BSA Lightning XL SE GRT

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@PiperX1X Ай бұрын

Hello Vin fella, I has the lightning se springer but wasn’t impressed with it one bit, it just felt a clump of a rifle, and accuracy wasn’t good at all. But that’s what I thought any way, needless to say I sold it and it put me off from buying another bsa springer again, it’s Weihrauch’s all the way for me, except for my pro sport that is. Air guns have been proven lethal and it happened to my nephews friend back in 2002, a lad called Mathew Sheffield from Stockton on Tees who was shot in the head, he was fourteen years old, details can be found online and maybe more should actually read articles like this and understand that airguns can kill and not to take the attitude that’s it’s only an airgun, possibly more thought and understanding would be taken into consideration that they can be a deadly weapon. Possibly pin this for some to see? Great video Vin, have a good weekend my friend.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@PiperX1X Hi Johnathan thanks for comment my friend. There's no doubt whatsoever airguns can be lethal and should be treated with respect. #no1 rule NEVER point a gun of any description at another person. #no2 rule treat all guns as loaded. ... It really annoys me when here in the UK I hear of people suggesting they can be used as home defence weapons. Quite frankly those who advocate as such really need to have their heads tested. 👍👍👍👍

@chroniclesofahalfwit Ай бұрын

Great comment, far too many people underestimate the damage a humble air rifle can do, though I do think Westminsters ‘ban everything’ approach is pathetic. I was considering adding a lighting to my meagre collection, you’ve just confirmed my fears re BSA, another Weihrauch it is then 😁

@MrClivehill Ай бұрын

@@chroniclesofahalfwit I find that some kids are too complacent and don't realise, and some kids are northern and just thick as shit.

@jamielwy Ай бұрын

Wise words indeed..

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

Thanks kindly buddy 👍👍👍

@Airgunfunrich Ай бұрын

I like messing around at 80 + m but only on paper. When I did a hunting pellet expansion test I did at at 30m iirc as I feel that’s ethical for my abilities using a sub 12 rifle. Another great video Vin

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@Airgunfunrich thanks kindly my friend 👍👍👍

@mysterymeat73 Ай бұрын

it is wonderful to hear someone say out loud what i have been thinking for years ,cheers vin, x

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@mysterymeat73 thanks for the comment my friend 👍👍👍👍

@three-phase562 Ай бұрын

Nice piece of woodwork there Vin, will be interesting to see how it performs on the range. Unfortunately, we are seeing the laws slowly creep in, removing more and more. We used to punish those who break the law, but now we see more laws coming in to prevent the law being broken, we just affects the honest law abiding people. Have a good weekend all.

@madness6780 Ай бұрын

Hi vin another great video,i totally agree with you about our sport,plus it bugs me when people say air weapon when it is air rifle or air pistol.keep the good work up

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@madness6780 exactly my friend. Thanks for the comment 👍👍👍

@BazLisie Ай бұрын

That was a thoroughly justified whinge. Well done Vin. Whinge on! Regards, Baz.

@scottrobertson9452 Ай бұрын

Vin, I had the same rifle, but with spring. I liked it. The stock, metalwork, plenty of power, compactness, handled well. Quality throughout. The biggest negative was the trigger. All of the good qualities I mentioned above and the gritty, long trigger. Like I said, I liked it very much, but I couldn't get passed the trigger, ended up selling it. ScottUSA

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@scottrobertson9452 thanks Scott, the trigger seem smooth on this but is quite heavy on the second stage (so much so I thought I'd left the safety on)..I'll have a play with it and see if I can lighten it somewhat. 👍👍

@ianwoods1384 Ай бұрын

Hi Vin, Yes, I completely agree with your opinion on air rifles as weapons and your other opinions, too. Pardon the pun, but as air rifle users and enthusiasts, we have to be bulletproof on how we act and conduct ourselves if we are to continue what we love doing. We have to constantly think about what we are doing and be correct in what we do and be able to explain ourselves if need be, anytime. To me, personally, my air rifle is an item of beauty. It's something I've adored being around owning and using for a long time. My air rifle represents quality, precision, excellence, beauty, craftsmanship, superb engineering, etc. It isn't a threat or danger to anybody. In the wrong hands, it could be a weapon, but it isn't in the wrong hands and won't be. It has potential, of course, though only positive potential in my care. Unfortunately, for air rifle users, our laws with such items have to cover all bases. Yes, sometimes, I think I'd do better with more than 12ftlb. However, if I implemented more fieldcraft skills, maybe 12ftlb would be good. 12ftlb in the wrong hands is very dangerous. It's all well and good having FAC, but not considering what is behind what you're shooting at is easy to do, with lethal consequences. There are times in the summer, when I've been shooting I'd like to call at the supermarket, enroute coming home. That's a no-no. Having my kit in the car, even locked up, and wearing camo gear, I've learned is to be avoided. What people don't know won't do you any harm and won't lead to confrontation. So many people love confrontation these days. A good portion live on it. Those that, for whatever reason, have no intention of working have nothing to lose, so can't be hurt. They have nothing to lose. We do. I've found the best way is to be discreet. Many of the people who have opinions on what we do don't know the first thing about what we do. They should keep out of what we do. They won't be complaining come 1500 hours, on a Saturday afternoon when they're shouting and screaming, acting like caged animals, warranting a huge Police presence at massive public expense. Riot vans, Police dogs, horses, troops, etc, etc. No. That's just all fine and accepted as modern everyday life. We must really think about what we do and how we conduct ourselves going forward. We have to have rules and boundaries for people whose intentions aren't ours. There'll always be spoil sports, but as long as we are correct in what we are doing, that's what matters and what will allow us to go forward. Sorry to rabble, Ian.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@ianwoods1384 thanks Ian for the great comment. 👍👍👍👍👍

@rapalaron6348 Ай бұрын

Totally agree with you Vince. I'm very curious about the Lightning. To be honest, i don't expect to much but i hope this one shoot as well as it looks. The last BSA break barrel i've shot was not cheap and had a 100% Gamo made action with the BSA logo stampt in a great looking wooden stock. The rifle was hardly used, had the plastic Gamo breech and i could move the barrel in closed position from left to right and there was nothing to adjust. No bolt, just a pin with two C-clips. Cheers my friend!

@maximpestsolutions3696 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the Video Vins 👌. I agree with you 💯👍. Beautiful Air Rifle 👌. Cheers from 🇨🇦🙏🍻

@steve4697 Ай бұрын

Well said Vin..tenants of some social housing are no longer allowed to use uk legal air guns in the property they rent, these things start small, and it's not a big step for this to become law in all residential properties which would be devastating to people like me who are often house bound..anyway looking forward to the rest of the review..there's a gas ram sized hole in my collection 😅👍👍

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@steve4697 thanks Steve, many are judged by the actions of few. It's so saddening to see how things are nowadays. When I was a young ,'un it was common to see shooters with shotguns with the actions broken openly carrying them walking up the road on the way to the farms etc ... try that nowadays and you're likely to be stopped by the nearest Armed Response unit pointing very real firearms at you. 👍👍👍

@steve4697 Ай бұрын

@vincentenglish8489 very true I don't take standing shots in my garden because if someone looks at the right angle I can be seen from a footpath this could lead to a knock at the door for sure

@superzuki5831 Ай бұрын

Good subject matter Vin. I don't care for the term weapon either, it's a word that gets all the gun grabbers jumping and wanting to take them all away.

@JohnVentarino-ey5ln Ай бұрын

I totally agree with you Vince just like here in the U.S with everybody shooting slugs instead of pellets. These guns are meant for pellets that's why there called pellet guns but everybody is wanting to shoot slugs these days and shooting them at such high FPS and eventually someone is gonna use one of these high powers airguns and kill someone and then you watch and see they will make airguns the same way as it is to have a firearm with all the paper work.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@JohnVentarino-ey5ln yeah I hear you my friend. The actions of few reflect on the many. I find some of the stuff I watch on US channels to be somewhat disturbing... watched one lad shooting sparrows and mice and various other animals with tannerite tipped .25 pellets ... I mean what on earth possesses someone to shoot animals with exploding ammo...

@gecko278 Ай бұрын

Hi Vin, looking forward to see what you can do down the range with this modern build Lightning. Most of the time its slated all over the forums and should only be used as gate post prop. I have an "EU" built .177 SE spring version with the short silencer and personally really like it for its point ability. The trigger is a Gamo SRT/CRT type trigger. I improved mine by polishing the sears and added longer 8mm adjustment screw that i rounded and polished its contact point. If adding longer screw then make sure you drop test gun after making adjustments to trigger, can become hair trigger. I brought mine at really good price secondhand, the scope was worth more than gun. Build wise I've had to replace the piston seal as that turned into mangled blob of hard blue misformed plastic and the gun had only fired less than a tin of pellets, was only showing 5.5 ft/lbs. After rebuild now around 11.4 ft/lbs. Interested what you think about the firing cycle? they are a bit jumpy. It has it vices but I will always keep mine for its fun challenge factor. Oh and they love shaking the front stock screws loose too.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@gecko278 thanks for the comment and the great info my friend. Funny thing is I removed the stock earlier on this evening for a look-see and was surprised that the front stock screws were loose. 🤔😉👍👍

@tomsvennblad8374 Ай бұрын

Nice! Looks like my BSA Spitfire Multishot...

@earleysamantha Ай бұрын

Have one of these,reminds me of the old fenman😉

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

Aww buddy the Theoben Fenman, now that was a rifle. Dammit now that's another rifle for me to track down 👌👍👍👍👍👍

@grioghairmacgrioghair5311 13 күн бұрын

por workman etc etc springs to mind

@TheEarthistheLords 2 күн бұрын

I had one and it was awful so soon traded it in. However i am loving the new walnut version bsa lightning clx and at under £500

@nicholasrichards2402 Ай бұрын

Bsa mercury challenger best break barrel BSA ever made.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

That was a damn fine rifle...I had a stunning BSA Superstar, bitterly regret ever parting company with that. One day I'll find another...👍

@nicholasrichards2402 Ай бұрын

It's a shame that BSA don't make a underlever anymore to compete with air arms and weirauhch being the oldest air rifle manufacturer in great Britain and with great history during the second world war.

@MrNewtonian Ай бұрын

Are BSA produced in the UK?

@nicholasrichards2402 Ай бұрын

Yes BSA are manufactured in Birmingham and part's made for them in and around Birmingham.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@MrNewtonian I believe some models are and definitely some parts of ones that aren't wholly produced in the Uk

@paulharrison8155 Ай бұрын

I had the very same rifle in .22 The build quality rubbish. I had a mark appear on the barrel. On closer inspection I found the forend was warped and the barrel catching when the rifle was being cocked. BSA took the rifle back and ended up having to put a new stock and barrel on it. BSA never again . If you want something that will last pay a little more and get a 97KT or AA TX200

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@paulharrison8155 second video I do on the Lightning I'll have a good look-see around it. Might even do a comparison shoot and take the BSA Mercury S to the range with me. 👍👍👍👍

@redpillnibbler4423 Ай бұрын

I agree totally,the word ‘weapon’ is just incorrect even if it’s an official term used in law. Also people need to be aware the police are not on our side so be very careful. We need to be mindful and educate young/new shooters to be responsible and knowledgeable.👍

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@redpillnibbler4423 yeah buddy with you, sadly long gone are the days it seems of the local village Bobby joining in a rabbit shoot or pheasant drive. I think why I find tactical rifles not my cup of tea is they don't present a good image in today's society where anything sharp, pointy or scary is frowned upon.

@redpillnibbler4423 Ай бұрын

@ Thanks mate. I’m old enough to remember the village bobby,he knew everyone and was part of the community. I agree we need to be mindful of public perceptions,even though we shouldn’t have to.

@TheKillboxer Ай бұрын

Ooooo you braved the Lightning, be interesting to compare against my XL SE GRT experience, mines in .22 if it starts feeling off and low on power, check that breech seal and fore-end stock screws it took about 200 pellets for mine to start loosening up I'll be interested to hear how you get on with it.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@TheKillboxer thanks buddy. Only thing negative so far is the trigger is quite heavy .. no hex bolt to adjust, just a small Philips head screw behind the trigger that seems to do bugger all 🤔

@TheKillboxer Ай бұрын

@@vincentenglish8489 the trigger is atrocious for the type of gun, the screw behind the trigger is a tiny but all it adjusts is the let off and if you screw it all the way in on some its still far too heavy so people change the screw for a 8mm long one but i wouldnt bother as it just adjusts the release of the sear face, the trigger is actually an older Gamo SAT trigger but somehow its worse on the BSA

@MrClivehill Ай бұрын

The GRT stands for, get, rid, today.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@MrClivehill 🤣🤣🤣 there's going to be a second part to this, I want to get it on the range before I make any real judgement on it 😉

@edwardmiles3921 Ай бұрын

Well said

@tobypalmer2159 16 күн бұрын

Had a GRT, ended up selling as couldnt get the accuracy results. Did a number of things including changing the trigger mechanism from a SAT to a CAT but nothing helped. Ended up selling and getting a HW98, for which I am very impressed. Sorry BSA, do better.

@Bobcat1977 Ай бұрын

I like the look of the BSA GRT for myself. Would you recommend it?

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@Bobcat1977 hi buddy, the rifle is a bit of a curates egg. The trigger is not the best but the accuracy is acceptable if keeping shots within sensible airgun ranges. Personally I think there are better rifles out there for the same kind of money 👍👍👍👍

@felgate11 Ай бұрын

I had 2 workmates at different companies, both of which had lost an eye being shot as kids - Maybe they got Lucky ? that the pellet didn't penetrate further. One was looking through a knothole in a wood fence and actually "Dared" his mate to try and shoot him !! The other just said "Messing with Airguns as a Kid!.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@felgate11 thanks for the comment buddy. One of my school friends very nearly lost his eye being shot with a Gat air pistol, his vision is still buggered to this day. Even the lowest powered air gun is not a toy and should never be pointed at anyone. My grandfather gave me the best lesson ever about gun safety when I was about 7/8 years old, he shot an already dead rabbit with his 12bore from about 6 foot both barrels with the predictable results and said to me never fool about with guns because that can happened. Harsh lesson but one I've never forgot 👍👍👍👍

@colinrobins8824 16 күн бұрын

Have just watched your video and to say the scope rails are 11mm is completely WRONG, they are 13mm , I have both the Springer and the Gas ram version of the BSA LIGHTNING and they both have 13mm scope rails.

@vincentenglish8489 16 күн бұрын

@@colinrobins8824 thank kindly for the comment my friend, oops, I apologise for the inaccurate description. You are completely right in saying the Maxi Grip rail is indeed 13mm. 👍👍👍👍

@Lander76 Ай бұрын

I've had a lightning grt and hated it, the cheap plastic trigger unit flexes when you pull it, the gas ram is not exactly weihrauch quality and has a very snappy and agressive recoil and there is lateral slop in the barrel when it's locked up. All this added up to terrribly inaccurate gun.

@vincentenglish8489 Ай бұрын

@@Lander76 more to follow on this rifle. I've literally just had the stock off for a look-see. I'll get it on the range tomorrow weather permitting and see what it shoots like. 👍👍👍👍

@Lander76 Ай бұрын

Good stuff Vin. This gun is not a patch on my fully restored bsa mercury S which sadly got accidentally destroyed by a friend of mine who pulled the trigger with the barrel cocked which bent the barrel and split the stock😔 @@vincentenglish8489