Buffed Luna Improvements for Best Dragons Abyss Hard Team! - Summoners War

[@yassssss4596]

You can run shaina + maruna instead of shaina + julie to clear the waves. IA isnt better but damages requierement is way easier & winrate is almost 100%

[@davidk174]

Maruna turn?

[@jonasmth]

So you need Julie and Shaina to clear first wave otherwise Luna uses S3 on wave and hasnt it up on Mini Boss or? My julie too weak then :/

[@aryogmr97]

best team rune 8:18

[@mattlariat3806]

THANK you lol

[@Halbert-wang]

Is there a fastest luna skin for speed farming?

[@potatomatop9326]

Seii! I miss using speed teams lol. My beginner account is still in dragon ah and won't be leaving there for a long time. I now have 13 triple spd rolls.

[@johannessundqvist8181]

How come my Shaina is doing s1 a lot of the time after Julie does s3. Are they not low enough hp for the ai to be perfect?

[@thiagosoria9266]

Nice vid!!! I been playing Light demon, dark chicken, raoq, Lyn and verdehille and it has been doing 45sec average, 36sec #1 run. But i think i can improve that somehow, maybe with luna instead of lyn, or something else instead of verde/raoq.

[@Seiishizo]

yea thats an option. or try to get julie to replace something. so you can julie->lucifer to clear waves.

[@LeaveAcomment_J]

Jaara julie lucifer luna deborah

[@nirorit]

What about using Galleon instead of sabrina that comes before Luna?

[@Seiishizo]

not great with AI either

[@ChloeTerada]

Is this easier to rune than same team but no dark pierret instead use bird?

[@nathanchen2824]

How do you get julie's damage high enough to pull this off???? I can easily do spd teams for any other dungeon but no combonation of runes I have makes it so julie does enough damage to where shaina can kill the crystals with s2 without landing a def break on the first hit. I'm going insane

[@MonkeyDKizu]

Artifacts

[@nevergetsbetter_]

why julie more speed than shina?

[@divinesovereign3103]

my question too. isn't it better to have Shaina perform defense break before Julie attacks for more damage?

[@Elentari1710]

1. Julie has perfect AI, Shaina doesn’t. 2. Shaina will have perfect AI if the enemy hp is low, due to Julie s3.

[@Seiishizo]

@elentari1710 Gave the perfect answer ^.^

[@nevergetsbetter_]

@@Elentari1710 ah thanks

[@Renkencen]

I don't get it, have the team and the runes but the runs are still inconsistant? Granted I gave up on Luna and replace her with deborah instead. I assume they just need abit more CD and better artifact (focus on CD more health and atk on fire) but it's still doing my heading!!

[@lukass2495]

Shamann S2 also has perfect AI if the Boss is low enough. My Team was Julie Shaina Kyle Kona Shamann for quite some time. Shamann always did S2 when the boss was low enough

[@Seiishizo]

All units have perfect AI on low enough hp

[@jeremymcintosh6692]

i have all units except debra and yet i still cant clear this dng for nth in the world, my rune quality is okay but idk i just cant get the boss low enough for liam to execute, dragon hp goes down to about 45% but cant finish and its frustraiting

[@MonkeyDKizu]

tbh if you can't clear then your rune quality may not be as good as you think. however, if it is then the issue would be that you don't have the artifacts necessary. that's what i experienced when building this team before

[@hideathwing]

I have a question, I build the team, but Liam cuts before Luna can use s2 again. The speed of the units is Julie: +69, Shaina: +67, Kayle: +67, Luna: + 58 and Liam *48. Do you know who I need to make faster so the speed tuning works ?

[@MonkeyDKizu]

bro he has a notepad in the video that shows you the ideal speed you need to be at, are you not watching? based on that you need to increase your julie speed and switch the speeds of kyle and luna

[@hideathwing]

@@MonkeyDKizu okay, but he himself used different speed for his teams aswell then his notepad for exaample +60 Julie. I probably used the video more then you think, because im almost having the same stats as his teams do, because I copied it : )

[@Michael-pz4gm]

@@hideathwing One time I "used" the speeds of his GB12 video, but I didn't account for the speed ticks properly and that's why it was cutting. If you match speed thresholds it works

[@patrickholmes98]

My Shaina with 35% acc + 21% s3 acc arti still fails to land def break sometime. Fails 1 or 2 times per every 30 runs.

[@Seiishizo]

yea theres a 15% chance to miss defbreak. so 15%^2 is a small chance that you will miss. but its there.

[@bratan7022]

What would you say is the fastest but easiest to rune team if I have everything (Liam, Deborah, Luna, Kyle etc. but no LD 5) ?

[@Seiishizo]

Julie Shaina luna kyle liam. Unless you have super insane runes then you can remove kyle for deb, but i can't build that with more than 90% success rate

[@bratan7022]

@@Seiishizo thank you for your reply. Is that the easiest fast team in terms of this video or in general at the moment?

[@Seiishizo]

@@bratan7022 in general

[@Lenny_696]

Rune showcase: 8:17

[@0asuto094]

Does this dalsim speed work on giant?

[@Master.Starkiller]

Is that better than the other with kona? I have the twin team for dragons but its only 40 sek, i want to build a faster dragons team and im wondering whats better

[@Seiishizo]

yea i expect this to you quite some more dmg than the kona boost kyle version

[@Master.Starkiller]

Okay good, thank you

[@GokuTali]

Have you tried using geralt leader skill to one shot waves with your Julie? And would you prefer geralt leader skill to make kyle and himself hit harder or the shaina leader to buff luna too?

[@Seiishizo]

geralt is mentioned in the video. he works as replacement for liam yea

[@Larkian]

He tried before to use Geralt Leader and it wasn't still enough to 1-shot waves. I wonder if Shroomia runes on Julie + Geralt leader would be enough for that but it's not something that almost anyone can replicate

[@Seiishizo]

ah sorry i miss read the 1shot part. eh yea i can't maybe if you have shroomia runes yea or have a lucifer/light dokki lord.

[@Jhf7967-hi8qg]

Hi seii I’m doing a full rerune for all my dungeons soon. I know some don’t need fight sets 100%. Which team should I focus fight sets on so I don’t have to swap much? (From your videos I think DB12 needs them more)

[@Seiishizo]

make sure prilea loren kona have fight runes. and your r5 side units. rest can use normal dmg runes

[@Jhf7967-hi8qg]

Thanks for replying sei. I will probably use the mephi julie gb12, liam kyle db12, abigail nb12, brandia sf12, and icaru sonia pc12. I have a teshar but i like the faster team you showcased recently.

[@sosso_sw]

Hello seii, I'm early with Lucifer and luna, do you have a team for me to do giant and dragon? ty I Luv you

[@Seiishizo]

You can do the mephisto(lucifer for mepthisto) julie luna team on giants. Dragons I'm not too sure if there's a team that would make it better that way.

[@thiagosoria9266]

I play Luci Verde Raoq Jaara Lyn. Lyn can be replaced by luna. jaara with another dmg dealer or maybe some clear wave unit. I'd say my core is luci lyn verde. I tried Taor before raoq but my runs barely did less than a minute those days.

[@KyngJay.]

did he mess up the label? shouldnt shaina be the one at 120 speed so she moves first, then julie gets a def break making her dmg higher.

[@Seiishizo]

then shaina won't always s2. if she moves after she does

[@KyngJay.]

@@Seiishizo okay

[@KyngJay.]

@@Seiishizo and this team with luna is easier to build then the one with konamiya?

[@pellatazopt]

is this possible with liam without skill ups? i have the other ones fully skilled except liam. i have patrick with some skill up.

[@Seiishizo]

if liam does enough dmg on the 3x fight he can be without skillups yea

[@jorgegarcia-yj6cn]

An replace the shaina with a fast water geralt?

[@Seiishizo]

wont make him use the aoe to clear

[@imvon122]

what artifacts u had a shaina ?

[@Seiishizo]

add dmg by att/spd

[@ElCapoo3]

Hey what is a kyle replacement in dragon gb12 I have liam but no kyle

[@LeaveAcomment_J]

Water dal sim? 😋

[@Obudin]

niceeee always love ur dungeon vids

[@Clawopp]

What’s the fasted tmog for luna ?

[@Seiishizo]

base

[@Clawopp]

@@Seiishizo much appreciated Ty

[@noks234]

Is liam transmog faster?

[@LeaveAcomment_J]

Does hellea the dark harpy have 100% AI on skill3?

[@MonkeyDKizu]

Nah

[@Bjornson98]

Julie -shaina - kyle - luna - debra possible?

[@iiShqdow]

Not enough dmg

[@Seiishizo]

Nope not enough dmg unless absolute god tier runes.

[@unknown963_.-5]

My geralt isnt skilled up and i dont have liam yet F Should i skill him up and try run this or save my devils for when i eventually hopefully get Liam n farm r5 while waiting for him

[@LucasSousaSF]

My geralt is not maxed either but I think we can make it work without the third skill damage boost. His leader skill is also better

[@BlackSun90]

Maybe, but my first impression Is he does needs skill ups in rend to do damage. Give it a try, don’t wait too long. The free max skill up for witchers is pretty great for this liam replacement

[@LucasSousaSF]

@@BlackSun90 the skillup event is already over. The only skillup we need is one skillup to the third skill, since the point is not letting geralt attack during waves anyways

[@unknown963_.-5]

@@BlackSun90 the max free skill up are gone , I've been using a fire ciri comp n Gabe my nat5 skillups to another unit didn't think I'd use geralt but with the new Luna change that changes things I think. Was gonna swap it back when I saw this vid but events are gone unfortunately

[@unknown963_.-5]

@@LucasSousaSF yeah that's true I could drop a few devils trying to get that singular skill up if that's actually all he needs Lmk if your about to get it to work without any skillups tho please. I'm too tired to mess around with runes n test stuff out ATM

[@kennethvillacrusis30]

is the julie here has same runes in your giants?

[@Seiishizo]

nope, i always switch runes moment i switch dungeon

[@kennethvillacrusis30]

@@Seiishizo I see.. thanks

[@noks234]

W8, so we don't need a +120 Julie anymore??

[@Seiishizo]

nope

[@NicoLuna95]

Have you tried Patrick in place of kyle? Something like Julie shaina luna luna patrik liam

[@RK-mi2sz]

I gave it a shot just now and he doesn't do as much damage. Especially if he uses s1

[@Seiishizo]

patrick is only good in the last unit to dmg slot i think. otherwise his output isn't that high.

[@eateelsw1410]

ありがとうございます😃

[@Einfallslos_SW]

I really need vios but dragons feels unworth to farm over giants idk

[@Seiishizo]

same i mostly farm giants

[@PedroDragonNest]

A question i have is why Julie needs to move before Shaina in all of these DBH teams? Putting the def break before the damage wouldn't make it easier? Is there some kind of Speed tic misteryous mechanic behind it?

[@unknown963_.-5]

For Shaina to always use s2 enemies need to be weakened so if Shaina moves first then runs consistency will drop

[@PedroDragonNest]

@@unknown963_.-5 i always forget that our monsters are brain rotten in this game ☠️☠️☠️ like why in hell would any monster consistently use their best skills, right?

[@zacholson4963]

Every day I regret taking gin for my dova lushen team more

[@c.6027]

I have Deborah but no liam what team can i use?

[@strik3r504]

You can use Liams leader skill its 33% damage boost

[@ha7vds]

Shaina and Kyle are also 33%

[@lucasadam1076]

I want a liam so bad, been spending all gp and arena points on water scrolls for months and only dupes... sadge

[@Seiishizo]

can use geralt

[@PeteFish-b1f]

can we use Ryan , instead of Kyle

[@NhanLe-xm1jd]

I dont have Liam, you can tell me One team safety and fast. I have Deborah

[@Seiishizo]

watch the video, liam replacements are mentioned

[@onemace1531]

impossible to build julie into shaina....you need IIIIIINSANE runes to be able to pull this off.....

[@Zeus33555]

This video is so over my head.

[@m.b7227]

Sees new Dragons Speed Team Opens video Sees Liam Close video

[@Seiishizo]

Jokes on you then, because I do always show/mention replacements. And this new method works with f2p Geralt X'D

[@disaray1533]

9:00

[@yiggawhat]

​@@Seiishizo is a new artifact dungeon speed team coming? the last one is months old and mine still isnt safe😂

[@Seiishizo]

@@yiggawhat not sure about that yet, i don't think that there are any upgrades on those yet

[@BlackSun90]

@@Seiishizo man you are too good! I would have left it at jokes on you, I went over alternatives… could have let him sit and feel like an ass. possibly get a second click of engagement out of the guy. So thank You Sei, regardless of not having a liam you just about always cover something useful. Like the ticks for example. Appreciate your generous knowledge

[@justnacht]

still have no liam

[@Seiishizo]

use geralt

[@cancersticks2048]

Dang I have everything but Liam :/

[@otmaneamali1280]

Make shania faster so that Juli does more dmg

[@Seiishizo]

Shaina will derp and not do s2 to clear waves

[@tai001kaka6]

Hello you eredas run combo

[@GAMERJP76]

Spellbinder is a noob at this game