Buckled alloy wheel repair

[@darylmorris6199]

Just for you guy that made the comment the rim does not have the same integrity before bent. Little education on aluminium. well everyone know why mag wheels got their name. Mag wheels were made from magnesium alloy. Today more known as alloy wheels. Aluminium alloys wheels today are made from 97% 601 aluminium, less than 1% magnesium/ titanium on higher price rims with a T6 hardness . That said, the guy heating the rim is ok .As long as the guys does not go over 400 degrees. When building custom wheels/ alloy rims they go through and extensive heat process that takes much longer that casting and machining the wheel.. The final process is powder coating witch takes the rim back up to 400 degrees to melt the coating. . This is where the rim straightening guy ( the one, few of you guys are hard on and say buy a new rim. )is doing the correct procedure. Now a welded crack can be weaker if not right alloy filler rode and 100% weld. it actually can be harder than the rest of rim. Making it less malleable. Steel rim? Yes replace it . My welding fee would cost you twice as much . Oh yeh, good video rim guy. thanks for you time t post it. like the machine.

[@thearcher1740]

1) The rim repair guy does not know the right filler rod to use as he has no idea what the rim's original alloy mix is 2) Vast majority of rims are NOT powdercoated (they are painted with wet paint). When (and if) powdercoating is done, it can be done using a longer bake process where temps do not exceed 200 degrees 3) Welding takes the temperatures WELL past 400 degrees. 4) Heating and pushing out rim bends, does nothing for preexisting microfractures. And will create MORE microfractures. 5) Heating a rim in a localized area causes spots of unequal strength which is what causes issues. Especially in a driving situation where a rotating rim is subject to a lot of flexing

[@user-ro6yx1eq4f]

just been down to the one in leicester to get my wheel straighted out what a friendly place have done a fantastic job on the wheel will defo use them again well done guys and thanks again cheers seane

[@Faizal_Khan]

How much did it cost to fix the buckle?

[@rb.867]

You have a lot of patience. Good job!

[@andyfanshawe]

Brilliant!! Loved it. Liked your patience.

[@tyroneshoes4049]

You are overtempering (softening) the aluminum that results in a wheel that will not be as strong. It will not take impacts. It will bend more easily next time you hit something. This coming from a metallugist/welding professional.

[@seanoberbichler1726]

I agree. My tip. Stop hitting shit. Lol

[@mulletor123]

" metallurgist " you couldn't even spell it and you say it is what you do .😉😉 righto buddy.🤣🤣

[@taylorhc2308]

All that and can't even give the name of the machine that did all the work for you?? The second I saw the butane torch I knew you weren't experienced in this field... but still give some props and let someone know the machine that made this possible for you ..

[@zakkrick]

Just had one of my rims fixed too from pot holes. But they told me they couldn’t fix the other one because the dent was next to the spokes and if they heat it up with fire and push it up then it’ll break right next to the spokes. They told me that they try fixing low profile rims with a lot spokes and it always breaks next to the spokes of the rims because something will give them it’ll break

[@111Thelimit]

Copper can be heated quenched and be come malleable stainless/ mild steel can suffer from carbide precipitation due to lack of gas shield This isn't being heated anywhere near the temp to compromise a mag alloy wheel. However I would like to see the results of a mag ,NDT or radiology test.

[@dohfhvhu7450]

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[@cubleycat]

i bent 2 Audi rims a bit worse than that one about 25 years ago, they were incredibly tough. I got them back in shape with a very big sledge hammer and some good hardwood to protect the wheels , they came back into shape and ran so well you could not tell they had been damaged and were fine for the several years I had the car.

[@ehabsami6208]

Did you heating them ? Or just you use the hammer and hardwood pice

[@Ravenwest19]

@@ehabsami6208 possibly they could crack if not heated

[@borky1987]

Those were probably steel rims 😅

[@user-yl1zp5kp5k]

Heating temperature must be 150-200 degrees ,but preliminarily should be heating rims entirely before start local heat.

[@ryangiddens8774]

I personally been repairing Wheels out of Tampa Florida and now Homosassa Florida 22 years and believe it or not a lot of Wheels that people think are unsafe or actually safe there are actually wheel professionals out there we are like a body shop for wheels so when you bring your wheels to a wheel repair shop that knows what they're doing they're going to give you an estimate on even if it's worth fixing

[@merlinious01]

Alloy wheels cannot be repaired, as they are designed to require differential cooling in the heat treatment process, and any serious deformity or heat shock (like a torch) will irreparably damage the internal structure.

[@saijinL4]

@@merlinious01 are you some sort of engineer? The heating isnt that hot. This has been done for many yrs and havent heard much about wheels cracking or breaking. If you think that a little bit of heat weakens or ruins the integrity of the wheel then all those millions of wheels that have been powdercoated must be no good...

[@merlinious01]

@@saijinL4 I can't say I'm familiar with the temperature used during powder coating, so I have no informed opinion for your comment on it. However, even if you bent the rim back to its original shape cold, it still has damaged the internal structure of the wheel. Differential cooling creates a complex balance of internal tension throughout the structure of the wheel rim. This gives it its stiffness without adding weight. However, these forces must stay in balance and be uniform throughout the rim to be effective and safe. If the rim is heated sufficiently, the structure is effectively erased in the location where the heating took place. If the rim is bent, the forces go out of balance along the bend, damaging its structural integrity. This creates a weak point.

[@saijinL4]

@@merlinious01 doesnt matter if you are correct or i am it doesnt change the fact this has been done for many years without a problem. Im guessing your not in the wheel industry or any industry related to wheels to understand what can or cannot be done. Speak from experience not from theory, thats my tip. :)

[@CommonSensePeople]

@@saijinL4 Merlin is right....you have absolutely no understanding of metallurgy and are putting people at risk. You are destroying the grain structure of the metal by both repeated heating and cooling as well as repeated physical stress causing work hardening. I would suspect that the reason you think there is no problem with what you are doing is two fold. 1. You choose to ignore the people who bring their wheels back after they crack due to your "repair" as everyone in your business refuses to guaranty the "repairs" that you perform. 2. A lot of people probably have the wheel crack catastrophically where you weaken it and end up replacing it as they should have done to begin with. It wouldn't surprise me if a few of them end up dead when their wheel explodes at 90mph.

[@kashifhussainihussaini785]

Bohot behtreen

[@emanv001617]

close enough is what you want. You want to round the rim from zero to .01 of an inch so when you slap a tire on you can counterbalance against a tires natural or delivered imperfections. AND NOW YOU KNOW:)

[@FelicianoBocanegra-o9n]

where can i purchase the hydraulic bottle jacks individually or is it part of the machine?

[@thomasnoon9974]

I assume its a purpose made wheel truing machine and experienced operator. Given aluminium castings are more brittle than steel, I wonder why after pre-heating that the hydraulic jack isnt left in place until it has cooled enough to enable the casting to freeze in place without stress? Instead of heating and pressing further than required, then releasing the pressure allowing it to drop down quite a bit. Up and down excessively is not good for brittle materials like aluminium - it causes stress.

[@illyasmughal9568]

Amazing.. like your work👍... Would kindly tell me the componey and model of this machine..

[@alexandertimoschuk8470]

The art and science its just an excuse for LACK of knowledge. As a forging expert, I would like to share some metallurgy facts with the uninformed. 1st) every manufacturer is probably using an exclusive of custom formulated alloy. Small addition of various elements call micro alloying give alloys different properties when cooled at various cooling rates. 2nd) when metals are forged, the grain structure of the resulting forging is altered leading to enhansed physical properties. Heating a forging will destroy the forged grain structure. 3rd) cold working metals deformed the crystalline structure of the metal and changes the physical properties locally. By understanding these principals, one can understand that straightening an alloy wheel, especially a forged alloy wheel will alter its physical properties. As a result, the wheel may be weaker and or more brittle and therefore be more susceptible to future failure.

[@VisitanteDeMarte]

Caro amigo.. Com todos esses dados técnicos acabou de dar um tiro no pé! 😮 Que é como quem diz não se pode mexer em uma jante! Nem a quente nem a frio!😏 Conclusão.. se der um toque com uma roda manda para reciclagem e compra uma roda nova se tiver dinheiro para gastar 3 ou 4 vezes por ano e se não tiver que mudar o jogo de jantes completo! 😡 No entanto disse algumas verdades que servem de muito ou para nada.😮 Desempenar uma jante a frio e se o empeno for grave o mais certo é a jante estalar como o aço, se for aquecido até ao ponto de o alumínio ficar flexível, é verdade que perde a dureza.😏 Mas claro o melhor era que não ouve-se estragos. 😉

[@sriganga4524]

How much rate of this machine

[@chuckcrooks8816]

If it were the last wheel available maybe, otherwise buy a new one.

[@ianj7313]

You can still see it hopping at the end of the repair. What tolerance are you working to? I wouldn't pay £65 + vat for this.

[@rb.867]

You would if the wheel cost a $1000

[@mohideenrajasikkander5063]

Your machine support rod 2 hole what purpose pls video

[@64158]

where u guys located ?

[@frankbullitt4556]

Incredible work. I had no idea a wheel like this coud be fixed.

[@victormildew1717]

No crack test pre or post repair ?? Probably a killer repair, as we say here in the UK, near enough is NOT good enough. If there is a crack , the tyre will deflate in moments, dangerous to say the least.

[@juliorodriguez1179]

Where do I go to learn this skill?

[@montereytransmission2125]

Are all those tools and machines your using made for alloy wheel repairs? if so where u buy?

[@rspathwar3974]

What is the location and contac of this shop?

[@trevorkelleher841]

Brilliant machine and does the job,saves having to buy a new alloy wheel ! Highly recommended !

[@jettran4465]

How much should I pay if I have a small bend in motorcycle wheel about half that size.

[@cuthroatale]

i lasted about 15 seconds watching this. heat damaged wheel, impact damaged wheel, not to mention the possible micro cracks

[@jose72863]

preço para Brasil e como conseguir comprar pode me ajudar?

[@jose72863]

meu zap [phone]

[@Robert_Wolf]

if the heat is sufficient to make the metal malleable but not enough to make it brittle then this type of repair is not an issue. To get heat damage you would ahve to heat the alloy well over 1000 celcius to make it brittle. To do that the whole wheel has to be hot as the rest of the wheel acts as a heatsink. if the metal is not hot enough it will create microfractures. Once you have done this procedure a few time you can feel with the tools when the metal has the right heat. Done properly for a medium term repair it is fine.

[@konjiki240sx]

I do alot of aluminum fabrication. That torch doesn't put out enough heat to damage the wheel(at least it would be very difficult to pull it off). Aluminums thermal conductivity is very high so the mass present in a wheel will be working against the torch sucking heat away from the heat effect zone. (this is why heatsinks are often made out of aluminum). Robert Wolf hit the nail on the head.

[@VictorBartolome-k3r]

Saan po sir ang location nyo po

[@biangbiangmein5150]

Holy shit so many internet engineers

[@merlinious01]

I understand your sentiment, but amongst these internet engineers are a few actual engineers. Alloy wheels, once deformed (especially to this extent) cannot be restored to original condition. Whilst you might be able to bend it back into shape, and it might seem to work fine, it is substantially weakened. This is because alloy wheels gain much of their strength through differential cooling in the heat treatment process. There are countless vectors of tension and compression in balance with eachother throughout the crystalline structure in the wheel. If you reheat, or even bend, the wheel then those become unbalanced. Imagine two springs, one pushing while one is pulling with equal force. They are in balance, and are quite rigid. If you distort one of those springs, the system becomes unbalanced and susceptible to catastrophic failure. Once an alloy wheel is bent, it is recycling. It is not safe to reuse. Its metallurgical properties have been skewed. I cannot speak to steel wheels, as they are more forgiving in repair.

[@MP_pov]

For normal real life car use driving within speed limits, this will be just fine with balancing after tyre is fitted. Nobody will be able to tell the difference. You're far more likely to have a tyre failure than a wheel failure. But I wouldn't go charging 150mph on the autobahn... How do you fix a wheel that's buckled at the hub as opposed to the rim? Is there a different machine?

[@taylorhc2308]

Ive repaired more than a few drag rims that have since seen 200+ mph... you can most definitely repair a rim to at least if not above factory standards.

[@SunilKumar-yq9jo]

Bhai apna address to btao kha per h shop

[@imtiazzaidi149]

I want to buy this machine for PK. how much price and shipping charges ?

[@Jasho-Beam]

Heating and straightening the wheel takes the stress out of the aluminium and returns it back to its original condition. Heat treating to normalise and strengthen metal is called annealing

[@tjn2254]

Except you make it soft when annealing

[@magster65]

Almost there. A bit more work on the bead and it's good to go.

[@Classic.Car.Restorations.]

You are annealing the aluminum, that area will be soft, and will not take any impact. Not to mention the micro cracks from original damage .

[@scotth2292]

Annealing softens the metal..

[@sebastianochenkowski2665]

This is aluminium man it ls doesn't work same as steel. Aluminium is soft when is hot only

[@taurus66]

i think you need a bigger torch than the cigar lighter you have

[@S3dINS]

Was going to say the same thing. The thermal conductivity of aluminium and magnesium is so good that this torch will do little more than warm the alloy before the heat dissipates through the rest of the wheel.

[@OGJSmith23]

I’m just here to listen to the Fleetwood Mac theme song.

[@mariusfauru]

Relax and enjoy the video people! He looks like he knows what he is doing! + he did quite a good job Or at least usable!

[@gustavogustavo9858]

Peguei uma marreta um pedaço de caibro e um pano e marretei até ir para o lugar . ficou ótimo.

[@tujuhkebatinanpendekar.8812]

For those who watch this video don't ever make or repair your alloy rim due actually when you hear the alloy it will be crack inside it.To danger to used it due to break when your car or tyre breaking the hole...All family die..car wheel is not expensive just buy a new.

[@pughateseverything3823]

How much does something like this repair cost?

[@TazzyBoy917]

$65+

[@manuelbalderas6149]

Sigue desnivelado.... Solo se está reparando la seja del rin....

[@sajadbhai67]

Where can I get this machine from?

[@borky1987]

You just need a heat source and a bottle jack 🤷‍♂️

[@fredflintstone2077]

10 mins of watching someone with a blowtorch heating a wheel then taking so long to find the correct part that the wheel has cooled down again..

[@wheelrepairmachine]

Very nice

[@ldragosro]

With naked eye looks oook ... at high speed it's a different story

[@tjn2254]

All the know it all clowns in the comment section 😭

[@cognac8297]

Your the clown that bent your wheels

[@tjn2254]

@@cognac8297 your the clown that bent your dick

[@sergioverigni4921]

11:02 Immagino uno che guida con quei cerchi a 130 km/h 💀

[@gordbaker896]

Hang damaged wheels on the wall. Makes a good hose hanger. Never repair them.

[@darylmorris6199]

Oh yeh, one more thing . When repairing a alloy rim never hit it with a hammer. It can and will cause micro fractures .

[@aaronreihl39]

It was likely riddled with micro fractures before it even rolled into this shop

[@OverlandTT]

I'm not convinced after knowing of the heat treatment for new wheels that this method seine sly compromises the strength and overall integrity.

[@merlinious01]

It does compromise the structural integrity of the wheel. This wheel is unsafe.

[@drob2959]

Do you offer 24" wheel barrel replacement

[@willfavre7567]

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG?!

[@tomislavjalsovec97]

he is trying, but a long way from a expert.. the whole process is wrong from start to finish....

[@GrimReefer1983]

Why are you watching a video on how to do it if youre such an expert?

[@markjaccson1780]

Good job bro, even a brand new rim is not 100 percent straight because tires are not always perfect

[@ryangiddens8774]

The thing I see a lot of which two guys Garage on speed vision shows you their dial indicator run-out most these guys that straighten wheels just show you the bend that disappears but they don't actually put a dial indicator gauge on it to show you that it runs out within twenty thousands of an inch that's the key and of course if the metals to stress then yes it is no good but it can be stressed and still used

[@Antony_Jenner]

If that wheel failed in the future and someone got killed do you think your insurance company would pay out, Ummmmm don't think so... PS the lack of crack testing is a worry too.....

[@مقاطعمتنوعة-ت4ن]

They wouldn't know about the repair

[@technicalblog4656]

Great 👍

[@paulanderton9424]

The funny thing is, how can you tell if the used car you bought has had a repair? You guys commenting on the doom and gloom side coyld be driving one yourself or one of your family. Go figure!

[@johntaylor5496]

use the tip of the flame it is the hottest part.... did you not do science??????

[@dirkscott9064]

He's not trying to MELT the metal, only soften it...

[@raihanputera7513]

Here indonesia we do it manual, useing skill not tools

[@daviddevos9444]

raihan putera okay man

[@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488]

Too much heat in one area. I'd rather save for a replacement

[@Dzralph]

I would like the name of machine.

[@ramrajpanthukalathil1601]

Blow torch

[@anilsha3981]

What to rat by machine$

[@mr.intolerance]

forbidden in germany for good reasons

[@2011Transformersdotm]

Boyd Rice no it’s not, aluklinik has the permission to repair damage like this and they give 10 years warranty

[@tisoy909]

Now you're ready to throw it in the garbage!

[@dawidczerniak5177]

Still not round 😐

[@roellim1101]

Galeng ah.

[@rushan313]

Нельзя так сильно греть металл потеряет прочность

[@jose72863]

boa noite amigo qual preço para Brasil?,

[@guylarabie8229]

A sound track with a narrative would add interest and understanding to the process.

[@driveinautocentres3516]

Average wheel is £65.00

[@federicoruiz2733]

Bien gracias

[@omeroquendo348]

no es buena idea canlentar el rin teniendo PEGAMENTO, SE RECOMIENDA QUITAR EL PEGAMENTO Y LUEGO CALENTAR .SOY DE TECNORIM,

[@wayneguy5659]

Would you want your family to ride in a car with this wheel on it. I wouldn't.

[@ИльнурХайрутдинов-х8в]

Мне одному показалось диск все равно бьёт?

[@silver45470]

Нет, тебе не показалось. Присмотревшись можно увидеть, что контур, даже после работы, всё равно кривой.

[@amyventuliro1233]

Loc po my papa repaiir po ako.

[@Shinomontag_Zaporizhzhia]

все равно кривой и перегретый диск работа не очень

[@alabar9795]

All I'd say is it needed much longer heating up. And heat it up from underneath n scrub that black gunk off

[@raihanputera7513]

Terlalu lama bos Klo kita 5 menit kelar

[@derekmacias]

im interested buy the machine.

[@Hadachii]

too hot, it leaves too much

[@Aisyah3778]

hebat.... saya ingin coba

[@albaba5617]

Mas Joko, susah mas, klo tekanne trlalu d paksa malah bisa retak, d bngkel saya punya alat itu

[@jeandelcid7692]

Still bend🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ИлюшаИванов-ч1н]

ну это ты выравнивал край диска,а внутри яйцо???

[@user-lt2ky6ho2r]

This kind of wheel i rather put them with kalesa lol..

[@fredsalfa]

Thats incredible

[@dekaos88]

This is a old machine for do that.... jajajaj my machine heat and the same expand the wheels restore the wheels at 99.99%

[@alexasprey2123]

which machine?

[@brianlaugharne3302]

Straightening is one thing structural integrity is another these wheels have an aluminium alloy material which is crystalline in its make up in structure having done small welding repairs on wheels of this type you find the cracks extend way ahead of the visual crack quite a bit so after a repair of the type in this video only a non destructive test i.e ex ray of the damaged area would satisfy me after re true of the rim I dear say the insurance company would want nothing to do with it, also the unknown stresses and punishment this will take in operation let alone speeds reached and side loads make using this with children and other loved ones on board nothing more than Russian roulette, the repairer better have a good insurance company that protects his business and home because he will loose the lot and his liberty in the event of a fatality or serious injury , even a mediocre solicitor would win that case in this day and age. Repairing mechanical items are ok but depending on their use and application, my comments in no way attempt to question the repairers skill or ability but only his wisdom in this claim culture and society we live in today and the safety angle.

[@ryoamora8655]

Cool story bro

[@rahmatullahmowlabaccas7597]

Brian Laugharne .

[@albaniansk8er]

That is probably a $35 repair instead of a $200 New wheel

[@adrianfontan4966]

Oli B In Europe it cost around 35 or 45€ the full repair.

[@chrispesta4068]

My new wheel cost $310 and is super shiny

[@armandolerose3234]

Ma è possibile che vedo cose allucinanti non ce ne uno che sa scaldare l'alluminio andate a scuola non si può scaldare come fate voi l'alluminio

[@skillz1855]

This is the guy a want on my wheels

[@rasheedalwazier6193]

Smart.....

[@PhillipYewTree]

Awful music. What does that have to do with a wheel?

[@ИльнурХайрутдинов-х8в]

Русские 2019 есть ?

[@АльбертНур-ь7ц]

😁 АльхамдуЛлилях карп бетердем

[@ИльнурХайрутдинов-х8в]

@@АльбертНур-ь7ц Ас саляму алейкум брат Маш Аллах

[@АльбертНур-ь7ц]

Уалейкум ассалям уа рахматуллахи уа баракатуху брат! Я очень рад! كيف حالك (каифа халика?)

[@ИльнурХайрутдинов-х8в]

@@АльбертНур-ь7ц бихайрин альхамду ллилях братым

[@ИльнурХайрутдинов-х8в]

@@АльбертНур-ь7ц уа кайфа халука Анта?

[@everettpangle1861]

A horrible way to fix a bent rim just saying.

[@Hadachii]

still defective

[@ramrajpanthukalathil1601]

Your attitude ?