BSE: Britain’s Deadly Disease Scandal

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[@staruchx]

crossout will be next raid shadow legends

[@to_crazy7478]

Man its 2020 dont say that there could be another wave... now you jinxed it D:

[@fntatn]

Wait why does it say this comment came out a month ago but the video isn't even a day old?

[@mjkg6026]

penguin slider573 that’s weird maybe the vid was private and was only relisted as public

[@626games]

Probably says it was posted a month ago because simon will often make his videos in advance and set them to be public at a certain date

[@thejoeholland]

During the mid 1990's I was stationed in Italy as a member of the US Navy. One weekend in 1996 I remember going to the commissary with some friends to get steaks only to find the whole meat section cleared out with a sign that said that British beef would no longer be sold and they were trying to find suppliers in Germany. Thinking nothing of it we went back to the ship and saw the news story about Mad Cow on Sky. We watched in horror as the cows shook and fell over, a friend said "if anything happens to my daughter..." Ten years later, back in the United States and a civilian, I went to donate blood only to be told I couldn't because I had been stationed in Europe during the mid-1990's. When I asked why I was told, "Mad Cow disease." That was fifteen years ago, and 25 years since I last ate British beef, but everyday I wonder if there is a time bomb in my brain.

[@gdavis2020]

Same here, is navy and can’t donate blood, due to being stationed in Europe and spending sometime in Scotland in the late 80’s and early 90’s

[@Mostie-ev7oh]

that's fucking eerie dude either way thank you for your service and I hope you stay safe.

[@hokutoulrik7345]

Same with my father. He was in Germany from 78-83 and they won't let him donate.

[@reyphorian]

born in germany in 1996, also can't donate blood, nor can the rest of my family. my dad was serving in the army at fulda at the time and my older brother was born there a year earlier too. my younger brothers were born in the US in 1999 but after checking things out on the red cross website i found out they can't donate blood either.

[@numeristatech]

Born in the uk in the 70’s. Moved to mainland Europe in the 90’s. Cannot give blood due to having lived in the uk in the 80’s and possibly being infected.

[@scoobiusmaximus9508]

The scariest aspect of this whole thing is that the Daily Mirror got something right

[@archlich4489]

"Broken by a tabloid..." O_O

[@chindit6784]

Daily mirror is the most sensible tabloid

[@jimtaylor294]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The Daily Mirror is little more than a labour party propoganda bullhorn.

[@chindit6784]

@@jimtaylor294 so you get some opposing reporting on our government as opposed to 90% of the broadcasting as tabloid media under tory control

[@jimtaylor294]

^ If only you were saying that sarcastically; it'd be brilliant XD. As it is; my pity is all you'll get. Oh; and the DM is one of the *least* sensible tabloid rags :P .

[@walterammons5344]

My grandmother passed away from the human variant CJD in 2008. They said it can lie dormant in the human brain for decades until a stroke or something triggers it. In a matter of weeks she went from her normal self to not knowing anyone in the family at all and then passing away. Her brother who had been dying from cancer for nearly a year and he held out another week "to give the family time to bury my sister before I go to see her again"....his words.

[@absolutelyridiculous6743]

That was a very sad read. 😔 I'm sorry for your losses

[@walterammons5344]

@@absolutelyridiculous6743 thanks. I've come to learn that if your part of a really large family that stay in touch with one another- death sadly is something that we can actually become too used to..

[@zachdavis712]

My grandmother is currently wasting away of it now. Symptoms started a year ago and shes just a shell of who she used to be. No clue who any of us are and walking around in circles with her mouth open all day. Terrible to watch

[@rickyfinn2763]

The fact he purposefully staved of Cancer to do something so close to his heart denotes a true warrior. I hope he rests well. 👑

[@walterammons5344]

@@zachdavis712 I feel for you and your family... I'll share a much more light-hearted moment that happened during my grandmother's decent- The illness had completely removed any desire she had to eat and we had tried just about anything and everything to help her get some calories in her... Then came Thanksgiving just before she passed.. My brother and I convinced her to smoke some weed with my other brother so she might get a bit of the munchies and actually eat. Our father was extremely suspicious (staunchly against any and all drugs unless prescribed by a licensed physician) of her giddy demeanor and sudden appetite..I think the 2nd plate and heaping serving of all the dessert options gave it away... He found out after she passed and thanked us because it was at least one more good memory of his Mom on the holidays. Cherish those memories guys n gals ..

[@poppetangel]

I always remember that idiot feeding his daughter a burger on the news. It stuck in my mind and resurfaces everytime someone suggests that the government has our best interests at heart.

[@tomlxyz]

Where do people think the government has our best interests in mind?

[@kirito3082]

@@tomlxyz on covid

[@agentepolaris4914]

I hope nothing bad happened to that girl

[@saragrant9749]

Anyone who says that doesn’t understand the real reality of any government.

[@TowerArcanaCrow]

Any governments real interests are not their citizens, it's their hold on power. Usually that's money and fear inflicted on the population in their favor.

[@fowyingahviyiff1878]

My grandfather died of mad cow disease, it wasn’t diagnosed until his brain was being studied (he donated his body to science) never got to meet him but from stories he seems like he was a great guy ❤

[@LMB222]

He died of vCJD (mad cow disease), or "normal" CJD? The latter is pretty rare, but I unfortunately know a lady who got it. She turned into a vegetable within three months.

[@fowyingahviyiff1878]

@@LMB222 I think it was the rarer kind

[@harrasa]

My uncle worked for scottish beef during "mad cow". said he spent his time going from farm to farm telling farmers to kill cow. Described himself as the saddam hussain of cows

[@Leon-oc4em]

Lmfao.

[@thisisthestuffgaming8202]

saddam hussain of cows, i love that lmao

[@HeyMJ.]

@Ian Harrison Not an easy message to herald. Glad he had pragmatic humor to keep stress at bay.. ‘saddam hussain of cows’ RFL 😂

[@thefrecklepuny]

So more of a Saddam Moossain then? I'll get me coat!

[@marianchicago4002]

There are worse tyrant and dictator he could have been called

[@daniellemcvay8058]

As a microbiologist CJD and prion diseases are one of the things that terrify me most.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

Hard agree, I'm a cell and molecular biologist and prion diseases are one of the very diseases where, if I ever caught and found out about? I'd definitely end my life then and there.

[@mfanwelikeit3760]

Same

[@SerAkimbo]

@@ThePhantomSafetyPin I remenber when I first heard about Fatal Familial Insomnia. There really are some horrific diseases out there

[@christopherharvie8716]

My Mum died from it. It is horrific. I can only imagine what she was experiencing.

[@hmac163]

@@christopherharvie8716 Im so sorry.

[@dp6447]

“Politicians acting like they know more than scientists” So true even today.

[@ewestner]

Yup. My thoughts exactly. Also, why are they worried about the economy when there's a health crisis? I mean, I know why (greed), but why weren't they smart enough to realize that when this thing got out it would cause an even bigger economic issue??? No one in government has ever heard of the phrase "a stitch in time saves nine" I guess.

[@co94]

Yep, and that’s also a function of the gullibility of voters. People are too willing to believe what politicians tell them. Government is sprawling and inserts itself everywhere. So many issues are now politicized. It’s awful.

[@disbeafakename167]

@@ewestner yeah, who needs to pay for housing and food... you don't do a whole lot of thinking huh?

[@ewestner]

@@disbeafakename167 what in god's name are you talking about?

[@IkedaSerra]

@@disbeafakename167 Here's why one should put more focus on health rather than the economy. You can make more money when you're not sick or recovering from a sickness. You can also make more money when you're not dead

[@ShellShock11C]

Maybe the real plague was the politicians we made along the way.

[@killman369547]

Politicians have been a blight on humanity since the dawn of civilization.

[@SentientDMT]

This is the most underrated on the internet. Currently suffering through a nasty outbreak Biden-Harris syndrome. ☠️

[@affirmingtoe15]

I would love a Chernobyl style series about the BSE scandal

[@connorbosley4431]

Maybe in the 2070's

[@giovannicervantes2053]

Hell yes

[@Alexm0321]

Yeah probably a good idea to wait since the whole second wave of BSE which would probably just start a panic

[@orlandofurioso7329]

@@Alexm0321 to be sure we need no deaths of vcjd until 2030

[@killman369547]

That's a pretty good idea.

[@jessicaybarra535]

I remember growing up when this all was happening. Kids today are told that they can't go to McDonald's because there's food at home. As a kid, we were told we couldn't go to McDonald's because we could get mad cow disease. 😔

[@boardcertifiable]

You shouldn't feed kids McDonald's at all, it's gross. 🤢 there are better hamburger joints out there you know.

[@teelesynclair5902]

I remember that, my mum only let me get chicken nuggets for ages 😂

[@kyidyl]

A couple other facts about prions illnesses (TSEs): you can randomly develop them. The tribe he’s talking about in New Ginea (the Fore.) got it because they practiced cannibalism and someone in their tribe randomly developed it. There is only a single non domesticated species known to have developed and maintained the illness in the wild: deer. All other recorded cases are due to human intervention or in domesticated species (ie, scrapie and bse.). M129v is a mutation that provides partial protection from the illness, but not complete protection, but it is fairly common especially in European populations. G127v provides complete protection, but is basically only found in the Fore. M129v is also not found in those of East Asian and pacific decent, but they have their own mutation that also provides protection but via a different mechanism. You also can have a prion illness for YEARS and, in fact, the reason it spread amongst the Fore is that you can have it for a very long time without manifesting any symptoms. Especially if you have the m129v mutation. But once you start showing symptoms, you’ll generally be dead in 6 months. Dementia and the related family of illnesses are also thought to be prion illnesses. And, bc a couple people were saying this down in the comments: simon is correct, healthy brains do have prions. The PRNP gene produces the PrP in all healthy mammals. PrP literally stands for PRion Protein. The misfolded and healthy versions, confusingly, have the same name (no like SO confusingly. The terminology for TSEs confused the hell out of me when I first started doing my masters thesis on the subject.).

[@___Zack___]

Such a beautiful brain you have, so nice to read a post by someone with a genuine interest in the topic ☺️

[@kyidyl]

@@___Zack___ Thank you. :) That was a very kind thing to say.

[@CAPNBEANS]

Im confused. It is not caused by a pathogen?

[@___Zack___]

@@CAPNBEANS Yes - a type of infectious protein called a "prion". :)

[@kyidyl]

@@CAPNBEANS Nope! It's cause by a misfolding of a naturally occurring protein in your body. Almost all animals naturally produce prion protiens. They're an integral part of normal biological function. However, they can be triggered to build themselves wrong (misfolding), and that's when they start to cause issues. This can be triggered by illness and injury, but sometimes it happens randomly. Once it does happen, the misfolded versions of the prion proteins can be really easily transmitted from one person (or sometimes between species, like mad cow.) To another, and then your body starts making the deformed version of the prion alongside the healthy version. Some prion diseases actually cant jump species (like chronic wasting disease.), but many of them can. And unfortunately for everyone ever attempting to understand the thing, both the healthy and misfolded versions of the proteins are called prions.

[@ProffesionalZombie12]

"A second pandemic is likely just around the corner..." 2020: Hold my beef.

[@ariefraiser140]

Impossible burger here I come.

[@Tommy2shoe811]

Mmmmmmm beef 🤤 roast beef 🤤 a big ol THICK slice of beef cake 🤤 LAWWD HAVE MERCY 🥵

[@youxkio]

Rather like.. "Hold your cough"

[@ariefraiser140]

@@bsblegend17 Oh I agree. I had it quite a few times. It's a little dry but it wasn't horrible and it definitely didn't leave me feeling like I was eating a veggie burger like some horrible experiences I had in the past. My only point throughout this is that taste will not be the only factor in taking these types of burgers from a niche market of customers who generally have more disposable income then the average. Cost will also be a significant driver and untill the cost to manufacture it goes down it will likely remain a niche market. It was the same thing with Tesla. When that car first came out only the rich could really afford it and once they started offering a model right under $40,000 you see a lot more Teslas on the road because Upper Middle class households can now afford them.

[@paulthrutner9114]

😆😆

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:40 - Chapter 1 - A tale of two sheeps 5:10 - Chapter 2 - A very unmerry christmas 8:15 - Mid roll ads 9:45 - Chapter 3 - Anatomy of a scandal 13:15 - Chapter 4 - Crisis time 16:25 - Chapter 5 - Years of madness 19:05 - Chapter 6 - 2nd wave

[@charlesjmouse]

Ah, vCJD. Some years ago a young chap was admitted to one of the nursing homes I visited as a local GP - the tragedy that nobody considers is the sufferers don't just die horribly, or indeed their families have to watch it. It's that being a prion disease it affects all tissues, can't be treated and can't be sterilised either! The result is the sufferer gets to be left to fester: Nursing staff understandably concerned over too much contact, blood or other tests can't be done for fear of spread via labs... I spent a lot of time just listening; to him, his family, his nurses - nothing else I could do. Bad enough for the few people who were infected and those who had to deal with it - imagine if 100's of thousands, maybe even millions had been infected! To this day I have no idea how we got off so lightly... assuming we did.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Considering the decreasing deaths in the 2000s i think, while not clear, we are getting there. However no one knows if those douchebags are still defying nature's eating rules

[@darrenjones6765]

What’s a GP?

[@flyon9694]

@@darrenjones6765 general practitioner

[@alexstorr3357]

Don't practice cannibalism or feed meat to herbivores. Yeh, we needed to relearn the obvious. Growing up in Lincolnshire a heavily agricultural area, I remember seeing piles of corpses - a fairly grim sight.

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

You probably mean animal corpses.

[@alexstorr3357]

@@MetalheadAndNerd no, I meant all the bankrupt farmers who had formed a big suicide pile

[@Delicious_J]

I'm a big fan of meat, but it must've been a horror show on cattlefarms back then, utterly inhumane.

[@alexstorr3357]

@@Delicious_J People were seriously worried at the time, I remember it well. To be fair, although meat is delicious, the industry has a lot of bad points. Bring on lab-grown!

[@--enyo--]

In Papua New Guinea they had Kuru or ‘ghost disease’ due to the funeral practice of eating relatives.

[@Tywithay]

This video is particularly devastating as one of my friends passed away from this exact disease last year. Ironically, he would have been 62 yesterday.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I'm so very sorry. I can't imagine the pain, and I won't pretend I know. vCJD is a horrific illness, and one that has taken too many people too soon.

[@auldfouter8661]

Are you sure it was vCJD and not CJD? There are no reports of a vCJD death in the UK since 2016.

[@SCP-173peanut]

​@@ThePhantomSafetyPin'fortunaly', It Is extremely rare with a 1:1000000 chance of getting it.

[@worldwideclips2664]

My nan died of CJD in 2013, she fell sick in mid 2011 and lay in a bed for the rest of her life from 2011-2013. She couldn’t move just sometimes make a noise. It’s was hard to see

[@mpstab6276]

Thats awful, it must have been horrific for your family.

[@worldwideclips2664]

mps tab it’s was, I didn’t really understand it that much at the time I was only 11, I’m now 18 and when I think about it was horrible.

[@andrew30m]

Sympathies to you.

[@jessegaspard]

That is so absolutely horrible to have to witness. I’m so sorry for your loss. 😞

[@worldwideclips2664]

Jesse Gaspard 🤝👍🏼

[@kimberleyjanemcnab5343]

At the time I had a client who’s husband was a cattle farmer. He had refused to feed his cattle the feed containing animal protein as “it didn’t seem right to feed a herbivore animal byproducts.” He was, of course, correct. This didn’t stop him loosing millions due to the greed of the government, feed manufacturers and other, less scrupulous farmers who only thought about the money to be made!

[@LMB222]

He wasn't right. It wasn't the animal protein itself that killed people, it was a specific situation on the island called Britain, where the natural sea borders and overpopulation caused this situation. Please note that outside Great Britain, the only place with recurring CJD "infections" was the island where they ceremonially ate their predecessors, which caused the kuru.

[@JordanPapaCorral]

It’s possible it wasn’t the feed but an insecticide used to kill off flies.

[@Ross6041]

I remember the BSE scandal well, right up to the age of 18. During BSE, ostrich steaks from Australia were offered in restaurants as an alternative to beef. I also remember someone telling me they could see the results of cows being burned on their local farm. The air was full of the ashes of burned up cows. A very dark time.

[@SkavenUK]

Expat here. This is the reason I discovered when I first moved to the USA 10 years ago why I can't donate blood, because I grew up in the UK between the 80's and 90's.

[@MMD74070]

I cant donate blood, as im one of the possible people whom recieved the infected blood transfusions

[@ginaf1683]

I was stationed in Germany and am under the same restriction. Apparently the US Army purchased meat from England.

[@patpierce4854]

I'm a regular blood donor myself (almost 10 gallons worth to date), but my husband is on that deferred donors list. His mom remarried and moved to the U.K., and the cumulative time he spent in England during the 80's to 90's is more than the Red Cross will allow for him to donate. In addition, seeing how this disease got transmitted to family pets via rendering the normally unused cow parts into pet food, it makes me cringe....wondering if the beef meal so commonly used for pet foods, still might be contaminated with BSE prions.

[@medusagorgo5146]

Gina Fogle same here

[@cggc9510]

@@ginaf1683 The Air Force didn't in the UK didn't. It was shipped from the US at the time. But, yep. Right there with you and I am vego.

[@markwheeler8296]

Well, having lived in England from 1977-1994, this video is absolutely terrifying.

[@fft2020]

More people will have died of sheer stupidity and Darwinism by the time you have switched to the next chrome tab than in the all BSE "crisis". This is an absolute NO topic

[@Aviationlord7742]

Mark Wheeler did people panic as much as they have now in 2020 with COVID?

[@jsnsk101]

@@Aviationlord7742 no, no one really worried. It was too late, youd already ate it. But they never told you to stop going to mcdonalds and eating crappy dairy cows and that steak was ok.

[@louise1596]

I was born in 1992, I have lived in England my entire life and I had no idea this ever happened. Obviously, I was aware of the disease but I never knew that this pandemic had existed in the UK. Absolutely terrifying.

[@deecoyjaj6847]

@@louise1596 your lack of knowledge about this is purely shocking

[@S1llycitty]

I had always wondered why the blood banks in the US ask potential donors if they spent any time in Britain in the 1990's... How awful. Thanks, Simon & Co., for your ever-informative work.

[@patpierce4854]

RevaMarine Zimmerman Interesting - at every Red Cross location, besides just asking if you'd spent time in Britain, the paperwork always mentioned CJD and if you had relatives who had been affected. They don't go into Simon- type details, though. I plan to re-watch this again to make sure I understand it well enough to explain it to someone else.

[@User18277]

Where i donate blood in germany they ask if youve been to britain between 1980-1996. If you have you cant donate

[@amandajones661]

Yep. This is why. I lived there during the 80s and I couldn't donate blood until this year.

[@agateplanet]

It's only now U.K citizens can donate plasma. We were buying it for decades from the U.S. Nobody talks about those huge, hidden costs. Makes you wonder if our stocks of American plasma were always sufficient ? This needs looking into !

[@LETMino85]

They ask that everywhere outside the UK. This blood will not be used.

[@TheQuickSilver101]

I'd thought I knew the entire story pertaining to BSE/mad cow disease before I watched this video. Now I know that there is likely a wave of human suffering and deaths still to be experienced, maybe even decades away. Damn you John Gummer and everyone who decided to hide the truth when they learned it. Thank you for this video.

[@FORGOTTENMINDFREAK23]

Hear hear. They should have faced criminal prosecution.

[@taodreamart]

Thank you Simon, research and production team. My uncle was one of the few who will never truly be remembered or ever be apologised for by the British government, passing away in August 96. It devistated us all as a family and we all became vegetarians. My children have never eaten beef at all even though as adults they choose to eat meat. It took our glorious government a lords review in law to acknowledge what could be seen at post mortem that men and women had died of vCJD and allow it to be placed on death certificates in 98. Drs could and did inform families, inquests could do the same yet it couldn't be written on a certificate of death? The injustice of loosing a loved one to this terrible disease wasn't enough that families had to campaign to have it on legal forms and then fight again to have those actual changes made. Government assurances will never be enough for us again.

[@ianharvey4406]

I remember going through the countryside in around 1994 and seeing piles of burning cattle. It haunts me to this day.

[@bimblenw]

And the whole countryside smelled like BBQ sauce.

[@auldfouter8661]

No you didn't - that was Foot and Mouth disease which didn't happen until 2001. BSE was a reportable disease and once a vet had seen the animal it was taken off farm for slaughter and incineration. Even badly affected herds would only lose a handful ( 1 to 10) of animals across a number years.

[@Snikerpiker1]

@@auldfouter8661 erm no... I'm a veterinary student. If a single cow is diagnosed with BSE the entire herd (I think that's how you call it in english) is slaughtered and has to be burnt. In addition several parts of the corpses of undiagnosed animals are forbidden from being used: gutts, spinal cord, the entier head minus the tongue, and two other body parts, vranica and priželjc, whose english names I sadly do not know.

[@thomaskelliher]

My best friend's mom told me when I was younger that she wasn't able to donate blood because she lived in the UK in the early 1990s. She told me that it was because of "Mad Cow Disease", she also wouldn't let my friend or her younger sibling donate to school blood drives. I never grasped how serious of a scandal and threat it was until now...

[@jasonoutman420]

My dad was stationed there in the early 80's, and because of this my brother and I are unable to donate.

[@kendrickoyola4290]

Simon said the intro with a little extra vemon. I know this video is going to good (best wishes goes out to the families that suffered).

[@Angela-rf2yh]

100. I agree with this statement.

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

We had a person here, in the states, they think could have been GENETIC. Last I read, they were watching his offspring and testing his intimate partner for fear it could possibly be transferred by close contact or intimacy. How’s that for something to hang over a person’s daily life? Horrific, right? I’m going to go see if their are further developments, now. I had forgotten about it.

[@kendrickoyola4290]

@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 i need to locate an update of whistleblower scientists who tried to inform the public. Poor person life was destroyed to protect corruption

[@greenkoopa]

I see what you did there... it was quite onimous

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

Kendrick Oyola the people who ran the coverup should be prosecuted for every death. We (the citizens of our respective countries) have to get control of our justice systems. We ARENT being protected by the MOST CORRUPT, because they have all the money and power. They BUY the people who are supposed to be representing our interests.

[@maxwild1212]

During my childhood (in the UK, in the 90s), my parents wouldn't let us eat beef, or even sweets that contained gelatin, which I'm pretty glad about in retrospect.

[@bazooka93]

This really sounds more like a plot of a dystopian film rather than something that actually happened. But I remember it.

[@johndawkes7339]

I was in Devon at college at the time this hit, I can still remember the night time open pyres burning it was horrendous then as it is now, Simon you did this subject real justice. Something I want to forget, but still can't and it's still ticking away, its a devastating disease and one that I hope never resurfaces, in either animal or human populations.

[@auldfouter8661]

That was FMD not BSE. BSE animals could not be disposed of on farm , and the disease only occurred in one or two animals at a time. FMD was controlled by a whole herd slaughter policy.

[@Snikerpiker1]

@@auldfouter8661 bruh once again no. About 200k cows were deffinetly infected and about 5 million were slaughtered and burnt

[@watermelonineasterhay]

I remember the pyres of foot and mouth infected animals, it was hideous. I was far too young to know about BSE thankfully.

[@theULTIMATElife50]

FYI around the world is an outbreak of Chronic Wasting Disease, a similar disease to Mad Cow, but for deer, elk, and moose.

[@thefedsarewatching4815]

U will niver here that on MSM thanks for the information

[@theq4602]

Fortunatly I dont know of any meat processing place or practices in the rural area I live in that would even consider messing with brain meat, they want to mount the head of the deer and get venison, not raising them for livestock and refeeding thier leftovers to wild animals.

[@HaightTheGreat]

Beard is looking HEALTHY.

[@7-ten]

It's all that cocaine and blood of the innocent. Allegedly^^^

[@quasarsavage]

@@7-ten da

[@towermoss]

It's being fed the clippings of other beards.

[@phyllisdevries5734]

Everything about Simon looks healthy to me.

[@uzaiyaro]

@@7-ten alegendly.

[@RUFU58]

There is a landfill near to where I live in the UK and a lot of the cows were buried there. I can remember my parents would always tell us NEVER to swim in the reservoir, which is located right next to the landfill - there were run-off pipes that drained the landfill into the reservoir and there were always dead birds and fish all around them. When you filled a bottle up with the water from the reservoir there were millions of tiny little worm things in there. Pretty grim!

[@dylankennedy6389]

Those worms are fly larvae, common is most stagnant bodies of water. However, your parents are right, do not swim in that water!

[@dr.altoclef9255]

Honestly the worms are probably the healthiest thing in that water. Many fly species have larvae that can happily live in absolute garbage low oxygen environments and as gross as they look they’re useful in cleaning those garbage environments.

[@dominichowell961]

This and other prion diseases are so scary. Especially its persistence in the environment, not just in animal products but potentially bound to plant matter where infected herds existed... I can hardly eat anymore out of fear. One meal a day is difficult

[@Screwball70]

Prions are almost indestructible,and I do think that VCJD are linked, because it is a massive coincidence that the British government back in the 90's said it can take 20 yrs for VCJD symptoms to show themselves and then boom, a huge increase in senile dementia and pre senile dementia in the UK, some say it's just that doctors are better at diagnosing dementia now and the population in UK of senior citizens has increased and there is no link to the BSE outbreak in cattle..and I to worry about eating, not just beef but anything, rogue prions from thousands of cows that were burned on open cremation in British fields, the ash landing in streams and lakes, even cows buried in mass graves, there was knackers yard in Wrexham that was cremating cows day and night for years, there were cues of trucks for over a mile packed with dead cows and live cows going for cremation the road was continually greasy from bodily fluids leaking from the animals, all them prions oozing into the water table and onto fields used for growing crops or full of cows eating the grass!

[@jacktingey7886]

I just got a “Beef: It’s What’s For Dinner” ad for this video. Bad timing.

[@ironwoodnf]

That commercial makes me uneasy 😂

[@AnimeShinigami13]

you should have tweeted that ad to youtube and told them "um... this was disturbing".

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

Heh...I never get ads on YT---I use some lovely Firefox add-ons to keep them out of my face.

[@akbaer60]

Geez, this is disgusting.

[@BatchelderPatrick]

John Gummer went on to lead a very upper class life and apparently without any recriminations for being a central figure in killing victims of BSE. Why does Britain turn the other way? Why wasn't he prosecuted? This is the kind of thing Americans are appalled at with Britain's upper class: they are never held accountable. Gummer is 80 now. Why isn't he harassed with tomatoes thrown at him when he attends all those black-tie dinners? Britain's believe Americans are so chavvy when it's just the pot calling the kettle black.

[@mjkg6026]

Patrick Batchelder as someone who lives in the UK, it’s sorta true that if you are upper class you can escape any punishment whatsoever. But, that’s also the same in America, in Europe and Asia and literally everywhere else. Money = power.

[@DerptyDerptyDUM]

Hey.... it took him a long time to grow that beard. 😁

[@lamppost7218]

Patrick Batchelder Margret Thatcher’s Government. Let’s ruin many people’s lives

[@SkuLLetjaH]

@@BatchelderPatrick Its like that anywhere. The rich and powerful never suffer consequences. The only ones that do are just offered up as a scapegoat by the other rich and powerful.

[@lauratorres7335]

I was filling out supplemental insurance paperwork a few years ago at my job. The rep went through what was covered under and mad cow was on the list. When I mentioned the lifetime ban on blood donations due to the possibility of being a carrier as I lived in England during the 90’s outbreak, the rep laughed and said I was the first person he had ever met that one could apply to.

[@onyxstewart9587]

Even though I was quite young at the time I remember how scary the BSE scare was. My parents banned me from eating beef and 30 years on I still don't feel comfortable eating it

[@ellib.7770]

Just don't eat meat. With all the antibiotics, gensoy and other bad stuff in the food for animals it is harming us more than healing us. Also it is not necessary to eat meat to be healthy.

[@seatbelttruck]

My great-grandpa died from Creutzfeldt-Jakob, though well before the 90's and most likely spontaneous. My mom described how quickly he declined, and it sounds absolutely terrifying. The thought that the bovine variant could still be lurking in some people's brains is simultaneously fascinating and chilling. I definitely ate beef during that time period (though I was in America). I thought I was in the clear now. So much for that.

[@michaelhowell2326]

A friend of mine in the Army was born in Germany in 1986 while his dad was stationed there and he was forbidden to give blood. He only lived there for less than a month but still he was barred and had to have tests done to make sure he was clean.

[@TheTomBevis]

I was in the USAF, during the early 80's, and I'm forbidden from giving blood. I was stationed in Spain.

[@charlesphilips2045]

I've never been more terrified of eating beef until now.

[@akoilady9097]

I didn't eat beef for a decade after this. I still eat very little. Slowly moving to full plant based diet. I'm fortunate to be able to.

[@sondrejohansen48]

I am becoming vegan😂

[@Glamosapien]

Might already be too late xD

[@marbl3d45]

@@akoilady9097 it's not proper diet ffs

[@valerierodger7700]

So you're too young to remember this, huh? I was living in Alberta - the heart of the Canadian beef industry - and had spent a month visiting my brothers in Scotland during the height of this. Both were areas with grass-fed cattle, and that were furious at the industry which allowed this to happen. Never stopped eating beef, but I do remember that restaurants in Scotland couldn't serve beef on the bone. Because of the damage that was done to the industry, and the severe financial hit that resulted, there were a number of changes made, and very strict regulation and monitoring of the industry to make sure that beef is safe. All the things that I could think of to worry about in 2020, BSE doesn't even make the list.

[@free_spirit1]

This is like a Plainly Difficult episode without the radiation.

[@tommo258]

I'd say this is a 9/10 on the disaster scale

[@sarahamira5732]

Yup, I kinda hope PD covers it eventually as well, would be interested to see his take on it

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

Britain during this time: "Reject science, beef is good."

[@masternilla6652]

Watch your friends and family suffer Happyyyyyyyyyyy

[@LMB222]

What science? There was no prior research on prions, and scrapies didn't jump to humans for 250 years. They - the Brits - were walking a thin line by feeding cattle dead sheep, but prior knowledge was supportive of this.

[@Ramash440]

I watched this while eating beef. A special kind of thrill akin to watching air crash investigations while in a plane.

[@Mostie-ev7oh]

Damn that is ballsy

[@HarmonyEdge]

Reminds me of the time I rode a bus that had an in-ride movie exactly a year after we had a spate of terrorist bus bombings. The featured movie? Speed. 😅😅😅

[@russellfitzpatrick503]

Brilliant. To the point and without the hysteria so often apparent in mainstream media. Keep up the good work.

[@TheSlizzer348]

Go back to your care home grandpa

[@neilherries8751]

Since you’ve done this. Could you do the Foot and Mouth Outbreak in the UK and how it was spread like COVID?

[@robbiecotton6827]

It’s a good thing the conservative government learnt their lesson from this and will be able to combat the next major health crisis much more effectively ... oh

[@annabeinglazy5580]

Same I was watching this and thinking... are you sure youre not talking about 2020? The UK government actions feel... familiar...

[@vmitchinson]

The current usa feds have not learned a dammed thing, hence more covid infections and deaths then any other country in the world. Way to tRump!

[@johnglennmercury7]

@@vmitchinson how many falsehoods in one statement? hard to know where to start.

[@specter1549]

@@johnglennmercury7 your fake news!

[@reggiep75]

@@johnglennmercury7 - Make a start tho.. I've got my popcorn, drink and I'm comfy as fk... I love a good Trump story!

[@coffeeoverloadj7541]

Powerful video! It brings back a lot of childhood memories. living on a welsh farm during the 2001 foot-and-mouth disease crisis I vividly remember my parent comparing it to the BSC crisis. During FAMD the mountains of carcasses burning on the hills could be seen for miles around and the glow lit up the skies at night. All told I hear that over 6million cows and sheep were culled.

[@livescript4462]

Someone in my school died of this - it was a couple years before I attended but the stories from her classmates as they watched her go down was so scary and sad.

[@hankdasilva3817]

Jesus, the synth lines during the transitions give me chills with how well they fit this gruesome subject.

[@noelleelizabeth9991]

I grew up in the US, but I remember this. My 2nd grade teacher said something about how she decided to become a vegetarian because of mad cow disease. Idk why she felt it was appropriate to describe to a bunch of 7 and 8 year olds how it "makes your brain eat it's self". She made it sound like it was happening over here, so when we had steak for dinner a few nights later I started crying because I was afraid my family would all get sick.

[@ellib.7770]

Still can happen. Eating flesh does make you more sick then healing you. Especially with all that antibiotics, gensoy, hormones and other bad stuff in the food for animals.

[@rhondahuggins9542]

Was in college and grad school in The US during those years...we were "insulated" from most of that news! There was a flutter here around the same time of the Canadian cases, but we knew so little. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the victim's families.

[@oppaloopa3698]

Can I ask how those in your community reacted once word really got out? When learning about past events we hardly get the chance to hear a perspective from a single communities reaction so it’s really interesting to me.

[@alicianieto2822]

I met one of the vets that had to go through the french coast, closing their farms and sending the entire family straight to economic ruin and often homelesness. He still had dreams about it

[@rochelleb1338]

My sister was just diagnosed with the mad cow disease last month this is so sad for my family to watch my sister die like this and to look at this video and see what was really going on with them feeding the cows leftover of disinfected meatt and we live in United States so it has to be here and United States we have had second opinion to see if this is what she really has and both Medical Center says that she has the mad cow disease this is so awful thank you for this video God bless

[@absolutelyridiculous6743]

Ooh my gosh, I am so very sorry to read this. I know this comment is two years later, but I hope you are healing from the trauma

[@archdukefranzferdinand2568]

Rest in peace to your sister, I am so sorry for your loss

[@CrowSyndicate]

Well... I'm gonna have trouble sleeping now------

[@joaquimrodriguez8961]

Ahhh. Feeling sleepy

[@DragonFae16]

These biographies of deadly diseases are scary and depressing, but also fascinating. I find myself hoping there will be more of them.

[@curt3494]

I was a kid when all of this was going on, and I can remember how our family and a lot of other people switched from eating beef, to eating lamb. As if the same unscrupulous farming practices aren't used in sheep farming 😂😂

[@KatGlos]

With all the uncertainty, I would not have taken the chance of eating lamb when any day there could have been an announcement that the disease had jumped from cows to sheep.

[@curt3494]

@@KatGlos Why didn't we all just stop eating animals altogether?

[@KatGlos]

@@curt3494 That would be even better.

[@andrewjones-productions]

”Unscrupulous farming practices”. INCORRECT! This was NOT the farmers that discovered feeding parts of other animals to their livestock but the large chemical manufacturers who produced the feed. The only feed that livestock farmers produce are hay, haylage, silage and that from cereals. Simon was absolutely incorrect and way out of line to accuse the farmers. Way out of line.

[@curt3494]

@@andrewjones-productions I class feeding mashed up sheep to cows, as 'unscrupulous farming practices'.

[@UmatsuObossa]

I remember this. Even in the USA, beef sales plummeted. My own family swore off beef for several months.

[@klazje]

my grandpa died from the human form of mad cow disease. it was an awful thing and i wish no one has to go through that. his was spontaneous (thankfully it wasn’t genetic) the fact that the government and corporations acted that way is sickening. i cannot stress how awful this disease is to witness. i watched a loving man who cared about his family so much and would’ve helped anyone no matter what turn into a husk of himself. he was like a father to me and in the end he didn’t know who i was. it was just so awful.

[@harveyholmes9533]

Just to rub some salt in the wound John Gummer remained an MP until 2010 when he stood down, he was made a baron and is now a member in the House of Lords.

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

That wretched anti democratic institution needs to be abolished, immediately. Full to the brim of snakes uninterested in the nation they're supposed to serve.

[@GlynWilliams1950]

disgraceful.

[@antoniusbritannia8217]

I hope he ate tainted beef

[@warwickeng5491]

His son was my local MP a few years ago, and he too was also a bit of a knob

[@dan11438]

Welcome to British politics…:rotten to the core

[@pikeyMcBarkin]

Finally you covered this. I have been trying to explain this to people for ages. I can't give blood because of this.

[@icatz]

I lived in the UK during this and was informed upon returning to the US that I was banned from giving blood for life. It's been decades but I still worry sometimes. I have a brain bleed that's slowly killing brain cells but the doctors here don't really know much about vCJD or if it's just a coincidence.

[@valerierodger7700]

@@icatz not any more. Because of the blood shortage due to covid-19, the FDA has lifted a number of blood donor bans

[@pikeyMcBarkin]

@@valerierodger7700 Thank you for the information.

[@LeoHKepler]

Likewise I spent years in my younger years learning about and trying to inform people about prions, for it to fall on deaf ears most of the time.

[@galaxyjam3742]

@@valerierodger7700 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *THEY WHAT?!?!?!?!*

[@glendaronning2400]

Hello Simon- great vlog! I was stationed in the UK in 92' when they started to report cases. I remember a woman who had died and they were trying to keep it under the radar- By the time I was stationed in Germany about 18 months later British beef had been banned at the NATO base we were at... To this day I cannot give blood. One of the questions on the questionnaire specifically asked if you have been in the United Kingdom during 1984 (I think) to 1996- that was the last time I tried to give blood. It is so interesting and annoying how history always repeats itself. Here in the US, our government is doing the same thing and ignoring the advice and recommendations of our scientists and to what avail! Thanks for sharing and take care!

[@brikramberg8084]

I was a kid in the US while this was happening. My dad and uncle were talking about it since my uncle raised cattle. This was in the 90s and my siblings and I got to be educated on Mad Cow Disease as my dad learned more.

[@charliebowyer4220]

Great video as always but as a farmer I'd just like to raise issue with the notion that farmers decided to feed animal protein back into cattle rations in order to gain more value from the cattle they sell. In the UK at least, we have next to zero control of how the carcass is processed once it enters processing - this was down to processors and regulators. We are victims of corporate greed as much as anyone, and the BSE outbreak was as good an example as you'd ever find.

[@dr.altoclef9255]

From what I read the government was throttling farmers pretty hard. “MORE. Just provide more. Don’t ask questions, just give us more beef. Why are you throwing out those organs? Use those too. Just keep up with the demand.”

[@brett4264]

Yes, I've seen the advertisements saying *"DON'T EAT GRANDMA"*

[@Your_Mossad_Handler]

Not all cultures are equal. The cannibalistic ones are on the left side of the bellcurve.

[@nicholaslewis8594]

Most of the cultures that practiced cannibalism have stopped, often after first contact.

[@aydenb.donlon2790]

@@nicholaslewis8594 there are actually a lot of groups in India that still practice cannibalism. I think someone from CNN went over there a few years ago and ate someone’s Brain.

[@Master_Yoda1990]

We still have a similar situation in America, some of our deer have CWD which is the deer form of CJD.

[@Henchman1977]

It's terrifying and most people don't have an idea. It hasn't jumped yet but it's only a matter of time.

[@Master_Yoda1990]

Ian Colquhoun that’s only because most people are careful, a lot of hunters are aware of the risk and there is evidence of CWD having the ability to infect primates.

[@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou]

@@Master_Yoda1990 Wow I'm just now putting 2 and 2 together... I've known about the disease in deer for a while I did not even think about it being the same thing.

[@cbbees1468]

@@Master_Yoda1990 Genuinely curious, how do hunters know if the deer they shot has this disease? Possibly because it takes hours of stalking before you can get a shot, but I'm not well versed on it and never knew this/a similar disease affected deer as well.

[@Master_Yoda1990]

@@cbbees1468 Usually the deer will look thin and dopey, kind of slower on responses, you’ll notice if something doesn’t seem right with the deer’s behavior. There’s plenty of deer where I hunt so if I’m shooting a doe, then I can have my hunt done in just a couple hours. If I’m hunting a buck, then it might be 2 days before I see one I want, just because I’m picky about the bucks I shoot.

[@tylerHphoto]

You should do a biographic on where Luddites came from. It an interesting story about the British textile industry.

[@alexstorr3357]

Yes, a good idea for a video!

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

They are their ages version of AI conspiracists. Fear the technology. Fear the future. Fear machinery. Seriously though, I'm from Huddersfield, Luddites are a part of this towns history. It's fascinating.

[@alexstorr3357]

@@jordan_roadhouse4798 My Dad is in Hebden, lovely place. It is a fascinating bit of history and one that in some way will repeat again this century.

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

@@alexstorr3357 Hebden is nice. I used to work, well deliver my work, around there. Lovely locals. I loved it. But yes, sadly, the return of a new form of Luddite is inevitable I feel. People are already fed up of mechanisation of the workplace but when machinery can do most jobs, that's when the violence starts. It's only specific things they can do right now but they're already replacing people. Hopefully it's all phased in rather than replacing people over a small amount of time. Because when people's livelihoods get taken away, they've nothing else to lose. And when you get an angry, out of work, working-class Northerner, well the world can feel that wrath.

[@alexstorr3357]

@@jordan_roadhouse4798 It's a subject I've looked into a fair bit - inspiring and worrying in equal measure. With so many industries currently being wasteful, inefficient and laborious our move to greater mechanisation is now so important. You're right though, it needs to be phased in. History is littered with examples of 'economic shocks' where change came too quickly. I for one welcome my Terminator overlords, as long as they're attractive like the T-X.

[@louiseerbslisbjerg7854]

My mum died from "spontanious" Creutzfeldt-Jacobs 5 years ago... This is a disease you NEVER want to see. Ever! It is the most horrible thing I've ever seen and I've worked around addicts, handicapped and extremely sick people. The neurologist exsressed it this way; "This makes us shake in our pants !nd want to call our mums"... She died 5 weeks after being diagnosed...which was mercifull but... no-one wants to go that way.

[@SanaTT]

I remember watching news about it on tv when I was child during the early 2000s but I had no idea how horrific it is

[@iamarawn]

This is weird. I was at my friends funeral this week. She died of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease

[@iamarawn]

@@shortkyuu7390 Thank you

[@MichaelaBennison]

"You can live in a functional democracy" yeah, as a Brit that's not how I'd describe Britain atm

[@pingwingugu5]

Yeah lack of free speech was quite surprising for me when I moved to UK. The fact that you can be arrested in here for telling a bad non-threatening joke on any social media is disturbing to me. Democracies shouldn't punish people for bad jokes.

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

Just because the people don't elect the politicians you like or vote for policies you don't like doesn't mean it's not a functional democracy.. You may hate Boris Johnson for example, but the fact is that his party won the largest landslide in nearly 100 years last election. That's democracy in action..

[@MarcusCato275]

Democracy is neither here or there. Any government system is flawed whether democracy, monarchy, fascism or communism. Competent leaders make or break a country. And Britain more often than not tend to lack such individuals.

[@maxwild1212]

@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath A single party gaining an 80-seat majority with 43% of the vote is not "democracy in action".

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

@@maxwild1212 You realize there are many different parties in the UK right? It’s not like the US, where there are only two.. A 43% victory for a single party is a landslide. It literally was the largest win for any party in nearly 100 years. I didn’t make that up, it’s a fact.

[@rodrickrori1926]

Something a bit terrifying is that cows are often slaughtered within 3 years or less, that time period is usually not enough for the carrier to show symptoms of the disease allowing to be passed down for consumption.

[@OffRampTourist]

Wondered if anyone would catch that. Grew up on a cattle ranch. Don't eat beef. Or venison.

[@RaedanWulfe]

I'm suddenly terrified about the UK government no longer having at least rudimentary EU oversight...

[@glorifiedonion6676]

I didn't expect crossout to sponsor a video about BSE strange world

[@Dan19870]

Well that was terrifying. Knowing that my family and friends and I could drop dead due to this disease.

[@juliejay5436]

Even more terrifying when you think it could had been prevented!

[@gdogg3710]

No one born after 1989 has test positive for vcjd so far. Read extensively on BSE over many years and from what I can tell, there will probably be a handful of MV deaths, no more...

[@agathor86]

All those politicians and civil servants have blood on their hands. I always hated my government, and the BSE story makes me hate them even more.

[@MVDVM]

While I’m the subject of animals, y’all wanna do one on Assault “The Crippled Comet.” The horse, from Texas’s famous King Ranch raised by a ranch hand’s son, that won’t the 1946 Triple Crown races despite having a life long club foot deformity.

[@ebba5980]

I'd like that. Or Snowman, the horse that was literally bought off the trailer on the way to the slaughterhouse and became a legendary show jumping champion.

[@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365]

Makes me cringe when I hear politicians saying that corporations should be allowed to "self-regulate"...

[@anufoalan]

I think that it’s incredibly important to mention about Creutzfelt-Jakob’s Disease (CJD) most cases of CJD that we see, that are not related to BSE, are hereditary, it most often passes from a parent to child but can pass in a number of genetic connections, and tends to effect those who are relatively young, age 30 and under

[@registeelix]

You should do your biography.

[@philosophyoftrucking]

Or Danny

[@sharkfinn4]

I'd watch that! A biography of the man with KZbin's most pleasant speaking voice, read by the man with KZbin's most pleasant speaking voice.

[@brucewayne1894]

@Hoàng Nguyên And he shall stay that way, fortunately.

[@JohnDoe-vn1we]

This pathetic loser asks this on every video even though they have said no.

[@registeelix]

@@JohnDoe-vn1we And *this* 'pathetic loser' scrolls through each video's comment section just to find my comment on each video. It's tradition. I'm on a 2 year streak.

[@bikkiikun]

These traitors, way up to Thatcher should have gotten life sentences.

[@stain4128]

They should of been executed

[@Sublimeoo]

no they should have been made to eat infected meat and suffer from cjd

[@stain4128]

@@Sublimeoo that would of been great every now and then we need to show the goverment that they're are consequences for they're actions they're not above the law or us

[@Sublimeoo]

@F H steady on, we need the falklands for tactical sheep purposes

[@Sublimeoo]

@F H trouble is its inhabited by British people, who last time they were asked wished to remain so, which i think is fair enough. Admittedly i also think its fair enough that any gas/oil in Falklands waters belongs rightfully to Argentina

[@wolfcat1998]

"I'm not gonna ask if you enjoyed that video..." Don't kink shame me, bro!

[@johnhorsburgh8473]

Definitely lad lol

[@Prototheria]

I want to give you a thumbs up, but you're at 69 of them right now. Which is nice. Niiiiiiiice.

[@homersimpsonsfatguyhat9541]

This is the best and most comprehensive information on bse and vcjd that I've come across. Well done!

[@dougontheotherchannel3078]

"beef is safe" hits a lot like "average people don't need masks". Remember that banger from March?

[@roonilwazlib3089]

🤔

[@RichO1701e]

Tory government is always going to lie to protect the profits of the filthy rich and land owners over the health of the common folk plebs. Tories Lie, people die

[@JoshSweetvale]

That was also a strategic lie. To keep hospital workers in masks. *Don't expect your government to tell you* what's actually going on. To paraphrase M.I.B: *People are panicky animals.*

[@kimhohlmayer7018]

This is my third of your videos about disease tonight and for the third time I could tell you a personal story on this disease too. About eight years ago a person in our community I knew developed and died from this awful disease. We don’t know how she got it. This was in Ohio in the US.

[@archdukefranzferdinand2568]

it might have randomly developed in the brain. this happens about 150 times a year worldwide so it is VERY rare but possible

[@davidmaxwaterman]

I remember that they were having trouble killing it, since it isn't even alive...the prions survived all usual methods of sterilising surgical equipment. I guess they found a way, but I wonder what it was...

[@AD_AP_T]

Alkaline hydrolysis or complete cremation.

[@danforthlaertes]

I remember at the beginning of this two incidents; in the grocery store and overhearing a woman refusing to buy beef and saying she would instead buy "mince" (which in the UK means "minced (or ground) beef") which she clearly thought was distinct; and seeing on the television interviews with shoppers leaving the grocery stores who had bought or not bought beef. The beef, of course, was heavily discounted in the early stages because people were worried about it despite assurances. An old lady had filled her cart with beef and the interviewer asked her about it. "I like a bit of beef" she said. "Are you not worried about the disease?" he asked. "They say it takes ten years to develop, dearie - I'll be dead then anyway" and off she went.

[@lesleysears9808]

I am a nurse who took care of a young adult rapidly deteriorating from this disease back in 2015.

[@nokes22]

Thanks to Brexit we’ve got all this fun deregulation to come in regard to food standards. Hey, at least we haven’t got European safety laws to worry about anymore! 🙄

[@johnennis4586]

Oh jog on

[@twocvbloke]

Another thing to add to the list of shite that Thatcher has punished us brits with, I remember refusing to eat beef for a few years after the headlines came out, now I know there's the potential for a 2nd wave from a dormant version of the disease, it makes me wonder if something I ate in the 10 years between my birth and the announcement of BSE could be the end of me somehow, which given the shite this year's piled upon us all, isn't a comforting thought... :( Thatcher was truly the most evil person to have ruled modern britain...

[@katashworth41]

twocvbloke and Johnson is close behind. The Tories are scum.

[@RedXlV]

The fact that so little of what she did to destroy Britain has been reversed after she left power is simply baffling.

[@watermelonineasterhay]

And the slugs keep voting for more salt.

[@TechSupport900]

Simons beard continues to grow, it’s as inevitable as the queen living forever and China having another civil war

[@T.H.E.O.R.Y.]

I was wondering if it did look longer and fuller. That man takes good care of himself.

[@katelyngerk5773]

My dad who’s American studied in England when mad cow disease was happening, he can’t give blood he doesn’t really remember much about the disease. He just remembers that it was kind of weird.

[@darrenjones6765]

What an interesting anecdote.

[@hannahkat9722]

to give people an idea of how scared people got, i remember my dad refusing to buy beef until the mid-2010s

[@mickimicki]

In 1984, the Smiths released "Meat is Murder", and listening to it somehow made my 13-year-old self stop eating meat for good. And I'm really glad about that, because I visited the UK several times in the following years, but I never ate any of their beef or "mechanically retrieved meat" stuff. Thanks, Morrissey!

[@iphail4733]

The c in "encephalopathy" is a soft c, not hard (at least in British English)

[@Sublimeoo]

i hear medical people say it with a hard and soft c in the UK, although cephalopod is a soft c

[@killval849]

in Murican English as well. = D

[@patpierce4854]

Most of the medical folks in the US use the soft c (sounding like an s); however, I hear the hard c (k sound) more often from folks on the other side of The Pond.

[@--enyo--]

In Australia it goes either way. It’s certainly not incorrect to use either.

[@sonyabunkum6212]

Liliana Bray very true that Australians use both, but those who speak English, like the British, can get a little irked sometimes

[@worldofdoom995]

How many lives could be saved if politicians and businessmen listened to the warnings of scientists and engineers early on instead of waiting for the worst case scenario.

[@sandybarnes887]

I'd say around 180,000 in the U.S. alone.

[@masondubois1273]

Northern Monkey Never mind Cuomo sticking COVID patients in nursing homes

[@monticore1626]

They listened very closely to the advice and then they made the conscious decision to trade human lives for their political positions

[@Potatopot724]

Yes, listen to obviously all knowing perfect scientists. Like Dr Fauci saying Corona isn't dangerous at all and no need for masks back in the early days of this dumb virus everyone's lost their damn minds over...

[@dazsmith3201]

I remember this happening. Any chance of a video on the next farming disaster - the Foot and Mouth crisis?

[@GTaichou]

In the northern Midwest USA we've been struggling against chronic wasting disease in our deer populations. It affects the brain and spinal cord, and it's suspected it was transmitted from feed made from Mad Cow casualties or transmitted from some other cow/deer contact. The same concerns about jumping species from deer to human made headlines in Wisconsin. (I can't speak for other states)