Buffalo Bills DE Von Miller suspended 4 games, DT Zion Logue signed & storylines out of Ravens loss

The NFL announced that Buffalo Bills DE Von Miller is suspended for the next 4 games. How does that impact the Bills on the field and with Miller’s contract? On today’s episode, Host Joe Marino analyzes all of that in addition to a host of listener-submitted questions and the signing of DT Zion Logue. The show is focused on the Buffalo Bills, Sean McDermott, Brandon Beane, Joe Brady, Josh Allen, Von Miller, Curtis Samuel, Bobby Babich, Joe Brady, Dalton Kincaid, Keon Coleman, Dawuane Smoot, Casey Toohill, AJ Epenesa, Javon Solomon, Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, Zion Logue, Austin Johnson, Dewayne Carter, Tyler Bass, Damar Hamlin and more!
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[@doofydrifting2469]

Random stat: Josh Allen is the only QB to play 4 games and not throw an interception, and after week 4, Mahomes has officially thrown more interceptions since the start of last season than Allen.

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

So, you only avoid suspension for unsubstantiated/dropped legal charges if you play for (or used to play for) KC

[@robertschoelerman7496]

That's my opinion also buch if bullshit rather rice gets to play vin gets suspended the hipocricy is real

[@christopherg7098]

Its true, that's because the NFL is a business first and foremost, and keeping the Chiefs in the win column is good business

[@michaelsturdevant9196]

Be patient. They'll get Rice

[@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139]

Dude beat up his wife. That’s just a little worse. lol

[@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139]

@@michaelsturdevant9196they’ll get rice suspended and then trade for Devante Adams Hahahaha

[@Davis_Jr]

We need Von late in the year. So the suspension is not too bad. Less games fresher legs.

[@davidmaly5464]

Milano too....

[@bigwetbutt]

The only way I can see this team in the super bowl now is if Milano, Johnson, Bernard and anyone else is available and thriving and teams like the Ravens have late season injuries that are really costly.

[@treveonwardlaw4724]

That’s a based take tbh

[@timedgett998]

"Watch the tape..." Thanks Joe, as always, articulating the good & the bad instead of talking talking "nonsense" like some local talking heads! Always informative & "locked On" with our Bills!!

[@IronTuskViking]

Hill was arrested before a game and rice injured someone in hit and run. Why are they still playing?

[@bigwetbutt]

Mahomes was kind enough to suspend Rice himself.

[@1Mrstephen]

I hear you but it’s important you know the difference between arrested and detained. It’s a big difference. Hill is a douche but he was not arrested.

[@jd229]

​@@1Mrstephenpunched an old man last year on video and nothing happened.

[@1Mrstephen]

@@jd229 I didn’t know about that one..

[@DeepThinker-gc8nz]

@1mrstephan well he was detained for being accused of speeding and disorderly conduct. Von turned him self in on accusations that didn’t result in charges either, where is the real difference?

[@RobertAWilson]

Good Morning Joe. Humble pie opens wise eyes

[@tomsmith125]

By the way, thanks for the recommendation to Buffalo River Works. It’s an interesting place and food is good.

[@ravenclaw9122]

Im not worried about the von thing he deserves punishment and he also gets rest.

[@Inside.The.Football]

Why does he deserve punishment for something that never happened??

[@debbyshark1596]

​@Inside.The.Football that's a lie. There was evidence..she just recanted because she knew if she didnt..she'd fumble le the bag for both of them...this is deserving

[@DeepThinker-gc8nz]

@debbyshark your slanderous accusations rooted in preconceived bias is shameful. He was not charged who gives you the right to make up a hypothetical and call him deserving of punishment?

[@shawnhickman3512]

O.J cool with me too. Go Bills

[@debbyshark1596]

@DeepThinker-gc8nz because i heard the audio and there's a police report! Don't tell me it's slanderous..I have no reason to make shit up..there's receipts that he was violent and put hands on her! Your rhetoric is untruthful! He needs to be held accountable! Just because she ended up not filing charges against him...doesn't not make him innocent

[@quinnjackson9252]

I like this game for Buffalo. Both teams are lighter personnel, which is a much better matchup. Not having Von will sting a bit, but we could have Bernard back. We should still be able to pressure Stroud, forcing the young QB to force a play or two into harms way, which is what McDermott's schemes prey on. Offensively, I am not worried, as Josh Allen looked confident after the bad loss on Sunday. After any other loss, he has looked dejected and flat, but Sunday, he looked almost chipper. That makes me think that he is ready to prove to the league that he doesn't need Diggs in Diggs' new house, and let this young team come back and have a good game after the bad loss. Weeks 1-3, the Bills had no apparent weaknesses, so thanks Ravens for showing us what we need to fix before playoffs!!

[@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139]

🤣

[@bentorrey12]

Litterly got suspended for nothing, pretty wild, no charges just accusations

[@calshepherd3659]

It’s not that we lost the game against the Ravens. It’s how we got dominated for 4 quarters. I can’t remember a game in so many years. Except against the Bengals a couple of years back where we didn’t look like we even belonged on the field with a team like the game against the Ravens. This how we look against upper echelon teams? Out played, out coached out schemed. An on going problem vrs quality teams, and coaches. Don’t like the ongoing theme here.

[@erivej]

I wasn't concerned for the next game after your All 22 breakdown but I heard another cast last night where there seems to be concerns Houston might do the same thing Baltimore did with the run, throwing off the Bills second level defenders, with their short passing game. Looking forward to your breakdowns.

[@jd229]

Houston ain't doing the same thing baltimore did with joe mixon and cj stroud. They are not remotely the same as lamar and Henry 😂😂 much closer to the dolphins running a bunch and getting nowhere with it. Plus it sounds like Bernard may be back

[@erivej]

@@jd229 correct, probably didn't word that well. The analysis i saw said Houston may be able to stress the Bils 2nd level defenders and punish overpenetration up front with the short passing game.

[@TonysARC]

At no point this season have I been like “I miss diggs”. Even the Baltimore game. I put that more on the line-play calling-defense than Allen or the receivers

[@kennyjames4679]

Remember what happened to that punter the bills had when he was falsely accused? One, the nfl should have to say what von miller is being suspended for and two, an accusation should not be enough for a punishment to be administered.

[@atl126]

"no one's getting open with 5 over 3" *Justin Jefferson enters the chat* (Receiver the bills could've drafted)

[@davidmaly5464]

We are in a retooling year.... Been saying that all off-season.... and didn't fall for the hot start.... I still see AFC East champs though...

[@peterwilson4865]

They're still a top 3 SB contender in the AFC. Baltimore was a really bad matchup and they didn't help anything with a piss poor game plan on both sides. They were never going 17-0. The division is a forgone conclusion. They'll be fine.

[@JaySmith-rv4ro]

I see the Bill clinging on to decent season. I feel like there should be zero expectations for this season

[@mathieuguillet4036]

Agreed that it was a bad night. We should not overreact, nor should we be naive about how bad it was.

[@raymondhyamiii4801]

Everyone gets suspended unless your of the cheater convict cheifs

[@barryfeinstein1234]

Now that Rice is hurt they will suspend him…

[@Ahbraedot]

Or if you are a part of the Diddy parties😂

[@christopherg7098]

That's true, they said, don't worry Mr. Mahomes, we won't suspended your WR until after the Superbowl, the Cheifs are a special case.

[@footballfan5486]

While the chiefs didn’t have a WR1 the last two years… they did have a prime Kelce. Who on our team resembles this level of pass shares or production. NO ONE. Plus we don’t have the coaching advantage. It’s not even close to apples to apples.

[@FreshlyFried]

F the defense. Get a wr

[@doofydrifting2469]

Dolphins vs Titans had 4 WR1s and managed only 180 passing yards total. I think Allen will be fine without one

[@RickJulylia]

Joe, we signed the fence tackle because Oliver and Jones are not stuffing the run and they’re getting smoked so no-brainer

[@kriyashivajiva]

dont know if i can ask a herd mentality question, which i have heard before. why are we not able to develop a screen game, when defenses sell out on pass rush? is it a timing issue, or just a difficult play to pull off. sure would be nice to have another arrow in the quiver. thanks coach marino. i eat up your content like a buffalo west side plate of spaghetti parm!

[@calshepherd3659]

My concern is two 1st round draft picks. A 2nd round draft pick on this D-line, and they seem to against quality opponents do not perform up to par. Did nothing but get pushed around against the Ravens. Again last year’s playoff loss against the Chiefs, and the year before against the Bengals. That’s 3 big games that our D-line when we need them to step up the most all play like late round draft picks. Good against average teams, but quality opponents disappear, or just not a factor against a quality opponents. An ongoing problem for this Bills team each of the last 3 years. Run the football, and stop the run is how you win football games

[@kendric_BUF]

Where can i watch the tape?

[@Stompinwind]

Over half the loss just came down v to the ravens wanting it more. They were up 35 10 still popping people hard and playing trubiski like he was gonna mount a comeback

[@whitetailscout4069]

I think the disappointment with Kincaid is warranted. It seems like he’s hand a number of inexcusable drops between last season and the start of this season. He was supposed to be the one with the incredible hands, and it doesn’t seem like it at times. Also, Sam LaPorta was acquired at a cost of far less draft capital, and he’s not a liability with blocking.

[@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139]

You either need a number 1 receiver or Travis Kelce who’s basically the same. A number 1 receiver can take over a game. Buffalo doesn’t have a game changer at wr. He’s in Houston.

[@adamant5550]

Chiefs managed to beat Baltimore. Just saying. Good teams find ways to win.

[@nicholasblake9561]

Its 4 games....i think we'll be ok!!!

[@georgebarnes3554]

CARTER should b on the field more

[@Chudley716]

The allegations were in fact substantiated by the police, read the police affidavit, people. Bruising consistent with him choking her. Photographed by the police. A chunk of her hair was pulled out. Did she do that herself? She made the report but declined to press charges later perhaps because of financial dependency on him. That is what happens in some domestic violence cases, unfortunately.

[@Flux06-dy3ru]

im not saying your wrong here but a thing to note is that there are always 2 sides to every story. Nothing is ever straight forward with these kinds of things.

[@Jack-b4k2p]

Bruising physical evidence of chocking.Case closed

[@MacArthurGeorgia]

2161 Jones Isle

[@evertonelvio]

Nothing about D.Adams? Not even an "We don't have money"? (I don't thinkbills should get him... This is a year to plow the fields and start sowing...

[@peterwilson4865]

He's going on 33 years old and owed like 35 million a year in 2025 and 2026. It's not even worth mentioning because it's not gonna happen and it would be a supremely bad move. Build WR through the draft. No reason to pay top dollar at the position with a QB like Allen.

[@nunoalvarespereira87]

33 years old, super expensive both in terms of contract and trade value, what am I missing here?

[@peterwilson4865]

@@nunoalvarespereira87 yeah he's the last guy I'd want them to trade for. Still pissed they didn't swoop in and get Noah Brown when the Texans cut him in preseason. They just need another reliable boundary guy that can get some separation.

[@Vipaworld_Vito]

So disappointing in Babich … I don’t know if he has full control of the D play callling … but , it looked so much like MCD’s ….j can understand and wouldn’t be concerned, if he had a change in the D scheme and it didn’t work….But to not change at all, is so so disappointing and immature as a DC…. If it happened then, it can happen any game, and now I feel the season and future of the bills D is in Jeopardy… Brady I still have full confidence and even more as I see imagination offensively , and going to a straight pass game to catch up was a good thing … willing to change …

[@wyomingtrout5581]

Concerned about the beating we took and the loss of confidence and execution that could ensue. So I think the Bills will get beat by Houston. It is going to take several games to shake off the beating they took in Baltimore

[@Jack-b4k2p]

Bills always come back soon They have beenherr before always have a chance with Josh

[@JaySmith-rv4ro]

I don’t think our linebackers as they stand right now are super talented. They can’t get off blocks. They can’t cover and I see no Matt Milano slicing through the backfield for a tackle for loss ….10 wins at best.

[@tomsmith125]

Vin Miller is not very good at this stage of his career. Brandon should try to trade him for a draft pick. Some team would be willing to take a chance on an aging edge rusher.

[@deadwavy3198]

so am i the only one in on getting adams?

[@adamant5550]

I'm in. No reason why we shouldn't pursue it. This current WR room isn't scaring anyone.

[@JohnWilliams-wz9vk]

Josh Allen .get the hell out of Buffalo ..now..

[@SalvatoreGerace-eh3zb]

We are not "gloom and doomers". We just saw a great opportunity to have home field advantage with the situation that KC and the Bengals are in right now. Always something with this team.

[@jd229]

Chiefs have a 1 game lead on us and we are ahead of the bengals. Idk how we lost home field potential with 1 loss.

[@kentcarmack5879]

What did he get suspended for? Charges were dropped on the domestic. You can now get suspended for unsubstantiated legal charges?

[@chipprovost8345]

Been that way for a few years now

[@DeepThinker-gc8nz]

You can look at it like red flag domestic violence laws. You no longer have to be guilty or even have your day in court, you just need to be accused and they take what ever they want

[@jakepope3847]

Even if charges get dropped. Being charged in the first place is “conduct detrimental to the league.” NFL wants to keep a good image (it’s not that good at it) so guys get suspended for having bad things attached to their name and the league’s name.

[@kentcarmack5879]

@@jakepope3847 why not hire a bunch woman to honeypot the opposing teams star players? If there is no burden of proof the league is a complete joke

[@scottblakely4419]

@@kentcarmack5879- excellent point.

[@jcZo23]

Team is in desperate need of multiple WR's & has been for years & Buff nor any other team is KC, doesn't matter what they do cuz you're not them, not Mahomes not Reid not Kelce & definitely not there defense.. McDermott isn't the answer, too much priority to the Defense, Allens 8th year with zero 1st rd picks at WR or OL is unacceptable & when he was asked at halftime what they needed to do to score more points & get the offense going he said the defense needs to play better 🤦🏽 not the OL needs to block better, better play calls or the WRs getting open but defense, it's all he cares about & it's why this team is never going past a divional game with him again.. he thinks his bum 🗑 DL & defense, which has never shown up when it matters most & has been garbage for years in the playoffs, is gonna carry this team & win a Bowl, it's not.. Josh Allen is the franchises sole relevance & he has 🗑 for weapons. After Shakir, it's mid & Coleman was a terrible pick, their were so many far better WRs to be had.. & fyi stop scratching Edwards, Hamlin sux.. McDermott is wasting years with Allen, he's never seeing a Bowl with him & anything other than that matters none..

[@grock5209]

What about tyreek hill??? He assaulted his wife, slapped a boat marina employee, and was pulled over driving 100mph and he is till playing without any suspension???WTF

[@adamant5550]

He wasn't actually arrested, Von was. That seems to weigh heavily in the eyes of the NFL.

[@elevatedstateofbeing4993]

👏

[@carlossaenz7485]

Another Diva, undisciplined player.

[@jd229]

If you have offensive concerns i suggest going back and looking at why drives failed. I dont remember them all perfectly but several drops, a 4th and 1 that should have been gone for, and the dumb trick play. Prob a couple times no one was open but for the most part it was lack of plays being made not lack of ability to make them.

[@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139]

Who is Joe Brady? Hahaha. A top 5 QB should have a seasoned experienced OC not an experiment.

[@christophersimmons3218]

wtf happen???!!

[@tsunamishijo8690]

Von Miller needs to go and should have been kicked off the team after he was reported to the police for choking his pregnant girlfriend

[@Vipaworld_Vito]

Samuel so far looks like a bust …for sure doesn’t look explosive… and not being utilized properly .. as it was with Hardy last year.

[@Vipaworld_Vito]

You don’t need to have a receiver that can get wide open …which may be considered a #1… A highly accurate QB can destroy Defenses …. All you need is 1 step… Allen is not a very accurate QB ….

[@reaperw1532]

Egh it’s not like since he came to this team has he lived up the the same player he was for Broncos and Rams. Forgotten his impact anyway. Sad that he was signed for so long of worthlessness 😅