BTD5: The Limit Of Deflation Mode

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Phenomix

Phenomix

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@sinom_00
@sinom_00 Ай бұрын
this channel has inspired me to give btd5 a shot, honestly it has a really different feel to 6 i'd recommend anyone who's only played 6 to try it
@Mikolas12234
@Mikolas12234 Ай бұрын
Yea bro try flash on ninja kiwi archive ye that woest version of btd5 but just feel. That in 2018 paying for games (me and friends) was like none so flash was only and that was amazing
@JediSteve-J3-
@JediSteve-J3- Ай бұрын
Wait There's a 6th game?
@cheese1627
@cheese1627 Ай бұрын
Cheese
@RandomBloonStuff
@RandomBloonStuff Ай бұрын
​@@JediSteve-J3- Yeah, it's been out for 6 years already
@TornadoTrick
@TornadoTrick Ай бұрын
@@JediSteve-J3-how do you not know lmao
@someguy1783
@someguy1783 Ай бұрын
peak content. (ive never played btd5 in my life)
@pleasyazazamat2077
@pleasyazazamat2077 Ай бұрын
same thing
@howsitgoing2397
@howsitgoing2397 Ай бұрын
Bloons is my life !!
@Btd6permaspikes
@Btd6permaspikes Ай бұрын
​@@howsitgoing2397You should really got to a doctor. Dont go near a dart
@antigayslam
@antigayslam Ай бұрын
i only can play btd5 era games lol and btdb2
@Btd6permaspikes
@Btd6permaspikes Ай бұрын
@antigayslam i am stuck in the basement. Send food.. PLEASE
@thesandwich7151
@thesandwich7151 Ай бұрын
Dang the ramping has gotta be insane in this game, even with all the death lasers you still only went 10 more rounds
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I could be wrong but I think Deflation Mode uses the same difficulty as Medium, so it was really surprising to me that the Freeplay rounds got that difficult so quickly.
@Arcticgdnmore
@Arcticgdnmore Ай бұрын
You could have probably saved around 100 dollars on the village upgrades by getting 2 villages and selling the other one for 99% sellback lol Very useful, I know
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That's true and I mean honestly 100 bucks is still extra range on another MOAB Mauler lol, every bit counts for sure.
@omnomnom1410
@omnomnom1410 Ай бұрын
Perfect timing to watch while getting ready for bed
@74Degrees
@74Degrees Ай бұрын
dude your content is amazing, nobody else is making btd5 content like this anymore, thanks for keeping my love for the game alive
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm really glad that people can still enjoy BTD5 with me through these videos
@glade2216
@glade2216 Ай бұрын
So happy that you are keeping this game alive! :)
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm really grateful people will still watch BTD5 content in 2024, I never expected to get this far honestly
@gebackenebananee5743
@gebackenebananee5743 Ай бұрын
BTD5 videos always bring back great memories of playing it back in school
@RafaCB0987
@RafaCB0987 Ай бұрын
That was impressive, didn't though that you would be able to get that far
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I was honestly really surprised myself!
@evanrosman9226
@evanrosman9226 Ай бұрын
I am a fan of the Bloons Tower Defense series.
@WillMAW2
@WillMAW2 Ай бұрын
it's nice to have those little montages to chill to, meta progression really helps to push this run further wowz (also btdx vid when)
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Yoo you're right I really gotta get back on BTDx, it's been awhile now
@DarkShadow8754
@DarkShadow8754 Ай бұрын
@@Phenomix Speaking of BTDx, maybe there is (or soon) an early build of BTDx2? Hopefully it will be a great game.
@DEFRaven
@DEFRaven Ай бұрын
Nice, I was just looking for a new upload
@raimuu14
@raimuu14 Ай бұрын
I was doing some digging on Monkey Fort and apparently many "splatter" projectiles (mostly explosives) pierce and cause an additional attack when in range of 0/1 village. Notable examples that might have implications for this run are Hydra Rocket Pods, Spectre and MOAB Assassin.
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That's really good to know, I appreciate you sharing!
@diamondyoshi6649
@diamondyoshi6649 Ай бұрын
I was fuming when you forgot to get absolute zero. Seriously, it cripples the speed of moabs even though it probably shouldn't (because it's kinda OP sometimes). You could also use bloon sabotage for even more slowdown.
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I thought absolute zero only slowed MOAB class bloons in BTD Battles honestly, I know Sabo only works on newly spawned bloons which is the reason I didn't use it here. Not saying it wouldn't work I just wasn't sure if it was worth go away from the traditional deflation strategy
@David_TheSuperior
@David_TheSuperior Ай бұрын
Given I've seen your part of the bargain, and someone mentioning the lack of Absolute Zero, not a bad first try. Given it can be overcome with the use of AZ, at the expense of some Maulers, but even then two or bit more Maulers left out doesn't compare to basically near double the time to tear through the tougher layers before the faster MOABs zip by.
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I honestly didn't realize Absolute Zero can affect MOAB class bloons in BTD5, I really thought that was only a Battles thing
@WizardBrandon
@WizardBrandon 16 күн бұрын
@@Phenomix it kills pretty much everything in one hit
@vilzuz
@vilzuz Ай бұрын
You could spent all your savings to buy super monkey storms and just spam them to eternity.
@Mikolas12234
@Mikolas12234 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU BRO FOR BTD5 CONTENT 🙏🙏🙏 I NEEDED IT🙏🙏 FINALLY ONE PERSON🙏🙏
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I'm really glad to hear that bro it's awesome to see people still wanting to watch it!
@benny-tv6px
@benny-tv6px Ай бұрын
you always face freeplay bloons in deflation in btd5, because in this mode there is no goal round (or round 0), any bloon after the goal round will always use freeplay bloons rules (aka easy r51, medium r66 and hard r86)
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
No wonder it gets difficult so quickly then
@foxyRaccoon123
@foxyRaccoon123 Ай бұрын
So awesome you can push deflation to its true limit!!! (If on flash you can use premiums to spam ground zero ability I saw the video long ago)
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I definitely gotta make a video on the Flash Version of BTD5
@idklol309
@idklol309 Ай бұрын
I don't know if this applies to btd5, but btd6 can slightly impact gameplay if you use the speedup function, dunno if that could squeeze out an extra round
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I've heard that about BTD6 as well and I'm sure it does apply to BTD5 as well
@1Rouge
@1Rouge Ай бұрын
Have u thought about Sabo and absolute zero? I'm pretty sure that stalling will make a difference
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I definitely considered it and I could try them still, I have the run saved still
@leonardotrujillo8661
@leonardotrujillo8661 Ай бұрын
I was going to comment that too
@jezierskioliwier2212
@jezierskioliwier2212 Ай бұрын
Dont they only work on moabs in battles?
@Babatunde_69420
@Babatunde_69420 Ай бұрын
no​@@jezierskioliwier2212
@swichedd
@swichedd Ай бұрын
Nice video. As someone already said I think if you used sabo to slow bloons coming in and the ice ability to slow the blimps then maybe you could’ve gotten further. If call to arms works on the bloonsday devices maybe that wouldve helped but idk. GG
@smo_phoenix
@smo_phoenix 28 күн бұрын
I think the biggest thing I saw for improvement was your positioning for your ice shards. I never really saw it produce any ice shards, because the position dictates the timing with the arctic wind. If you mess around with the positioning, it will do a lot more damage, even to the ZOMG’s
@rakenzarnsworld2
@rakenzarnsworld2 7 күн бұрын
Tip: Using multiple village will reduce the cost of both village's upgrades.
@TheOfficialBloxyTube
@TheOfficialBloxyTube Ай бұрын
Epic Strat🎉
@Blackshadow_w
@Blackshadow_w Ай бұрын
Nice video!❤ I would have said that the passages with the sped up footage were a little bit boring but the peak music was a great filler! (I love Tim Haywood)
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I was heavily debating if I should include them or not and I was really hoping the music would help haha, glad to hear it did
@Copydog2686
@Copydog2686 Ай бұрын
Banging video. If u really wanted to extend it further you could theoretically start spamming super monkey storms right? i don't know how effective it would be but it would surely help a little bit. would be ridiculously expensive tho
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I'm sure that would have some value for sure, but I was mainly worried they would be difficult to use because their isn't a hotkey for special agents and the mouse was controlling my Bloonsday Devices
@Copydog2686
@Copydog2686 Ай бұрын
@@Phenomix aahhhh. damn so you probably got pretty much up on the limit then. Well done!
@AlbiM1
@AlbiM1 Ай бұрын
My pb on deflation in this map is round 104 (NAPS), no idea what the actual WR is though. Nice video man!
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Were you using a monkey knowledge lab by chance because if not that is absolutely insane. I think my best run was 107 under NAPS but with the Lab maxed out
@AlbiM1
@AlbiM1 Ай бұрын
@@Phenomix Nop dude, lab was off! I got challenged by another BTD5 youtuber!
@AlbiM1
@AlbiM1 Ай бұрын
@@Phenomix Round 104 was nowhere near beatable for me though😅
@AlbiM1
@AlbiM1 Ай бұрын
@@Phenomix Just tried again out of curiosity: New PB, got to round 105, though i cant really pass it. NAPS and lab fully off.
@rakenzarnsworld2
@rakenzarnsworld2 20 күн бұрын
In theory, it's infinite because of Super Monkey Storm.
@robbob9636
@robbob9636 Ай бұрын
wouldnt a radar scanner village just been less expensive than both ice monkeys?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Oh for sure but I also use the ice towers to clean up all the ceramics because the bombs wouldn't be enough to handle them on their own.
@rakenzarnsworld2
@rakenzarnsworld2 20 күн бұрын
I've got to round 146 in BTD5 deflation on Flash with all premiums activated. The RBE on R146 is: 1,740,252
@Phenomix
@Phenomix 20 күн бұрын
That's insane!
@pannukattila9369
@pannukattila9369 Ай бұрын
Never really played deflation, but would a 4th tier ninja and ice abilities make things easier? Or is it better just to get maulers
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That is definitely possible, the one issue with them is that they only stall new bloons in this game, which means you don't get nearly as much value as you do in BTD Battles
@MatteoBlooner
@MatteoBlooner 4 күн бұрын
@@PhenomixI just did an attempt with the ninja and ice abilities, and it does seem to be quite effective as I made it to round 150 with it.
@omnomnom1410
@omnomnom1410 Ай бұрын
Is there ramping in this game? Like in BTD6 where all the bloons progressively get faster and blimps gain more HP the further you get in freeplay
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Yeah I'm not exactly sure how the stats work but I know there is ramping for sure
@d.benjammin
@d.benjammin Ай бұрын
I think ramping is not percent based so there not really a limit if you can spam temples
@justenoughrandomness8989
@justenoughrandomness8989 Ай бұрын
is there a better tower than moab mauler lategame (for the price) and is call to arms worth it?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Call to Arms could definitely be worth it, depending on how long it lasts compared to its cool down duration. As far as the Maulers go, I think it tends to be the best late game tower when your funds are limited but the 4,2 Bloonchipper is the best overall
@scptelevised
@scptelevised Ай бұрын
is that the btd4 sountrack on the later bit of the sped up gameplay?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Yessir that was the last song in the video
@bruhe_0
@bruhe_0 Ай бұрын
what does the bomb ability do? you had 39 of those and you couldve used them
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
It actually just doubles the range of the bomb tower, which is notorious for being the only activated ability that can make towers worse. Since the range becomes so huge they can end up missing sometimes.
@Ruby_Sky
@Ruby_Sky Ай бұрын
idea: how far can you go in btd6 using only btd5 upgrades?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That's definitely a good idea and I've considered doing it before, when I made my video "Can BTD1 Towers Beat BTD5". I'm thinking a video with BTD5 towers in BTD6 could be a good way to transition into also posting content on the newest game
@snomgangscorch9557
@snomgangscorch9557 Ай бұрын
What about doing the same thing, just replacing the bombs with 4-0 chippers? You could completely cut the village out of the equation.
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I was thinking about that myself, I can definitely give it a try and see if that makes it further
@snomgangscorch9557
@snomgangscorch9557 Ай бұрын
@ Oh yeah, and towards the end, when your defense is getting overwhelmed, sell everything, and start spamming Ground Zero abilities. Should be enough to squeeze out a few more rounds.
@BoutaganeYoucef
@BoutaganeYoucef Ай бұрын
If Express shiping didnt exist then what map would you use for these videos?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That's a good question, if you go back to one of my first videos I actually didn't know Express Shipping was the longest map yet, so I used Maze instead.
@BoutaganeYoucef
@BoutaganeYoucef Ай бұрын
@Phenomix thanks for answering
@Shefepicffan32
@Shefepicffan32 Ай бұрын
Phenomix if it Expréss Shiping didn't exist:Now what do I do dude?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I would have to remake it myself lol, but for real I'm glad they added it to the game because BTD5 didn't really have a map that's similar to Logs on BTD6 before it
@brandonbombplays9304
@brandonbombplays9304 Ай бұрын
​@@Phenomix The equivalent to express shipping in 6 is definitely resort, not logs. Just look at it
@catgirllucy
@catgirllucy Ай бұрын
what about supermonkey storm ?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking about that as well, I just wasn't sure if it was worth using since it's only a 1 time use. But I'll have to try it out for sure
@hugoplayz1234-p1d
@hugoplayz1234-p1d Ай бұрын
I think there can be a better strategy than MOAB maulers and ice monkey
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
It's definitely possible, but I'm not sure what it would be cause that's always been the strategy people use
@brandonbombplays9304
@brandonbombplays9304 Ай бұрын
Moab maulers just do way too insane damage. Find something else that can solo the Moab layer on any map for 2.5k, I dare you.
@RandomBloonStuff
@RandomBloonStuff Ай бұрын
Now try this on Apopalypse
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That's a great idea I noticed there barely seems to be any content about Apopalypse
@squiddler7731
@squiddler7731 Ай бұрын
I'm surprised bloonchipper isn't used here. Is it cause it's not actually good, or is it just not in this version of the game?
@unnamed312
@unnamed312 Ай бұрын
It's definitely better, but it's simply too expensive for a deflation run and not as effective due to lack of money
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Yeah that was my thinking as well, due to the price of a 4,0 I don't think it's worth using over the bomb tower.
@pinnobeansandgawwik
@pinnobeansandgawwik Ай бұрын
I remember when you had 600 subs
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Thanks for being one of them!
@itsafeature
@itsafeature Ай бұрын
Could you have spammed super monkey storms?
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That could have possibly helped, but unfortunately there are no hotkeys for the special agents, so I would have to keep clicking on the super monkey Storm and then bringing my mouse back to the bloons.
@manineo3538
@manineo3538 3 күн бұрын
I mean you could use super monkey storms infinitely but that'd be boring
@Phenomix
@Phenomix 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I should've tested those for a bit definitely
@Joinker
@Joinker Ай бұрын
Pog
@Pickle6443
@Pickle6443 Ай бұрын
ers
@frutigerwave
@frutigerwave Ай бұрын
Why is half the video gameplay with music
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
I wanted to try something new with this video, and I also didn't want it to only be 5 minutes long. So I figured people might want to see the progression of freeplay rounds
@brandonbombplays9304
@brandonbombplays9304 Ай бұрын
video games
@notragingYT
@notragingYT Ай бұрын
poggers
@ashmander3465
@ashmander3465 Ай бұрын
Deflation mode was the best in btd 4 and 5. In 6 it sucks
@brandonbombplays9304
@brandonbombplays9304 Ай бұрын
Why?????? Pretty sure it kinda sucked in all of them
@maks-jo4dm
@maks-jo4dm Ай бұрын
next make impoppable wr so how far in impobbable mode
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
That's a good idea for sure, I do have a video where I test the limits of BTD5 high rounds in general.
@maks-jo4dm
@maks-jo4dm Ай бұрын
i just woke up lol
@Pickle6443
@Pickle6443 Ай бұрын
Hmm, me likey
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@khushangchauhan5650
@khushangchauhan5650 Ай бұрын
where did the moistcritical voice go lol
@Simeon920
@Simeon920 Ай бұрын
I got btd5
@melollelo
@melollelo Ай бұрын
"No agents, Premium upgrades or specialist buildings" proceeds to violate each rule in the worst way possible
@Phenomix
@Phenomix Ай бұрын
Wait I'm confused, you know I specifically said I'm not bound by any of those rules this time, right?
@melollelo
@melollelo Ай бұрын
oh sorry i didn't realize that lol
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