BTE Ep3- Crucible (CPM) closing its doors? What that mean for the industry? With Ross from DCF

[@dongkhamet1351]

Aye, Jacob, I remember you saying that we are in the Golden Age of blades and although I saw just what you meant, I couldn't see how things could conceivably take a dive any time soon. It looked more like an up and up from the consumer perspective, especially given the forward leaps in quality on the Chinese production side - arguably not great for the US production side; but they were using CPM too and making some very good knives at rock bottom prices. Now within a couple weeks I hear about tariffs raising prices on import knives - not a biggie for me personally but certainly a sea change for the industry if true. Then this calamity with Crucible. Economically a far smaller issue by orders of magnitude, yet this one feels like a kick below the belt. Oof. Might just be a fairly short lived age after all. Glad my blade obsession started peaking when it did. Fashionably late, I walked in as the party was in full swing and if I am true to form, will hang out with the stragglers drinking ourselves under the table and awaiting the sunrise.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@dongkhamet1351 you got in at the perfect time!!! It'll be so wild to see where we go from here!!!

[@guymcmullan9297]

The blades are beautiful

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Yeah they are! Ross is an artist!

[@billclancy4913]

As a hobby maker I make a lot of S35vn, and Magnacut blades.

[@emanuelroth7960]

If I were them, I would cut down on the number of knife steels they make. This would probably save manufacturing costs since it would simplify the process. I would focus only on 3v and magnacut (I'm not actually a fan of magnacut but everyone else seems to love it).

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

See, I'm not sure what other uses all these steels have. Part of me thinks that most of what we get for steel is the leftovers from larger orders which are sent to a company like NSM who rolls the "scraps" into sheets. I could of course be way off but you are right, it does seem like simplifying production might streamline things.

[@emanuelroth7960]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I have no doubt you're right about that. Btw, off topic, more and more people are waking up to Montana Knife Co and their dubious networks (and terrible quality). kzbin.inforJTGNta1WOo?si=NS6Ivrd_23ED9Jun

[@ROE1300]

👍 Beautiful knives. While I like Magnacut and have 2 knives in this steel (Buck 110 & Buck 113) I have not been a fan of the other Crucible “super steels”. In fact, I prefer carbon steel knife blades. It is sad when a company closes, especially for their 155-160 employees, but knifemaking and the use of knives will continue.

[@drunknnirish]

The industry will support the alloys that are in demand. Carpenter for example already makes many of the same stuff under a different name. Not sure what will happen with something like Magnacut because the knife industry is such a small part of the steel industry, but if the demand is there and the rights are sold someone will melt it.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@drunknnirish while carpenter does make a lot of the same stuff, and is ramping up production of this stuff as we speak I'm not sure what it will mean for prices and availability. I guess we will see! Demand dictates production! So we will have to see if demand for something like magnacut would remain even if prices were to dramatically increase.

[@Bman-xy2vh]

Just because they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean they're closing up. A lot of companies go through a restructuring in their lifetime. It will get rid of high priced contracts etc. I hope that's the case for crucible also. US steel just got bought out by Nippon japan. That's also a possibility that crucible will be bought out too. I guess we'll see. Hope you and your family have a blessed Christmas Jacob.

[@Bman-xy2vh]

Ps. It looks like you're drinking anti-freeze.😵

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@Bman-xy2vh my concern is that the restructuring could very well mean focusing on more profitable markets. I didn't know about US Steel being bought out! I hope if Crucible gets bought out it's by a US company who loves the knife industry! I'm drinking orange flavored ale8one, a kentucky exclusive! Merry Christmas!

[@christianlishen1280]

I’m not sure what’s going to happen, be that other companies fill the gap or if we see a major drop in the high end steel availability or if we just see a huge price increase on powder steels to make them profitable for companies to make. I’m interested in what big companies do because I can’t see such a large customer base liking a perceived drop in quality by going to a “lesser” steel due to availability. Whatever happens as a smaller maker it’s definitely scary. Thanks for the awesome video!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@christianlishen1280 we will see what kind of vacuum this makes- vacuums always present opportunity! Thanks man!

[@InGratitudeIam]

While I want to see CPM thrive and their employees be secure in their employment, there's always licensing and selling of assets, including formulas and processes that'll keep CPM goodness alive in one form or another should the actual operation of CPM not be possible.

[@karldanger44199]

What are your thoughts on the drone thing?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@karldanger44199 I'm not too uh... attached. False flag, psyop setup, training exercise- No matter what it has a long game that won't play in our favor.

[@karldanger44199]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors False flag like that Luigi guy all over the news. I think they did that to try and make it a crime for anyone to speak out about Healthcare industry online.. It seems they try to bait people into expressing what they can label "extermist" views and even use bots to do it so it seems "normal". Problem, Reaction, Solution so the illusion of a democracy still exists..

[@billclancy4913]

I've used quite a bit of RWL-34 as well.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@billclancy4913 i hear about that steel a lot but have never used it!

[@S.Vallieres]

Does anybody know what the ovalish black thing just behind Jacob and Ross is?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I believe it's a sewing machine for leather

[@S.Vallieres]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Thank you!

[@brianadventures9622]

This sucks to hear.... So if the Ursus Cub was on my buy list, are you saying i should get one ASAP?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@brianadventures9622 i would have said that before this happened haha

[@jurgenkrebbekx4329]

I’m always wondering if people notice any difference in real world use between steels but it’s indeed sad if Crucible falls down, it will be a loss for the knife industry for sure

[@Unburdened_Beauty]

Another one bites the dust........Biden's theme song!!!!!

[@panganaranga]

While he is auctions the border steel for basically free right now.

[@TollHammer]

The DBK boys are having a wake.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@TollHammer what do you mean?

[@rickwhitson2804]

What's up guys James sent me

[@TollHammer]

Likewise, subbed for the contest and ended up finding a good channel.

[@rickwhitson2804]

@TollHammer absolutely 💯

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@rickwhitson2804 glad to have yall! And I'm glad for James' friendship!

[@jaythedonrizz]

is this dude related to Jordan b Peterson? sounds like him

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@jaythedonrizz nope, but i get that a lot

[@Dennisrader-ff9gv]

🤔 I never put this together, Jordan B. Peterson Jacob B. Peterson🤔 😂😂😂

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@Dennisrader-ff9gv it's a weird coincidence

[@TheArtistGR]

First one here

[@michaelshannon5324]

Com 3v my favorite is not that magnacut also

[@drunknnirish]

3V is a easy to make alloy that dates back to the 70s from Vasco, and could be melted by any other shop as long as the demand is there.

[@michaelshannon5324]

That’s terrible