Budget Bluewater sailboats, Dufour

[@massimolucamattioli5236]

Amazing: we mentioned Dufour yesterday and … here y are today! Again I find your comments very pragmatic and to the point. I think Felci is a good naval architect and I like particularly the GL line. The potential is there but they are nevertheless production boats. Redundacy not provided by the producer need to be added by the owner, if saling range is extended above costal one. Thank you for the educated discussion.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

You are welcome, its all a price point in my opinion, sure if I had 400k to snag something else absolutely however I find the 100k range far more manageable and then add to it over time as ones needs increase

[@massimolucamattioli5236]

@@ChasingLatitudes makes sense! :)

[@shawnlowrey7467]

I like seeing the different models with a short description of each. I have enjoyed this series.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you Shawn, I like just giving a brief over view so that others can see the several amazing vessels out there

[@bgauthi1]

I know it would not fit into this video but I love the Dufour 45 Classic. Have heard nothing but rave reviews of it's sailing ability. Though I have heard that storage is not what most would like for a boat that size. Everything is a compromise. :) I like the idea of going more in depth for specific models over just listing a bunch. Keep up the good work Chris!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thabks Bobby, i think i will try both, some more like this and then some more in depth ones on models such as the 473

[@bgauthi1]

@@ChasingLatitudes Wouldn't mind an in depth on the 423 also. Maybe an in depth on the Oceanis "3" line. 393, 423, 473... Would also love caparisons to other Beneteau lines. Kind of like a ranking based on performance, storage, etc.. No one has tried to take a shot at doing those. Might be too subjective to even bother.

[@MotorcycleMouse]

Potato good video. I like the idea of going more in depth on them and when we hit the water that 1k sounds like an amazing deal to get your knowledge

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Tha k you thank you, yeah its a lot to cover in 8 min

[@Sikon816]

As always the videos are insightful. I definitely would listen to longer videos from you!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Ahh, thank you so much, I try and post a new video everyday so everyone has something new to see, I don't think if I did longer videos I'd be able to post as much, I do live streams on the weekends though and those are longer

[@svsandpebble]

I love the Dufour and look forward each day to what chasing Latitudes will put out next. Chris, maybe adding things like cabin roof height would prove totally valuable to taller sailors. In my search for boats being 6’ 3” cabin roof height meant everything when it comes to being on a boat more then one day at a time. I am grateful in my boat my head upon standing straight up allows me to enjoy 80% of my boat while standing straight up. A person would be surprised how crippling it would be to only stand straight under a hatch. Keep them coming and thank you.

[@svsandpebble]

@ABC gang That’s great headroom. I was so surprised when I first started looking at boats that often headroom in earlier boats was less then let’s say 6’5”

[@ChasingLatitudes]

One thing to consider when looking for headroom is the angle of the companion way, on some models with the increased headroom the companion way is so steep its dangerous

[@svsandpebble]

@@ChasingLatitudes So true about often more headroom means Steeper stairs at the companionway. Having or wanting to bring along a larger dog sailing a steep companionway could also prove dangerous for our four legged friends. As you have pointed out, a lot goes into picking the right boat (for you).

[@kitman3]

the Dufour's look like an excellently crafted boat thanks -

[@ChasingLatitudes]

They really are fantastic. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment Chris

[@joemeatmama2267]

Thanks for the video. The amount of information you deliver is amazing so keeping the number of different models discussed and at the same time adding a more in-depth look (longer length) would be just fine by me. I don't watch these videos with the expectation that they're geared for those with a short attention span.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thanks Joe, appreciate you watching and taking the time to give me great feedback

[@eddieohearn17]

I hadn’t thought to look at defour until now ... thanks

[@ChasingLatitudes]

You are very welcome

[@chuckmader9333]

Good info. Thank you much. I saw a video of yours that said you had a spreadsheet to share for purchasing but can’t seem to find the sheet. Do you still have it and are you willing to share? Thanks - and keep up the great work!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Of course , I usually throw it up on my live stream for people, I will throw it in the comments when I get back 🙃 I will lin it at the top for ya

[@frank1181]

Got to sail the Dufour 455 last week. Really nice fast boat. With a total head count of 7 adults on board it was at full capacity. Easy boat to sail.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Sweet frank, thats awesome, expensive boat, but awesome hah

[@manvillea]

Good video! I've been looking and the Dufour 430 for a couple years now, their still out of my price range but hoping they will start coming down as used models come on the market. What drew me to the Dufour is the quality of construction over some of the other new boats and great, creative layouts that maximize space.

[@PrettyCoolFriend]

Wow! I had no idea those sail boats had a whole inside living quarters. I’ve been dreaming of sailing lately. Crazy, super-realistic, long dreams of being on a sail boat. I don’t know but I think it’s calling! Thanks.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Some are sailing apartments

[@karllewis735]

"Call me a potato." Now, I'm not one to kink shame anyone, but, that's an odd one. Anyway... you know why older boats had those long overhangs? And didn't carry their beam all the way aft? Mostly, it revolved around the various racing rules, mostly IOR, and its successors. The *style* lingered, even after the rule stopped being an issue. As you noted, the object, under the rating rule, was to have the ship appear to have a short LWL, and then, with the narrow back end, the boats were quite tender, and in heeling over, they'd gain LWL, thus "beating" their rating.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Yes sir

[@vidznthngs]

Well.... I'm not sure tender is the word. They would designed to be sailed at a certain heel degree, but once they got there they would lock in and be stable as a rock

[@karllewis735]

@@vidznthngs Fair enough; you're quite right.

[@Happ465]

Are Duquesne certified to Category A?

[@idiotbob5026]

old school love Island packet cutter, Shannon, have a Catalina 22 sailing lakes needed a trailable sailboat

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Awesome, thays what i love about sailing, there is no perfect vessel, get the one that works best for your needs, congrats on the Catalina

[@AZD2169]

What’s a better engine? A yanmar, or the Volvo penta?

[@Wolf6151]

I asked for Dufour yesterday, and one day later you delivered. Thanks Potato

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I got you

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I realized I am going to have to cover maybe 2 models per episode, maybe only one , lots to go over but I prefer the quick glance look at them although I'm not sure everyone else does, what do you prefer

[@fawqman2764]

Love the content! Keep em comin!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment

[@evanzener-realestate]

I like the videos. They have helped. I’m going to sign up to your member area. I’m a about a year, or a year and a half out from buying a boat. I know you say not to go all out in the beginning, but I want to. I’ve had plans to move to the Caribbean for 15 years, it only hit me recently that getting there by boat solves a ton of problems and makes it a million times cooler. I have medium size dogs that can’t go on a plane. I’m looking for something in the $100k-$150k range, 40ft. A safe aft cockpit. Two helms, two cabins. 5 ft of draft or less. If I could find a boat with wood on the top it would give the dogs more space to walk outside. I cold call and for living and work on my computer. I’m wondering how good of internet I could get in different areas in the Caribbean anchored by shore, or docked in a harbor. Looking at Hawaii too. The dogs wouldn’t like that trip as much. I live in Portland. I’ll sign up for you deal this weekend. Thank you!!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Sounds great, hope to see you on the members area soon, I can help get you all sorted out, I spent a lot of time in Portland and sailed all over the Columbia River, small world as I am now in the Caribbean 😁

[@evanzener-realestate]

True, I don’t want to be maintaining pee stained wood. Good advice. I’ll see you on members area later today or this weekend. Talk soon.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@evanzener-realestate Sounds good

[@buttonswon]

Need a link to that song, bro

[@orion_13]

Does Dufour offer a more costal hopping option than these two do? I love the 13ft width but man the LOA to LWL is a no go. Asking price under 100k would be a plus. I have another question and I don't know if you want to answer it but here goes. I'm not a sailor. I've never sailed a boat or been on one under way. I do however have aviation knowledge. WW1 the airplanes had thin wing designs and no real structure flat or outward curve to the wing. I'm trying to say it is thin and the design of curved bottom causes a losses with drag being the main force of inefficiency. Is there not a way to make sails so that the inside, bottom of the wing to say, had a taught flat sheet to reduce the drag and increase the lift/up wind efficiency? I could see this being done with the rolling fuller setup and tacking to the opposite side would just mean an adjustment to let out more sail and tightening up the inward flat sheet.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Yes, I have Dufour under 50k video I think that covers more coastal cruising, any of my 50k or less videos I posted last week covers them.

[@ALProducitons]

Great video gives me something to think about in addition to the Hunter's!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thanks Josh, I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment

[@shainester]

Not too long at all. I personally think you could go longer and in more detail on each boat / model. I’ve enjoyed all the videos and look forward to them each day in this series. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you so much

[@sambassil7825]

Very nice again, thank you.

[@kalvinmusic3688]

I like the Dufour 40; any problems would be unique to my interest and not technical to the vessel's capability.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Yeah buddy, I'm just trying to show what's out there and available in different price points

[@johnadams7402]

Great boat, nice looking, capable cruiser.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Yes sir

[@samwilds6399]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thanks sam, I appreciate youbwatching and taking the time to comment

[@stevenbenjamin2036]

How about the best blue water boat to go around the world with for under 100k

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Beneteau 473

[@eddieohearn17]

I am hoping you look at the 470 series

[@ChasingLatitudes]

473 is legendary 🙌 i will cover that series

[@buttonswon]

Seriously, who is the song artist?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Pure imagination remix my man

[@tomgordon4730]

Love the info

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thanks Tom, you are a legend for commenting

[@SirCharles12357]

Jumping on the potato bandwagon. Love the series!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thanks Charles, appreciate it

[@tomgordon4730]

Tks very helpful!!!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you for watching tom and taking the time to comment

[@johnodenkirk4337]

Great video

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you so much

[@stevenbenjamin2036]

How about HR under 100k

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Not many on the market currently and the ones under 50 id never look at twice with the comparable vessels available, I will check and see whats on the market

[@knownone3395]

Thanks.🥔

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you 😊 the known one, I like that name

[@Khamzes]

Any plans for an O'Day video? I'm biased because I own one but I think they're a brand worth consideration

[@steveburgess8355]

Just wondering why your so hung up about the discrepancy between LOA compared to the length at waterline. First thing on a person list should be thing is how it sails. Even if they are on a budget. A smaller waterline is less drag right? Faster hull speed means keeping ahead of rough weather. Tall sails with short water line means it's more powered . What about ballast to displacement and how tender a boat is. AVS and STIX etc. A boat with equal LOA and waterline doesn't mean it's a good sailer. No point buying a boat if you later not happy with how it sails.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Loa vs lwl is my biggest factor for cost not only running cost but livable space vs running cost

[@ilesfarms1314]

Interesting bluewater debate here in the comment section. I own a Tartan bluewater boat but I love Benneteaus for what they are built for. I believe that I would have been better served with a newer spacious Benneteau for the type of sailing I do. The production builder "Benneteau" builds boats for less because of their, 1/ manufacturing processes. 2/ Huge purchasing power of all components. 3/ Multi-million dollar C n C computers that save labour costs. 4/ 130 years of manufacturing experience. Benneteau simply passes all of these savings onto the consumer and that is occasionally misconstrued as a cheaply built boat. Ignore the bashers because they are a minority. At the end of the day, the real winners are the sailers who are having the most fun with their pride and joy boats.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

100% could not agree with you more , well said sir, well said

[@rays.5800]

good video

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you

[@jerrythornberry7070]

Nice

[@thomasweaver2894]

We need to see potato head guy .. we miss him

[@ChasingLatitudes]

This weekend he shall make an appearance on the live stream

[@ralphcooper6985]

Good info my friend! I hope at least me hitting the like button helps.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

It always does, thank you for taking the time to comment

[@805gregg]

No such thing as a bluewater sailboat, there might be buewater sailors but the boat need a captain to go anywhere

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I'd have to agree

[@biscuiteater40]

Algorithm for ya.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Love ya

[@williampalmer7026]

🥔!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

😁

[@Ethaara]

PO-TA-TO

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Love ya

[@thomastaylor6991]

You are not a potato. Unless a potato is good. IDK

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Could be 😁

[@kennyj2005]

'tater

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Tater yachtie baby

[@kennyj2005]

@@ChasingLatitudes great stuff CC , bought your book, wish I had it before i bought my boat (beneteau 323), would've negotiated down for sure based on original sails etc, keep on tatering

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Ken, thank you so much for watching, commenting and buying the book , how are you liking the 323 ?

[@kennyj2005]

@@ChasingLatitudes love it, first boat for me, 2 summers ( we are in Ontario, -30C tonight), learning tons, inshore sailing,some overnights, the boat has been great, have ambitions to go far later

[@cmcdonald6]

YOU ARE A POTATO XD

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Perfecto

[@PrivateUsername]

Potato.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Perfecto