"bTd5 wAs BeTteR"

[@pingu4080]

If you still think 5 is better you prob haven’t tried 6 yet lol, but it's totally fine if you prefer 5

[@timtamtube3683]

RIP bloonchipper you will be missed, but we moved on

[@mingrat8866]

@@timtamtube3683 yea, but it was kinda op and could suck moabs

[@kurgerbing3787]

@@mingrat8866 it was so Op and didnt actually SUCK

[@captainsnake8515]

I don’t think anyone who says btd5 was better is making their argument based on the visuals of the games, like this video suggests. Most of them probably just prefer the btd5 meta over the btd6 meta, or like it for nostalgia reasons. (Personally I prefer 6, but I’m just saying everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that there’s a lot more reasons to prefer one game over another than just the tower art.)

[@dogesquare1587]

I did try 6 but I play 5 for while cus I'm good at it

[@rayhan285]

It's kinda mind blowing seeing the old art for the tower and goes "wait, it was like that?" Or "damn"

[@mdshafiquzzaman4911]

Me who says damn was it like that?

[@I-am-stupid278]

@@mdshafiquzzaman4911 i do

[@blutwirbel3180]

I just got dejavu by looking at your comment

[@potato.09]

bro thats actually so true

[@jonahpowell9118]

Some of these are fan art tho :/ most actually

[@pessskychaos4874]

Btd 5 was great at its time but the versatility you get from 3 different paths makes it impossibleto go back

[@joeyman2525]

Not impossible, good sir. I have BTD6 on my computer, and BTD5 on my phone, and I'm still perfectly content to play BTD5. Both are good games, although I agree BTD6 is better.

[@thetheoritizerbutfromwork6654]

@@joeyman2525 Still waiting for Bloons Monkey City 2, that's the only game I have btd5 style. It i still enjoyable, but having a choice mmm...

[@ConsarnitTokkori]

too bad boomerang thrower got nerfed in 6 the specialty buffs made it one of the best fuckers to just spam

[@CPI99]

Yea basically

[@lancetheking7524]

@@thetheoritizerbutfromwork6654 would be great ngl

[@moonwatchereclipse5291]

A lot of people seem to forget how gorgeous the artwork in BTD6 is, especially compared to the other games.

[@Crazylom]

Might be uncanniness of new artstyle. Remember the fuss?

[@lancetheking7524]

Remember when the bloons were 2d in btd6

[@MrMoron-qn5rx]

I rember getting pissed at the btd 5 artstyle cause btd 4 was TOTALLY better... as you can imagine, i have a lot of regrets.

[@youreverydaysleepparalysis6595]

And modeling, Can't forget that.

[@fortnut5951]

Ew

[@Armando36462]

BTD5 was my favorite because of how it stepped up from BTD4, it was a massive change in terms of looks When BTD6 came out, I judged it unfairly because I looked at the screenshots and I wasn't a fan of the 3D look (not sure why) I decided to pay for it and gave it a try and I changed my mind instantly, BTD6 was just amazing in every way, and I definitely owed an apology to BTD6 for not giving it a try before judging

[@kreatona4219]

It's fair to be critical of the art style change. I personally like the 3d models but I can understand why a lot of people can be iffy on it compared to the 2d look

[@slendo_boi]

Wait isn’t it free tho?

[@slendo_boi]

@MageBurger oh okay, it’s free on mobile but like 15 bucks on steam

[@wutertots1087]

@@slendo_boi used to cost money. I bought the mobile version when it did cost money and got salty when I saw how it became free at least a year later

[@bonzopippinpaddleopsicopolis]

@@slendo_boi huh? It's not free

[@pairless]

the literal definition of, "im glad i grew up with this but damn this is better"

[@joannehill6648]

MAN SPEAKING FAX

[@lilgongillioning]

@@Waltuh59 same

[@israelmateo2050]

That's what I love about bloons, they are constantly evolving, there's no game which I feel is going backwards

[@plasma2853]

@@israelmateo2050 battles 2 imo is worse than battles 1 but other than that yeah

[@dashingclasher]

@@plasma2853 nah, battles 2 wasn't executed the best but as a concept it's still a great game battles 1 is a great game too, and i enjoyed it a lot, but i think battles 2 was the most logical step forward to fix the main issues of battles 1

[@theriolulad4808]

The thing about BTD5 is that the towers and artwork looks like it's from a flash game; which is how BTD5 started

[@ericrodriguez990]

Yeah and while is still is charming, Bloons TD has grown over the years past it's status as a flash game and BTD6 exemplifies that in it's artwork. Change is good

[@S0ME_GUY]

I think that art style is more charming (maybe cause I grew up with it) but the new style was needed for a more modern audience

[@shalvei_]

@@S0ME_GUY yeah you're blinded by nostalgia, played 5 recently and the graphics really don't hold up. Everything is in 480p and they're goddamn pngs for crying out loud. BTD6 artstyle actually has a charm to it that's not a flash-game-texture-that-was-made-in-5-minutes, straight up so much better in quality while being stylized to the point you'd register it immediately if you came across it in the wild.

[@S0ME_GUY]

@@shalvei_ if you played on the browser, yeah it's low quality. Also this is all opinionated, stop acting like your opinion is fact. "They're godamn pngs" what else do you want them to be????? Have you ever created a flash game? That's how it works. That's like saying mew super Mario Bros U is better that super Mario world because it has 3D models.

[@shalvei_]

@@S0ME_GUY eh, never said my opinion was a fact. TD6 obviously had a much higher budget on graphics

[@sirtangerine1465]

I love how in BTD5 the Mortar carefully places the shell in the Mortar itself and in BTD6 The Big one just yeets it in.

[@alexalerjasoares8621]

Oh sorry if i copied u but ig that nowa days the youtubers only care to the top shelf not to the middle of bottom shelf(sorry for being agressive)

[@BlueRGuy]

@@alexalerjasoares8621 w h a t

[@dereckteixeira9520]

@@alexalerjasoares8621 that makes no sense

[@RedRanger-ll7hx]

The new motar monkey cares not for silly things like "radiation"

[@Blockbustah]

Even in BTDB2 mortar placement animation is monke dunking a shell in the mortar (mastery ofc)

[@queendread4427]

I like how the aircraft carriers went from "Remote control boat remotely controlling planes" to "I *AM* THE NAVY B I T C H"

[@meapyboy12345]

😂🤣 yeah with the navarch of the seas the monkey captain just yelling on the boat

[@trainerlsw]

And the pirates went from "yar har fiddle tee dee" to "I AM THE KING OF THE SEAS!"

[@albireo2990]

we went from a cool laser beacon to a slingshot castle.

[@bottleomustard97]

1:43 I love how the mortar goes from 'Ok carefully load in the nuclear bomb' to 'YEET IT'S TIME TO SLAM DUNK DIS NUKE'

[@b.a.dgaming7246]

Lol

[@agentdeltaroblox]

Literally tho

[@andreasioannides5780]

Bro got the t5 path and became MJ

[@foldfoldfoldfold]

COME ON AND SLAM

[@briancochran1348]

The nuke when it lands: *taco bell death*

[@johnpaulcross424]

It’s honestly impressive how drastically they upgraded everything, props to NK.

[@cantthinkofnameyeah7249]

You know all the btd5 pictures are mostly just crappy fan arts right? Btd6 has bad fan art also, btd5 had good art too, the style was different thats it

[@Libellule711]

yeah they upgraded to 3d

[@Weegiest_beegi]

@@cantthinkofnameyeah7249 definitely not just the style

[@RaceNinja]

Not everything.

[@SagyTity1]

@Blast yea, i really like the 2d artstyle ninja kiwi used to use. but btd 6 graphics are cool too i guess

[@MysticG03]

I've played both and Know 5 was a great game... but 6 really is just better in basically every way. From Tier 5, to Paragon, to Cleaner designs, It's actually more balanced too cause BTD5 RoD was bit too busted and that's reserved for T5 now, Many of the Building abilities in 5 for Towers are incorporated into towers as a Path (Sentry Champion) or Inately now (Dartling Lock) for example and there's more replay capability due to All the Knowledges and C.H.I.M.P.S difficulty being extreme but somewhat true to old Impoppable.

[@PlatinumSceptile]

can confirm i never got all the paths in btd 5 but i am like level 109 and have every ability and im making my way towards all the knowledges. i more thing id like to add is that, unlike btd 5, every path is useful in its own way. take dartling for an example, ray of doom is amazing dps, MAD is used for, and is super good for, moabs class bloons, and bez is for the people who hate micro. the only thing id say btd 5 had better was.... well.... i cant think of a way where btd 5 was better. (also btw i can never write as long as a comment as you without editing it. props to you for that)

[@juliaf_]

Heh dart monkey building+triple dart spam. Definitely not broken at all :)

[@PlatinumSceptile]

@@juliaf_ wth is a dart momkey building?

[@juliaf_]

@@PlatinumSceptile specialty/specialist buildings in btd5. The dart monkey one was called the Dart Training Facility. The max upgrade gave the tower a special effect. For example, dart monkey was exploding darts, and for super it was the vengeful temple.

[@PlatinumSceptile]

@@juliaf_ well one plus from the chabge from buildings to knowledge is that the vengeful is a full tower now instead of just an ability.

[@maruchan458]

*We still don't forgive you for abandoning us, we were thrown out and left to rot* -sincerely BTD1 community

[@nicathenoob19]

As a btd 1 player i can confirm

[@hobomike6935]

Your community walked so ours could run.

[@nitecore-wx9lj]

Return the screen wipe to the village please- btd2 fan

[@liamcherry3618]

No... Btd1 developed the rest of the games, instead of being replaced he's more like a father to the other games

[@flamenami]

Oh no all 5 people must be so upset

[@L.E.8365]

It’s crazy to think that BTD was once a throwing puzzle game, to a flash tower defense game, to having mobile and computer installments, to finally going into 3D visuals and expanding much further on the original.

[@Wheeljackdaboi]

i pefer 6 even though i can only play 5

[@gerhardjohansson5431]

@@Wheeljackdaboi why can u only play 5?

[@bonzopippinpaddleopsicopolis]

@@gerhardjohansson5431 he probably didn't buy 6

[@CandiceGoddard]

Not really. I remember when the original Bloons hit the internet and you could make up your own puzzles. Back then I don't think I would have imagined where Bloons is now with the Monkey City, Tower Defense games and so on, but the progression has been steady so it's not "crazy" in my opinion.

[@kemix1357]

Its more like a 2.5D game but yes

[@Shyguymask]

0:17 That Tech terror is from Bloons Adventure Time TD dude.

[@dhdhdshshags]

First

[@kelpykelp1542]

Hey shy guy!

[@SomeCowguy]

Wow someone other than me played the game???

[@creppersaurusrex2300]

Now that i think about it, BATTD was the stepping stone between BTD5 and BTD6

[@annoyingguide8234]

@@creppersaurusrex2300 Nope BTD6 came out in 2018 BATTD came out in 2019.

[@funnyeh1298]

I like BTD6, but BTD5 will always have a special place in my heart for being my childhood game.

[@centech69]

Same

[@johnnygarrison6999]

The truth tho

[@Im_very_hungry]

Everyone agrees

[@joeyman2525]

_Everyone liked that_

[@parke6704]

Same but I think BTD6 is objectively better

[@Walk1ngSk3ll3t0n]

Btd5 mortar monkey: "Okay put the nuke in, slowly..." Btd6: "I'M FUCKING BA-" *Nuclear reaction*

[@Whizoji]

I wanna see the old BTD5 sprites redrawn in the BTD6 art style, having the same details and everything just more cleaned up. I think it would look very nice

[@Ronicalter]

they used models, they weren’t drawn you CAN edit the render to make it look good but that’s probably it

[@Whizoji]

@@Ronicalter I’m not talking about the models, I’m talking about the art used in the icons and upgrading.

[@Ronicalter]

@@Whizoji yeah, they used models for the art in the icons. haven't you heard of 3d rendering before?

[@Whizoji]

@@Ronicalter you’re talking about the artwork, right?

[@Ronicalter]

@@Whizoji yes, i am talking about the artwork

[@some_nerd_lol]

1:14 Yeah, the btd5 one was a lot cooler looking, it felt more like a secret society than a fan club

[@wired2u746]

For sure, dart overall has the best track record, it's a simple tower so the simple 2d flash animation looking artstyle of 5 fits it perfectly. It also seems like he is the one who the other darts make a fan club for after he reveals himself. Way cooler IMO

[@murattosun4016]

also stats bec x-5-x dart monkey is worst tier5 monkey in btd6

[@Yellow_wall73]

@@murattosun4016 would def argue that it's pretty good compared to absolute zero🥶🥶❄️❄️

[@Maxizag]

@@murattosun4016 x-5-x Dart isnt the worst..

[@zselimegmen8714]

@@murattosun4016 yes did you try 2-0-2 dart monkey in the effect of 052

[@ridiculousrandy1401]

BTD5 was all i cared about for a solid year. It was my saving grace as far as computer games were concerned. No regrets.

[@mariusz1895]

btd5 was good but 6 is much better

[@ScootOots]

True

[@arsensergeevich7007]

True

[@DarrellerraD125]

True

[@HAHDgeh]

True

[@lyzee1199]

True

[@robknight666]

So btd5 was a bit more "realistic" while btd6 was a bit more cartoony and colorfull obviously the budget for the art went up so we cant compare quality

[@wolfythedumbass8402]

Finally,a comment that makes actual sense

[@bluerious5475]

I wouldn’t really call TD 5 much more “realistic” than TD 6 honestly

[@TheHammerGuy94]

If you compare the art of Bloons monkey city and BTD5, the eyes of the monkeys in BMC appear larger. They're mostly the same style, with this being the standout feature. A lot of players enjoyed BMC, so ninja kiwi took that as a hint and ported the idea to BTD 6. Now all the monkeys have big eyes, since that design is kid friendly.

[@bluerious5475]

@@TheHammerGuy94 Also the fact it just looks better. Not in BMC though that game’s art style is a mess

[@Shape1425]

@@Kappi__ Btd6 was bit more cartoony and childish friendly. While Btd5 is way more simpler and childish but not as BTD6

[@cacie.]

Btd5 was one of those games where i thought the series had peaked, but since btd6 came out, ive looked back at it and sorta went "oh...."

[@garretthanson6424]

Right I thought about it that way too, which makes me think: is 6 btd’s final form? Or what’s next? Will all future BTD games be 6 based or different? Exciting prospect lol

[@Insertnamehere913]

@@garretthanson6424 imagine btd 7 with RTX🤯

[@hobomike6935]

3 upgrade paths, 5 (now 6 with some paragons) tiers, a bunch of different towers and heroes, it's ridiculous. they removed special agents which were way better than the crummy "powers" we got, but that's a minor setback to the rest of the cool stuff we got

[@yuyureishinoshojo]

@@Insertnamehere913 i hope btd7 will be btd6 but on the level of difficulty that btd5 shows sometimes

[@avalianathallah1030]

@@hobomike6935 gotta miss those road spike which help to survive bloons that's leak honestly.

[@twisting_badger]

Btd 5 went for a cartoonish approach, while 6 took a fancy realistic one*. And after looking at 6's designs for far too long, I must say that it's a breath of fresh air to look at 5's again. Edit: A year later and I still get replies saying "tf, realistic?" So lemme just say: I was talking shit out my ass lmfao I have no defense at all. To amend the statement entirely, 5 went for a simplistic, cartoonish look, meanwhile 6 went for a more chibi style, almost? Very similar to Wind waker. If something were to be cartoonish but realistic, it'd be Breath of the wild, or tears of the kingdom (ik, I mentioned the zelda series twice but that's the only comparison I can make) Anyways fyuck off

[@thirdhandlv4231]

They are both cartoony, BTD 6 just has way way better artwork and much more detail.

[@Cendrail0001]

Btd6 art is also more dynamic, many more monkeys are moving instead of just posing

[@CandiceGoddard]

I think it's just different art styles. The BTD5 art style was angular with matt colours and no shadow which made it look more 2D but as you said BTD6 is much more realistic in terms of the shading and angle of the drawings giving a 3D look. When BTD5 came out, the square style was popular in American cartoons. You might notice that Windows 10 had a similar angular look. Now everything is going back rounded and 3D. If the trending art style changes again, so will the look of the game.

[@lf198]

@@thirdhandlv4231it kinda takes away from the cartoonish appeal. I personally liked the pencil dot eyes for their minimalist simplicity.

[@fortnitesexman]

doesn't help that the OP chooses incredibly unfair battles, mainly by going for tier 5's but also by completely ignoring the best artworks in btd5 while being favorable to btd6 in that department (just look at the difference between the bionic boomerangs, holy shit did they butcher him in 6)

[@kidsIIIII009]

“Front Facing MOAB assassin isn’t real. He can’t hurt you!” Front Facing MOAB Assassin: 1:21

[@chunkymonkey7983]

This is actually funny, can't lie.

[@szy3993]

Bloon POV

[@rottenavocado2322]

They do be built like Bullet Bill

[@gabrielc7861]

1:18

[@R-Thuristic]

Thats what the MOAB class see I know this is a 5 month old comment

[@loganharris7801]

The better BTD 5 artwork was the tier 1 and 2 artwork. In BTD6, every tier 1 and 2 upgrade artwork (except for the glue gunner’s, for some reason) is just an edit of one another. Some of the tier 1 and 2 upgrades, like the Dart monkey’s enhanced eyesight or Super Monkey’s epic range look really neat.

[@dylansp4049]

1:03 Ok but you have to admit the bfd5 juggernaut is so adorable! I’d get that art as a plush! Just a cute little monkey on a big spiked ball.

[@liamcherry3618]

Y E S

[@ezekiyam3827]

And btd6 casually pulls up with the apex plasma master

[@shieldsxreflex]

The artwork for BTD5 expanded upon that of BTD4. It felt like a natural progression from 4 to 5 with the updated animations and better looking sprites. 6 made the jump from 2D to 3D so they eventually reworked all the sprites to better suit that environment. BTD6 is still the better game, but that doesn't take away from what BTD5 was and still is - a good game

[@Jakkilip]

Both of the games are true masterpieces. I like the BTD5's simplicity in both graphics and gameplay and the variety of games made with it. BTD6 has more challenging gameplay and made the series grow up much more. I like playing both! 🔥

[@evked-falvy-6577]

everyone loves btd5's glaive lord art, no doubt.

[@watcherofcontent806]

Definitely! I love that M.O.A.R. Glaives is based off of it.

[@wired2u746]

Me and the homeis love og glavelord

[@sagoot]

The pose in 5 is better

[@Azillia]

I prefer btd6's

[@deathrow357]

Parang on pose is more preferable. Looks like Talon from lol

[@SeszerCaesar]

Top path mortar went from being rightfully very careful to playing basketball with a nuke

[@ezekiyam3827]

Let's say he got used to it

[@TheSpearkan]

BTD6: Anything you can do, I can do better. BTD5: What about the Bloonchipper?

[@mr.wizard.s]

It was a goofy tower anyways

[@tjmonkey5795]

T Rex

[@Baykirk693]

Honestly not sad it’s gone

[@Ultranochos]

We have the mermonkey bottom path now, which while it’s not the same thing, it’s pretty damn close.

[@asryampolyip53255]

There’s even more like for example *takes a breath* monkey lab , energy beacon , premiums , special agents , special agent pros , viral frost , special houses for towers , the vengeful temple(yes Ik the VTSG exsist but temples are not true sun gods) , skins for towers, and all the exclusive tracks

[@alexalerjasoares8621]

Mortar Monkey at 1:43: i need too use dis to hold a nuclear bomb Mortar Monkey at 1:45: USE DE HAND TOO HOLD THE FCING BOMB

[@pingu4080]

You know, just your casual nuke

[@memor22]

ah yes a very fragile radioactive nuclear bomb just dunk it in the shute

[@joeyman2525]

@@memor22 BTD6 guy pulling a LeBron James

[@orein1880]

Dunk that crap in. What its a highly nuclear bomb who cares?

[@alexalerjasoares8621]

@@pingu4080 Thx for commenting in my comment AFTER YEARS OF TALKING AND TALKING IN COMMENTS Thx U special :)

[@Oscar-vs5yw]

I think btd has executed this sequel thing very well, each game in the series has much better graphics than the former, and each have more upgrades, and more complexity, but never too much, and each game feels more polished and clean

[@Mictecuh_1347]

except for BTD 1, 2 and 3 they look the same

[@kreatona4219]

I'm not the biggest fan of 4 but mostly because of it's art style, it felt way too weird compared to 1 - 3 but I did like most the new features

[@Wojtackic]

I love that they didn't completely change most of these concepts, they just took them and made them even better

[@jaxsomon3333]

Keep in mind, he did mix up some of them, like how the one with the blanket should actually be absolute zero

[@ultravisionforlife]

*uses tier 5 btd6 artwork* *uses tier 4 btd5 artwork*

[@ilovemochi5317]

Pretty there isn't tier 5 in btd5

[@ultravisionforlife]

@@ilovemochi5317 ik but whoulf they use tier 4 artwork from btd6

[@fortnitesexman]

yeah the favoritism is insane in this video it gets even more manipulative when you look closer, cause he just happens to avoid all the upgrade artwork that gives btd6 a real run for it's money (like bionic boomerang, they fucking butchered him in 6)

[@lettucebob7395]

​@@fortnitesexman Btd6 one looks better imo, what other examples do you have?

[@freshlycannedwater]

I really like the simplistic and cute designs of btd5, but I also appreciate the sleeker and cleaner art btd6 uses. That and btd6 also has a couple pretty cool looking upgrades.

[@asryampolyip53255]

BTD5 is not simplistic there's, Energy beacon, Special Missions Random Missions, Monkey Lab, Daily Quests ,Bloonchipper , Viral Frost, Special Agents, Premiums , Specialist Buildings and Ingame Update Logs

[@Equimage_]

I wish there was an option to switch how the top path village would deal damage, i kinda miss the energy beams of the btd5 village

[@bananaeclipse3324]

True, but then it couldn’t hit purple. And art wise, in game that wouldn’t look very good, it would be very weird to implement as a design. I personally enjoy the 5/x/x village more as it is balanced and doesn’t just obliterate everything in its path.

[@hobomike6935]

the BTD5 village attack was vastly superior to the BTD6 one, lol. it was basically a sustained atomic lightning laser that stopped almost anything ESPECIALLY if you had "bigger beacons"

[@bonkdotioimealol]

It was stupidly strong if you had the bigger beacons upgrade

[@zap296]

guess it was too op

[@avalianathallah1030]

Ballistic is strong enough to beat BAD round 3 in logs with homeland support.

[@its_nerf_or_nothin_1799]

it’s the memories we had with BTD5 and how iconic it was. The design of the monkeys got better in the next game because that’s what happens when you make a new game they change things to be more appealing and new. I’m not saying btd 6 is bad because I love btd 6 but I like the feel and art of btd5. But still they put a lot of things that is a lot better than btd5 I just think people (and me) think that it’s better because we are pretty nostalgia blinded

[@3takoyakis]

nah some BTD6 monkey are terrible like ninja T5 mid phoenix wizard but mostly are great

[@3clisp315]

@@3takoyakis the ninja tier 5s are not mid dawg

[@asryampolyip53255]

no its just a good game

[@Cheeseischeese_o]

It's about the Nostalgia, it's richer as the games go backward

[@Rayan-West]

0:45 I have to honestly say, the Btd 5 art may not be as good, but it's power is far from dissapointing. Edit: Gee, I shouldin't deserve this many likes. Edit 2: Nor that heart

[@biggali]

BMC on the other hand...

[@ericphillips8268]

@@biggali Lol ikr!

[@icewalker1185]

@@biggali man...

[@Nittin.]

On one side, you have a ice monkey who is mad at who made him stuck of ice and you have a snow god who is about to ascend to make more snow

[@Rayan-West]

@@Nittin. yeah, this thing can solo rounds 63 and 76 with little to no help (it had no freeze cap in Btd 5), slows down Moabs and Bfbs and is dirt cheap on top of all that, even on impoppible (it costs less than ~6 k dude).

[@XL1GT]

Most of the towers shown in the video have gotten better such as supply drop which in btd5 just added an ability and that's it but in btd6 get's an ability, ability to pop leads and the second tier upgrade of that same path get's upgraded; there is the viral frost upgrade which got removed and gotten replaced by icicles/icicle impale which honestly is better; druid stealed one upgrade path of the wizard; and ground zero from btd5 is just an merged ace on 4-4-0 without the missiles and bombs if there was tier 5s in btd5 probabaly tsar bomba is an 5-5-0 ace and towers like cripple moab That got buffed and moved to tier 5 Also there is BADS which separeted the functions by splitting in 2 paths being Rocket storm path and BADS path which changes to an kinda of shotgun tower and The ability changed to the better by not firing only 100 rockets that do very low damage do bloons

[@hyphe1337]

Fun fact: If you think BTD 5 is way better You have a Severe case of nostalgia

[@israelmateo2050]

The artstyle is just personal taste But you can't just compare the gameplay

[@hyphe1337]

@@israelmateo2050 you are very correct

[@raynhylance3546]

I can, however, compare the fact that BTD6 dosen't have the bloonchipper

[@RealStickYT_forReal]

r.o.d (ray of doom) 0:00 icicle/icicle impale 0:02 btd5 maim moab cripple moab 0:03 0:07 btd5 spectre and flying fortress 0:11 btd5 bloon sabotage ,grand sabotageur, moab demolist and ascended shadow 0:14 middle or bottom tier 4 sub 0:17 btd5 tech terrror and anti bloon 0:18 btd5 summon phoenix or dragon breath, wizard lord phoenix 0:22 btd5 bloon dissolver and da bloon solver 0:25 btd5 moar glaive, glaive lord and glaive dominus 0:28 btd5 bloonjitsu and grandmaster ninja 0:31 banana farm tier 4 middle and monke-nomics/imf loan 0:33 btd5 archmage and the tier 5 top druid 0:36 perma charge 0:40 pop and awe 0:44 absolute zero 0:46 top tier 5 bom shooter 0:48 bloon 5 supply drop and bloon 6 elite sniper and elite defender 0:51 primary training and primary expertise 0:55 blade maelstorm and super maelstorm 0:59 tier 4 middle path on btd6 (cuz i play btd6 and idk what is it) and glue storm 1:01 call to arm and homeland defense 1:03 spike O pult, juggernaut, ultra juggernaut and apex plasma master or something 1:06 hook ability upgrade and pirate lord 1:10 spiked mine and super explosive mine 1:13 monke fan club and super fanclub 1:17 moab assasin and moab destroyer (i think?) 1:21 operation dart storm, tsar bomba and sky shreddr 1:24 carrier flagship (bloon 5), carrier flagship (bloon 6) and navarch of the seas 1:28 banana factory and banana central 1:30 spike storm and carpet of spike 1:32 rocket hydrapod and m.a.d (moab assured destroyer) 1:36 bloontonium reactor and energizer 1:39 temple (bloon 5) and bloon 6 temple, tsg and vtsg 1:43 the big one and the biggest one 1:45 ring of fire and inferno ring

[@asryampolyip53255]

BTD5 cripple moab

[@asryampolyip53255]

BTD5 sabotage supply lines

[@asryampolyip53255]

aircraft carrier *BTD5*

[@asryampolyip53255]

super monkey fanclub 5 plasma fanculb 6

[@asryampolyip53255]

BTD5 bloon liquifier and5 solver 6

[@bluetechno6056]

I think one of my favourite parts is that such a large percentage of the game is actually 3D modeled, and all of the 3D models resemble the drawings A LOT. The large use of cartoony outlines is one of the best parts of the models. So much effort put into making the outline effects just to make the models resemble the drawings a bit more. And also the ANIMATION!!! Really smooth and well done!! I'm not even talking about the bosses!!

[@yuyureishinoshojo]

im sorry but i disagree about the animations, watching them normal speed just looks awful to me and they only look semi decent in full auto... :/ i love both games but i do like btd5 animation more

[@dizzydeezie]

0:51 that one brings back memories- me and my friend would always spam them for "extra damage"

[@Woolsupgamers5]

The damage doesn't stack? *ohno*

[@totallynotditto1573]

They were better than farms 100+ tho

[@vibe-rent3062]

*Wizard basically gets split into 2 towers* “Look at how they massacred my boy”

[@Uppecat]

Ngl i kinda like the simplicity of bt5’s artstyle

[@windchimes2883]

Now that I think about it, sitting on massive ball of spikes doesn't seem like the best idea...

[@Bockanator]

Even though the game isn't even that old it's so nostalgic to me

[@willw5868]

I mean 5 was released 11 years ago now, it’s existed for more than half my lifetime personally

[@Bockanator]

@@willw5868 really it's 11 years old?! I thought it was way younger

[@olal9904]

@@Bockanator bro, FNAF was made 8 years ago. I thought it was like 4 years ago. Time flies with 2010 games

[@pingu4080]

@@olal9904 true this

[@KristapsK1]

One of the very few tower upgrades that can be debatable for this is the laser cannon upgrade for dartling. In btd 5, it had over 10 pierce, and with crosspathing, could pop leads. In btd 6, I don't even think it has 5 pierce, and with either crosspathing, it can't pop leads, or purples

[@godlyvex5543]

What? It's not a competition of power, it's about art.

[@bananaeclipse3324]

This was an art comparison, but either way, laser cannon and RoD were broken op and btd6 has them wayyy more balanced.

[@certifiedloverboy993]

while laser cannon is a little underwhelming in this game, plasma accelerator has almost infinite pierce, can pop leads, does 12 dps to moabs without buffs, and is arguably cooler/more fun to use

[@Libellule711]

The laser cannon has about five hundred pierce

[@KristapsK1]

@@Libellule711 i'm going to assume that you mean plasma accelerator. in btd 5, laser cannon had around 12-15 pierce, and in btd 6, it has less pierce

[@kaiser9598]

it amazes me how beautiful the BTD6 artwork is from time to time I’ll never forget BTD5 though :’) it gave me so many memories with my dad

[@Oscar-vs5yw]

I like btd 6, I think it was very well executed, like when it first released I wasn't sure how good 3 paths and 1 tier 5 was gonna be, but it was executed perfectly imo, however I do miss the simple 2d textures of btd 5 and btd battles 1, it makes placement much easier imo

[@pyrek9154]

Btd 5 is nostagic as fok, I rly loved that game when I was younger

[@Eknoma]

Yes, because when someone says they prefer an old version or something, they are DEFINITELY talking about the graphics

[@bananaeclipse3324]

For btd, the balancing got better, better cross paths, and more. This is the only possible debatable comparison.

[@narrator-hd7jm]

@@bananaeclipse3324 we like the fact that there is more of a challenge in btd5

[@bananaeclipse3324]

@@narrator-hd7jm but…but….challenge editor & browser. Also btd6 isn’t even done updating. It still has more bosses to add and more features to come.

[@TrulyMorningstar]

The new super monkey fan club design is horrendous.

[@reecenolan9292]

I think that's kinda the point. In BTD6, they're SUPPOSED to look like an absolute dork, and absolute BUFFOON, because that's kinda what they are- a fanboy who's idolizing super monkey and probably going to comic con every chance they can. ...but yeah the design makes me want to tear my eyeballs out.

[@BlackGame01]

Bro i remember banana farms in btd5 being so good like it was basically infinite money and i was literally getting all the tower in a map maxed out.

[@dumbvillage9253]

Both are equally great, oh and also triple dart monkey in btd5 has very great drip

[@NatTanYZ]

Can confirm, BTD5 summon phoenix is haunting my dreams

[@microwavedsun7345]

The btd6 ones look like cosplay's that you would find in a convention . Btd5 looks like it could actually be real-ish like in a war/ magic way

[@snapslingpeavine1371]

I will always have nostalgic memories of btd5 and even the older games. But *hot damn,* btd6 is the best.

[@whbh2243]

I feel people prefer 5 because of the nostalgia and/or the retro kind of feel to the art and gameplay, however I personally like btd5 but yeah I do agree that btd6 is quite a bit better

[@aaaaaaaaiuuuurandombtd6you558]

Who else remembers when the boat pull could hook in smaller Bloons other than Moab class balloons

[@deathpie24]

Still does the largest bloon on screen Like a rainbow or ceramic Or a Red

[@totallynotditto1573]

Assassin could do the same thing

[@JonathonPlaysGames]

the main thing i miss from btd5 is the unique challenges it had, rather than modifiers there were conditions you had to deal with like losing the oldest towers you placed or to protect the village in the center

[@oreapxr4547]

" I don't now where I am, what I'm doing here, or how I got here, all I know is that I must pop blon."-Monke

[@legitgopnik8431]

Can't believe the B-2 Spirit isn't a bomber plane in BTD6, absolutely ridiculous

[@vladimirtiffany]

I don't think we need 2 nuclear planes

[@ArtDumbster]

Gotta love how the mortar went from carefully placing the nuke to just yeeting it in

[@PinkLemonade-1]

I like BTD5 and its spinoff's art style and music more than BTD6 and its spinoffs, but BTD6 takes it in pretty much everywhere else.

[@arthorization]

I mean comparing Tier 5s with BTD5’s tier 4s isn’t always fair, but can sometimes work out. And comparing BTD5 with Paragons is definitely not fair

[@arthorization]

@Artsie sketch It is, but at least be fair about comparing them.

[@pingu4080]

@@arthorization again, which is WHY btd6 is better

[@arthorization]

@Artsie sketch I think you and I are arguing about different things.

[@arthorization]

I’m pretty certain you misunderstood if you poured your heart out in the sentence, “it’s not our fault” I never once argued that. All I wanted is that Tier 4s (BTD5) and Tier 4s (BTD6) to be compared. Not Tier 5 vs Tier 4. Unless if they were the same upgrade. e.g. Ray of Doom being a Tier 4 Upgrade in BTD5 and Tier 5 in BTD6. But somehow, you argued against me about something I already AGREED with. Reread my sentence if you have trouble.

[@pingu4080]

@@arthorization Keep it chill man, we can all agree that 6 was better, that's all I was going for.

[@ImJustAKwimpOfficial]

Btd5 and btd6 are both insanely great games, personally I prefer btd6 but comparing the 2 really does no good for both of them

[@anglers3719]

I loved the lightning village in BTD5. Sad that they removed it.

[@coolskeleton1953]

just spam lightning druids, same concept ;)

[@liamcherry3618]

Well the 5-x-x village is really similar, I think they work the exact same except the 5-x-x village deals more damage and looks different, other than that the chain mechanic is similar or the same

[@asryampolyip53255]

energy beacon

[@ElectroGun163]

'you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about'

[@dragonslayer7724]

Energy Beacon will always be better than Primary Expertise (in terms of offensive capabilities)

[@void6772]

I agree the weapon on energy beacon is better and its much better

[@totallynotditto1573]

Energy beacon was that kind of thing your like what?

[@dragonslayer7724]

@@totallynotditto1573 It shoots lightning. What more is there to say?

[@totallynotditto1573]

@@dragonslayer7724 yea but going from 2x more cash to a lightning of doom

[@parkersavage6224]

i haven’t tried btd5, but i did play battles one when i was younger, and it was fun, but I like where btd6 went. when you get heros, third paths, paragons, and more monkey knowledge, it lets you stick with the game longer, because your unlocking more than a few upgrades. I always found upgrades to be unlocked quickly in btd6, which is amazing for the people who want to be try some powerful upgrades in sandbox, but also the people who want to mix and match with different towers, and just strategize in a game about strategy. i am not saying 5 is bad, but i will prob get it and see what the hype is about but DAMN, is 6 a upgrade. oh yeah and i agree so far battles one is better than battles 2. battles 2 is a mess rn

[@b.a.dgaming7246]

Me to

[@YuJi_ItadoriX2K]

@@b.a.dgaming7246 Me to

[@shalvei_]

Honestly I enjoy Battles 2 as it stands currently. Now, I'm aware there are a lot of issues with the game, but in general it's a lot cleaner, 3 towers + hero is better than 3 towers + random bonus tower, COBRA is gone, eco serves a purpose so farms aren't literally required for lategame, surprisingly *less* P2W from my own experience, rushes are more strategic and varied and the environment overall is less toxic. I also hate to be the graphics guy but Battles1/BTD5 artstyle really doesn't hold up for me. I'm not encouraging you to change your way of thinking in any shape or form, in fact I think you're very reasonable here, it's just my two cents.

[@redstonemacanic2434]

I think 5 is pretty dated (unless you’re looking at 5HD, then it’s fine) where as 6 is much more refined. 5 is a much better game for casual players who don’t want to be overwhelmed and is a great introduction to the series where as 6 has much more content and complexity that makes it more fun if you’re experienced. In my opinion, 5HD and 6 are two sides of the same coin.

[@ItsJustArcher]

Great thing about BTD6 is it's still pretty friendly and very playable to new and casual players, even those who haven't played a BTD game yet. Introduced many of my friends to BTD6 and they all enjoyed it a lot.

[@avalianathallah1030]

@@ItsJustArcher BTD has been an easy to learn game. You could understand at least several towers in a week. Unless you've experience in previous BTD game, you don't need to relearn the next one.

[@ItsJustArcher]

@@avalianathallah1030 Exactly my point. That's why I don't necessarily think BTD5 is the best game to be introduced in the series. BTD6 does the job well, and arguably better even.

[@asryampolyip53255]

Bloons TD5 will never be dated-Ninja Kiwi

[@Notllamalord]

You people simply don’t understand the joys of btd 5

[@Dylan_Guy]

I still like the simplicity of 5 better, I wish there was BTD 5 art style with BTD 6 balancing and upgrade paths, I wish they still had bloon chipper, and I liked specialty buildings+lab more than knowledge I think Bloons monkey city was the best though; everything looked polished and it actually had some story to it, but the maps get repetitive quick

[@captainsnake8515]

It’s a shame that BMC wasn’t very successful outside of the core bloons community, bc imo it’s the most fun btd spinoff and I’d love to play it with btd6 mechanics. But sadly ninja kiwi doesn’t seem interested in making a sequel.

[@slosh7072]

@@captainsnake8515 Oh man, what I wouldn't give for a a BMC with 3D models... Bloonarius will never know what hit him.

[@xrefed]

Bloon chipper too op

[@unaverageavocado159]

@@xrefed my only idea is that they make it an ability only tower where it only works when you activate an ability

[@barrelotl5748]

Oof I think I stole your comment sort of

[@talassophobia9681]

We don't miss btd5, we miss having fun. Bloonchipper solos

[@tjmonkey5795]

Bloons monkey City dartling guner beter

[@AirLight1646]

I mean it’s not really fair to complete the two art styles when one is in 3D and another is in 2D. They’re both good in their own ways.

[@InASunnyDaze]

All the images shown in this slideshow are of the BTD6 tower splash arts, which are all hand-drawn in 2D.

[@godlyvex5543]

The art in the video is literally 2d what are you talking about

[@hyrrrr]

The arts are 2D tho lol

[@shadowstrider7224]

Tbf the budget for the art also went up in btd6

[@realtbhandrew]

Bro... how do I word this...

[@SamHammie]

Imo the whole three upgrade paths thing was dumb since some of the powers of the original upgrades had their functionalities split into different paths and it made some of the monkeys have the exact same powers but in far worse ways.

[@fishurprise]

i prefer btd5 because of the 4-2 glue gunner and the 2-4 ice tower combo. melting ceramics never felt so satisfying. also a tower stack bug u can use with helis literally 5 sun gods ontop of each other is better than the temple

[@pianodna-james3147]

Jump from btd 4 to 5 art was amazing, 5 to 6 was equally amazing, i love both art because i play btd battles which has a similar style to btd 5, but i wish i can play btd 6 too, but i’m just broke lmao

[@bruh_moment2833]

What about BTD battles 2

[@josejose23248]

@@bruh_moment2833 its bored, its just like use dartling all the games, and if u try something different you get rushed by purple bloons 😴

[@bruh_moment2833]

@@josejose23248 yeah I hate purple rush

[@Noentiendo-qb3ve]

I think btd5 artwork is good in its own right. It has tons of charm. Though, I don’t think is fair to compare both, btd6’s art is more elaborate.

[@ectoOLDACC]

I definitely think that whilst the mechanics of btd6 are better (apart from the 3d maps fuck them) the art style of btd5 is infinitely better since it stays true to the original style of bloons/btd

[@piershanson1784]

I was a fan of btd5’s broken money farming. You could stall a lead bloom for years and get millions per round with 0-4 snipers

[@Nishayam.]

1:37 Btd 5 Bloontonium Reactor is cool

[@JoelTheParrot]

undeniable charm with BTD5 though.

[@michaellatner975]

I prefer the ice tower art from btd5, just looks more badass, while the one from 6 looks like he knows how to dress to deal with the cold and can adapt to it, the btd5 one looks like he froze in place and has become one with the cold, also i love how he looks like he might become pure ice.

[@robertlupa8273]

*I **_AM_** THE WINTER INCARNATE, FEEL MY COLD WRATH*

[@Positive11929]

Eh I prefer btd6 ice since it makes the ice look like a god instead of a blue dude with a hoodie, not really badass but to each their own.

[@floppingflops6127]

1:43 BTD5 : carefully putting bomb in BTD6 : *YEET*

[@Ruby-eq1qg]

I remember not liking btd6 as much as btd5 when it had barely released (I even deleted btd6) but honestly btd6 is better than btd5 in like every regard and btd5 was a great game

[@rebirthphoenix5646]

I will say all of them look better in BTD6 except for Summon Phoenix (still miffed as to why they changed the design so much I liked the old one better) and maybe Glave Lord and Super Monkey Fan Club but I’m fine with either or. I will say too I like how the Bloontonium Reactor looked like in both games just wish the sub was larger it looks really stubby in game.

[@atroposV]

Btd5 summon Phoenix was THE WORST design in the game.

[@KingGibie]

Agreed

[@Stephanie-mv9iy]

​@@atroposVits not the worst just bc it makes you uncomfortable

[@atroposV]

@@Stephanie-mv9iy the necropost is craaazy dude this comment was 2 years old

[@Stephanie-mv9iy]

@@atroposV k... Still here

[@MiraakUnofficial]

0:57 I actually prefer the old one.

[@Scape_The_Goat]

The first BTD game I played as a kid was BTD4 which was the newest one at the time. Probably the most fun I had with a tower defense game by far. Then like a year later BTD5 came out and blew it out if the water felt like a complete evolution of what BTD4 was. Peak game I played for years on my phone. Then 6 came out and after a rough first year and a half where it was basically an early access game it's in my opinion become basically to 5 what 5 was to 4. If you want a change of scenery and challenge 5 is definitely worth replaying but 6 just has so much depth than 5 which already had an insane amount of depth

[@i_saidmeow2469]

Let's appreciate how simple was BTD5 and why is it so good

[@isaaccarpenter6398]

I've played both 6 and 5, and while 6 is great, 5 just has that nostalgic bit to it that will always make me say 5 is better

[@AS42100]

Same.

[@christianmorales7432]

No

[@flipaclipenjoyer2470]

0:26 why dose the image go hard

[@roguedecksonly5014]

Why can't you spell "does"

[@LiptonLordGaming]

the real definition of "im glad i grew up with this, but thats goddam better"

[@NightCat28]

I’m probably the only person in the world to prefer BMC art over BTD5 art lol

[@ret6260]

Your not

[@TheHammerGuy94]

The art of BMC is mostly the same, but the monkeys' eyes were bigger and had pupils. Since a lot of people enjoyed BMC, NK took that hint and made the monkeys in BTD6 have big eyes.

[@hectormontes7056]

I honestly prefer the more simple designs, it’s kind of hard to tell what’s going on in the newer ones. If the simpler designs were done in the new artstyle it would be great

[@makinyoumad9498]

0:02 TD6 ice monkey looks like snorunt from Pokemon

[@IceMaster20108]

You mean TD5?

[@XAEzl]

Td5

[@doctortuxito7532]

5

[@makinyoumad9498]

@@IceMaster20108 I guess

[@asryampolyip53255]

0:00 rod 0:03 viral frost and icicle impale0:05 cripple moab 0:09 Spectre and flying fort sabotage 0:13 supply lines and master bomber , grand saboteur and acended shadow 0:15 first strike cappabilaty 0:18 tech terror and the anti bloon 0:21 summon pheonix and wizard lord pheonix 0:24 bloon liquifer and solver 0:28 glaive lord 5 and glaive lord 6 and dominus 0:30 bloonjitsu and grandmaster 0:32 B.I.A and monkey nomics no more