How Persona 3 Changed the Series Forever...

[@bubbletea_]

persona 3 is pretty swell :) 🖤 www.patreon.com/bubbletea_

[@totalhydration5240]

persona 3 is quite nice

[@Queenofskill]

persona 3 is quite marvellous

[@MeisterBeyondTubler]

persona 3 is quite exquisite

[@coolkidsincere1173]

Akihiko

[@Bad_Cane]

persona 3 is pretty neato

[@Neucher]

Atlus was on the verge of bankruptcy and decided to make a game about death ☠️

[@SilverJakler]

And now they're a part of SEGA... who also did the same thing lmao

[@theartcrusader759]

It's not uncommon fo example square decided to make one last game before they close their doors and that game was final fantasy and we know where that went

[@shawnnbits]

Their FINAL fantasy?

[@overlordl1]

​@@SilverJaklerwhich game Sega made about death?

[@Raidousin]

​@@theartcrusader759unfortunately that's a lie

[@maceyV]

The sentiment "Throughout the game, you see everyone lose someone close to them, EXCEPT FUUKA" is often used to critique her arc and say that she doesn't mesh with the themes. People completely miss that her resolution moment with Natsuki is built on the fact that while the cast has all lost someone incredibly close to them, Fuuka still has her parents. It's a call to action. For Fuuka to reach out to the people she still has left and make the most of the time they still have. Her resolution is one of the most important ones in the game for exactly that reason.

[@bluebay1031]

I’m not sure about that. Fuukas a great character and I do agree that her resolution is just as important as the other main cast social links, I just don’t think said resolution is “it’s your responsibility to build a bridge with the people who are actively causing you strife”

[@jadendobson9614]

​​@@bluebay1031If you're talking about her relationship with Natsuki, then you're gonna be shocked to learn that people can change. Even those who used to cause you strife. The message of her story isn't that you should break bread with those who wish to see you in pain, or cause you misery. It's what op said Also, Fuuka wasn't the one who reached out to mend things, or offer friendship irc

[@lastmanstanding7155]

​@@jadendobson9614 based take. Just wanted to posr this

[@manleyfgc7981]

Cope

[@Cheese-kz5io]

It doesn't have to be death, Persona 3 is really about life and the end, different forms of end that is seen throughout the social links too. Natsuki moved out of the town that made her realize that her time with Natsuki in school has ended, but it made her realize that no matter where they might be they are connected and also realized her persona is not the manifestation of her weakness but her desire to connect to people and see their hearts, thats why Juno's eyes finally opened

[@ny_kapec]

I have been waiting for this!

[@Sumthin_Unbearable]

Did you see that shinji?

[@moisthorny]

All according to plan

[@link_V.2010]

​@@Sumthin_Unbearable "adios asshole" -shinji

[@markeyiszra]

Who's da man?

[@MarcosGarcia-kx4rb]

Where have you been?

[@enehmzow]

To this day Persona 3 still has one of my favorite game OSTs of all time- even its version of Aria of the Soul is my favorite out of the whole Persona series.

[@bubbletea_]

good taste 👏

[@TheOneAndOnlyEli]

I love the ost

[@xbon1]

Debatable. P4 has best soundtrack and aria, so i modded those in p5

[@stargazersdance]

​@@xbon1Debatable.

[@JudgementBirb42]

​@@xbon1counterpoint: memories of you

[@putrangos]

The point that hit me the most is when I tried to understand the lyrics of "Memories of you". Its not about the death, the end of the world, or saving it altogether. It about the memories that we made together.

[@shiromatsunoki]

Persona 3 is my favorite entry of the series. The themes and some of the character arcs resonated with me a lot more than any other Persona game. It's still one of my favorite games of all time. This video was excellent and really detailed pretty much everything there is to love about the game!

[@dinasov9]

Persona 3 has the best themes and story! It's really hard to beat, and imo neither p4 or p5 came any close P3 made me care about the characters and actually made you feel as if the protagonist was its own individual, and you're going on a Journey with him. The ending only emphasizes that.

[@owkrikki]

the pacing nd gameplay has improved sm since p3 tho, it still does have my fav message throughout the whole series but holy shit u can tell the dev team during 3 was new

[@desmondgovender3142]

You mentioned the positives while overlooking the negatives P3/p3fes negatives: Bland level design Terrible s.links,lack of slinks for many of the SEES team. Cannot fully control party during combat Dumb ai Story falls flat just after midway point and only gets somewhat interesting towards the end Some of the music was not good at all. Yeah sometimes nostalgia blinds us and we only focus on the good points while ignoring some of its apparent and glaring negatives.

[@adamcerny2227]

​@@desmondgovender3142yeah, sure you can say that but at the same time most of what you said was completely new in persona games. Personally i think most of what you said is just personal opinion (other than that one slink everybody knows and hates).

[@adamcerny2227]

​@@desmondgovender3142also what songs did you not like? I think persona 3 has the best soundtrack out of them all

[@LadyVirgilia]

Yessss knock down is your friend. I love the reason FES has AI-control of party members. I always approached it from an "individual psychology" perspective, as in all the P3 members very much feel like separate individuals from the MC compared to the later Persona entries. Like the devs were going for based on the big P3 interview. I think it also means a lot that the male (and original) protag doesn't have SLs with the guys, and yet it doesn't mean "they're not friends." (There's actually a lot more I can say about this given the memento mori theme, the protag's starting demeanor, and the willing sacrifice at the end... and how the FemC route can offer a different perspective in large part *because* of how the male MC is portrayed, but I'm cutting all this short for brevity's sake lol). But yeah, it's a great point that it's not always easy to work together, even if you all have the same goal, and P3 incorporate that team dynamic feel very well. I know you bring up how P3 just feels very "real life"/organic, and this battle system is just another one of those reasons for me. Having played a lot of team sports and been in a lot of different music ensembles growing up, it just highlights that irl feel that you have to **communicate** with your teammates to get shit done. You all want to accomplish the same thing, but you all have different roles you need to fulfill to make it happen, and people can't read minds! Like speaking up when 3rd trombone part in jazz needs to play louder so the harmonies are brought out more. The player themself might not even realize that's what the ensemble needs rn. And dude yes, thanks for sharing more personal anecdotes with us like eating out in the Mitsuru section. I just want to say, it's cruel to shame people for things they don't know or have never experienced. 99% of people are doing their best with what they're given/based on their life experiences up to that point. It's already embarrassing finding out that something you didn't know is considered "common knowledge," so why be a shithead and make someone feel even dumber by making fun of them for it? "No wayyyyy you haven't done/don't know _______?!?" 🙃Not saying this happened to you in that particular instance, but this is just something I wanted to say lol. On that note, HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT SHINJI AND THE FEMC TIMELINE SHIT. YOU'RE WRONG. 😂 (I agree, the chemistry is sweet, but I **am** one of those "I think it lessens the impact of memento mori and the Greek tragedy-inspiration of P3" folk lol. I think the same about the Chidori-Junpei thing in January ngl). Speaking of P3's Greek-tragedy inspiration, the social links very much echo that aesthetic really well, since one of the major aspects of that genre is the **tragic flaw.** Sure, all three Hashino Persona games have social links revolve around reverse-tarot archetype learning how to incorporate the upright traits, meaning all these characters have room to grow... but P3 above all three has pretty much every SL have a legit **flaw** at the start. Thank you for defending Mamoru btw. You just straight up Mamoru'd Mamoru and I can't thank you enough. Unconditional love is such an interesting concept. Like I agree, a relationship is a two-way street. Both parties will have a boundary, whether they think they have one or not. Ideally people will communicate and be clear about their boundaries **if** a time ever comes when one person keeps violating the other's, but even then things often don't work out unfortunately. With that said, the concept people call "unconditional love" realistically to me means something along the lines of: you can still wish that person gets the help they need/finds a way to change someday and live a fulfilling life, even if that means you won't be in it anymore. That's my take on it anyhow. I get we all think differently when it comes to the nature of human relationships. The month of December definitely plays into the Apathy syndrome aspect of this game. There are always gonna be times when life feels this way, and this works in a meta-sense where the player as well has to "slog through this month"/the difficult times and/or boring times (whichever way a person tends to view this month), to get to January and the apex of this fantastic game. and yesssss, JRPGs have **always** echoed anime tropes of the time. SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK. It's like... Japanese archetypes will be reflected in ALL their different forms of media or something LOL. Persona 3 gang rise uppppppp. Incredible work. Thanks for doing this service for P3 and all us stans of it 🙏

[@Hello-bg8hv]

The 2 best KZbinrs that openly rep P3 Proudly out thr. Keep doing what your doing.

[@egbertmilton4003]

Too bad that the AI part members don't make for a good system. Consistency is key, and they fail to do that. The fact they try to justify bad design by thematics is a joke, you can imagine their personalities and how they'd act as part of a team just by move sets and stats along with their battle dialogue, without having to see them do stupid choices that no player with a brain would make, even when you demonstrate to the AI what they need to do. You can say its realistic to how teammates would work in real life, but coughing, sneezing and forgetting what you were saying is also common in real life, and that's not usually a main part of a game, simply because its not good sign for an experience. The death scene was stupid anyways, not just because Junpei apparently died to a regular bullet rather than something truly threatening, but because he didn't even immediately die, not to mention how much time they gave Takaya to act. Like, if he didn't instantly die, then just use healing magic. You can use it in the overworked, and nothing in the game suggests you can't heal people with Personas otherwise so that's dumb, along with Shinji's death. The Greek tragedy aspect is such a snore, considering how many tragedies were just not truly addressed or caused because the party has no brain cells. Apathy Syndrome sucks compared to the Shadowmen in Persona 2, there's barely any reason to care about this, because no significant characters are affected by the condition, nor does the syndrome really worsen like it did with the Shadowmen condition did with Eikichi's friends. It's just a detached reason as to why you want to kill the shadows, rather than something that brings good depth, without showing worsening consequences outside of it spreading. Forcing the player into slogging through boring sections of a game in order to make meta feelings only works in a select few situations like the ladder scene in MG 3 or some of the gameplay of Spec Ops: The Line, which put them to set up some truly harrowing or climactic moments in the series. It doesn't work in an RPG like this, especially not when the majority of the game barely has any antagonistic pressure, stakes, or interesting story development. As for the tropes, if they did less intrusively, or done better character writing while using those tropes, then things would be different wouldn't they?

[@drinks1550]

This comment introduced me to LadyVirgilia content and hell yes, you need an algorithm push man that’s some good content. Wish longform essay content was more popular with the algorithm 😅

[@littlegreycats]

the segment on yukari is important, so many times i'll see people dismiss yukari as a stone cold bitch when she really only gets angry when it's warranted. the game literally goes out of its way to show that she is a sweet and caring person, so when people call her a bitch for simply standing up for herself after being sexually objectified and call junpei a bro after doing said objectifying, it begs the question as to what the real reason people hate her is.

[@BigKlingy]

I actually think her English voice acting plays a part in it. Michelle Ruff is a good VA, but voice direction has Yukari sounding harsh most of the time, while hearing Yukari's Japanese voice in Q2 she sounds a lot sweeter there.

[@samreddig8819]

The best part is that a persona is the reflection of one's personality right? If she didn't care about others, then why is hers a dedicated healer?

[@muffetmissulena6540]

Sounds like a big Shenpai moment.

[@2mellow35]

​@@samreddig8819 it was very hard to not use her because of her abilities. If it wasn't her I used Ken as a more aggressive healer. 2 characters that some people hate were the most useful while playing. I never hated either of them because Yukari never seemed deserving of hate, and Ken was still figuring things out.

[@keyuke06]

@@2mellow35 Ken's also a 10-year-old kid who's dealing with the fact that he's an orphan so...

[@tabukisama4793]

I feel like not enough people talk about how Shinji literally came back from the dead to give minato that last piece of encouragement he needed

[@RosesChrist]

6:44 is why this is my favorite social sim persona, everyone took situations in a more realistic manner. Akihiko, doesn't go hog wild. After seeing the main character awaken. He's most likely thinking, "who did we let into our dorm?" maybe even; "This sophomore might prove useful". I appreciate Persona 4 & 5 trying to be entertaining any way they can, but a scenario in those games would include someone screaming, "A PERSONA NO WAY, like DuDE he can do that?". Akihiko's face is so perfect. No words, it's a real mood-setter for his awakening. The whole game is littered with amazing mood-setters. As well as, the characters never disagree with each other in the other games, 4 have like one time that happens and 5 only have a feuding moment to make a Morgana arc. 3 really makes you feel like saving the world isn't your only issue.

[@index3876]

Late, but it's also acknowledging that having a Persona is also a curse. It's not just a cool power, it comes with a burden.

[@the1whoplayz]

The difference is that Akihiko already knows about Personas. In the later persona games, the protag is always the first to awaken and figure out what it is in the party.

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

Yeah P4 and P5 feel too comical and 'safe'. like the characters reaction are predictable and has no depth on it.

[@kingbacon6563]

55:15 - thank you for bringing that up!! One thing I love about Yukari is how impulsive she can be at times. She acts on emotion, and it often puts her at odds with people. Justified or not, she's always able to reflect and realize that maybe the way she approached the conflict was not the best. It takes a lot to reflect on your actions and apologize. I really admire her for that.

[@Adcts]

Persona 3 truly is a one-of-a-kind game. It's a game that affected me in a way I never thought possible. It's a game that saved my life at my darkest point. It made me realize things that I forgot in my depression. Not just the main game but the The Answer as well. It understood what I was going through and gave me the comfort I needed. I'll forever love and cherish this game.

[@s0smaster]

Persona 3 means so much to me. I love the way it tells its story and handles its characters. I love how the game is structured and how it plays. And I love that it was unabashedly experimental. Persona 3 feels like a game that isn't afraid of being itself. It knows what it wants to be and does it with the utmost confidence. It has a very clear theme and message that may not be delivered super subtly, but is still done very powerfully. The gameplay is unique, from it's predecessors, to it's successors, and even it's contemporaries. The game overall gives you a one of a kind experience regardless of your background in media. I'll never forget what this game has done for me. Memento Mori.

[@Gracyn1102]

Well said!

[@jamienewman2993]

Ll

[@HollowRick]

It's ashame they through all that out the window because of casuals complaining about the none controllable party members and the fatigue system

[@VermilionRen]

100% this. P3 Reload, as beautiful as it looks, sadly does not have the same level of courage to be as strange, but undeniably enticing as the original. It's like the term 'edge', but in the best way possible. Watch the cutscene where Yukari is trying to use her evoker in her room side by side for just one example.

[@GoldnCant]

Having played Persona 3 in my childhood. Persona 3 holds a special place in my heart. It's most definitely no.1 in all my favorite games.

[@wolfywonder8480]

It’s really ironic that this is considered the “edgy” persona game, when I feel like P5 is much more fitting of that title with the whole “rebelling against shitty adults” thing it does

[@noisepollution4473]

it miiiiiight have something to do with the fact that you summon personas in a very specific extremely extremely edgy way

[@frankwest5388]

@@noisepollution4473and with the different art style. P5 seems to have a much more vibrant color pallet with less grey tones and stronger individual coloration While P3 seems to rely on a more flat color palette.

[@Xaychedelic]

The whole 2 hour journey of this video has been an amazing experience (and this is coming from someone who has a bad attention span). You got my sub, and I'm excited to explore more of your content!

[@bubbletea_]

thanks

[@RaggyRo]

I’m glad someone speaks out for Yukari, literally such a good character! I’ll never understand why people shit on her, but praise Chie

[@punishedsquilliam9962]

Because Chie isn't shit. They don't even compare lol

[@samreddig8819]

I have a thing where I don't address a character by name until they've earned my respect. I'm only partway through 4. But so far I still call Chie, bowl cut. I call Yukino Arthur Fleck. Because her only personality trait is that she laughs sometimes. I call everyone in 3 by their name.

[@RaggyRo]

@@samreddig8819 Honestly pretty fair lmao, I do really like most of the characters of p4 tho, so I recommend sticking with the game, but personally the ending doesn’t hit as hard as P5 or P3 and Marie fucking sucks, Marie is way worse than Bowl Cut in every possible way to me.

[@samreddig8819]

@@RaggyRo the only thing Marie has going for her is that she's a goth girl. And I do like 4 so far. Be even though I played portable for 3 it GRABBED me.

[@RaggyRo]

@@samreddig8819 calling her a goth girl is giving her way too much credit lmao, also that’s understandable P3’s story is better than P4’s but P4 has better slice of life feeling

[@discarcity]

I think this video might be one of the very few pieces of media that actually made me tear up, reminded me how I grew to love P3 and how much it helped me throughout my life. Made me appreciate the game even more seeing what made it special and how this type of media although a game can make you appreciate life more

[@erylaria398]

I was 32 years old when i spent the night at a hotel for the very first time. I'd been to hostels and motels and (cheap) vacation homes before but NEVER an actual hotel. I was on a roadtrip with a friend and he got sick and he said oh lets just stay at this hotel for 1 night. He laughed for 5mins when i wanted to bring my sleeping bag and towels up to the room. I didn't KNOW hotels had towels and linens. My parents were very poor working class. And so we never went on any expensive vacations. I went on a plane ONCE when i was 16 and that was for a school trip we only managed to pay for with the help of my grandparents. The second time i was 22 years old and going to study abroad for 6 months. I just haven't done a lot of the stuff that people my age usually know how to do. Book flights, book hotels, know how to behave at a hotel breakfast buffet, know how to navigate an airport, buy anything that costs more than a couple of hundred bucks (i get such bad anxiety i start crying if i have to pay for a big ticket item). The important thing is that people are trying to learn knew things and that we're not letting our childhoods define us forever.

[@anusaukko6792]

I was reading this and nodding along until the last line of the second paragraph, that went from 7 to 30 real quick 💀

[@HollowRick]

​@@anusaukko6792same tbh 😂

[@ohnoohnoohnoohnoohnoohno8737]

Just wanted to say that i relate to the thing w being anxioud about spending a lot. It seems that the replies above mine are making fun of you for it?? so i wanted to say this to let you know youre not alone (cheesy but true). I remember i got a panic attack once when i spotted a sweater i wanted in a store once that i then saw cost like 50 dollars I didnt want it anymore because experiencing childhood poverty made me feel guilty about having basic human needs as long as they took money to deal with My guardian insisted on buying it because i had already pointed it out before i looked at the price tag I actually felt physically sick Even now i still feel immense guilt over buying clothing and food Growing up poor can traumatize you.

[@MeisterBeyondTubler]

This game is one of my favorites of all time. It changed me as a person and helped shape who I am today.

[@thismissivemisfit]

Same!

[@MizuFujimori]

Maybe anime shouldn't be what made you into an adult? Just saying

[@MeisterBeyondTubler]

@@MizuFujimori ok

[@99stellar]

@@MizuFujimori anime is a form of art, art is meant to send a message and touch people

[@fluke7506]

@@MizuFujimori learning something is very different from letting it make you. this guy didnt play p3 and walk around screaming whos da man because junpeis arc was good.

[@BigKlingy]

The only good thing about P5's AI: Morgana's actually prioritises healing Ann over anyone else. I normally don't find the Morgana simp jokes funny, but when they're written into the actual CODE? Amazing. Yukari gets a lot of demonization for the whole 'Fuuka was pressured to join' phase. I think a lot of people are just mentally conditioned to believe the JRPG party are "the good guys" and therefore she has no logical reason to be so against someone joining, but they can't see the characters' perspective: this is a shady group that's been keeping secrets and risks their lives on a weekly basis, and they're forcing another teenager in right after she got stuck in Tartarus for weeks unprepared. lol, you and I are on the same page about Mitsuru's social link feeling like a rom-com... BUT that turned me against it as I've seen a LOT of bad rom-coms in my day.

[@egbertmilton4003]

I agree that Yukari gets demonised way too much. In fact, I believe she's more correct. She more righteous than Mitsuru. She's kind of right about her. Even if you can argue that Fuuka wasn't pressured, the fact that she allowed a 10 year old on the shadow death squad really throws Mitsuru's morals into question. Especially since she knows who Ken is to her and SEES' history. It's not like the Ikutsuki forced her, he doesn't have more power than her in SEES, especially as she's the actual leader of the combat part of SEES and the daughter of SEES actual leader. Unless, Mitsuru's dad was demonstrated to want this for whatever reason, it just make Mitsuru seem worse, without it ever being properly commented on. Yukari doesn't even properly question how fucked it is that they are get 10 year old child, an orphan no less, involved in life threatening business.

[@Pokytronder]

Persona 3 is my favorite video game of all time, so I really appreciate you being a voice advocating for it when so many people write it off. It's an absolute masterpiece of presentation and writing, along with some of the most fun and immersive gameplay I have ever experienced in a JRPG. Thanks for making great videos; I'm proud to have you on my Patreon.

[@y2m3e.45]

I'm sure I'm in the minority that likes Tartarus and Mementos music lol. They just fit well imo and didn't really annoy me either

[@Lemon-bh5ny]

Man... This video is LEGIT one of the best I've seen in the entire YT... Persona 3 was always my favorite game of the series. And it's because it teached me a lot of things... Things that I was able to apply, and other things not yet... But one day I will, and every time I do, I'll remember this game.

[@berenfontana6964]

I really respect that he was able to criticise the community's mistreatment of Yukari and called out the misogyny. I don't often see KZbinrs talk about the misogyny in games and fandoms this way.

[@berenfontana6964]

I have just finished FES and plan to play FeMC and RELOAD as well while it is still fresh. Having played it after P4G and P5R I have to admit I found it hard to like the game. The story showed promise but the low budget AMVs and bad dubbing often pulled me out of the immersion. I still stand by Yukari and she is honestly my favourite character aside from some standout social links but they don't compare to her since she has an arc amongst the main cast. Aigis came close but I think I was burnt out on FES before she really started to shine. My surprising conclusion to the top 3 is Junpei. I don't like him most of the time but his writing is so good I can't help but like him by the end. Overall I think it is the worst turn-based JRPG I have played but I have this weird attachment to the story that makes me want to play every version to find what truly resonates with me. Also I know I already said it but OMG having just finished the game and avoiding any critiques of the game to form my own opinions, it felt like whiplash hearing so many people call Yukari a B*tch and hating her and her arc. Especially when in many ways I do believe Junpei is worse when it comes to making people deeply uncomfortable and angry, without apologies either. so maybe it is my bias but the misogyny is really the only reason I can see for how much people hate this pretty incredible character.

[@maquinlol9673]

I just don't understand people saying "persona 3 has the worst writing of the franchise, persona 3 has the worst characters of the franchise, skip persona 3 man this game is unplayable, persona 3 is just EDGY cause back in 2000 EDGY was cool" this people played the game blindfolded? They even played the game? How can these people talk so much shit about this masterpiece?

[@darrenwest9091]

I dream of a persona game where the Yakuza developers handle the over world and setting. A life simulator needs an abundance of random shit to do. The Yakuza games are full of fun random shit to do besides the main story

[@Dimebag-wx2rs]

P3fes was the last persona game i played after 4 and 5, but hotdamn its by FAR my favorite. Such an incredible game

[@y2m3e.45]

P3's story and themes made it one of my favorites in the series. It made up for whatever gameplay qualms I may have. Personally, I have P3Fes and P5R at a tie for best Persona game.(I haven't played Femc route and looking forward to it!) Both games had really moving bits that made me cry too. Hard for me to pick one. I agree with P3 having the best cast too. I loved everyone! And you hit the nail - I don't think simply being like best friends is interesting enough to me or a great criteria to rank which cast is the best on. I much preferred P3's dynamic and I would actually like to see more complex relationships like that in P6. It's how they eventually got close only towards the latter part of the game that I liked. The development of their relationships. I love how you explained Yukari. She's my favorite girl from P3, 4 and 5. Thanks for this great in-depth video!

[@bubbletea_]

thank you for watching!

[@y2m3e.45]

@@bubbletea_ :)

[@ZenKrio]

55:50 - Wow yah, so I'm someone that, having played each game, liked Chie to an extent, but when my friend pointed out to me that she's actually the worst, I was like "... Holy crap yah, she kind of is". But this opened me up to Yukari, she spends so long being seemingly a stuck up bitch that I actually never realized that she does apologize every single time, it also doesn't help that Q was the last real interactions I had with each cast, and because each character mostly only gets two of their main traits, Chie comes off a "Female Ahkihiko" in that she's all "Training and Protein", and Yukari sadly gets "Bitch and C***" as her two traits, since the game is so shallow with the main cast lol. As a result, I forgot that she was actually a good person going through a lot of shit..

[@sunshineyrainbows13]

Yukari isn't shallow at all. She's not a b*tch because she calls out Junpei for treating her poorly, which is the main reason people call her slurs. She is feisty about certain things, but so are male characters like Shinji. And yeah, once you get to know her you can better sympathize with her flaws.

[@TheDaphinator]

Finally had time to sit down and enjoy this in all its glory. You absolutely cooked with this one. I especially appreciate the Yukari and Junpei sections since people are way too harsh on their dynamic; they clearly care about each other despite their bickering. The music section was also great since the soundtracks contribute so much to the tones of the male and female route. I like how the male soundtrack is more chill while the female is peppier since it makes the female route and protagonist feel even more unique. Awesome video.

[@elodis]

the yukari segment was so refreshing, you expressed pretty much everything i've felt about yukari. i'm glad you pointed out that a lot of the hate is purely based in misogyny (waifu war obsessed gamer bros with bruised egos because she wouldn't give them their romance anime moment.) i think i might have a different perspective than most since i'm a staunch girly girl of a similar age to yukari and i tend to gravitate towards girly characters. i've never gotten the hate towards her (i've avoided the answer, but i don't think that's too relevant as people complain about her attitude throughout the game). it's clear she's an overall kind and caring person, but she has emotions and get things wrong sometimes. that's human, not to mention that she's a teenager. the hatred towards her feels so forced sometimes, but i hope your video might shift the perception of yukari a little.

[@y2m3e.45]

Ngl I loved her even more after Answer

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

Wtf are you talking about, she's just a dick that attacks junpei for no reason, every one of the party has issues and grieves for something, yet she's gotta be justified for being an awful person while the others aren't cunts?

[@paz1514]

You're so shallow dude

[@marcusclark1339]

its not misogyny its narrow mindedness, to appreciate her is to be open to her arc and characterization which a lot wouldn't of been cause they were younger first seeing the games and didn't think beyond themselves, i.e empathy and thinking from another's perspective - the rest is group think, for those that know little of the games or skip around play-throughs wouldn't get the full picture anyway, not buzz phrasings

[@channel45853]

@@marcusclark1339I like your phrasing more, saying people who dislike Yukari just hate all real women is very harmful toward discussion. It leads to others getting defensive and others who agree with the insult not listening to others and just seeing them as bad people. And fanboys/fangirls of Yukari will just scream misogyny whenever someone dares not like their queen.

[@puffmain3276]

How did I just realize the genius of having the great seal cost 100% of your hp? No other skills let you kill yourself, but that's exactly what needs to happen to seal nyx

[@augustoapertile4881]

when i was younger (15 yr old) i used to think that yukari was really a btch, a really mean girl, specially towards junpei, a decade later i replay the game and come to the realization that she was, in fact a very likeable person, that was, such a strange yet, good feeling, it make me realize how i grow and how dump dump i was has a teenager

[@catloaff]

"Shinjiro is the best romance in Persona" SO BASED!!!!! SO TRUE!!!!!! A lot of people dismissed his social link as just pandering for Shinjiro fangirls and I'm glad you're not one of them. Sure, as a certified Shinji enjoyer I might be biased but watching someone with suicidal tendencies (even already planned the day of his death) realize that there's something to look forward to in life even if it's small like cooking for your friends or hearing your friend's ghost stories is beautiful. It fits P3's theme so well. Dare I say that his romance route was integrated to the theme as well as Aigis. His friendship route works too, but let's face it, it's impossible to NOT romance him lol Also I really doubt the supposed P3 remake will add FEMC's route (it's probably just gonna be P3 FES with P5 graphics), but if they do, I really would love to see Shinji as the wild card in The Answer. People who want to keep Shinji longer in combat will be happy and I think it's interesting to explore his possible survivor guilt as FEMC dies instead of him (in the NG+ route it's even sadder since she dies in his arms, just shortly after he woke up from his coma). Also Aki and Shinji solo fight would be cool. It's still extremely unrealistic considering that Atlus would need more resources to write it (P-Studio is already very busy working on Persona 6 at the same time) and it's easier to just switch MC for FEMC in the existing The Answer but one can dream

[@SomeAsian]

I love Persona 3 so much, both for the personal impact it had for me and, for better or for worse, setting the stage for major parts of what I like about Persona as a series. It's so insane just how well Persona 3 just... WORKS.

[@vileone1313]

I strongly disagree with the game not letting me control my characters, even if it's more "efficient" or gets rid of repetition; I do not like games taking control away from me period. Also I hated the stamina and that's what stopped me from playing the game. I appreciate your opinion and I like your video. Maybe the remake will let me control my characters.

[@channel45853]

I haven't played og Persona 3, but maybe if the tactics were as indepth as Dragon Age Orgins then maybe not having control would be ok. Though, DAO does let you control any companion character.

[@masternerf99]

I had a fairly similar intro to the series and Atlus as a whole. My roommate had a TV in our dorm and at night he'd play Persona 5. I remember watching him and asking him about it. Fast forward a few years later, and while I was looking for something new to play I picked up P5 and have been into the series since. Played 4 a few months later, and just this January I played P3. Another friend showed me how to emulate games, so it's onto 1 and 2. Before I knew it I played Nocturne and Catherine as well, and I'm halfway thru Soul Hackers 2.

[@numbskull3401]

i liked this video a lot but the defense of no party control had me dying. i think its a great option for someone who wants the challenge but am eternally grateful they changed this going forward. its just not a smart approach in terms of accessibility in my opinion

[@numbskull3401]

also - i really LOVE your section about yukari. she gets so much hate (especially from men lmao) in the fandom because they don't want to engage with her on anything deeper than a surface level. i love that the p3 cast doesn't feel like a forced group, i love that sometimes there's strife between them, and that you can really see the team grow closer to one another as the games events go on. just wanted to add that :D

[@Hello-bg8hv]

Come on algorithm keep pushing this vid so we get more p3

[@bubbletea_]

let's goooooo

[@connorharnage6697]

Imagine actually making me feel like trying P3 with AI party members. Also thank you for pointing out the 'exposition dump' complaint. It's complete bullshit and ever since Simply Dad's video I've heard it parroted with the same flawed points. Overall though, this game is great. I genuinely just played it because I wanted more Persona after beating Persona 5 Strikers and game had a weird effect on me. It's one of the few games that can genuinely bring me to tears and I love it

[@JKozlovable]

One aspect of the tactics system of Persona 3 that people don't seem to realise, is that each character's AI actually acts based on their personality. If you set them up into Act Freely, and observe how they act, you'll realise: * Just how freaking reckless Junpei is 😂 * How caring Yukari is. * How tactical Mitsuru attempts to be. * And the absolute machine that Koromaru is when protecting you from danger. Each character has tendencies of their own that they lean into. And if you for whatever reason need them to act differently and override those tendencies (or lean harder into them), then you have Tactics.

[@MrNightkun]

I prefer to play all of the persona series with AI teammates. It gives the characters way more human feeling. The ai isn't bad, and it truly is like battling alongside your friends. On top of that, the act freely tactic is actually pretty broken when your team is set up right for it

[@grapes9h5]

Awesome video with a lot of good arguments. For me, though I think P3 has better story, characters, music and themes than P4, I just felt P4 Golden is just so “playable” it’s the better game overall (than either portable or FES). There’s just a lot of little things in 3 that don’t quite work for me. They could be nitpicks and what not but it’s the exact sort of stuff I feel was deliberately deviated from with 4, usually for the better imo. Then there’s 5 Royal, which for me is the best of the modern trilogy on all levels.

[@elpatron4451]

I just finished persona 3 for the first time yesterday so this is the perfect time to watch this

[@robertbeisert3315]

P3 was my first SMT game, and it was the first RPG I ever played that did things differently. Most games feel like one of the Final Fantasy titles and lack in regular challenge. This game started with regular teens putting fake boom booms to their heads in order to survive eldritch horrors, and it's totally happy to watch you unalive. I was absolutely no good at it, but I was fascinated.

[@egbertmilton4003]

This is just as easy as those games, it's gameplay is just more intrusive and annoying. What are you talking about? And too bad that the first villain, the Magician Shadow, is the height of antagonistic pressure in this game. These eldritch horrors barely feel intimidating or threatening.

[@xechrono5040]

yeah persona 3 is great, one of my favorite games it's kind of funny cause seeing others play thorugh it and some say that "man this game needs a remake not cause of gameplay or pacing but it's so dated with the writing and characters." i mean i would like a remake but thematic concept about life and death, the cast learning to cope with grief, growing to trust and bond along side each other thats the fundementals that make P3 stand out to me the most

[@animeborn2]

I personally really liked kenji he's not the best character or anything but he reminds me off someone I would be freinds with highschool lmao

[@davidoliphant3955]

Yukari is hated? One more reason I avoid Fandom of anything. She's a teenager who's had a rough life on top of dealing with Junpei, I can understand why she might be irritated at times.

[@ajallen212]

The reason i dislike yukari isn't that she's "Mean". It's precisely because she apologizes so much. She says sorry so many times, about the EXACT same thing. But never through the course of the game does she show any effort or results of actually trying to change her behavior pattern. When she gets mad it isn't mild annoyance, its usually straight rage, with the occasional nuclear meltdown. And every time she expects "Sorry, my bad" to fix the situation. After the 20th time of doing the same thing and saying sorry, I'll begin to wonder how sorry you really are. Because you obviously aren't putting in any effort to keep that same thing from happening again. Update: Watched the junpei section... yeah we're gonna disagree on alot. Junpei, aigis, and Akihiko best characters.

[@channel45853]

The funny thing is when I started P3 Reload, I thought Junpei was going to be a lesser version of the bro characters that came after him but eventually he ended up being the most relatable character in the series for me.

[@youngking4114]

Keep up the good work also I would like to see what your thoughts on the mascot friends from Ps or good/bad adult relationships with the mc

[@evzenvarga9707]

The VN style of portable almost ruins it for me, I consider the presentation to be one of the most important parts of Persona, so having it gutted to this point is a problem for me.

[@shinji2898]

I always thought that was a semi valid complaint, so seeing him kinda throw shade towards people who had issues with that as “graphic whores” was odd. In my eyes, if it’s the decision to turn it into a VN made so many people upset, then I believe that says something about how important the presentation was for people.

[@koi3755]

It's honestly kinda funny (and refreshing mind you) that Yukari gets an extra long segment due to her being misunderstood by the broader community. I was indifferent towards her, but your segment on her character really put into perspective the amount of care put into each and every member of SEES. Bravo. On that note, Aigis is my favourite P3 character, and you were spot on when talking about her. She doesn't really come into her own until the very end of the game, however it is my opinion that the moments where she does shine, she shines the brightest. It also sort of helps that the P3 movies zero-in on the relationship between Aigis and the MC more, but perhaps that was intrusive towards many people who aren't Aigis fanboys.

[@camillevalencia9443]

Kinda sad I never got to experience the reverse arcana the times I played since I chose to only go out with one girl (Aigis best girl) and since I'm used to walking on eggshells with people and knowing a bad option when I see one. Heck even if it's unhealthy the persona 3 characters hit closer to home in terms of friendships than 4 or 5 ever did so it was quite familiar territory for me and was easier to navigate the best options intuitively compared to the other two.

[@stokeyarcanum5754]

Aigis is indeed best girl!

[@jadecirrus]

the way i cried over the shinji part and not in the "oh the timeline is messed up" way but in the "HE HURTS ME SO BAD I FEEL ILL I MISS HIM" way. after i played through his social link i Cried upon realization during the full moon scene, and i just. man. shinjiro is an amazing character even with him not having a proper end because he's not Supposed to, he's supposed to die, and he accepts it, but he definitely held regrets and shinjiro's social link in p3p shows that so well... im sad ok

[@mrsodaxd2152]

1:33:40 I was gonna say like I can't imagine how people could differ on who they like, 'till you said that 'bout Kenji, so now I get the point lmao, though I'm not sure if I love him or I like make fun of him

[@mrsodaxd2152]

1:52:40 I never noticed that detail, that's so freakin' cool bro

[@WeaponsRemorse]

Jokes on you I’m into watching other peoples retrospectives on video games and other stuff

[@jerry3115]

based tactics enjoyer based yukari enjoyer

[@RubenRhubarb]

King you dropped this 👑 Honestly my favourite big video about Persona 3, took the words out of my mouth on nearly everything and talked about things that I wanted people to talk about. Keep up with the peak content 🎉

[@trainerlyra3]

firstly this is an amazing write up of one of my favorite games of all time. i agree with you on so many points. it's such a strong entry, the cast is incredible and absolutely the best written in the series, and i actually 10000% agree with you on the party control issue... not only is it NOT EVEN THAT DIFFICULT TO USE, but i think it really helps tell the story through the gameplay and people overlook that a lot. secondly your thoughts on shinjiro/femc are so real and also mirror mine perfectly. they definitely got married and lived happily ever after there is nothing bad that happens to either of them again :)))) but fr, you're absolutely right. saving shinjiro doesn't go against the core themes imo - if anything, it helps solidify them. yes, death is inevitable. yes, people die. no, that does not mean we should just give up on everything because that fate is inescapable.

[@failurextreme7084]

I'm playing portable and I'm trying to play the way the game was originally made. I really enjoy the allies ai. They feel like the actual characters making decisions. Junpei genuinely makes dumb mistakes sometimes and it feels in character. Mitsuru tends to do exactly what is optimal, which is exactly what I expect of the most experienced member.

[@samreddig8819]

My only problem with portable is that the epilogue is cut to that version. Meaning the ending of the game is just straight missing.

[@RonaldRayGun-l7m]

"Mitsuru tends to do exactly what is optimal" Mitsuru: MARIN KARIN

[@failurextreme7084]

@@RonaldRayGun-l7m I mean when it works it works and I tended to have really good rng with that landing.

[@RonaldRayGun-l7m]

@@failurextreme7084 Ah, well that makes one of us XD

[@kauanjos3199]

​​​​@@samreddig8819imo it's not even worth it playing trough the answer tbh, best to just watch the entire story on KZbin. It's too grindy. And i wouldn't say the game is incomplete without it the message of the game is still the same and i might say the ending is way stronger in the journey without knowing what happens in the answer

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Persona 3 is the reason why Atlus rarely acknowledges 1 and 2. Persona 3 is when Persona started becoming it's own thing rather than just a spinoff of Shin Megami Tensei.

[@AFK-6990]

I'm about to watch every second of this masterpiece

[@vinigmoura]

My fav game ever!! I actually love the independent party members because gives them more character, we have to live and deal with them besides battle, if they are people for themselves they must make their own decisions, yes, sometimes the IA doesnt help but so does people! LOVE IT!

[@Baratinha]

omg you were at college at P5 ? I was at college on P3 got out. Daaamn its so cool to see the series evolving and changing along generations. Tnks for the video, Im watchting while working this afternoon. Cheers from Brasil

[@pluieuwu]

very nice and detailed vid :3 only played p4 myself and now im thinking about trying out p3 thanks to this 😂 also fellow undubbed/japanese audio enjoyer? based

[@shelbybayer200]

To be fair, as a Japanese game of course it is a High school you go to College is just for work over there High School is the only time Japanese students can have a Childhood as it were

[@Beastlango]

I enjoy p3s command system because it was different. On my new game plus run I ended up being the party healer and let my allies do most of the damage. It was actually really fun to have the MC in that type of roel for once. I haven’t played a game where you are the healer and not just the leader badass like every game ever. It made it really interesting and honestly seemed to matched the character’s selflessness nature more

[@lolkek6807]

So this video is actually a review of P3, not "How P3 changed the series forever". I didn't watch it till the end, yet, but I can see names of timecodes. I mean, you will speak about story, gameplay, characters and meaning of the story. this is kind of a review/analysis, not about the question in the name of your video. Maybe you will say something in conclusion, but it is 4 minutes out of 2 hours…. Or maybe just a click bait. It is a good click bait;) Anyways, I am sure video is great, LIKE beforehand!

[@emdoubleu1530]

Yeah, it seems bubbletea strayed a bit far from his intended topic. I too was looking forward to a discussion of the concepts and features which made P3 a standout experience compared to the previous titles, and ultimately led to a renaissance of the IP. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed the video very much and am grateful for the time and effort he put into producing it.

[@noxnoctisrota]

Persona 3 and Persona 2 are the skeleton of the games moving forward. The GOATS!!

[@pinkraven7043]

Persona 3 means a lot to me because it was my first PS2 game. I still prefer its story and its cast over P4 and P5 and will always vouch for its quality (I have a love/“you’re kind of annoying”relationship with P5, personally.) It’s nice to hear that there are others who find Aigis “good but not the best” character. I wish I liked her more because her importance is so obvious. The lead artist of P3 even said that her appearance is supposed to reflect the protagonist’s (her head accessories are the earphones.) But it felt like she didn’t contribute much to the cast until the end game. As you said she was just…Quirky robot girl. It just didn’t feel as organic. Personally, I liked Akihiko’s social link with the FeMC. It’s a biased opinion because Aki was my first real anime husband- but still. I liked it because it just showed how much of…Dense dork he is underneath that appearance of the “cool handsome senpai.” That side of his personality is shown in some parts of the story, but is really hammered in his SL. Doesn’t help that to romance him you have to really spell it out to him that you’re not a stand-in for his little sister. Because he’s REALLY oblivious to things that don’t further his goal to become stronger. I just like how romancing Aki gives him some kind of relief from the standards that he’s setting for himself. That he can be finally be a normal teenager in a healthy relationship. Sorry for the mini-essay. I can talk about P3 for hours, just like you did. Great video!

[@BleedingDaze01]

Admittedly I am one of those people who wonders what a persona game would be like if the persona users were mostly adult. You can roll your eyes until they pop out of your head but at the end of the day I still can't help but stand by it. A lot of people treat it as if adults don't have problems, or issues or development they need to go through, but if that were the case we wouldn't have more than half of the games we have nowadays in a general sense. I mean in terms of persona I do sometimes think the high school teen stuff does wear down on me after a while. This isn't to say that I don't like it. It's just that it also sometimes subjects them to tropes that are kinda overused at this point. At least that's my opinion. But so far for where I'm at in the video I agree with everything else. Especially about the realism of the battle mechanics. Exhaustion was pretty annoying but it was also realistic. Despite the other games not including it, in a real life setting noone would probably be able to do what these characters do all night

[@KaiSaeren]

Great video, love P3 but mostly I just came to agree with your appreciation of Mitsuru, best girl for sure, I do love Aigis (and really, the whole cast in general) but Mitsuru is absolutely awesome... I may just have to go and replay the game now :X The only thing that is bad about her is the requirements neccessary and how late she unlocks as a social link, meaning if you dont go by a guide or dont know the game really well, you may even entirely miss out on her social link, or at least large parts of it, not to mention her christmas date. And while it makes sense, its still a bit off putting that you need to be so intelligent for her to even consider hanging out with you, even if she does mean it in a good way for your future. There are people who dislike Mass Destruction? Its so freaking lit. The music in this game is absolutely amazing, I replayed it several times but I cant help but cry at the credits song and the music in the city after you defeat Nyx is also incredible, they got the tone just right. I also dont get the hate for Yukari, but in my mind it always mostly stemmed from her actions in the Answer rather than her actions in the main game because she does always try to make up for her shortcomings, it also never really seemed like there is any real bad blood between her and Junpei so I just took it as bit of a friendly banter, I dont know, I like her, imo P3 cast is the strongest of the games. And yea, this is probably the only jrpg I can confidently say really did the power of friendship thing well, its almost in every jrpg but its usually so obvious and so overt that it kinda ruins any and all feelings of danger or stakes, here yea, power of friendship saves the day, but not only is it earned but it also still comes at a cost. Also... BURN MY BREAAAAAD!

[@subb9011]

honestly aside from the ai actually being pretty competent and emphasizing leader/team synergy with your party members, i think being able to see the turn cycle of *every* person in battle instead of just only the person thats turn is next like the other games do makes ai party worth it for me lol

[@baroque1998]

Yess!! I think you've pretty much touched upon all the reasons why this is my favorite of the persona games! I am one of those folks who do love Aigis jfjgig but it's okay if you didn't really care for her as much! I'm also very glad you're not one of those fans who hate Yukari; you brought up a lot of points about her character and how complex and realistic her character really is and I appreciate it! Also same with Junpei! I will be honest though and say that I still have yet to finish p2 ... both games, so idk my favorite could change possibly. Persona 3 was my first of the persona games so there might also be a little bit of bias there, but I think for me it also was good timing when I first played it and since then it held a special place in my heart💙! Thoroughly enjoyed the video!!

[@boqk]

Persona 3 isn’t just my favorite because it’s the game I discovered when I was nine and the first Persona game I played. It also, in my eyes, has the best characters and music out of the 5 games.

[@channel45853]

I am gonna disagree with your take that Junpei didn't have a right to explode at Yukari in that scene, he is worrying about death and she teases him like the literal fate of the world isn't at stake and that they don't have a very good reason to be fearful. I think you are too easy on Yukari there, saying that Junpei was the one at fault and not her. Very unfair. The only part of his explosion that is really wrong is exploding at the protag as he didn't really know about the thing locked inside him. It would be more justified to explode at Aigis. But Yukari does apologize in that conversation.

[@grey8478]

42:01 i was sorta on the respectful disagreement side on direct commands about this until you said this portable is a fundamentally completely different experience to fes and telling someone to go to that for direct commands is even more extreme than saying they should mod fes oh and i'm ngl i played fes with that mod and didn't even know those bugs existed until i saw this video

[@grey8478]

the character and story coverage in this video was great though

[@kk_romeow]

Persona 3 is the only game I fell in love at first sight with and I love the other releases but P3 will have a special spot in my heart

[@stokeyarcanum5754]

Persona 3 was literally the greatest mistake of my life. I rented it on accident because someone swapped the cases in family video and decided that I was already home and it was in my Playstation so screw it and gave it a chance. Yeah they didn't get it back for like a month in a half or so lol

[@gitrekt3171]

the gameplay for me fits well with the theme of the game. you must trust your companions throughout and having the fear to die every time. but in the end hardship was so satisfyingly finishing the game. it's like trusting your real life friends on their decision making in the Finals of a competition (theoretically). i finished the vanilla P3 and got bored in P3P maybe because it's not the same because of the theme of the game.

[@alvarosanchez8470]

Yeah, a Persona game set in college is not a good idea for the reason you said in the video. A Persona game set in the transition to the adult life on the other hand... A guy in their first serious job, having to move to another town, living by himself for the first time. I think it could be really really cool.

[@KommandeurMumm]

Yes P3 had the jealousy mechanic, but ultimately there were no consequences to dating ALL of the girls at the same time (which is pretty weird, given the harshness of the rest of the system). Just reach the highest level with one girl (unbreakable bond) and then take the next girl over the "being intimate" level to max. Rinse and repeat. This results in the MC literally dating every girl at once and everyone is totally okay with that. I tried the same thing in Persona 4 when it came out, and the end result was me deleting my save and starting a new game, because the game called me out for dating multiple girls at once and made feel like a grade A douche. The reactions of the girls when they found out (at Christmas or Valentine's Day, don't remeber exactly when), just broke my heart.

[@3DWorldMan]

idk why people hate yukari, when i played reload for the first time she was literally my favourite character like instantly

[@AkechiToo]

Wake up babe 2 hour long persona 3 video from bubbletea

[@xLadyRaine]

I love P3 and the cast as well. I mostly agree with you about Shinji’s arc. It really makes him feel like a plot device for Aki and Ken especially in the male route. But I don’t understand how the the shindig romance ruin the timeline, when saving Shinjiro is COMEPLETLY optional. You have to go out of your way to find he watch AND give back to him. Let us have your tragic romance😢

[@heartfulcry]

i’m really enjoying this video so far, but goddamn man, you’re on deadly levels of copium when it comes to justifying p3p’s subpar switch to a visual novel style and vanilla/fes’s lack of direct party command. it really feels like you’re excusing these obvious flaws bc you don’t want to criticise the game. p3p’s little coloured shadow in dialogue options makes up for the lack of a 3d environment? this is just obviously a bizarre comparison to make, as if a tiny design choice can fill the hole left by the switch to a completely flat and bland style. the lack of direct command parallels real-life relationships? come ON. this is especially a stretch bc, if this was an intentional part of atlus’s artistic vision, why did they remove it from p3p and all subsequent persona games? i don’t wanna sound too critical bc like i said, love this video so far but it’s okay to just admit that this game and its various versions fall short in certain aspects, that doesn’t make it any less of a beautiful and brilliant experience.

[@bubbletea_]

why is it so hard to believe something you don’t like doesn’t bother me? lol. i literally say i know why people don’t like those things. the portable team was not the same team as the original, so of course they wouldn’t fully capture the original artistic vision. fes’s team was largely the same. that’s why they *didn’t* direct commands in fes. you also act like i didn’t criticize anything about this game when i stated the quirks of the AI and said aigis, one of the most popular persona characters, could’ve been a lot better.

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

​@@bubbletea_ or, they didn't because they made a stupid decision that can't be reasoned with. This is not kingdom hearts, ai companions in a turn based rpg make it literally a singular turn you have control over. I'll also use the opportunity to "attack" your Yukari opinion which is some life is strange tier bs. Just because a character had bad things happen to them doesn't justify them being awful to everybody. Like Chloe she's just insufferable and hypocritical. Yukari is a bitch to junpei and the rest of the party frequently, detaches herself from them, her inability to understand her mom trying to cope by finding a new man when this didn't just happen, he died WHEN SHE WAS LITTLE, she had time to understand her, she slaps mitsuru when she's mourning her dad when she took decades and a blue haired emo twink to get better about it, AND THEN FALLS BACK INTO IT ONCE HE DIES, she mocks junpei for crying about his dead girlfriend, then does it again when EVERYBODY IS SCARED ABOUT DEATH,"heh feeling scared junpei?" NO SHIT, DEATH IS COMING! Everyone except fuuka and aigis had lost a loved one, akihiho his sister and shinji, mitsuru shinji, her and her dad, junpei chidori, ken his parents, shinji had his guilt of killing somebody, yet they don't insult each other and actually try to downplay and ignore others pain like Yukari ends up doing, on top of the answer where the others also miss makoto , and (due to the stupid cheating mechanic) all the girls love him as much as she does, yet she's the only one that's bad enough to undo her previous development and SACRIFICE THE WORLD FOR MERE ISTANTS OF HIM! She's just a bad character because she never learns, if she only had her answer moment or only her journey moment it would've been ok, but she repeatedly fails to understand other's pain and act like she's the only one that's gotten a shit life and everyone else can't understand her and they suck. Her good moments are overshadowed by her awful moments, especially with junpei. It's so funny that you call Yukari haters mysoginistic in a series that has the common awful anime trope of girls hitting guys without consequences for random shit, can't wait for you to defend that ryuji scene in p5!

[@channel45853]

@@thatitalianlameguy2235Ken tries to kill another party member, so you can't really say he handled his grief better than Yukari. Shinji didn't either as he resorted to pills that were killing. Junpei literally snaps at the protag for something that wasn't his fault just because Junpei is feeling anxious. All the characters have flawed ways of handling themselves, it makes them interesting and they eventually apologize or correct their flaws.

[@ultima1033]

Oof. Gonna be honest,never knew that bit about multi target spells having low accuracy

[@mizzix]

It's only bad in p3, since if you don't hit all enemies you don't get a 1 more

[@LoksTheGamer]

You know, I was always confused why you removed your original video on Persona 3. However, I'm glad that you decided to take the time to make a definitive retrospective on the game. This was a pretty well written video, can't wait for more.

[@100MagicChickens]

DAMN this was good! i love long analysis style videos, and you knocked this out of the park! keep it up!! :)

[@alex-bi7xr]

Just played P2EP and thought about your P2 videos that inspired me during playthrough of P2IS. And here you are dropping content in minutes ! Thanks!

[@squawk-box]

0:25 >"if you told people these games were from the same series... i'm not sure they'd believe you" >first clip is a character in a turn-based rpg summoning a monster to attack an enemy while saying the word "persona" out loud >second clip is a character in a turn-based rpg summoning a monster to attack an enemy while saying the word "persona" out loud (in all seriousness, i like the video! i just thought your choice of clips to demonstrate the difference between the two games is a little ironically funny :3)

[@СырЧерный]

Sorry for my English. I was really happy to hear your opinion about Shinjiro, cuz he is underrated. But maybe it’s because he really shines in his social link with femc. Great video, thank u for persona 3 content

[@lusaminable]

54:08 I don't understand why this is a controversial moment. I'm a girl and nobody have the permission to touch me, no matter who you are, and in this situation even more

[@oliver6969]

It's crazy that Shinjiro narrated a whole 2 hour video on Persona 3

[@lastmanstanding7155]

Not sure I'd go so far as to call it misogyny with Yukari but there is a thing in in story telling where I've noticed with characters that have truama can either go one way or another. I can maybe see people being annoyed at her complaining a tad too much. But I've had friends like her who were also just total sweethearts and were generally some of the best people I've met so I'm inclined to look past her faults and acknowledge that she's on a path of growth. Lest we forget, she, and everyone are, teens. And as you pointed out she does correct issues or apologize and seeks to grow. But a lot of people maybe just haven't grown up themselves. But then also it's not like we'll always like everyone we meet. My personality is kind of universal. I can go anywhere and make friends. So I'm maybe a bit too biased myself when it comes to my take on her. But, personally, I think she's a wonderful character like the rest of team members are.

[@channel45853]

Yeah, idk if I support calling things misogynistic when it comes to views on characters. It doesn't lead to anything good. People the insult target will just get defensive and people who support calling other people that will just look down on other people. It will shut down debate and will get people to stay in a circle that supports their view without judgement.

[@mrdeadinside9462]

Persona 3 while not being my favourite persona game (hell I think it’s a little dated and needs a remake) is still the only reason persona is such a fantastic series, without it persona would have most likely died out but thanks to it persona has never been better

[@athavanvalli9734]

You know it’s a good day when bubbletea posts

[@dmclsl03]

I finished this game not so long ago this year both The Journey and The Answer, so this is perfect! I love this game so much from start to finish, so gonna binge the hell out of this.

[@ironbaysqiureg4827]

I'm sorry but you cannot play devil's avocado when it comes out to my ability to control my party. Sure don't give me wrong it seems very interesting. Which kind of proves your statement wrong because hey you literally said you want to go through all things to do strategies What you need your part of your deal how is that any different than doing the Commands yourself?

[@bubbletea_]

it's the decision making aspect that i enjoy. like i said in the video, choices aren't made on a whim. they require foresight and taking advantage of the other tools you're given like checking the turn order and analyzing the enemies to keep your party in the loop. the ends are the same, but the mindset/approach are different. not vibing with it is one thing. saying it can't work or shouldn't exist is because the more common method exists is just absurd. additionally, in most rpgs and even mainline smt, party members are on a mostly even playing field so direct control still feels fulfilling in those cases. in persona, the protagonist greatly overshadows everyone else. more versatile and flexible than even most smt protags who can only have so many skills equipped at a time and are limited to one stat build. this system makes it feel more like you're working *around* your characters' strengths rather than them just being an extra arm for the behemoth that is your protagonist.