BS The Legend of Zelda - 23 - another bow, in another dungeon one

I cannot imagine how wild this must have felt back in the day
I'm sure I got a bunch of stuff wrong and I'm just as sure the audience will be all over correcting anything and everything
/ raocow
talkhaus.raoco...

[@paradoxcompass]

I think they should bring back the "disembodied voice casts a lightning spell" in future games. Not necessarily future Zelda games, just future games in general.

[@anglebrackets3430]

Yeah! Just throw it in with no explanation, ideally in a game that previously had no voice lines. Like "hey, is this thing on? yeah? ok good, i got lightning coming your way in like 3 seconds" and then the screen gets cleared.

[@neobullseye1]

I am imagining the old man from the start of the game is just stalking Link- sorry, Bimmi all across Hyrule, commenting on everything he does, while the mute hero is desperately trying to get away from him.

[@HiroshiMizushima]

"It's dangerous to go alone, take this unseen narration!"

[@theangrycolossal]

this feels like if Zelda 1 had been a Master System or Genesis game that got an "enhanced" Sega CD port

[@renakunisaki]

So my understanding is, this was a data stream piggybacked on a satellite TV broadcast. You'd plug your Super Famicom into the dish with this device, and download a small game. Hence the loading screen which is crude streaming video while the game slowly downloads. The SFC had the ability for cartridges and expansion devices to add their own sound channels alongside the console's. So while the game runs, the TV broadcast is still sending music and narration mixed into the game sound. Of course that's a prerecorded stream that can't react to the game, so it's all stuff that doesn't relate to whatever you're doing. The data stream continues sending commands to the game like "pause for dialogue", " advance the timer", and "power up the sword". As with all satellite broadcasts though, you can't send anything back. For these games, they tried to make it sort of an interactive TV show, so the game stops at the end of the broadcast. There might have been other games that you could just keep saved? But they'd lack the enhanced audio and command stream. It's absolutely wild that this not only existed, but was preserved even without Nintendo's help, given the highly volatile nature of it all. I don't know if simply recording the broadcast with a VCR captured the data stream? The games did save to the BS-X memory, but I believe it was powered by an internal battery like most games then, so it's nearly impossible to find one that still saves, let alone still has those broadcasts saved.

[@SuperMoogyD]

Ah yes, the timeline where Link became a 90's kid complete with turned around baseball cap. My favorite!

[@anglebrackets3430]

Ah, the Satellaview. Truly one of the video-game-related concepts, objects, and/or events. Worldbuilding tip: put something like the Satellaview in your fictional setting to instantly make it seem weird and surreal.

[@Atzros]

URL even ends in "Bs", hah

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

Wow, talk about synchronicity! So perfect!

[@WhitehawkePAUNCH]

Nintendo: Insists on very little voiced dialogue in the Legend of Zelda, up until Breath of the Wild. Also Nintendo, in Japan, way back when the Super Famicom was a thing: Listen until the characters are done narrating! Bonus: Nintendo about The Legend of Zelda: Insists only the Green Elf can ever be the main playable character in the franchise. Also Nintendo when BS Zelda: Yeah, boy or girl, pick whoever you want.

[@alex_-yz9to]

Because you're not playing as the elves obviously, its the satellaview kids!

[@capefeather]

I like when the narrator said "IT'S ZELDA TIME" and zeldaed all over those guys

[@IttaBaby]

The link to the past BS game was a different one. It's pretty fun too, with new npcs and a focus on getting as much filthy rupees as you can

[@Saxdude26]

Hell yes! Third quest time? I had no idea a full narration translation had been done now, first discocered it pre-2010 at high school when the projects were in early stages. Already was a wildly different experience but the fact that additional change has been ported over now, is VERY impressive. And yes, because the soundtrack for each week was broadcast parallel with the narration, the music won't change per area - this is not the case in the other hacks which don't feature the narration. A full OST of BS Zelda no Densetsu was released around the same time in Japan that features the music as it plays per the broadcast schedule.

[@tepig2828]

This is probably one of the most obscure Zelda games. The only other game like this I can think of is that Japan exclusive point and click adventure game for the DS starring Tingle called “Ripened: Tingle’s Balloon Trip of Love” Hands down the most unhinged Zelda game.

[@StripeyShima]

I think this might be more obscure only because the Tingle sub-series at least had one game released in English (Rupeeland in Europe)

[@tepig2828]

@@StripeyShima yeah definitely.

[@timothybell9348]

10:06 and all I can think of when I hear this is "Human, monster, sea, sky. A scene on the lid of a sleeper's eye."

[@BrazillianCara]

This whole thing is honestly pretty bizarre.

[@Frisko555]

Plot Differences: In the NES timeline, Zelda hid the Triforce of Wisdom before Ganon kidnapped her. In this timeline, Ganon stole the Triforce of Wisdom and hid the pieces himself. In the NES timeline, Link learns the game's plot from Impa. In this timeline, the Hero(ine) learns it from the Old Man.

[@warpio]

I've played a partially restored romhack of this before, but it didn't have any of the FMV scenes or voiced audio, just the gameplay and time limit stuff. I thought it was pretty cool but wow I didn't think there was so much more to the actual experience of the original BS game I was still missing out on... Interesting how this is actually the first instance of a modern over-tutorialized Zelda game with the audio stuff restored. It's like having a Navi/Fi-like character with you except you don't get any prompts and they're just in your ear the whole time telling you what to do.

[@randomnpc445]

Conversely, though, unlike Navi and Fi you seem to be able to just ignore it and keep playing while the dude talks in most cases, instead of stopping you to mash through a textbox while they tell you something you already know.

[@rootbeer_666]

Spot on about the trivia bits while you’re waiting at the theater, then after the game has started, the intermittent voice overs sound like the “your call is very important” bits that pepper the hold music. I really need to get a decent microphone and put together a VO demo reel because dang that old man voice is _rough._

[@roundthewheelrtw]

featuring guest narrator Michael Dorn

[@unworthyBeatrix]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who couldn't unhear that

[@mmmmnism]

I dunno about Dorn. It sounds more like a pitchshift. Dorn's voice sounds more robust than that.

[@unworthyBeatrix]

@@mmmmnism I mean it's obviously not actually Michael Dorn, it's "We have Michael Dorn at home"

[@dogindagrass]

BS stands for Beterified

[@aparks1437]

Ancient artifact unearthed

[@FiyahKitteh]

This is kinda cool. It's like a GB Advance game, wow!

[@joew1237]

Well this certainly is a link to the past

[@HiroshiMizushima]

Wow, this is just *wild.* I'd known about the Link to the Past one and even tried playing it once many years ago, it was not an ideal experience but maybe that's changed in the last 10 years. I suppose when I saw ROMs that mentioned BS Legend of Zelda, I was just assuming they meant the other one and not this one. That's really neat, seeing what is essentially an unheard of official Zelda game. The other hand had some Japanese voice over, which is what I thought we were hearing here at first, but no, it's actual English! This is going to be a cool ride to see how it goes. It *looks* really good as a recreation of the original overworld but with SNES graphics.

[@Oshamoff]

Huh, didn't expect that one. One of the details that's really jumping to me is that Rupees seems to be way more plentiful in this.

[@tepig2828]

Makes sense, you had to finish each section before the broadcast ended IIRC

[@hyperweapon]

WHAT. I've never heard of this. I'm shocked this is a thing. Apparently KZbin has though. That's even more silly.

[@toshironikko]

Good ol' broadcast station Zelda

[@Taintain101]

wow, the graphics and sprites are amazing! and the concept is really cool hero elf with the backwards cap is

[@MacmanReturns]

I never played the version of this that's on a timetable. This is rad as heck.

[@realreaper3]

Okay, I wasn't expecting this. I for one have been enjoying the stealth All the Zelda's.(also finding it hilarious that 3 of the LPers I watch are all playing the NES zelda at the same time).

[@LazyMaybe]

Those skeleton sprites are VERY cute.

[@joew1237]

5:01 So that was the Sealing War ...

[@stealst]

What a weird, cool, fun idea. I never knew this existed!

[@LadyDeSelby]

"bimmi's a boy" noooooo my dreams and headcanons

[@unworthyBeatrix]

The only kind of boy bimmi is in my fanfictions is 'tom-'

[@mmmmnism]

🙄

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@mmmmnism there's that signature lack of whimsy

[@mmmmnism]

@@hi-i-am-atan And there's that grudge you keep manifesting in indirect ways. How quaint and whimsical! 🤣

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@mmmmnism i'm sure it must be very funny that someone doesn't have unconditional love for every person in existence in a world where sundown towns are still a thing and human rights are being stripped away in multiple major powers truly ridiculous that anyone might take issue with someone else, yeah?

[@rootbeer_666]

What’s so unfortunate about Bachelor of Science?! 😡

[@Tr0tim]

I love this tileset and the sprites so much. It's lovely! Not quite Awakening/Oracle level, but such an improvement over the NES original

[@Koushakur]

Tags: I can't believe, nintendo got so toxic

[@SomeGuy712x]

Ah, so you are indeed doing the Satellaview game now. Interesting. Death count: 1 [70] (1 today) (0:08) Oof, did this game footage touch Fuzzy and get dizzy? :P (1:14) Hey there, voiced dialogue. How's it going? (1:32) Whoa, was this recorded on a VHS tape or something? (2:56) This video footage is now part of All the EarthBounds. :P (4:35) Yeah, it doesn't stand for bake sale or backspace here. :P (5:24) Hey there, Princess Zelda. How's it going? (6:03) At last, we have finally reached the title screen. (6:52) Mighty Boomerang? What? (7:01) The Power Bracelet doesn't look like a 🥐anymore. (7:29) Good to know how to save at any time. (8:59) "Widiz-B-ad". (9:14) Here we go. And, I notice the map is 8x8 instead of 8x16. (10:13) Beep beep. Game's gotta remind you that every 60 seconds, a minute passes. (11:19) Careful, those blue Leevers deal one full heart of damage to you. (12:01) Oh, this shop is different from usual. Normally, it's the shop where you can buy a candle, or very a overpriced Magical Shield and key. But here, it's the bomb and arrow shop, with just a sorta overpriced Magical Shield. (12:48) There's the save menu. Interestingly, choosing continue resumes you exactly where you were, instead of resetting you to the starting point with 3 hearts. (13:12) Uh, oh. The music is changing to indicate something is about to happen. (13:15) HOLD IT!!! Interesting that the game froze during a screen transition for this. (13:55) What's this? Oh, neat. So, you get sword beams regardless of your health. (14:17) Nice, got the bomb drop from the blue Octorok. (14:26) Start of level 1. And, the music doesn't switch just from entering a dungeon. (14:58) The Keese here respawned already? (15:14) Okay, it is official. They're named Zoras here, not Zolas. (15:35) Obligatory attack on the old man in the dungeon. :P (15:42) The flashing red rupee is just worth 1. And then you have the usual blue rupee that's worth 5. Yeah, it does seem odd for the red color to be used on the 1-rupee. (15:59) Whoa, Ropes in level 1? (16:02) DOUBLE KILL!! That's something that the sword beam cannot do in the original NES Zelda, as it'll only strike one target at a time even if multiple things are overlapping. (Of course, you can always directly stab multiple enemies at once.) (16:18) Seems that the enemies get more mercy invincibility than usual in this game. Gotta be honest, I'm not a fan of that. (16:28) "S" (16:36) Aw, the Gels don't look like Hershey's Kisses anymore. (16:48) Really, those traps hit you there? They honestly shouldn't have. So, this game apparently made the hitboxes less forgiving. I call shenanigans on that. (17:16) Bow get! Please don't die to the unforgiving trap hitboxes on the way out... (17:22) Oh, the traps didn't get you there that time. How come they got you on the way in then? Are the hitboxes out of whack in just one direction or something? (17:29) Okay, now please don't carelessly get killed by a Goriya's boomerang... (17:32) ...You carelessly got killed by a Goriya's boomerang... First death of this game. (18:12) Here's another musical cue that something's gonna something. (18:17) Ah, the sword beam buff you got 5 minutes ago wore off. You can still throw your sword if you're at full health like normal, though. (18:52) Yeah, I can "feel" the stickiness too by just watching you play, and I'm not a fan of it either. (19:56) Right, you never did let a hand grab you in the NES game at all. (20:11) Alright, it's boss time, vs. Aquamentus! (20:16) The fireballs may be slow, but you still let them hit you like a fool, dood. (20:25) Victory! Aquamentus still has the same 6 HP. Probably could've quickly slain him with just two bombs. (21:15) I'm glad you moved to a screen that contains enemies just in time for that effect to happen. ULTRA KILL!!

[@EvilMariobot]

5:24 *it

[@SomeGuy712x]

@@EvilMariobot I don't know how I didn't spot that glaring mistake. Fixed. Thanks.

[@witchfynder_finder]

ZELDA! BS LEVELS!

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

Haha, that reference really takes me back! (For the curious, search for raocow's old Voxatron videos.)

[@AliceErishech]

It's quite difficult to make out what the narration is saying, though I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do about it. Lowering the volume of your voice would make the music overpower it and KZbin's autocaptions miss a lot of the narration.

[@squphaver]

the narrator reminds me of the narrator from kings field 3

[@mmmmnism]

5:11 Uh...kind of? According to the "official" timeline (I put that in quotes because god damn does Nintendo seem to struggle keeping a coherent narrative around this series), A Link To the Past (and its two sequels two decades later, A Link Between Worlds and Triforce Heroes) are actually _prequels_ to original Legend of Zelda. The overview is probably there because it's setting up the framework.

[@StripeyShima]

I don't think Nintendo "struggles" so much as they don't care - the "official" timeline seems like it was made mostly to get fans to stop pestering them about it.

[@mmmmnism]

@@StripeyShima If they "didn't care," then they wouldn't have wasted a significant amount of time making Hyrule Historia. Nintendo's not exactly known for putting in effort like that without a reason.

[@DoctorNovakaine]

Oh, so it's not Adventures of Bimmi, but Bimmi Supreme Legend of Zelda! I think if I were playing I would probably prefer the version that doesn't have the constant voice-over, that's...actually kinda off-putting to me here? Might just be because it's clearly for people who don't know how to play the game. But I'm not saying switch because I'm also kind of curious about what this version is going to be like as a viewer!

[@smergibblegibberish]

I came expecting a BS romhack. I'm surprised.

[@Resstarr]

Zelda 1 if it were Bastion.

[@RedMageSusie]

Getting a double dose of Kira Buckland today

[@diamonddom60]

Quick question, did we ever find out who/what/why bimmi is? If there was an explanation i think i missed it lol

[@Amia_the_Smol]

Man, I can't believe raocow is playing the biebersoft fangame Ode to Zel... wait, this isn't *that* BS Zelda?!

[@RobotBlueprint]

oh this seems like a hoot

[@Robbie06261995]

This Zelda game is so BS.

[@RobinLSL]

More Zelda 1!😮😮😮

[@aurafox1]

This Legend of Zelda's a bunch of BS.

[@Hypexion]

There is no end to the Z Side

[@amandajuan15]

cowrao, your let's play of this game keeps popping up on my music recommendations and I have no earthly idea as to why.

[@TheyCallMeSharkface]

_zelda time_

[@grass324]

the narrator wont shut up

[@KBraid]

wait did this game come out after Ocarina of Time?

[@BobisOnlyBob]

August 1995 - three years prior.

[@novidstkbg6636]

I was right! This is worse than nonsense, this is BS! BS zelda map 1! _Note: Non-canon_ Ahh the BS-X system, such an oddity in gaming. (and a nightmare to game preservation) Still surprised none of the bs-x games got a standalone rerelease :( The time is your greatest enemy here... I have a question, is it a romhack or a fangame on snes?

[@StripeyShima]

Neither, it's an actual game that was broadcast for the Satellaview, no?

[@randomnpc445]

If you're asking about how raocow is emulating it, it appears to just be a ROMhack of some kind, but my guess is that it's a ROMhack of the data on the actual Satellaview cartridge doing its best to restore the game data somehow? This is such an odd piece of technology that even after looking at a site to download the ROMs I'm not sure how it works.

[@IttaBaby]

Wasn't it *Bandai* Sateliteview?

[@Oshamoff]

Considering Bandai wasn't involved at all with Satellaview, that sounds very unlikely.

[@MrOmegatronic]

Basically the entire Internet called it the Bandai Satellaview for a long time, yeah. But funnily enough, Bandai actually had nothing to do with it! Everyone basically just Mandela effected themselves into believing it was Bandai.

[@IttaBaby]

@@MrOmegatronic damn