Buffalo Bills at the Bye: Reflection on the offseason, present & future decisions around Josh Allen

[@christ6927]

This could be a 3 hr podcast and we’d all listen to every word.

[@TheRickyman57]

True, but the real beauty is Joe’s ability to cover all the absolute best information in a clear, concise 25-35 minute format! That’s what makes it so special! Well organized and to the point!! No bloviating!!

[@ravenclaw9122]

Absolutely

[@markhughes5462]

Bloviating! What a great under utilized word! 👍

[@stevesalter3859]

Word. Absolute word.

[@stevesalter3859]

@@TheRickyman57 I haven't bloviated since Trent Edwards was concussed by the Cardinals.

[@MustacheRainbow]

No shade at anyone else, the mafia is blessed with fantastic content creators across the board, but these two are the aboslute best.

[@pluckpluckpass]

50, 10, and 47 are the three guys I need the Bills to sign. If we keep all 3 long term I’ll build a shrine to Beane.

[@ClifDiggz-p3m]

The only dude that matters is Allen. Always has been and always will be. All the rest are just people in which a coach tells to be at.

[@Paulie-m6q]

@@ClifDiggz-p3mthat’s just not true at all, Yes Allen matters the most, but having a great team around also matters in the long run. what’s the point of having him when the rest of the team is bad

[@roark0806]

I would be shocked if any of those guys left Buffalo. I think they all want to be here and I think Beane knows how important they are to the team. Go ahead and build that shrine.

[@dantaniondb]

You can add #43 to that group.

[@dantejenkins6190]

Cook looking like the odd man out because we can’t absolutely go without the other 4

[@xxcursedbloodxx]

Thanks for the amazing content Joe! Keep up the great work! Go Bills!

[@LockedOnBills]

Thank you!

[@charliesmith5189]

Joe why the bottle of Frank’s on your shelf?

[@timothykatch1855]

TWO OF THE ABSOLUTE BEST! Thanks so much boys!! GO BILLS!!!

[@RobertAWilson]

Good Day Joe and Greg. Fantastic show please do more of these type shows

[@brianbaulsir6955]

Meeting of the minds! Great collab with 2 of the best!

[@livingblackirish8809]

If every time you said "Josh Allen" was a drinking game, I would be dead 😂😂

[@kentcarmack5879]

The coaching in buffalo has been fantastic. The way players step up when called upon you can tell the coaching top tier. I still got my money on cole bishop. A little more time in the system, he can be a star.

[@danielfishback6348]

He’s certainly got the physical tools/athleticism to be a beast! Hopefully the McDermott trend of building safeties into stars continues with him

[@RolandoMGomez]

I really thank you, Greg. I feel like a guy like Cooper would love to continue working with 17. As always, Joe, I am grateful for the content. Go Buffalo Bills.

[@JamesLeisenring]

I think the reason this offseason was quieter (besides $) was because of the success of past offseasons. Like S/WR, they signed guys who could start but then end up giving bigger roles to Shakir and Hamlin. They sort of bet on the develpment of players on their own roster and their signings were more of a safety net/depth pieces.

[@jameslaclair4585]

Great informative show

[@mattglenn29]

2 of my favorites!

[@edkeighron4069]

Great show!

[@Maht25]

I got "Turf Toe" from lifting something heavy with thin shoes and then stepping on a rock. I tell ya, I completely understand why that would set a receiver back for a few months. Most mornings I'd get out of bed and couldn't even put pressure on it!

[@stevenlacharite4433]

Can we at least start the narrative on Bean and McDermott getting the GM and Coach of the year. It's so funny because (being honest here) I had fired both of them last year after the Cheifs game. What a turnaround.

[@ronaldringler1497]

Joe and Greg=one hell of a tag team!

[@richardkalin8184]

Wow, a legendary Bills content team-up! Greg and Joe!

[@bellarose6218]

Great channel, great information 👍 go BILLS 🏈

[@VickiTurner24601]

My favorite two podcasts combining!

[@vinnysvinyl]

Beanes special power is finding talent in the mid to late rounds

[@peterwilson4865]

Yeah he's been ok at the early ones, but he's been great from rounds 3-7.

[@jcZo23]

Still don't understand rhe Elam or Kincaid pick, Knox would have the same or better numbers than Kincaid if he was still Te1, shouldve taken Bryan Branch that draft at FS & LaPorta in the 2nd, Elam should've been a WR

[@peterwilson4865]

@@jcZo23 Elam is already a good player and will be starting opposite Benford next year. Benford and Douglas are the best boundary CB tandem in football this year, but they're not going to have the money to justify paying Douglas into his mid 30s. He's gonna walk for a really nice 3 year deal. Elam has 2 years left after this one and the story isn't written yet on him. Kincaid is a far better receiving threat than Knox. He's top 6 in ADOT and has by far the most uncatchable targets in the NFL at the position. For some reason Josh hasn't been very good on the deep ball this year, specifically to Kincaid. Laporta was featured as a #1 target in Detroit's offense and had a flukey TD binge. His numbers are way down this year too. Kincaid was a fine draft pick and he's a very good player already.

[@jcZo23]

@peterwilson4865 good players play, they didn't even dress him Sunday & they were playing man D, he was a waisted pick & no way they don't bring Douglas back for 1 more year, they clearly don't trust Elam & calling him good is a reach

[@peterwilson4865]

@@jcZo23 it's because he doesn't play ST. He's the backup boundary CB full stop as evidenced by him being the one to start when Douglas missed a game against Miami and he played great. He had a great off-season, TC, and preseason by literally every report. You've always got some pretty shit takes in these comment threads.

[@angeluscrue]

Love these 2!

[@Patrick-py7cj]

GO BILLS... Go Joe...

[@Sovereignox]

Don't worry Joe, im sticking with ya.

[@markstephany1723]

Excellent pod guys, very incetfull

[@All42.]

my 2 favorites. love it!

[@danielfishback6348]

Love the contract discussions with Greg every time! Definitely interested in the Von Miller/Daquan Jones contracts next year and whether we keep them or cut them/post June 1st cut them to alleviate some dead money in 2025; Daquan is really the only guy who looks to have aged a lot since last year, and Von’s cap hit is just too high next year so I would expect we reset with a DE and a DT with 2 of our first 3 picks in the draft

[@jcZo23]

Zero reason to keep Jones or Von

[@ericaures4734]

Really hope you’re right! Would love high draft picks on the DL. Specifically for me, interior DL.

[@dantejenkins6190]

You give Josh whatever he wants WATEVER HE WANTS ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

[@charliesmith5189]

Kudos to Greg for giving props to Torrance. He is a quiet giant

[@TonysARC]

I’ve been seeing a lot of people online say that Allen always had receivers Benjamin, Foster, McKenzie, Sanders, Brown, Beasley, Kumerow are all out of the nfl Diggs and Gabe Davis are the only weapon he had still playing, and Gabe had 2 tds and 260 yds this year before going on IR Keep in mind, most of those were his 2-5 receivers the past 5 seasons

[@sweetspike]

Greg is the best

[@CamDMC123]

Thanks for the content!

[@georgianamcglinchey573]

Great show, but I can’t think when I have seen Joe (Mr.Cautious) giddy with excitement!😂

[@roark0806]

Literally just commenting so the youtube algorithm sends this to more humans 👍

[@LockedOnBills]

Appreciate that !

[@PaulRaymondII]

GO BILLS!

[@louisejackson3931]

❤❤❤Go Bills

[@whatareuthinking1]

Greg’s the best

[@reid_dreamcatcher6017]

I think Ray Davis is the player who exceeded expectations . Late draft pick. He’s been essential to this offense . So glad he’s here. I think over all, the draft class has been more essential than the free agent moves. I really hope they keep Mack hollins next season. Amari seems like wishful thinking . I’d prefer they let him go and extend as many of the vets as they can based on who’s essential . Especially on defense. It seems like aside from cooper most of the offense is already locked up .

[@peterwilson4865]

If he's productive and healthy the rest of the season, then I'd be good with a 3 year extension for Cooper if it's between 15-18 million AAV. He's only 30 and still a legit alpha boundary guy. That would eliminate the need to spend an early draft pick on a WR. Then his contract would be falling off the long term cap picture when Coleman would be due for an extension.

[@danielfishback6348]

Need to keep Mack! The blocking/special teams contributions are so awesome, along with the leadership and locker room presence he brings. Also excited for Ray to get his runs in the last three games of the year against the Pats and Jets; those games would be a good time to keep Jimbo’s legs fresh for the playoffs

[@danielfishback6348]

@@peterwilson4865 completely agree! Cooper getting a head start on building chemistry with Josh this year is a big benefit, and he’s a great example to have in the building for Coleman too

[@peterwilson4865]

@@danielfishback6348 exactly. In a full healthy season with 130 targets or more, he can still put up like 1300+ yards and a boat load of tuddies. Window right now to me is wide open, so work on an extension for both he and Shakir and keep the cupboard stocked. After 2025 they'll be able to get out from under Knox's contract or maybe since he's been paid already he'd take a very team friendly extension, since he's such a great inline guy.

[@danielfishback6348]

Definitely looking to the 2026 offseason for a Knox restructure, at the very latest; another great culture guy and hopefully willing to take less money to stay. Could see them even converting some of his 2025 salary to signing bonus and then in 2026 extending him a year or two

[@charliesmith5189]

Josh Allen is the cheat code for team, McDermott, Beane success

[@christ6927]

Told my wife I wanted a signed copy of your books for Xmas. I won’t get it but it would be awesome.

[@brandonday6153]

Joe what do they do with Kair Elam ? I would really love your thoughts! Go Bills !

[@jcZo23]

If they bring back Douglas I can see them drafting another CB & trading Elam, he clearly hasn't worked out, Ingram is above him on the depth chart too

[@ericaures4734]

Think they move on from Douglas to continue the younger, cheaper transition they started last year unless he’s an affordable 1 year deal. Von, Jones and Cooper as well. Wish we could keep them but the list of guys that have to be signed to their 2nd contract has a lot of key players. If Douglas is gone, Elam is starting opposite of Christian Benford. I think he’s going to be really good with the reps.

[@David-uh8bx]

Could Brandon Beane’s crystal ball have forseen that both Diggs and Davis would have suffered season ending injuries?

[@MatthewMcNutt252]

Favorite development? McDermott.

[@MatthewMcNutt252]

Babich is a great answer too! We're not talking about Rapp and Hamlin without Babich...

[@DeanGrand]

i get that greg is on his fifth year contract but his stats do not warrant $25mil/yr i think his annual will be about the same as his fifth year contract but not more than 20, which is still crazy

[@peterwilson4865]

He's going to be in the same percentile pay wise as Oliver's contract turned out to be. He's going to be over 20 million a year easily, be regardless of your personal feelings. He's a very good player.

[@jcZo23]

25mill per for a DE is cheap, he's irrelevant as a sack artist but he does everything else right

[@DeanGrand]

@jcZo23 25 per would put him at 5th highest paid edge rusher, tied with myles garrett, so miss me with that concept.

[@jcZo23]

@DeanGrand 25 is still a good price for what he brings but no I don't think he'll get 25, he'll hover in the 20 mill per range which he is well worth

[@mpelectric1]

#13 - MANIMAL

[@christ6927]

This is not a Leslie Frazier defense, that’s for sure.

[@joekosciol2576]

❤

[@paulsweet4640]

Twins

[@sweetspike]

Blue sky is lame

[@jcZo23]

The KC Glazing still going on in the national media is absurd, Mahomes sux this year, not an opinion but they find every excuse they can & kC might not even win enough games in the playoffs to See Buff they're that bad, they're 5-5 without the refs bailing all year, Chargers & Steelers r bigger threats, LamarRB is 🗑 in the playoffs his entire career so meh, not concerned with them at all