Curb Rash and Wheel Scuff Repair: Behind the Scenes

[@esobeegarage]

Larry, it's truly such a joy to see you "living the dream" by blending your profession with your passion. And look - in the process you've even managed to score your dream car! You truly are an inspiration to both detailers and common folk alike.

[@mec04250730]

For everyone worried about the safety of the guys at Proformance. Everyone that works at the shop wears respirators and goggles. They all were excited to be featured in an Ammo video, and wanted their faces shown. Thank you for worrying, but we definitely work safe.

[@hooktrunk]

I was worried as well. Thanks for letting us know. Beautiful job guys!

[@swingmanic]

Yeah!..I was a little concerned!..I know 2 pack paint is nasty stuff, wasn't so sure about powder coat, but either way the dust can't be good for you...Great job!!

[@daej312]

Still scared for you guys, but I must say, your work is excellent.

[@francoalfaro7750]

Where are these brothers located?....

[@on-site4094]

Excellent finish great shop

[@pjfan173]

Just rewatched this one. So good to see the pride they take in their work.

[@No-Gumph]

Wow. Thank you for the behind the scenes. The work they do is 10 times better than what I have experienced in the UK from the 4 different refurbishers that I have used. The clarity and evenness of finish is astounding. Another great video. Thanks!

[@davidives7997]

Couldn't agree more. Couple months down the line £200/300 later, paint flakes off. Though initially looks good. Very disappointing.

[@Lethalweaponn]

It amazes me the level of professionalism and attention to detail you get when a camera is recording. This applies to any business not just the auto industry.

[@Farseer1995]

I always get excited when I see a new Ammo NYC video.

[@paulff3]

Looks like an excellent wheel shop. Love seeing shops that care about their work and the customer's property. So hard to find!!!

[@OrondeRobinson]

What should I look for in a repair shop to ensure I'm getting a quality repair like shown in this video?

[@EpicStays]

Bump

[@blackfish4674]

bump x2

[@TheRealChilly]

I was considering powder coating my oem rims to a high gloss black, but seeing how beautiful they look after just having the paint stripped and the suggestion they offer to get that look is more tempting.

[@aaronanderson3165]

Could you show how he repaired the machine cut rims?

[@KRBY555]

yes! e46 m3 here. It's a super fear curbing my mint OEM 19s

[@KRBY555]

andrew smith yeah is there anything else you can do ?

[@JackoTJK]

​@@KRBY555 only other option would be to build it up and machine it back down

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

he machine cut them.

[@toutfairesoi-meme7977]

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[@samslichter3566]

I recently curbed 2 of my C3 corvette wheels and it was neat to see what process they’ll go through if I get them fixed.

[@AJ_Adventures99]

Great video as always larry. You're literally my hero. I thought i was the only one extremely particular about detailing. Thanks

[@Neur0bit]

This is just so therapeutic. I can watch all day long... Thanks for sharing!!

[@rmp5s]

Man...that strip tank...it's like friggin "dip" from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. lol That thing is a hit man's body disposal DREAM!!

[@tysonisham]

Forgot about the “dip” til now lmao

[@gregorymarsh9504]

So then how do they properly fix chewed up machined wheels? They said what not to do, but didn't say what to do.

[@gmans7859]

Perfect timing Larry, Thank You. A few days ago my wife came home from store with watery eyes. She snicked a rim on the Mercedes...Hope I can find this level of quality in my area.

[@michaeljjensen]

These guys are awesome at what they do. They really care about the product they put out.

[@markusstrobl1067]

So what do they do when the lip is damaged? TIG weld new material and machine it down?

[@nickolastiguan]

yeah, I wish they would explain more/tell us

[@volundrfrey896]

I doubt the heat cycles are good for the wheel. But it would be interesting to see that since curb damage often is on the lip. If you plan to paint them you can use metal bondo.

[@billybobjoe198]

@@volundrfrey896 I don't see a reason why the heat would be a problem, the wheels are formed under immense heat. I imagine you would just need to temper it afterwards and have a nice evenly stressed structure again. The powdercoat oven being 400 degrees probably does that anyway.

[@volundrfrey896]

​@@billybobjoe198 It can create stress, a welding arc is a lot hotter than that oven. But it might be fine, I'm not an expert on subject, however I would think twice before welding.

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

@@billybobjoe198 TIG welding is hot. Hot enough in fact to break down the oxide layer and the base metal. So you create a heat affected zone around the weld which can change the structure of the alloy local to the weld repair. You would also need to know what alloy was used when the rim was cast in order to select the most appropriate filler rod. 'A nice evenly stressed structure again' would be extremely difficult to achieve. Weld repairs to alloy rims does work in some cases but there are limitations of course.

[@kenthall6584]

but, how do they repair the lip we "chunks" are missing?

[@sdisbro18]

Kent Hall aluminum wheels are tig welded to fill in the chunk and then they go through the same process you saw here

[@leetspeek]

@@sdisbro18 + putting it on a lathe or something similar to cut the welded on material.

[@JayGee6996]

Was thinking the same, that’s the only reason I watched it and the only thing shown was paint stripping sanding and painting

[@wedge240]

@@JayGee6996 haha same here

[@daveisnothere5005]

I would have tossed it, I wouldn't repair a wheel with that big chunk out of it it may be a liability if something went wrong

[@Beenman27]

Glad to see these guys mask the rim mounting face and stud holes before powder-coating. Pros!

[@Sigrafix]

Thank you so much for this video Larry.. I curbed and bent 2 of my OEM Mustang wheels, I wanted to replace them, turns out they're $1,200 EACH.. LOL.. I found some places that claim to repair wheels and leave them "like new" but I wasn't sure if that was possible to even repair them, after seeing this video I'm much more confident in the process.

[@sijosue]

Sigrafix what style mustang wheels?

[@olveramelinda]

I’m a small shop owner thanks for the masking tape tip. I have issues with some Checy wheels and Nissan wheels. Even with. A plastic duck head it still has issues thanks

[@The_Car_Gods_7814]

Awesome video. Had my wheels done not to long ago with powder coating. It is fascinating to see the processes of how things are done.

[@jdisdetermined]

Is this a new camera, Larry? Video quality is insanely good on this one.. so awesome..

[@wilsonz9232]

Thanks friend. I got rim rash from hitting a curb at 10 mph. Made a sound like I hit a metal rod because they are steel rims. Impact made the car jolt back and forth. Drives fine.. no veering or noise. I should be fine to go then right? This stress is annoying, I wish I never hit that curb lol

[@offdatgogo]

I click the like button as soon as the page loads. Why? Because I know whatever Larry posts is going to be extreme, amazing, educational, fun.

[@therealderjett]

The R8 looks killer with the track wheels and tires!

[@jerrycube6244]

I used Proformance for my Quadrifoglio wheel repair and mounting in general. Mario’s awesome.

[@garrett793]

Great video! Best one out there to show the process. Thanks for uploading!

[@scottypenney3862]

I really enjoy watching people do what at least appears to be quality work. So many hacks out there just turning out crap. I am sure they stay busy... quality is so hard to find. Nice job!!

[@mkb5984]

So true.

[@damon123jones]

Thats alot of work...but amazing finish....how much did it cost?

[@hectortercero1575]

I wanna take my rims where they located ?

[@jonathanstoddard7712]

Your the best content on you tube, Larry. Thank you for sharing your passion with us. It is greatly appreciated.

[@gmangarcia171]

Enjoyed the video. I just scuffed my rim and ofcourse knowing makes me crazy. So i must fix it or replace it so can you give a location in nyc or Yonkers or any place in the 5 boughs . Please Thank you.

[@rudyardharrison4177]

Very interesting! Two of my GTI's wheels have sustained rim rash and it drives me nuts. But I have a question regarding the wide use of high gloss exterior plastic finishes. My car's sunroof surround was badly scratched, I think by a car wash, is there any repair process for this kind of damage?

[@alexanderking994]

Where was that shop I have a rim in need of that treatment. Also you didnt memtion the average cost to repair minor damage. Great vid

[@marjoriemorrison5004]

New subscriber here, been really enjoying your videos 👌🏼

[@tomsommer54]

Great video Larry. Now I know where the wheels are going when the shop says they are sending them out. Thank you!

[@klasseact6663]

Looking forward to the next video Larry mentioned but I already have his aerator and Frothe and it worked great on my trip to the Tail of the Dragon a couple weeks ago!

[@bhinosrt8557]

I don’t get why people unlike videos like this it’s a piece of art from ammo😭🙏🏿

[@Godemes]

The title is misleading. Expecting to see the rim repair work and its not shown. Only thing on video is stripping of paint and applying of paint and of course, cleaning. At no moment do you see how to fix damage to the rim, a repair technique is briefly mentioned at 3:03.

[@amcdonal86VT]

How much does it cost to do all this???

[@thestig560]

That powder coat finish is amazing! Does anybody know of a place like this in California? Every place I’ve Yelp’d has pictures of finished rims with orange peel.

[@j.elizabeth4621]

Hey Larry. Do smells tend to hide in areas people don’t think about, and do you recommend or sell a product for keeping a car smelling decent? Do they reuse the abrasive plastic material?

[@208miuwu]

As always another AWESOME VIDEO I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you Larry for taking the time out of your days to help us the people of KZbin LAND.

[@glassesstapler]

removes grease prior to painting, proceeds to carry with bare hands

[@SupercarSeany]

Wow this is some top notch work. What's the price per wheel for this type of "typical" service? Do you all accept wheel via mail to ship back out?

[@cenz2279]

Mario is the man! and Proformance is a great company. Great video

[@dangerousaltoids]

Awesome to watch and learn the process but how much does this cost vs just flat out buying new rims?

[@TC-ps9sd]

Great video that gave me an appreciation for the work and cost of doing this. The wheel looks great.

[@Aminul550]

I don’t care if it’s 1am and I’m just about to fall asleep, as soon as I get a notification that Larry has uploaded a new video, I turn on my 55” 4K smart tv, hit KZbin and watch his video in 1080p 60fps. Always great content. Any idea on when you’re going to do a video about pressure washers?

[@Legionmanchild]

At what point is the masking tape removed from the wheel? Post mount, pre inflation?

[@phillipgrandison2384]

They don't show it, but once the tire has been placed on rim completely (back and then front sides), they'd removed the tape. Then air up tire to pop bead into place.

[@valkyrie8614]

Hi. Can you make a video on how to remove really annoying/stubborn hard water spots on car windows

[@gokuson7364]

I usually buff the window at 800 rpm with 1500 rubbing compound. Idk if that's recommend but it leaves the windows spotless and like new.

[@jg11596]

what does it cost for this excellent reconditioning?

[@SlowandFat]

Larry, just wondering why did you get a set of stock wheels for track when you could have gone for something lighter and possible cheaper? Since it was for the track, looks shouldn't matter right?

[@danielbyrne5862]

another great video by the master i am going to do some curb rash repair on my alloy rims my self just the outer edge will sand lightly and paint. would like to use a little filler dont no what kind of filler to use any ideas thanks dan

[@jaimeb.384]

What material can you use to cover screws when powder coating? Not a wheel what I am trying to powder coat, but would be very useful.

[@williamarden5441]

Yay a new video. Always love when you post brother

[@xxHydroponicxx]

Can I please ask, is material ever weld replaced into bad scratches or chips?

[@kavinskysmith4094]

Hey do you have any simple ways to clean a windshield so it doesnt streak, like some simple cleaners that you can just spray on and wipe off with a paper towel that will do the job without getting fussy about it?

[@AMMO-NYC]

Got a few videos for this. check out my website or youtube channel. Thanks

[@RAM1990OS]

So satisfying and educational. Watching this answered so many questions I've had.

[@xfivemtiwtiw789]

Hello sir. How much did it cost you sir for then curb rash repair.? Thanks

[@raymondtan4305]

Hey Larry Great video, by the way what is the name of the shop, are they in NY?

[@HannahsGarage]

Proformance Industries

[@rcairforceone]

Man, makes me wonder. I've got a set of HREs I sent back back for refinishing, and they consider a wheel .037 out of round 'damaged beyond repair'.

[@mda7763]

How much did this cost? You showed one rim but I assume they did the entire set.

[@andrewrout8712]

Finished product looks fantastic

[@Brunsson1]

Quite nice job but what about teperature in the oven and aluminium? This can change the structure of the material and it's features. I am repairing and painting wheels aswell but no with the powdercoating method, just sipmple "wet painting". Once i had customer who had powdercoated wheels and after this proces his wheels were total garbage. It used to be very srong wheels but after some time in the oven the strength was gone and wheels were very easy to kick or bend.

[@budman123052]

Fascinating!! It's always interesting to see the precision and expertise that goes into the different aspects of engineering and techniques of a product.

[@hassysid9338]

Hi , i have put some metal filler but i wasnt able to remove it completely via 80, 180, 400 grit sandpaper by hand, since it looks uneven ...should i use sanding machine with 180, 400, 800 etc disc pads ??

[@HyperspeedMedia]

how much was the poweder coating?

[@samyeong7578]

Great video! Where is your 964 Larry?

[@ptr-rimworkx5927]

A smooth surface to start powdercoating??? How long it will stay? Is it not better to sandblast the whole wheel with round Pearls of glass of something? Why no primer to start.

[@matthewpham]

Boss: If you remove material you’ll change the design of the wheel. Technician: OK so I’m gonna sand out all the damage on these spokes.

[@nunyabeezwacks1408]

Yeah, I thought they were going to add material to the wheel, THEN sand off the excess to match the wheel’s proper shape.

[@suprarune]

mine are also being refurbished,but mine are gonna get painted and not powder coated cause paint has more stretch in it than powdercoat.or so ive heard

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

no,its just cheaper and less resilient and will flake off

[@carbonfibercreationswashin7213]

How did the company fix deep scratches or curb rash?

[@restovrator539]

Hi, tell me what is the method of removing paint from discs

[@TheMototerrestrial]

How much did this process cost, and how long did it take, total?

[@spartan360v1]

I just had this happen today at the tire shop after getting tires they hid the damaged rims on the passenger side and pulled the car up front running I'm glad I seen this video I'm not even going to argue with the owner what goes around comes around

[@acrepairnearme]

Watched with pleasure!

[@baxter151]

Ammo, I have a weird problem with my paint on my car. There is a cross shaped crack in the paint that measures about 2cm x 1cm. 1 of the 4 ‘flaps’ has come off from washing the car a few months back. My idea is to brake off the other ‘flaps’ leaving a bare area 2x1cm then use touch up paint following the video you did on DRIVE CLEAN. Is this a good idea or is the area too large for touch up? What would you recommend?

I heard that better way to paint wheels is with spray paint because the heat in oven makes the wheels softer and than they bend easer. Do you think it is true?

[@phillipgrandison2384]

Not true.

[@grizzly9960]

I would have had all 4 done! They do good work

[@vomdeich1011]

They did all 4 for sure...

[@Marcony-R2D2]

@@vomdeich1011 no shit Sherlock 😂

[@omg_stoppit]

Lmao dude, why would they only do one? 😂

[@DigitalEkho]

@@Marcony-R2D2 really...

[@frankmcdevitt2766]

Grizzly ♐️

[@HeliconPath]

So if sanding the damage flat is wrong, what do they do? surely not bog and fill haha

[@mikeatv]

excellent video.... those guys know what there doing big time....

[@tonycervantes4816]

What size of sand paper do u use bro. To fix of damage like curb rash. Raul.. help pliss

[@stillalive--]

Wow. That's professionalism! Awesome

[@3150xYz]

Wait so you can only refurb diamond cut alloys a number of times??? Do you just run out of rim at some point? Or is that not how to do it?

[@andysgaragetherapy]

I was very curious about this process. I think I will have my wheels repaired this way. I was hesitant before but now I think this is the way to go, especially to get the most durable finish. Thanks for the upload and share Larry!

[@lifeslooker]

Excellent - good tip regarding doing your own wheels and the grade of paper to use and the polish...mine are kerbed and need sorting out. A pandemic will provide the time, just need to decide when to do it. Thanks for your informative info as ever. Be safe.

[@fernandocotto8706]

Hey Larry, where is this shop at? They seem to do awesome work.

[@ahmedp800]

AWESOME! thank you Although I was hoping to see how they fix the severely damaged wheels.

[@marjoriemorrison5004]

Very informative and interesting video Ammo. Thanks 👍

[@deathmasta455]

2nd!!! Love your channel, Larry! You give amazing tips and techniques to upcoming detailers, in a man-to-man, non-commercialized way, you're the best!

[@Jeff_S...]

Been hunting through your library, hoping to find your technique for raw aluminum rims. I've had a set for about 10 years and have been slowly refining my technique, very much like was explained here, wet sanding from 400-1500, then polishing and applying a wax. But they are never as shiny as I hope, I really feel there's a deeper shine in there. There are almost no useful raw aluminum videos on YT, I have searched for years.

[@brandonh.6654]

Best part is if you got a easy color like gloss black it’s only $150 each time. Most people only scrape to their dominating shoulder lane so I would sways set aside 300 a year for mishaps.

[@bigaudiofanaticsoldchannel6162]

Great video, so the next video will show the new gelee?

[@llewellyn56]

question i cannot find anything that can take out hard water spots from bumper little yellow . good video

[@rlikemoney]

Try white vinegar, ive never tried it but the detailer at my work swears by it.

[@BlackLifeDontMatter-r4t]

How much each wheel cost to repair?? Are your in NYC ???

[@peterbenbow4282]

Be nice to see how they did the heavy curbing ,where chunks are taken out

[@draxgaming8139]

I wish you put the prices how much it cost to do it?

[@pd-ic9fc]

Love the use of PPE 😂🤣

[@missayawk]

In the Bronx Ive gotten price quotes to repair curb rash and fininshing a wheel for $125 per wheel