, it was different, it was "sort of" long term story telling (but not really), it was something I'd never seen before... but it just all fell apart immediately for all of the reasons you just said. vince coming back in to take charge after he'd been fired, the GM bullshit, Punk being chummy with Hunter (though I really wish they would've done an entire match)... just... yeah, there were a lot of opportunities... and it just fell apart to lazy writing.

[@dorisjohnson6104]

o bryan, bryan, bryan, wait till 2018 lol

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

I'm convinced we haven't yet reached the drizzling shits of dreadful WWE programing.

[@JUnior-ot1xu]

Say hello to December 2020 raw

[@Joshuawott69]

Wait til the end Elimination Chamber 2021, lol.

[@TeeAnDees]

How about 2020 Wrestlemania? I’ve seen better episodes of smackdown...

[@j.3o21]

Wait till June 2021 and Alexa Bliss hypnotising people.

[@JR-he6fn]

This still sounds better than anything from the past 5 years

[@johnmarcus317]

Really enjoy these full show reviews

[@Kenny-Blankenship]

11:04 THIS IS STILL TRUE

[@ericg_2025]

10 years ago, Cody was wearing bags...

[@Radman1889]

Now he’s wearing awful tats

[@MrDaruis]

Bryan in 2021: I am looking at the newsletter. They are so smarky. And their paragraphs take so long to read. All we see of old newsletters are their star ratings. It’s February 2001 and I am in awe. His name is Dave Meltzer. He is a journalist like me. I am 40 years old. We were introduced by a good friend of mine from the business, Paul Heyman. It is November 2019. Dave Meltzer is in a Twitter war with Seth Rollins. They say his sources were the cause. That night, Dave and I make the newsletter for the first time. A month from now the Monday Night wars are over. I cross the room to the TV. I find Granny. [TV Noises] When I get to the TV, Vince and Shane are on. I am terrified. It is January 2001, when I’m introduced to Dave. he buys me a newsletter subscription, the first time a mark has done this for me. As she passes me the Star ratings filled, NJPW loving newsletter, our fingers accidentally touch. I feel fear for the last time. A token funeral is held for WCW. There is a lot for Vince to bury. Dave frames the newsletter. It’s the only newsletter anyone remembers. An Invasion storyline is hinted . A few days later, a partially over Booker T can be seen on Raw to no Heat. They call us us dirt sheets. They explain the name has been chosen for the ominous associations it will raise in Wrestling fan's enemies. They are pissing me off to the point of me shaping myself into something gaudy, something lethal. In January 2013, Vince asks me to watch one more hour of Raw. something that his ass would've never asked. A week later, the show gets worse than it already was. R.D Reynolds, a wrestling journalist, helps me write a book. In it, we call WCW all types of names. I am not sure if I can ever watch it again. It is Christmas, 2015. Vinny tells me he is afraid, and worried. He says Raw is so un watchableable now. I tell him it is, but this is where our money comes from and it can't get any worse. As I lie to him, it is September 2018. I am in a room full of people ripping on Raw. A very old woman looks at me and smiles. She’s forgetful. After each long review, she pronounces names wrong- like a signature. Vinny accuses me of watching bad Raws and Smackdowns. He bursts into angry tears, asking if it’s because I think it's gonna get better. It’s true. I still believe it will. I prefer the stillness here. I am tired of WWE. This Vince. I’m tired of being caught in the tangle of their scripted angles. They claim their company is entertainment, yet their entertainment is populated with bad booking. Perhaps the WWE is not entertainment. Perhaps old wrestling is entertainment. A WWE without a 74-year-old man. It’s too late. Always has been, always will be, too late.

[@Josh-qu6jx]

Beautiful champ

[@BlackWind90]

Just a reminder that WWE has been shit for decades.

[@MetalThrashingMan13]

That intro

[@erick_solar]

Just imagine if Bryan could see the future back then lol

[@nicholaschristie8699]

When I was starting to watch WWE, I would always try to defend their decisions. But, looking back, it is just for the pleasure of one man and one man only, Vince; which is one of the reasons as to why I think he is brain dead when it ccomes to booking and common sense.

[@vampirascoffin870]

Facts!!!

[@ruffisgreat]

Bryan had a potty mouth back then

[@sangan3202]

wwe has been ass for a really long time huh

[@JonathanMartinez-vk5pk]

Yessir

[@Karnage420698238]

as bad as that one was (and i do have some fond memories of that raw mainly the opening segment) it was still at least watchable unlike anything form wwe in the past 3 or so years i cant tell you the last time i watched anything form wwe outside the royal rumble and wrestlemania on the network

[@th3seek3r60]

Poor jr

[@RoyalFusilier]

They skipped over it here, but "Vince, the man with the anti-bullying campaign, got off on national TV bullying a grandpa with Bell's Palsy" really deserves more attention. In the Dave and Bryan show on this episode, I think they got more into it. What absolute shit.

[@th3seek3r60]

@@RoyalFusilier yes,he was out spoken about it since he left wwe,on how it was just to rib him live on national tv without him knowing it before hand. Guy worked his butts off,helped to sign great talent,done whatever vince asked him to do and he was treated like this...

[@atimetraveler4910]

Wow Mayaar

[@2kjstewart]

Still waiting for AEW to put on a show this bad 🤣

[@Tzgrey77]

Meanwhile Cody Rhodes starts his own wrestling company

[@topnotch4564]

#CMWho

[@thomasrodriguez-b3n]

They did the same thing with Vince mcmahon in 1999 remember that? Hello wake up. So why are you shocked when they did it in 2011? Yes. It is punks fault. Wrestling never makes sense. So. I don't get you people sometimes. Acting shocked that they got Vince back? Come on. Stop it. They've been doing this for 2 decades. So it's pointless. Storyline in wrestling has been changed for a long time. July 1999. Hello wake up. Stop acting like you don't never saw anything like that before. Because it's stupid now. Everything is dead. Wrestling sucked because a bunch of jobbers everywhere now. Fact There's not much good anymore. Because nobody watches. Wrestling is dead today as a result. Stop lying to yourself when it comes to GayEW or. Stupid NXT garbage. It's lame.