How to shift Two stick 6+4 Spicer Transmission Peterbilt 359

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Showing the shift pattern and explaining the sequence of the Spicer transmissions on my truck
Shift sequence in first driving clip
2-1
2-2
2-3
2-4
3-3
3-4
4-3
4-4
5-4
6-4
Downshift
6-4
5-4
4-4
Etc
1978 Peterbilt 359
475 Silver 8V92
6+4 Spicer Both Overdrive
5.33 rears
1,333,000 miles
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[@grandpadutch9453]

My old pops used to run a old Mack with twin sticks. It was a blast watching him steer, shift and still smoke a Lucky Strike cigarette.

[@bzeprodigy1987]

Crazy, a little village in Belize, Central America was named after that cigarette. 'Lucky strike.'

[@kylederry5031]

Those old Mack's were awesome, same amount of gears forward as reverse, can do 30mph in reverse

[@JRotten]

I learned how to drive in a old B model Mack, thermodyne. Twin stick nightmare at first. The old girl burned as much oil ad she leaked. What a pos truck, but I had to learn and earn. Damn I miss that old girl, she may of been a old POS, but she'd work her ass off all day and night (and at night, straight pipe would glow red).

[@GTA_Clipzz]

That sounds like fun

[@blade7734]

That’s the good old American way

[@lex1945]

My late dad taught me how to handle the twin stick spicer when i was 15 years old. This is like a trip down memory lane to me.

[@marvinthayer7479]

My father taught me to drive a stick on a '52 Cornbinder dump truck. It had a 5x4. I was 12 yestd old.

[@kenh9508]

Best explanation ever. I was unaware that it was 2 different transmissions and the overlap in ratios explains why it doesn't immediately make sense just by watching someone shift. Thanks for sharing

[@mixermanbear.4002]

This is by far the best video explaining how to shift a 6 and a 4. 😎👍👍👍😎

[@rockingj3937]

This is the first time I’ve seen it explained with a gear pattern layout. Completely makes sense now. Great video!

[@ontargetthomunclesam3926]

My grandpa drove and owned a 359 Pete two stroke 6/4 trans he haul steel from East to West I new how to tarp and chain a load when I was 13 years old was driving the truck at 16 or so trucking and the people were alot different back then great times I'll never forget sure miss ya PAPAW thank you for always having a ear and allowing me to grow up with the greatest man a kid could have in his life I pray that you and Mom are together and are proud of my accomplishments I wish that my Son could have met you

[@kasstheman1998]

I'm sure your grandpa is looking down proud as could be!

[@danieldecherong3107]

So I have to say thank you very very much. I drove for 16 years. And like you said everyone wants you to think it’s really difficult. But the way you explained it makes so much sense. Now I just have to get my license back and find a twin stick to be able to say I drove one. Nowadays all trucks are crappy automatics. But thanks again.

[@Romans--bo7br]

Yes, "sounds" simple... however, that all "goes away" when you're loaded and pulling grades, then you better Really know and understand gear ratios. Lots of the "old timers" who started driving, years before I was in diapers (1949)... would "miss" lots of downshifts, especially in the steep grades, and would have to pull over to the side, and start all over again and crawl to the top... all because they Really didn't understand how to space and time their gears when downshifting. It's definitely Not as easy as it was described in this video... especially in the "upper" gears. Personally, I never had any trouble with them, probably due to my background, and I've driven just about every combination of boxes, including my own dbl over 6x4's, in my 50+ years of trucking. I'm Not trying to "brag"... it's just a fact of my life's work.

[@stuartmeyer2689]

FINALLY....someone that can explain two stick shifting and make it understandable...thank you so much....not near as mystical as it’s always made out to be!!!

[@Romans--bo7br]

Stuart Meyer..... just wait until you get behind the wheel of one... and we'll see how easy it is for you... especially with a good "jag" on, you're climbing a 6+% grade for a few miles on a winding, twisty road and your dropping revs rather quickly.... I definitely want a video of that. lol : )

[@daironification]

@@Romans--bo7br You sound really toxic lol... Is everything okay at home?

[@Romans--bo7br]

@@daironification...Nothing "toxic" about what I stated at all. I was only pointing out exactly what I said. As far as my "home life" is concerned, wise a*s... it's wonderful... been happily married for MANY years.

[@airindiana]

Stuart. As a young lorry driver in the U.K. in the early 2000s I drove 16 speed range changers and splitters, a weird Mercedes EPS and then Eaton twin splitter ERFs. I worked it out. Funnily the “old hands” didn’t want to use the ERF Eaton twin splitters and it was the newbies like me that got given them. It’s like anything, you get used to it. You’d get used to these twin sticks I bet. They are products designed (albeit in a clunky way) to be used. They’re not zen magic where you have to pass a special ritual to join a special club 😂. Don’t believe the hype. The only reason people can’t use them nowadays is they’ve no experience. It’s like I can’t ride a horse very well, because we don’t use them to get around day to day anymore. But I bet if I was around in 1920 I’d soon learn ha. Get someone to explain, have a go, take it easy and you’ll pick these things up.

[@vlagragang]

Basically what I got out of this video is that basically the 2nd shifter essentially makes it easier to shift the first one because the first few gears take more revs so the 2nd shifter gears are used like stepping stones in between the gears to keep the revs in a good spot so you don't miss a gear on shifter #1 climbing a hill and can't hit the gear you need in time and stall the truck because it's really easy to do that especially when you need such high revs to shift. Also dealing with the 2nd one adds more room for fuckin up. Basically another thing that's really simple made out to be special by the people who took the time to learn it. I learned to drive an 18 speed in just over an hour but it's made out to be really complicated, learned to drive a regular manual transmission in 15 minutes.

[@kerrygordon6014]

Dad was a master at this, would ride with him in the 70's hauling offroad for drilling rigs.. two handed shifts climbing hills in the bush was really something to see

[@immeohmyoh]

set those lyrics to music

[@destructoidx99]

70s probably smelt like old 2 stroke detroits

[@danc1197]

4x6 so its basically a 24 speed? Do you only use the main 6 when empty?

[@Romans--bo7br]

@@danc1197.... Hi Dan, it was probably just a "typo"... but I think you meant a 6x4... instead of a "4x6"... and yes, IF you went from 1st low split or 1st low-low (there were Many different gear combinations with different boxes back then) all the way to 6th Over, or possibly a double Over... you would have 24 gears. However, we Rarely ever had the need for using 1st low split or 1st under, due to the fact that the overall gear ratio (including the rears) was So low that in many cases you could literally crawl on your stomach faster than the truck would move... so was only used when we wanted to pull "mountains off of their foundations" as we use to say. Another consideration is... and depending on what series of "boxes" were being used as well as what the rear end ratio was... that there were some gears, especially like he pointed out in this video.... that were "over-lapping" each other, especially between 5th & 6th in the main.... but, again... it all depended on what set-up was actually being used as there were numerous different transmission combinations that could be had using various gear sets (ratios) inside each of the different types of Main & Brownie boxes. When I was empty, I would start off in either of the lower 2 gears in the main, depending on terrain and would use any combination of the two boxes I wanted to... all depending on terrain/gradients..... same thing when I was loaded... I would use any combination up or down in both boxes that I wanted or needed to, all depending on road conditions, gradients and weight.... I never used any particular pattern, in either or both boxes.. it was always determined by weight, gradients (up or down), weather (road conditions)... I rarely ever used the same pattern twice in a row.

[@herbbowler2461]

A master shifts with one hand and keeps one hand one the steering wheel. I learn that on the farm in my mid teens.

[@jarheadshooter6452]

I cant believe this is now a novelty! I have many years doing this when air switches were the new thing.

[@danaddis9679]

This was a major enigma to me as to how to go from one stick to another!

[@AJsBusVideos]

Man a twin stick looks and sounds hard. The perfect challenger for a veteran

[@timothyjosifek5383]

I started driving truck in 1960 and retired in 2006. I drove several twin sticks. My 1st was an Autocar with a 4&4, then 5&4 6&4 5&3 and so on. Finally went to 18 speed, 13 speed and finally a 9 speed. I always liked the twin sticks and missed driving with them. This video sure brought me back. Thank you so much for giving me a few minutes of the past. Good luck and keep the shiny side up.

[@Romans--bo7br]

I started in 1964 (illegally at 14yrs old), driving at night so the cops couldn't see me. Like you, I started on "A" Cars (& "Broc's) - ten wheelers with 12:00 x 25 rubber (Man.. those A-cars sat high!!)... a Cummins NHC 250 (with "backdrop" manifold & dual straight pipes = beautiful "music", especially when driving loaded in "Beantown" and it all bounced off the buildings!), and the obligatory 5x4 with 5.17:1 rears... 55 mph, flat out with a tailwind!!... but, man.. in low-low or low split, you could pull a mountain off of its foundations!! lol I had occasion to later drive Macks from LF & LT's, "B" models, up to an RSL700 ("Western") with a V12 with the Mack triple countershaft 12 speed, which I think was probably one of the "toughest" boxes ever built.... I "swear" you could use it for a "rock crusher". lol We must have Both been from the New England area?... or at least both from somewhere on the east coast... from NJ up to Maine - with all the "A"cars, Brocs and Macks. Didn't see that many of the A-cars and Brocs, much further south than NJ and maybe Delaware. I left the east coast a couple of years after getting out of Nam... and never went back, except for the very occasional visit.

[@wylderisco2344]

Im 19, almost 20, just learned how to drive stick and then I find this and I want to learn this now. Thank you for this absolute gem of a video.

[@Biglug8888]

That was a great explanation of shifting sticks. I’ve always wanted to learn but I hear the stories of having to crawl under and “fix” the linkage!

[@Bubbles8V92]

Been there twice 😂 got it tightened up so im good now

[@charlienorton2337]

Even as a 14 y/o I understood this perfectly! You’re a great teacher and thank you very much.

[@canitogalicia]

I showed this to my wife and told her I didn’t have time to text her ,,,, I was at working ,,,,,she said ,,, ok honey,,, Love the humming of the engine ,,,,, nice clean shifts.....excellent video....

[@davidflack8860]

I learned on 13 and 15 speeds. Been driving now for 43 years. I always wanted to learn to drive a twin stick. Thanks for sharing!

[@wvangus82]

I remember the puking loud 2 stroke log truck my neighbor had when I was a kid lol I've still never heard a more obnoxious jake brake lmao! Thanks for the video!

[@govtfunded]

4:34....Bubbles, you just ruined the retirement of every old trucker telling stories at the coffee shop....

[@Bubbles8V92]

😂 sorry!! I hear ya tho!

[@robertthomas5906]

They can tell the story about how they've been holding traffic back for prit near 30 years.

[@wilburshuman]

Unless you drove a 2 stick mack........... Especially with a sick 237........... Wind her to 2100, drop to 1200 to shift.......... remember my road test fondly...... (1979)...... Half aload of milk in the front compartment, shifitin with the slop........ And using both sticks at the same time........... Lost 5 points for parking toooo Far from the curb :)

[@pojo9925]

Wish trucks like this were still around.

[@wayneherl1442]

they are

[@jmadden50]

Well I'll be darned. Never really been around trucks, and you explained it perfectly for me. Simple, actually. Thanks, great vid!

[@scottlandmcc]

Know nothing about trucks other than I like Petes and the sound of the 2 stroke Detroits. Great video and thanks for all that mechanical goodness!

[@shellcrackerlover5889]

Ditto

[@carlbettag2557]

At the age of 14 I drove a Mac with twin sticks, didn't have a clue but as it was rolling I got paid..

[@boward6686]

Those were the days! I had a couple trucks that had that set up and eventually got pretty good at double clutching and shifting both transmissions (split shifting) !It really was a art to doing it! I’d like to see some of the young drivers today do that and there may be a few that could! Thanks for the ride along!

[@TheHuskyGT]

Wow! Finally! I understand how it works. It is indeed very simple. So the auxiliary stick on the right pretty much lets you split each of the main 6 gears into 4. Your explanation plus seeing you drive it made it all clear. Thank you.

[@NonatoGomesSilva-s8t]

Entendi através do seu comentário.

[@Romans--bo7br]

@TheHuskyGT.... Yes, it's all "very simple".... until your the one sitting behind the wheel, with a full load... pulling 5+% grades.... then we'll see how "simple" it is for you (or, Anyone). MANY of the old (some started driving, even before WW2) "Knights of the Road" (the Real truckers!) who knew nothing about "single stick" OTR trucks... would need to pull over to the side of the road, and start over again due to missed shifts and have to "crawl" up to the top of the grades. Diesel engines (4 cycles) by almost all manufacturers, did Not get turbochargers and passed 300hp until the early 1970's.... it was a full days work, driving back then. I started driving "ten wheelers" ("A" cars / Autocar & "Broc's" - Brockway's) when I was 14 years old - driving at night so the police would see me, hauling snow in the winter time. I started driving OTR in late 1972 with my own truck (1969 - 359 Pete), which originally had a Spicer 4016 compound 4x4, later swapped out for a dbl over 6x4 due to building the V12 up to 860hp specs and the 4016 couldn't handle it. Great times!!

[@erikbunty2016]

Essentially a 24 speed, right?

[@ralfie8801]

Ah.. memories!! I used to run around in an 18 wheel water wagon wetting roads at a sand and gravel plant. It was a 1976 Autocar with an 8V 71, and a 5 + 4 speed, it shifted a bit different because of the 5 speed main box, beginning in 3rd on the main box, we used 2nd, 3rd, and 4th on the aux. box.

[@jonthomassings5003]

#1 in the brownie would be "deep under". Use it now and then so you don't have to split the boxes.

[@artraymond8242]

Aww this animal is really growling.. I mean the sound of truck's engine made my goosebumps explode !

[@giltk8258]

I own a 79 Long Nose Pete with 3408 cat and 6&4 with 285 wheelbase . It did about 96 mph. Only had her there a couple times. Very nice riding rig. Did a lot of oilfield work with her.

[@Romans--bo7br]

That's great that you apparently still have "her". The 3408 was a great engine... even though some of them had their "issue's". My first truck was a 1969 - 359 Pete with a V12 and a Spicer 4016 Compound 4x4, that I bought after coming home from Nam in 70, from a friend of my dads. He only drove it for three months, then had a heart attack and had to park it. It was his "retirement" truck and he had paid cash for it, so it didn't cost him anything to have it sit until I bought it. He really wanted me to "make it", so he sold it to me for $10K... which I more than had from all the "bonds" I had bought while in the service and cashed in, so I bought a 150 ton low-boy with a booster with what I had left over and never looked back. I had two ext'd hood "A" model KW's after that, set up for heavy haul, also with V12's and dbl over 6x4's. I sure miss those days and years... great times, and would do it all over again... except I would have kept the 359, and at least one of my "A" Models.

[@basitn2896]

i must say you're the best truck driver I ever seen driving two shifters require an art .....if anyone calls themselves real trucker its has to be you !!! hands down your the best !!!

[@behroozkhaleghirad]

359 look+ 2 stroke diesel+ 24 gear, double stick spicer+ wood+ leather+ NO COMPUTER CRAP= a dream that I want to make it real for myself.

[@wildcoyote34]

Absolutely awesome truck ,, i love it ,, and i have one too ,, he has an 8V92 ,, i have a 12V71TT in my 1978 359 love listening to it sing

[@William1221-q1e]

@@wildcoyote34nice truck but there is nothing wrong with an electronic engine it makes where you can fine tune it

[@wildcoyote34]

@William 1221 i can fine tune my truck too , it's just not as easy ,,and i have no $25000 emissions control system to go haywire or DPF to clog , no bullshit computer to cause it to derate because it got a brain fart ,or have the ECM go tits up cause it got wet ,,alli gotta worry about is oil leaks ,, and where is the next fuel station ,,even that doesn't happen very often cause i have 350 gallons of fuel

[@1965Gindy]

Me too. That's the exact thing I've been saying for a long time now.

[@William1221-q1e]

@@wildcoyote34there is only so much you can tune on a mechanical and if you take care of your truck right an electronic engine should have no trouble

[@philosophyoftrucking]

Well that completely takes the mystery out of it. It actually looks more useful than an Eaton.

[@truckstractorswildlifeguns6648]

SWEET ,ITS A 8V92 ,SILVER ,MY FAVORITE DIESEL, I LOVE EM.GREAT VIDEO. THANK YOU.

[@etcllc3519]

God dang old 359 got more gauges than an airplane!!! Love it!!!

[@thelastchance6113]

Brotha, this was a great video. Love those sounds. So many memories.

[@Njderig]

Finally an explanation I can easily understand. Thank you sir for your clear and detailed explanation.

[@lutherfiggs1866]

Well done sir. Think I'll keep my 13spd. Impressive skill.

[@billarroo1]

35 + years ago I was a heavy-duty tow truck driver, I drove a Pete 359 with Cummins 335 with a 5&4 Everytime I picked up a broke down truck with a driver, most drivers would say, MAN I wouldn't want this job !! Then I would say Yeah But you'll NEVER fall asleep at the wheel !😂

[@TheHortond]

I bought a Willy's Jeep that had a Warn overdrive similar to this. This seems more like high and low settings on the 13 and 15 speeds. But waaaay cooler.

[@louiszierlein5814]

That is exactly how I explain it to people. It is like splitting a 13 speed only you have 4 splits.

[@blackericdenice]

I always thought it was stupid to design a transmission where you had to reach through the steering wheel to shift. Now I see it was bull shook. Thank you very much for showing me the light.

[@JCaddy007]

This guy make things so simple I'm ready to drive sir - can you plz move over Thank you

[@russvoight1167]

My compliments on a great job explaining these transmissions

[@AJmx2702001]

was always interesting to see how those worked in a truck on the road since we used a version of those offroad and they were always good for whatever load you were pulling . Even had a allison auto tied to a brownie box once that was fun too haha

[@Romans--bo7br]

AJ.... that set-up can be very handy in logging and in big Over-Dimensional Heavy Haul applications... except, that you cannot shift the "brownie" once you're moving.

[@SteveCarras]

🐶🤩🚗

[@richmoore3223]

I learned to drive in the oil patch 1980's,Wyoming about 50% dirt roads,mud,snow,ice,moving rigs. Throwing tire chain's on everywhere out in the big wide open.These old trucks often times could go where 4 x 4's couldn't.It definitely was a learning experience.

[@SuperTransmission]

Get your ear plugs a couple 3 or 4 gallon jugs of oil make sure the flashers are working for going up hills under 40 MPH. tie up some empty oil jugs over the slobber tubes you can recycle that oil that it pisses out dump back in the engine ,you will be lucky to get 3 1/2 miles to a gallon of fuel & 250 miles to a gallon of oil out of that greyhound bus engine ,The up side you will never fall asleep with all that noise & you will be real busy shifting hit the bottom of the hill going 85 MPH & by the time you get to the top ears ringing & going 18 MPH , boy this brings back a lot of memories my ears are still ringing from 30 years ago HAHAH

[@bizzboss_00]

EXACTLY right here,i had one and also its old brother 12v71ta,the two in kw900

[@genrlgreen9411]

ahhh, the good ole days !!!

[@jonsullivan7933]

This all horseshit. A proper built 8v92 is NOT A SLOBBER BOX. You dumbasses can't compare a 8v92 to 8v71 (318) to you young wanna be billy big riggers. 8v92TA damn good engine and a 435 would give a 400 A model Cat or a 400 Cummins a fit back in the day. Totally different breed. Nothing like a 71 or 53 series. Love them Silver 92's

[@jonsullivan7933]

@@bizzboss_00 no way a 12v71 was in a w900L.......maybe a W900A.....not a L model dipshit....

[@SuperTransmission]

@@jonsullivan7933 Well let me tell you something sonny boy about some junk DETROIT PILE OF SHIT I worked on many 8V92 & you really know what your talking about cat & a cummins would be running long after that DETROIT JUNK WAS DEAD billy big rigger if you ever ran a 8v92 that really ran good it didn't do it very long the main bearing journals were too small for the horse power & it would brake the rear main bearing bolts & the rear main cap would fall in the oil pan & a lot of times it would break the crankshaft ,DETROIT JUNK bankrupt many owner operators back in the 80s & early 90s 8v92s were laying DEAD all over the country & nobody wanted them the salvage yards were full of them you could buy as many as you wanted running for $1000 to $2000 The exporters sure weren't buying them like cummins- mack engines so they got SCRAPPED & If you don't think so where did they all go ,I never met anybody collecting them ,Way to many moving parts they would turn DIESEL fuel into noise & bankruptcy ... HAHAHA

[@rickdickerson1204]

Very fine demonstration. I used a slightly different sequence when I drove a 6x4 but following his demonstration here you won't go wrong.

[@FlyboythaACE]

It makes sense to me it almost sounds like when I was trying to explain to a friend in my flight simulator that an airplane simultaneously has 3 speeds indicated, true and ground speed

[@LabGuyCFI]

How do you know somebody’s a pilot......just wait 5 minutes and they’ll tell you

[@brettadams6467]

In 1976 I started driving Truck I learned on a 5&4 transmissions with a small cam Cummins 350.

[@jimwilliams3517]

That was Great! Thank you for taking your time in making and presenting this video! My Dad used to drive these when he was a trucker, years ago. I always admired his ability to drive these. Now, thanks to you, I understand what he was doing.

[@carlpassarellirealtor2671]

Awesome video. Nice easy to understand explanation. Very helpful that you explained by showing the diagrams while talking. Thank you!!

[@carloschavez5368]

New drivers today will have a stroke learning the shifting pattern on an old school semi . the Eaton 13 sp to me is the most all round transmission , that 6 + 4 transmission has the best of both worlds speed and torque would be nice behind a Cat. or Cummins in that Pete. love the old school semi no check engine light or def fluid just straight motor and now due to govt. regulations on new semi's a lot of owner - operators are resurrectionting pre- 2001 semi's and going back to paper log for avoiding the crap of "E-Log" more crap created by the government. God bless the truck drivers of America

[@Bubbles8V92]

Carlos Chavez we dont have elog up here until july 2021.... and the only reason is because Americans switched to it 😏😏😏😏

[@jeffersonmoctezuma3733]

Where are yall in canada

[@Bubbles8V92]

Ontario

[@jlmoo1]

Good to see these older trucks still working on the road. Great video. Keep posting I just love them

[@Peterbilt359]

Cool. I always wanted a 6 x4. I've got one left with 5x4. Had a 13 x 4 that was the best. And had a 12v 71 with 5x4 with a over on 5th. I once straight piped a 8v71 with a 4x4. I would haul uranium through Moab UT and people would cover there ears it was so funny, you could hear me coming 4 miles away.

[@KohalaIronWorksCase]

13X4...the Logging Package The best 1 I saw was an American LaFrance. Had a 50's Pete cab on it a Mack RQ718 5X4X2...my Hanai Uncle Boogie Lindsey was working on it for "Uncle Wally Coleman." The truck had the name "King Pau`ola" on the hood doors. He had a old 64 Kenworth Feedlot Tractor too...5X4 5spd lo hole 1st with a 1241D auxiliary box. fucker was a clapped out red color...she was old, but she had balls for a 290 CUmmins.

[@SteveCarras]

I won't e en TRY to guess how many your 13x4 had (52).:) (meaning four trans..5, dual range and then split only on upper four speeds, plus second stick, a four speed.) take care

[@scottcoleman7148]

@@SteveCarras i would run brownie in direct use 13 like normal then hit over. Didnt go much faster just gave it a double over. But i had amazing low gears. I had steady run across NV from UT on 50 to a mine. It was in 72 pete dump with wagon pup

[@ragman069]

There was a heavy haul tractor that had the 13 x 4 with 2 speed rears.....you can never have enough gears

[@martinarkelian5280]

Best set up for heavy hauling that I ever used was a 13x4 behind a Cat. Very slick and very quick.

[@alan3082]

Love the sound of a Detroit in the morning!

[@waynenichols1602]

Man thank you for really breaking it down. I really got a lot out of this video. Might be picking up my first double shift truck.

[@rlgdestroyu]

Super informative and I love watching you shift, it may have been cool to have you call out or annotate which gears you were in and at what speeds. But killer explanation.

[@viking7509]

Im a 23 yo truckdriver in europe were all the manual gearboxes are synchronized. Drove a 12 speed DAF for a few weeks it just shifts like a car only has more gears. Drove a 13 speed eaton fuller in canada when i was there for holidays and i loved the challenge. I understand the basics of shifting a twinstick and i would love to try it out one day but unfortunately those gearboxes are more rare than the table cloth in my grandfathers house over here.

[@haraldpettersen3649]

It is not designed for trail running, but for moving mountains. Nice that the old fighters get the respect they deserve. The same to the people who take care of them.

[@Scotty850R]

I'm a English truck driver never seen a twin stick before totally fascinating and your explanation was spot on and totally easy to understand must say I would like to have a go many one day I'll get the chance

[@JayFude]

When I was a kid, the first "job" I had was learning how to shift for my dad. I was also his navigator. When he got a GMC Astro 95, with a 13 speed, I was out of a job!

[@enceladusfox2247]

Thank you so much for showing and explaining that .. Now i totally understand 2 stick transmissions..

[@hardlylivin6602]

That truck has an absolutely awesome sound to it.

[@rayg9069]

GM 2 stroke 92 series, the most efficient engine ever built for converting diesel to noise ;-)

[@terrycox7168]

I miss driving them old trucks

[@PaulMcClellanmn]

Sounds so easy to drive in your explanation but still so easy to get lost in the gears . I never did get the hang of driving my dads old 5-4

[@jorgekazachek6514]

this caind of the gear box that for really a professional truck driver's!! the last of generation of the new truck driver's just know driving a automatic transmission!!

[@Romans--bo7br]

Jorge Kazachek.... Just so you know, they are NOT "automatic transmissions" (in the US).... they are, Automated Manual tranmissions.

[@robertp.wainman4094]

You are a proper driver!

[@stevenmarcinkowski8577]

The old quad box Mack w 8v71 was also good for 7.5 mpg in the 70s

[@inharmsway526]

Still respectable today

[@hamoptjg01]

Mack B model with triplex, 6 cylinder mack engine,no power steering,no a.c. those were the days!!

[@mentlegen8187]

this is literally my dream truck

[@brucestarr4438]

The only time I ever felt the need to stick my arm thru the wheel was making a big jump down shifting on a steep grade. If you didn't make that shift quickly, you lost a lot of momentum. The easiest dual box I ever drove, was a Spicer with a airmatic auxiliary. it was a 4x4 or 5x4, but only 1 stick and a 4 position air shifter on the knob.

[@rustyshackleford1656]

He really babies that Detroit most guys rev em to the governors and speed shift. Very cool truck

[@pookatim]

From a time when you had to actually drive a truck instead of just aim it.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Tell me about it. For me these modern vehicles (car, pickup, or truck) packed full of technology are actually detrimental. Real driving skills are being lost to the point where the roads are now full of steering wheel holders rather than drivers. Not a good thing.

[@b2thez305]

Can we say that nowadays truck driver fatigue is related to Automatic Transmissions? Like what is a truck with no clutch and gear lever

[@garycooper7345]

Nah, you still have to drive them. If it was that easy, anybody could do it, and this shit wouldn't be so regulated...

[@josefastboats5874]

Talk about BORING trucks too... No style at all, Barely any nice exhaust sound, and finally No shifting, no being able to control your truck to slow down if you loose your brakes and no being able to downshift going up hills... BORINGGG That’s why nobody wants new trucks anymore... Giant overbuilt POS’

[@counterfit5]

@@josefastboats5874 they exist to do a job and make money. How much money are you willing to throw away to look cool?

[@michaelashcraft8569]

In 35 years of truckin' I refused to drive a Spicer, pissed some employers off, but, I didn't have time to learn that skill, loved my Road Rangers!!

[@kenreddick6420]

Could you imagine that transmission in a CDL DRIVING SCHOOL... MAKES ME WONDER HOW MANY STUDENTS WOULD FIGURE IT OUT..🧐🤔

[@markkuhar1188]

I learned on a two stick in a DM Rolloff. I miss the old girls ESPECIALLY my Detroits in the Autocars 🏁

[@davidrathert9428]

My first log truck was a five and a four twin stick !!!!!!!😂 I loved it

[@Daves_adventures4315]

That is a wicked sounding truck!! Love it!

[@jdtrucks5936]

I drove this same set up in a 1984 Peterbilt (when it was brand new but, it wasn't mine) and the reason that you don't have to split 5th gear into 6th is because it's a progressive shift. The Main transmission gear ratio was designed to shift straight from 5th to 6th gear without splitting with the Auxiliary transmission (although you still can, you have to go up a gear higher in the split on the Auxiliary transmission. I'm currently looking for the same set of trannies to go in my '79 KW W900a model. Cool video and nice truck though.

[@Xabier_w._a_B]

Ohhh that makes sense

[@alleniyoupe2390]

Brother I love your video brought me back in time I drove a two stick Mack no where near the fun you have there after the Mack was a kW with 8v71 13over straight stacks loud and proud

[@josephrivett6158]

Driving school graduate opens driver's door on an older (real) truck. What is the first thing he/she says? : "Why does this truck have 2 brake pedals ????"

[@Bubbles8V92]

One for each gearshift 😉🤦‍♂️😂

[@bossdogg4767]

Hilarious 😂😂😂

[@WhitfieldProductionsTV]

SADLY this is how the trucking industry is going unless you are an o/o

[@JuliaCV9]

Pedal order (left to right) Clutch, Brake, Throttle

[@feliperodriguez6885]

That's in case on brake pedal fails you have a backup

[@sleepyjoeisnotlegit]

And I can barely remember peoples names after I shake they're hand. I tried remembering how u explained the shifting but my brain took a sh*t once u showed how its done. Dope video brother

[@willkastens5585]

In the late 60’s drove a Pete with a Cummins 235 and 5x4 trans

[@Romans--bo7br]

Will Kastens..... I think you meant you drove a Pete with a "335" Cummins.... Not a "235". Just a "typo".

[@neilh6217]

Best description teaching vid on 2 stick shifting I've seen yet. Way to go eh I learned when i was 14 and been trucking 33 years. never seen anyone do a vid this simple before. Fyi Uncles just gave me the key to the White and said go in back of shop and learn how to shift... A morning of hit and miss and slowly illuminating the ol lightbulb. After lunch uncle came out and fixed my thinking coached me for a bit and said let her rip boy you got this! Still prefer the 5&4 to my Big Cam IV with 13 and the 3406 400 with its 15, the N14 select Plus and the 18 is nice but Dam I like the idea of Cat and 5&4. Call me weird eh.. just Don't call me late for dinner lol

[@xreconusmc3156]

The first truck I drove was a Mack 2 stick main and compound. I would back up shifting gears. Cool stuff tho

[@bigc6436]

Backwards 35 miles a hour

[@SmartTrucking]

Very nice indeed.

[@jonnymac8925]

You did an incredible job explaining it, and it makes perfect sense. I love that you aren't trying to make it seem like it's incredibly hard to do and that todays 18 speed drivers couldn't do it because now that it was explained by someone who isn't trying to complicate it on purpose I am certain I could drive that truck with relative ease. I also find it funny that guys take both their hands off the wheel to shift when it is completely unneeded just to make it look hard. They may be the original super truckers haha

[@teresavasey1041]

I really enjoyed this, very well presented, thank you.

[@BlackThanator]

As a trucker from germany, I find it very interesting to watch how you guys handle your trucks. Over here, automatic transmission is the norm, which can be pretty boring at times. But also the interior is completely different from our trucks, with all the big flipping switches. Very nice video indeed!

[@roninseattle]

you realize this truck was built in 1978, and even then twin sticks were very rare. Modern trucks are mostly automatic with a few air-shift manuals still ordered.

[@snippittmaster]

Can’t drive off-road with an automatic. I drive a log truck 20% of the miles is off road, unimproved two track, frozen in the winter. We get 134” of snow per year and it takes a light foot and good clutching/shifting skills to get up and down icy and muddy hills.

[@Romans--bo7br]

@@roninseattle..... Ron, just so you're aware... they are Not "automatics". They are AUTOMATED... manual transmissions. Automatic transmissions are Fluid coupled and "driven" and RARELY ever used in class 7 & 8 trucks, I don't believe that the major heavy truck manufacturers even carry them on the books anymore as an option, since the advent of automating the manuals.... Huge difference between "automatic" and Automated. It's a real shame that So many so called modern day "truck drivers" (steering wheel holders, for the most part!) don't have a clue about the "mechanics" of what they are driving any more. Ninety plus percent of them couldn't even change a flat tire on the side of the road if their life depended on it, any more! Absolutely.. Pathetic how the people and this country has Declined in just the last 30 years.. especially. Also, the Only part of a fully manual truck transmission that is "air-shifted", is the Hi-Lo range selector valve and the piston controlling the gear splitter in Hi-range.

[@hugolafhugolaf]

Ironic that Europe has automatic trucks, but manual cars, and America is the exact opposite.

[@Frittrich]

@@hugolafhugolaf This has shifted a lot. Now everyone drives an automatic car over here. Drives me nuts, because a lot of cool cars are only automatic these days

[@taylorsutherland6973]

That's cool! The AUX trans is the same shift pattern as my 3+OD colum shift Ford.

[@verumpraevaleat8177]

you explained that so well...and when you did the drive i knew exactly what gear you were in just from your explaination. feel like i could climb into a pete 359 and drive that box pretty much first go after watching ur vid. thanks and good work mate.

[@scarletskunkjob9842]

kieran jones totally agree. I’m so glad I found this video.

[@Romans--bo7br]

It's only "easy & simple" when you're Not behind the wheel. Get behind the wheel, with a full load on, a 250hp Cummins, twin stick 4x4, 5X3 or 5x4, and hit a 5+% grade, and we'll see just how "simple and easy" it is for you. MANY, of the real truckers of the era.. who started in the 1940's... would miss downshifts all the time, and would have to pull over and start all over again, and crawl to the top. It's NOT that "simple and easy" in actual practice... you have to really know and understand the gearing to be able grab the right gear combination, many times "skip" shifting, while the truck is pulling down Fast, until you get into a gear that it could pull up to the summit, without have to start over and crawl. With a 2 cycle Detroit, you need to not only which or how many to skip, depending on how fast it was dropping speed, but with the fast acceleration and/or deceleration rates of the 2 cycle... if you over accelerated to match the transmission speed for the gear you were trying to get into... you'd lose more speed, so you have to instantly know which gear combination to go to, to match the falling truck speed when you got it in gear... without have to stop and start over again... in either low-low, low split or whatever gear, depending on the grade and your gross weight. I started in 1964... and have had occasion to run just about every box combination there is, plus the single sticks, and for me... I'll take a twin stick any day, over a single stick. On a long grade, pound for pound, load for load with identical power... I'll out-pull any single stick to the top, anywhere and anytime. I've done it Many times over in years and decades past. I'm Very grateful that I was able to truck during the "golden years" of trucking, when the motoring public respected us, the Highway Patrol respected us, and when we were under the ICC, scales hardly existed. I trucked with some of the nicest, best drivers, Owner/Operators and legends that ever came down the pike. There there were some real life Owner/Operator (as I was) "Legends" back in our day... Legends that books were written about, and movies were made of. Not like these modern "chickens**t" steering wheel holders of today who don't even know that the transmissions in their phony trucks, are NOT "automatics" - they Are, AMT's - Automated MANUAL Transmissions.... made for morons who can't get past a simple three speed manual... If, even that. So glad I'm retired off OTR since 2011... but still trucking... 59 years later, with a 379 Pete and a "Big house", hauling grain.

[@verumpraevaleat8177]

@@Romans--bo7br total respect to you mate. you know your stuff and your years of experience certainly show in what you wrote..thank you so much for the insights from a true trucker of ledgendary statis......"I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy" (prostrate on ground before you...)

[@Romans--bo7br]

@@verumpraevaleat8177...Thank you, ever so kindly for your reply. I certainly do not consider myself any sort of a legend, but I did know and run with some of the best O/O's (Owner-Operators) of the past... true legends in the "old School" world of trucking.... definitely a Far Cry, from what passes as trucking and truck drivers, today. There are still some good drivers "out there" these days, mostly found in the realm of "Bull Racks" (Cattle haulers), and HEAVY Haul / Over-dimensional, where only the very best are excepted... especially in HEAVY HAUL / Over-Dimensional trucking. Anyway, I'm just very thankful that I was able to participate during the "Golden Age" of trucking and the other truckers (true O/O's), when I did. We ran some pretty big power back in those days, to. Yes, I know there are some 600hp Cummins (factory, stock) out there, but the "average" power is 425 - 475hp these days, and they get the job done... but with all the "advancements" in engine & transmission electronics, they really haven't gained very much at all.... except to over-complicate them. They're basically "through away" engines any more, and a number of them are no longer rebuildable... like the aluminum Detroit DD13, 15 & 16.... they are "sleeveless" engines and when they're wore out, they're finished. The Detroit "60 Series" was a great engine...for a 4 stroke, (especially the 12.7 liter version), but you could get a million plus miles out of them, and then remann them and they'd be good for another million plus miles. Most trucks these days are quite comfortable and quiet, as they have really managed to "castrate" the diesel engine to the point where they really don't even sound like real diesel engines anymore. The liquids that they sell in "truck stops" these days... posing as "diesel fuel", is absolute crap.... same as gasoline, is. I miss my "big hoods" and the steady drone of my V12 Detroits I had in my three trucks (one at a time!), and my "sticks". Nothing like the sound of a V12 (Series 71) happily "singing" at 2300+ rpm under load... pure music to the ear.... at least, to my ears. Ooops... kinda got into writing a book, here... my apology. PS; are you from Australia?..... and I assume that your a driver, yourself? Take Care, and Thanks again Mate... time to get some sleep, it's Late!

[@verumpraevaleat8177]

@@Romans--bo7br Hey Hey, yep all-aussie here, currently living in tasmania, 58 yo and drove a Kenworth SAR tipper and dog trailer from 16 to 25 with a simple 13 speed and no guts at all. Got sick of all the close calls from ignorant car drivers so gave it up untill I took up driving buses for state-transit in Sydney from age 35 to 50. So I dont have the experience you have but big trucks were my passion from age 14 and still are...these days I build those Tamiya 1/14 scale RC trucks to satisfy my love for them...and it's a lot safer !! Used to LOVE the old Freightliner c/overs to look at and would love to buy and restore an old one. Retired now and I see all the younger blokes here driving around like cowboys and using their vehicles to intimidate plus the roads here in Tas are about the worst I've ever seen so that old spirit of comradeship and safe professionalism have sadly gone i'm afraid. True what you say about the engines and technology...and most are autos now so most drivers wouldn't even know what gear they are in let alone feeling the truck and the road. I also have a passion for steam locos and understand how each engine is different and it is a matter of being as one with the train and feeling it's personality ...steam engines would be akin to driving the 2 strokes you were talking about I would imagine..The guys who drive the roadtrains in the outback here to supply remote towns are amazing drivers I reckon. I think you should write a book...you obviously have an amazing story to tell and experiences to share. Cheers mate...BTW where are you and where did you drive?

[@LuisOrtiz-jh1nz]

thank for it video great shift 6+4 peterbilt old school truck 👍👍🚛

[@AngeloWStallone]

This video makes it so much simpler to under stand I’m only 16 my ad owns a few Mack r model and rd dump trucks and he taught me how to drive them all we got one with a 12 speed that I love driving I learned to float the gears really good I watch a lot of videos of guys that shift twin sticks with the clutch since you don’t it makes it even easier for me to understand love your truck by the way ... respect from New York City

[@nuclearbum9858]

i worked for a railroad demo company that had an autocar with this set up ...that thing would pull off with no throttle loaded with cross ties in one one....unbelievable the torque it had

[@OG_DSM]

This looks so awesome. I'd like to try one of these one day. I've driven stick all my life and the twin stick looked complicated but the way you explain makes it sound easy. I know your explanation comes with many miles of use in all types of road situations from rain, snow, ice, traffic and large load hauls. Excellent video sir, excellent.

[@dapsapsrp]

I think I finally understand this concept now. Good video. I'd like to try it at least once even though I have never driven a road tractor. The only manual shifts I have owned were cars and pickups with ONE shift lever.

[@KrisH-kp9vx]

Dont ever hear rev that high anymore... Miss that sound. Then again, I learned on a three. Drove a two for a while, then it was all 13's and 15's. Went back to it and there was nothing over a friggin 10.... My disappointment was real.

[@zeroonezerozero5397]

Not reving high at all . Check out some Tractor pull Detroits running over 3500 rpms. My sawmill Detroit is governed at 1700.

[@vince6056]

That truck sounds bad ass!

[@lulzerpyro7342]

I'm from Germany so my English is not the best and you made it understandable for me that's awesome

[@BaldDogM71]

I learned how to drive on a 5x4 it was spot of fun to drive

[@clydeft1083]

I knew I saw my dad shifting two shifters when I was young, I thought I was imagining things lol. Useful video

[@truckinfam2207]

Never late V8. Both sticks married to the dashboard. Puts that 359 Pete well over the $$$ sign. Amen Trucker Godbless