Boxing vs MMA: Carl Frampton & Dan Hardy debate which combat sport reigns supreme 🥊💥

Ahead of Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou on TNT Sports Box Office, boxing legend Carl Frampton goes up against UFC stalwart Dan Hardy in the ultimate debate: boxing vs MMA.
Which sport is more dangerous? Which is more skilful? Why do the big fights happen more in MMA than boxing?
The pair grapple with these highly contentious topics and more in this UNMISSABLE discussion.
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[@kennywilkinson913]

What a frank and honest discussion, the mutual respect was strong here.

[@BrendyNew]

There's never any ego with Dan. Seems a top lad

[@ND-iz6dd]

The MMA and Boxing community needs more of this. Two guys having a respectful discussion on these great sports.

[@AaronTheGreat________]

Happens all the time🤣🙄

[@tylerleffingwell7493]

The mma community will always take Dan Hardy as our ambassador

[@BlackHeartMan_NoSoul]

nah bisping is a better choice, that man's been through the fire. Dan was gifted a title shot in attempt to build the sport in the UK.

[@columodonnell9202]

​@@BlackHeartMan_NoSoulBisping is riddled with CTE and cannot form coherent arguments. He would probably just threaten the other guy.

[@carl8752]

​@@BlackHeartMan_NoSoulbisping is too big of an idiot

[@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz]

@@carl8752 To much of an idiot that he won a world title with one eye? And is one of the top commentators in the ufc?

[@BlackHeartMan_NoSoul]

@@columodonnell9202 lol Bisping's a legend

[@HaydntheSpartan]

Its nice to watch these guys talk without ego - very rare in both sports.

[@ajwtf6539]

Boxing was amazing until probably around the late 90s when it became difficult to get the best fighters to actually agree to fight because of tv deals and promoters . I can't believe the great fights i watched when i was younger compared to these so called ppv events that are very rarely worth paying for

[@John-of4gz]

What a great guy carl frampton is and was a great fighter and a great champion.

[@stevenhickman1388]

He’s a wally

[@richardcrawford1859]

@@stevenhickman1388Wolly?

[@stevenhickman1388]

@@richardcrawford1859 no Wally

[@richardcrawford1859]

@@stevenhickman1388 what’s a Wally?

[@stevenhickman1388]

@@richardcrawford1859 ‘wally, a silly or inept person’

[@domi7583]

Boxing is a sub-discipline of MMA, just as wrestling, BJJ or kickboxing is. All the other athletes are absolute specialists in their disciplines and there they are also very likely superior to a pure MMA athlete. The MMA athlete is the generalist. But the MMA athlete has greater versatility and can fight on other levels where the specialist has no skills at all. That is why I consider the MMA athlete to be superior in general. The rest is marketing

[@beatsandthat]

The only correct answer.

[@QUAKACE]

Well said

[@cahzinarx904]

Yeah. How a boxer thinks they can beat someone with wrestling and jui jitsu and kickboxing experience is beyond me. Boxing does not acknowledge how to defend against over 50% of the arsenal and MMA fighter has.

[@slobdog7394]

MMA ‘Fighter’ 💯

[@realtruth1448]

@@cahzinarx904boxers are delusional, they think they can beat kickboxers & grapplers, it’s funny to me, they clearly haven’t grappled before ever or got a proper roundhouse to their leg, roundhouse kicks generate the same force as a baseball bat, and elite level kickers can generate force more than 2x a baseball bat, a boxer gets immediately disabled after 3 kicks maximum, therefore a video out of a strongman getting roundhouse kicked by a 9 year old and he was throbbing in pain, people genuinely don’t understand how powerful kicks are it’s hilarious

[@adzm1987]

The duo we didn't know we needed, great job!!

[@dantemarotta356]

I grew up watching Boxing and boxed in college then a friend lent me a dvd of Couture Vs Gonzaga and I've been a fan of mixed martial arts ever since. We have room for both sports

[@Jenko696969]

I think boxing in the 80s and 90s was so much better than it is today. As he mentioned Hagler vs Hearns. We don't see fights like that anymore.

[@ministryOFmuff]

I mean, just last weekend there was Victor vs Ricardo Sandoval throwing 1500+ combined punches at each other in an absolute war. I agree boxing was better in the 80s and 90s but theres still plenty of stuff to like. MMA was much better in the late 00s and early 10s than it is today too.

[@jbk19xx57]

If MMA was in the Olympic Games, it could outshine ALL the other sports.

[@tomburgess4279]

How respectful and polite conversation for two trained killers

[@Ostrava6572]

Fantastic talk between two great fighters! No ego, minimal bias just a great conversation

[@x9BARxANONx]

We need more positive videos like these that bring both sport together instead of trying to divide fans to be a fan of one sport or the other.

[@gary8032]

Two MEN who deserve recognition and respect. For both their careers and the way they conduct themselves.

[@Slim-MMA]

Boxing is too hard to follow because there’s so many belts and weight classes. Not to mention the record padding and painful negotiations.

[@Evl.28239]

I’m a mma fan I like boxing but this is facts right here the politics of the sport ruin it for me it’s so hard to follow always got me frustrated af😂

[@Benjamin-hp8mw]

It won’t last in MMA the UFC is starting to lose it’s complete control soon which will make the biggest fights tougher to make

[@dannyjohnclaude9983]

True boxing is hard sport to follow and also hard to compete but to many belts and padded records but mma is where it's more of a real fight 💯👍

[@discipleofkhorne9472]

​@@Benjamin-hp8mwUFC is starting to lose control? To who? PFL isn't much of a competitor currently, Bellator is being sold off and hasn't made money since it's existence and One has lost hundreds of millions.

[@user-uc4zb2jk4j]

​@@Benjamin-hp8mwYou're delusional, keep trying

[@M.loading]

Being a boxing AND MMA fan >>>>>

[@AthleticGamer17]

MMA has exploded in the 21st century as Dan Hardy said. Boxing is very fun but only WHEN and IF the big fights happen because of the annoying promoters and boxers trying to protect their undefeated record. In MMA we don't really care about the record (Nate Diaz 22-13 record but he is a massive superstar and fan favorite, Charles Oliveira 34-9 same as Nate) we care about good scraps and exciting moments either in the mic or during the fight. Yes the wrestling can be boring sometimes but that's because we don't really understand what they are doing or don't appreciate it but the same can be said for boxing when the fighters just clinch every 5 seconds. Press conferences in MMA are way more exciting than boxing's and the production of MMA (specifically the UFC) is unmatched in comparison to any boxing's promotion. If boxing brings back the good old era where the best fought the best then I feel like it has the chances to surpass the MMA as a combat sport but until that happens MMA is the king of combat sports.

[@pravinmodi4102]

😂😂😂

[@brodysievers5163]

​@pravinmodi4102 good argument bro. Way to put your opinion into words

[@Benjamin-hp8mw]

MMA isn’t nearly as big without conor

[@AthleticGamer17]

@@Benjamin-hp8mw and boxing isn’t nearly as big as it is without Mike Tyson Muhammad Ali etc. These types of sports get big if the players are big and then if the sport is entertaining it will get big but not as fast as without the players

[@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz]

@@Benjamin-hp8mw It’s literally never been better, it’s completely out done boxing the past few years without Conor that’s for sure.

[@Nameplease12blacknobility]

This was an amazing video. Much respect to both of these legends and their honesty and respect. Loved this video 💪🏽

[@ardnfast]

Yes, I agree. I thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@ymb9shinzou743]

As far as what is more exciting I will say your average MMA fight and UFC event is more enjoyable to watch. There's more focus on consistency... however the biggest nights in boxing always feel more special than any UFC card. UFC can stack a card with 5 great fights and a boxing card can just be one big fight and feel more special.

[@ministryOFmuff]

I dunno. I feel like since maybe Brock times the UFC has been able to put on the occasional card that feels every bit as big as a big boxing match. Like Conor fights definitely dont feel smaller than Canelo fights.

[@billiehicks4237]

Good little convo tbh

[@massie1983]

I came into this video as an MMA fan ready to side with Dan Hardy on anything, but what a genuinely interesting chat and dynamic. Fair, balanced and a truly excellent discussion.

[@CorrectionUnknown]

Admitting bias, nice.

[@massie1983]

@@CorrectionUnknown everyone has biases. Some people just don't admit it.

[@12OverThru9]

That was a brilliant discussion shame it couldn’t be longer to dig in.

[@charliemartn]

Really enjoyable conversation. Respect to both

[@Tom-oh2yf]

More of these please, fantastic.

[@abduh-vn7tm]

That Connor vs Khabib really change everything for MMA

[@ministryOFmuff]

The UFC was already huge in the late 00s and early 10s when Brock was there.

[@lalox6472]

@@ministryOFmuff Conor headlined 9 out of 18 of the highest selling PPVs in all combat sports ever. He really did change MMA, especially that Conor vs Khabib fight

[@johnnyc0811]

@@lalox6472100

[@ministryOFmuff]

@@lalox6472 He was the biggest star in MMA history, yes. But average PPV numbers around 2009 were as big as Conors peak in 2016. They were drawing good numbers frequently with a wide range of names back then whereas in the Conor era he used to do massive numbers and then there was a huge drop off for anything that didnt involve him.

[@surfbored.]

This was an excellent vid, would love to see these 2 talk about anything

[@OldSchoolBoxing1]

Great chat, the best 2 people to have this chat.

[@mboocock77]

UFC all day🤙

[@louduva9849]

Low IQ.

[@jasonkerridge8929]

100% boxing not even close MMA is king

[@user-tg8qo6nz9k]

Ufc is the promotion u melt

[@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz]

@@user-tg8qo6nz9k Yeah the top of the hill promotion where every mma fighter expires to be

[@ggb655fg]

​@@jasonkerridge8929I doubt uve ever watched a proper boxing event in ur life. I say this as someone who watches every ufc event

[@stuckkk]

Brilliant chat - more like this, please

[@Julietwhiskeyfoxtrot]

Great content two great ambassadors

[@Ozzy87]

great discussion and totally spot on

[@RyanVentura604]

This was a great conversation!

[@user-px8bg5iq2w]

So nice to see a actual chill conversation

[@rainman6205]

Nuanced and respectful discussion. Top class.

[@mimd017]

There’s honestly no debate in terms of entertainment value. I like both sports but in boxing it’s lucky if we get a handful of good fights per year. In MMA there’s good fights every weekend and good pay per views once or twice a month

[@badz4855]

Great conversation ! Carls humility is admirable and Dan is a great ambassador of the sport. Top lads they are.

[@khabebomallie9467]

For Dan to say probably what the end was cold 🥶 🤣(obviously Boxing it’s Frampton and MMA is Dan!)

[@jaywilliams6250]

I don’t think they were talking sanctioned bouts. Just in general

[@Adontheimperfectionist]

In a "fight" obviously Dan would win😂

[@Gorgonzola0987]

Cool conversation. Respectful

[@saljr85]

Great convo

[@hibernopithecus7500]

Good honest takes.

[@jamiepontone2813]

Welcome back Dan! Great discussion with 2 legends

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

I love boxing, I grew up watching Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Benn, Eubank, etc. But if boxing drops off (even more than it has since I was a teenager), it will only have itself to blame. I also love mma, I’ve watched it since UFC 2 (I think), my daughter has done it twice a week since she was 6 and has just turned 13. When both are at their best, I couldn’t pick a favourite. Great chat between 2 fantastic ambassadors for their chosen sport.

[@davidbarriuso4707]

So nice seeing them having an actual respectful conversation instead of shouting over eachother

[@alfredomanccini9786]

Amazing video , great talk between to warriors and gentlemen

[@user-cq8wn1ke5v]

MMA is getting more popular nowadays plis in MMA most people actually watch the entire card of fights.

[@jashton4485]

Ace video, some good discussion !

[@williamgoncalves3848]

Respect to both men, I’m a huge fan of both and I’m so glad we live in a world where we can enjoy both. Apples and Oranges.

[@bigc5630]

2 absolute legends!!!!

[@bonkerzmonkerz112]

Love this.

[@DECEPTICONUK]

Loved this vid

[@geoffreywhite2900]

Great video

[@demop372]

Top quality from BT this

[@Teddyisoffline]

They picked the perfect two people for this conversation

[@dickspits8819]

Class act conversation

[@mav3298]

Two proper knowledgeable, skilful and absolute gents. That was a pleasure to listen too.

[@silvafangtv]

need more cross over content like this, AND MAKE IT LONGER

[@dshannon565]

Two rational lads debating without getting all hot and bothered and defensive. Good watch.

[@barefooted001]

What a discussion. Classy and real.

[@wontforgetme123]

Brilliant, great minds aye

[@difdaf436]

Great take from both men.! No ego, just an honest take from both..

[@tannermcguire7713]

Glad to see dan as the embassitor for mma in the convo, great work gents

[@FightXScience-wh6kx]

They don't teach English in Ireland?

[@grumpyhawk509]

Love the RESPECT 💯🙏🏽

[@coldworld5]

Both top men. Shows how far we’ve come.

[@tomsawyer7429]

Boxing will always live on… any MMA practitioner HAS to know core elements of boxing. Same with the other core arts like Muay Thai, BJJ and wrestling. Each art is beautiful, but has its own limitations on its own.

[@gqwarrior6694]

No MMA fighter will ever win in the boxing ring. Well, not if the judges have anything to do with it they won't. Paging Mr. Ngannou

[@Antifelicitous]

Boxing's decline in management is probably one of the biggest factors in the rise of UFC. UFC almost always puts on better fight cards. But no sport event comes close to a boxing super-fight.

[@Slim-MMA]

MMA is the purest form of fighting we have. The UFC has 1 champion per weight class and there isn’t too many weight classes. No brainer.

[@EdEddington]

So true. The champion is THE champion. No need to wait 5 years to see if someone can become unified champion bullshit

[@johnirving3084]

And in the UFC its all under one promotion which is why we get the best fighting the best on a regular

[@Benjamin-hp8mw]

But the UFC doesn’t have all the best fighters only like 60%

[@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz]

@@Benjamin-hp8mw Pure delusion, getting into the ufc is every fighters dream. The other promotions are literally for washed ufc fighters or young up and comers. The ufc will always have the best fighters in the world.

[@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz]

@@NorthLondon-pm6xy Yes exactly, because boxers aren’t owned by a company or organisation that’s why fights never get made, because they can choose when they fight and choose how much they get payed or they straight up refuse to fight. That’s why mma is superior, it’s warriors trying to fight the best whilst boxing is greed and being scared.

[@Cuffy108]

Fan of ufc and boxing Best of both worlds

[@JordonTheo]

Love both sports man. They both have a place.

[@mitzodm]

This was brilliant. Great to see Hardy back

[@mrSam3ooo]

I loved boxing, slightly looked down upon UFC at the beginning. Now it's the other way round, UFC is more skillfull, more exciting and interesting to me. I think it will take over eventually, especially with the money and politics side of thing ruining professional boxing

[@IAmHated284]

zero ego here, top lads

[@sirteabag8652]

these 2 are a dream team, give them a show BT sport!

[@ThatRandomGuy20]

Both of these dudes are class acts

[@rickpeso7854]

Huge respect for Carl, nice humble dude def gonna look at his work

[@neocloudmarts9613]

Kickboxing meets both sports halfway!

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Unfortunately kickboxing has the pacing issue (a lot of knee+clinch+ref break in K1 rules) and also the promotion/politics issue. Andrew Tate boasts about being a 4 time world champion. In ISKA, which is a lower prestige belt than something like Glory. I love kickboxing, I love doing amateur fights, I just don't follow it as closely as MMA.

[@ministryOFmuff]

Kickboxing would be the best if it was on a comparable scale to the other two. K1 was way better than the UFC in the 90s and a decent chunk of the 00s imo, but then the UFC exploded and K1 dropped off.

[@William_zena_evie]

Dan and carl should have there own round up show every sunday morning of all the boxing and ufc thats gone on over the weekend would be a good show

[@johndarcangelo6893]

There's a reason MMA guys will get into a boxing ring but pure boxers won't get in a cage. The difference speaks for itslef. Respect to James Toney, one of my favorites growing up.

[@ministryOFmuff]

The reason is theres more money in boxing.

[@johndarcangelo6893]

@@ministryOFmuff no that's called an excuse. Everytime there's a debate about what is more effective, the boxing fans go back to "well boxers make more money" lol. As if a well known boxer couldn't get paid millions to enter the cage. Cope

[@23lnp]

Boxing is a much more brutal sport than mma. Constant punishment to the head compared with constant opportunities to tap out.

[@jamestaylor841]

I like both i think the best boxing nights when the styles match and theyve been hyped right nothing in sport is better. But i also think u can just roll up and watch mma and it will always be decent.

[@senedwoldu7893]

Boxing 🥊

[@combatcritique]

Both are great 👍👍

[@EdEddington]

But one is clearly better

[@Jeremyramone]

Obviously, the martial Art that is most effective no matter what type of Human combat occurs is northern Shin-Kickin'

[@brodysievers5163]

Either that or Southern Arm Wrastling.

[@DavidCrasby]

I can personally attest to that. Unfortunately, on the receiving end! Ouch😂

[@Dannye70]

Was a die hard boxing fan and diskled mma up until 2016, started watching mma more and more and now i struggle to watch any boxing event. Just full of boxers trying to protect the 0 and fight litertal taxi drivers.

[@jackcamp6149]

MMA for me

[@mikedoyle1982]

Love both. Would like to see Muay Thai and kickboxing become just as popular too

[@davidpark2509]

I think the muay thai element is what makes mma brutal

[@willyharris4199]

Muay Thai is becoming much more popular ever since one championship became a thing, now that one championship offers bonus’ and pays higher, fighters can put on better performances and more exciting fights because they fight LESS for more money! Also, they’ve gotten rid of most of the original historic rituals of Muay Thai, they rarely do the Wai Key’s anymore and don’t do the slow starts because they’re now trying to entertain

[@trawsoza2926]

Both are great

[@concretebollocks4167]

Totally depends on who’s fighting I like both

[@ggb655fg]

I appreciate and watch both. Gona watch ufc 294 tomorrow then linares catteral

[@ronaldworth4146]

I got into mma in 2003 because it was more exciting than boxing and I love boxing

[@Macel33]

Dis is bloody mental 😁

[@markharrison7302]

Carl and Dan two of the best pundits👍

[@atilathesonofdanubius4277]

I have been a fan of boxing all my life and to this day I believe is the fastest way to put someone down for good. That said, when it comes to Boxing against MMA, I believe it always comes down to the quality of the fighters.

[@Brummieck]

The outlaw🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@paulw6183]

MMA has a bigger reach across classes for some reason, boxing is very much still a working class sport, mma seems to interest people from a wider spectrum, that could see it overtake boxing

[@twin7161]

Spot on that 👏

[@ahmedelbahja6301]

MMA is far superior to boxing. Boxing is a punching competition, whereas MMA is an actual fight. Boxing is a shambles. The best very rarely fight each other. In all MMA organisations, the best always fight the best. Boxing is prize fighting. MMA is fighting to find who the best is.

[@2ClutchCee]

Boxings only big because of the legacy the older fighters left behind and how the sport used to be. Been a sham the last 20 years, look at showtime leaving the sport, it’s not a surprise ratings are dropping off.

[@ministryOFmuff]

Showtime is leaving all sports which means they're dropping Bellator too, and boxing got better ratings on Showtime than Bellator btw. Just like Top Rank gets better ratings than the UFC on ESPN and PBC on Fox gets the highest ratings of any combat sports promotion.

[@Ostrava6572]

I have been a boxing fan for years and and I have gotten into mma in the last 5-6 years. Mma is 100% better currently. Boxing has gone downhill over the decades. While the judging is bad and inconsistent in mma, the judging in boxing is just corrupt to its core. And the top fighters never fight each other either. Always padding their records. I also hate the fact that their are so many belts in boxing. Not a massive problem just a personal distaste. I’m ranting about boxing because I love the sport and has so much potential. But scared fighters, shady promoters and corruption have ruined the sport for me. The top guys almost always fight each other in mma since most of them are under the UFC. Overall less corruption, more exciting fights and the fact the best fighters fight each other in their primes easily makes current mma far greater in my opinion. I also love the fact that having a loss does not ruin your reputation in mma. Most of the top boxers are undefeated because they just pad their records so if one loses it hits them way harder. Look at Charles or Robert Whittaker or Chandler. All have quite a few losses but are still seen as amazing fighters and they are championship material.

[@Silverwidows]

Last question Carl would win in a boxing fight Dan would win in an MMA fight Dan would win in a street fight