BTS방탄소년단 - Cypher Pt 2 Triptych | Reaction

[@Mrs.L.44]

I am a 61 year old teacher that has lived through many musical legends and even the birth of hip hop. My personal music taste is Hip Hop but when I experienced the depths of BTS’s music it hit my heart and mind on a level no other ever has. Now I enjoy all of it from their hip hop roots, ballads, EDM, R & B, and even the all English pop songs. They have fans diving into literature, art, psychology, Greek Mythologies, donating to worthy causes, standing up to social injustices and more. I feel there is a lot to BTS you are missing. Since you like this, you might enjoy the rappers solo mix tapes.

[@stacybrenton5482]

Im 62-yr-old Boomer ARMY. I'm sure like me you've seen all the greats. BTS has opened up my world to rap and I love it.

[@rositasoe6379]

Yo my fellow teacher ARMY 🥰 I'm 46 this year, a mom with two kids. Love from across the world...

[@geecotine]

I love how he genuinely thinks BTS need his advice on how to be more popular hahaha

[@jmsj77]

Ikr

[@sonablom]

My advice "go to hawaii"

[@lalainesala8579]

Right, i mean BTS has a very wide range of genre of music in their 9 years worth of discography, including hiphop because they originally debuted as a hiphop group.. Its not their fault that people specially from the west has a preconcieved notion of what a ""KPOP" should sound like. One reason BTS is now the biggest artist in the world is because they are not afraid to experiment on their sound. If this "shocked" you...i cant imagine once you hear the rest of cypher series , and solo stuff of the BTS rapline like AGUSTD, JOKE, DO YOU, DAECHWITA, OUTRO: TEAR, BASELINE, HANGSAN and more! Believe me when i say, this is not the most "HIPHOP" BTS you have seen yet!

[@Lapunzel7]

Isn't it funny he thinks world's Biggest fan base doesn't have hip-hop heads. Or BTS needs help how to gain more popularity... smh. He has formed an opinion on what BTS is about listening to last 4 songs that were released. There soo much more, and in ORDER to truly appreciate those 4 songs, he needs the play catch up on last 9 years.

[@chocmint27]

I love that BTS defies genres instead of just staying in the limited confines of “you have to do this same sound or approach for each song on your album, every album”…. But glad he still checked it out 😊

[@crystalsnow1138]

With all due respect if you think this is a new style for BTS you haven't listened to enough BTS. RM and Suga were both underground rappers in South Korea before joining BTS and BTS was originally a hip hop group so their roots are hip hop. They even came to the US in 2014 and got mentored by Coolio and Warren G. All 3 rappers in BTS have their own solo mixtapes and J-Hope released his first solo album this past July and rocked Lollapalooza as a solo act. There are also plenty of BTS songs that are straight rap with just the rap line (RM, Suga, and J-Hope) as well as their own solo songs on BTS albums. They were also were heavily influenced by rappers and hip hop artists growing up. Eminem was Suga's first CD he ever bought and Nas is RM's biggest musical influence. RM also worked alongside Wale, Lil Nas X and Juice WRLD had a collab called All Night with Suga and RM and Suga had a feature on his posthumous album called Girl Of My Dreams. You should listen to Hip Hop Phile/Hip Hop Lover where they literally name drop all the artists who have inspired them. And I'm sorry but being a "hip hop head" is no excuse for not knowing who BTS is. I'm not expecting everyone to know their songs by heart but if someone claims to know anything about music they should have at least heard of BTS by now and assuming all they do is bubblegum pop is just plain ignorance. I can also guarantee you even if BTS were to focus more on the rap side people still would not give them a chance mostly due to the language barrier and because of their preconceived notion of what "kpop" is supposed to sound like. RM even said he doesn't want to limit their music to the term kpop so that's why most BTS fans don't even like to call BTS a kpop group because it automatically pushes people away. But also keep in mind BTS is a group with 4 other members who predominately sing so they can't do straight rapping all the time when it comes to their group songs because the vocalists in BTS are also very talented and their vocal heavy songs appeal to a broader audience. BTS didn't get this and become the biggest group in the world because of 2, 3, or 4 members, but it was because of all 7 members and their talents. I have no problem if you prefer this style of music from them but I don't care for people who try to dictate what kind of music BTS should make especially when they've been doing songs like this for over 9 years. I don't know what or how much of BTS music you've heard before, but I definitely think you need to explore their music more if you think BTS is just bubblegum pop group.

[@liselleviljoen2236]

Yes! This comment is great. I think MrLBoydREacts' tone is respectful overall but just dismissing a band as bubblegum pop is a bit sad and disappointing.

[@hodidebb197]

The comment is too long. You could’ve said the same with half text.

[@gracethomas4144]

Love this comment! Respectful but to the point and 100% facts. Thank you for this! 👏💜

[@crystalsnow1138]

@@hodidebb197 LOL. It's not even that much, I've seen comments before a lot longer than mine. You're free to write your own comment if you feel like mine was too long, but I had a lot to say and I'm not going to shorten it just because it seems like a lot to some people. But thanks for your opinion.

[@hodidebb197]

@@crystalsnow1138 I’ve seen comments that are longer too, it doesn’t mean that your is not long though. Also, nobody said you have to shorten it, I just said that you can. You can literally say the same thing with less words.

[@melwigs]

I don’t know how to begin to address your misconceptions lol but it is what it is. This is classic BTS, and even their “pop” tracks have depths and the rapline always kills it. The trouble is that you’ve likely been reacting to title tracks. Bts are kpop IDOLS, they do put out bubblegum pop title tracks from time to time. But that’s the nature of what they come from and they’re not trying to change. They’re not trying to bring in a whole other fan base, people who want to pay any attention to bts in the first place know they’re talented. And bts won’t be shoved down the publics throat in America bc they aren’t American/English. The people who genuinely enjoy hiphop who are open minded enough to even look into bts ARE part of the fan base I assure you ^this is all respectfully. Kpop is a completely different world and if you don’t know anything about it, lots of elements will be foreign to you even as you delve deeper. But that “whole other fan base” you speak of is either already with bts or unneeded. From a popularity standpoint these guys blow any artists you’ve ever known out of the water on a global scale. And with this reaction you only caught a tip of the iceberg as to why lol

[@erivera9313]

Here is how I address his miss-conceptions. I just use the 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 emoji.

[@LynntheWhalien]

Oh man, I love the shock people get when they dive into BTS's roots. If you didn't know, bts debuted as a hip hop group. I highly suggest you check out all 4 cyphers and hip hop lover. These 3 rappers in bts also do solo music and it is AMAZING! I enjoyed your reaction and I'm glad you enjoyed the cypher 💜

[@charach7855]

He used to react to daechwita and suga that that around 1/2 year ago. So he got a taste of the rap line a little bit.

[@codmw2nooblet]

Nahh this aint it

[@M3RKMAFlA]

@@codmw2nooblet thx for your opinion everyone has their own

[@bl00p_s00p]

I was literally just about to recommend hip hop lover! It rlly shows that they respect the culture and aren’t just using it for a quick buck yk

[@codmw2nooblet]

@@M3RKMAFlA thats true power to you if you like it 👍👍

[@itsme_justjenny]

this is actually their foundation, rap and hiphop. The group was built around the leader RM who is an underground rapper. They're true students of hiphop, they love their old school rap influences.

[@reneezemlock7880]

BTS started as a hip hop group and two of the members were in the underground Korean rap scene BEFORE joining BigHit. If all you know is their "poppy" stuff... you've got a huge surprise in store. They have over 300 songs in almost every genre. There are 4 Cyphers. All three rappers also have solo albums out. Check out "Joke" by RM, "Agust D" by Agust D (Sugs), and "Hangsang" by J-Hope. "Tear" is all three of them.

[@simply-fiona]

‘You’ll appreciate their music if you listen without prejudice…’ A wise man once said. 💜😊 Love your reaction but , honestly, you haven’t got a clue what BTS rappers can do… and their live performances? ABSOLUTELY mind-blowing!! 🔥🔥😎

[@charach7855]

He probably haven't got a full clue of the BTS rappers but he actually already got a taste of them a little bit as he already reacted to suga daechwita and that that around 1/2 year ago.

[@simply-fiona]

@@charach7855 lovely to see people when they realise BTS is different from what they were expecting… haha. 😁 He sounds genuine so I hope he would react to BTS more. 😊💜

[@charach7855]

@@simply-fiona Yes, he probably didn't realize that Agust D is Suga. Me too... hoping that he would react to BTS more. 💜

[@clino137]

❤

[@nuhkyah23]

Right here on KZbin there are many many knowledgeable hip hop reactors that love BTS rap, you're just late to the train. BTS been rapping like this consistently since the beginning, but their music style and genre is as diverse as their fan base.

[@sonablom]

Love Monq. He's an og hip hop head and so knowledgeable.

[@charach7855]

Sir, do you know why BTS have a large number of fans? Because they cover so many genre. So they attract all different people who have different taste. No matter what is your taste of music, BTS have them in their music. Well honestly I think a lot ARMY fall in love with them more then the genre itself, it's the lyrics that we all can relate and a lot of their songs give hope and spread positivity while still acknowledge struggles, their humble personalities and how they care and still communicate with their fans. Not many musician make music specific for their fans. BTS does. I don't know why a lot of people in western countries still don't know them but can you believe that Jin of BTS goes live playing game and talking to ARMY in PJ has 8.4M viewers while Emmy Awards only has 7.8M viewers? I hope you will give BTS a chance and go deeper. I believe if you want to go deeper, a lot of ARMY will willingly give you all information, documentaries, songs, live performance, shows, behind the scene, shooting sketches, interviews, and many more that you can explore.

[@4EVERWITHBTS]

Actually, their "poppy" songs are only a small part of their discography. BTS is not limited to 1 genre they do a bunch of different styles which is part of the reason their fanbase is so large. They give variety in their music instead of only hip hop. It shows their versatility as artists in my opinion. I recommend you to dive deeper into their catalog and who knows? You might discover some new favourite songs

[@atlantis315]

oh man, these guys are top class. there is so much more to be found in their work All of the rappers have solo mixtapes/albums that are all hip hop. there is a lot of substance in their lyrics and all 3 of them are completely different with their own style. suggestions: Tear, UGH, HipHop Lover, solos: Daechwitta ( i think you already did this one and you didn´t even know it was a BTS member LOL), The Last, Shadow. from Suga /AgustD Joke, Do you from RM Arson, Hangsang Jhope

[@laysdias3923]

Up 🇧🇷💜

[@SilverFang95]

Bruh. They aren't always poppy. They have a lot of different genres. Also I reccomend hip hop lover. It's a hip hop song on their story of hip hop and I won't spoil the lyrics anymore. They started out as a hip hop group. The one that is rapping in orange (Rap Monster, he doesn't go by that anymore, he just goes by RM) is the leader. Leader does not make him the best, but he is just the middle man between the group and their label, also has extra responsibilities. They write and produce almost all of their songs. Also, where is Cypher part 1? RM and Suga were underground rappers before applying to Big Hit. Hip hop heads are gate keepers and aren't open minded, bts had a fair share of underground rappers criticize them because the rappers of the group weren't underground rappers anymore. The rappers in BTS basically said fuck em and went on to create masterpieces, including hip hop songs. Also because you tend to go towards rap and hip hip you'll only see 3 sometimes 4 of the members in most of their rap and hip hop stuff. So don't be confused when you see more or less members of the 7 member group. All the members have solo albums if you want to check them out. The rappers of the group are RM, Suga (a.k.a. Agust D, stands for Suga backwards and the DT is his hometown of Daegu, so Daegu Town), as well as J-Hope.

[@thatguy7163]

Yo is this a dude?

[@thatguy7163]

If yes then **bro hugs**

[@SilverFang95]

@@thatguy7163 yes **bro hugs**

[@ObssesiveReaderr]

love this comment, good explanation bro

[@te1763]

this is the essence of BTS, not new but definitely new for the people discovering them for the first time. their foundation was built on rap/hiphop influences. we love them for this!!

[@ZoriNikolova]

BTS has already proved they are not in that kpop category they are ARTISTS ❤ ALL 7 OF THEM

[@aprilforgue]

Sadly it's American radio only plays the poppy stuff and only if it's in English. BTS has such great music in all genres. You have about a decade of music to catch up on there catalog is no joke. You could just start at the beginning No More Dream when they debut in 2013. You also have solo mix tapes and albums to get to as well. Jhope just released his solo album before headling lollapalooza this year and broke records. You can watch the whole performance on KZbin with English subs. Outro tear live is one of my favorites from the rap line. They are even better live so I would always recommend live performance if they have one. You might like born singer and hip-hop lover as well.

[@shockofthenew]

"It's what they do, they do kpop" ... it's understandable to think that way after hearing a few singles, but the foundation of BTS is hip hop, and there's magic in their album tracks and solo work. They've been going for nearly 10 years at this point, so there's a lot to discover! The rappers all have solo albums and mixtapes. Plenty of BTS songs are also hip-hop or rap-heavy. Just a few: Cypher 3 & 4 Ddaeng UGH Intro: Persona Outro: Tear There are great live performances for all of those, and a channel called DKDKTV has videos explaining the references in their lyrics. Maybe also rewind back to an early track called 'Hip Hop Lover' to get a taste of their origins and why they do what they do. Of the 3 guys on this track, 2 started out in the Korean underground hip hop scene, and one was a well-known street dancer. They recieved a lot of backlash for 'going mainstream' but through doing that they've been able to reach a massive global audience who'd never have heard them otherwise. They came up through the 'kpop' industry because that was the only potential for them to succeed, but they've written a lot about their identity struggles between the labels of 'pop idol' and 'artist'. RM has a song called 'Do You' specifically about this. BTS is a unique group because they really did come from the bottom to the top. They come from a small company and really struggled in the early years (e.g. all sharing one bedroom). They weren't even set to make it in Korea, but now they're on top of the world. As a fan since the early days it's been utterly surreal seeing them slowly but surely grow to where they are now, entirely through fandom effort, and despite a huge amount of prejudice, racism, haters, death threats, being shut out by radio and media etc. Another good video if you want a quick overview of why people are so crazy about them is 'A Guide To BTS Members: The Bangtan 7'.

[@WhalienDNA]

Yeah I love when people who only know a tiny bit of BTS try to explain what BTS are about. Like sir, you have seen the tip of the iceberg only. Maybe inspect it further before you draw conclusions 😂

[@Janette1]

There’s a reason why they are MASSIVE & on top. Common misconception about BTS is that they only produce bubble gum pop because they are apart of “kpop”. Personally, i think their music, specially the old ones & the not so popular ones, are dope! Not only that, the, production value is top tier - the mv, choreo, concept & stage/live performances. They just dont stand on stage to only sing & rap. Thanks for reacting!

[@mariadelapena2771]

Glad you've finally discovered the hip-hop roots of BTS. In addition to many rap and hip-hop songs in the BTS discography, all three of the rappers have also released two solo albums/mixtapes each, in case you're interested.

[@heyrobwest3908]

God you're not too damn knowledgeable about BTS. only one rapper has released one solo album J hope. Did you bother to watch the BTS festa dinner where they announced that they were going on a hiatus from group activities to concentrate on solo projects like albums. In his speech at the dinner RM explain the difference between a mix tape and an album watch the damn video! RLM has done two mix tapes and no albums so far. Sugar has done two mixtapes under the name August D and no albums so far! Jay hope has done one mixtape and one album so far! SRM stated mixtapes and albums are not the same thing.

[@addison5938]

Hmmm. You said they do K-pop. I wonder what you think that actually is? K-pop is not a genre by the way. It's actually a western term given to Korean popular music which includes many genres. In South Korea they don't refer to it as K-pop. BTS themselves covers everything from rap to hip hop to R&B to Latin pop to ballad and they all fall under the umbrella of K-pop because they happen to be a South Korean group. BTS has been doing hip hop as well as their other genres since their debut in 2013. And actually BTS was originally conceptualized as a hip hop group. That's why the first two members signed to BTS came from the underground rap scene in South Korea where they were already making a name for themselves. J-Hope signed, mainly because he was a dancer, learned to rap after joining BTS and developed his own style. You would be surprised how large a true hip hop audience BTS has. Many past and current hip hop artists know exactly who they are and absolutely would be able to tell you who BTS is. Many listeners that are into hip hop as you describe it already know about BTS and are fans. As well as a huge contingency of heavy metal aficionados are also BTS fans.

[@xRaptorScreamx]

Look up Hiphop Lover, by them. Also, most of the "pop" songs they have recently, is just to brake the US market, because that's what works in US. They have fusions of multiple genres in their catalog, and most of them didnt even reach US Radio

[@bulletproofajimae391]

Live...Hip Hop Lover...Live

[@SilverFang95]

@@bulletproofajimae391 with lyrics

[@Emily21D]

They are delivering things like this consistently, the majority of their work and especially the rappers solo albums are not bubble gum pop. For example, from their latest album in 2020 they have songs called ugh,persona,shadow ect. All the rappers solo works are like this too. Bts at its core will always be hiphop, obviously they do other genres but the majority of thier songs are written by the rappers so its going to be in a hiphop style. But it's in korean and unfortunately Western listeners don't listen to anything in another language an it's almost impossible to get radio stations to play anything in korean. That only leaves them listening to bts' 3 English songs, that happen to be bubblegum pop(that they made in the pandemic to help people stay positive) when people don't look at the other 300+ songs that are hiphop/rnb/ballad/neo soul ect. Its less bts not making hiphop rap songs and more western audiences won't listen to non English and radio won't play it ☹️💜

[@heyrobwest3908]

Especially the rapper's solo albums only one rapper from BTS has done a solo album Jay hope it's called Jack-in-The-Box the two singles are More an Arson. REM talked about that and they're festa dinner where they announced they were going on a extended hiatus to do solo albums and other solo projects. He talked about how their mixtapes were not albums mixtapes are release for free online and do not have physical albums. All BTS's regular albums have physical albums!

[@classical7]

BTS roots are in hip hop. Welcome to our precious rap line of BTS. Two of the 3 rappers were underground rappers before joining BTS. The group was formed around the first member, RM, our precious leader. All 7 members make up BTS. Each add a different level of flavor and spice to BTS overall. There's no BTS without all 7 members. 💜

[@alyssam.7425]

The fact that you think they DON’T consistently deliver songs like this, when they literally debuted as a hiphop group and have 2 former underground rappers, is the most amusing part of this video. XD You’ve got a lot more songs like this to check out, man! Their “poppy” songs like Boy With Love, Dynamite, and Butter are actually a break from the norm for them. Their discography is so diverse, and they love to try out new sounds. :) Keep looking!

[@soop5414]

BTS are their own genre. The pop songs are just the side dishes to their real style which is whatever the heck they want to do, regardless of industry expectations.

[@ericweinman9447]

"That's what they do. They are K Pop" Curious, do you know what K Pop is or just the stereotypes being bandied about? K Pop covers a wide swath of musical genres which make up Korean popular music. In BTS's case, they were doing real hip hop as one of their genres from even before their debut. I know there are different degrees of integrity to rap in the US so why tag Korean rap as lacking depth and not being real when it also runs the spectrum? Then you act surprised when you encounter your first example of a higher level of Korean hip hop. Did you come into this reaction thinking Koreans (K Pop) are automatically inferior music makers? Starting off by boxing BTS as Pop out of ignorance of who they are is like boxing any kind of people because one has ignorantly made suppositions about who they are based on limited knowledge. While judging artists is not as insidious as prejudgments about groups of people, taking care when characterizing the artistry of foreign musicians from a minimally exposed position works best. The good thing about prejudices is they can be overcome. I have seen many hip hop heads who come to respect a group like BTS that delivers across genres without making a statement that they need BTS to stay in a specific hip hop lane to earn their respect. Guess they to their credit are more open minded.

[@nvma660]

BTS won't ever limit their creativity and talent to appeal to a certain fanbase. They're a multitalented super group who can do it all and that's a part of their uniqueness and the reason so many ppl love them. We have fans of all kinds of genres in the fandom even metal heads. You just have to be open minded. If ppl don't give them a chance bc of their prejudices it's honestly their loss, we don't care.

[@taratravia9464]

You should check this out live. AND absolutely check out UGH! and the explanation video of the lyrics which is a deep dive and worth it because there are things a non Korean will miss. The fact they are so versatile is a testament to their talent, not a extraction. Each of the rap line is incredibly talented in their own right as rappers, composers, producers, AND can do so much more. they don’t need to cater to hip-hop heads, but glad you can appreciate this aspect of them. I enjoy their rapping as much as their other music.

[@Bangtan7ever]

That’s the beauty of their music, they don’t stick to just one or a specific genre! BTS has music for everybody’s taste💜

[@adistinindrasari3047]

True!

[@ashdalgais4774]

TOP TIP: Check out "Hip-Hop-phile (aka Hip-Hop Lover)". You will understand their love and admiration for hip-hop and the legends of the genre. Just curious, which BTS songs are you familiar with? At least half (if not more) of their massive discography (must be over 300 songs now, RM is credited on over 200 alone and Suga and J-Hope are both in the high 100s) is hip-hop. The mixtapes and solo albums are predominately hip-hop as the rappers have released the most solo music thus far. They do have poppy tracks but they also have rock tracks (Dionysus), edm (So What), ballads (The Truth Untold), r&b (Singularity), and even some tracks that have a more classical influence (Lie and Black Swan {Orchestral mix})! They really are not what the media largely makes them out to be😅

[@Renee_009]

Sir, you might was to familiarize yourself with their music catalog before making suggestions about what BTS “should” and “shouldn’t” be doing with their rap music. You’ve only touched the surface

[@ralphy383]

What you just saw are the 3 original members of the group bts. A hiphop group. BTS has and will always be hiphop. That's their roots. RM and SUGA and JHOPE were going to debut early on together like this. RM and suga were underground rappers, and jhope used to be a hiphop/Street dancer. The concept of bts slightly changed and vocalists were added in. They were also mentored by American rappers early on in their career. Even to this day bts pay their tribute to hiphop. You haven't listened to enough bts if this surprises you.

[@adrxdeedrich5091]

Bts rapline have been releasing rap music for 10 yrs

[@otakud1va]

American radio did not want BTS to be popular or for people to look further so they only pushed their ultra pop music

[@treebella9299]

Dude!!!!! This is how BTS began!! They started out as hip hop!

[@teebeee5832]

theyre NOT kpop and they always rap theyre not attempting to this song is from 2014 and they been doing this even in 2022. you just havent dove any deeper into their work. kpop is not pop music never has been. its korean POPULAR music not pop genre. and even with that definition bts still dont fit cause theyre surpassed the kpop label as theyre the biggest artists globally even bigger than american artists who claim to be global but cant sell out stadiums or arenas in other countries. bts can sell out any stadium in any country. please dive deeper do a guide to bts the bangtan 7 by taylor.

[@whatever_itis]

Lol wdym will bring a different fanbase? Army is already diverse a long time ago, it's just whether you are aware or not. We have people who love poppy songs, EDM, Latin, rock, hip-hop and more lmao.

[@itsme_justjenny]

DOB and RZA of Wu Tang cleared a sample and are credited in a song by Jhope of BTS rappers in a song called What If.

[@MM-et2jr]

This reaction made me laugh so much (in a good way. No offense meant). But to put it in HP-terms: you seem like a muggle who has just found out there's magic. Honestly, peoples perception (me included before I learned) of BTS is way different than BTS ARMYs perception of BTS. We know what they do and what they're capable of. We have all been there before diving in. And this track is from their debut year in 2013, so this is nothing new. I'm glad you had fun reacting. Hope to see more. How about RM's "Joke"?

[@sonablom]

I do like the muggle analogy except in the Harry Potter world the magic users are actively trying to hide their existence from the muggles. This guy has just been actively under a rock because of prejudice and is assuming everyone else has too. I'm glad hes taking a peak out of the well

[@MM-et2jr]

@@sonablom Maybe. But idk. I have a feeling he's just a "victim" to this old fashioned societal notion and norms that labels a group of men as a boyband and therefore has to be similar to all the previous boybands he has heard of. He is just unaware that times have changed, and that's okay. We all start somewhere. But I love your "out of the well" - makes me think of RM's verse in Ddaeng where he talks about the frog in the well (perhaps that's what you intended?). Maybe he is just a frog about to be let out of the well.

[@sonablom]

@@MM-et2jr yup that was the reference :) I am trying to be as kind as you are being

[@MM-et2jr]

@@sonablom You are ARMY so I know you're kind. We (I'm generalizing) tend to get protective of them when we hear anything that resembles prejudice or preconceived negative comments based on assumptions. So it's very understandable! I get like that too sometimes. I even think my original message could have been worded more kindly.

[@peerlesscucumber9522]

nah, with bts its not always been just pop. they covered SOOOO many music genres. and hiphop was their core. each of the rapper line have their own mixtape/album of their solo.

[@ashleyder9164]

Lol, this is actually much closer to their roots than the pop you associate with them. RM and Suga started as underground rappers. I agree with those suggesting you react to their song Hip Hop Lover. That being said, BTS have intentionally chosen not to be confined to any singular genre...even hip hop, which was their roots and first love. So you will never find an album of theirs that is all hip hop. Or all pop. They like experimenting with genres and fusing genres and that is kind of their "thing".

[@phoenix3612]

This is BTS, If you started from the beginning without assumptions you would not be surprised.

[@viktoriatoth5809]

LOL You probably only heard the 3 poppiest songs they have and American radio is willing to play from BTS if you are surprised by this. 😁

[@MariaChavez-ey5sr]

This is what BTS is, they started as hip hop centered on the 3 rappers. They have always been crazy talented and the 4 Cyphers is them seriously flexing.

[@hobiluv7175]

You definitely need to check out their mixtapes and jhopes first solo album, their are by far the best rap line

[@rowewills]

It is so clear that you haven't listened to enough of them. They've made songs addressing precisely what people like you think about them. They're not one thing. They don't make music to get into the good books of one particular community. If you took the time to understand them you would realise that the beauty of them is that they can do any style any genre and still be true to who they are. But it's clear that you're not yet familiar with that concept.

[@zoeelovee2]

This song is old and this is their foundation of who they are.

[@tenibitz1853]

And now you get it. They started with hip hop before mixing in true pop. But they have all genres.

[@valm5892]

Just came across this reaction and it's my first of yours, and YES. This is a true homage to real rap and hip hop. These guys are something very special. I'm excited to see more reactions. 💜

[@kabazinga]

brand new? this song is from 2014 my guy, it will be nine years old soon, bts has been doing hip hop for over a decade, they were originally supposed to be a hip hop group with only rappers, this is who they are and not something new, two members literally started out as underground rappers

[@azkaban17hogwarts57]

That is who BTS are. They are just the rappers and they have their solo projects. Don't worry BTS has a lot of fan and they will continue to get more. They have offer more than what you just hear. They skills even go beyond singing and rapping. If you are interested they dive right in and if you like it spread the word....😀

[@suziecave179]

they’ve rapped like this since day one. you should listen so Suga’s newest solo album.

[@sam693691]

For your information BTS do not do poppy songs, just 2 English songs during one of the darkest times in modern history to help uplift spirits. All of a sudden they only do poppy sings.. BTS has over 300 songs..

[@sam693691]

Also they did not write those 2 stupid English songs. They just sing them..

[@crystalsnow1138]

@@sam693691 There were 3 fully English songs (Dynamite, Butter, and Permission To Dance) and RM was the only member credited for any of the songs as he co-wrote Butter. I agree their Korean songs are a lot better, but I don't know if I would call their English songs stupid. They are just fun pop songs that I got a lot of enjoyment from and it also opened a lot of doors for BTS when it came to radio exposure. I know a lot of BTS fans who came to know BTS and the rest of their discography through these fully English songs and for that I'm grateful. If these songs aren't your taste that's completely fine, but a lot of people do like these songs and they are far from terrible.

[@erivera9313]

Bruh, you’re not ready for the solo acts of these three BTS rappers. RM, Agust D and J-Hope will straighten you out. 😂😂😂

[@explore.express.love.3483]

More (Hip Hop with rock heavy chorus) Ma city (Electronic) Sexy Nukim (Alternative Rap) Let me Know (Electronic, Pop, Hip Hop) Tomorrow (Mid Tempo Hip Hop/ R&B) Boy In Love (Rock) Danger (Emo Rock) Rain (Electronic Kpop Hip Hop) Outro Tear (Hip Hop) House of Cards (Jazz, Ballad) Black Swan (Emo, Hip Hop, Trap, Cloud Rap) Jack In the Box- Album (with songs of genres Grunge, Hard core Hip Hop, Boom Bap, Rock) Dark & Wild- Album (Hip Hop, R&B, Dance Pop, Funk Soul) Mono- Mixtape (with songs of genres ranging between a soft mix of electronic, indie, and R&B) Agust D- Mixtape (Hip Hop) Just a few songs out of so many many more to show how many subgenres they cover. And I haven't even touched upon many other genres and even tracks of Pop sub genres. With about 300 tracks in their discography, you can never successfully categorise them into any type of a group.

[@stacybrenton5482]

Of dear, he embarrassed himself. No worries, you can't know what you don't know. But we're here to lovingly tell you that you are mistaken or misinformed. They're world class rappers. FYI - K-pop is an integrated entertainment system not a genre of music.

[@organiccookie1306]

Unlike a lot of other artists, BTS can do and actually do lots of different things. They have a discography of about 300 tracks that span lots of different genres. But they all have in common that they were made with utmost sincerity. Personally, I disagree with the statement that BTS have done any bubblegum pop because it is a term that implies lack of depth and artistry. Michael Jackson did pop as well - BTS are on his level of artistry and talent when it comes to pop. But pop is only one of the genres they do, hip-hop is a major part of their identity. They/individual members have had several albums in the Billboard rap album charts - people just need to give them a chance...

[@neddiflex2473]

What "they do" is Hip Hop. That's how they started. The pop came later as members were added to the group. Hip Hop is the root. And this one doesn't even scratch the surface. If you like this then you are in for a treat. Just wait.

[@tanuwhoopies1057]

Bts rapline has another fandom and yes they are SUPREME Rappers even out of kpop. AGUST D, REAL ME (RM) and HOPE WORLD are their official names when it comes to RAP game.

[@CP_LUVS]

Glad you are checking more BTS out. As a point of reference, they STARTED with the intent of being a hip hop group and then shifted directions to the kpop industry but did so with their foundation based still in hip hop so this isn't outside of their wheel house, esp. as 2 of the 3 rappers started out in the hip hop underground at age of 13 and were the first 2 members of the group. This is one reason why ARMY say that BTS are not stereotypical kpop even tho' they were labeled that by many... they are well beyond kpop. Even when they put a straight rap song out western industry label it as kpop which blows my mind. Anyway... Thanks for reacting. Strongly suggest you check out some of their backstory to really understand.

[@charlene3747]

wait till he finds out ... they are... indeed... rappers... It shouldn't be the case of BTS having to cater to a specific subset/genera to get "more fans" maybe more people should be open to listing to music outside of their comfort zone - who knows they might just discover something new ... like you just did. People saying they "don't like BTS" because they hear one or two poppy commercial songs on the radio and don't even know the full catalogue of the group. Listen to songs like RAIN, TOMORROW, DIONYSUS, DISEASE and understand they do more than just commercial pop - which let's be real, they need to do if they want to get ANY air play on western radio. Oh yeah, don't forget to check out the rap line's solo albums. j-hope, RM and Agust D (aka SUGA).

[@moonchild2411]

BTS have every genres of songs. Thats why im hooked. You can find everything just through their music

[@erivera9313]

If they “delivered” the same genre consistently their fan base would be a fraction of what it is today. You just described how to fail as an act and limit who your fans are. I hope you never manage a group. 😂😂😂

[@erivera9313]

BTS does it all and their song lyrics are extremely deep. The term K-POP is too small to describe BTS.

[@cetat468]

The 3 rappers of the group has been putting out albums officially and on soundcloud.

[@wildlotus4339]

Each rapper in BTS has released their own mixtapes to manifestify their individual rap artistry freely. The latest is from Jhope : Jack in the Box album...not mixtape anymore, but Album.

[@amyoconnell3936]

More people would listen? They have been making this music all this time (since before they debuted in 2013) and have been hidden behind stereotypes - you've been missing out, dude!

[@paulaburgess4708]

I always chuckle when I see reactors who just do not understand BTS and who they really are. They had hip hop roots and their music covers all genres.....and I don't think they need help to be popular....they are one of the biggest music groups worldwide with millions of fans worldwide of ages, ethnicities, etc. You really want to be blown away watch JHope's performance at Lollapolosa 2022...he blew it to shreds....biggest crowd for a performer ever..... and also see if you can find the rappers live performances of Cyphers. They don't borrow from anyone and I am so tired of hearing them compared to tired sounding american artists....some of whom, by the way have collaborated with RM.

[@egordillo55]

The beauty of BTS is that they master and mix in several genres creating something very unique to them. It is something that should be praised not looked down as a flaw. But that being said all three rap members of BTS have solo albums that I think you would enjoy. Go check out SUGA as AGUS-D...or Jhope's new album Jack in the Box.

[@charach7855]

He did check out and react to suga daechita and that that around half a year ago.

[@mabelmoon7759]

I am glad you enjoyed this CYPHER. Soon you will find more golden treasures. ARMY do you think he's ready for UGH or DDAENG?

[@stacybrenton5482]

Not sure he's ready. But we'll get him there.

[@jimins_missing_height777]

You just know 2 songs out of 400+ songs by BTS

[@SugaSuga9]

This is BTS roots. The poppy music you’re talking about was made to get people through the pandemic and closed minded Americans. Hip Hop is their base and they branch off into other genres of music. The more you listen to them, the more music you’ll find that fits your taste.

[@Momo-sk9kg]

I suggest listening to Hip Hop Lover by BTS and you can hear where they got their influences

[@magdalenejoanne9438]

This is actually who BTS is. Their roots are hip hop and man you don’t know BTS yet. They are not poppy and they have covered many other genres of music and songs. But hip hop is BTS’s original roots. Welcome to BTS world!

[@codmw2nooblet]

Aight imma head out

[@Nikitajade08]

We don’t expect them to deliver bars????? Whose we?? Laughs in agust d, hope world, rm self titled mixtape

[@linsyaread7294]

What makes BTS ‘BTS’ is because they’re not stuck with one genre only. They’re so versatile and they attract people from different background and music taste. They don’t care if they don’t attract hip hop groups or any particular group. Especially now They’re too big to care about such things. They don’t need to make all their music into hip hop. They love and embrace differences. That’s why their fans come from different background and age group, that’s what make BTS big. I’m sure they’ve got massive fans that are hip hop lovers. TRUST ME..BTS know what they’re doing. And BTS ARMY know what they have to do to make BTS bigger than they are now😉😄 welcome to BTS world! I suggest to keep digging their music. 👍

[@ATPWKH7]

I don't agree. Doing the same thing over and over again means lack of growth. It's ok to like a type of music, but for an artist to get stuck on just one thing must be really frustrating and that's exactly why so many artists burn out and hate their careers. BTS is more... way more daring. They do ALL KINDS OF GENRES, what's important is the quality and the message, and THAT'S why THEY ARE THE BEST.

[@laramaria3267]

Well this is BTS, pls watch RUN BTS live in BUSAN. Probably best representation of who BTS is.

[@eight8592]

Rest in peace coolio who passed away , BTS teacher during their American hustle life.. React to BTS in the American hustle life.

[@muddybudgie]

Someone’s about to get educated 😂 If you think they are just pop, you really don’t know BTS.

[@entropyawylli24]

There are actually many rappers that appriciate and enjoys BTS a alot... I dare to say. And then you have the ones that have prejudices and hates them without even listen to them... no names mentioned...

[@JeonJungkook-wr4yr]

There are so many rappers out there like usher snoop and drake who love bts they are thier influence they look up to them as well. They just did a song with snoop and Benny blanco as well called bad decisions which it was the vocal line in it .

[@eileencritchley4630]

As you will know by now this isn't new this is BTS at their core. In fact Agust D (aka Suga) has just set a new world record as the only Rapper to Sell 1million physical album on the album release. Oh you have no idea do you lol

[@theamazingtwinkle]

I was going to say 'who is going to tell him?' but I see ARMY have already been busy in the comment section 😆.

[@MomaCat59]

You really should listen to more BTS. Then you wouldn’t be surprised by this. They do some amazing hip hop. Most genres are no problem for them. Check out “Dope”, “Fire”, “MIC Drop, Steve Aoki remix” and “ON Kinetic Manifesto”. If more people listened to music with open minds, instead of worrying about the massive popularity of a band, they might just learn some new music. Does anybody ask how these guys got to be the biggest band in the world? You can’t manufacture what they have.

[@itz_a_kitty2425]

Long time lurker in your channel! Happy to see you watching BTS. Watch Outro: Tears live from wembley next. Another great one by the rap line. I consider myself army 💜💜💜💜but I 💯 prefer BTS hip/hop tracks. There’s a LOT of content there. They were hip/hop bboys first. They actually cleaned up their image to be more poppy. Not to denounce their pop tracks they are a talented bunch, but the rap line at least (the 3 guys on this track RM, Suga, J-hope) have their hearts in hip hop. They know their hip hop history too. It can be hard to catch all the puns and the complex bars they lay down with translations but they definitely pay homage. Enjoy the dive!

[@carinaejag]

If you don't know BTS like this then you simply have watched far to little of them. This is right up RM, Suga and J-hopes alley. Watch more of their solo projects.

[@annasaddiction5129]

Agust D - Agust D- Daechwita J-Hope - Airplane- More RM - Joke - Change feat Walle- Persona Trailer And then continue down their Mittagessen maybe?

[@LPnerd]

you have NO idea what your talking about. LOL. they do every style and do it so well. They are amazing, get a clue, you also might what to get your picture off the lyrics when watching a lyric video.

[@thisisrenren3657]

"release a whole album like this" BTS's early albums: he don't see us? Rap line's solo EPs: I see you. You see me?

[@sandys1890]

FYI some of the words that are like saying sounds actually have meanings in Korean

[@tracydowd4013]

So BTS debuted in 2013 as a Hip Hop Idol group, and they started out rapping like this. This Cypher is on their third album, Skool Luv Affair. (They have about 19 Korean Albums, and about 14 Japanese releases.)Their sound grew over time, but many people tend to listen to their more "pop" sounding music. BTS does not have Genre boundaries. By the way, KPOP isn't a genre, it's more of an industry. It encompasses Korean popular music, and the Korean IDOL system. Every genre gets lumped under it if it's Korean music. By the way, RM and SUGA came from Korean Underground Rap, and J-Hope learned from RM and SUGA, he was a Hip Hop street dancer when he was signed to BIG HIT. You should listen to his recent solo album, he put his heart and soul into it, and it's old school hip hop, rnb. They all three have mixtapes. And they will all be releasing albums, J-Hope just happened to be ready first. We think RM will be releasing his next. All seven members are focusing on solo albums. And each member has something important to bring to the group, and they are all talented. Bubble Gum Rap is a term that I never heard before you just shared it with us. I didn't know that was a thing.

[@alipotter0613]

RM & Suga struggled in their early years with their identity, being lumped in with the other generic idol groups, rather than being seen as a hip hop group and trying to bring it to the main stream. However, eventually they did come to realise they don't want to be defined by anyone and they can be more than one thing. What a breath of fresh air in music and what a way to create a massive and diverse fanbase, where everyone is welcome no matter your music taste. Also, Cypher pt2 is now 8 years old! We don't want BTS to change thank you, they are doing pretty well following their own path!💜

[@chiaseed4595]

Oh, man. Welcome to BTS! 🤣 You'll like it here. Can't wait to see where the journey leads next! 💜

[@psychokitty9325]

Trust ME dude, BTS IS known in the hip hop community overall, especially to other artists. They've already done collabs with big rap artists like Snoop Dogg, Wale, Warren G. You should really check out more of their stuff. I would continue with the 4 cyphers, then Tear (both crying & tearing), Ugh!, Ddaeng (there's also explanation videos for some of these because of all the Korean references that would otherwise be missed by us Westerners ☺). 💜💜💜

[@LoveYoonMin]

Oh this has been 7 months. Have you checked the rap line's solo mixtapes and albums yet?

[@kabazinga]

9:02 their prejudice is their own fault not bts'

[@angartsnirex]

"poppy" kpop in general isnr poppy. It's entire industry with different genres. 💯 Bts has wide array of genres.

[@samsawyer512]

Everyone flood the comments with rap line suggestions. MrL is about to have his world flipped upside down... and I'm here for it. 🍿

[@whk3120]

Hopefully a high percentage won't be put off by A different language which can sometimes happen

[@sandys1890]

They literally do almost every genre of music