Budget sailboats, Beneteau,

[@ChasingLatitudes]

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[@audi3318]

I bought a Beneteau Oceanis 411. I’d heard some of the paranoia around keels falling off. I inspected each keel bolt. 12 x M20 and 1 x M14 bolts. I suspect these were the original bolts, making them 23 years old. 11 out of 13 were fine, however 2 were not. It was clear that this issue was due to a poor attempt at sealing the bolts. There were 2 that had fractures in the bolts and it was also evident that these bolts were not sealed properly and some moisture had made its way down the thread. I replaced all of them and feel comfortable and confident. If you have a bolt on keel and have never checked the bolts I suggest you do. In fact Beneteau themselves told me that the bolts should be inspected annually by removing them (one at a time of course)

[@gypsycat619]

I have a Beneteau and my Keel randomly fell off. "Keel" was a purebred Chihuahua and when I was sailing through the straits of Gibraltar "Keel" randomly fell off the end of the Beneteau. I promptly turned around but when I got to the spot where "Keel" should have been there was a big fat Orca named Chuck waiting for me. Chuck smacked his lips and said..."do you have any more of those Mexican dogs...tastes like chicken?" (True Story)

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Sounds legit, where do I make the check out to

[@gypsycat619]

@@ChasingLatitudes Dear Sir I am humbled by your generosity but I will refuse your offer of renumeration and instead ask that you put my winnings towards your $50K sailing vessel. Please do not thank me as this is simply the way I roll

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@gypsycat619 ha

[@hullbreach33]

I love these videos. Thank you for tackling the talking points I always hear when I talk to "traditional" sailors about Beneteaus. Ever since I became interested in sailing, they have really been attractive to me. I love the light colored, roomy interiors. The dark teak is dreary to me and makes sailboat interiors look smaller than they are.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I love them, I've crossed oceans and sailed all over the place, I have zero issues doing a circumnavigation on a beneteau. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment

[@Sikon816]

Your videos are much appreciated and of fantastic quality. You are an underrated KZbinr imo!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you so much forbwatching and leaving such a nice comment, I sincerely appreciate it

[@terratrekker28]

I busted my gut and received a hernia laughing so heard when I heard.. "arm chair captains are going to come slithering out of their mom's basement". Oh my word... this is priceless!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Hahaha , if people didn't know what I think of arm chair captains and social media sailors, they do now

[@markymarknj]

I don't know how ANYONE could bash Beneteau boats! They cross oceans all the time. Bobby and Laura from Sailing Doodles crossed the Pacific on one, and Sailing Le Vagabonde did the same; SLV started out on a Beneteau Cyclades. Finally, Beneteau boats became popular because many people bought them; many people bought them because they were doing something right. I'm just sayin'...

[@kayloren63]

My wife and I bought an Oceanis 323 two years ago. We just love it, coming from a line of 70’s boats between 20 and 31 feet. The last one, a Beason 31, Swedish boat from -76. She saw pictures from the interior (huge), especially the head compartment (huge), and that was it. Totally different to sail compared to the 70’s boat, but taking in a reef in time, 16-18 knots of wind, it handles beautifully. More active solo sailing? I have plans on leading the main sheet so I can reach it from the steering wheel. Otherwise a great boat. Thanks for a great video!

[@saltysassy958]

Thank you for the perspective; much appreciated.

[@cliffordwilliams9597]

"Haven't crossed a bathtub, let alone an ocean!" Love it

[@ChasingLatitudes]

🤣🤣

[@eddieohearn17]

What I like about what I am hearing is the encouragement to sail. I have worked on a lot of Beneteau yachts in various lengths in boat sail and power and the only issue I have seen is sometimes it is difficult to get parts.

[@rickylefleur2158]

Oh, a certain someone did a fantastic job promoting those Beneteau's. There are some fantastic ones out there, just need to find someone I can sell my organs to....

[@ChasingLatitudes]

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@jeffcurrent5593]

As always - Great content! Love to see a bit more detail on the 40’ boat lines in the future.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Will do

[@donk.5730]

Super bullet points to watch out for. You get right to the POINT. You don't mess around with words or silly drama like the catamaran-crowd. Let's GO !!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Yup, thats why they are always less than ten min, no need to b roll the audience into a coma

[@svsandpebble3776]

Great series, I would love to hear his opinion on Catalina’s both older and new. These boats get the same bad mouthing Hunter’s and Benitos do. Thanks for your great neutral reviews.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I'll do one , tomorrow is jenneau then ill do Catalina after

[@derekp6636]

Great content as usual, love the look of the oceanis series

[@ChasingLatitudes]

They are my favorite

[@TOOMENETOYS]

Third thing you need to know about Beneteau’s …. Chris is infatuated with them !

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Dont tell the world my secrets please 🙏 🙂 🙃 ☺

[@TOOMENETOYS]

@@ChasingLatitudes one of these days Beneteau should sponsor you !

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@TOOMENETOYS some day, if I'm really lucky

[@crypto-tony]

WoO!!!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

🤣

[@eddieohearn17]

Just letting you know keels can fall off ... Carr’s aluminum race boat did just fall off. Of course it is a good idea to have bolts to hold the keel on. That is the only time I have ever heard of a keel just falling off and we all can see why.

[@josephlevacher995]

Again a cool video Chris. Will the market let up? People paying these high prices won't, maybe, want to sell cheaper. Look at the housing market. Pay a house 100k more than value and when you sell you want to recup....

[@ChasingLatitudes]

We are going to have to wait at least another year i figure

[@Jsaddison]

What sailboat was that in the last 30 seconds of this video?

[@nocturnal71creature27]

It would be the 361 for me. Because CE A rating. But you know my dream boat 🤤

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I'm the same

[@nocturnal71creature27]

@@ChasingLatitudes we seem to have the same taste … in most cases 👌🏻

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@nocturnal71creature27 we both know what good boats are 🤫

[@nocturnal71creature27]

@@ChasingLatitudes I can’t agree more !

[@kalvinmusic3688]

I like these boats and their relative Jenneaus. For my needs and wants however, I would need to grow into a 38 to 40ft. Id also need a parrot.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Agree

[@hombrealagua]

Will you review Jeanneau? (made by Beneteau)... We have the 2011 Sun Odyssey 44i

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Yes tomorrow's video is jenneau

[@MarkWilsonRN]

Hey there. One of your patrons here. What are your thoughts on the Oceanis 43, and 45. Wife and I are seriously thinking about scouting these out for a purchase in April. Your welcome to message back here or in patreon.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Hey Mark, I love them 💕 they are both fantastic, I would look into the oceanis 40 as well as its very similar to the 43 however you can save quite a bit of money going that route. I would do wither the 40 or 45 depending on budget 😁

[@louisfbrooks]

Probably a dumb question but is sailing from say Florida to the USVI considered blue water? Or is that mainly crossing from the US to Europe/Asia? I am always curious what people mean when they say blue water. This is in reference to the 311 which is high on my list.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Depends on the route, one is one isn't

[@ChasingLatitudes]

There are no dumb questions here my man, ask away

[@airborneranger-ret]

"Haters going to hate" - who would "hate" Benteau?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Just wait for the comments, they will come , there have been a few already

[@reinhardheirman7699]

As a tall person please give the standing head room

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Will do

[@eddieohearn17]

I have only one complaint about Beneteau’s ... more like 2 complaints. First obtaining parts from Beneteau sometimes is near impossible. Second complaint ... way to many owners do not use their boats ... you bought it to enjoy it. Damn it use it and have fun sailing.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Hahah, I would be happy to have some one give me a beneteau they are not using, I would cross an ocean this summer on it and put it to great use

[@eddieohearn17]

@@ChasingLatitudes I am down with that. I remember one guy who had not used him boat for 3 years. We hauled out ever winter and winterized everything. Hell he never even used the water tanks and the only engine hours added were for winterizations. Finally the wife got tired of paying insurance, slip fees and “work”, he was forced to sell his boat. 2 more years pass and a divorce he has a brand new Beneteau, no wife and he sailed every weekend..

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@eddieohearn17 very common, we must all do what we love and only have people in our lives who the love same things

[@jaya001us]

What is your opinion on OCEANIS 331? its mostly listed at over 50k these days... R they over priced? at what price do you think oceanis 331 would be a good buy assuming it is year 2000 or newer?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I personally do not like the cockpit on them however they are fantastic vessels. Overpriced at the moment , if you could snag one for around 40k or less it would be a great vessel depending on your needs. In my opinion you really can't go wrong with a beneteau that is 2000 or newer

[@jaya001us]

@@ChasingLatitudes do you think the beneteau 331 would be suitable for a newbie solo sailor? And what is it about the oceanis 331 cockpit that you do not like? The cockpit on 331 seems the same as 311 and 323 to me.

[@subes5873]

There's a 2010 oceanis 50 on yw in need of work. I know it's been there for awhile it's down to $51k. What's your opinion on that?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Can snag a 50 oceanis for 100k without any work needed, unlikely you could save any cash by picking it up for 50k and doing the work yourself, unless it needs very little work however the amount of time its been on the market would say it probably neds a lot of work

[@subes5873]

@@ChasingLatitudes I've been looking a 50 isn't that easy to find under a 100k, atleast not what I've seen so far. 100/120,000 is a good number for me. I'm paying with Canadian doll hair's soo. About 150k.. I'm not that picky, but wifey has specific requirements about beds (aft cabin or walk around bed) cat is her thing, but not in my budget..

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@subes5873 my friend has one for sale close to your budget, I can always put ya in touch with him if you'd like, the one for 50k would take probably 75 k cash to get ready plus a year or more in time

[@islandsjc]

You mentioned keels don’t fall off. How about coyote sailed by Mike Plant? Let me know if you need to know who to make $1000 check out to lol

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Nope, there was as I stated in the video is that there is ALWYS an event that leading to the keel falling off, just like the example you tried to post

[@ChasingLatitudes]

And because no one can ever back up the claim that keels just fall off here is you evidence for that keel issue, The keel bulb detached as a result of defective materials and workmanship in the construction of the attachment of the bulb to the keel

[@ChasingLatitudes]

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[@corradodeluca1320]

How is the market doing lately? Is it going back down or ? I stopped looking because of the prices and mainly because I wouldn’t even have the time to organize a viewing or a survey (especially when a boat is not near me) 😪

[@nocturnal71creature27]

What I read and see the market is still stressed and more a sellers market then for buying.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Market is horrible currently

[@corradodeluca1320]

@@ChasingLatitudes 😪

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@corradodeluca1320 yeah I know, sad day

[@PuravidaMz]

My thoughts on LOA vs. Hull Lenght vs LWL: - I don't consider LOA at all ... or let's say: secondary - The critical dimension I'm looking at to judge boat size and interior space is Hull Length. - Furthermore I want LWL to be 90% or greater of Hull Length (green rating). Modern designs ... let's say 2005 and younger) ... are typically at 91-92% or greater. 88 or 89% gives me an indication, that the design might already be a little bit outdated, but I would give it a yellow rating. Everything below is a no-go (red rating). - Related to LOA vs. Hull Length my thoughts are: no overhangs at the rear end. At the bow, I would consider max 2 feet 'overhang' for the anchor roller and an optional 'bow sprit' for a large downwind sail acceptable. In the 35 feet hull length range, this would result in LOA/Hull Length ≤ 105%

[@ChasingLatitudes]

If you don't consider loa at all then you must not care at all about running costs, most do so it plays a huge factor

[@PuravidaMz]

@@ChasingLatitudes As I said earlier: my primary focus is on hull length and the secondary tought is on LOA. I would allow for 2 feet front overhang at the bow for the anchor roller and an optional bow sprit ... read LOA

[@wvwombat4866]

Please look up « Polina Star III ». I’ll be available for my check. However, if you are now changing the bet from « previous incident » or words to that effect to « with no cause » or words to that effect, then there’s _always_ a cause, but just falling off is what happened to Polina, even if it was bad engineering and skimping on construction by the builder.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thats not even a case of one thing leading to the keel issues, there were several that were know and recognized long before she sank, as stated in the video the bet is simple, everyone runs around and cries stating bolt on keels just fall off, they NEVER have and never will, in EVERY SINGLE INCIDENT the keel issues were known before hand, improperly repaired or its a lack of maintenance again , knowing before hand. Its a simple bet, show me one keel that has just fallen off with out a catastrophic event prior or negligence, you can't because there are none, thats okay, I understand how misinformation is spread and my point is generally speaking the bolt on keel is misinformation

[@bgauthi1]

First thing is he said a "Beneteau where the keel just fell off without a previous incident." Polina Star was a highly customized Oyster 825. Keep trying. 😁

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@bgauthi1 I was thinking the same thing lol, I'm like uh, I'm 100% sure I said show me a beneteau where the keel just fell of, so far its been customized million dollar boats that had a long series of well known issues and events leading to the keel issues

[@QWTrucker]

Call racing boats kills have fallen off can you explain why that a racing sailboat keel which is bullshit on a just fall off it or break off the boat

[@ChasingLatitudes]

There are several reasons for those issues on the racing sailboats. The conditions they are putting those vessels through is mind blowing. Its usually a design flaw or error as they are always trying new things. Happens in the vendee globe sometimes but those are the harshest conditions on the planet

[@torjusekkje6264]

If th keel falls off, who cares if it is random or not? Did anybody say randomly?

[@jeffgriglack9624]

Okay, two things: 1) The keel fell off Simon Le Bon's "Drum" due to a design failure during the Fastnet Race in 1985. 2) There is another choice for keels besides "bolt on" and "full keel." You can also have an encapsulated of integrated keel, which can still be a fin keel but not have keel bolts. That said, I have no problem with bolt on keels, and I'm not rushing out to by a Kracken. How would you like to deliver the $1000? :)

[@ChasingLatitudes]

You have yet to still show an example of a beneteau keel just falling off like I said in the beneteau 😆 🤣

[@ChasingLatitudes]

A for effort though

[@hombrealagua]

@@ChasingLatitudes and mentioning Simon Le Bon, which is always cool.