Can you Shoot Down a Drone with a Shotgun?

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[@GruntProof]

For the Knuckleheads: No "aircraft" were harmed in this epic creation. You probably should NOT shoot down "aircraft" and make a video of it.

[@RedDawnReadiness]

😅

[@user-wp3kj3po5c]

As a gorilla fighter these types of drones are serious threat to me and they are dropping morter shells on me. I used 12 Guage for this but it didn't work and now they are flying about 700 to 800 meters altitude. You can't hit it with M16 or Kalashnikov at this range on small moving target! What you suggest😂

[@gb123-ej8wh]

When was a federal law passed protecting all UAVs? Drone is the colloquial term for any radio controlled aircraft. I recall a court case in which FAA has no authority in the usable air space above your private property and a man won against charges for shooting down a pest radio quad copter. It was harassing his wife and daughters and finally he shot it and the judge sided with him setting legal precedence. I’m curious how FAA expects to enforce this master protection for all annoying buzzing trespassing things on private property and within usable air space, when case law already precedes that it’s lawful defense to shoot them down if they’re harassing you and people have made common practice of shooting them down for being within their own usable airspace. This means that if you could make lawful use of that airspace without FAA permission (radio airplanes, ultra light aircraft, skyscraper, radio antennas, etc) not necessarily that you do, then it’s part of your property. Again in case I wasn’t clear not arguing just stating why I’m skeptical.

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

@@DyingBreed1776 Those are bears hibernating during the winter. Go back to school ;)

[@gb123-ej8wh]

@@DyingBreed1776You should never set foot on private property without owner consent. Why do you need someone to answer that for you? People run around and pretend they have some right to trespass, regardless how I use my place I pay for it and don’t owe it to anyone else to gift them use of what I pay for. People sneak and ride 4 wheelers and sneak and hunt, and tear down signs and act like it would kill them to buy their own property to use, or go use public land.

[@sokyoutdoors588]

All those turkey loads I bought on clearance before the big cold looks like they may just come in handy.

[@bendeleted9155]

Be careful. Most drones can be easily mistaken for turkeys. 😉

[@supfoo3638]

The big cold 💀 😂

[@sparkyatlarge]

#4 Buck. Had one hovering 30 feet over our place a few years back. All it took was for me to aim the shotgun at it and it took off. There are rules for drones too, and you can't go around peeking in people's windows and things like that. If they stay high, no problem. They get too close, I'm taking it down. Period.

[@yellowdog762jb]

"Don't be stupid!" Timeless good advice.

[@markbeasley5322]

According to my sources they will have a spotting drone that is very quiet to find your personnel and then a full blown kamikaze drone to dive straight in to the middle of any activity with a big boom.

[@travislupum]

They will be using thermal for tracking and detection they have the money and capabilities we don't unfortunately however ingenuity goes a long way and Americans have lots of it

[@sirseabass2221]

Netting around permanent structures and meeting points

[@alexbell8865]

Garand Thumb has been putting out a lot of content on this. Good stuff.

[@AJohnSmith]

Proliferation of jamming technology, inbound…Soon, they’ll be implementing radio jamming halos around the soldiers body. Always a counter to anything.

[@brianjones9780]

@@AJohnSmith soldiers are already sometimes issued jammers. When they were issued the intention was to deal with IEDs but it'd be neat to see how those same devices do against drones. Problem is, jamming radio is a big no-no in the US.

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

I was telling people that in Ukraine after the first year are using shotguns 12 gauge back in the trenches in Ukraine. pumps are so reliable and shotguns for Close Quarters combat is basically the best most damaging option you can get. For out drones or 1 shot show stopper. Most squads that can, have one, either designated shotgunner, or shotguns in the group. Shotguns are back on the Americans menu boys. Its all i have for a long gun anymore anyways fo4 now times got tougher. So i would have to make due no matter what 😂😂 glad i got alot Shotgun time, ammo/mods, and experience in a wooded area or closer up, it would be just fine.

[@trollmcclure1884]

I used to think about a full auto shotgun or .22 for FPV drones but they are too fast. Human cant operate it or detect a drone fast enough. A spotting drone will be too far away for your 60-100 yard shotgun. You cant hear it coming even without hearing protection. Too much video evidence shows Russians shooting at drones, hitting nothing and being hit. It has to be a system.

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

So a lot of the drones are just cheap drones that get off of Amazon the Russian ones that their retrofitting with grenade droppers and small additions to the drones so most of them you absolutely can hear maybe some of the newer ones you can't and they are literally shooting them down with shotguns ​@@trollmcclure1884they also have sight systems that will Target moving targets and line up the shot for them as they move the gun to be able to shoot them down with their rifles as well so they're absolutely shooting down drones consistently

[@Hilljack69]

JC Higgins had the answer to this problem years ago It's called a goose gun

[@psychoholicslag4801]

The blunderbuss preceded the musket. It's just a big ass shotgun.

[@ZombiePanda1776]

Never piss off the guy with the Blunderbuss.

[@416cubes4]

Free men don’t ask for permission

[@RodCornholio]

Neither do law enforcement who put those free men in a freedom restricted jail.

[@lukedibben7445]

@@RodCornholio Yeah, interesting comment from Grunt proof who is also wearing a black US flag patch. He seems happy with sucking cops dicks when it suits him...

[@preparedcitizens]

I’m just glad my Benelli M1 super that’s my primary dove gun passed down from my grandfather will not lose its place even during civil unrest. 🤘

[@DadHominem]

Pattern your shotgun on paper at 25, 35, and 45 yards to test the pellet density of various loads and choke diameters. You'll probably find that something like Federal Speed-Shok with 1 1/8oz #2 shot (for ducks and geese) will work quite well out of both modified and full chokes. If you need more range, BB or BBB will work, but you'll have fewer pellets and you'll want to use the full choke. If you have a drone or know someone who does, have it fly both overhead and at nearly eye level at various distances while you estimate the range. Drones flying directly overhead look farther away than drones flying at almost eye level, horizontal to the ground. You'll want to make sure to wait to shoot until it's in effective range. Enjoy.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Agree with the federal.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

You can also make small suicide drones to take out other drones (when you can't use a shotgun). Just buy some of the super cheap fast little drones and put a small payload on the front of it and you can fly it right into it or near enough to take it out. Also, jamming is an option because in the situation where you would be fighting drones, who cares about the law?

[@milesmoyers]

I see, i shoot, I disappear

[@oldschooljeremy8124]

Hopefully not into Guantanamo!

[@milesmoyers]

@@oldschooljeremy8124lets hope not

[@gbone7581]

It wasn't me? 🤷‍♂

[@markligon7992]

My understanding off FAA laws are that NO aircraft can legally fly over private property below 450 Ft. Privacy and all. Take that how you may. Carry on.

[@hateforall4012]

That’s manned aircraft

[@user-nk8ww9ce9k]

I see hunter-killer drone teams in the near distant future.

[@ryandach3289]

Especially in Canada 🇨🇦 I hear the government there pays hunters in helicopter to shoot dear big money too. 10k I think... I forget the number I remember it being ridiculous though.

[@derrickmantle8215]

In Missouri, if it’s below 100 feet and over your property, it’s fair game to shoot it down. FYI..

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Inexpensive steel waterfowl shells will take those down pretty good

[@Anamericanhomestead]

Turkey loads. Magnum 3 inch shells. 28inch barrel. Full choke. 👍

[@myrddrral]

Oh, boy, using the music of the Unreal Tournament selection menu screen at the beginning of the video was great. Brought me memories.

[@RenThraysk]

Hitting the lithium battery pack should turn it into a ball of flame. Wonder how annoying a high power flashlight (like a LEP) aimed at the drone/camera would be to a FPV operator.

[@dananorth895]

Seems like a high power hand held laser could potentially damage optics. Certainly blind them. You get a good bit of spread at 100 yards like a tight spotlight. I've tried IR, red and green lasers with night vision and they really light things up! NV through a 50mm scope and laser spot will show individual faces at a hella distance. Jamming tech seems like best bet for any distance. A good directional, shielded yagi. But a drone can be radio, wifi, 2.400, 900 or any number of frequencies. Maybe even custom?

[@RenThraysk]

@@dananorth895 Yeah, a laser pointer will damage camera sensors though not completely (see hong kong protests), but next to no chance of hitting it on a moving drone. A rescue laser flare is designed to have a wider arc, so can be less accurate but no idea if still have enough power to blind a drone.

[@user-hw6hb4rk9t]

Bird hunter here... First, one patterns his shotgun at a measured range (40 yards?) and then holds up a lifesize replica to the pattern. As long as the pattern is dense enough, the cloud will impact the target at that range. Next, the shot size has to be big enough to puncture or batter the target significantly. I will suggest nothing smaller than #6 lead, and maybe #4 lead will give a more violent result. 1 1/2 oz of #4 is a good amount of lead, "Magnum" shot is harder and patterns better. Steel shot loses speed too fast, lead keeps its velocity. Tungsten shot with above 12 grams/cc of density is expensive, super hard and patterns great. Puncture power is 1st rate. Learning lead for fast movers is a significant issue, go trap shooting. So, best answer for average guy is probably 2 3/4" or 3" 12 gauge, with biggish lead shot. Ragged patterns mean either the range is too far, or your weapon doesn't like that particular load.

[@JeffHanauer]

I was at Big Sandy Machinegun Shoot in Arizona and they were shooting at a drone with 50cal belt feeds. About a half mile line of those fifty cals. No one hit the drone. Maybe laws have changed in the last 15 years.

[@davidsagona417]

Me: That drone had better be less than $200. 😂

[@Bolo2028]

Many seem to think that only surveillance or FPV drones are in play, and that they would be too far away to engage. But what about drones used to drop munitions? According to some Ukrainian soldiers, those drones are often within about 100 meters. Still quite a distance for bird shot, but perhaps within the realm of possibility for some sort of smaller buckshot with a flight-control wad out of a magnum shell.

[@user-xm5cn1rs5c]

I doubt drones will be in range of bird loads. Thermal reconnaissance would likely be many hundreds of feet up

[@dieselfrk13]

Double bb I've gotten goose at almost 100 yards.

[@alexbell8865]

Another great video. Garand thumb has been putting out some good info about drone warfare. Grunt proof hoorah!

[@dothedewinme]

I think some heavy duck loads or especially brass encased lead turkey shot would be ideal. Little bit larger diameter and got a bit more distance

[@DasGoodSoup]

Number 4 buck is your best option 3" mags only

[@kfsrmn]

The 65 MOA circle on a circle/dot red dot optic is pretty close to buckshot patterns. Might make targeting a bit easier on flying plastic objects like frisbees.

[@erickaesman4001]

I did not know that law existed about not able to shoot down your OWN drone on YOUR land. Im glad I left California for the Free States of America after being behind enemy lines for 60 years. Love the 9th booster comment!

[@jasonbrownlee7467]

I had no idea about this law either 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️!

[@Toastification]

While not shooting at drones, match the speed of your target (which is not a drone) pull ahead and shoot. Keep the barrel moving. If you stop the gun, you will shoot behind your target (which is not a drone) Murica

[@johnwurfel2862]

Best defense is looking like everyone else and blending until you strike. Dont hold static positions unless absolutely necessary.

[@britishtechguru]

The problem with drones is that there are so many different varieties and they all work in such different ways. Those little consumer drones with 4 rotors are easy enough and you can even automate knockdown using audio-tracking. That's pretty simple. The higher speed wingbourne versions might fly too fast and too high.

[@drewspencer9769]

When hunting waterfowl, you shoot 1 to 2 feet in front of them.

[@James-xd5ju]

I've got some Federal Premium 3 1/2 1 5/8 Oz Black cloud for my 10ga that might come in handy for a big mosquito thing like them there.

[@BlackoutPatriot]

No you dont

[@James-xd5ju]

@@BlackoutPatriot 🤣🤣

[@TheUnojoe2]

magnets ground up, and added in to the load are likely to add some interesting effects. You’re probably allowed to fire at something “drone carried” suspended below on a line. Can you capture drone aircraft, and being then down in a controlled manner???

[@jrose-xp6tf]

If a drone invades my personal air-space, the law can be damned.

[@robg8433]

I saw a Grenade on that drone...& perceived it was threatening me and my family... that's my story.

[@dus777]

What if the quad copter is sitting on a really tall pole? Or, maybe hanging from a tree? We need to follow the science!

[@oldschooljeremy8124]

Or something made to mimic a drone but nonoperational. A plastic toy or model plane, perhaps. Or a wooden mockup. Or just a Frisbee.

[@joe6167]

perhaps just mock up some motors somehow, as that's probably the thing you want to see the effect on?

[@threequarter4071]

Taofledermaus did that exact thing a few years ago.

[@TheMclaujo]

Can’t wait to see advances in close proximity anti aircraft weaponry and ammunition. Set up and forget anti aircraft drone batteries, full auto 10 gauge multi barreled platforms, gatling & mini guns.

[@cw5865]

Love it and yes the reaction time on the boosted is probably lessoned...

[@3er328]

If I think it’s something that needs to happen,by that time I’m not going to be to concerned with breaking their rules

[@samwilliams1142]

Tungsten is heavier than lead. Also more expensive. Should give better results.

[@banjohappy]

Tungsten is not heavier than lead. Tungsten is #74 on the periodic table. Lead is #82. Lead is heavier.

[@samwilliams1142]

@@banjohappy These are the densities listed in my periodic table. Lead (Pb) 11.34 gm/cm³ Tungsten (W) 19.25 gm/cm³ Those are the numbers of electrons and protons in each atom of these elements.

[@kellyward7090]

Hope yall are ready I think THE time is getting close to back up all of our tough talk. Good luck and God bless patriots

[@ehodder9]

Classic.. love the unreal tournament theme music

[@Fish-ub3wn]

yesterday i had an idea to hold skeetshooting drills for anti drone defence... drone camo tech are going to be more and more important...

[@henryc7548]

Good on you for thinking about it. Remember, thermal camouflage is just a combo of insulation and a conductive/easily cooled outer layer. It also needs to be regular camouflage too.

[@Fish-ub3wn]

@@henryc7548 yup space blankets layer under camo 👍

[@joejones3885]

Amazing thank you!! Man your open is so cool!! nice work definitely enjoy ..

[@WillieMakeit]

Even if you miss the main body of the drone you just have to hit one propeller blade to off st the unit. Wing it then you got it

[@elevatorman7750]

Great video buddy

[@whereswaldo5740]

IDK but could you suspend something from a drone with say a 10 foot line and hit it flying around with out hitting a drone? Say something of similar size and plastic types?

[@Cyberhacker3]

Jeez i had no idea that was illegal , i've been telling people for weeks to start practicing skeet shooting in preparation for drones.

[@VikingPreparedness]

It's all how you articulate the perceived threat

[@kylesmith4173]

Okay I’ve seen a lot of these videos and I just want to say that some of those commercial drones can reach 30k feet! If you want to know if you can shoot one down you need to figure out what quality of camera they are most likely using and what is its effective operational range i.e. how far away can it identify troop movements; that is the range you would be shooting out to.

[@scottsvee2465]

One word, PULL

[@Variable19]

Thank God you didn't follow my tactic....I wasted an entire case of beer throwing them at the stupid thing...Last beer finally dropped it....I had to finish out the rest of the training sober

[@silence6408]

Haha the old school unreal tournament menu music in the intro. Nice.

[@shawndmiles6747]

Redesigned AA-12 would be the best idea but next best option is a auto loading goose gun with extended magazine..

[@american7169]

Problem there is range. A shotty can't reach out to 500yd which is the min distance I would be flying if gathering Intel. Your gunna need to borrow Scott's punt gun and load it with 00 to get out half that distance😂

[@shaneboushie4737]

Maybe some duck or geese loads.

[@Milspecpoptart]

What if you shot at a clay pigeon suspended from a drone...? A towed object is not an aircraft...

[@TinyGoHomes]

After a ninth booster 😂 love it brother.

[@timp788]

Taufladermaus did some testing with those Skynet rounds a couple of years ago. The results weren’t particularly impressive.

[@hatchetjack1031]

Mossy 835 ,3.5" steel #2's. Goose loads!

[@randymacsgarage]

Awesome 👏

[@darren5956]

Like those propellers were actually shot on the ground.... hahahahaha

[@David-jo2wr]

We used to launch a can in the air with a can cannon and the other tried to shoot the can out of the sky with birdshot. Pretty challenging but might be a training aid in this.

[@ghoward6797]

But officer I thought it was a duck 🦆

[@MannElite]

Try using high velocity #4 shot!

[@psychoholicslag4801]

Upland game or turkey loads in max dram 3 or 3.5" shells.

[@philjon763]

12ga. #4 buck works good.

[@GenericBrandDan]

After seeing some KZbin videos about the Ukrainian drone usage I got on ammo seek a few weeks ago and the ammo I was considering was 12ga #4 buck 3 in inch magnums with copper coated shot. Sure, it was $1.01 a round, but that's the load I'd pick. For reasons i don't understand copper coated shot has better range and accuracy, and 42 pellets launched way out there should get the job done. You could use that load for CQB too, 3 inch magnums buck could wreck yo couch or your drone....

[@yellowdog762jb]

Copper covered pellets don't have more range just because they are covered in copper. Shotgun pellets are traditionally made of lead, which is soft. A copper coating makes them harder and less subject to deformation when fired. The less the shot is deformed, the more consistent it is in holding a pattern and the fewer gaps you have in your pattern for the target to pass through since randomly shaped pellets aren't zooming off outside of the pattern aimed at your target. Thus loads with copper covered pellets will generally have more consistent and uniform patterns. A pattern from a load with harder shot with fewer gaps is more effective at a given range, and usually a bit farther down range, than one from a load of very soft shot. Some pellets always get deformed when fired down a shotgun barrel. But higher quality rounds use harder shot and better systems inside the shell to cushion and protect the individual pellets as they travel thru the barrel. For those that don't know, the smaller the shot number, the larger the pellet. But the fewer pellets there are in the load. Steel shot is less dense than lead, so for the same weight load, the more pellets. But steel has less retained energy down range. Bismuth has more retained energy down range than steel. And tungsten has even more. Steel, or non toxic waterfowl loads in sizes 1 thru BBB are probably the most affordable long range loads. 12 GA 00, AKA Double Ought buckshot, only has 9 pellets per load, although they are 30 caliber in size. Turkey loads are still available with lead pellets, and they are very consistent down range since the target is usually only the turkey's head and neck. But the most common shot size is 4. My guess is that the range one could consistently take out a Frisbee sized object might be around 60 yards with a turkey load. If I was buying anti Frezbee rounds, I'd probably lean towards high quality water fowl rounds in #1s and 2s and I'd go with a medium to full choke on my shotgun. I'd also buy 3 or 3.5 inch long shells if they'd fit in my gun. 2 3/4 inches is "standard" size in older guns. You may also want to check and see if your shot gun has a removable plug in case you want to load a couple of extra rounds. Just don't forget to reinstall it if you go hunting for non plastic targets. Also, the projectiles don't all arrive on target at the same time. For instance, if one could freeze the airborne shot in mid flight 20 or 25 yards downrange, the first shot in the pattern might be several feet, or more, in front of the last of the shot. Which is part of the reason that a good swing through is important in shotguning. Back in the 70's, Bob Brister wrote a book that went into great detail about what the flight characteristics of shot were. I think the book is called The Art of the Shotgun. Or something similar. If you are an avid shotgunner, or just want to geek out on the mid flight properties of shot, it's an excellent book. If you don't have much experience with a shot gun, it can help to visualize your pellet stream as a stream of water coming from a garden hose. A stationary target it pretty easy to hit. But imagine that your dog was running across the yard in front of you and you wanted to squirt him. Using your garden hose, start squirting behind him and swing the nozzle of the hose past him. Your hose will be pointed in front of him and the stream of water will appear to curve backwards to the point where it's actually wetting your dog. Your shot pattern does the very same thing. That's why you have to shoot in front of your target and you also have to continue the follow through after you pull the trigger.

[@nathanburdett1202]

Sounds to me like its time to get ''interested'' in falconry......

[@stabilis83]

Where can I find that Mississippi patch?

[@hedonisticpunkvatos]

In a shtf scenario, something like this will be useful: Simrad HALO20 Dome (boat) Radar. Dig channel, love that beautiful country, totes jellies, keep it up, grunt! -ren

[@dananorth895]

Until a missle takes it out! Same problem with keying a radio!

[@hedonisticpunkvatos]

@@dananorth895 jaja! Trues!

[@hedonisticpunkvatos]

@@dananorth895 after some thought, I think if shtf, the worry isn't much from missiles as it is from scouting drones from mauraders looking to do harm/take your resources. Thoughts?

[@bigtimer1776]

Wowwwww. Treated as an aircraft…..

[@RAMZAVFX]

1:31 duck huntin baby!

[@robocowone464]

So my question is, is a frizbee an "Aircraft"?

[@inchranger]

So, if you crash a drone, does that count as crashing an aircraft too? asking for a friend

[@rw7594]

27 pellet 4 buck should do the job.

[@christophersmay4508]

Im sorry if it's off topic but could you tell me what canteen pouch/canteen combo you are using there sir? Thanks

[@asmith7876]

In 2015 in Hillview, KY, a neighborhood just south of Louisville, a drone was flying over a guy's house in a residential neighborhood while his daughter was out sunbathing. One shotgun blast later and drone problem solved. He was arrested at first but then all charges dropped. So yeah, it works!

[@flyboymike111357]

I can hit a moving bumble bee with a pellet gun, but I'd still choose a counter-drone or punt gun over a 12 Guage.

[@johnmartin3517]

my falcon will be here in 30 seconds!

[@scott7270]

Most surveillance drone now have cameras that allow them to get detailed photos at an altitude much higher than any shotgun loads could reach. PITW

[@elforeigner3260]

0:43 Nice Jacket!

[@flippityfloppity6213]

Seen drones with this spray of glue they use on opposition drones to take them out

[@danmayes4657]

GOOSE LOADS

[@afastcuda1970]

3.5" duck loads would be a nice option.

[@ritste1654]

Curious, if you were in international waters and flying your own drone, could you conduct this test legally? Asking for a friend. And why are drones considered aircraft if they are not large enough to carry a person. There needs to be common sense put into law, a small, under 10 pound drone or 20 pound drone over private property can be taken out. Too many people are flying drones on private property and using them for not legal purposes and getting away with it because cops get there too late. Also curious if something like a potato gun(not a firearm) could fire something into the air that would unfurl steel wires to entangle the drone rotors and bring it down (thinking something like chaff but better range.)

[@BearClawAK47]

A mag fed shotgun like a vepr or saiga clone would be mighty handy

[@xvsj5833]

You Rock Randall 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻

[@Ultrajamz]

What is that countdown video from?

[@jchirschfeld1101]

IDK, but I was hoping for the pole dancers...

[@JacobJohn-rc4sx]

👍👍

[@WildnUnruly]

How can you tell which ones are drones vs birds or beetles (insects). 2015 Eye in the sky movie. Training a falcon to hate them.

[@1337Mo]

Taofledermaus has tested that ammo and other shotgun ammo, if you can call it ammo.

[@jameswhitaker1324]

Is it legal to use falconry?

[@changingoftheguard7256]

Want your drone back. Come get it i dare you ⚰️

[@truthseeker2190]

They send in the drone to show the DEW your exact location

[@shadowseeker2197]

3:28 you sure bout that? my little crappy drone had my cat chew on a few of those propellers and it still worked fine. birdshot is probably the best bet regardless of our 2 tests lol

[@texasted73]

A nitro turkey round or number 4 buckshot

[@nrthshor8586]

Going to stick with clays 😆 Thanks for vid👍