bts paved the way, why is it so hard to accept it? [Reaction]

[@marar8045]

The best thing about Seo Taiji’s comments and giving them Come Back Home to cover was that it was done before BTS became massive.

[@JackInTheBox0294]

It isnt cover. Its remake song. Also Seo Taiji gave them authors rights for that song

[@Jurnalist_]

He really saw successors before the massive success true sensi energy.

[@NanciBK]

Yes, in fact he held a comeback concert and BTS performed 8 songs with him. It was a real public passing of the torch. A literal coronation of the new kings.

[@wmk0945]

i like what you said at the end. bts never actually said they paved the way, they are always very humble. whenever they do a livestream after a concert they're always honest and saying they think they could've done betther (even though for us they were amazing). there is always that desire to work harder and be better. they get excited about meeting celebreties they grew up admiring even though they are at the same level of popularity if not more. they are truly very humble and down to earth

[@DaughterOfFiji]

i luv how boracity can get a little passive aggressive 😂😂

[@Jurnalist_]

You have to pay attention for it. Her voice comes off so sweetly

[@goeienacht]

11:11, you seem shocked 😂 when ARMY tells you Korean artists face racism/xenophobia in the US, it’s not exaggeration or a light comment, it’s real. Even with PSY, I was a kid while black peers/family called every East Asian they saw “look, Gangnam style!” while not knowing shit about Korean culture. Or Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc… we need to stop downplaying anti-Asian hate, it’s the reason why it escalated to what it became in the past couple of years. Disgusting :( as far as psy being a culture shock in his behavior in videos, look at all of the artists on MTV around that time that we didn’t bat an eye at because they spoke English. They did even crazier things in their videos, and off camera. Racism/xenophobia definitely had to do with PSY’s response, outside of the memefication(?). But I digress…

[@JackInTheBox0294]

Right

[@reiang9637]

Ya there’s actual hate, definite prejudices and racism. Many have said some messed up shit about them, make fun of them, act inappropriately and dumb like that peace sign ordeal in the red carpet. Its ok when western artists did that but these “Korean boys” cannot.

[@lobaetoile8440]

Originally, "BTS paved the way" was used by ARMYs as an hyperbolic expression as a form of praise or endearment within the fandom. It was like saying "slay, king!" or "you're the best!" or "my number one!" to your favorite artist. We used to write this comment under BTS tweets or when we were celebrating an achievement or a particularly impressive performance. When BTS popularity started to "explode" exponentially in the west, those Kpop fans who had been envious or dismissive towards BTS, they started getting triggered by this saying (when they invade ARMYs space online) and discrediting BTS or fighting with ARMYs. They took this phrase way more literally than intended, not with the light-headed humorous and cheerful tone that ARMYs used. Ironically, it was only later on, when western tv hosts and media gave BTS the label of "the biggest boy band in the world" and when BTS socioeconomic impact started being studied and reported on in more mainstream media, when the phrase became more "serious". And then ARMYs felt forced to use arguments to defend this posture, when others would demand us to stop "lying" or stop "being arrogant and ungrateful". Although there is certainly true on this statement, personally, I think it's a shame we can't praise our favorite group without people taking it as a personal attack or offense. In a way, "BTS paved the way" belongs to the same bag than "President Namjoon", "Golden Maknae", "Worldwide Handsome", etc. It's simply us expressing our love and admiration for Bangtan.

[@ralphy383]

Seo taiji naming bts as his successors after 25 years should be considered one of the most iconic moments in korean music history but since people are jealous they downplay it. Like the significance of that moment can't be just brushed off like that. He is quite literally credited as the godfather of idol music. Dude pioneered and made rapping in korean mainstream in korea.

[@BAMMIE7613]

I HAV EVEN HEARD KPOPPIES SAY SEO TAJI IS NOT THE ONE WHO STARTED KPOP SO I JUST GIVE UP LIKE THESE KPOPPIES ARE UNBELIEVABLE😆🤣🤣

[@thegeekoutgirl]

Whenever someone questions BTS' influence or importance, I will always talk about how when I was a kid, it was impossible for me to find and buy kpop albums. I had to either find a bootleg copy at a hard to find korean supermarket or on a shady website. And I lived through all the hallyu waves since the 90s hahaha. But once BTS started becoming big, I found BTS at a freakin' Target. And then more kpop groups and artists becoming available at Target shortly afterwards hahaha.

[@gailjkbias0T7]

Yes Suga said thank u to Psy for opening the door ❤ the song That That was his way of showing him his appreciating that opportunity

[@Jurnalist_]

I didn’t even know other countries made music for years how are you looking for kpop as a child? You were on the wave early.

[@explore.express.love.3483]

@@Jurnalist_ many early kpop fans found kpop from TV. I have heard so many early fans say they happened to have few Asian channels by chance in their tv package and came across some singers (eg. Boa etc.) But then some others found about it if they luckily had a kpop concert or kcon in their area. A few exceptions are countries like Japan. I would say what bts did globally Boa did in Japan. Not just due to popularity since i don't equate paving the way to just that. Like bts brought in investors and increased the market value massively, (alongside creating real sociopolitical influence with their music) and really got the media to a level where they just couldn't ignore the impact even if they wished to, Boa did with Japan. So in Japan, kpop is extremely popular inspite the already existing Japanese music industry. Part a reason why almost every kpop group since 2000s release Japanese singles or Japanese versions is because of the way boa opened up.

[@gailjkbias0T7]

@@Jurnalist_ Asia pop channel 👍🏻

[@thegeekoutgirl]

@@Jurnalist_ because of my parents and the area we live. We’re Asian. So we listened to American music, sure, but we also listened to Korean music, Vietnamese music, Chinese music, and etc.

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

This is currently the biggest discussion between armys and fans of other k-pop groups. And I don't know why the fight, the answer is obvious.

[@amberpearce710]

I have been thinking this..this are my thoughts and ideas why it is so hard for them to understand or not see the obvious (besides the things mentioned in the video. Which is funny now because anytime they talk about this they always point out at least one of these points from the video): 1. Jealously 2. They don’t understand what we mean by paved the way or will say 1&2 paved the way for BTS…which I can see both sides to this… 3. Just like how the Big3 control the media and everything people don’t also realize their impact. Especially since BP are big too but get more “coverage” because of them being apart of the big3 (also say that BP paved their own way) 4. I heard this so and so group before BTS

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

@@amberpearce710 Exactly, are you subscribed to the Sebastine channel? yeah, there's a video he made apologizing to blinks why they were mad he said BTS paved the way. And, Sebastine being a multi-fandom channel, obviously it would cause confusion. And he got hate from those blinks, just for saying facts reacting to this same BoraCity video. If you go to this video of him "I'm sorry blinks" or something like that, you're going to see a tremendous amount of confusion in the comments. Including about three comments from me.

[@carolinesch.]

@@erika-g4mer_yoongi207 I just saw all that a couple days ago

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

@@carolinesch. I was indignant with so many people without intelligence, they didn't even know what "pave the way" was

[@carolinesch.]

@@erika-g4mer_yoongi207 Honestly I was disapoined that he backtracked so much just because of fan response. I remember watching another reaction channel who said they will stay away from bp for a while because of the fans.

[@geekyreader34]

It’s not about liking it’s about accepting that BTS has made it easier for others to get the opportunity to also make it in the western market too

[@pambarab5506]

I was already into kpop when PSY's Gangnam Style came out, but no one else that I knew had any idea that he was Korean. All they knew was that he was Asian and had a funny, catchy song that went viral. In 2016-2017 when BTS was starting to grow in the US, baby fans finally figured out where PSY came from, but they were already classifying BTS as "different" from PSY.

[@Yoonji9212]

I'm not from US and I thought he's American lol I didn't pay attention to lyrics and my english wasn't that great either at that time so I just thought he's from the US.

[@carolinesch.]

What I think is interesting is that armys are not often kpop fans in general. Its more commen for Army to like certain Songs and not multiple groups. I have some kpop songs on my playlist but I would not consider myself a fan of the group, most of the times Not even a casual listener I just found a couple of songs I vibe with.

[@amberpearce710]

I agree their are some groups that I like a few of their songs but yeah…

[@carolinesch.]

@@amberpearce710 also who has the time? Because of the amount of content and fast paced releases its really a time comitment.

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

@@carolinesch. ikr😂

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

Yup

[@JackInTheBox0294]

The same to me

[@pslinky]

24:18 you gotta remember there are different beauty standards everywhere. People in Italy may like a certain type of man, as a whole, while in China the standard would be totally different. In places like the US, Australia, England, big burly guys sometimes with beards are hot. In parts of Asia, slim, "feminine" (by western standards) are hot. As for fashion, south Korea is super trendy and fashionable. It was true when I lived there in the early 90s when 1st gen kop was a baby. The fashion trends there when I 1st arrived, I remember thinking the outfits were cute but I didn't like the way they'd mix say, stripes and plaid. Now, 30 years later, I love it all. And personally, I love androgyny. I've always thought it was dumb and closed minded to assign genders to activities & items. Big burly dude with a beard wants to wear a dress and heavy makeup? I bet he'd look great. Woman wants to wear a tux? Good on ya. As long as the person is happy who cares right? 💜🙂 Thx for watching all of these. I love hearing insights from intelligent reactor's who know music or are in the industry. 💜 Eta sunbaenim means seniors

[@Jurnalist_]

Bless for this comment. Gems. 🫡💜

[@NanciBK]

BTS has also spoken out repeatedly about not believing items have gender. So clothing, jewelry, makeup, tattoos, whatever, the consider them all gender neutral and anyone should have access to whatever they like. They also designed their BT21 characters to be deliberately gender neutral.

[@pslinky]

@@NanciBK that's one of the things I love about them 🙂💜

[@mikrokosmosmuster7615]

Tiger JK is considered one of the "founding fathers" of the k hiphop community in SK. HE IS OG K HIPHOP. He is part of a group called MFBTY w Yoon Mi-rae n Bizzy. One of favorite songs ever is a collab between him & RM called Timeless.

[@ZariDV]

Timeless is such a great track. RM's rapping style flows so seemlessly with old school rappers. He never sounds out of place or dissonant with them.

[@izzatys7037]

It’s a big deal that he recognised RM back then and now even called himself his “father” in an endearing way.

[@ZariDV]

@@izzatys7037 I've never heard of Tiger calling himself his "father". That's so endearing and sweet. It's kind of nice that it's often the older musicians and idols who keep trying to take BTS under their wing and adopting them. Like the affection Seo Taiji has for them is so sweet.

[@thegeekoutgirl]

41:00 Hahaha tbh, I do think this is one of the things that bts differs from the rest of kpop. They have the best team chemistry. They are the most humble and kindest, even behind the scenes and cameras. There's countless of staff stories about how kind they are and I just recently read a story from a janitor that said BTS were the only ones who helped and thanked them for cleaning up. BTS also does well to remember where they are from and note the people who helped them and influenced them. They don't hide those things like other groups do, nor do they try to uphold a certain arrogance that some people believe idols or celebrities should have. BTS' relatability is another one of their good points.

[@joonie3lover761]

BTS did paved the way though. They are just way too humble but their achievements and records speaks for itself.💜

[@nothingnothing6036]

The narrator speak FACTS. She appreciate all the Kpop groups before BTS for introducing KPOP but those all Kpop groups never paved for other artists like BTS did. Because the Big 3 (SM, YG, JYP) companies never let others artists to shine and love to sabotage other artists especially artists from small companies. They are also the reason why BTS take longer time to get popular. BTS has made the path become more easier for others to enter. And now the Big 3 is busy trying to create the 'next BTS' and throwing away their artist natural talent instead of letting their artist to create music in their own way or style. All Kpop artists is unique and I don't want them to be 'next someone'. They can be big and successful in their own way instead of being in someone's shadow. Since I'm becoming Kpop fan in 2011, I love the diversity of music and style in Kpop industry.

[@jbabie04]

Many years ago, the “world tour” only consisted of Asian countries. BTS really made world tour as tours around the world. For instance, SHINee’s world tour was Asia and I hated it 😂 eventually they came to the US (I missed it😢)

[@eileencritchley4630]

Also BTS are the first to sell out Stadium venue's rather that small area's and theatre's. Note a Stadium is classified as over 40,000 seats. Most Stadiums are hold far more. BTS sell out Stadiums with far larger capacity Stadiums. I know they are the only Kpop group to sell out Wembley Stadium twice (they had to have a second day). They sold out Germany's Zizi bowl 2 days again, sold out the Rose Bowl, USAetc etc. Does anyone know of any Kpop act that has managed to fill at least a 40,000 capacity Stadium?

[@shyiya8583]

At the end of the day, BTS has nothing to prove. They are who they are and their accomplishments speak for themselves. You are one of my new favorites from the pool of new BTS reactors. I like that you are pretty open to learning more about them and is comfortable enough to say things that might not be a popular opinion. You can disagree without being disagreeable. Keep it up.

[@shyiya8583]

Oh and hopefully, you can react to this one too, its how each members were selected and the growth on their discography. Touching on each era that they have showing each time they reinvent themselves. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGGuoKGBe9imgdCB

[@Jurnalist_]

Can you link me again or provide the title. The video comes up unavailable.

[@shyiya8583]

@@Jurnalist_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzSn358qNh-pK8

[@shyiya8583]

@@Jurnalist_ if that link does not work, just search for the Most Beautiful life goes on BTS story 2022 update. That is the current one. I can’t wait to watch your reaction. Thank you.

[@sharonnelson3713]

Sunbaenim is a respectful address to someone who is older than you who is in the same profession.

[@pennybleta9721]

Not necessarily in the same profession. It's someone who is older than you in general. And then there are also terms for each gender as well. Like hyung for older males and unnie for older females. But those are more casual terms than sunbaenims. Sunbaenims literally is similar to seniors in English but English people or people from other countries like mine, in the west don't use as a term in our everyday language because our languages are not that formal and don't have these kind of respect forms in them.

[@taptaphello123]

actually sunbaenim doesn't directly refer to someone's age but someone's experience in the same environment (for example: Jungkook debuted in 2013 and is the same age as Bangchan, a member from 4th gen. Bangchan in a public setting refers to him as "Jungkook sunbaenim")

[@marirezende8478]

It's not about age. It's about time of work before or after you. And not limited to a profession.

[@JackInTheBox0294]

@@taptaphello123 yes

[@alipotter0613]

You should react to COME BACK HOME feat. BTS from Seo Taeji's 25yr anniversary concert. You will love it. As for androgeny, this is part of Kpop. It is funny when people talk about BTS and their 'make up' but they are pretty tame compared to some other acts! 💜

[@monimuppet6132]

I've watched a fair amount of your reactions now and I just want to say; the way you describe things has me on the floor at times. 🤣🤣

[@Jurnalist_]

😂😂😂 It’s just what comes to mind

[@RistiKayen]

There are a few ways that BTS is already paving the way for western artists in some respects. I don’t think it’s come up in any of the videos you’ve watched that when Big Hit went public and became part of Hybe, BTS were given shares in the company which was seen as unprecedented in both Kpop and western music. Musically there are western artists that have either mentioned them directly or have clearly taken inspiration from their success (Taylor Swift’s method of releasing physicals for her last couple projects have been very inspired by KPop tactics which I would say wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for BTS. I don’t think you’ve checked out the Rolling stone artist on artist interview between Pharrell and RM - I think you would be very interested to watch that (you can find the full interview on KZbin, the printed version cuts some portions).

[@kaikai4452]

Henestly I'm glad that BTS are not bragadocious self entitled men. They are the humblest kings I've ever seen. Not to say they don't flex but they do in ways that's still respectful. If I could I want to do the flexing for them. BTS just being Bangtan Sonyeondan humble and let their work and the results speak for itself. You will never hear it from them to say they paved the way instead would give credit to those before them at times or their inspiration. So I hope other artists can swallow those humble pill even how bitter it taste that BTS paved the way. And stop creating a make believe narratives that this group or themselves paved the way.

[@boraland969]

THEY DID PAVED THE WAY THO😌💜

[@AngeliinaAngel]

BTS is gonna be alright in the next 10 20 years they made a huge legacy for themselves and are legacy artists but I wonder how the kpop industry will be. It will still be there of course the show goes on but will it be even bigger or just there ? Gonna be interesting to see. 🤔

[@Jurnalist_]

I think it will be even bigger. But how that size can affect outside of Korea is where I’m most focused. If the music stays plastic it will be massive with no influence. If it becomes real. O boy. Korea might be doing a madness on then music industry for then next 50+ years.

[@iamme1566]

@@Jurnalist_ kpop will stagnate. They have no new ideas. And no integrity. I have no respect for people who steal ideas and work belonging to other people. I also refuse to support them. They have spent the past 6 years trying to decipher the ’BTS secret’ while downplaying their achievements. And the previous 3 years before that were spent ridiculing and creating obstacles for BTS. I think all OG ARMY will remember the times when the one who shall not be named tried to scupper BTS.

[@iamme1566]

@@Jurnalist_ kpop will stagnate. They have no new ideas. And no integrity. I have no respect for people who steal ideas and work belonging to other people. I also refuse to support them. They have spent the past 6 years trying to decipher the ’BTS secret’ while downplaying their achievements. And the previous 3 years before that were spent ridiculing and creating obstacles for BTS. I think all OG ARMY will remember the times when the one who shall not be named tried to scupper BTS.

[@irishanime08]

Facts 💯 and IMO : yes kpop had been known, especially around their neighboring countries. I remember how we all loved SuJu and Shinee here in the Phils. And even before that Boa. Then, PSY had a instant hit, Gangnam which had his "song" go viral in the US. But that was it. The people was only interested in the song but they never found the need to know about the artist, like who was PSY? Sure there were some stories but NEVER TO THE LEVEL AND DEPTH PEOPLE HAD FOR BTS. So PSY, opened the door. Peeked in and slowly retreated, but here comes BTS, kicking that damn Door. The 7 Kings of Nobody, backed by loyal armies. 💜 And just a reminder.. Remember when BTS was ever first nominated for BBMA Top Social, how others kept hating, saying its just a paper award, that their idols do not need those.. All I can say, karma is a Btch huh, who's aiming for who now? 😏😏😏😏 Even other kpop idols and artist admits how BTS paved the way 😅and BTS themselves , humble as they are, always thank their sunbeinims (senior idols) for inspiring them... so stop hating and start supporting ur artist... just saying 😏

[@sjaejoneswriter]

Poor PSY, I really wish people would take some time to get into his discography and career because he does deserve a second listen. I remember watching music shows as a kid with my grandmother and PSY just STOOD OUT, especially amongst all the impeccably groomed (and much younger) idols. He had strange dance moves, his music was comedic, and his lyrics were deemed controversial. Like BTS, he often spoke truth to power about social problems, and he self-produced his first three albums. He's won a lot of awards for songwriting as well. PSY's career is also really interesting; he studied music at Berklee and has his own label now.

[@JK_myman97]

But compare to bts ,bts gain their fan because they are talented and army make it work but Psy just more like viral stuff,I still remember listen to Gangnam style because so many people talk about it

[@sjaejoneswriter]

@@JK_myman97 I know, they're not similar artists; I'm just saying that he's worth a second listen because he doesn't ONLY make viral stuff, haha.

[@JK_myman97]

@@sjaejoneswriter don't worry I love Psy too,I'm just saying my thoughts

[@explore.express.love.3483]

I agree to this completely. Infact I doubt most people even realise that gagnam style is an imitation to mock many sociopolitical events. His music isn't my ever favourite but he surely is a true artist who carved out his own style (which has a vibe that anyone can bang their head to atleast occassionally) and he still slays at his age. And I wouldn't mind going to one of his super super hype water concerts cause that's a whole mood and experience of it's own kind. The west of course needed a reason to write him off. I do think his music may not hit personal to the millions like bts does due to their diversity and ever relatable lyrics but he is far from just a funny show and surely a deep thinker that is capable of making you think too if you dive deep!

[@nuhkyah23]

Agreed with your point about Psy to a point, every now and then there is something the public blows up because they find it funny, they have fun with it for a time and then that's it, Gangnam style was one. The song didn't make me interested in his other music and I didn't know he was Korean. And older people just regarded it as oh that silly song young people are obsessed with.

[@HE___R]

If u wanna check RM's rap, I recommend checking these songs. He collaborated with some American artists too. 1.Champion Remix by Fall Out Boy and RM (2018) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aH-WpaanYpV5fqM 2.Change by RM and Wale (2017) kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6OkqqOoj8mibdE 3. P.D.D by Rap Monster aka. RM. Warren G as PD (2015)(turn on CC for english subs) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHumaIp9p9eVsLc 4. Rush by RM and Krizz Kaliko (from his first mixtape in 2015) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWqWhGlseKiZfaM 5. Buckubucku by MFBTY (Tiger JK and Yoon Mirae's group) ft. RM - 2015 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJTNiX5-p7iKpsU 6. Rap Monster kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGLcpo1mo96YotU Also please react to his first mixtape called "RM" (2015). 1. Do You (turn on CC for english sub) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH-TkGWgrrSasMk Lyrics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXmcfp9mmsqIY5o 2. Throw Away (Live Performance) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqemZHmEa7eCmbM Lyrics = kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaWndZuLr7eGfNk 3. Monster (Live Performance) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGabc4CaoZWYsMk Lyrics = kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZy1lpiVZpaomdU 4. Joke kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ3RcmeilMtprtk 5. Awakening kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3mWoGyJjbGXa8U 6. I believe kzbin.info/www/bejne/oajPmYGHaMqqZsk 7. Life kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2qvoql8f8qojJY 8.God Rap 9. Drift 10. Voice Btw, most of the song beats in "RM" are sampled from other artist's beats. It was released for free in soundcloud. It's not on spotify. It charted on billboard world albums way back 2015 at #12 and was featured on Spin's Top 50 hiphop albums along with other artists like kendrick lamar, etc. Also, checkout "MONO", his second mixtape (2018). Another masterpiece. Currently holds the most #1s in the history of Itunes worldwide. (123*) And ofcourse, I recommend reacting to "INDIGO" his latest album (2022). Here is a live performance of his songs from this album: RM Live in Seoul Live kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIusmWaQgceIrJo These are just some of his songs btw

[@ZariDV]

The PSY paved the way point was always so interesting to me. I suppose I could see why Koreans in particular had that point of view as people who had never seen one of their countrymen blowing up in such a huge way compared to others in the industry. For me, and many people I've spoken with, Gangnam Style was a viral pop bop that got popular then died out and we all sort of moved on without thinking anything more about it or PSY. Many people had no idea that he was Korean, that his genre was called kpop, or that he'd even made songs before or after Gangnam Style. So many people I've talked to considered PSY to be a one-hit wonder because they had no idea how popular and beloved he is in Korea. So it's hard to have someone pave the way when people never grew curious enough to look any deeper into him, his discography, his country, his genre, or anything. You can't make things easier for those who came before you when the general audience treats one of your songs as a fad and ignores you for the most part after that. To me paving the way requires a level of public or industry wide engagement and buy-in. It's upsetting in retrospect because PSY didn't deserve to be discarded the way he was in the West. I loved Gangnam Style when I was in high school because it was fun but it was an entire decade later (after discovering BTS) when I found out what the song was actually about, that it was kpop and that he had been in the game a long ass time with huge popularity. BTS in comparison has created so much content (as musicians, vloggers/KZbinrs, game show participants, etc) that people discover them in a bunch of different ways that cause once-casual fans to "go down the rabbithole". You have people digging into Korean culture and trying Korean food, movies, tv shows, skincare, makeup, fashion, music and travelling there. They are affecting tourism and the economy by how many people go to visit. Many fans get so tired of only seeing the watered down poetry that we get from subtitles that lack the full impact of the Korean language that people start learning a whole new language. There's an ARMY-run account that offers free Korean lessons to ARMY and their friends/family and they just posted about how they got over 940 applications from potential students hoping to get in this month alone. People only focus on the musical influence but there's a much bigger phenomeon brewing where a much larger reach is happening, spurred by interest in BTS. They have consumer engagement and buy-in. Lots of idol groups get songs that catch on temporarily in the global space but new-comers aren't exploring them too deeply after they hear the 4th or 5th plastic pop track and get bored. If people are going to go through the effort to look into your lyrics, often times they want the effort to be worth it. I could listen to "dance dance, party party, I'm in love with blah blah" tracks in English otherwise. English speakers are lazy. If you're going to make us work for it, it needs to feel worth it.

[@Mori-Chan613]

I'm into Kdrama before BTS but not into Kpop--I don't know I just can't relate with most Kpop songs. They sound good and catchy but that just it. Their lyrics don't bear much weight and substance so I did not get invested in it. BTS is... for me beyond a phenomenon! It's like having a full course on self-development, self-acceptance, self-awareness, etc.. Watching them makes me want to become a better person. I love the positive influence they brought into my life. Although I regret not knowing them sooner because of the Kpop stigma being too shallow (for me) but I'm glad I gave them a chance. 😊 Btw, what is that ARMY account giving free hangeul lessons? I want to learn ..jebal! 🙏💜

[@Yoonji9212]

@@Mori-Chan613 The only group I love to listen and have really good lyrics is The Rose. They have songs that made me cry my eyes out and songs that warm my heart and felt like warm blanked on a cold night. And Woosung has song that is my personal anthem "Lazy" 😂

[@Mori-Chan613]

​@@Yoonji9212 I heard of The Rose group becuase SUGA/ Agust D's song "Snooze" feat. Woosung. I might check on them too. BTS has a lot of songs as well that will make you cry like a baby. Their songs are thought-provoking and most of the time draws me to self-reflect. I found them when I needed healing for my soul. BTS will always have a special place in my heart.

[@vikzytoria]

That's where I LOVE Big Hit and Bang PD. They have always refused to pay out advantages. They refuse to pay radio. They refuse to throw money at ANYONE. And they make that clear. They will drop people so quick proud. If a broadcasting station abuses them, they refuse to go back on their show which highly hurts the shows because BTS brings the major views and profits through ARMY. And as you know, ARMY is fierce about protecting BTS and will influence such things as the Grammy views. We know how to use that influence to our advantage. I love your opinions. Sunbaenim is a word for a senior group or person. Shinwa before the Sunbaenim is a group. I love her channel because she is stern, but she spits facts. She doesn't sugar coat it. Anyway. Great reaction. Hope I made some sense. OH! That picture you loved is Seonghwa from Ateez. They are amazing.

[@tiffanykim2773]

I fell for the music of BTS first then got introduced to their personalities. The more I got into their personalities AND music they more I fell in love with them overall.

[@ruthlessrays9761]

BTS paved the way. They cemented that sht.

[@spainana]

It is hard to get track of how many groups are in KPOP ...since I am ARMY only so I don't follow other groups, in K-pop fans of more than one group are called Multis, but it is more an international side of the fandoms ...I think.

[@lisebet1]

The cultural differences are really important and interesting. We tend to view BTS through a western entertainment industry lens but understanding the differences in the culture and industry in which they move is vital. Few people take the time to do it. Judging them through our lens is not just unfair, I think it's also part of the reason people misunderstand how they have done this. Learning more about it has been a fascinating journey for me (far from done).

[@tiffanykim2773]

At the end my girlie said grow the f up, give respect where respect is due and move on 😂

[@thegeekoutgirl]

I mentioned this a bit before, but I think "Kpop History in 20 min" by DKDKTV might be an interesting watch for you. It gives a very quick overview on kpop. I say quick because obviously it's hard to go through every single aspect of kpop history in just 20 minutes hahaha. But they touch upon some of the major points.

[@Danielle42381]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[@Jurnalist_]

I got it saved to watch later now

[@megnicoleebilane]

in Korea,, Last Name/Surname, First Name Q: Sunbanims ( Senior/s) as Korea is in strict on hierarchy 35:52,,,guy standing is the main choreographer Son Sung-Deuk then the guy in the chair is the producer Pdogg,, they are family Stay safe, positive and healthy Love and support from the Philippines ^_^

[@Jurnalist_]

💜

[@creativefefe4652]

Every time I hear the " put your hand down this is freakin America" my heart hurts. I get pissed and sad.

[@Jurnalist_]

Real dick head energy. It’s so hateful it doesn’t make sense. Like we don’t raise our hands in America. Like it’s just dripping with ignorance.

[@Lydia-rb8so]

"Put your hand down, it's freaking America." The first time I watched that clip, I let an angry tear fall. I couldn't, man.

[@courtneygilbert5744]

one of bts inspiration is tiger jk if one hear from him, he has a dingo verse you could watch and his wife Yoonmirea/Tasha who also has one she's half black, so she has a song called black happiness.

[@mariev347]

26:06 Esse cover é um dos meus preferidos. Ele significa tanta coisa, eu pessoalmente admiro muito o trabalho de Seo Tai Ji, e ver ele reconhecer os meninos dessa forma, sendo o que ele é no KPOP, é foda pra cacete. O mesmo com o Chan do Stray kids, ele é um líder incrível no grupo dele, e ver ele reconhecer o Nam numa das lives dele como maior influência de líder traz muito orgulho. Porque é como a boracity disse, as grandes agências fingem que eles não existem, os fãs de KPOP negam tudo o que BTS fez pra chegar até aqui. Ao menos os artistas de KPOP são justos (uma boa parte pelo menos).

[@diatima]

Let me tell you how things used to be, before BTS for someone who enjoyed Korean music and media: it was niche, very niche. There were no official KZbin channels for any of the companies/artists, and no social media pages on sites that were used in Western countries. People used to go on Naver, despite not knowing Korean, just to follow their favourite artists. Fans used to spread music videos, clips, pics on KZbin and Facebook, and initially these used to be blocked by the companies, until they realised that they might have a market over here, and they opted to sit back and watch instead. More and more people started enjoying this content and at some point there was a strong and clear demand for albums and concerts to be exported. When I say strong and clear, I mean petitions, worldwide flash mobs (you can still find clips online lol) and international fans making accounts on Korean sites to vote for their fav. artists. I remember going to a flash mob in london for some fun, and the Korean news arrived there to interview people! I remember going to see Shinee at Abbey Road (they were there to record something, not to perform), and bein surrounded by 200+ other fans on the street. It felt so weird because I didn't know anyone who listened to this music before. SM, YG and JYP finally started attempting concerts (extremely expensive ones) on this side of the world, initially bringing over multiple artists from their companies to perform on the same stage, likely to test the waters. From what I remember, the Korean gov. was partly funding these, to support the Hallyu wave. It also became easier to buy albums from Korea as many (but not any cheaper!). At some point Big bang won top social artist award, and then Psy happened. There was a slow and consistent growth in the export of Korean media (not just music) so there was a path present ... What BTS did, in my opinion, is make the whole industry take a huge leap on that path, also opening new branches of opportunities for other artists to experiment with. They did this by taking many risks, while the big companies were often very cautious and too focused on making money quickly, rather than nurturing their audience for more long term gains. By the way, Japanese visual kei, Jpop and Jdramas were also popular around that time, but the country has very strict copyright and media export laws and they never opened up to the oversees audience, that simply died out. Sorry for the long comment, I love arts and find it really interesting to see how it's being experienced all over the world. BTS is like a renaissance in a way, I'm curious about the future...

[@diatima]

This is the flash mob I went to back then: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2fYqniLm6ZqrZI

[@diatima]

@@anitasimon8698 Absolutely! So much has changed since BTS, and they were different from the very beginning. I've seen people say that BigBang did it first because they write and produce some of their music and have a lot of agency over their work and social media etc., but I don't think that's comparable because they only got to that point later in their careers, when they were famous enough to be indispensable for their company. BTS had values and a work ethic that separated them from the rest, and a big difference was also that they invested a lot of effort and time in their fans, in a way that other groups/companies did not

[@diatima]

@@cloverthv sorry, my bad! I just checked and big bang won the an MTV European music award (top ww act) in 2011, not top social artist! Visual kei was an entry point to kpop for many people... Aaaah, fun times 🤣 I still listen to The Gazette, Myavi and D'espairsray from back then!

[@Jurnalist_]

Great comment and history lesson b thank you.

[@Jurnalist_]

That looks like a very fun day

[@Boraheartsss]

11:23 I will never ever EVER get over you wanting them to smack ppl LMFAOOOOO 20:35 You need to listen to Hip Hop Phile btw. Each rapper in BTS rapline have a verse where they explain how and why they fell in love with Hip Hop and the chorus is song by the vocal line. I recommed you listen to the lyric video FIRST then watch the stage performance. Please please please!!! I know its a BTS song and you wanted to wait, but it is mainly done by the rapline so maybe we can bump that one up? just an idea.... 28:44 "I dont know none if these ppl" dont worry bruv you about to xD I didnt mention all of them unfortunately bc we'd be here all day lmao but I made sure to get you the most popular ones. I'm working on a more indepth list just for myself because I have an obsession with list making. Being an Literature major brings this out of me lol 32:16 sunbaenim means "senior" in your career path or field. It can be toward someone who's done a thing longer than you and are more experienced, or a term of respect for someone who you feel are more talented than you are at that thing. 34:30 I would agree, but since we are talking about kpop music and artists, they cant say they dont like it when they are constantly copying or trying to make the same music as BTS. So I dont think they can use that excuse. It's definitely jealous. If it was a different type of genre then yeah I'd agree here. But they all trying to be like BTS so they obviously like the music xD 38:17 Im sorry my dawg but you are completely off here. It's not "culture" its literally capitalism. These are TV shows that are meant to cover and show the biggest hits in KPOP. BTS is factually the biggest hit in kpop, so covering them on your tv shows isn't selling out. It's telling the TRUTH in your media. It's similar to when a talented or famous black person is misrepresented in the media or completely left out because they are black. Its not the same as paying a journalist to tell a lie. It's purposely excluding the truth because they arent one of your "buddies". That is a prime example of capitalism. BTS are the biggest Korean act in the world, but they are RARELY if ever shown in Korea. You wont see them on TV, on billboards, on advertisements. Even HYUNDAI WHO SPONSORS THEM dont mention them in Korean stores. They are so egregiously disregarded in Korea because they have no power there. The companies that do only do so because of money and channels that have been sewn decades ago, and BTS arent willing to pay for respect like these other artists. As youve seen in other videos, when they are disrespected or disregarded they will simply stop attending and do their own thing. So they've never attempted to buy their way, I'm sure if they did they would succeed in the first place. So I do think you have it backwards here... The funny thing about this argument (it was and is still popular on twitter. hashtags started this argument) is BTS never said out of their mouth that they've paved the way. Not in any facet or iteration of the term. They do not claim to be hallmarks and trend setters. They do not claim to be the goto for Kpop. They always credit other artists: BIGBANG, Seo Teji, Epik High, Nas, JCole, multiple other black artists that inspire them. This whole argument and conversation came from the fandom lmao. So even though, in retrospect, BTS did pave the way, it's not something I say. That's not their goal. Their goal is simply to make music theyre proud of and help people, leave a positive impression on the world. They dont care about being the "ones who paved the way" even though they are :)

[@hollypalm440]

The androgynous theme started in the early 1970's with David Bowie and his Ziggy Stardust. Also Alice Cooper to some extent. It seems to never go away, but evolves over the decades in different genres. Sometimes mainstream, sometimes indie or underground..

[@marirezende8478]

32:17 Sunbae (선배) means a senior in your field of work, school etc. As you know, the Korean language is heavily influenced by hierarchy levels. So if you start working in something or studying something and there already is someone that has been working there or studying it longer than you, that person is considered to have more experience, even if they are younger, and you're required to refer to them as "seniors" (sunbae, sunbae-nim is just added formality). For example: BTS debuted in 2013, Twice debuted in 2015. So BTS was working as idols for 2 years before Twice debuted, therefore they are more experienced, Twice's sunbaes. Twice, on the other hand, are BTS' hoobaes (juniors). Just to be more clear: BlackPink debuted in 2016. One of their members, Jisoo, is like 30 or almost 30. Jungkook is 25. Jisoo is *still* Jungkook's hoobae, Jungkook is *still* Jisoo's sunbae, even if she's older, because he debuted in 2013 with BTS, 3 years before BlackPink.

[@wmk0945]

honestly i think the majority of the groups don't actually want to be bts, they might see them as someone to aspire to be like but they all work so hard and train so much that they don't have the space to think that. a lot of them are young and might be guillable and proned by people's words and their management to hate them for the success even though i've never seen any kind of hostility from other groups directly (my experience, don't know if there have been instances). i think the big brain behind all of this trying to bring down bts are the conglomerates behind the music market inn south korea. the ones who are looking for the next bts are the companies managing these artists. it's honestly so fascinating to me how bts at this point could be put in the same conversation with cultural changing acts like michael jackson, of course each their own time and space and yet they are never credited for it. i've noticed that whenever their success is being talked about, it's always referred to how they made a breakthrough in the US but never about their cultural impact. you never hear news outlets or even music critics speak about their music when talking about their success. in korea they praise the fact they are famous and get the streams outside of the country, in the US they 'praise' their huge following but no one ever stops to discuss their cultural impact, their life changing music and lyrics. the same way michael jackson revulotionised music and is considered the king of pop, bts's lyricism and story telling has inspired so many (myself included) in a way that has never been done before and the fandom is so big that you can't categorize it as something exclusive and for few people. this is what i think bothers a lot of armys. we see bts' impact and we know its big and its not just about the numbers and all the steroids that we get fed these days as you said (which is an unfortunate reality of the music industry). this is also why you'll find a lot of videos about their story, about their achievements made by fans because a lot of these achievements are not taken into consideration by the media and the general public. there's a saying between armys that 'you don't find bts, bts finds you' and there is so much power behind that statement. there's a very beautiful documentary done by a fellow army where they interviewed other armys about their bts experience and i think it holds a lot of power so if maybe later on, when you've listened to more of their music and understood a little more about them and us, you can check it out. here's the link for part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaaUpZ9jZclrodk

[@diatima]

I loved that documentary! 💜

[@9mmstella]

Idol groups don’t want to be called BTS because they’re their own perspective groups. I would say otherwise for the company though, SM created SuperM which was essentially supposed to be the “next BTS” (and they purposefully paid journalists to make articles about it, talking about this legendary ‘avengers of kpop group’ while not actually doing so great overall). These company have profits in mind (and will use HUGE mediaplay) and they will try to break whatever record BTS has and specifically that. That is why they’re in BTS’ shadows: it’s because they aren’t unique and they’re just using the formula BTS used and treating the path BTS paved as an instant path to success. Groups need to have originality as Boracity said. BTS are an anomaly in the industry that’s one of the reasons why they got popular and were loved.

[@JK_myman97]

But some of them did wish they're bts

[@taptaphello123]

you are correct... a lot of groups don't want to be BTS but they want to have the same level of success they do.

[@thegeekoutgirl]

7:40 I do agree that PSY was a big deal in Korean music, but from where I am, the general public only saw him as a funny little asian man meme lol. And people in my area used him to make racist remarks towards most of my community. To most of the general public here, he was a one hit wonder even though he continued making some songs that I did actually like. No one knew the new songs though and tbh no one even knew he was Korean. Most people thought he was Chinese or Japanese. I know he's highly respected in South Korea though. And he seems like a very nice and respectable guy.

[@mamejoe2043]

I thought he was Chinese all my life just figured he is Korean

[@juliamars6573]

Hi Jurnalist! I've just listened to your reaction for "Set me free" . It was song I was addicted to when it was published. It was my number one song in a whole year summary on spotify lol. I even wrote a song-response to it. But!, my number one song by Suga is "First Love". It's his solo on "Wings" album where they all had brilliant solos. I will not spoil it for you. Just try it. It cut me deep.This song made me instant Army. I highly recommend it. (Also, I have a brown piano in my room.) PS. You literally know nothing abouy BYS till you watch some live performances.

[@Jurnalist_]

Can we hear the response song? Live performances coming up.

[@juliamars6573]

@@Jurnalist_ I was not finished and I am not pro. So no way :)

[@squishycoveswena]

I actually saw the Wonder Girls live when they were an opening act for the Jonas Brothers back when those guys were still Disney Stars. I have a photo with them and everything 😅😅😅

[@Jurnalist_]

Day one energy. You have been on the kpop or Asian artist wave early

[@squishycoveswena]

@Jurnalist my journey with kpop has been interesting to say the least. I was a kid when i saw these girls and i knew nothing but they were all very pretty and i was shy (and a about a decade early to a massive self realization 😂) but got a pic and their autographs. I only listen to BTS now tho. Other groups dont hook me or my attention the same way.

[@Jurnalist_]

@@squishycoveswena are we sharing the realization or it’s too personal?

[@jeanettasheehy3018]

thank you~

[@svvemuri]

41:40 100% agree with what you said, but I think Kpop communities, Idols, companies and fandoms alike care about things like this because Kpop in general is analyzed to such a microscopic level: from physical albums, streams, youtube views, twitter trends, to something as silly as most instagram followers, most replayed part in a video, most mentions by other artists. These things are reported on constantly, companies publish articles about them, fandoms fight about them.All of these are used as bragging rights. In such a system, it is a direct slap on the face for any active group to outright say "BTS paved the way". Very few groups throw caution to the wind and focus on the music. It is slowly, very slowly changing I think/ hope.

[@nuhkyah23]

My last comment, when you said "I just don't like a nigga" Joe Budden said those exact words on his program after their Grammy performance. He said he doesn't like them he doesn't want to see them and he's sick of hearing about them and he doesn't have a reason he just hates them. And ohhhhh boy he got some real hate for it. Your comment just reminded me of it.

[@Jurnalist_]

I can see the correlation. However being a Joe Stan admittedly. I know if he listened to the music earnestly he couldn’t deny them.

[@Ana-id6uk]

@@Jurnalist_ He did turn around later and rather asked "why don't we get (names two bts songs) music here? (Instead of the English pop songs)". So I guess he likes something. But he mentioned two of the most mellow songs like xD Still a turn-around, I acknowledge, but I doubt he went to check how Boy with luv fits in the Jung theory of self, which is the song he mentioned, and he missed out on all the socio-political ones 🥲 One really can't "get" bts without a deep dive

[@nuhkyah23]

@@Ana-id6uk oh fa real? Was this on the same segment or a different day?

[@Ana-id6uk]

@@nuhkyah23 Different day, but nooo one talked about it in the media. Just that he got in trouble when he initially said it. Tsk for the lack of follow-up, took me ages to find the episode (don't remember which it was, but I'm sure you'll find it)

[@nuhkyah23]

@@Ana-id6uk well that's not surprising, it wouldn't have made for a hotter topic than the initial drama. I didn't really have an issue with him being annoyed by hearing and seeing them everywhere, it's just the particular words that he used. But I'll look for the follow up video and check it out.

[@Juju0LM]

18:11 Videos of dance practices have already shown the boys training to the sound of Walle several times.

[@Jurnalist_]

They know the vibes

[@mariepettersson6422]

Sweden is a small country but we do good music thats popular all over the world, so its not just about how big your country is

[@Jurnalist_]

Very true

[@Jurnalist_]

Who are good Swedish artist?

[@mariepettersson6422]

@@Jurnalist_ just few of them Abba AVICI,Roxette, swedish house Maria, eagle eye cherry,max Martin Agnes,Miriam Bryant, Zara Larsson, Meja Ace of Bace,Robin,the cardigans,Björn Skiss,Molly sanden,.molly hammar,Europe, of course we have a lot more some to Us but gave up beacuse of the sick treatment,diet e.t.c and did really well in sweden and Europa. I listen to all kinds of music and really dont care where its from as long as I like it, really enjoy listening to your wiev to different artist

[@lobaetoile8440]

@@mariepettersson6422 Björk is Icelandic, not Swedish.

[@loredell]

11:30 and that's some things you can hear... imagine the lot you cannot. They also got photobombed in a photoshoot being done in the street saying to them they were a failure and they won't succeed... Sure, they weren't 16, 17, but also a 25 year-old can suffer seeing how people hate on them just because they are Korean. Asian. I think it was Hobi who asked someone what he said and he replied "Thank you for worrying about us". Classy.

[@giovannaborahae4510]

let's give it up for all the people who work or have worked with BTS with sincerely, give a round of applause to these people, love for all these people!!💜💜😚😚👏👏💐💐

[@deanncoates8456]

I'm gonna be completely honest with you...and by no means disrespect to Psy at all...way back then I too thought he was a One Hit Wonder AND I thought he was the "Weird Al Yanchovich" of KPop. 53 y.o. ARMY here and I attempted to check out KPop via Psys Gangham Style by checking out a few other songs he had and thought..."uh, yea...no...not for me."

[@Jurnalist_]

Never disrespect. honest discourse. 💜

[@ЧУПАКАБРА-ф7м]

the best reaction.

[@carolinesch.]

26:15 cant wait for you to get to a few moments in the rise of bangtan in the later episodes 👀

[@ljaafar3618]

Don't worry...if the group with so many members its won't last long

[@nuhkyah23]

Some of the performance outfits in kpop are what I have heard other reactors refer to as "feminine" and by your reaction to that group when you paused you may share the same view. I don't think that they are specifically going for androgyny though, it doesn't seem to be that way in the wider cultural sphere.

[@eileencritchley4630]

I know what Pys was doing it's a bar trick I've seen many times. It's where a glasses of beer (larger) is set up in a row of beers and a shot of Whisky is dropped into each one in a domino effect. It's a classic bar trick.

[@ILmylife108]

BTS paved the way for kpop groups, but no other groups have been able to achieve global fame anyway near to theirs. That is not the fault of BTS. They created a way, but so far they are the only ones who were able to travel that road to super stardom.💜

[@loredell]

21:00 Drunken Tiger is the husband of Yoon Mirae XD (remember Black Happiness woman?). He's Korean hip hop godfather. I strongly recommend you listen to some of his work. Solo or in his trio (MFBTY with Yoon Mirae and Bizzy): 8:45 Heaven, The Cure, BuckuBucku (ft RM), Timeless (ft RM again), recent Love Peace and POV too.

[@ebereokolo2662]

32:12 Idk if someone has answered you yet and I'm not feeling like scrolling thru all the comments rn, but I think it means senior or something like that. Hold up lemme goggle it. Edit: So I wasn't too far off. 선배님 (seonbaenim) is a Korean word that refers to a far more experienced person within the same school, company, or group. It's a combination of the word 선배 (seonbae) which means senior, and 님(nim), which is Mr. or Sir in English.

[@loredell]

34:00 The issue is not liking them or recognizing they are big. Paving the way for their fellow Korean artists doesn't have to do with any of that. It means that now, new groups say "I want to achieve BB HOT100, 200, Grammys" ONLY because BTS has done it. They broke the wall between dreams and reality. Even then in earlier years would joke "hahaha, yeah, we can get a grammy, sure" because they themselves didn't believe it was possible, they just kept working hard and accept the growth as it came and the awards associated. Whereas the industry right now teaches their artists "you have to do this and that to get HOT100 entry and you HAVE TO". They mess with the kids minds, making them focus on bigger goals instead of just being #1 in their country, getting some significant awards (rookie of the year, or song of the year)... Nope, they aim at what BTS got in 10 years of blood, sweat and tears. That's what BTS have done for them. That is paving the way. As she says at the end and you also: paving the way is not the biggest deal, nor does it mean you are the best ever. May be small groups much better than BTS (I doubt it but I don't know everything) at composing, singing, dancing... but still, if they are able to aim for something they never in their lives thought possible before... then it's thanks to BTS.

[@Lapunzel7]

Sunbae is general term simply for someone with more seniority in same school or industry. For for example, if you and I graduated from same school, and I graduated before you, I would be your school sunbae. If we work at same job but I have there there longer than you, i have the seniority, so i would be your Sunbae

[@HAzana27]

호비카무헤밧🤗😇💜

[@tiffanykim2773]

32:41 fun fact this groups CEO literally tacked their names onto BTS's coat tails when BTS started gaining traction in the western markets calling them the girl version of BTS which is a blatant lie. It's sad because these girls are actually talented but they bombed hard af when they got chances to go overseas and perform and it was honestly super sad.

[@WilliamsAK07]

I know this is an old post, but still going to share my opinion. It's okay to not like the "biggest" act, there are plenty that were the "biggest" that I really didn't care much for their music. I still however, when asked, spoke with respect with what they brought to the industry, what they accomplished, even though I really didn't like them even today, there are many artists at the top, I just don't get how they are on the top, but I feel that majority of the people like them, like their music, so they are doing something right. I can't stand to see people and artists alike, make themselves bigger than they are, try to take more credit than they deserve. Part of what is appealing to me about BTS is they openly and continually pay respect to artists that have inspired them. I could keep going, but yes, I like artists that are not full of themselves, speak on and pay respect to other artists.

[@Jurnalist_]

Respect. I like that approach.

[@nancyisabelesquiveltapia6795]

Hola, a mi no me gusta el Kpop, pero conoci a BTS por casualidad en KZbin, ni siquiera por el mercado norteamericano, consumo musica nacional (MEXICO) pero BTS es universal, no se que era pero me atrapo, bueno ni siquiera me gustan los asiáticos, (excepto bts) pero BTS los amo 💜 de verdad y JHOPEEEEEEE mi amor, mi vida mi cielo. y los conoci desde el 2019 y soy ARMY con orgullo

[@Lapunzel7]

if you EVER seen Ninja Assassin ( yeah the movie) THAT's Rain lol. He is a singer and actor. All the folks that you said you didn't know, ARE Korean. Epik High and Dynamic Duo (DaDU they are called for short in Korea) and verbal Jint, San E and Drunken Tiger (AKA Tiger JK)are pretty Legendary in Korean Hip-Hop scene in their own rights. I'm not sure if they are all considered Gen 1... I know Tiger JK is for sure. San E, Verbal Jint and Epink High are kind of in between. Baek Ji-Young is a singer. I'm not quite sure if she'd be consider hip-hop or R& B though. SHE is also extremely well know in Korea as a vocalist though. Rain's gener is... well... i guess kind of R& B. He is really well known for his dance abilities. Psy, I think is, oddly enough, considered to be... sort of hip-Hop and R&B... although I don't personally think of him as such. He is entertaining that's what he is lol. I love his humor, it's silly. And the songs are fun, MV has comedic feels to them. He is a busy man... He is a PNation CEO. I wonder whatever happen to him going into the his dad's company... I swear I Heard after his success of Gang Nam Style (oddly enough, I am from Gang Nam, Seoul originally) I hear his dad's company stock went up and his dad wanted him to work at the company... but few years later, he created P Nation. Which IS a Hip-Hop label

[@Jurnalist_]

Ty for these details. They are very helpful to my learning more about Korean artist and culture. 💜🫡

[@loredell]

37:35 They have Ithaca Holdings since last year :D so yeah, "this is america" and they can buy what they want.

[@SnowRivera]

26:00 bruv....when ready, ofc you gotta listen to the original Seo Taiji 'Comeback Home' then what BTS did with it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Jurnalist_]

I really need to actually I need to see where this all started

[@jessicapierce3027]

@@Jurnalist_ bby gang has a history of Kpop video, so does DKDKTV TV. Seo Taiji also has a 25th anniversary concert and he invited BTS to perform several songs with him. His track "Class room idea" is full on metal.

[@BrilliantHuman]

42:40 But look at BTS and all the references and kudos that they've given to artists who have inspired them or pushed the envelope. They have no problem shouting out other artists and there are moments in music shows where Jin has literally taken smaller shyer artist and had them stand up in front with them, etc. They are humble and confident and that is super attractive and rather than making artistry about a competition it's just really fucking lovely to watch and witness and support. Respect where respect is given.

[@marirezende8478]

23:56 it's mostly only for idols, the heavy makeup, genderless clothes etc

[@doraaaa0613]

oh you should check out more of new jeans music whenever you’ve got the time! they’re pretty young, so their music lyrically is more about teen crushes and all that. but their production brings something really new to the table, the members are really into the creative aspects of their work and i feel like they’re the next group with the most potential to break out into mainstream global pop music after bts. i could definitely be wrong but they’ve got all the elements and some really interesting and new music production.

[@chere100]

14:46 I can think of a french one! Papaoutai by Stromae. Though, Stromae is from Belgium (which is right next to France).

[@Ana-id6uk]

Stromaeee. Jurnalist, this man has lyrics and messages. Please react. I don't know if it's hard to find subs though, I listen in French. Carmen should have subs I think, great song, you won't get the wordplay, but it's there okay

[@jessicapierce3027]

Sunbae is a Korean word for senior, or somebody who has been doing something longer than you, in context for this video its someone who was in the music industry longer. But it can be used for example: a student who is in a higher grade level or a Co-worker who has been present in the company longer, or someone in a higher position, but higher ups are called by their title like "manager" or "president". The "nim" at the end is a way to make the addressment more formal or put some respect on it.

[@4EVERWITHBTS]

Great reaction! 34:00 I agree with you 100% that you don't have to like something even if it is the biggest thing in the world. Everyone's tastes differ but what I do think is even if you don't like something, that doesn't mean you can disrespect it. I don't expect everyone to like BTS. If their music is not your music, so be it. However, a lot of people kind of neglect their hard work and don't respect the influence they've had and that's annoying. Not talking about you of course but other people I mean.

[@RD-ke7en]

the bucket hat is a straw hat...This is why my friend called me ignorant :')

[@loredell]

7:50 I think I recommended Psy in some other video (his latest album is fire for me, I love the man beyond his sweet 1-hit funny title tracks: Daddy, New Face, Hangover with Snoop etc), but more than open the door... I don't know, at least in my surroundings it was a mockery about what Koreans had for music, so Psy did many other things and had to bear with them (including depression and a lot of things he's mentioned here and there), but Kpop was perceived as "funny" stuff after him + factory made groups. So GP would never go for lyrics or artful presentations imho. And yes, it was racism. A lot. I lived it here in Europe, still to this day when you ask someone about the song or Psy, check their reaction. As if nobody before him had had funny tracks (SNL says hello among others). Nah, it was the "chinese" singing and dancing around for many people. And he's talked about it how he went global but sitll was received by konnichi was and ni haos. Nah, man. PS. Psy is a hip hop artist. He has a story like SUGA (Yoongi). He wrote for others, got ripped off or nobody wanted his stuff, so he decided to sing himself. He started in 2002.

[@iduli02]

Korea is generally quite accepting of more androgynous style of dressing, men wearing a bit of natural makeup or having feminine clothing isn't too looked down upon, especially in the entertainment industry where they value fashion and looks very much, you can go crazy with your outfits and as long as they don't deem your outfit too slutty, it's fine It's a huge contrast to the way they then actually treat more feminine men or masculine women, Korea is still quite homophobic and misogynistic and they will slut shame any female idol who dresses "too promiscuously" and they do not quite accept gay people in the industry. The only openly gay idol in Korea was semi recently attacked and beaten because of his sexuality, and former idol Sulli was harassed and criticized heavily for speaking about women's rights, later when she opened up about the abuse she had suffered, they twisted it and blamed her, the harassment got even worse and she was bullied by Korean netizens to the point that she tragically ended her own life. A similar thing happened to Hara, another female idol who was relentlessly harassed for similar reasons, after her ex boyfriend posted revenge porn of her and she got blamed and ridiculed for it and the harassment intensified, she sadly took her own life as well. It's just so ironic to me that you can and should dress sexily but if you do it in an empowering way or for yourself, you will be relentlessly criticized. Same goes for how male idols should dress well and often in interesting androgynous styles, fan service is encouraged and lesbian and gay "aesthetics" are often used for music videos and photoshoots, but god forbid you are actually gay then that's crossing the line.

[@Jurnalist_]

Thank you for this informative comment.

[@AngelaSealana]

LOL Yes, the Angus length shorts on Jin 😄 I was wondering why my brain kept thinking I'd seen shorts worn that way. And you know what? You're also right about Wale. He pays attention to artists around the world. Very intelligent. Let's be honest, a lot of us watch Boracity's videos cuz we wanna hear her burn someone in the end 🤣🤣

[@Jurnalist_]

Big Angus is a fav of mine to see at a AC/DC show.

[@Jurnalist_]

Wake has been on the ball for a minute. Bora has some sass😂

[@jessicapierce3027]

Sometimes the shade she brings is worth all the time.

[@mariamaria-qb3pr]

I’ve watched some of your reactions. Just a suggestion and you can ignore if you’re inclined to do so, please allow the narrator to complete her argument before you inject your opinion. A lot of times you are talking above your head without understanding culture and how things work within HYBE, BTS, KPop industry, SKorea, Asia etc. it helps you form an intelligent reaction/opinion if you listen to the whole argument first before contradicting or reacting. Thanks.

[@user-vd1hr5gj4l]

I think it is respectable to dislike artists because it's just not your style of music or taste. However, I think it gets ridiculous to progress to "hating" on an artist that your fav is trying to follow after, or their company is trying to seek the same achievements, etc. That is where the jealousy and hypocrisy come in, as I observe in some of these situations mainly within the Korean music community.

[@dawncleaveley4875]

They deserve all the accolades, they are amazing!! And they DID and ARE paving the way, they are not done yet!! Pssst... Canada??? Drake and the Weeknd??? Lol 💜🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@sonyamontes8978]

I would say you are right . Every one has their taste in music. I am not a Taylor listener and probably liked 4 songs of hers. And I am not a Beyoncé listener. Probably like 3 songs of hers. And I would see either Taylor or Beyoncé win at awards show and not be impressed. Wonder why people like them so much. The amount of wins they have I think was sometimes too much.

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

I'm waiting for your reactions to the boys' songs. I want to see your opinion.

[@anniedeedrix6732]

andre boccelli italian , luciano pavaroti, ( italian) kylie minogue ( aussie) made it big in the usa .. kylie minogue was mainstream. iggy izaleas did not reach kylie minogue status in the music industry . white american artists make it big in asian countries . justin bieber, the weekend , celin dion are canadian and these artists are popular in asian countries. koreans don’t know black american artists sadly

[@lisimon_OT7]

I know that there are german artist who are successful on the global market. (I think its mostly DJs like Timmy Trumpet or Robin Schulz) But often those Artist use english lyrics to enter other markets. So if the lyrics are english, (for me) its not recognizable if the artist is from another country.

[@Jurnalist_]

I need more German artist too.

[@lisimon_OT7]

@@Jurnalist_ Well, I would be pretty hyped to see if you like "Bleib in der Schule" (Stay in school" by Trailerpark. It's quite something. An Artist you might enjoy is Apache. I don't activly listen to him, but his song "Roller" was on the german Charts. Two Iconic Groups in Germany are in the Punk-Rock genre "Die Ärzte" und "Die Toten Hosen". So if you ever have time and the opportunity then check out "Schrei nach Liebe" ("Cry for Love") or "Lasse reden" ("Let them talk/gossip") 💜

[@jessicapierce3027]

I thought Xceleste had a video on how BTS influenced the music industry. I couldn't find it when I searched for it, but there were other videos that popped up, that I have yet to watch. I wonder what your take would be on that topic.

[@Jurnalist_]

With not enough information I would say its in the education of a fan base about the details of the music industry.

[@lennyanyn]

honestly, even though it was far for psy's intention, gangnam style really made the stereotype that "asian music is funny and weird" even stronger. at least in my country people loved gangnam style but just to make fun of the "funny korean guy" and used that song to bully asian people. ofc IT'S NOT HIS FAULT, we should only blame those racist xenophobic people, but that's why i really respect BTS. they forced people to see through the stereotypes, and i think army made this possible with how supportive we were with those who wanted to know more about them. we were seen as annoying and people said "we couldn't take a joke" bcuz we took those stereotypes very seriously, but i think it worked and nowdays the general public respects k-pop and sees it as a real thing people like, not just a joke.

[@thegeekoutgirl]

24:17 Well, I just think that there's a toxic masculinity problem in the us lol. I think that if you are secure in who you are and your gender or sexuality, you can dress more feminine or masculine and just be comfortable with who you are. There's this strange thing that I see with guys that you HAVE to be manly and you HAVE to struggle alone and I just think that leads to a very lonely existence.

[@Jurnalist_]

I would agree if your secure it don’t matter that ain’t my bedroom nor outfit. You like it I love it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I think there’s a small shift happening with men and their mental health but it’s not big enough or fast enough quite yet.

[@thegeekoutgirl]

@@Jurnalist_ that’s what I’m hoping for too. I worry about my guy friends all the time so I’m always asking how they’re doing.

[@loredell]

18:00 You know how the collab came to be, right? (I guess you read it in other videos comments) Fans tweeted Wale that RM was a fan and to collab with him. The rest is history.

[@loredell]

I don't know if you've seen it, but I strongly recommend Perfect Blue. Animation movie, for adults only :) Yes, I was deep down the Jpop/rock before I even checked what Korea was doing at the time. And yes, they drank up a lot of things in a way from them. At first, I was a bit annoyed (sorry!) because they did remakes of movies and series than didn't need remaking (as usual in general), then I learnt the remakes went the other way too so I started checking more things out bit by bit until Youjeen came into scene.

[@cg558]

ACDC is Australian. FyI. So is Sia, Kid Laroy

[@piedpluto]

sunbaenims means “senior”

[@debshortstoph84]

Rain is a Korean musician. I think you would love some of his music. Check out La Song and Rainism. Rainism will remind you of Michael Jackson's move.